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anadonhey, what's the old grub2 reinstall after windows link?00:29
charlie-tca!grub00:29
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:29
anadonboot-repair isn't findable--the repository can't be found.  error 40400:34
anadonhey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?01:12
anadonhello?01:18
anadonhey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?01:37
head_victimI've done a apt-get install gnome-shell but at the lightdm prompt everytime I try to log into gnome it gives me "unable to load session "gnome"" error box. Unity works perfectly but I wanted to see what the fuss about gnome shell was.05:15
Joymowhere did alpha 3 go, it looks like it was downloadable but removed ?07:15
Guest20271does oneiric still ship with gnome classic? and what will happen to it during upgrade?07:16
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dupondjehead_victim: you prolly missing some package :P08:10
dupondjeyou have gnome-session?08:11
allandeeok08:27
linuxfreakerHi08:27
allandeehi08:27
linuxfreakerI am here08:27
IdleOneallandee linuxfreaker thank you for moving here in the proper channel :)08:27
linuxfreakerGuys..I need help on Ubuntu 11.10 alpha with gcc08:27
IdleOnemuch appreciated08:27
linuxfreakerI installed gcc through apt-get install gcc and it got installed successfully08:28
allandeelinuxfreaker: so, the PATH environment variable -- it points among other things to /usr/bin for sure?08:28
allandee 08:28
allandeeand ls -l /usr/bin/gcc says?08:28
linuxfreakerBut when i am running /usr/bin/gcc it threw the error root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# gcc gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated.08:28
linuxfreakerroot@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# ls -l /usr/bin/gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2011-07-20 03:00 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.608:28
allandeethat                            is expected though, that only means that gcc is in fact in /usr/bin/gcc -- and that you didn't provide any input files08:29
linuxfreakermeans ?08:29
linuxfreakerokie08:29
allandeehow to you run the script?08:29
allandeethe vmware script?08:30
linuxfreakerBut why re-installing gcc even dint work for /usr/bin/gcc08:30
linuxfreakerI think we shud first fix this08:30
linuxfreakerVmware -tools script comes ater08:30
linuxfreakerafter08:30
allandee /usr/bin/gcc is there and working as expected for now08:30
linuxfreakerWhy /usr/bin/gcc threw the error08:30
allandeebecause you didn'08:31
allandeet provide input files ;)08:31
linuxfreakerohh..u mean the command needs input files08:31
allandeehow do you run the script?08:31
linuxfreakerohk fine08:31
linuxfreakerLet me tell u about vmware-tools then08:31
linuxfreakerAs you see http://pastebin.com/ChgLZC4M08:31
linuxfreakergenerally vmware-tools on Ubuntu needs compilations08:32
linuxfreakerand need gcc and kernel-header files08:32
allandeeI have comments to address that, but first:08:34
allandeethe last line in that pastebin is this:08:34
allandeeEnter the path to the kernel header files for the 3.0-3-server kernel? /lib64/modules/3.0-3-server/build/kernel08:34
linuxfreakerAllandee: Here is the complete Installing VMware Tools.  In which directory do you want to install the binary files? [/usr/bin]  What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc]  What is the directory that contains the init scripts? [/etc/init.d]  In which directory do you want to install the daemon files? [/usr/sbin]  In which directory do you want to install the library files? [/usr/lib/v08:38
linuxfreakerSorry08:38
linuxfreakerHere is the new pastebin : http://pastebin.com/ZAfpagF108:38
allandee checking08:39
linuxfreakerthnx08:40
allandeejust to make sure "The path "/lib64/modules/3.0-3-server/build/kernel" is not a valid path to the08:40
allandee3.0-3-server kernel headers." is the last line you see?08:40
linuxfreakeryes08:40
linuxfreakerDo u want more lines?08:41
allandeeno08:41
linuxfreakerAll it says after the step is WARNING: This program cannot compile any modules for the following reason(s)...  - This program could not find a valid path to the gcc binary.  Please ensure that the gcc binary is installed on this sytem.  - This program could not find a valid path to the kernel headers of the running kernel.  Please ensure that the header files for the running kernel are installed on this sytem.08:41
linuxfreakerThat is what it skips and goes ahead08:42
allandeewhat does "uname -a" say?08:42
