[00:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> this is why I dont remmeber ever command line or short cut key there are so many to remember!
[00:00] <IT> cheat sheet :)
[00:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> lol
[00:00] <IT> it's not really  a cheat sheet
[00:00] <IT> but it help
[00:00] <IT> s
[00:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> good idea
[00:01] <dan__> hello i need help with  formating???
[00:01] <ikonia> dan__: what's up ?
[00:01] <dan__> i am trieng to format a 16 g micro sd and it says it is a read only file system any ideas please?
[00:01] <exutux> yagoo: I'm coming from old linux school :D
[00:02] <ikonia> dan__: how are you trying to format it ?
[00:02] <Guest37099> test
[00:02] <ikonia> Guest37099: we can see you
[00:02] <Guest37099> thanks
[00:03] <Guest37099> I was just trying out irssi
[00:03] <dan__> i am going to system then disk utility then unmount the file system then i try to format it and it says error file system is read only!!
[00:03] <IT> XChat is a very nice client
[00:03] <yagoo> dan__, is the 16g micro vfat or ntfs?
[00:03] <ikonia> dan__: this may sound silly, but does it have a read/write switch on it, some do ?
[00:04] <d784> can i burn iso in a dvd and play in a dvd player?
[00:04] <Kanzu5665> hey IT, I'm using xchat in both windows and ubuntu. I was wondering, how do you identify on connect?
[00:04] <yagoo> dan__, vfat(i mean fat32)
[00:04] <ikonia> dan__: could you also pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[00:04] <d784> or do i need to convert the iso?
[00:04] <dan__> i right click it and try to change the permissions and it says permissions not recognized
[00:04] <yagoo> d784, you need a dvd-burner to burn an optical disc.. dvd-players can't do burning
[00:04] <ikonia> dan__: permissions are a different thing
[00:04] <d784> i know dat
[00:04] <ikonia> dan__: what file system are you trying to put on it
[00:04] <d784> i have a dvd burner
[00:05] <yagoo> d784, what u using, mac/windows currently?
[00:05] <d784> ubuntu
[00:05] <yagoo> d784, define "dvd player"
[00:06] <th0r> d784: if it is an iso of a video dvd then all you need to do is burn it to a dvd. Brasero can  burn an iso to a dvd
[00:06] <szal> yagoo: read again
[00:06] <dan__> ha ha it does have a lock switch wow i wondered what that was thank you so much!!!!!
[00:06] <d784> not iso my bad
[00:06] <ikonia> dan__: sometimes the obvious stuff is easy to miss
[00:07] <d784> like a avi movie
[00:07] <yagoo> dan__, i wouldn't format it .. read any precautions especially with new sd tech.. just in case..
[00:07] <altice> d784: the .avi movie will need to be converted first. Either to DVD or SVCD or VCD format
[00:07] <ikonia> yagoo: what are you talking about, it's fine for him to put a new file system on it
[00:07] <d784> right,what program are there for ubuntu?
[00:07] <dan__> oh ok  thankx for all the usefull advice!!! :)
[00:08] <ikonia> dan__: there is no problem with you putting a new file system on it, so don't worry
[00:08] <yagoo> d784, if you add/modify partition table with it.. just take it as an experiment if your camcorder or whatever that uses it will still be able to read it..
[00:08] <dan__> yes but i think it is corrupt
[00:09] <ikonia> yagoo: what are you talking about partition table on a CD ?
[00:09] <d784> wat you talking about?
[00:09] <d784> lol
[00:09] <_Neytiri_> how do i install updates for my system from the command line?
[00:09] <yagoo> dan__, if u think it's corrupt then run a disk checker against it.. like verify the fat32 filesystem..
[00:09] <d784> sudo apt-get update
[00:09] <ikonia> _Neytiri_: sudo apt-get update to get the current versions, then apt-get upgrade to update the packages
[00:10] <dan__> k
[00:10] <_Neytiri_> thanks
[00:10] <altice> d784: you should be able to use ffmpeg via cmd line to convert to DVD
[00:10] <ikonia> dan__: what file system is currently on it ?
[00:10] <altice> d784: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.mandriva/browse_thread/thread/9ccbb3d78d144046?pli=1
[00:10] <yagoo> dan__, u sure u werent trying to write to it with teh read-only lock?
[00:10] <ikonia> yagoo: he's just said he was
[00:10] <altice> d784: try a few google searches, there are a lot of options for video conversion. And some windows versions work in wine
[00:10] <dan__> yes i was!!!
[00:10] <yagoo> d784, (u think it was corrupt in the camcord/whatever hardware)..
[00:10] <yagoo> ?
[00:11] <yagoo> ok then..
[00:11] <yagoo> dan__, that's not an issue...
[00:11] <dan__> yes the ds that it was in
[00:11] <dan__> i had it in a ds and it keeps freezing on me
[00:11] <yagoo> dan__, i believe you have a camcorder or what do you have for this sd?
[00:11] <ikonia> yagoo: you are confusing dan__ and d784
[00:13] <Doubleplus> Hai, is anyone here?
[00:13] <th0r> d784: I believe devede will convert avi's to dvd so you can watch them on a dvd player
[00:13] <allandee_> hi, I just installed Natty, switching applications is kind of slow.  nvidia geforce gtx460, nvidia drivers installed, i3-box, 8gb ram
[00:13] <Doubleplus> that answers that question
[00:13] <ikonia> 1400+ people are
[00:13] <allandee_> any tips?
[00:13] <allandee_> compositing_manager is off
[00:13] <yagoo> allandee_, 8 gb of ram.. that system should be flying
[00:13] <AndroidLoverInSF> in unity, how can you put apps on the GUI so that you can run them quickly?  in gnome, you just add them to the top panel, then from any app. just a single click, and start the app.  so how do something similar in unity so that you can start app very quickly, easily. is that possible?
[00:13] <yagoo> !nvidia
[00:14] <Nubi1Kenobi> Need some help with Ubuntu......still has the traingin wheels on...
[00:14] <IT> well, g2g, very cool channel :)
[00:14] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: just explain the problem your having or ask a question
[00:14] <allandee_> yagoo: yea, it is in general, but app switching is slow.  like, less than a second, but more than half a second
[00:14] <yagoo> allandee_, you're trying compiz?
[00:14] <Doubleplus> Im completely new to ubuntu, and Im trying to get my cisco AM10 working, I found a forum page that solved it, but I cant make heads or tails about what they are saying
[00:14] <allandee_> yagoo; straight up install
[00:15] <allandee_> yagoo: no customizations yet
[00:15] <allandee_> yagoo; just checked that composition_manager of metacity is off, as per advice after googling
[00:15] <Nubi1Kenobi> Basically, a buddy of mine set this up........2 HDD...500gb drive win partition ubuntu partition and a data partition....got another hdd for storing images
[00:15] <yagoo> allandee_, make sure you're using the best video driver.. see the url link ubottu gave above
[00:15] <yagoo> there's also specifics for compiz..
[00:16] <Nubi1Kenobi> Ii can get partimage to load, but can not get the image to save on the image hdd
[00:16] <yagoo> let me know how it goes..
[00:16] <yagoo> !compiz
[00:16] <allandee_> ii  nvidia-current                        270.41.06-0ubuntu1                         NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[00:16] <Doubleplus> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=4882#4882 I have the file downloaded, but I dont know what to do with it....
[00:16] <Nubi1Kenobi> aslo he has gnome kde...ect ect ect set up dont know how to switch
[00:17] <yagoo> allandee_, grep -i radeon /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:17] <altice> Doubleplus: have you ever had to compile a program?
[00:17] <lubuntu20dash> Hello, was that command to check any errors with my video card in terminal mode?
[00:17] <Doubleplus> no :/
[00:17] <altice> That's what they're referring to
[00:17] <szal> ii  nvidia-current                       280.13-0ubuntu1~natty~xup1                 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[00:17] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, you mean X log errors? check the X log file
[00:17] <allandee_> yagoo; turns out empty, probably because I have an nVidia card ;)
[00:17] <induz> where can I find fstab file
[00:18] <allandee_> [    11.385] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  270.41.06  Mon Apr 18 15:11:28 PDT 2011
[00:18] <altice> induz: type this in the command line ->   "locate fstab"
[00:18] <yagoo> allandee_, try grepping nvidia..
[00:18] <ikonia> induz: why do you want it ?
[00:18] <ikonia> induz: you shouldn't need that to create a CD
[00:18] <ikonia> induz: why don't you show me the guide you are trying to use
[00:18] <allandee_> (just did,  270.41.06  Mon Apr 18 15:11:28 PDT 2011)
[00:18]  * yagoo whereis fstab
[00:18] <allandee_> /etc/fstab
[00:19] <yagoo> "whereis fstab" shows cool locations
[00:19] <yagoo> only if its in the manpage database
[00:19] <ikonia> yagoo: it has nothing to do with manpages
[00:19] <induz> ikonia https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[00:19] <yagoo> allandee_, so it must be using nvidia driver
[00:20] <ikonia> induz: virtualbox ? I thought you where trying to build a USB boot disk ?
