[04:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You just got a Mac, right?
[04:10] <ScottK> Can you at least to the live tests for http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/6219
[04:51] <DarkwingDuck> garg
[04:53] <ScottK> That bad?
[05:01] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, that was strange...
[05:05] <DarkwingDuck> ran the headers upgrade and my system freaked out for a TON of read-only errors.
[05:06] <ScottK> Doesn't sound good.
[05:06] <ScottK> Sounds like time for a full backup of any important data the does NOT overwrite any existing backups.
[05:10] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I'm backing up now.
[05:10] <DarkwingDuck> I need to redo my partitions anyway so i can setup a dev environment.
[05:10] <DarkwingDuck> I've never actually done that before so, my norm in partitions isn't going to work. :D
[05:13] <DarkwingDuck> I don't want to use virtbox anymore for dev environments.
[05:24] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: pingie
[05:25] <DarkwingDuck> Wait, what am I thinking? It's about 5a there...
[05:25] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: sorry mate, sleep.
[05:40] <ScottK> He's probably still up, just too drunk to talk.
[05:40] <ScottK> or type
[06:51] <Quintasan> ScottK: ISOs still need testing?
[07:32] <xdatap1> agateau, good morning
[07:33] <agateau> xdatap1: morning!
[07:35] <xdatap1> agateau, I would like a suggestion from you about the Qt python wrapper. If an application developper would ask you which one between PyQT or Pyside for a new application, what would you recommend?
[07:36] <agateau> xdatap1: I have never used Pyside yet, I think PyQt is more widely used
[07:36] <agateau> xdatap1: but from what I heard they should be mostly compatible
[07:37] <agateau> xdatap1: don't take my word on it though
[07:38] <xdatap1> agateau, yes they are quite similar with the syntax. The thing is that I'm writing a Quickly template for qtquick application and I haven't a clear idea about which one is the best
[07:38] <xdatap1> agateau, anyway, thank you for your time :)
[07:39] <agateau> xdatap1: nice to hear about Quickly getting support for Qt!
[07:43] <xdatap1> agateau, I just started working on it. :)
[07:44] <agateau> xdatap1: it's Quickly, you should be done quick :)
[07:44] <xdatap1> agateau, that's true, LOL
[07:49] <bambee> morning
[07:50] <bambee> ScottK: for iso testing, it's still using http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ ?
[08:09] <bambee> About the next kubuntu council meeting, I propose today 15:00 UTC
[08:10] <bambee> (see doodle, everyone is available)
[08:18] <bambee> rhaaaaa virtualbox is broken... o_O
[08:33] <debfx> bambee: how so?
[08:34] <bambee> debfx: see #ubuntu-devel, I pasted the log
[08:46] <yofel> morning
[08:47] <yofel> bambee: I got "Invalid module format" from  nvidia once, reinstall fixed it
[08:47] <yofel> don't ask me how that happened though...
[09:01] <steveire> ScottK: Thanks for the bug report. I'll try to have a look over th weekend.
[09:26] <bambee> yofel: fixed
[09:26] <bambee> debfx: my hero :D
[09:26] <yofel> right, the module build was broken
[09:27] <bambee> probably... who knows..
[09:29] <debfx> it was probably a bug in dkms (fixed in 2.2.0.2-1)
[09:43] <bambee> mhhh ubiquity crashes
[09:44] <bambee> manual partitionning, I create two partitions :  / with btrfs and a swap partition , then I click on apply and then => ubiquity is stopped and a kde session is started o_O
[09:44] <yofel> o.O
[09:44] <jussi> cripes!
[09:45] <bambee> I file a bug
[09:45] <yofel> didn't happen here when I did manual partitioning on the i386 desktop disk
[09:45] <bambee> mhhh I get a black screen
[09:45] <bambee> interesting
[09:45] <bambee> yofel: it's an amd64 desktop disk on virtualbox here
[09:46] <yofel> fun
[09:46] <bambee> I will check the disk (just in case...)