linuxfreaker3.0-3-server #4-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 1 09:50:36 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:42
allandeedoes "ls -D /lib64" give a sane result?08:44
linuxfreakeryes08:45
linuxfreakerhttp://pastebin.com/myV5eDRE08:46
allandeehttp://pastebin.com/myV5eDRE08:47
allandeeooops08:47
allandeewhat do you have in your /lib64/modules?  do you have the stuff for 3.0.3 there?08:48
allandee(and if not, why would the script try to link to it?)08:49
linuxfreakerls 3.0.0-7-generic  3.0.0-7-server  3.0.0-7-virtual  3.0-3-server08:49
linuxfreakeryes08:50
linuxfreakerits there08:50
allandeebut no link from 3.0.3 to anything08:50
linuxfreakerhttp://pastebin.com/RPqTqCwe08:50
linuxfreakerno08:52
linuxfreakerroot@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# ls -la 3.0-3-server total 4208 drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 2011-08-04 04:37 . drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   4096 2011-08-03 07:19 .. lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     35 2011-07-01 09:43 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0-3-server08:53
allandeetry to apt-get install linux-headers-3.0.308:54
allandeebut08:54
allandeethey should be there hang on08:54
linuxfreakerlinux-headers-3.0.0-7 is already the newest version08:58
allandeeno, it looks like everything should be there, do you have linux-headers-3.0.3 installed?  (the obvious question last) ;)08:58
linuxfreakerlinux-headers-3.0-3-server is already the newest version.08:59
allandeeapt-cache search linux-headers-3.*08:59
allandee?08:59
allandeeany 3.0.3?08:59
linuxfreaker?09:01
linuxfreakerroot@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# apt-cache search linux-headers-3.* linux-headers-3.0.0-7 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.0.0 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-server - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-virtual - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0-3-server - Li09:02
linuxfreakerroot@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# apt-cache search linux-headers-3.* linux-headers-3.0.0-7 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.0.0 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-server - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-virtual - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0-3-server - Li09:02
linuxfreakerSorry09:02
linuxfreakerhttp://pastebin.com/bVGdgFar09:02
allandeeoops, I meant 3.*309:03
allandeebut:09:04
linuxfreakerok let me see09:04
allandeethe script is looking for the kernel header files in /lib64/modules/<version>-server/build/kernel09:04
linuxfreakerhttp://pastebin.com/uf9eyype09:04
linuxfreakeryes09:05
allandeeand that seems unorthodox09:05
linuxfreakerI did suppiled that but it dint work09:05
linuxfreakerwhy?09:05
allandeeand, I thought, maybe a new scheme with 3.009:05
allandeeright09:05
linuxfreakerI think Linux 3.0 has something to do here09:05
linuxfreakerYou guys dont wait for Linus Torvald to make it GA either09:06
linuxfreaker:)09:06
linuxfreakerVery Quick :)09:06
allandeehehe09:06
linuxfreakerBut I respect Ubuntu ..thats my fav distro09:06
linuxfreakerWill be out for another 20 mins for tea09:09
linuxfreakerthanx allendee for the support09:09
linuxfreakerwish if someone can try installing gcc on ubuntu alpha209:10
linuxfreakerI am installing a fresh copy again to see what is going wrong09:10
allandeeI've run dry short of stupid forcing, like "ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.3-64 /lib64/modules/3.0.3/server/build/kernel"09:11
allandeeyou can see where the linux-headers package puts the header-files with "dpkg -L <package-name>" after it's installed.  ln -s that directory to /lib64/modules/3.0.3-server/build/kernel -- that's the best I can do, cheesy as frack, but I can't wrap my head around how that script ends on that being the cool location to look for the headerfiles09:16
allandeeI tried making the script inherit the environment variables "CPATH", "C_INCLUDE_PATH" and "CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH", btw, and passing -- -I<path> that weirdly is interpreted, but not passed on to the compiler.09:22
linuxfreakeri m back09:28
linuxfreakerlinking dint work09:34
allandeeis there a different error, then?09:39
linuxfreakerI am going to try in fresh ubuntu09:41
allandeeok09:41
linuxfreakerapt-get install build-essentail getting fine09:41
linuxfreaker2 min to go09:41
allandeeI'm going to go out on a limb and say that you will still have no header files in "/lib64/modules/3.0.3/server/build/kernel" - but maybe that monster script decides to look elsewhere, idk09:42