[00:20] <yagoo> ikonia, type "man whereis".
[00:20] <ikonia> yagoo: yes, I know what it is
[00:20] <induz> i was trying to make a USB yes
[00:20] <allandee_> yagoo: yes, which is good since I have an nVidia GeForce GTX460.  it's the latest driver I can install via apt-get
[00:20] <ikonia> induz: ok, so why are you looking at a virtualbox guide
[00:20] <allandee_> or synaptic
[00:20] <yagoo> ikonia, paste the first description line here
[00:20] <ikonia> yagoo: I don't need to paste anything
[00:20] <yagoo> it says " manual pages "
[00:20] <induz> to make the live ubuntu
[00:21] <lubuntu20dash> "(09:17:41 PM) yagoo: lubuntu20dash, you mean X log errors? check the X log file",  yagoo where is that file?
[00:21] <ikonia> yagoo: it also says "binary" which is nothing to do with the man page database
[00:21] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, ..
[00:21] <ikonia> induz: that's not the guide you where suggested to use
[00:21] <ikonia> induz: that guide is for virtualbox
[00:21] <Guest13668> help  is here a free download for Ubuntu  like photo shop
[00:21] <szal> lubuntu20dash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.old)
[00:21] <allandee_> is it not a common complaing that Unity switches between windowed apps slowly, then?
[00:21] <allandee_> complaint*
[00:21] <ikonia> Guest13668: gimp is the linux equivilent of photoshop
[00:22] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, that's in /var/log
[00:22] <ikonia> induz: is there a reason you're not using the correct guide ?
[00:22] <Guest13668> ikonia:  can i make texterpack for minecraft  useing it
[00:23] <induz> ikonia, i used the download from UNETbootin and downloaded the Ubuntu iso
[00:23] <ikonia> Guest13668: no idea
[00:23] <ikonia> induz: please try to answer the question I asked
[00:23] <ikonia> induz: is there a reason you're not using the correct guide (you've been given it multiple times)
[00:23] <lubuntu20dash> yagoo, I just installed a new driver, and I want to see just the video card related errors
[00:24] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, to use a new video card driver you need to restart X
[00:24] <lubuntu20dash> I did
[00:24] <induz> what is correct guide
[00:24] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, see if the X log mentions its using it
[00:24] <lubuntu20dash> I am using it, and the gui didnt crash
[00:24] <induz> after i close my session all goes off
[00:25] <yagoo> induz, guide for what?
[00:25] <lubuntu20dash> the log mentions using it, but I want to see if I have any errors
[00:25] <ikonia> induz: would you like the guide url again ?
[00:25] <ikonia> induz: make a note of the URL's
[00:25] <ikonia> !install | induz
[00:25] <anadon> hey, what's the old grub2 reinstall after windows link?
[00:25] <induz> I am trying to make a usb ubuntu
[00:25] <yagoo> induz, for using unetbootin?
[00:26] <allandee_> lubuntu20dash: grep -i err /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:26] <allandee_> maybe?
[00:26] <yagoo> induz, it may not always work perfect.. there's also an alternative .exe if ur using windows.. i checked with 10.x ubuntu and it worked with one of the usb builders i forget which one ..
[00:26] <allandee_> yagoo: I take it it's not a common problem that Unity switches between windowed apps slowly, then?
[00:27] <lubuntu20dash> I saw Xorg.0.log, it doesnt seem to show any NVIDIA errors, but I want to use a terminal command to be sure
[00:27] <yagoo> induz, what do u use currently?
[00:27] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, does it say it's using the nvidia driver?
[00:27] <lubuntu20dash> yes is using it
[00:28]  * lubuntu20dash wants a terminal comand to link any nvidia video card errors, if there is any
[00:28] <allandee_> lubuntu20dash: unless you have some wonky config in /etc/rsyslog.d/  -- then /var/log/Xorg.0.log should contain everything the X-server encounters
[00:28] <jtannenbaum> if I have an external hard drive (WD, with all that SmartDrive crud on it) that I want to use on both ubuntu and windows (and possibly mac) computers, what should I format it to?
[00:28] <jtannenbaum> NTFS, ext3, etc
[00:28] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, errors of loaded video drivers will show up under dmesg.. "demsg<enter>"
[00:29] <allandee_> lubuntu20dash: and in that case, grep -i err /var/log/Xorg.0.log should display any that are there
[00:29] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, scratch that.. I meant "dmesg<enter>"
[00:29] <simpla> does anyone know much about ttys and pts's?  I hire a vm and all is good up til i did an apt-get update then upgrade via ssh (don't have physcial access)..  it hangs, and have figured out its asking a question (ie to keep local or maintainers version of config file) but not on pts/0 (ssh session), rather on tty8..  What should I be looking for to configure this?  Searched, but not having much luck finding where or what i should be changi
[00:29] <simpla> ng.
[00:29] <ikonia> yagoo: what is dmesg going to show him in this situation ?
[00:29] <lubuntu20dash> yagoo, as I said the gui did not crash. I didn't get a transparent picture stuck in the monitor after using flash. So far all seems good. But I really want to test the card to be sure I wont have any problems.
[00:29] <yagoo> simpla, upgrading and relying via ssh remote is not a good idea..
[00:29] <Guest82320> When I click on my home folder, it sits without doing anything for at least 15 seconds.  The home folder them comes up with this launch error: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[00:30] <yagoo> simpla, you're stuck in the mud.. maybe ssh is closed permanently..
[00:30] <simpla> yeah I know yagoo but its a hired server, and only have ssh access..
[00:30] <allandee_> simpla: are you doing a straight up ssh into the server, or some wonky tunneling?
[00:30] <yagoo> simpla, so call up your company host provider to do a reset or if you had a "kvm" remote feature that would be the best..
[00:31] <simpla> i can log in via ssh always.  no issue there, just during upgrades, the ncurses screen get displayed on tty8 instead of my pts0 ssh session
[00:31] <simpla> straight ssh, i did change the port from 22, to another port.  only thing different
[00:31] <lubuntu20dash>  yagoo, here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658326/
[00:31] <allandee_> simpla: the question to ask is rather to which stream/file-handle apt-get is getting interactive i/o from
[00:31] <allandee_> simpla: hm
[00:32] <yagoo> simpla, i wouldn't do that upgrade via ssh.. especially on a provider that charges to do a reset.. as I said the best service is to check if a kvm-feature is supported with your provider..
[00:32] <yagoo> (kvm remote over tcp/ip)
[00:32] <allandee_> simpla: there is a switch to instruct apt-get to avoid interactive prompts, let me check
[00:32] <simpla> Is that a config setting allandee_ ?  apt starts on pts until it hits ncurses type questions about config files
[00:32] <allandee_> apt-get -y
[00:33] <DasEi> simpla: or least have few other possibilities,aca vnc or webmin, teamviewer, cas you loose ssh
[00:33] <DasEi> case*
[00:33] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, you're getting video issues with compiz still?
[00:33] <induz> yagoo,  i am in ubuntu
[00:33] <induz> and oignin circle
[00:33] <induz> going
[00:34] <lubuntu20dash> yagoo, did you saw any video card errors in my pastebin?
[00:34] <allandee_> yagoo: that'd be me, I'm not sure compiz is the culprit though
[00:34] <ikonia> induz: if you follow the guide ubottu gave you (ask questions if you get stuck) you should be fine
[00:34] <simpla> does that -y apply to dpkg?  Need to do a dpkg --configure -a now, but still does the ncurses thing during that on tty8
[00:34] <yagoo> induz, what method did u try other than unetbootin?
[00:34] <lubuntu20dash> yagoo, so far I am not having any problems, but I havent tried any 3D game yet
[00:34] <allandee_> simpla: hang on
[00:35] <yagoo> lubuntu20dash, well i did notice this "hda_intel: Disable MSI for Nvidia chipset" .. i don't think that's a big issue
[00:35] <lubuntu20dash> yagoo, I will try playing supertux2 and see what happens
[00:36] <ikonia> yagoo: hda_intel is "high def audio, intel"
[00:37] <allandee_> lubuntu20dash: try to ssh with "ssh -t"
[00:37] <allandee_> it should force a pseudo-tty
[00:37] <allandee_> and then curses should work too
[00:38] <yagoo> allandee_, i believe simpla is talking about ssh
[00:38] <allandee_> ...provided your TERM environment variable is set to something sane
[00:38] <krazykrivda> i cannot mount my vfat partition anymore so it is not 'locked'.. what should I do.. even running as root i cannot modify
[00:38] <allandee_> yagoo: yes
[00:38] <Nubi1Kenobi> I am running ubuntu 1 and hate it, my friend installed a few other on here and was able to switch between them with ease.....cant remnember how he did that...
[00:38] <allandee_> oh, right
[00:38] <yagoo> allandee_, are you asking about resuming "screen" .. often one would use "screen -RR" after an ssh disconnecdt
[00:38] <allandee_> simpla: try to ssh with "ssh -t"
[00:38] <allandee_> :p
[00:39] <allandee_> and otherwise, scroll up ;D
[00:39] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: ubuntu 1 ?
