| maxb | I previously planned to work on getting the %2B displayed unescaped, until I got scared off by the problems %7E vs. ~ was causing | 00:02 |
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| maxb | But yes, there's no real justification for escaping that + | 00:02 |
| poolie | abentley: hi? | 00:16 |
| abentley | poolie: hi | 00:16 |
| poolie | hi i think i have better tc instructions, i was wondering if you could try them on your machine | 00:16 |
| abentley | poolie: sure thing. | 00:17 |
| poolie | http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/developers/testing.html#simulating-slow-networks | 00:18 |
| poolie | basically, just omit the third line | 00:18 |
| poolie | i think that's all that's needed | 00:19 |
| poolie | like http://typewith.me/7hBAzi2MYN | 00:19 |
| abentley | poolie: tc qdisc add dev lo parent 30:1 handle 40: prio | 00:21 |
| abentley | RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported | 00:21 |
| poolie | yeah, leave that one out | 00:22 |
| poolie | just add the root discipline, the netem, and then the filters | 00:22 |
| abentley | poolie: If I continue, it errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658315/ | 00:23 |
| poolie | oh, omit the 'handle 800::800' | 00:23 |
| poolie | i realize randomly cutting things out does not generally seem to work but in this case it does :) | 00:24 |
| poolie | i think more stuff is now done automatically and is no longer allowed to be done manually | 00:24 |
| abentley | poolie: The typewith.me version doesn't error for me. | 00:24 |
| poolie | hooray | 00:24 |
| poolie | and does it work? | 00:24 |
| poolie | presumably you'll want different ports to 4155 | 00:24 |
| abentley | poolie: dunno, I don't have anything on 4155 :-) Let's try again with 80... | 00:25 |
| poolie | you might need more than 500ms for it to be clearly visible | 00:25 |
| mgz | poolie: when you have a moment, do you have the new PQM output for <lp:~mbp/bzr/test-errors>? | 00:28 |
| spiv | If you can't notice 500ms latency then you aren't making enough roundtrips ;) | 00:29 |
| abentley | poolie: I think it's working. | 00:29 |
| mgz | I'd like to build of that branch to resolve some remaining issues and get it landed at last. | 00:29 |
| poolie | btw i'm so happy to hear of lp people testing with that | 00:29 |
| poolie | were you going to use it for html/js ui stuff, or something else? | 00:29 |
| poolie | mgz, sure, me too | 00:29 |
| poolie | mgz, i put it on the mp; it looks very similar to what happened before | 00:31 |
| poolie | abentley, thanks, i'll update the bzr docs | 00:31 |
| abentley | poolie: yes, it's working. Thanks! | 00:31 |
| poolie | https://code.launchpad.net/~mbp/bzr/doc/+merge/70386 | 00:33 |
| mgz | poolie: thanks! I'll have a crack at that tomorrow. | 00:34 |
| poolie | thanks for fixing the knownfailure mismatch | 00:37 |
| poolie | i think there's a bug for that? | 00:37 |
| GRiD | hi poolie, did you have a moment to talk about bug #54624? | 01:12 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 54624 in Bazaar "warn when committing large (binary) files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54624 | 01:12 |
| poolie | oh hi | 01:13 |
| poolie | sure | 01:13 |
| poolie | so, you asked about doing it from 'add' | 01:13 |
| poolie | in bzr, add just means 'mark this as versioned' of course | 01:13 |
| poolie | so, we could usefully give a warning there i suppose | 01:13 |
| poolie | but, perhaps people also want to be warned if an already-added file grows very large? | 01:13 |
| poolie | maybe not | 01:13 |
| GRiD | ah, hadn't thought of that | 01:14 |
| GRiD | well, the original idea seemed to be to prevent people from adding large files they didn't really mean to | 01:14 |
| poolie | yeah, i think you're right | 01:15 |
| poolie | also it's a bit easier to undo at that point | 01:15 |
| poolie | and just a warning will do | 01:15 |
| GRiD | ok, so it seems it should check the file during the list it's running through during an add, and warning at that point, skipping it if it's over the threshold.. ? | 01:16 |
| GRiD | which should probably be configurable | 01:16 |
| poolie | yes | 01:16 |
| poolie | and this needs to cover files implicitly added by recursion | 01:16 |
| GRiD | i hadn't dug into it, but it seemed there was a per branch config file. is that the right place? | 01:16 |
| poolie | that sounds good | 01:17 |
