[00:03] charlie-tca: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjqEn7AAq5E [00:33] new alternate images are up [00:33] still waiting for desktop to finish [00:42] did anyone test to see if accountsservice restored the user list on login? [00:43] haven't even had time to finish syncing yet [00:43] was referring to upgrading a current system/logout [00:49] I can try tomorrow at the office, while waiting for code to compile or whatever. [00:51] desktop is up now [00:52] sorry, will boot one up and find out [00:53] upgrading now, micahg [00:54] I am a little slow some days [01:04] micahg: it worked, gave me the user list and the session prefilled [01:05] It's even the correct session preselected [01:06] Now if only the background stayed one color [01:34] starting the image tests now [01:35] will run one test per image tonight, to make sure they work [01:48] I'll run a few 32bit [01:51] great. [01:51] Mostly want to know if we have to fix things or not to get a good image [02:03] Is bug 819609 really invalid? [02:03] Launchpad bug 819609 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Oneiric live CD boots to login screen" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819609 [02:05] charlie-tca: great news [02:05] Unit193: yes, it was fixed another way [02:06] Sorry. I still had to login :/ [02:07] Unit193: xubuntu or ubuntu? [02:07] ubuntu should be no, xubuntu, yes [02:07] Xubuntu desktop 32bit [02:07] Alright [02:07] that should be fixed after alpha3 I think [02:08] at least you should get a user to click on now [02:08] It was against ubuntu, we may still not have a auto-boot to the live session, but that is bug 806408 [02:08] Launchpad bug 806408 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "After xubuntu upgrade or installation, default session on greeter must be xubuntu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806408 [02:08] That was the bug on our tracker. I didn't get the user actually [02:09] Unit193: do you have the latest ISO? we added that this afternoon [02:09] This is still valid for us. We are on hold for another bug to get fixed [02:10] micahg: I should as I just synced it. I'll check MD5 again [02:11] * charlie-tca booting a live cd now to verify [02:11] image should be dated 2011-08-03 for desktop [02:12] The live cd is the only time I get a splash screen in plymouth. [02:13] micahg: the user list doesn't show up in live session [02:13] The only user listed is "other" [02:13] We have to seed it to use ubuntu somehow [02:14] but I don't think we can until we get the bug above fixed, which is on hold for Bug #799754 [02:14] Launchpad bug 799754 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799754 [02:15] I'm glad it isn't just me as the md5 checked from cdimage.../current/ [02:15] Oddly, I got the plymouth screen in VBox [02:24] strange, that login bug is the only one I see now [02:26] spoke too soon, still has two xubuntu sessions [02:32] charlie-tca: :( [02:33] ubiquity is different than the installed systems. Things don't work the same [02:33] I think something has to happen in casper to make it work [02:34] micahg: I guess if it is broken on live session, but fixed after installing, that is still a gain [02:35] We won't get things working in lightdm for live sessions until those bugs get fixed, which mr_pouit has spent a lot of time on. [02:35] unfortunately, sometimes it seems like they are fighting us all the way [02:36] um, this is bad [02:36] I lost all video after restarting [02:37] I ran the 64bit encrypted install, and the restart has shut the monitor off [02:38] rebooted, did it again [02:38] oh-oh [02:43] charlie-tca: RAOF might still be around in #ubuntu-desktop [02:43] I will assume it is hardware again. will run that test tomorrow now [02:43] I give up tonight [02:44] I have to unplug one drive in the computer to get the lvm encrypted install to work [02:46] I can't do that. I am running the same install in VBox to verify [02:47] * micahg is heading to sleep [02:51] Good night, micahg [03:11] Unit193: working for you? [03:22] charlie-tca: I'm not doing encryption yet [03:23] Hung for a little, but I went and took a shower so it's fixed :P [03:27] I will finish these two I got running, and call it a night [03:28] I am pretty sure it is the hardware making the encrypted test fail, it did that testing alpha2, too. [03:28] Shouldn't the network bug go in the install and not the live? [03:28] It's issues with both SATA and PATA hard drive in the same computer [03:28] I'll run a VBox of that test tomorrow (or late tonight if you really want it) [03:29] It could, but it doesn't really matter. It did come up while installing from the live desktop [03:30] The only one I know will be against the install is bug 814060 [03:30] Launchpad bug 814060 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "shares-admin crashed with signal 5 in g_option_context_parse()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814060 [03:30] because I don't ever add users to the live session [03:31] and that crashes as soon as you select users and groups [03:40] I give up. I can't make anything work now [03:40] good night [03:41] Adios, I'll finish this and amybe another (one at a time) [04:35] Hmmmmm.... Still configuring system... [05:00] Still configuring, I'll call this a fail and try again tomorrow [12:53] Our alpha3 images are failing. The desktop images are starting the install and getting stuck at "Configuring target system..." forever. [12:54] There seems no way to make these work. [12:54] micahg, mr_pouit ^ ^ ^ [12:54] both i386 and amd64 desktop images [13:03] charlie-tca: bug 820284? [13:03] Launchpad bug 820284 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Oneiric DVD 20110802.1 i386 failed to install: /usr/lib/ubiquity/target-config/30accessibility: 41: log_end_msg: not found" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820284 [13:03] yup [13:03] * micahg disappears again [13:04] blamed it on too tired last night, but