[00:08] lol wow, #mysql is batshit crazy :D [00:09] I went there to ask how to take a backup without having my mysql server slow to a crawl with mysqldump [00:11] they told me to setup a separate $500 server and read a document on performance analytics and security and also to have 20 minutes downtime every hour to take backups :D [00:15] better get right on that then ;) [00:15] indeed [00:15] shauno: it was even more funny when one guy changed his nick to "Aze1phur" and carried on trolling the guy who was saying all the dumb shit [00:15] and he didn't even notice it wasn't me [00:30] not the best time to run out of coffee :/ [01:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgClLSPmzP4 [04:51] hey any one with the knowledge of language selector in Ubuntu 11.04??? [05:19] morning all [05:19] Hey MooDoo.. [05:19] thought it was the only crazy fool up this early ;) [05:20] ya stuck in a problem frnd.. [05:21] MooDoo, what makes you think you're not ? [05:21] shauno: lol [05:22] trying & failing to sneak a quick nap in before everyone else gets in [05:23] hey guys answer my qution first dude .. [05:23] shauno: my laddo woke up at 5 am [05:23] !ask [05:23] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:23] :) [05:24] MooDoo, I'm already in the office. 5am isn't early :p [05:24] shauno: late shift or very early start? [05:24] i have already post the qution lubotu3....okay again here.... [05:24] early start [05:24] hey any one with the knowledge of language selector in Ubuntu 11.04??? [05:25] !ask | harry_ [05:25] harry_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:25] not me i'm afraid :) [05:25] MartijnVdS: already did that :D [05:25] ah oops [05:25] harry_: are you having a problem with it? [05:25] MooDoo: I blame the fact that it's early :) [05:25] yup... [05:26] harry_: What's the problem you're having with it? [05:27] oky its like when i change the langauge at the time of login its not changing in the regional Fromat in ubuntu 11.04 so the locales are not getting change with it.. [05:28] harry_: did you install the language pack first? [05:28] harry_: also.. "regional format"? in which programs? [05:28] harry_: what does "locale" say on the command line? (please use pastebin) [05:28] yes of-curse i did.... [05:29] harry_: just checking :) [05:29] regional fromates are there in Language selector in the settings of Ubuntu [05:29] and locale like... [05:30] ~$ locale [05:30] LANG=en_IN.UTF-8 [05:30] LANGUAGE=en_US:en [05:30] LC_CTYPE="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_NUMERIC="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_TIME="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_COLLATE="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_MONETARY="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] !pastebin | harry_ [05:30] harry_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [05:30] LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 [05:30] LC_PAPER="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_NAME="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_ADDRESS="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_TELEPHONE="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_MEASUREMENT="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_IN.UTF-8" [05:30] LC_ALL= [05:34] okay thanks man...here is the link [05:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/658435/ [05:43] hello [06:20] morning all [06:20] ali1234: tried a few dial strings, and yes it's the green and black cheapo dongle [06:20] hi [06:21] ali1234: tried the same dial string settings as network manager uses and that failed [06:21] what colour is the LED on it? [06:22] if it is green it means it is using GPRS/2G [06:22] which doesn't work on 3 [06:22] if it is blue it is using 3G [06:22] it flashes green on my desktop [06:22] and works [06:22] its a tricolour LED, Red/Green/Blue [06:23] * popey goes to work, will take it with me and test there [06:23] my o2 dongle i have been told also has a purple led in it but i've never seen it [06:24] maybe it's the other way around [06:25] ging, you're kidding right? [06:29] no [06:32] it doesn't mention it at all in the manual [06:33] but aprently it comes on if you set it to umts instead of hspda [07:22] good morning everyone. [07:22] o/ [07:22] o/ [07:31] hiya folks [07:52] morning [07:52] (again) [07:52] Morning all [08:06] morning [08:06] Hi AlanBell === root is now known as Guest17019 [08:19] I wish Ubuntu server was like cpanel, but not crap [08:20] AlanBell: http://www.thelmagazine.com/images/blogimages/2010/04/30/1272634254-the-wish8221-tee-509-full.jpg [08:23] AlanBell: virtualmin? [08:24] AlanBell: I don't think I'd care if it had a gtk