| poolie | you should get the branch config stack, which will look there and in the globla config etc | 01:17 |
| GRiD | ok. and how are those adjusted usually - by manually editing a file? should there be a command line to override and force this? | 01:17 |
| poolie | either by editing the file or by 'bzr config' or the gui | 01:18 |
| poolie | there's a separate bug about adding a command line option to set config flags | 01:18 |
| poolie | so, i wouldn't worry about that right here | 01:18 |
| GRiD | ok | 01:18 |
| GRiD | ok, so i'll work something up and push it early to a branch for review, like you mentioned. | 01:27 |
| poolie | cool, thanks | 01:27 |
| poolie | don't feel it has be perfect before you ask for review | 01:27 |
| poolie | i have to go out in a bit but i'll be back within about 2 hours | 01:28 |
| poolie | i'm going to do lots of reviews today | 01:28 |
| GRiD | ah well it's night for me, i wouldn't have anything before tomorrow at least | 01:29 |
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| poolie | hi thomi | 06:29 |
| thomi | hi poolie | 06:29 |
| thomi | poolie: I notice that the diff on my lp merge proposal has merge conflict markers in it, but they're not in my local branch. LP bug perhaps? | 07:21 |
| thomi | also, if you're happy with my latest suggestion I'll go ahead and push that up now | 07:22 |
| poolie | thomi: i guess those conflicts are because the trunk changed since you started | 07:58 |
| thomi | poolie: oh, of course. Sorry, it's been a long week ;) | 07:59 |
| poolie | np, thanks for the patches | 08:00 |
| thomi | hmm, in trunk there's a half-written docstring in config.LocationStack that's causing the conflict. | 08:07 |
| thomi | poolie: are you happy with the approach I took in the config stuff? I'm done for the evening, but if you'd like me to change them let me know and I'll do final tweaks tomorrow. | 08:08 |
| poolie | i haven't reread the patch yet but it sounded good | 08:18 |
| * poolie looks now | 08:18 | |
| maxb | jelmer: hi. do you think we should care about shipping subvertpy 0.8 and bzr-svn 1.1 for hardy? | 09:04 |
| jelmer | hi Max | 09:06 |
| jelmer | maxb, I guess so, is there anything in particular that makes it hard to build subvertpy 0.8 on hardy? | 09:07 |
| maxb | jelmer: debhelper 8.1 :-) | 09:16 |
| poolie | hi jelmer! | 09:22 |
| poolie | hi maxb | 09:23 |
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| jelmer | hi poolie | 09:40 |
| jelmer | maxb: ah, argh | 09:40 |
| * jelmer tries to remember what we need 8.1 for | 09:40 | |
| poolie | wow | 09:41 |
| poolie | ok, that's confusing | 09:41 |
| poolie | oneiric's unity shows the wrong title bar text | 09:41 |
| poolie | or, slightly out of date | 09:41 |
| poolie | that was nearly embarassing | 09:42 |
| jelmer | ouch | 09:42 |
| jelmer | I'm finding unity fairly bleeding edge in oneiric too | 09:43 |
| poolie | it still says #canonical when i've clicked in to #bzr | 09:43 |
| poolie | i'm just going to file about that then perhaps you can help me with something small | 09:44 |
| fullermd | Are we expecting a 2.4 RC sometime, or is .0 final the next up? | 09:45 |
| poolie | .0 is next unless there's a showstopper | 09:45 |
| poolie | vila should be back from his break in a day or two | 09:49 |
| poolie | did you want to put something in it in particular? | 09:49 |
| poolie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/820836 | 09:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 820836 in unity (Ubuntu) "window title gets out of date" [Undecided,New] | 09:49 |
| fullermd | Nah, just curious. | 09:49 |
| vila | hi all ! | 10:02 |
| fullermd | Speaking of the devil... | 10:03 |
| vila | hmm, should I read the logs or can I get a summary ? ;) | 10:09 |
| jml | mgz: welcome back | 10:10 |
| fullermd | vila: Oh, nothing too interesting really. | 10:11 |
| fullermd | 04:49 <poolie> vila should be back from his break in a day or two | 10:11 |
| jml | mgz: I hope my fix for testtools actually fixed it, I don't have a windows install to test against | 10:11 |
| fullermd | Apparently, 13 minutes is a day. Or maybe two ;) | 10:11 |
| mgz | jml: thanks for the quick fix, I can pull again | 10:12 |
| vila | hehe, I'm back online but working from a friend's place, network needs to be tweaked, should be done soon | 10:12 |
| jml | mgz: cool. | 10:13 |
| vila | poolie: still around ? | 10:13 |