[09:47] <bambee> no errors found o_O
[09:47] <bambee> kubuntu desktop amd64 is dead
[09:47] <bambee> "FATAL: error inserting ramzswap"
[09:48] <bambee> (on tty1)
[09:48] <bambee> with exactly the same error than vboxdrv
[09:48] <bambee> "ramzswap.ko: invalid module format"
[09:49] <bambee> other modules are probably broken in this images...
[09:49] <bambee> I will try to get a backtrace/log
[09:49] <bambee> (assuming it's a crash... I don't know...)
[09:51] <bambee> I cannot access to tty1 o_O
[09:51] <bambee> everything is "black"
[10:08] <bambee> bug 820842
[10:10] <bambee> the last kubuntu desktop amd64 image seems totally borked
[10:11] <bambee> ScottK: ping
[10:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: actually I went to bed at 3:30 :P
[10:45] <bambee> yofel: did you try wih VBOX?
[10:50] <bambee> switching from 512MB to 1024MB solves the problem BUT it worked just fine with this topology with natty images...
[10:51] <bambee> and 150MB of my swap partition are used.... o_O
[10:57] <davmor2> bambee: goto #ubuntu-installer tell cjwatson and ev about the setup you are using so they can replicate it and hopefully they can fix it, sounds like an issue in ubiquity-kde to me but they'll soon tell you
[10:57] <bambee> davmor2: ok
[11:34] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yes, i'll try them out at DS
[11:34] <shadeslayer> i might have to buy a CD tho, the live usb by itself might not boot
[11:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: don't forget the dongle! :P
[11:40] <Riddell> agateau, didrocks: either of you worked out how to get from Tegel to the hotel in Berlin?
[11:41] <didrocks> Riddell: just take the TXL bus line
[11:41] <didrocks> Riddell: it's the last stop, at AlexanerPlatz
[11:41] <didrocks> that's what we took with agateau for the Qt contributor summit and the hotel we are in is just next to hit
[11:41] <didrocks> it*
[11:41] <didrocks> Riddell: when are you arriving btw?
[11:45] <Riddell> didrocks: 11:20 hrs
[11:46] <didrocks> Riddell: ok, I'm arriving later, at 16:30, are you going to the pre-registration then?
[11:46] <Riddell> yes I guess so
[11:53] <bambee> ScottK: I propose the next kubuntu Council Meeting today at 3:00 p.m UTC,  Riddell would be present
[12:05] <Riddell> works for me
[12:09] <yofel> bambee: I tried with vbox, but 1G of RAM. At least the Ubuntu disk worked, need to try the kubuntu one
[12:09] <bambee> yofel: 512Mb should be sufficient, imho. It worked just fine for the previous release
[12:10] <bambee> also with 1024Mb , 150Mb of my swap are used o_O
[12:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: you going to be at the pre-registration even?
[12:22] <yofel> *event
[12:24]  * rbelem just discovered `fakeroot debian/rules list-missing` :-O
[12:40] <yofel> bambee: don't forget to mark your test case failed if it failed
[12:41] <bambee> yofel: done
[12:41] <bambee> already done, I mean
[12:42] <yofel> bambee: still shows as running here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/6218/55
[12:42] <bambee> yofel: good catch
[13:15] <ScottK> bambee: OK.  I may (it turns out) have to be on IRC via my phone, but it's OK.  I'll vot by email after if it doesn't work out.
[13:16] <shadeslayer> yofel: yes, i'll have to find my way around tho
[13:16] <yofel> k, I'll try to be there around 5PM, probably won't arrive in berlin before 3 and need to find the place I'm staying at first
[13:20] <yofel> btw. are we going to package digikam? If yes it would need libkface and libkmap which would need to get in before FF
[13:21] <yofel> *libkgeomap
[13:23]  * shadeslayer has to fix his glibc first
[13:30] <shadeslayer> i hope the hostel net isn't complete crap
[13:32] <yofel> well, we'll get access to the uni wifi from what I read. In my hostel I'll have to use mobile :/
[13:35] <ScottK> bambee: Would you please talk to claydoh_ about getting the minumum install ram into the release notes.
