[09:22] <ev> hm, there's still some delta between the wubildr from wubi itself and the one generated by grub-mkimage that's causing the latter to fail
[09:33] <ev> and grub.cfg isn't being generated in firstboot
[09:33] <ev> rubbish
[09:46] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r4793 pygi/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: Somewhat fix the dark sections of the UI. Still need to stop it from setting this CSS on every child, however.
[10:59] <bambee> hi, during an install using ubiquity-kde X is killed
[10:59] <bambee> see bug 820842
[10:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 820842 in ubiquity "System ran out of memory during installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820842
[13:01] <CIA-37> ubiquity: evand * r4794 pygi/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Bring back the wireless page.
[14:22] <bdmurray> ev: bug 743359 is the ubiquity apt lock bug
[14:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 743359 in ubiquity "Installer: LockFailedException: Failed to lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743359
[14:27] <ev> thanks
[14:29] <bdmurray> ev: Do you have any thoughts on bug 815432?  I think I saw a few more like it
[14:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 815432 in ubiquity "ubiquity does not see hard drive if dmraid array is degraded" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/815432
[14:44] <skaet> ev, do you have any thoughts on what's going on with the Xubuntu images?  charlie-tca can't get them working, but they seem fine to jibel.  We're trying to figure out if we can release the images or not, and what might be going on for such a difference in viewpoint.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/819624
[14:44] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 819624 in casper "casper doesn't configure autologin for lightdm properly" [High,Confirmed]
[14:47] <skaet> bdmurray, ^^ any help you can give triaging this to find root cause would be much appreciated.
[14:49] <bdmurray> skaet: is that the only issue he is having?  auto-login doesn't seem like a big deal to me for A3
[14:50] <skaet> bdmurray,  he can't get any of the images going,  and jibel is having no problems.   I'm hoping its some sort of configuration thing that's triggering the problems for him, that we can document.
[14:50] <charlie-tca> no, my install keeps failing
[14:52] <skaet> charlie-tca, are all the installs in a virtual environment?
[14:52] <charlie-tca> no, hardware.
[14:52] <charlie-tca> we do have stgraber looking at it too
[14:57] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: are you running your xubuntu live cd on the system now?
[14:57] <charlie-tca> yes
[15:00] <stgraber> ok, I know why lightdm fails for xubuntu
[15:01] <stgraber> skaet: I'd need another casper upload to fix it, is that something we want for alpha3?
[15:01] <skaet> stgraber, is it something we can document how to work around?
[15:02] <stgraber> we can document logging in as ubuntu/<no password>
[15:02]  * skaet nods
[15:03] <charlie-tca> and pick the second Xubuntu session, or it will fail to give the correct defaults
[15:03] <stgraber> the fix is really simple. Basically the problem is that /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf on xubuntu is a symlink
[15:03] <stgraber> so casper fails to override it as it can't follow it
[15:03] <stgraber> the fix is simply to remove the file first if it exists
[15:06] <skaet> go ahead and make the fix.  Its needed anyhow.   I'm not sure if there's enough time left for A3 builds, but we can try.   We can go ahead and release the existing image with that documented workaround (if charlie-tca agrees),   if we can't get the images rebuilt and tested in time.
[15:06] <charlie-tca> Do we really release the image and hope no user runs into the fails I have?
[15:07] <charlie-tca> I have two hardware systems failing to install from the desktop images
[15:07] <skaet> charlie-tca,  if you feel uncomfortable releasing the images with the documented workaround,  we'll hold them and hope everything lines up on getting a new set in time.
[15:08] <charlie-tca> I am uncomfortable with the installs. I have both 32bit and 64bit hardware that will not complete the installations.
[15:08] <skaet> If everything doesn't land in time,  I'll need to release the rest,  and Xubuntu can follow after.
[15:08] <charlie-tca> It is not the auto-login that worries so much as failed to install
[15:10] <stgraber> hmm, even if I fix casper, I then hit bug 806408
[15:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 806408 in lightdm "After xubuntu upgrade or installation, default session on greeter must be xubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806408
[15:11] <stgraber> I can workaround it too
[15:11] <skaet> charlie-tca,  is it both the desktop and alternates affected?  or just the desktop?
[15:11] <charlie-tca> desktop
[15:11] <charlie-tca> 32bit and 64bit
[15:11] <skaet> so you want to release the alternate image.
[15:11] <skaet> ?
[15:11] <charlie-tca> nope
[15:12] <charlie-tca> I won't release any for this milestone
[15:13] <skaet> charlie-tca, ok, its your call.
[15:14] <stgraber> skaet: ok. I have a fixed casper that I'll upload. I can workaround but 806408 so xubuntu autologin works in the livefs but that'll be a bit hackish and so probably not worth doing if we won't release anyway (hopefully we'll get a real fix by beta1)
[15:15] <stgraber> *bug 806408
[15:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 806408 in lightdm "After xubuntu upgrade or installation, default session on greeter must be xubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806408
[15:16] <skaet> stgraber,  sounds good.   Thanks!  :)
[16:10] <superm1> stgraber, could you maybe talk to robert ancell about moving autologin to it's own file, or maybe users.conf after a3?
[16:10] <superm1> i think that would avoid a lot of this mess, and be closer to how things were done with gdm and custom.conf
[16:15] <charlie-tca> maybe we could get bug 799754 fixed?
[16:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 799754 in lightdm "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799754
[16:30] <superm1> well yeah that's part of this whole thing too
[16:33] <superm1> right now there are problems with both the way it was done for mythbuntu as well as xubuntu because there is no decision on the 'right' way to do it, they both have shortcomings of their own
[16:35] <charlie-tca> exactly
[16:35] <charlie-tca> we have several bugs on file for getting lightdm to work, but they all got pushed aside