| jml | mgz: fwiw, I want to get the unicode bugs fixed, and then release asap | 10:13 |
| poolie | hi vila, welcome back | 10:13 |
| vila | jml: same here (but different project ;) | 10:13 |
| poolie | otp with jelmer atm | 10:14 |
| vila | ok | 10:14 |
| mgz | jml: that sounds good. I've got some ugly things I can do to make doctest work, can propose those and see how horrible you think they are | 10:15 |
| * mgz waves at vila | 10:15 | |
| jml | mgz: cool. | 10:15 |
| vila | mgz: _o/ | 10:15 |
| jml | mgz: now that I have an actual reliable way to run the tests across lots of Pythons, I feel much better about the whole thing | 10:16 |
| jml | oh | 10:16 |
| jml | never mind | 10:16 |
| mgz | well, that's also a good thing ;) | 10:17 |
| cheater | hi | 10:46 |
| cheater | how do i set up a bzr workflow where i can do local commits? | 10:46 |
| LeoNerd | bzr unbind ? | 10:47 |
| LeoNerd | Or just ci --local | 10:47 |
| LeoNerd | I usually opt for the latter on my laptop when I'm on the train | 10:47 |
| LeoNerd | then just push it later online | 10:47 |
| jpds | cheater: Isn't that the default? | 10:48 |
| jpds | With bzr branch? | 10:48 |
| poolie | the easy answer is to just branch and then you can commit locally | 10:53 |
| poolie | hi vila? | 10:53 |
| maxb | jelmer: For building subvertpy-dbg, and not having the #! lines sometimes point to the dbg python? | 10:53 |
| maxb | Anyway, I'm not too concerned, given I've already backported dh 7.3.15 to hardy .... 7.3 -> 8.1 can't introduce that many more requirements, right? :-) | 10:54 |
| jml | mgz: I feel like I'm still missing something re bug 804127 | 10:55 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 804127 in testtools "assertThat(..., verbose=True) sometimes generates unprintable AssertionErrors" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804127 | 10:55 |
| jelmer | maxb, :) | 10:55 |
| poolie | hullo jml! | 10:55 |
| jml | mgz: I guess Mismatch.describe() has a poorly defined interface, since it's not clear if it returns bytes or unicode | 10:55 |
| jml | poolie: hi :) | 10:55 |
| poolie | ... "sometimes generates unprintable comments from developers" | 10:55 |
| jml | poolie: hah | 10:56 |
| jml | poolie: you'll like the new release actually, it's much less noisy. much better errors (when they work) | 10:56 |
| poolie | oh excellent | 10:56 |
| poolie | mgz and i were working on a branch to suppress some of the bzr-side noise | 10:56 |
| jml | mgz: but perhaps you mean something else by not having a clear interface | 10:58 |
| jml | gahr. I should reply to the comment. I always hate it when people take things to IRC & then don't update. | 10:58 |
| poolie | vila, hi? | 10:59 |
| mgz | jml: right, if it's not clear what describe is allowed to return, you'll risk mixing non-ascii byte strings and unicode strings | 11:00 |
| mgz | okay, I need to nip out for a bit now, will be around again later | 11:01 |
| jml | mgz: cool. I'll update the bug report. Am keen to get this one nailed. | 11:01 |
| cheater | jpds, oh, i did bzr checkout. | 11:01 |
| cheater | thanks guys. | 11:01 |
| jml | mgz: thank you again for helping! | 11:01 |
| jelmer | cheater: bzr checkout creates a branch that's bound to the master branch, so every commit automatically goes there as well. bzr branch creates an independent branch. | 11:02 |
| poolie | night all | 11:07 |
| cheater | jelmer, gotcha :) | 11:10 |
| exarkun | oops, looks like bzr-hg plugin is not happy with beta bzr (or maybe I need beta bzr-hg to go with it) | 11:20 |
| exarkun | What's the quickest way to toggle a bzr plugin on and off? | 11:21 |
| exarkun | moving it out of the plugin directory I guess | 11:22 |
| jelmer | exarkun: yeah, either that or setting BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=hg as environment variable | 11:24 |
| vila | jelmer: what happened to the idea of making tag fetching optional for 2.4 ? | 11:49 |
| vila | jelmer: and more to the point should I delay the 2.4.0 release because of it ? | 11:50 |
| jelmer | vila: hey, welcome back! | 11:51 |
| vila | :) | 11:51 |
| jelmer | vila: Did you have a good vacation? | 11:51 |
| vila | yup, tons of hot weather | 11:51 |
| jelmer | \o/ | 11:51 |
| vila | I'm in Val's baggages visiting a friend in Bretagne where the weather is.... different ;) | 11:52 |
| jelmer | Bretagne, nice :) | 11:52 |
| jelmer | Well, if the weather is nice :) | 11:53 |