[00:39] <winut> any application firewall for linux yet? thanks
[00:39] <yagoo> !firewall
[00:39] <ikonia> winut: iptables has been around for a long long time and is in linux
[00:39] <yagoo> ^
[00:39] <winut> app armor is above my knowledge
[00:39] <allandee_> yagoo: no, the issue is interactive operation on a non-controlled (virutally hosted) box, specifially apt-get and dpkg-reconfigure
[00:40] <lubuntu20dash> allandee_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/658327/
[00:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia:Look....i said I am new on here....looks similar to windows....everything is on the left...he was able to switch to kde or something?
[00:40] <ikonia> winut: app armor is not a firewall, but it is what ubuntu uses in place of selinux
[00:40] <allandee_> ssh -t <host>
[00:40] <winut> something like comodo, which can block ip activity per connection
[00:40] <Dude22> Hi - fairly new Ubuntu user here... I have the problem described at: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15296/kernel-panic-line-61-cant-open-scripts-functions ... how do I do what he did to accomplish the solution?  I can't figure out how to boot so I can re-install the package.  TIA
[00:40] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: I'm just trying to understand what you mean as there is no such thing as "ubuntu 1"
[00:40] <ikonia> winut: that's a firewall, look at iptables or the link ubottu provided
[00:41] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia:Look....i said I am new on here....looks similar to windows....everything is on the left...he was able to switch to kde or something?
[00:41] <lubuntu20dash> he probable means ubuntu 11.04
[00:41] <larie> what is default urxvt font?
[00:41] <larie> how to determine?
[00:41] <lubuntu20dash> *probably
[00:41] <larie> :(
[00:41] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: repeating it won't change what I said
[00:41] <Doubleplus> okay, I have absolutely no idea what they mean can someone please help me?
[00:41] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia; sesion switching or something....not all familiar with linux lingo yet
[00:41] <allandee_> larie: your X server/window manager decides
[00:41] <winut> but it doesn't promt you to allow or deny per connection, does it?
[00:41] <Dude22> BTW: I'm running 10.10 and just installed a bunch of updates last night - hasn't worked since.
[00:41] <ikonia> winut: you have to set it up, if you read the link ubottu gave you
[00:42] <allandee_> larie: disregard, there is probably a defined default in Debian
[00:42] <yagoo> Dude22, you need to boot with the install CD and go to a rescue shell, then you'll need to chroot, then try update-initramfs
[00:42] <larie> allandee_: so how to know its name?
[00:42] <ikonia> yagoo: why would he need to run update-initramfs
[00:42] <cmanns> Anyone PXE boot install ubuntu?
[00:42] <yagoo> Dude22, you'll need to linger around on here and ask how to do each of these steps..
[00:43] <bomber_> hi guys. anyone know of a decent gui webadmin for apache2?
[00:43] <larie> allandee_: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/452273/
[00:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia: I do not understand....he was able to switch the whole desktop interface or something. how do you switch between desktops
[00:43] <Dude22> yagoo: ok ... I'll try those steps... had no idea there was a rescue shell :)  thx - I'll post an update later
[00:43] <larie> allandee_: that is part of my .Xdefaults
[00:43] <winut> iptables is global, not per application, is it?
[00:43] <yagoo> Dude22, ok
[00:43] <ikonia> winut: correct
[00:43] <larie> allandee_: Terminus looks crappy
[00:43] <Kaapa> guys, need a quick favor from someone using firefox
[00:43] <ikonia> yagoo: why would he need to run update-initramfs ?
[00:43] <larie> allandee_: i want to change it to default fond but idk how
[00:43] <Kaapa>  to about:config and tell me what you have in the key app.update.channel
[00:44] <allandee_> laria: lucidatypewriter is cool ;)
[00:44] <lubuntu20dash> I get a few minor errors with my video card driver
[00:44] <bomber_> anyone know fo a good webadmin tool for apache2? i found a couple online but would rather use on yuo guys recommend
[00:44] <simpla> allandee_, tried -t same story.  without -t I still get a pts.  (run tty, shows I have a pts)
[00:44] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: you should have a list of desktops available in the greeter (login) prompt,
[00:44] <winut> an ip tables rule builder would be great, which is active and monitors the traffic, building rules for each application with a central interface
[00:45] <winut> based on traffic
[00:45] <ikonia> winut: that tool doesn't really exist
[00:45] <Nubi1Kenobi> Ikonia: i thought i looked there......will check again
[00:45] <larie> allandee_: crappy too
[00:45] <larie> allandee_: i want 9-11 font
[00:45] <lubuntu20dash> I will reset and see what happens
[00:45] <larie> allandee_: lucidatypewriter has bold if <11
[00:45] <allandee_> simpla: that is unfortunate, because that should have done what you wanted.  if you do ssh -vvvt <host> - do you see anything about not being able to allocate the pty?
[00:46] <larie> allandee_: i want small bold too
[00:46] <winut> ikonia, i know, thats the problem!
[00:46] <allandee_> allandee: inconsolate then?
[00:46] <allandee_> inconsolata?
[00:46] <winut> it puts me off linux
[00:46] <allandee_> talking to myself now
[00:46] <ikonia> winut: don't use it then
[00:46] <allandee_> larie: inconsolata then?
[00:46] <winut> :-)
[00:46] <allandee_> laria: do you want a pixel-font?
[00:47] <cmanns> So nobody her
[00:47] <ikonia> cmanns: many people
[00:47] <cmanns> has delt with pxe booting ubuntu?
[00:47] <ikonia> cmanns: yes, many times
[00:47] <simpla> allandee_, nup, says debug2: PTY allocation request accepted on channel 0 ..   everytime i log in its find, i think i am being allocated it, as I am always on a pts/0 or pts/1..  just ncurses keeps going to tty
[00:47] <cmanns> i can pxe boot, i just not sure what exactly steps for ubuntu
[00:47] <ikonia> cmanns: exactly the same as any other OS
[00:47] <cmanns> sorry to drag on about it for a few days i just want alil guidance so i can hook my neighbor up with ubuntu
[00:47] <cmanns> mkay
[00:47] <cmanns> what file do i need to set as the boot
[00:48] <cmanns> initrd in /boot/ ?
[00:48] <FloodBot1> cmanns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <yagoo> !pxe
[00:48] <allandee_> simpla: bizarre, and interesting -- I'll dig a big
[00:48] <cmanns> and what iso should i download
[00:48] <ikonia> cmanns: vmlinuz
[00:48] <ikonia> cmanns: whatever iso you want to use
[00:48] <allandee_> simpla: do you know what software they use for virtualization?
[00:49] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia: I found what I was looking for, but do I have to log off completley for it to actually change to (for example) to KDE>?
[00:49] <cmanns> ikonia, thank you
[00:49] <cmanns> ill grab the smallest iso of it
[00:49] <ikonia> Nubi1Kenobi: yes,
[00:49] <yagoo> cmanns, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[00:49] <cmanns> Damn jetbook laptop wont usb boot and the dvdrom is fubar'd
[00:49] <cmanns> so thank you guys!
[00:49] <cmanns> My neighbor will appriciate ubuntu :D
[00:49] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia: Thnx Man!
[00:49] <larie> allandee_: inconsolata looks better but it is s,ooth
[00:49] <yagoo> cmanns, spread the word :)
[00:49] <larie> allandee_: i do noot need smoothness
[00:49] <larie> allandee_: i need sharp font
[00:49] <cmanns> EXACTLY thank you yagoo !
[00:50] <cmanns> I needed that url
[00:50] <cmanns> :D
[00:50] <allandee_> larie: I think it's called "hinting", the smoothing technique, maybe look for somewhere to turn it off
[00:50] <allandee_> larie: do you want to turn it off only in rxvt?
[00:50] <krazykrivda> How can i mount my vfat partition so it is not 'locked'?
[00:50] <cmanns> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[00:50] <cmanns> use that?
[00:50] <ikonia> cmanns: I wouldn't
[00:50] <larie> allandee_: i want to know default urxvt's font name :(
[00:51] <allandee_> oh, because that's what you want?
[00:51] <cmanns> which would you use ikonia
[00:51] <ikonia> cmanns: an iso which has local installation
[00:51] <cmanns> i got fast net but its old laptop so i want to be easy on it's PXE
[00:51] <cmanns> mk
[00:51] <larie> allandee_: yes ;) i will set that font in Xdefaults and tune it
[00:51] <allandee_> aaaah
[00:52] <larie> allandee_: because latin symbols looks good if no font settings in .Xdfaults
[00:52] <cmanns> Sucks the pos laptop wont boot off usb
[00:52] <cmanns> we had it on a stick
[00:52] <ikonia> cmanns: tone the language down please.
[00:52] <larie> allandee_: but i want to change size and add two fonts for korean/japanese
[00:52] <larie> allandee_: i can do that easily
[00:52] <larie> allandee_: if i know the fontname haha :3
[00:53] <allandee_> there's an app from the dinosaur area, called xfontsel, but you'll have to dick around a bit.  the upside is that it produces lines suitable for .Xdefaults for you
[00:53] <allandee_> but I recall an app that graps info of the selected window from the window manager also, I'll try to find
[00:53] <larie> allandee_: thx
[00:53] <cmanns> Where should I get ISO ikonia ?