based gui tbh :) [08:24] AlanBell: As long as it did what every other major OS does in terms of ldappy type things for office workgroups [08:25] LDAP shouldn't be as hard to set up as it is [08:25] both server AND client side [08:25] (fiddling with 10 config files and hoping it'll work)-- [08:27] AlanBell, I put the same thing in the Ubuntu Server questionnaire, it's my only issue with some of my old staff to getting them to use it [08:27] MartijnVdS, totally agree, having lot's of issues getting a working LDAP server myself :( [08:29] if you're on a home network, install zimbra free version and it will do the work for you :) [08:30] People use LDAP at home? [08:31] People use Linux at home? [08:31] I do, popey ;) [08:31] doesn't everyone?? [08:32] at home? I don't hate myself that much :p [08:32] you love bill more than you love yourself :D [08:32] * dwatkins notes his netbook at home is running at 60 degrees centigrade [08:33] shauno has an idols of jobs in the corner of his house [08:33] pft [08:33] they don't go in the corner [08:34] * popey tickles ali1234 [08:34] suggestions for making this dongle work welcome [08:34] well [08:34] popey: dongle? what kind? [08:34] how did you even get openwrt to recognise it? [08:34] mine has no usb drivers [08:35] popey: Donate one to mjg? [08:35] i followed a guide [08:36] one mo [08:36] Buenos dias! [08:36] opkg update [08:36] opkg install usbutils [08:36] opkg install kmod-usb-serial kmod-usb2 kmod-usb-uhci kmod-usb-ohci [08:36] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19d2:2000 ONDA Communication S.p.A. ZTE MF627/MF628/MF628+/MF636+ HSDPA/HSUPA [08:36] thats the device [08:36] it works fine on desktop/laptop [08:36] but the dialling bit fails on openwrt [08:36] oh [08:36] i didn't install usb-uhci [08:36] i knew i forgot something [08:37] opkg doesn't have them as deps cos every router needs a different one [08:38] maybe you just need to set a longer timeout [08:39] * popey tries this [08:40] boarded an empty bus during rush hour this morning which didn't stop at any intermediate stops until my destination. best taxi ever \o/ [08:40] light goes green when in my laptop but red in this router [08:40] wife got on train this morning. it decided not to stop at oxford, and kicked everyone out in reading. [08:40] red is bad [08:40] stuff like that almost makes me homesick [08:40] popey, 3g modem? does it need usb modeswitch? [08:41] it has that directhex [08:41] it switches from 19d2:2000 to 19d2:0031 [08:41] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19d2:2000 ONDA Communication S.p.A. ZTE MF627/MF628/MF628+/MF636+ HSDPA/HSUPA [08:41] this is the chat script i used to use to do this on white russian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658515/ [08:41] directhex: that was a paste from earlier [08:42] popey, firmware files? i needed firmware to use my laptop's 3g [08:42] directhex: There's a nice cafe in Reading town centre that does salady type nommy food in a box [08:42] daubers, great - but she needs to be in the office in oxford. [08:42] Hallo peoples :) [08:43] directhex: didnt know it needed firmware [08:43] directhex: Nobody needs that really :) [08:43] directhex: any idea where from / what it is? [08:43] snacks > office [08:43] i.e. can i grab it from /lib/firmware somewhere [08:44] popey, i'm not sure if it *does* need firmware, just offing suggestions [08:45] ah ok [08:45] it doesn't [08:46] i wonder if orange will do me a deal on mobile broadbean for my laptop [08:46] i use a Three sim right now, via PAYG [08:47] popey: did you unlock it? [08:48] popey: are you using the correct tty? [08:48] there's thee [08:48] you have to use the right one [08:50] you have three ports 0,1,2 [08:50] 1 and 2 accept at commands [08:50] i havent unlocked it [08:50] i must be using the right tty, the chat script partially works [08:50] i get responses [08:51] its just the connect that fails [08:51] but only one of them will emit ppp [08:51] that is expected if you use the wrong one [08:51] the ppp packets will start appearing on the other tty [08:51] hmph, i pay £10 for 1 gig of data on Three, with 1 month expiry, on PAYG. Orange charge £15 for that on a contract basis, with £5 off for existing customers. Net saving: 0. [08:51] ok [08:52] * popey reboots it [08:52] ooo [08:52] directhex: the same as what i pay except i can also make phone calls and they gave me a free phone too [08:52] green light [08:52] not red [08:52] green is wrong [08:52] it should be blue [08:52] Hehe [08:52] i never see blue [08:52] green means "initializing" [08:52] bah, red [08:52] i only see blue when i use a genuine three sim [08:52] ali1234, i'm talking data SIMs here, not phones [08:53] directhex: yes [08:53] why do i want to make phone calls from my laptop? [08:54] the question you should actually ask is "why am i paying twice when i could just use 1 sim for everything" [08:55] popey: actually red might be good [08:55] hah [08:55] anyway try the other tty [08:55] and try increasing the timeout as in the paste [08:55] now that's an epic plot twist [08:56] Damn you VirginMedia caching DNS. The rest of the world can see this new subdomain, wake up! [08:56] tried all 3 ttys [08:58] bigcalm, can you not just use 8.8.8.8 instead? [09:00] gord: I could I guess [09:00] What's Google's 2nd name server? [09:00] setting up google dns is part of my router setup process these days :) [09:00] 8.8.4.4 [09:01] That's the rub. Can't alter the DNS on the VM superhub [09:01] sounds anything but super... [09:01] I think it's meant to be sarcastic [09:02] is the htc desire S exactly the same shape/size as the desire? buying a phone case. [09:02] Any one recommend a cheapish router for dd-wrt, one popey got is a slight bit expensive for me :/ [09:02] ali1234: tried pretty much your paste [09:03] but it still fails to do anything after sending the ATD [09:03] expect (CONNECT) [09:03] then a delay then 'alarm' 'failed' [09:03] diplo: my dd-wrt flashed router is still for sale now popey doesn't need it [09:04] Wat model bigcalm and how much ? [09:04] Using sky,and the router supplied is a tad rubbish :( [09:05] Linksys WRT320N 40 quid (if you're going to oggcamp) [09:05] ali1234: what do you have in /etc/config/network for your ppp0? [09:05] routers are all rubbish. [09:05] nothing [09:05] white russian doesn't use /etc/config [09:05] ah [09:06] i fixed my routers 20kb/s download speed over wifi last night by turning off QoS =\ weird stuff [09:06] diplo: Oh, if you want to replace your ADSL modem/router, I also have a Netgear DG834N (no idea if it will take dd-wrt though) [09:08] * apw idly notes that the loco wiki says the next meeting is on the 23rd of july [09:10] aquarius: now that you have your stuff back, have you tried the network ports on the router? [09:10] bigcalm, not yet, although I'm gonna [09:10] K [09:11] Doesnt look like the DG is supported bigcalm, will have a think about the other one thanks [09:14] BAH! [09:14] gcom -d /dev/ttyUSB* gives SIM ERROR [09:14] btu this works on my laptop [09:15] popey: SIM ERROR means you need to enter a PIN maybe? [09:15] network manager shows no PIN [09:15] what would the PIN be? [09:15] popey: or maybe the USB port on the device doesn't provide enough juice? [09:15] popey: 0000? 1234? whatever the PIN on the SIM is [09:16] popey: stick it in a phone and find out :) [09:16] how did you get it to work on ubuntu? [09:16] i get exactly the same as on openwrt: plug it in, get three tty, nothing else happens [09:20] on ubuntu i just used the Network Manager wizard [09:21] it asks what country, network and thats it [09:22] NM is nice for 3g [09:23] yeah but how do i get to the wizard? [09:23] plug dongle in, wait, it shows up in nm [09:24] no, it doesn't [09:24] as a new device, click it the wizard starts, well, does here [09:24] the other option is nm -> edit connections -> mobile broadband [09:24] yeah there's nothing in there [09:24] yeah, it only appears in there after you run the wizard [09:24] or if you manually add new device [09:24] your apn should be "3internet" according to this [09:24] not "three.co.uk" [09:24] yup [09:24] tried both [09:25] Aloha [09:26] oh, look at that [09:26] it woks [09:26] now the light is flashing blue [09:26] i have an ip and everything [09:26] heh [09:26] so, you must use ttyUSB2 [09:27] you must manually write gprs config in /etc/ppp/peers [09:27] then you must write connect and disconnect scripts [09:27] and then it works [09:27] (on ubuntu) [09:27] ttyUSB1 didn't work... it got to dialing then just never connected [09:28] interesting that the sim card still works [09:28] i haven't touched this thing since i bought it [09:28] heh [09:30] oh and my apn "internet" [09:31] ok, identical pppd config works on openwrt in an identical manner [09:31] and you would expect really [09:32] bah [09:32] what am I doing wrong ☹ [09:32] what version of openwrt are you using? [09:32] bleeding edge [09:32] oh [09:32] well that's your first mistake [09:32] lol [09:32] openwrt trunk won't even boot on my hardware [09:33] r27832 [09:33] unless you have some router that is only supported in trunk, use backfire [09:34] i think i do [09:34] the 3700v2 apparently only works on very recent [09:36] http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3295032/nhs-fears-multibillion-pound-npfit-legal-fight-with-bt-csc-and-fujitsu/ and you thought public sector IT contracts couldn't be worse [09:37] ttyusb2 is less useful than 1, i get no responses at all [09:37] reboot the modem [09:38] i did [09:38] this is probbly why we have battleships running on nt4. cheaper to build new ships, than to tender a software contract [09:38] it tends to crash if you attempt to ppp on usb1 [09:41] popey: this is my full config http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/gprs.tar.gz [09:43] it doesnt seem to like it if I specify a pincode 0000 or 1234, "Failed to set the PIN code" [09:43] now I'm getting zero response from the chat script [09:44] so put the sim in a phone [09:44] i dont have a phone that will take a conventional sim ☺ [09:45] Well, if you will use an iPhone :P [09:45] derp [09:45] :D [09:45] i see on openwrt doc which says it _must_ have a pin [09:46] well that's not true at all [09:46] mine doesn't have a pin and it works fine [09:46] and i dont specify a pin on ubuntu [09:46] i suggest you do this [09:46] losing the will to live with this [09:46] take my gprs config ^ [09:46] put it on ubuntu and see if it works [09:46] without any NM rubbish [09:47] where does that go? [09:47] in /etc/ppp ? [09:47] /etc/ppp/peers [09:47] ok [09:47] ten pppd call gprs [09:47] as root [09:47] probably [09:47] ok [09:48] if it works on ubuntu it should work on openwrt too [09:48] if it doesn't work on ubuntu then there's something different about your dongle, probably because it isn't unlocked [09:49] if it works on ubuntu and not openwrt then the problem is you are using trunk, or it just don't work right on your router [09:49] also if it doesn't work on ubuntu it can be your sim card [09:49] ok, config copied [09:49] i will try using my other sim... [09:50] when you use ubuntu and it "works" what does the led do? [09:50] that script works [09:50] flashy green light [09:50] NO green is wrong [09:51] it should be blue [09:51] mine is blue [09:51] well, i have a 10. ip from it [09:51] ok its working then [09:51] ok... i put in my tmo sim [09:52] i got a red light [09:52] and then i connected and i got a red flashy light [09:52] ah [09:52] i think the unlocked firmware has different colour leds [09:52] ah [09:52] makes sense [09:52] anyway, flashing is always good [09:52] this is blinking away [09:52] :D [09:53] ok, so we've established one fact. Flashing is _good_ [09:53] yeah because normally on three, you get green led = 3g connection [09:53] cos the whole thing is green and black after all [09:53] but that's on three's locked firmware [09:53] on the unlocked one, 3g = blue led [09:53] anyway that is irrelevant [09:54] so, now copy those files onto the openwrt, in the exact same place, and do the exact same thing [09:55] hmmm [09:55] ok [09:55] hmm interesting, on openwrt my tmo sim gives a blue led [09:55] do i need to remove ppp0 from /etc/config/network ? [09:56] and it fails to connect [09:56] no, i shouldn't think so [09:57] ok, second attempt and it worked [09:58] i'm going to put that down to flaky signal [09:59] hmm, if I plug the modem in, its going to try to dial automatically [09:59] in what? [09:59] in to openwrt? [09:59] openwrt [09:59] yeah [09:59] why would it do that? [09:59] it auto connects [09:59] well, tries [09:59] mine doesn't [09:59] so I'll remove ppp0 from /etc/config/network then [09:59] so it doesnt [09:59] if you insist :) [09:59] haha [10:00] right, plugged in [10:00] red light [10:00] light off [10:00] popey: Isn't there an option in that file to not autoconnect? [10:00] red light again [10:00] green light [10:01] pppd call gprs does nothing [10:01] set permissions [10:01] on the chat scripts [10:01] they have to be executable [10:01] ahh [10:02] ok, pppd call gprs just sits there then returns [10:02] no chatter [10:02] yeah the openwrt one doesn't do debug [10:02] it should never return though [10:02] also, light off = attempting to dial [10:02] so you failed to disable that [10:02] and it's probably what is messing it up [10:03] also another thing, i think the reason mine doesn't trigger auto dialing is because when i plug it in, it defaults to modem mode [10:03] i don't need any of the modeswitch nonsense [10:03] script /etc/ppp/peers/gprs-connect-chat finished status = 0x3 [10:03] there's an AT command which sets the default mode [10:03] morning all [10:03] connect script failed [10:03] hey MooDoo I'm up too now :D [10:04] so [10:04] openwrt claims that the device must have a pin? [10:04] so maybe their autodialler *always* tries to send a pin [10:04] and that messes it up [10:04] the autodialler didnt kick in [10:04] it did [10:04] the light went out [10:05] no that was usbmodeswitch [10:05] hmm [10:06] well, i dunno [10:06] all i can suggest is flashing it with the unlocked firmware [10:06]