[00:29] hey, what's the old grub2 reinstall after windows link? [00:29] !grub [00:29] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [00:34] boot-repair isn't findable--the repository can't be found. error 404 [01:12] hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working. The usual reinstalling isn't working. Any idea how to get this to work? [01:18] hello? [01:37] hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working. The usual reinstalling isn't working. Any idea how to get this to work? [05:15] I've done a apt-get install gnome-shell but at the lightdm prompt everytime I try to log into gnome it gives me "unable to load session "gnome"" error box. Unity works perfectly but I wanted to see what the fuss about gnome shell was. [07:15] where did alpha 3 go, it looks like it was downloadable but removed ? [07:16] does oneiric still ship with gnome classic? and what will happen to it during upgrade? === Guest20271 is now known as vega- [08:10] head_victim: you prolly missing some package :P [08:11] you have gnome-session? [08:27] ok [08:27] Hi [08:27] hi [08:27] I am here [08:27] allandee linuxfreaker thank you for moving here in the proper channel :) [08:27] Guys..I need help on Ubuntu 11.10 alpha with gcc [08:27] much appreciated [08:28] I installed gcc through apt-get install gcc and it got installed successfully [08:28] linuxfreaker: so, the PATH environment variable -- it points among other things to /usr/bin for sure? [08:28] [08:28] and ls -l /usr/bin/gcc says? [08:28] But when i am running /usr/bin/gcc it threw the error root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# gcc gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated. [08:28] root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# ls -l /usr/bin/gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2011-07-20 03:00 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.6 [08:29] that is expected though, that only means that gcc is in fact in /usr/bin/gcc -- and that you didn't provide any input files [08:29] means ? [08:29] okie [08:29] how to you run the script? [08:30] the vmware script? [08:30] But why re-installing gcc even dint work for /usr/bin/gcc [08:30] I think we shud first fix this [08:30] Vmware -tools script comes ater [08:30] after [08:30] /usr/bin/gcc is there and working as expected for now [08:30] Why /usr/bin/gcc threw the error [08:31] because you didn' [08:31] t provide input files ;) [08:31] ohh..u mean the command needs input files [08:31] how do you run the script? [08:31] ohk fine [08:31] Let me tell u about vmware-tools then [08:31] As you see http://pastebin.com/ChgLZC4M [08:32] generally vmware-tools on Ubuntu needs compilations [08:32] and need gcc and kernel-header files [08:34] I have comments to address that, but first: [08:34] the last line in that pastebin is this: [08:34] Enter the path to the kernel header files for the 3.0-3-server kernel? /lib64/modules/3.0-3-server/build/kernel [08:38] Allandee: Here is the complete Installing VMware Tools. In which directory do you want to install the binary files? [/usr/bin] What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)? [/etc] What is the directory that contains the init scripts? [/etc/init.d] In which directory do you want to install the daemon files? [/usr/sbin] In which directory do you want to install the library files? [/usr/lib/v [08:38] Sorry [08:38] Here is the new pastebin : http://pastebin.com/ZAfpagF1 [08:39] checking [08:40] thnx [08:40] just to make sure "The path "/lib64/modules/3.0-3-server/build/kernel" is not a valid path to the [08:40] 3.0-3-server kernel headers." is the last line you see? [08:40] yes [08:41] Do u want more lines? [08:41] no [08:41] All it says after the step is WARNING: This program cannot compile any modules for the following reason(s)... - This program could not find a valid path to the gcc binary. Please ensure that the gcc binary is installed on this sytem. - This program could not find a valid path to the kernel headers of the running kernel. Please ensure that the header files for the running kernel are installed on this sytem. [08:42] That is what it skips and goes ahead [08:42] what does "uname -a" say? [08:42] 3.0-3-server #4-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 1 09:50:36 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [08:44] does "ls -D /lib64" give a sane result? [08:45] yes [08:46] http://pastebin.com/myV5eDRE [08:47] http://pastebin.com/myV5eDRE [08:47] ooops [08:48] what do you have in your /lib64/modules? do you have the stuff for 3.0.3 there? [08:49] (and if not, why would the script try to link to it?) [08:49] ls 3.0.0-7-generic 3.0.0-7-server 3.0.0-7-virtual 3.0-3-server [08:50] yes [08:50] its there [08:50] but no link from 3.0.3 to anything [08:50] http://pastebin.com/RPqTqCwe [08:52] no [08:53] root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# ls -la 3.0-3-server total 4208 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2011-08-04 04:37 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2011-08-03 07:19 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2011-07-01 09:43 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0-3-server [08:54] try to apt-get install linux-headers-3.0.3 [08:54] but [08:54] they should be there hang on [08:58] linux-headers-3.0.0-7 is already the newest version [08:58] no, it looks like everything should be there, do you have linux-headers-3.0.3 installed? (the obvious question last) ;) [08:59] linux-headers-3.0-3-server is already the newest version. [08:59] apt-cache search linux-headers-3.