[00:53] <cmanns> sorry for lang
[00:54] <simpla> allandee_, , Linux, GFS2, Libvirt, KVM.
[00:54] <ikonia> cmanns: ubuntu.com
[00:54] <ikonia> cmanns: have you done any research or this ?
[00:54] <ikonia> "on"
[00:55] <krazykrivda> my fstab file says '/mnt/FILES vfat user,rw,exec 0 0' but then runnint the mount command it returns as /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev) .... how can I fix this?
[00:55] <allandee_> simpla: did you say which virtualization software your provider uses?
[00:56] <allandee_> simpla: nm, saw it now o.O
[00:56] <allandee_> larie: xprop
[00:56] <G00053> i'm gonna do a fresh install, how do i output a list of all the packages i have installed right now for future reference
[00:56] <simpla> allandee_,  yep, it says  Linux, GFS2, Libvirt, KVM.
[00:58] <allandee_> simpla: which tty/pts does it say your shell is using?
[00:58] <allandee_> simpla: as per "who am i" or equivalent
[00:59] <simpla> allandee_, pts/0,
[00:59] <yagoo> krazykrivda, you're missing the device on that fstab line
[00:59] <allandee_> simpla: are you connecting as a user then su-ing, or directly as root?
[01:00] <allandee_> larie: "xprop" is the program you're looking for, to extract info about the font your terminal window is using
[01:00] <simpla> G00053, dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[01:00] <G00053> simpla: thanks!
[01:00] <larie> allandee_: xprop -id 0x1e00006
[01:01] <larie> allandee_: no font info
[01:01] <simpla> allandee_, user then sudo..  always thought it was bad to ssh in as root :)
[01:01] <allandee_> larie: just do "xprop" from a shell, then click in the window
[01:01] <cmanns> ikonia, I need some stuff here right http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[01:02] <larie> allandee_: same result
[01:02] <allandee_> simpla: sudo might confuse the "new" shell about filehandles
[01:03] <allandee_> larie: where did you get urxvt from?  I'll try it here
[01:03] <etzerd> hello all
[01:03] <etzerd> is ubuntu 11.04 release yet?
[01:03] <allandee_> larie: is it unicode-rxvt?
[01:03] <larie> allandee_: yes :)
[01:04] <itaylor57> etzerd, it has been since April
[01:04] <simpla> allandee_, hmm  will test..  have to change ssh config to allow root.  brb
[01:04] <MrBIOS-seamicro> hi folks, trying to load the lguest kernel module in Lucid, but it doesn't seem to exist
[01:04] <MrBIOS-seamicro> any advice?
[01:04] <MrBIOS-seamicro> supposedly it's there
[01:04] <larie> allandee_: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/452284/
[01:04] <MrBIOS-seamicro> I can't find it with aptitude though
[01:04] <etzerd> thanks
[01:05] <induz> what version of linux/debian/archLinux will be good to have a standalone os on my 1 gb USB
[01:05] <induz> I tried auturumi .iso but its asking me for PAE CPU
[01:06] <ikonia> induz: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - pleaes don't ask in here
[01:08] <simpla> allandee_, you are a legend!  sudo is interferring.  Root login I get ncurses in ssh session (pts/1)
[01:09] <anadon> hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?
[01:09] <allandee_> simpla: whee ;)  glad to help
[01:10] <simpla> allandee_, is su similar in a sense as sudo?
[01:12] <th0r> are man pages optional in debian?
[01:13] <allandee_> simpla: well, stdin/stdout/stderr as C knows about it is really ancient, and only physical terminals were considered, and by default is filehandle 0/1/2 -- stuff like sudo, ssh and even telnet are pseudo terminals.  so in that sense, they are similar.
[01:13] <Phong_> anyone know in term of database, wha tis replica  meant?
[01:13] <Phong_> what is replica or replication, in term of database ??
[01:13] <gnob> Phong_: copy
[01:13] <Phong_> oh
[01:13] <ikonia> Phong_: copying data from one data to another
[01:14] <Phong_> a ha
[01:14] <Phong_> thanks
[01:14] <anadon> hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?
[01:14] <Phong_> i got fail when someone ask me ,  what is normalize database..
[01:14] <Phong_> i fail on that ;(
[01:14] <allandee_> simpla: and "advanced" stuff like curses need additional events happen.  like, the traditional stdin is only expected to empty it's buffer to the "listening" program until the user hits return
[01:14] <ikonia> Phong_: this really isn't ubuntu questioning
[01:14] <Phong_> ok
[01:15] <ikonia> Phong_: this channel deals with ubuntu issues, not really general technical stuff
[01:15] <somsip> Phong_: there are various levels of normalization. w3schools.com is one place to read up on it
[01:15] <djjonex> need a remote acces app
[01:15] <anadon> they're built in
[01:16] <somsip> djjonex: X or terminal?
[01:16] <anadon> both, and vpn remote desktop viewing
[01:16] <allandee_> larie: on an ancient box here, the default rxvt is "-fixed-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" and it looks pretty similar
[01:16] <allandee_> at least it's a place to start with xfontsel
[01:16] <somsip> djjonex: vnc is simple for X. I can't help with VPN
[01:16] <djjonex> somsip: i want to access another computer outside my lan if it can be X thats great
[01:16] <allandee_> the urxvt font on Ubuntu definitely looks like a traditional fixed font at any rate
[01:17] <somsip> djjonex: if it's collaborating (you working on someone else's computer) TeamViewer is ok
[01:17] <anadon> ddenis: ssh into the machine, then enter "startx"
[01:17] <djjonex> somsip: theres no replacement for teamviewer?
[01:17] <allandee_> xprop doesn't report fonts from the modern font renderers
[01:17] <anadon> ddonex: ssh into the machine, then enter "startx"
[01:17] <somsip> djjonex: probbaly. I'm not the fount of all knowledge.
[01:18] <djjonex> somsip: lol thats fine thanks bro
[01:18] <somsip> djjonex: np. There are many solutions, as anadon is also saying
[01:18] <anadon> yup
[01:18] <anadon> its software
[01:18] <anadon> n=1/0 ways of doing things
[01:18] <anadon> O SHI-
[01:19]  * anadon obliterated
[01:19] <djjonex> somsip: thanks my friend
[01:19] <somsip> djjonex: yr welcome
[01:20] <FerretWithASpork> Hi all. I'm having some partitioning troubles. I resized a parition and there was some sort of error in the process. Now when I try to mount it I get "Error mounting: Failed to read last sector". Is there a possible fix that doesn't involve data loss?
[01:21] <allandee_> with my fresh Ubuntu installation, switching between applications is slow.  my hardware should be sufficient, and nvidia drivers are the most recent available.  does anyone have a tip?
[01:21] <somsip> allandee_: define 'switching'
[01:21] <cmanns> ikonia, no
[01:21] <allandee_> FerretWithASpork: that sounds like a harware problem
[01:21] <DeviceZer0> FerretWithASpork, eeek...doesnt look good. You can try a fsck maybe...but not sure that will work without data loss
[01:22] <ikonia> cmanns: ?
[01:22] <cmanns> ikonia,
[01:22] <cmanns> you said to get full install
[01:22] <cmanns> but im loading over pxe
[01:22] <allandee_> somsip: alt-tabbomg, and clicking on a window that is not the current one
[01:22] <cmanns> dont i need netinstall iso
[01:22] <ikonia> cmanns: yes ?
[01:22] <cmanns> my cdrom dont work
[01:22] <allandee_> alt-tabbing*
[01:22] <szal> !enter | cmanns
[01:22] <FloodBot1> cmanns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <ikonia> cmanns: do you want to install of the internet ?
[01:22] <ikonia> cmanns: or do you want to install over the network
[01:23] <cmanns> I want to install over network since i dont have the usb with ubuntu nor does cdrom work, so dont i need netinstall?
[01:23] <larie> allandee_: i have no that font
[01:23] <somsip> allandee_: ok - sorry, no immediate suggests. Maybe get some systems info on the screen while you're doing it to see if anything weird is happening
[01:23] <larie> allandee_: what is -fixed-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 ?
[01:23] <ikonia> cmanns: ok, so the netinstall installs over the internet
[01:23] <cmanns> thats fine i got fast net
[01:23] <allandee_> allandee_: also, I have switched off the compositing_manager
[01:23] <cmanns> so grab that iso and setup tftp and dhcp?
[01:23] <ikonia> cmanns: so you pxeboot the standard CD image, and it will install locally over your network
[01:23] <cmanns> like i did for the last pxe boot
[01:23] <cmanns> ic
[01:23] <cmanns> i can boot that over old hardware?
[01:23] <allandee_> larie: you can paste that into .Xdefaults for your terminal, hang on, I'll find the format
[01:24] <FerretWithASpork> DeviceZer0: It's actually an NTFS system.. is that worse?