[13:35] <shadeslayer> ok, bbl
[13:36] <bambee> ScottK: are you serious? are you saying that a minimum of 1024Mb is necessary to install oneiric? it worked like a charm with 512Mb on natty...
[13:36] <bambee> ScottK: but sure, I can
[13:36] <bambee> np
[13:40] <bambee> seems to work with 768Mb
[13:42] <bambee> 120 MB just for ubiquity ? o_O
[13:42] <yofel> it's python
[13:45] <bambee> well, it works with 768Mb
[13:51] <bambee> claydoh_: could you change the release notes ? the minimum ram to install kubuntu (via ubiquity) is 768MB
[13:51] <bambee> change, or note it to add it later
[14:00] <bambee> Riddell, apachelogger : it's okay for a meeting today at 3:00 p.m UTC ? 
[14:00] <bambee> arrff David is offline :\
[14:01] <apachelogger> bambee: depends on how long the meeting is
[14:02] <bambee> it's just to review my membership application... I don't think it will be long...
[14:05] <apachelogger> What I like best about the frontend MO is how it does have an implicit default ctor
[14:05] <apachelogger> whooop whooop
[14:05] <apachelogger> oh, wrong channel :D
[14:23] <Riddell> bambee: yes
[14:23] <bambee> great
[14:27] <ScottK> bambee at this point I'd call it a bug that we need to document.
[14:29] <bambee> ScottK: right
[15:02] <bambee> ScottK, Riddell, apachelogger, yofel:   meeting
[15:02] <Riddell> cor, a meeting
[15:03]  * yofel isn't on the council, but here anyway :)
[15:03] <Riddell> ScottK, apachelogger: here?
[15:03] <bambee> ScottK, apachelogger: around?
[15:04] <Riddell> hmm, guess not
[15:05] <bambee> o.O
[15:06] <danimo> Riddell: who packages Qt?
[15:06] <bambee> ScottK said  "<ScottK> bambee: OK.  I may (it turns out) have to be on IRC via my phone, but it's OK.  I'll vot by email after if it doesn't work out."
[15:06] <danimo> Riddell: if no single person, who could I speak to? :)
[15:07] <Riddell> danimo: it's a joint effort (and not by me currently), you can ping the likes of ScottK or didrocks who did the last upload or e-mail kubuntu-devel list
[15:07] <yofel> bambee: go to #phonon and drag him over...
[15:07] <bambee> yofel: already done
[15:08] <apachelogger> Sorry, got distracated with debugging.
[15:08] <apachelogger> Hello everyone
[15:09] <bambee> :)
[15:09] <apachelogger> I have a pre-vote from ScottK, so we have quorum.
[15:09] <Riddell> cor
[15:09] <Riddell> bambee: got a wiki page?
[15:09] <bambee> Riddell: yes
[15:10] <bambee> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RomainPerier
[15:10] <danimo> ScottK: ping?
[15:10] <apachelogger> bambee: tell us about you, your work in kubuntu and why you are awesome
[15:10] <Riddell> MASTER!
[15:11] <bambee> My name is Romain Perier, I am a french engineer, I discovered kubuntu when the maverick meerkat has been released, and  I am a contributor since... february 2011
[15:11] <bambee> (when natty alpha3 is out!)
[15:12] <bambee> basically what are my contributions ? I have rewritten language-selector for KDE, now it's fully integrated in systemsettings and no longer runs as root
[15:12] <Riddell> bambee: how do you think Kubuntu is doing in my absense?
[15:13] <apachelogger> wohooo \o/
[15:13] <bambee> I have did packaging
[15:15] <Riddell> bambee: what first attracted you to the supremely awesome distro Kubuntu?
[15:15] <bambee> Riddell: since you're working with the bazaar team, the community is really active, it was already very active before of course. I think it's a good think, because a project like kubuntu needs a good and a strong community 
[15:15] <bambee> s/think/thing/
[15:15] <kubotu> bambee meant: "Riddell: since you're working with the bazaar team, the community is really active, it was already very active before of course. I thing it's a good think, because a project like kubuntu needs a good and a strong community"
[15:15] <apachelogger> bambee: What in your opinion makes Kubuntu different from other KDE software based distributions?