linuxfreakerThe same erro allen09:44
linuxfreakerSeems like the vmware script is unable to find the gcc and kernel-header in fresh too09:45
linuxfreakerBut surprisngly it worked in Alpha 109:46
Machtinhummm.. i got a xonar dx and can't unmute the s/pdif, any ideas?09:52
Machtinalthough! in phonon i can test the speakers and they work. but movies and music (vlc and amarok) won't play09:53
Machtinsolved :D10:21
kavurtis kubuntu oneiric alpha available?10:24
Ian_CorneI'm really going crazy with this ctrl+tab hijacking11:08
Ian_Corneand there's no way i can disable it11:08
Ian_Cornechanged it in the ccsm unity plugin11:08
Ian_Cornebut it's still acts on ctrl+tab11:08
ephanI have a question about Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric, Daily Builds11:11
ephanI'd like to know if I can use Wifi Internet if I run a daily build of it live11:11
icerootephan: i would suggest if you have questions like that to not use a daily-build. instead run the stbale-release 11.0411:16
ephaniceroot, I need to use the daily build in order to build Unity11:17
ephanAnd I'm wondering if live, I can use the internet. When I used 11.04 Daily Builds, I could not11:17
icerootephan: try it11:18
Ian_CorneMy 0.02EUR, try it11:18
Ian_Cornedamn iceroot !11:18
icerootephan: depending on the wifi-chip and if it is supported11:18
Ian_Corneit should work11:18
icerootIan_Corne: just to slow .)11:18
Ian_Corne*should*11:18
ephaniceroot, maybe I should repose my question. I tried it, and I could only log in as guest, and to use internet I needed a guest password, which I didn't have because I never set up. Thanks11:19
icerootephan: i think we should start at another point. why do you need to build unity?11:19
ephaniceroot, I want to try the Bitesize bugs campaign11:20
icerootephan: there should be an info on the live-cd/download-page what are the logins11:21
ephanhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ This is where I downloaded it from, and I could not find any information on logins. Thanks11:23
icerootephan: google says user is "ubuntu" without a password11:31
sdimkovAt what time is alpha 3 coming out today ?12:38
sdimkovAt what time is alpha 3 coming out today ? ?13:00
om26ersooooooon13:04
vega-sdimkov: 17:29:37 ... approx.13:06
sdimkovvega-: I'm not sure if you're just kidding with me :)  What do you mean by that time? And do you refer to GMT time or something else?13:07
Picisdimkov: Like all Ubuntu releases there is no set time for it to be released.13:08
sdimkovPici: I see, thanks.13:08
vega-they never learn13:22
anadonHey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't working.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?13:32
BLZbubbais upstart part of the next ubuntu?  any chance of it going away in an upcoming release?13:35
BLZbubbai want to use ubuntu server but not until upstart is gone13:35
geserBLZbubba: yes, and I didn't hear of any plans to replace upstart13:37
geserthe transition cost from upstart to something else (like systemd) is too big for too little benefit13:37
PiciIf it were to go away, I wouldn't expect it until after 12.0413:39
anadonHey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't fixing Grub2.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?13:39
BLZbubbageser: upstart is bad enough that it would be worth it IMO14:39
* burner really wishes X with nvidia were working instead of this nouveau-not-work-so-good-with-my-dual-monitors driver :|14:45
BLZbubbaburner: i use nouveau with 2 monitors on nvidia and it has been pretty good14:49
BLZbubbawhat problems are you having?14:49
burnerthey mirror each other14:49
burnerand the second one is supposed to go 1920x1080, but it goes 1680x1050 from the top left14:50
burnerand i want to play heroes of newerth... i assume i need nvidia vs. nouveau for that14:50
gjlis alpha 3 still on track to be released today?15:06
fashunI am using alpha 3 downloaded from the daily build15:08
Ian_Corneburner: yes15:10
BLZbubbaburner: yeah for 3d games nouveau will not be your friend.  what's wrong with the nvidia driver?15:13
BLZbubbayou should be able to just load the package15:13
quzicome on where's that alpha 3.. How can we find out when it comes out ?15:16
Ian_Cornekeep tryin http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-315:17
Ian_Corne:p15:17
geserBLZbubba: there was a discussion in May 2011 about systemd, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-May/thread.html if you are interested15:19