[01:24] <PlayerDisconnect> Anyone here with an HP Pavilion dv6 have a successful installation of Ubuntu?
[01:24] <ikonia> cmanns: what are you talking about ?
[01:24] <cmanns> So instead of   tar -xvzf netboot.tar.gz -C /var/lib/tftpboot/ just undo the iso into my tftp dir?
[01:24] <cmanns> Ive had old hardware not boot larger images
[01:24] <DeviceZer0> FerretWithASpork, im not sure....wouldnt you do all that stuff locally?
[01:25] <cmanns> i mean i got regular cd im down to try it in a min
[01:25] <allandee_> larie: "urxvt*font:  -fixed-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"
[01:25] <ikonia> cmanns: ok, there are two phases, 1.) boot a system to get it on the network to be able to boot 2.) use 1.) to boot the actuall installer
[01:25] <cmanns> doing a client system though this is donated time ubuntu for neighbor and i dont got router that does the dhcp yet
[01:25] <ikonia> cmanns: you need to phases, do you understand ?
[01:25] <cmanns> ikonia, ok
[01:25] <allandee_> larie: that way of configuring it has been deprecated for a long time, but it should still work
[01:25] <larie> allandee_: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/452295/
[01:25] <allandee_> if not with .Xdefaults, then with .Xresources
[01:25] <cmanns> so pxelinux will load the installer off the tftp?
[01:25] <ikonia> cmanns: no, it will boot what you tell it to boot
[01:26] <cmanns> yea
[01:26] <cmanns> okay
[01:26] <larie> allandee_: latin symbols looks perfect if commented
[01:26] <cmanns> So do I need to unpack the iso in tftp dir or it'll boot as iso
[01:26] <gurkhali_69> can anyone suggest me a download accelerator + download manager for ubuntu equivalent of IDM in windows?
[01:26] <djjonex> need rapidshare account
[01:26] <ikonia> cmanns: you won't be able to boot the iso directory, you can boot the mini kernel which can uncompress and load the iso, or you can uncompress the iso and boot it directly
[01:27] <cmanns> ah ok
[01:27] <cmanns> so just fallow that page basically?
[01:27] <allandee_> larie: so, how does it look when you add the "urxvt*font:  -fixed-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" line to your .Xdefaults?
[01:27] <ikonia> cmanns: pretty much
[01:27] <leolaurel> #android-dev
[01:27] <allandee_> or URxvt if it's case sensitive, but I think not
[01:28] <larie> allandee_: can't start urxvt with that line :)
[01:28] <cmanns> ikonia, so I put the contents of netbook.tar.gz in tftp for pxelinux and boot and mini kernel
[01:28] <cmanns> where do I put the iso?
[01:29] <somsip> larie: My install or urxvt didn't like that font format either. I had to drop back to a different format...which is on another distro I'm not running nright now so I can't copy it
[01:29] <cmanns> that'd be only place im stuck id suppose
[01:29] <ikonia> cmanns: are you reading the guide ?
[01:29] <ikonia> cmanns: I thought you said you know how to pxelinux
[01:29] <cmanns> i am
[01:29] <cmanns> yes but it was a few months ago i forgot 100% what i did
[01:29] <ikonia> cmanns: that guide pretty much spells it out for you
[01:29] <chrometiger> what is the easiest way of makeing a exact copy of my ubuntu install/partition  to a iso i can just stick in and install to another computer ?
[01:29] <allandee_> larie: *sigh* all this modern stuff ;)  that font has been hardcoded into the XFree86 binary for forever though
[01:29] <cmanns> -but it doesnt saywhere to put the full iso
[01:30] <szal> chrometiger: bad idea, if the hardware is different, you'll most probably be unable to boot initially
[01:30] <larie> allandee_: hehe :)
[01:31] <cmanns> im serious i dotn find that on the docs ikonia
[01:31] <ikonia> cmanns: that guide doesn't tell you where to do that as it's not using menu.c32
[01:31] <chrometiger> szal: ok lets say its same computer differant hdd
[01:31] <allandee_> laria: oh, but terminus!
[01:32] <cmanns> ikonia, so what i need for my case
[01:32] <cmanns> that guides assuming cdrom doesnt boot but works and you have install media there or usb
[01:32] <cmanns> this cdrom doesnt work at all
[01:32] <simpla> thanks guys for your help..  gotta go for work.. :(
[01:32] <allandee_> larie: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TESjbRNI6SI/AAAAAAAABhY/BLtIFTNQZvg/font-terminus.png
[01:32] <ikonia> cmanns: that guide does not mention the cdrom drive at all - forget the cdrom drive
[01:32] <cmanns> ok
[01:32] <simpla> allandee_, thanks again for you help .. gotta go for work :(.
[01:33] <cmanns> So could you just entail roughly what I want to do to load the ubuntu installer over the network? thats all, much appriciated
[01:33] <allandee_> simpla: my pleasure, have a good one
[01:33] <ikonia> cmanns: keep it simple, just use the netinstaller
[01:33] <ikonia> cmanns: you'll have to install over the internet, rather than the network
[01:34] <cmanns> ok so that netboot setup has netinstaller built in?
[01:34] <cmanns> i can do that i got 2mbyte/sec down
[01:34] <ikonia> cmanns: correct
[01:34] <cmanns> thanks ikonia
[01:34] <cmanns> ill try this in a bit
[01:34] <anadon> hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?
[01:34] <larie> allandee_: not bad but no bold
[01:35] <allandee_> anadon: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ maybe?
[01:35] <allandee_> larie: ;(
[01:36] <allandee_> larie: give an example of where the bold is missing btw
[01:36] <anadon> allandee_: I have only a bootable USB drive at my disposal, and that's what I'm currently booting from.
[01:39] <allandee_> anadon: I don't get it -- you only have a usb drive, and you're booting from it?
[01:39] <allandee_> anadon: no fixed hdd?
[01:42] <allandee_> anadon:...because if you have a hdd, but forced to boot via your USB device into any of the OS-es installed on your HDD, then installing rescatux on the usb would be the step towards being able to boot all of your OS-es without the use of the USB device
[01:42] <larie> allandee_: http://imagebin.org/166291
[01:43] <larie> allandee_: bad big terminus at left
[01:43] <larie> allandee_: and good unknown font at right
[01:43] <slide> Ive installed the ubuntu minimal cd without a desktop but my console is not taking up the entire screen, how can I get it to?
[01:43] <anadon> allandee_: sorry, I have a working laptop, an ubuntu install that can't boot, and a windows install that requires UEFI which I disbled in my BIOS.
[01:45] <yagoo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:46] <allandee_> anadon: is your Ubuntu-installation a 64-bit one?
[01:46] <anadon> on the HDD, yes
[01:46] <anadon> the boot-repair repository is broken--404
[01:46] <slide> i just used it a few minutes ago
[01:46] <anadon> the USB one I think is 32, I'll double check
[01:47] <anadon> nope, its 64
[01:47] <slide> installed in a live cd and fixed my boot setup
[01:47] <allandee_> larie: apart from being big, how is it wrong?  there's bold there
[01:47] <larie> allandee_: big is bad ;)
[01:48] <allandee_> anadon: what happens when you try to boot it?
[01:48] <larie> allandee_: no bold there http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TESjbRNI6SI/AAAAAAAABhY/BLtIFTNQZvg/font-terminus.png
[01:48] <anadon> allandee_: BIOS says "Operating System Not Found"
[01:48] <anadon> unless I enable EFI, at which point, it boots windows
[01:49] <P`AWAY> what is the recommended partition size in a notebook core 2 duo 4GB RAM ?
[01:49] <allandee_> larie: that's because there are no parts of it that is hinted as bold.  the default shell cosmetics in Ubuntu is not universal, it's not usual to use bold in prompts
[01:49] <tyler_d1> this is the only xorg.conf I can get to load, can someone please help me to get unity back up and running; http://paste.ubuntu.com/658343/
[01:49] <allandee_> anadon: ow!
[01:50] <anadon> allandee_:  yeah...
[01:50] <anadon> tyler_d1:  what's the issue
[01:50] <larie> allandee_: oh!
[01:50] <tyler_d1> anadon:  no unity :(
[01:51] <anadon> tyler_d1: do you have X?  A gui?  Gnome 2?
[01:51] <tyler_d1> anadon: i have tried playing with the file, removing any of the screens or cards results in it not loading saying "screen not found"
[01:51] <allandee_> anadon: do you know what's on your mbr?
[01:51] <anadon> tyler_d1: way, way different issue...
[01:51] <anadon> allandee_: gpt, not mbr
[01:51] <tyler_d1> anadon: I have installed the drivers and tried it (from teh bios) in discrete and switchable
[01:52] <anadon> tyler_d1:  are you on it now?
[01:52] <tyler_d1> anadon: I have the latest kernel 2.6.38-11-generic-pae
[01:52] <tyler_d1> anadon: I am, with the old gnome
[01:52] <allandee_> allandee: well, the first of what your bios reads then, it's on the same place on the disk as the bios sees it
[01:52] <cob> ahh ffs, why is it so hard to get polished software on Linux?!