* [08:59] ? [08:59] any 3.0.3? [09:01] ? [09:02] root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# apt-cache search linux-headers-3.* linux-headers-3.0.0-7 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.0.0 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-server - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-virtual - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0-3-server - Li [09:02] root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:/lib64/modules# apt-cache search linux-headers-3.* linux-headers-3.0.0-7 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.0.0 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-server - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86_64 linux-headers-3.0.0-7-virtual - Linux kernel headers for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-3.0-3-server - Li [09:02] Sorry [09:02] http://pastebin.com/bVGdgFar [09:03] oops, I meant 3.*3 [09:04] but: [09:04] ok let me see [09:04] the script is looking for the kernel header files in /lib64/modules/-server/build/kernel [09:04] http://pastebin.com/uf9eyype [09:05] yes [09:05] and that seems unorthodox [09:05] I did suppiled that but it dint work [09:05] why? [09:05] and, I thought, maybe a new scheme with 3.0 [09:05] right [09:05] I think Linux 3.0 has something to do here [09:06] You guys dont wait for Linus Torvald to make it GA either [09:06] :) [09:06] Very Quick :) [09:06] hehe [09:06] But I respect Ubuntu ..thats my fav distro [09:09] Will be out for another 20 mins for tea [09:09] thanx allendee for the support [09:10] wish if someone can try installing gcc on ubuntu alpha2 [09:10] I am installing a fresh copy again to see what is going wrong [09:11] I've run dry short of stupid forcing, like "ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.3-64 /lib64/modules/3.0.3/server/build/kernel" [09:16] you can see where the linux-headers package puts the header-files with "dpkg -L " after it's installed. ln -s that directory to /lib64/modules/3.0.3-server/build/kernel -- that's the best I can do, cheesy as frack, but I can't wrap my head around how that script ends on that being the cool location to look for the headerfiles [09:22] I tried making the script inherit the environment variables "CPATH", "C_INCLUDE_PATH" and "CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH", btw, and passing -- -I that weirdly is interpreted, but not passed on to the compiler. [09:28] i m back [09:34] linking dint work [09:39] is there a different error, then? [09:41] I am going to try in fresh ubuntu [09:41] ok [09:41] apt-get install build-essentail getting fine [09:41] 2 min to go [09:42] I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you will still have no header files in "/lib64/modules/3.0.3/server/build/kernel" - but maybe that monster script decides to look elsewhere, idk [09:44] The same erro allen [09:45] Seems like the vmware script is unable to find the gcc and kernel-header in fresh too [09:46] But surprisngly it worked in Alpha 1 [09:52] hummm.. i got a xonar dx and can't unmute the s/pdif, any ideas? [09:53] although! in phonon i can test the speakers and they work. but movies and music (vlc and amarok) won't play [10:21] solved :D [10:24] is kubuntu oneiric alpha available? [11:08] I'm really going crazy with this ctrl+tab hijacking [11:08] and there's no way i can disable it [11:08] changed it in the ccsm unity plugin [11:08] but it's still acts on ctrl+tab [11:11] I have a question about Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric, Daily Builds [11:11] I'd like to know if I can use Wifi Internet if I run a daily build of it live [11:16] ephan: i would suggest if you have questions like that to not use a daily-build. instead run the stbale-release 11.04 [11:17] iceroot, I need to use the daily build in order to build Unity [11:17] And I'm wondering if live, I can use the internet. When I used 11.04 Daily Builds, I could not [11:18] ephan: try it [11:18] My 0.02EUR, try it [11:18] damn iceroot ! [11:18] ephan: depending on the wifi-chip and if it is supported [11:18] it should work [11:18] Ian_Corne: just to slow .) [11:18] *should* [11:19] iceroot, maybe I should repose my question. I tried it, and I could only log in as guest, and to use internet I needed a guest password, which I didn't have because I never set up. Thanks [11:19] ephan: i think we should start at another point. why do you need to build unity? [11:20] iceroot, I want to try the Bitesize bugs campaign [11:21] ephan: there should be an info on the live-cd/download-page what are the logins [11:23] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ This is where I downloaded it from, and I could not find any information on logins. Thanks [11:31] ephan: google says user is "ubuntu" without a password [12:38] At what time is alpha 3 coming out today ? [13:00] At what time is alpha 3 coming out today ? ? [13:04] sooooooon [13:06] sdimkov: 17:29:37 ... approx. [13:07] vega-: I'm not sure if you're just kidding with