[15:15] <bambee> Riddell: my motivations ? kubuntu has an excellent kde integration
[15:16] <bambee> typically firefox
[15:16] <bambee> all patch or fixes applied and usually applied on upstream and it's definitively an important thing !
[15:16] <bambee> (it's not the case for all distros)
[15:16] <bambee> the community is just awesome
[15:18] <apachelogger> bambee: are you a secret agent of the empire of phonon preparing a hostile takeover to make us phononOS? 
[15:18] <bambee> the nice thing with kubuntu is how it's easy for a beginner to do what he wants to do, everything is accessible, everything is easy to do, we've great graphical tools (muon is a great example)
[15:19] <bambee> apachelogger: lool
[15:19] <Riddell> bambee: how are we looking for alpha 3?
[15:19] <bambee> apachelogger: no I am not, I am just a active contributor for now... but who knows....
[15:20] <bambee> s/a active/an active/
[15:20] <kubotu> bambee meant: "apachelogger: no I am not, I am just an active contributor for now... but who knows...."
[15:21] <bambee> Riddell: I don't understand your question
[15:22]  * bambee blames his frenchy english (again)
[15:23] <Riddell> bambee: comment ca va alpha trois?
[15:25] <bambee> ohh, kde 4.7 has been released and will be available for the alpha3, a lot of things has been done (many packages has been splitted), except stranges bugs with iso testing this morning everything is good
[15:26] <Riddell> formidable
[15:26] <bambee> :D
[15:26] <apachelogger> bambee: when will we reach world domination?
[15:26] <bambee> Riddell: you can reswitch to english now :P
[15:26] <Riddell> bambee est +1 pour moi
[15:27] <bambee> :D
[15:27] <bambee> apachelogger: really soon, I hope
[15:27] <apachelogger> perfect
[15:27] <bambee> apachelogger: we've to kill micro****ft before, and kill apple :P
[15:28] <apachelogger> +1 from me
[15:28] <apachelogger> now we need drum roll for ScottK's vote or something
[15:28] <apachelogger> no sound effects on IRC
[15:28] <apachelogger> too bad
[15:28] <Riddell> ba da da da da da da da..
 If I don't make the meeting, please vote my +1 for bambee.
[15:28] <bambee> :D
[15:28] <apachelogger> bambee: welcome to the kubuntu pre-alcoholics :)
[15:28] <Riddell> chaca ching
[15:28] <bambee> MOHAHAHA!!!
[15:28] <bambee> hehe thanks !!
[15:29]  * bambee orders rum , vodka and beer for everyone (with girls too :P)
[15:29] <apachelogger> Any other business?
[15:29] <Riddell> who's going to Berlin?
[15:29] <yofel> bambee: congrats :)
[15:29] <apachelogger> memememe
[15:30] <yofel> me too :)
[15:30] <bambee> yofel: thanks :)
[15:30] <Riddell> bambee: I've added you to ~kubuntu-members, you can add a blog to planet ubuntu and bambi@kubuntu .org should start working in the next few days
[15:30]  * yofel finally won't have to merge bambee's branches anymore...
[15:30] <bambee> Riddell: thanks you!!
[15:30] <bambee> :)
[15:30] <yofel> from now on you need to merge if someone proposes something :P
[15:30] <apachelogger> Oh on a DS related topic, I'll be joining an upstream/downstream talk monday afternoon (1600 CEST or so) talking about the awesomness of Kubuntu's love for KDE and all that.
[15:31] <bambee> yofel: sure :)
[15:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: you are coming to Berlin?
[15:31] <Riddell> I am indeed, first thing tomorrow morning
[15:32] <yofel> yay
[15:32] <apachelogger> awesome, I'll be there just in time for the beach party ^^
[15:33] <Riddell> apachelogger:  pack your bikini then
[15:33] <yofel> apachelogger: you won't be there before sunday?
[15:33] <yofel> lol
[15:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: already done ^^
[15:34] <apachelogger> Oh, another DS related topic, eean is going to join the lightning talks sunday afternoon (1400 CEST or so) presenting something rather interesting for Kubuntu
[15:34] <Riddell> what should one do in Berlin on a Friday afternoon?