[01:53] <allandee_> I keep talking to myself
[01:53] <anadon> allandee_:  read UEFI up on wikipedia.  It's a hot-fixed mess
[01:53] <yagoo> !upgrade
[01:53] <anadon> tyler_d1: ok...did you try logging out, then switching the desktop session to "ubuntu"
[01:54] <allandee_> anadon: yea, I know, I have boxes booting linux, windows and OS X from the same disk.
[01:54] <anadon> allandee_: damn...
[01:54] <tyler_d1> anadon: it is booted into 'ubuntu' I have tried a reboot as well
[01:54] <allandee_> however, the boot record that your bios reads is key
[01:54] <Naildriver> Hello
[01:54] <anadon> tyler_d1: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:54] <tyler_d1> anadon: 11.04
[01:54] <allandee_> stage 0 boot, is it grub?
[01:54] <Naildriver> What can you do when you run into grub rescue?
[01:55] <anadon> allandee_: what do I need to find out about it?
[01:55] <cob> hey, what do you guys use for IRC clients?
[01:55] <celeborn> Hi, how come, after installing apache2, and then doing apt-get purge apache2,
[01:55] <d784> my monitor shows "no signal" so i thought it was bad video card,so i bought a new one.
[01:55] <tyler_d1> anadon: my frustration is that in switchable mode, lspci -v shows that the intel is on 0:1:0:0 and the nvidia is on 0:2:0:0 but I cannot get it to boot to that card
[01:55] <anadon> tyler_d1: what graphics card do you have?
[01:55] <tyler_d1> intel/nvidia
[01:55] <anadon> tyler_d1: specifically
[01:55] <d784> and nothing,but than found out when i remove the ram and reseat it again it worked
[01:55] <d784> can the ram slots be faulty?
[01:55] <tyler_d1> anadon: nvidia GT330M
[01:56] <allandee_> anadon: the characters in the upperl left of the screen right after the bios screen is telling
[01:56] <cob> is there an ubuntu friendly IRC client that will quietly dock in the "tray" and notify me whenever somebody mentions me or messages me?
[01:56] <anadon> tyler_d1: have you installed the restricted drivers?
[01:56] <tyler_d1> anadon: yes
[01:56] <anadon> tyler_d1: using what?
[01:56] <knoppix> any knoppix help available?
[01:56] <xangua> cob xchat, empathy and pidgin have support for indicator menu
[01:57] <cob> knoppix, go away troll
[01:57] <szal> knoppix: /join #knoppix
[01:57] <d784> .
[01:57] <xangua> knoppix: try the knopix channel
[01:57] <Naildriver> Anyone know what to do when you try to  boot and run into Grub Rescue and nothing boots?
[01:57] <tyler_d1> anadon: System--> Admin--> additional drivers
[01:57] <knoppix> thx
[01:57] <szal> !attitude | cob
[01:57]  * cob sighs
[01:58] <allandee_> cob: at least he's not talking to himself
[01:59] <Naildriver> tap tap is this thing on.. lol
[01:59] <Naildriver> can anyone see me?
[01:59] <th0r> Naildriver: this is irc, there is no video support
[02:00] <cob> hi Naildriver, do you get a grub prompt?
[02:00] <Naildriver> lol I know that I mean my chat words
[02:00] <Naildriver> all I get is device not found grub rescue
[02:00] <allandee_> th0r: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EdIsTheStandardTextEditor
[02:00] <moes> Naildriver, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub
[02:01] <Dude22> Can someone help me set the locale from rescue mode and chroot ?  I'm getting error messages "Cannot set... to default locale: No such file or directory"
[02:01] <szal> moes: what good does that do if one can't even boot?
[02:01] <Naildriver> I have 3 hdd drives in my comp with 4 different OS on them and I think I killed it last  night when I swapped out one of the drives
[02:01] <szal> Naildriver: do you have more than 1 HDD?
[02:02] <szal> Naildriver: in that case most probably the device mapping in the installed system is different than during installation; try changing the order of HDDs in the BIOS until you find the right one
[02:03] <Naildriver> ok well I wiped all the drives but two partitions one has win 7 still on it and the other is all my information both are on different drives
[02:03] <allandee_> Naildriver: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ might be a good for tinkering with that
[02:03] <cob> Naildriver, can also try booting from an ubuntu rescue disc and reinstalling grub. i always find a blog post when I need to do it again.
[02:04] <allandee_> a good start*
[02:04] <allandee_> with my fresh Ubuntu installation, switching between applications is slow.  my hardware should be sufficient, and nvidia drivers are the most recent available.  does anyone have a tip?
[02:04] <Naildriver> I tried reinstalling grub but it didn't work
[02:05] <szal> Naildriver: as I said, change order of HDDs in BIOS
[02:05] <allandee_> Naildriver: rescatux might be more helpful still
[02:05] <Naildriver> thats why I wiped all the drives figured I'd start over since all my info is in one partition
[02:05] <Naildriver> Allandee I'm going to look at that now..
[02:06] <Naildriver> all I want to do is save my win 7 so I don't have reload all that crap again
[02:06] <Naildriver> Ubuntu is easy :)
[02:06] <allandee_> Naildriver: each of your partitions come with a potential piece of info for booting.  grub is capable of setting up for it.  rescatux might help instructing grub how to boot them, where you might not know how to.
[02:07] <Naildriver> I'm looking at the website now
[02:07] <allandee_> goodie ;)
[02:10] <Doubleplus> does anyone have any idea how to install usb_modeswitcher
[02:10] <Doubleplus> ?
[02:10] <Doubleplus> becuase Im at a complete loss
[02:10] <allandee_> Naildriver: oh, and also, if all you want to do at this point is booting your W7, then booting from the W7 install media and choosing the repair option, will nuke your boot-manager in favour of being able to boot W
[02:10] <hashitish> How could i browse my external hard drive via the terminal. I cd to /media and ls     Expansion drive is there but i can cd inot it
[02:11] <hashitish> into*
[02:11] <usr13> Doubleplus: sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[02:12] <dli> hashitish, ls -l
[02:12] <Doubleplus> no internet connection :/
[02:12] <chris__> Quick question:  2 Xeon 64 bit (yes long mode enabled) listed as 4 CPUs in ubuntu.....so does ubuntu 32bit just recognize the 32 bit paths as a single CPU?
[02:13] <dli> chris__, I guess you mean hyperthreading
[02:13] <chris__> hyperthreading does this?
[02:13] <chris__> ok
[02:13] <chris__> going to have to read up on the hyperthreading deal for the xeons
[02:13] <hashitish> dli: so the feat is impossible, that seems dumb!
[02:14] <dli> hashitish, please report what are you doing, and, error messages, etc
[02:14] <Karolkens> Hi
[02:14] <cob> oh, I'm curious... I have this 64bit netbook, from Asus, I haven't toyed with hyperthreading, infact... isn't that a Intel only? would it be possible to get it to act as 2 cpus for 32 bit?
[02:14] <cob> its an AMD cpu
[02:15] <ChogyDan> cob: hyberthreading isn't splitting the bit width in 2, its a separate tech
[02:15] <dli> cob, ht is from intel only :( ht doesn't mean to run 64bit as two 32 bit CPUs
[02:15] <hashitish> dli: im just randomly browsing my pc via the terminal, like ya do, id like to browse my external hard drive through the terminal just for fun  but your telling me thats impossible
[02:15] <cob> rgr, thanks
[02:16] <chris__> trying to weight 64 bit ubuntu vs 32 w/ PAE
[02:16] <dli> hashitish, no, I didn't say that, or hinted that in anyway, I suggested: ls -l
[02:16] <Luig1> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main linux-libc-dev i386 2.6.35-1028.50  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80]
[02:16] <Luig1> Why does that one package fail?
[02:16] <hashitish> dli: ls -l tell's me its impossible you nit picker lol
[02:17] <Luig1> I can't update unless I lock it to its current version on my system. Once that one package is locked I can update fine
[02:17] <dli> chris__, if your machine supports 64bit (all not so old CPU do), choose 64bit
[02:17] <usr13> hashitish: dli is telling you to issue command   ls -l
[02:17] <hashitish> dli: i assumed you knew this
[02:17] <hashitish> dli: obviously not my bad holmes
[02:17] <ChogyDan> Luig1: what does apt-cache policy linux-libc-dev say?
[02:17] <xangua> Luig1: tried the main repositories¿
[02:18] <almoxarife> Luig1: the ip failed, try another server
[02:18] <xangua>  I mean, main server Luig1
[02:18] <hashitish> dli: dont listen to a word i say im an idiot :)_
[02:18] <Luig1> I haven't made any modifications to my repositories
[02:18] <Luig1> It's all default as far as I can remember
[02:18] <hashitish> dli: so ls -l
[02:18] <allandee_> Doubleplus: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev ; cd ~ ; mkdir tmp ; wget http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/usb-modeswitch-1.1.8.tar.bz2 ; tar jxf u* ; cd us*8 ; make install
[02:18] <hashitish> dli: gives me a different output
[02:19] <allandee_> probably "sudo make install" btw
[02:19] <Luig1> ChogyDan http://pastebin.com/mSKS90Ak
[02:20] <hashitish> dli: do i need to chmod or wuteva to make the external accessible via the terminal ?