me :) What do you mean by that time? And do you refer to GMT time or something else? [13:08] sdimkov: Like all Ubuntu releases there is no set time for it to be released. [13:08] Pici: I see, thanks. [13:22] they never learn [13:32] Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk . boot-repair isn't working. Anyone know how I can boot my brick? [13:35] is upstart part of the next ubuntu? any chance of it going away in an upcoming release? [13:35] i want to use ubuntu server but not until upstart is gone [13:37] BLZbubba: yes, and I didn't hear of any plans to replace upstart [13:37] the transition cost from upstart to something else (like systemd) is too big for too little benefit [13:39] If it were to go away, I wouldn't expect it until after 12.04 [13:39] Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk . boot-repair isn't fixing Grub2. Anyone know how I can boot my brick? [14:39] geser: upstart is bad enough that it would be worth it IMO [14:45] * burner really wishes X with nvidia were working instead of this nouveau-not-work-so-good-with-my-dual-monitors driver :| [14:49] burner: i use nouveau with 2 monitors on nvidia and it has been pretty good [14:49] what problems are you having? [14:49] they mirror each other [14:50] and the second one is supposed to go 1920x1080, but it goes 1680x1050 from the top left [14:50] and i want to play heroes of newerth... i assume i need nvidia vs. nouveau for that [15:06] is alpha 3 still on track to be released today? [15:08] I am using alpha 3 downloaded from the daily build [15:10] burner: yes [15:13] burner: yeah for 3d games nouveau will not be your friend. what's wrong with the nvidia driver? [15:13] you should be able to just load the package [15:16] come on where's that alpha 3.. How can we find out when it comes out ? [15:17] keep tryin http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3 [15:17] :p [15:19] BLZbubba: there was a discussion in May 2011 about systemd, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-May/thread.html if you are interested [15:19] quzi: Why don't you just grab the daily iso if you're so eager? [15:20] Pici: not the same :P [15:22] geser: are you saying ubuntu will switch from upstart to systemd ? I thought that ain't happening.. not after all the money spent on upstart [15:22] ? [15:23] quzi: no, it won't happen as far as I know but a user started a discussion in May if Ubuntu switches or not [15:24] geser: what's your oppinion on systemd VS upstart ? [15:27] quzi: I don't know neither upstart nor systemd good enough to have an opinion about it [15:27] BLZbubba: the package being nvidia-current right? I have it... I've removed all nouveau. I aptitude reinstalled it... Then I created an xorg.conf with sudo nvidia-xconfig, but I get no DM when I try. If I remove xorg.conf, it goes back to nouveau or nv presumably [15:28] !nomodeset [15:28] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [15:29] i'll give that a shot... thanks [15:30] burner: If you have a line like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nouveau.modeset=1" in /etc/default/grub for instance, the nouveau driver loads and the nvidia doesn't even if it's installed [15:36] !next [16:35] burner: you should try the nvidia config utility, and turn on twinview [16:36] iirc it is just nvidia-xconfig --twinview [16:36] nvidia-something [16:36] geser: daily iso? [16:38] quzi: upstart needs better tools, there are situations where it just stops with no messages on what went wrong - e.g. i had an nfs server in /etc/fstab that was down, and ubuntu server wouldn't boot and had no error message anywhere [16:39] i would hate it less if it were more mature in that regard - e.g. if it were easy to make it write everything it does to a log file [16:39] it is almost unusable in container environments e.g. openvz [16:42] BLZbubba: I see what you mean. And seems like systemd is far more actively developed. Or at least a glance at their repos shows a clear difference [16:43] do you think Ubuntu would consider replacing upstart? I mean that's the trend right now :D It's fedora, opensuse and others switching at the moment [16:43] given canonical makes upstart, i doubt it [16:43] quzi: that was tabled until after the LTS [16:44] also, ChromeOS uses upstart too, not everybody's switching away from upstart...just away from SysV Init [16:45] BLZbubba: nfs mount stopping the boot is actually mountall hanging with a plymouth prompt on what to do [16:47] i understand RHEL 7 will drop upstart at least. that is a positive step [16:47] yofel: yeah that could be it, except my 10.04 servers don't show any kind of prompt when this happens [16:48] it is a cool concept, once it matures it will be great [16:48] maybe if it had a boot method where it gives you a "yes/no" prompt for every possible service [16:48] hm, shouldn't happen. Try adding 'nobootwait' as mount option. Not documented anywhere I could see, but should help [16:49] yofel: well the problem was that mountall just failed and so it didnt emit the event that the next step needed [16:49] it wasn't waiting for anything, init just stopped initting [16:50] it didn't fail, is simply waited for user action - which never happened [16:50] i'll try hosing my mythbuntu system tonight and see what happens. it is 11.04 [17:26] no alpha 3 yet ?