Piciquzi: Why don't you just grab the daily iso if you're so eager?15:19
quziPici: not the same :P15:20
quzigeser: are you saying ubuntu will switch from upstart to systemd ?  I thought that ain't happening.. not after all the money spent on upstart15:22
quzi?15:22
geserquzi: no, it won't happen as far as I know but a user started a discussion in May if Ubuntu switches or not15:23
quzigeser: what's your oppinion on systemd VS upstart ?15:24
geserquzi: I don't know neither upstart nor systemd good enough to have an opinion about it15:27
burnerBLZbubba: the package being nvidia-current right?  I have it...  I've removed all nouveau.  I aptitude reinstalled it... Then I created an xorg.conf with sudo nvidia-xconfig, but I get no DM when I try.  If I remove xorg.conf, it goes back to nouveau or nv presumably15:27
genii-around!nomodeset15:28
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:28
burneri'll give that a shot... thanks15:29
genii-aroundburner: If you have a line like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nouveau.modeset=1" in /etc/default/grub for instance, the nouveau driver loads and the nvidia doesn't even if it's installed15:30
quzi!next15:36
BLZbubbaburner: you should try the nvidia config utility, and turn on twinview16:35
BLZbubbaiirc it is just nvidia-xconfig --twinview16:36
BLZbubbanvidia-something16:36
BLZbubbageser: daily iso?16:36
BLZbubbaquzi: upstart needs better tools, there are situations where it just stops with no messages on what went wrong - e.g. i had an nfs server in /etc/fstab that was down, and ubuntu server wouldn't boot and had no error message anywhere16:38
BLZbubbai would hate it less if it were more mature in that regard - e.g. if it were easy to make it write everything it does to a log file16:39
BLZbubbait is almost unusable in container environments e.g. openvz16:39
quziBLZbubba: I see what you mean. And seems like systemd is far more actively developed. Or at least a glance at their repos shows a clear difference16:42
quzido you think Ubuntu would consider replacing upstart? I mean that's the trend right now :D It's fedora, opensuse and others switching at the moment16:43
macogiven canonical makes upstart, i doubt it16:43
micahgquzi: that was tabled until after the LTS16:43
macoalso, ChromeOS uses upstart too, not everybody's switching away from upstart...just away from SysV Init16:44
yofelBLZbubba: nfs mount stopping the boot is actually mountall hanging with a plymouth prompt on what to do16:45
BLZbubbai understand RHEL 7 will drop upstart at least.  that is a positive step16:47
BLZbubbayofel: yeah that could be it, except my 10.04 servers don't show any kind of prompt when this happens16:47
BLZbubbait is a cool concept, once it matures it will be great16:48
BLZbubbamaybe if it had a boot method where it gives you a "yes/no" prompt for every possible service16:48
yofelhm, shouldn't happen. Try adding 'nobootwait' as mount option. Not documented anywhere I could see, but should help16:48
BLZbubbayofel: well the problem was that mountall just failed and so it didnt emit the event that the next step needed16:49
BLZbubbait wasn't waiting for anything, init just stopped initting16:49
yofelit didn't fail, is simply waited for user action - which never happened16:50
BLZbubbai'll try hosing my mythbuntu system tonight and see what happens.  it is 11.0416:50
quzino alpha 3 yet ?/17:26
h00kSo, I'm seeing my wireless card, broadcom fail.17:47
h00kI cannot connect to a wpa2 network, where should I report the bug against?17:47
h00khttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658769/17:48
h00kOh, printing moved to over there ->17:54
* h00k points to power button menu17:54
h00kprinting appears to be broken, 'lpd' keeps crashing18:01
h00kbut lpd doesn't appear to exist18:01
antiherosound has randomly stopped working18:19
antiheromy card shows up under lspci though18:19
jjgalvez__does anyone know if Oneiric will be friendlier within virtualbox? Natty really does not work very will within Virtualbox18:34
xxxjjgalvez__: what problems do you experince?18:36
jjgalvez__none specifically with Oneiric, (I've not tried it yet) but with natty there are several performance issues with it being run within virtualbox, I think they all have to do with compiz because it works a little better with unity-2d. Note the last version of ubuntu worked great in virtualbox even with composting turned on18:38
xxxoh sorry I didn't understand your question in first place :)  I thought you have problems with Natty  as VB host but you have as a guest. No clues here..18:40