[02:20] <hashitish> usr13: im an idiot
[02:21] <szal> hashitish: please pastebin output of 'ls -lA'
[02:21] <hashitish> okies
[02:21] <szal> hashitish: correction: 'ls -lA /media/'
[02:21] <dli> hashitish, how do you mount external?
[02:22] <hashitish> it auto mounts itself
[02:23] <ChogyDan> Luig1: have you sudo apt-get updated recently?
[02:24] <DasEi> hashitish: so own the mountdir to the regular user for read/write access without need of root
[02:24] <Luig1> I used the update manager today, after locking that package and chrome
[02:24] <Luig1> So I think that's the same?
[02:24] <massmc1> cd /media/goonvault
[02:24] <DasEi> hashitish: enter mount in trml to see where it's mounted , aka /media/SomeWhere
[02:24] <hashitish> szal: http://pastebin.com/qvVyP6JB
[02:24] <allandee_> on my fresh install of Ubuntu, running Unity, switching between applications is slow.  any tips?
[02:25] <jwiggins> Anyone have a USB AWUS036NH wireless adapter? I have been trying to get it to work under ubuntu 11.04 to no luck
[02:25] <hashitish> szal: first one is ls -l second was ls -lA /media/
[02:25] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[02:25] <marshall> is it normal for root not to be able to access files that don't belong to it? I thought root had access to everything.
[02:25] <ChogyDan> Luig1: can you try it?
[02:25] <jwiggins> Everytime I plug it in, I just see "hub 1-1:1.0: over-current change on port 1" in the dmesg output
[02:25] <szal> hashitish: ok, how do you change into there?
[02:25] <Luig1> Yes, it's going right now ChogyDan
[02:25] <hashitish> cd /media
[02:25] <allandee_> marshall: that's not normal
[02:26] <szal> hashitish: no, into the drive
[02:26] <hashitish> i cant
[02:26] <Naildriver> for the slow 11.04 could it be an older machine and 11.04 is  using more than older versions?
[02:26] <DasEi> hashitish: mediawhat ?
[02:26] <hashitish> via terminal
[02:26] <szal> hashitish: why not?
[02:26] <hashitish> i dont know lol
[02:26] <seclm193> omegaforte, hows it going?
[02:26] <chamunks> I have an archived harddrive with either sparsely corrupted data or the drive itself is failing I need to save as much as possible while being gentle to the possibly dieing drive and also ensure that the copy has been as perfect as possible.   I do not wish to send this drive to an recovery agency but will if I must as this data is very dear to me and is about 500gigs so not a small task.
[02:26] <seclm193> anyone here uses virtualbox on ubuntu 11.04?
[02:26] <DasEi> hashitish: enter "mount" in trml to see where it's mounted , aka /media/SomeWhere
[02:26] <jwiggins> seclm193, I do
[02:26] <marshall> allandee_: it's not normal for root not to be able to access some other user's files?
[02:26] <szal> hashitish: you gotta be trying to do something, that's what I'm trying to find out
[02:26] <somsip> seclm193: yup, y?
[02:27] <hashitish> DasEi: its /media/Expansion Drive/
[02:27] <Naildriver> I've read that you can seal your hdd in an airtight bag and put it in the freezer for 2 plus hours and then extract all the vital data
[02:27] <allandee_> Naildriver: haven't used any Linux desktop destro in a while, but it's an i3 running at 2.9GHz, 8 gb ram, nVidia GeForce GTX460, and there are no similar issues in W7 or OS X
[02:27] <Naildriver> wow it should fly on that machine
[02:27] <szal> hashitish: try 'cd /media/Exp<Tab>', that should autocomplete the path
[02:28] <seclm193> jwiggins, let me ask you a question: i installed virtualbox and restarted.  everytime it started xorg it froze.  i logged into recovery root and removed and restarted.  no problems.  any ideas?
[02:28] <DasEi> hashitish: sudo chown -R $USER /media/Expansion<<press TAB here>>
[02:28] <hashitish> szal: im just trying to browse my external hard drive via the terminal for no apparent reason!
[02:28] <allandee_> Naildriver: everything else does, but switching apps is painful
[02:28] <r0z4> hi everybody, could you help me with my microphone and skype i can hear but nobody can hear me :(
[02:28] <chamunks> Naildriver, I've been thinking that worst case scenario the drive is the actual issue i was thinking of buying a styrofoam cooler and filling it with dry ice and the drive itself and just run it from in there.
[02:28] <seclm193> somsip, look at message left to jwiggins
[02:28] <Naildriver> have you tried reinstalling
[02:28] <Luig1> ChogyDan, after the other people who helped pointed out that there are different options for the main repos I checked mine, they were set to "us servers" instead of main. I switched it to main and did sudo aptitude update just now, and nothing interesting happened (that is, it didn't change any packages, it just made a list and finished with "Fetched 2,728B in 1s (1,498B/s)", so I think that's good, then?
[02:28] <DasEi> hashitish: no cd there and try to open a file
[02:28] <DasEi> now*
[02:28] <hashitish> DasEi: w8 wut
[02:29] <somsip> seclm193: I don't see it. I'm happy to pass comment if I can, but need more info
[02:29] <hashitish> DasEi: if i try cd there it tells me theres no such file or directory
[02:29] <Naildriver> Chamunks they say that freezing the drives tightens them up and helps the performance for a limited amount of time about enough to recover some data
[02:29] <allandee_> chamunks: most modern drives are capable of report their running temperature
[02:29] <seclm193> somsip, let me ask you a question: i installed virtualbox and restarted.  everytime it started xorg it froze.  i logged into recovery root and removed and restarted.  no problems.  any ideas?
[02:30] <szal> hashitish: you need to escape the whitespace; as I said, try 'cd /media/Exp<Tab>'
[02:30] <Luig1>  Oh hey now 'sudo aptitude upgrade linux-libc-dev' successfully updated. Thanks to everyone who helped!
[02:30] <Naildriver> Freezing a hdd is for a known failing drive
[02:30] <hashitish> DasEi: it would go like this cd /media/Expansion Drive/
[02:30] <hashitish> k
[02:30] <somsip> seclm193: Ah, no. I installed it and it worked. I found a few tricks for running some OSes, but that's as far as my knowledge extends
[02:30] <DasEi> hashitish: sudo fdisk -l , which device is it ? /dev/sdb ?
[02:30] <allandee_> hashitish: or cd "<your path>"
[02:30] <Luig1> My system also has like a dozen other issues so I might be back some time for any one of those. Thanks again!
[02:31] <hashitish> szal: thank you kind sir that worked
[02:31] <chamunks> allandee_, The issue is mainly I dont know if the drive is failing but some data on the drive is seeming to be somewhat corrupt.  So i wish to recover as much as possible without being too intensive on the drive.
[02:31] <Naildriver> Allandee have you tried reinstalling 11.04 to see if that fixes the slow program switch
[02:31] <szal> hashitish: see how the path was autocompleted
[02:31] <seclm193> somsip, ok.  i didn't even install any virtual machine.  it has something to do with the kernel modules
[02:31] <hashitish> szal: it was wierd cd /media/Expansion\ Drive/   like wtf lol
[02:31] <allandee_> chamunks: aha!
[02:32] <hashitish> szal: yeah got it buddy, thx :)
[02:32] <chamunks> Naildriver, Well I could imagine that running the drive in a subzero environment that it should give me some extended time with the drive if it is beginning to fail.
[02:32] <allandee_> chamunks: I don't want to crush any hopes then. o.O
[02:32] <chamunks> allandee_, but i do appreciate your time / attention to the matter.
[02:33] <Naildriver> Chamunks that is very possible but how are you going to keep it dry with the cables attached to it?
[02:33] <hashitish> cool now i can move all my illegally downloaded material via the terminal. this is soo  kewl and pro :)
[02:34] <chamunks> Naildriver, Secure the drive inside of an appropriately sized double ziplock bag and attempt to position the setup so that the cables wont be dripping water into the bag.
[02:34] <allandee_> chamunks: I will suggest that whatever heat your hdd is exposed to is unlikely to affect it's operation, though.
[02:35] <chamunks> allandee_, I've been told and read at many sources that on a failing drive that freezing it will give you some extra time before it dies fully.
[02:35] <Naildriver> Chamunks love that "attempt"  good luck with that water vapor does what it wants.. I would try freezing it first and see what happens
[02:35] <allandee_> chamunks: only if it's the electronics failing
[02:35] <Naildriver> The idea behind freezing the hdd is to tighten it up after the ware factor sets in
[02:35] <allandee_> which is the rarer case
[02:36] <itaylor57> frozen drives, reminds me of the crays I used to program
[02:36] <oxfordattic> can anyone read this?
[02:36] <allandee_> itaylor57: !!!