[15:34] <apachelogger> in fact the reason he has something to announce is because we were talking abou this at a kubuntu meeting about a year ago ;)
[15:34] <Riddell> apachelogger: a surprise something?
[15:35] <apachelogger> yup, a very sweet one :D
[15:35] <Riddell> how exciting
[15:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: reagarding friday afternoon ... I'd suggest to find markey, he will come up with something fun to do for sure ;)
[15:39] <Quintasan> bambee: Grats
[15:39] <Quintasan> Riddell: How's work in Bazaar team?
[15:39] <bambee> apachelogger: how many phenominals people are coming to DS ?
[15:39] <bambee> bazaar <3
[15:39] <bambee> Quintasan: hehe, thanks :D
[15:40] <bambee> kubuntu member... I did it... moahahaha :P
[15:40] <bambee> :D
[15:40] <apachelogger> bambee: eean, coling, myself I guess
[15:40] <Quintasan> kubotu: order cookies for bambee 
[15:40]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to bambee.
[15:40] <bambee> :D
[15:41] <Quintasan> bambee: Expect to be swamped with work :)
[15:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Will lighning talks be streamed?
[15:43] <bambee> apachelogger: what's the plan? talk about the next release ? and how phonon will rock with qml ? :D
[15:43] <bambee> and how ka**eine sucks without phonon :P
[15:46] <bambee> Quintasan: I am the new minion... :P
[15:48] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I think so, at least they will be recorded
[15:51] <Riddell> Quintasan: challenging but rewarding
[16:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I'll be looking forward to the surprise then
[16:05] <Quintasan> Riddell: Good to hear that :)
[16:05]  * Quintasan goes drinking for the weekend
[16:22]  * bambee goes drinking for the evening
[16:23]  * yofel goes packing
[16:26] <bambee> yofel: ping me this evening, I will help you ;)
[16:26] <bambee> (in 2 or 3 hours)
[16:27] <Quintasan> sheytan: Were you playing TF2 today?
[16:44] <skaet> apachelogger, is there anyone working on testing the Kubuntu Mobile images,  or are they not planned to be released with A3?
[16:54] <skaet> rbelem, ^^
[16:56] <rbelem> skaet, it will be ready for B1
[16:56] <skaet> rbelem,  thanks,  will update the release image list accordingly.
[16:56] <rbelem> skaet, :-0
[16:56] <rbelem> ops
[16:56] <rbelem> skaet, :-)
[16:57] <skaet> :)
[17:23] <apachelogger> sheytan: pingping
[17:30] <debfx> danimo: what's wrong with our Qt package? :)
[17:32] <sheytan> apachelogger: pong
[17:32] <debfx> bambee_: congrats :D
[17:32] <apachelogger> sheytan: do you already have an idea for the subtitle/audiotrack/aspectratio settings?
[17:33] <apachelogger> got recently played implemented and merged with subtitle and audiotrack enabled phonon gstreamer, so I can do that too now
[17:33] <sheytan> well, how about auto-discover subtitles?
[17:34]  * apachelogger points out that some of his systems have german locale yet he likes to watch anime with english subs
[17:35] <sheytan> apachelogger: your system is utf8 so no problem with encoding. If you have english subtitles in txt files it displays english, if german, then german
[17:36]  * apachelogger points out that various container formats can have subtitles embedded
[17:36] <apachelogger> multiple of those
[17:36] <apachelogger> also there are DVDs
[17:36] <apachelogger> sheytan: also subtitles are rarely in UTF8
[17:37] <apachelogger> only MKV enforces that I believe
[17:37] <apachelogger> other than that they can be *any* encoding
[17:38] <sheytan> apachelogger you need a ssettings dialog anyway. Put all of them there
[17:40] <apachelogger> hence I am asking what the dialog should look like
[17:55] <sheytan> apachelogger: i can't tell ya till i have all the stuff list you want to put there
[17:55] <apachelogger> everything that is in dragonplayer
[17:56] <sheytan> apachelogger: do the UI and i will show you the right way then :)
[17:56] <apachelogger> sheytan: #phonon
[17:59] <jmichaelx> since upgrading to 4.7, icons frequently remain in the task manager after the corresponding windows are closed. this is on 2 different machines, one with an intel GPU w/FOSS drivers, the other with an nvidia ion2 GPU and prop. drivers. is this a known issue? is there a workaround?