jjgalvez__actually I've been using it both as a guest and a host :) I run Natty on my desktop and then have VB with another instance of natty in it. I like to keep a vm for playing with stuff, much easier to rebuild broken VM then totally hose my desktop18:45
dermasterhello18:54
dermastercan i get help18:54
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xxxhey where's the alpha 319:26
xxx?19:26
xxx4 is close to end19:26
xxxI mean 4th of aug.19:26
IAmNotThatGuyxxx, alpha 3 is the testing version 3. Beta is the final(stable) release19:27
IAmNotThatGuyit has some bugs19:28
xxxIAmNotThatGuy: And how is that relating to my question?  :)19:28
IAmNotThatGuyhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/19:28
antiherohelloo19:28
antiheroanything that would have broken envy24 module or something?19:29
IdleOnexxx: it doesn't. Alpha3 will be released when it is released, soonish.19:29
IAmNotThatGuyerm! wait. xxx sorry. I am about to bed. sleepy. sorry for the wrong reply19:29
* IAmNotThatGuy read that where as what :|19:29
xxxno worries :)19:29
xxxat least does anybody know where to check if it is released ?19:31
xxxit was supposed to be out today.19:31
xxxI'm only checking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/19:31
xxxoh19:32
xxxI just wrote it and they published it :D19:32
xxxhurrey19:32
antiheroHow do I make alsa re-detect my soundcards19:32
Picixxx: Its out when the email goes out.19:32
xxxon which ml ?19:32
Piciubuntu-announce or ubuntu-devel-announce, I forget which one19:33
antiheroHello?19:33
xxxPici: I think they're rleasing at as we speak. Checkout http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/           it is clearly different from    http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/19:34
PiciI know some issues with the xubuntu iso are still being worked out.  Hopefully that won't result in a re-spin of the other isos though.19:34
IdleOnePici: both does list I think19:40
IdleOnelists*19:40
IdleOneor I am signed up to both19:41
h00kThis is my wireless after trying to connect to a WPA2 wireless network: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658769/ Any protips as to where I should report this against19:44
antiheroHelp?19:44
antiheroIs anyone actually there?19:50
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Piciantihero: clearly19:55
Piciantihero: But if we don't know the answer to your question, we aren't all going to say that.19:55
DASDSDADShi19:58
antiherook19:59
antiheroHmm, it shows up in /proc/asound/cards, but not aplay-l20:00
antiherowhich is really odd. When I do alsa reload, a window from KDE comes up telling me the cards have been removed (?!)20:00
antiherowhich would make sense if it had found them in the first place20:00
antiherohttp://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=11582607bf4309b6537ff0f3f62a8037a8e3879220:09
antiherothis has information on my alsa problem20:09
antiheroYeah so my system is turning off my soundcards :S20:37
BUGabundoevening folks of the mighty land of the writing20:38
antiheroHey BUGabundo20:39
antiheroif you scroll up you can see me whining about broken sound20:40
charlie-tcaHello, BUGabundo20:40
charlie-tcano alpha3 for Xubuntu20:40
antiheroBUGabundo: Any idea why my kernel would be disabling my soundcards?20:40
BUGabundoantihero: no backlog20:43
BUGabundofeel free to PM me it, if I can help20:43
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xxxI want my Alpha 3! :D  not coming out today ?20:51
BUGabundostop whinning20:52
BUGabundoget a daily20:52
xxxit's what irc channels are for20:53
BUGabundo:P20:53
Ian_Cornehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/20:56
xxxIan-Corne: I've been checking this every 2 minuts, I guess they changed the title to alpha 3 few minutes ago :)20:58
xxxsomebody said we'll get email on either <ubuntu-announce>  or <ubuntu-devel-announce>  but that haven't happen yet20:59
BUGabundothis is funky21:07
BUGabundo$ pkill -9 chromium-browser21:07
BUGabundois not killing chromium :S21:07
Ian_CorneI just changed the 2 to 321:10
Ian_Cornein the url21:10
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coz_ hey all23:11
BUGabundohey coz_23:13
coz_BUGabundo,  hey guy ")23:13
pooliehi23:31
pooliei just upgraded to oneiric and now the delay from login to having my desktop up has got very long23:32
pooliesomething like 45s23:32
poolieon a machine where it was previously quite fast23:32
poolieis this a known problem?23:32
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alex_mayorgaanyone else with broken virtualbox?23:36

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