[12:25] I installed xfce on my netbook last night and the Applications Menu is empty when I click on it, but there's plenty there when I bring up the menu editor [12:40] Nivex: the right-click one? or both? [12:40] is this in 11.10? [12:41] the app menu in the panel. 11.04 [12:41] interesting [12:42] did you instal XFCE or xubuntu-desktop? [12:42] xfce4 and a few other choice packages [12:43] I thought maybe it was the configs I imported, so I backed up ~/.config/xfce4 and got it out of the way. Panels all snapped back to defaults but the apps menu was still shot :( [12:45] who knows what customizations happen though [12:45] to make xubuntu [12:45] i would think you could get a fairly generic functional XFCE though... [12:45] odd... I picked the xubuntu session instead of the xfce session this time (first time I saw that in the login) and the apps menu is there [12:46] If I can get things tweaked where I want them I might pull GNOME off this thing entirely [12:46] thats what we are doing with ubuntustudio [12:46] the xubuntu team is quite active too [12:50] also trying to get compiz to work, not because I need all the fancy effect, but because the screen updates are smoother with acceleration [12:50] but xfce and compiz aren't as tightly integrated as under gnome [12:53] yep, definitely the difference between "Xfce session" and "Xubuntu session" for getting the applications menu to work. Very strange. [12:53] not sure what I installed where [12:59] oh charming. running compiz, I hit Alt+Space to bring up the window context menu and it crashes [13:00] lol [13:08] I think I'll give up on compiz for now. found the xfce settings editor (omg hax!) and turned on compositing. Seems to work OK.