[17:59] <jmichaelx> also, this is in kubuntu 11.04
[18:24] <sf55> does the daily-live cd have kde 4.7 stable?
[18:26] <yofel> the oneiric one? yes
[18:27] <sf55> thanks, looking through the stats page
[18:30] <ScottK> danimo: Pong
[18:30] <ScottK> Can someone add a Muon screenie and description to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Alpha3/Kubuntu
[18:32] <markey> apachelogger: the KDE 4.7 packages for 11.04 are outstanding. upgrade was very smooth :)
[18:32] <markey> upgraded half of our office, and my home box
[18:32] <markey> ok bbl, gym
[18:39] <jmichaelx> since upgrading to kde 4.7 in kubuntu 11.04, icons frequently remain in the task manager after the corresponding windows are closed. this is on 2 different machines, one with an intel GPU w/FOSS drivers, the other with an nvidia ion2 GPU and prop. drivers. is this a known issue? is there a workaround?
[18:42] <yofel> jmichaelx: doesn't happen here, or do you have 'Show a Launcher for XXXXX when it is not running." On? (That's broken for me though)
[18:50] <jmichaelx> yofel: where would that setting be?
[18:51] <jmichaelx> yofel: also, i am aware that many are not experiencing this problem, but i have encountered others in #kubuntu who have
[18:51] <yofel> it's a per-app setting in the right click menu of the app in the task manager
[18:51] <yofel> I would file a bug upstream
[18:51] <jmichaelx> yofel: ahh, no that is not selected
[18:52] <jmichaelx> yofel: i would like to find out about this by asking around a little before going through the mess of filing a bug report.
[18:53] <jmichaelx> yofel: however, i will try to file a bug report soon, once i can somewhat establish that it is indeed a bug from upstream
[18:56] <ScottK> I added some text about Muon, so someone adding a screenie would really be appreciated.
[18:56] <ScottK> ryanakca: Do we have an Alpha 3 release announcement prepped for the web site?
[18:56] <ryanakca> ScottK: Not to my knowledge, but I can write one up now if you'd like
[18:57] <ScottK> ryanakca: That would be very handy as I think we're close to release.
[18:57] <danimo> ScottK: hey
[18:57] <ScottK> Hello danimo.
[18:58] <ryanakca> (I have the joys of trying use launchpadlib, I might as well do something productive while I wait for it to finish fetching)
[19:01] <ScottK> danimo: You pinged me earlier.  What's up?
[19:01] <jmichaelx> this is probably not at all relevant, but both of the machines on which i am experiencing this problem use dual-core atom d525 CPUs 
[19:02] <ScottK> Shouldn't be.
[19:05] <jmichaelx> ScottK: were you responding to me?
[19:05] <ScottK> jmichaelx: I was
[19:06] <jmichaelx> ScottK: ok. yea, i figured the CPU likely had no bearing on anything, it was just one thing the two machines have in common
[19:06] <ryanakca> I'm guessing the "Get Kubuntu/Free CD Shipment" link on http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu can go?
[19:09] <ScottK> Yes.
[19:12] <danimo> ScottK: any idea why the source files for the Qt examples and demos are in a seperate package than the binary examples?
[19:13] <ScottK> No.
[19:13] <ScottK> I don't think we make any changes from Debian on that.
[19:13] <ScottK> fabo would be the best person to ask.
[19:14] <ScottK> micahg: Muon fix uploaded.
[19:14] <micahg> ScottK: thanks
[19:24]  * ScottK wonders who kubuntu_news is and when they will get busy with their tweeting/denting.
[19:26]  * ryanakca kicks login.ubuntu.com for taking forever to load and keeping him from logging into the wiki.
[19:32] <ScottK> Announcement is up on kubuntu.org thanks to ryanakca.