| jelmer | vila: there hasn't been much progress on making tag fetching optional, as it's been pretty quiet around here | 11:53 |
| vila | yeah, it rains only once a year | 11:53 |
| jelmer | vila: I do think we really should make it optional before 2.4. | 11:53 |
| vila | but it almost never stops ;) | 11:53 |
| jelmer | vila: hehe | 11:53 |
| vila | jelmer: ok, so I should postpone the release for a week then | 11:54 |
| vila | jelmer: do we have a bug number for that ? | 11:55 |
| jelmer | I don't think we do yet | 11:55 |
| vila | ok | 11:55 |
| vila | anything else I should be aware of ? (I haven't read all backlogged mail yet) | 11:56 |
| vila | (but noticed babune being red in anger all over the place ;) | 11:56 |
| jelmer | vila: Yeah :-( | 11:57 |
| jelmer | vila: The other big news is that haproxy is now enable for codehosting \o/ | 11:57 |
| vila | \o/ | 11:57 |
| jelmer | there is one bzr bug related to that, but it's been present for a while so I'm not sure how important it is to fix before 2.4.0 | 11:58 |
| jelmer | bug 819604 | 11:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 819604 in Bazaar "when an idle ssh transport is interrupted, bzrlib errors" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819604 | 11:58 |
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| jelmer | vila: I vaguely recall you had some plans for running the tests against bzr.dev on babune, is that correct? | 13:07 |
| vila | jelmer: err, babune is running all tests against bzr.dev :) Which tests are you reffering | 13:27 |
| vila | referring to ? | 13:27 |
| jelmer | vila: sorry, I meant plugin tests | 13:27 |
| vila | ha, right, yeah, still planned, no ETA ;-} | 13:28 |
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| abetterlie | hey all, I have a quick question about push-and-update plugin | 15:19 |
| abetterlie | I'm running bzr 3.2.1, and I moved the __init__.py and the push_and_update.py to my .bazaar/plugins | 15:20 |
| abetterlie | and no matter which transport I use, either bzr+ssh or sftp, I get This transport does not update the working tree of bzr+ssh://matt@192.168.12.164/etc/puppet/ | 15:21 |
| abetterlie | can anyone explain how to use this plugin? | 15:21 |
| abetterlie | ... please? | 15:26 |
| jelmer | hi abetterlie | 15:35 |
| jelmer | abetterlie: You need to add the plugin directory as a whole to ~/.bazaar/plugins | 15:36 |
| abetterlie | ah | 15:41 |
| abetterlie | ok | 15:41 |
| abetterlie | and it also needs to be renamed push_and_update, because - is not allowed for some reason | 15:42 |
| abetterlie | weird, becuase I have some precommit hooks that are bare .py files in .bazaar/plugins and they work just fine | 15:42 |
| fullermd | That only works if $pluginname is entirely contained in $pluginname.py | 15:43 |
| abetterlie | I see. | 15:44 |
| abetterlie | when I push, bzr is still spitting errors, but the plugin seems to be working fine. | 15:46 |
| abetterlie | should I file a bug? | 15:46 |
| fullermd | It'd be an enhancement, maybe. | 15:47 |
| fullermd | bzr's push still doesn't do anything with the remote working tree. The plugin just makes it so when you run 'push', it does bzr's push and then _also_ does something else that does the update. | 15:47 |
| fullermd | I could see arguments both ways about supressing the message. Not sure how easy it would be to do. | 15:48 |
| fullermd | Hm. | 15:49 |
| fullermd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-push-and-update/+bug/360521 | 15:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 360521 in Plugin to Update Remote Trees "Warning about working trees not updating not suppressed" [Medium,Fix committed] | 15:49 |
| fullermd | That sounds like it should already be there. | 15:49 |
| abetterlie | ah | 15:49 |
| abetterlie | that's the one | 15:49 |
| abetterlie | http://pastebin.com/XU9ybkka | 15:49 |
| abetterlie | I don't see why it was ever changed from a seprate command push-and-update | 15:50 |
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| eridu | is there any way to disable SSL certificate checks in pycurl, or to enable authentication caching in urllib2? | 16:36 |
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| poolie | hi all | 23:17 |
| jelmer | mørning poolie | 23:27 |
| poolie | moin | 23:30 |
| GRiD | hello | 23:42 |
| poolie | hi grid | 23:44 |
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