/ [17:47] So, I'm seeing my wireless card, broadcom fail. [17:47] I cannot connect to a wpa2 network, where should I report the bug against? [17:48] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658769/ [17:54] Oh, printing moved to over there -> [17:54] * h00k points to power button menu [18:01] printing appears to be broken, 'lpd' keeps crashing [18:01] but lpd doesn't appear to exist [18:19] sound has randomly stopped working [18:19] my card shows up under lspci though [18:34] does anyone know if Oneiric will be friendlier within virtualbox? Natty really does not work very will within Virtualbox [18:36] jjgalvez__: what problems do you experince? [18:38] none specifically with Oneiric, (I've not tried it yet) but with natty there are several performance issues with it being run within virtualbox, I think they all have to do with compiz because it works a little better with unity-2d. Note the last version of ubuntu worked great in virtualbox even with composting turned on [18:40] oh sorry I didn't understand your question in first place :) I thought you have problems with Natty as VB host but you have as a guest. No clues here.. [18:45] actually I've been using it both as a guest and a host :) I run Natty on my desktop and then have VB with another instance of natty in it. I like to keep a vm for playing with stuff, much easier to rebuild broken VM then totally hose my desktop [18:54] hello [18:54] can i get help === om26er__ is now known as om26er [19:26] hey where's the alpha 3 [19:26] ? [19:26] 4 is close to end [19:26] I mean 4th of aug. [19:27] xxx, alpha 3 is the testing version 3. Beta is the final(stable) release [19:28] it has some bugs [19:28] IAmNotThatGuy: And how is that relating to my question? :) [19:28] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [19:28] helloo [19:29] anything that would have broken envy24 module or something? [19:29] xxx: it doesn't. Alpha3 will be released when it is released, soonish. [19:29] erm! wait. xxx sorry. I am about to bed. sleepy. sorry for the wrong reply [19:29] * IAmNotThatGuy read that where as what :| [19:29] no worries :) [19:31] at least does anybody know where to check if it is released ? [19:31] it was supposed to be out today. [19:31] I'm only checking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/ [19:32] oh [19:32] I just wrote it and they published it :D [19:32] hurrey [19:32] How do I make alsa re-detect my soundcards [19:32] xxx: Its out when the email goes out. [19:32] on which ml ? [19:33] ubuntu-announce or ubuntu-devel-announce, I forget which one [19:33] Hello? [19:34] Pici: I think they're rleasing at as we speak. Checkout http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/ it is clearly different from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [19:34] I know some issues with the xubuntu iso are still being worked out. Hopefully that won't result in a re-spin of the other isos though. [19:40] Pici: both does list I think [19:40] lists* [19:41] or I am signed up to both [19:44] This is my wireless after trying to connect to a WPA2 wireless network: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658769/ Any protips as to where I should report this against [19:44] Help? [19:50] Is anyone actually there? === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [19:55] antihero: clearly [19:55] antihero: But if we don't know the answer to your question, we aren't all going to say that. [19:58] hi [19:59] ok [20:00] Hmm, it shows up in /proc/asound/cards, but not aplay-l [20:00] which is really odd. When I do alsa reload, a window from KDE comes up telling me the cards have been removed (?!) [20:00] which would make sense if it had found them in the first place [20:09] http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=11582607bf4309b6537ff0f3f62a8037a8e38792 [20:09] this has information on my alsa problem [20:37] Yeah so my system is turning off my soundcards :S [20:38] evening folks of the mighty land of the writing [20:39] Hey BUGabundo [20:40] if you scroll up you can see me whining about broken sound [20:40] Hello, BUGabundo [20:40] no alpha3 for Xubuntu [20:40] BUGabundo: Any idea why my kernel would be disabling my soundcards? [20:43] antihero: no backlog [20:43] feel free to PM me it, if I can help === bambee_ is now known as bambee [20:51] I want my Alpha 3! :D not coming out today ? [20:52] stop whinning [20:52] get a daily [20:53] it's what irc channels are for [20:53] :P [20:56] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-3/ [20:58] Ian-Corne: I've been checking this every 2 minuts, I guess they changed the title to alpha 3 few minutes ago :) [20:59] somebody said we'll get email on either or but that haven't happen yet [21:07] this is funky [21:07] $ pkill -9 chromium-browser [21:07] is not killing chromium :S [21:10] I just changed the 2 to 3 [21:10] in the url === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:11] hey all [23:13] hey coz_ [23:13] BUGabundo, hey guy ") [23:31] hi [23:32] i just upgraded to oneiric and now the delay from login to having my desktop up has got very long [23:32] something like 45s [23:32] on a machine where it was previously quite fast [23:32] is this a known problem? === vDubG is now known as vDubG__Gone [23:36] anyone else with broken virtualbox?