Unit193 said the same thing, and it does it today again [13:41] Is there a work around? [13:47] no [13:47] They will have to respin the desktop images again [13:47] but first, they have to fix them. This is a direct result of the fix yesterday to lightdm to force an auto-login for live sessions [13:48] oh [13:49] Meh, probably respinning them too late, so I can't download at the office. :( [13:50] haven't even started yet [13:50] They are trying to figure out how to fix it [13:50] alternate images are working, though [13:52] Ill get me one of those :) I was so dumb, I read the bug report and it said "DVD", so I went for a normal image and still got the problem, i need to read better [14:27] hey, I found the lightdm.conf for Xubuntu. It is in /usr/share/xubuntu/lightdm/lightdm.conf [14:27] in oneiric [14:29] In todays images? [14:29] in both live session and installations [14:29] although, for alpha3, live session will be over-ridden by a default file to give the auto-login [14:30] sweet, hope its the complete version, im installing now (53%) [14:31] charlie-tca: the xubuntu settings package is supposed to move replace the lightdm.conf in /etc with the one in /usr/share [14:32] charlie-tca: so, another casper upload just happened to overwrite any custom configuration, so we should get autologin [14:33] micahg: it's all symlinked to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [14:33] right [14:33] so, yes, it should overwrite what we have to make it work [14:33] but that's about to be blown away in casper [14:33] at least for alpha3 [14:33] but it will not over-write in installs, only on the live session [14:33] right [14:34] which should be fine. What we have now is not working all that great [14:34] We can't even have the same color background each time [14:35] oh, by way, Good morning [14:37] good morning to you too :) [16:12] Xubuntu alpha3 alternate images fail encrypted LVM installs. Can not login after the installation [16:12] bug 820460 [16:12] Launchpad bug 820460 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Encrypted LVM install will not allow login in Xubuntu Alpha3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820460 [16:37] I will put this in the release notes. It is getting to late to keep trying to test these. [16:37] We still don't have valid desktop images [16:41] Encrypting /home also causes login to fail [17:20] charlie-tca: So the respins are ready? [17:27] only the alternate images are ready [17:28] The desktop images will have to re-built again after they fix the bug blocking the install [17:43] 18 hours and I finally got the amd64 alternate image tested. That must be a record. [21:36] mr_pouit: any workaround after we choose the wrong session? [21:36] If the wrong Xubuntu session is chosen, we get a fragmented xfce session. [21:37] Next login, we can choose the other Xubuntu session, but it only changes the wallpaper [21:37] we still don't get the right panels, menu, applets, etc. [21:40] Deleting ~/.cache and deleting ~/.drmc doesn't work [21:42] mr_pouit: do we really have to tell people to reinstall because they picked the wrong Xubuntu session? [21:47] Also on the newest lat image, I picked "se" (using detect keyboard, that is swedish keyboard) but it uses US layout [21:47] alt* :) [21:51] found it. We can release note it. If the icons don't appear, logout, rm -r ~/.config, login using the other Xubuntu session [21:51] it will work [21:52] I was about to say that fix (I've done something like that, picked Xfce Session) [21:52] I was just never able to fix GDM or my mouse :/ [21:57] It's a long way around to login, if you haven't used it before, but it works [21:58] madnick: we are a ways from having things work, but we are gaining [22:00] charlie-tca: just saying :) thing is that i could not figure out why i couldnt login, until i saw it used another keymap, but there is no way of changing at the login screen, so you have to dump to terminal and fix it [22:00] crap [22:33] hehe, oh my http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/08/linus-switches-to-xfce-calls-gnome-3.html [22:36] Ain't it great! [22:37] hehe, g3 makes my desktop as useless as an android pad :) [22:37] old news I guess :) but phew [22:37] i dont understand why they push those things [22:37] g3 = gnome3 [22:39] I don't know, but let's hope Xfce stays away from the "easy to use interface" thing [22:40] me too [22:41] I am beginning to really like linus [22:41] you didn't before? :D [22:42] I have to say I do agree with his assessment of gnome3 and it applies to unity too. [22:42] well, unity was created because they saw that gnome3 was turning out to be.... an unholy mess [22:42] but yeah, I feel pretty much the same way about the both of them [22:45] * pleia2 supposes this is better for -offtopic [22:45] yeah, I suppose it is. But isn't xfce likes and dislikes on topic here? [22:59] If I want to use Windows, I'll use windows :P "I'm using Xfce. I think it's a step down from gnome2, but it's a huge step up from gnome3. Really" :/ [23:00] yeah, not exactly a glowing review but eh [23:00] That's because Xfce is still very young compared to gnome and kde [23:00] Better than what Gnome 3 got though :P [23:00] It really is still maturing [23:01] But it isn't bad as it is [23:01] I sure dislike that "no restart button" in ubuntu now [23:02] I haven't really tried Ubuntu and I even pointed someone I know in person to X/K/LUbuntu (Give him all the options!) [23:06] If they are coming from windows, the easiest one to learn is Ubuntu. But they are all a big change to set up and install software for., [23:06] It is a real education to learn that you don't have to go find drivers and programs anymore. [23:09] When I was at uni, and netbooks were new, they all shipped linux, and me and some classmates got netbooks [23:10] They said they were unsuable, until i got them to install ubuntu flavours, they never been happier :) [23:12] Great! [23:12] it's all a gain for non-windows OS's