[19:33] <ScottK> Could someone change the topic in #kubuntu (if it's not done already)
[19:33]  * ScottK goes to get the dog from the vet.
[19:34] <ScottK> Tm_T: I'm having the powerpc images saved for a couple of days so we can still release them if you can test.
[19:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I'm having the amd64+mac images saved for a couple of days so we can still release them if you can test.
[20:07] <ScottK> Does anyone know where the Kickoff part of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/+bug/820491 needs to be fixed?
[20:12] <muntiKubu> After a break to package KDE SC 4.7.0, the second alpha release of Kubuntu Oneiric has been released.  Should have been third?
[20:13] <muntiKubu> wait.. sorry 2nd was not released
[20:13] <muntiKubu> my bad
[20:14] <muntiKubu> but title said A3?
[20:15] <muntiKubu> sorry..just bored  :)
[20:18] <DarkwingDuck> BAH!
[20:18] <DarkwingDuck> This is what happens when I don't wake up at 5am to look at my emails.
[20:23] <ScottK> muntiKubu: It's Alpha 3 for Oneiric, but the second one for Kubuntu as we skipped Alpha 2.  Not sure how best to word that.
[20:23] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: How did the meeting go?
[20:24] <ScottK> DarkwingDuck: bambee_ is in.
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> Okay good. 
[20:24] <ScottK> bambee_: Congratulations, BTW.
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> Sorry I missed it.
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> bambee_: Congrats!
[20:24] <ScottK> It worked out.
[20:24] <ScottK> It's not like his was a really hard one to decide.
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> Had something pop up (Kids were sick all night)
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[20:24] <ScottK> "Fun"
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> Nope, not at all.
[20:25] <DarkwingDuck> I need to get ready for the doc scramble at the end of the month.
[20:25] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: you going to be at UDS in Oct?
[20:25] <ScottK> Unlikely.
[20:26] <DarkwingDuck> BUmmer
[20:26] <ScottK> Currently I'm not planning on it.  It'd be missing Halloween two years in a row.
[20:26] <DarkwingDuck> :/
[20:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'm trying to get there... depends on how my sponsership request goes.
[20:26] <DarkwingDuck> Or, if I end up getting this job.
[20:30] <micahg> ScottK: you will be missed then :), maybe come for half the week?
[20:31] <ScottK> Maybe.  Work is also pretty busy.
[20:31] <debfx> apachelogger: could you add a license header to the kubuntu-dev-tools scripts you've written
[20:34] <ScottK> debfx: Can you upload korundum from Ninjas?
[20:37] <debfx> can do
[20:43] <ScottK> Great.
[20:48] <apachelogger> debfx: or you could :P
[20:48]  * apachelogger considers them not licenseworthy material
[20:49] <bambee_> ScottK, DarkwingDuck:  thanks !!! :D
[20:49]  * bambee_ is back
[20:50] <bambee> debfx: thanks!! :D
[20:52] <debfx> apachelogger: I can't
[20:53] <debfx> and they need to have copyright + license information
[20:57] <apachelogger> debfx: got a header for all-permissive stuff at hand?
[20:57] <debfx> apachelogger: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
[21:00] <apachelogger> yet another long license
[21:00] <apachelogger> when there is more words in the license than in the code then clearly something is wrong with the license
[21:01] <debfx> or the ISC license
[21:01] <debfx> ScottK: uploaded
[21:01] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:01] <ScottK> apachelogger: Use wtfpl then.
[21:07] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Long time no talk mate?
[21:09] <bambee> alpha3 announced... great! :D
[21:09] <bambee> how does it work to post news btw ? I mean, kubuntu members can do that, right?
[21:10] <bambee> (don't worry, I won't post something, I am just curious)
[21:10] <bambee> :)
[21:12] <yofel_> bambee: not quite, you need the account data for the admin account on kubuntu.org
[21:12] <ScottK> bambee: For news postings on kubuntu.org only a few people have the password.
[21:13] <ScottK> bambee: Now that you're a member though you can add your blog to planet.ubuntu.com.
[21:13] <bambee> I understand, np :)
[21:13] <bambee> as I said, I am just curious ;)
[21:14] <bambee> ScottK: I am reading the wiki page for that (planet) :)
[21:15] <yofel> make sure you don't use a https:// address to your freed, the planet can't handle that
[21:15] <yofel> s/freed/feed
[21:15] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: all your fault :P
[21:16] <ScottK> debfx: It misses a license unfortunately.
[21:16] <ScottK> debfx: Can you add the license in tools/rbkconfig_compiler/kcfg.xsd to debian/copyright and upload again?
[21:19] <debfx> ok
[21:27] <bambee> yofel: noted
[21:42]  * ScottK hugs yofel for ISO testing.
[21:43]  * bambee hugs yofel without a specific reason
[21:44]  * yofel hugs bambee for fighting OOM-kills on the isos :P
[21:44] <bambee> :P
[21:44]  * ScottK adds bambee to the hug.
[21:44] <yofel> ^^
[21:45] <bambee> Is there ubiquity on the alternates cd?
[21:45] <yofel> well then, I'm off to bed. I'll poke around once I've done the registration at DS. See you there.
[21:45] <bambee> (I have never tried...)
[21:45] <yofel> bambee: no, they use debian-installer
[21:46] <bambee> so it would be possible to install kubuntu with 512Mb using these alternate cds...
[21:46] <yofel> right (probably less)
[21:46] <bambee> I've an old PC at home, I will try one day
[21:47] <yofel> mv $me /dev/bed
[21:47] <yofel> good night ;)
[21:48]  * Daskreech hugs emma ... cause
[21:48] <bambee> yofel: night
[21:48] <Daskreech> fine.
[21:48]  * Daskreech hugs yofel good night
[21:54] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Aye, it is my fault... 
[21:54] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: You going to be in Florida in October?
[21:55] <apachelogger> if I get sponsship
[21:55] <apachelogger> sponsorship even
[22:02] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, that's the deal I'm sitting in too.
[22:03]  * Blizzz waves at apachelogger
[22:04] <apachelogger> Blizzz: yo
[22:04] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: you've been missed in budapest
[22:05] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: also since scott was complaining about the lack of triagers .... any news on starship troopers?
[22:05] <Blizzz> apachelogger: what about desktop summit?
[22:05] <apachelogger> Blizzz: oh, did I not tell you, I got invited to stay with the tomahawk team
[22:05] <apachelogger> Blizzz: are you attending btw?
[22:06] <Blizzz> Blizzz: good to know ;)
[22:06]  * apachelogger thought he told Blizzz
[22:06] <apachelogger> perhaps at 4am ^^
[22:06] <Blizzz> -Blizzz: +apachelogger
[22:06] <apachelogger> random thoughts expressed at random times ftw
[22:06] <Blizzz> maybe i missed it
[22:06] <Blizzz> however, i will be there for sure
[22:07] <Blizzz> apachelogger: what is the tomahow team *whisper*
[22:08] <apachelogger> Blizzz: gettomahawk.com
[22:08] <Blizzz> i see
[22:09] <Blizzz> the video is even available in Germany
[22:09] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: I need to get back in the swing of things... "RL" has been reaking havok.
[22:10] <apachelogger> flipping real life *fist waving*
[22:10] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: did you get the job at canonical?
[22:10] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: I'm the #1 Alt.
[22:10] <apachelogger> cool
[22:10] <DarkwingDuck> So, unless they find someone better... But, Jono hasn't been able to find anyone.
[22:11] <Quintasan> brrr
[22:12] <Quintasan> Gotta go to bed.
[22:12]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[22:12] <Quintasan> Good night Ladies and Mentlegen
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: To clarify, this is the behavior with that option checked: http://i.imgur.com/8OpyV.png
[23:43] <JontheEchidna> with the option unchecked it'll just fail outright and not give you the option to continue, but there is no mode where it blindly accepts untrusted packages
[23:44] <JontheEchidna> The "allow but ask" setting is the default for APT itself
[23:47] <JontheEchidna> At any rate, your other bug is fixed; good catch!