[02:36] <Dude22> Can someone help me with recovery mode ... I'm trying to reinstall findutils and I'm getting the following error:  "unable to make backup link of './usr/bin/find' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[02:36] <Pskol> oxfordattic, no
[02:36] <th0r> oxfordattic: no
[02:36] <allandee_> itaylor57: what did you program on those magnificent beasts?
[02:36] <Dude22> Can someone tell me how to fix that?  I can't boot my system until fixed
[02:36] <MichaelM> michaelm
[02:36] <oxfordattic> ok thanks, i've been having problems
[02:36] <chamunks> Naildriver, I could load the bag with dessicant.  but i figure as long as i maintain the cold temprature inside the semi-sealed styrofoam cooler should keep the moisture down reasonably.
[02:37] <Naildriver> Chamunks yes but the drive is going to cause at least some heat
[02:38] <chamunks> Naildriver, I agree entirely though it isnt a method that I'm putting at the top of my list thats for sure.
[02:38] <Naildriver> ok here we go booting Rescatux now
[02:38] <chamunks> Naildriver, the drive is currently very responsive just is exhibiting some symptoms of degredation
[02:38] <Dude22> can someone help me reinstall a package in recovery mode?  getting errors with APTITUDE
[02:38] <Naildriver> Chamunks might just be a bad drive then may not have anything to do with cooling
[02:39] <kiaas> I was wondering, is it possible to use an hfs+ partition for /home, during install?
[02:39] <chamunks> allandee_, yeah I dont really want to believe thats the case yet I'm thinking it might have been the previous host computer to this drive may have corrupted data and im just being paranoid.
[02:39] <Naildriver> I have a stack of bad hdd's here about 1.5 feet tall lol
[02:39] <chamunks> Naildriver, the previous host computer wasnt exactly the ideal environment too.
[02:40] <Anom01y> how do I burn burnable dvd's in Ubuntu ?
[02:40] <somsip> Anom01y: brasero
[02:40] <Anom01y> actually nm
[02:40] <Anom01y> ok thanks
[02:40] <chamunks> Anom01y, depends on  what your burning. but brasero
[02:40] <Anom01y> a live-cd chalcedony on a bootable dvd
[02:40] <Anom01y> if possible
[02:40] <allandee_> chamunks: ;)  the mechanical failure rate of hdds are ridiculously high though
[02:40] <chalcedony> :)
[02:40] <Naildriver> Chamunks I've cleaned up some pretty bad comps before
[02:41] <Naildriver> Allandee how do I decide which drive to put grub on?
[02:41] <somsip> Anom01y: brasero will do that (works for me) but there are other options
[02:41] <chamunks> Anom01y, that should work.  in all honnesty it should just ask you when you click on it the autorun / file associations are getting really well done in ubuntu now.
[02:41] <allandee_> Naildriver: the first bootsector of the primary boot-device in your bios
[02:41] <chamunks> allandee_, oh how i know that far too well.  to make matters worse... its a seagate..
[02:41] <w3bcrawler> do you have to  know  a packages exact name to get it in apt-get? i don't see a way to query/search the repository with it
[02:41] <Naildriver> I know which one I don't want it on but the other two I guess don't really matter or should I put it on the same as the win 7 drive
[02:42] <Naildriver> that should be the sata drive then
[02:42] <allandee_> chamunks: you have a Maxtor bastard child!
[02:42] <chalcedony> i downloaded a font (on ubuntu 10.04) how do i get it to show up in fonts in libre office?
[02:42] <larie> allandee_: writev(6, [{"-\0\21\0\32\0@\0025\0@\2-misc-fixed-medium-r"..., 76}, {NULL, 0}, {"", 0}], 3) = 76
[02:42] <chamunks> Naildriver, do you have any idea if theres something better than rsync for pulling this data from the drive?
[02:42] <wrtiii> What is the best method to setup remote access to a 11.04 server installation.  I just completed a fresh install and would prefer to do all my work from the comfort of my own laptop rather than standing over a tiny table in the corner where I have my server placed.
[02:42] <allandee_> I'd burn it rather than chill it
[02:42] <chamunks> allandee_, ..... are you kidding me...
[02:42] <larie> allandee_: i found that in strace when printing
[02:42] <P`AWAY> Guys, I created a partition on the Windows 7 to install the ubuntu, but when i will install the ubunt don´t detect this partition, what is it ?
[02:43] <chamunks> allandee_, maxtor has never been in my good books either...
[02:43] <larie> allandee_: and that for bold writev(6, [{"-\0\23\0\31\0@\2=\0\22\0-misc-fixed-bold-r-s"..., 84}, {NULL, 0}, {"", 0}], 3) = 84
[02:43] <chamunks> allandee_, bahh humbug
[02:43] <Naildriver> Chamunks I used a recovery program I downloaded once when I had a drive failing but don't remember what it was now..
[02:43] <Naildriver> Mostly I just back up and throw drives away..
[02:43] <larie> allandee_: "urxvt.font:     xft:and 2-misc-fixed-medium-r,pixelsize=9" doesn't work
[02:43] <chamunks> Naildriver, yeah I'm in the same boat.
[02:44] <Naildriver> I have more bad WD drives than any other
[02:44] <chamunks> Naildriver, I'm migrating everything to a 10 TB NAS running ZFS+2 array
[02:44] <allandee_> larie: weird with a null-terminator at those places, which editor did you use to edit the .xdefaults?
[02:44] <w3bcrawler> do you have to  know  a packages exact name to get it in apt-get? i don't see a way to query/search the repository for something
[02:44] <larie> allandee_: nano
[02:44] <allandee_> hm
[02:44] <chamunks> Naildriver, I've just been avoiding pulling/sorting through most of this drives data as it has alot of bad / good memories on it to boot.
[02:44] <hehe> hh
[02:45] <larie> allandee_: that is wrong: xft:2-misc-fixed-medium-r,pixelsize=9
[02:45] <allandee_> paste that line again, exactly as it appears
[02:46] <cmanns> So I got ubuntu to netboot
[02:46] <cmanns> enter on install, blank. no network activity it seems
[02:46] <chamunks> allandee_, hence why I've switched entirely to low powered western digital green drives now low use low heat low power all of which should defend my data fairly effectively.  All running on asus hardware with a Certified Corsair PSU.
[02:46] <Naildriver> Chamunks I always keep the data I want on a separate drive and keep it backed up
[02:46] <chamunks> allandee_, the only part of my NAS server that scares me is the OCZ ram I have in it.
[02:46] <larie> allandee_: what line?
[02:46] <Naildriver> I get so tired of hdd fails
[02:47] <allandee_> chamunks: and how do y ou account for (inevitable) failure
[02:47] <chamunks> Naildriver, should spend a grand on a nas like me than lol.  ZFS is as close to failproof as one system can get.
[02:47] <larie> allandee_: http://dpaste.com/586014/plain/
[02:47] <allandee_> larie: the one with the font directive
[02:47] <chamunks> Naildriver, I can pump a shotgun shell into one of the drives from my nas and still have all of my data.
[02:47] <larie> allandee_: urxvt.font: xft:2-misc-fixed-medium-r,pixelsize=9
[02:48] <Naildriver> I'm gonna get me one of them big ole' SSD to keep all the stuff I really want safe
[02:48] <chamunks> allandee_, running ZFS
[02:48] <chamunks> Naildriver, Just make sure that the SSD isnt manufactured by OCZ...
[02:48] <Naildriver> Chamunks yeah they  make some nice stuff
[02:48] <allandee_> larie: no, that doesn help, unless you find the line where it fails to read your font directive, and the subsequent attempts at reading them in, which is kind of hard to catch
[02:48] <allandee_> ah
[02:49] <allandee_> but did you try the old style directive?
[02:49] <Naildriver> my kid has an 8 gig sandisk flash drive thats been through the washer and dryer twice and it still works lol
[02:49] <chamunks> Naildriver, OCZ ... meh the sort of do... they subcontract all of their manufacturing to different places (lowest bidders) so take that as you will.
[02:50] <chamunks> Naildriver, the next SSD that I buy will not be OCZ its certainly going to either be Corsair or IBM business class.
[02:50] <allandee_>   -*-fixed-medium-*-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[02:50] <wrtiii> What is the difference between \ apt-get install ssh vs. apt-get install openssh \  I want to use putty to connect to my linux server from my laptop. I do not need to connect to anything from the server.  So I guess my question would be what is the difference between ssh and openssh?
[02:50] <Naildriver> Chamunks I have no idea what I'm going to get yet need to do more research and also gonna wait awhile to see more reviews over time
[02:51] <allandee_> wrtiii: nothing that you should notice
[02:51] <chamunks> Naildriver, well TBH I've been chatting with many other professionals about it and they all say that corsair generally guarantee's their stuff for a reason.
[02:51] <wrtiii> allandee_: So I should just flip a coin as to which install command I should use? :)
[02:51] <allandee_> wrtiii: openssh is preferred for reasons that are intangible for that purpose
[02:52] <chamunks> Naildriver, but IBM is generally also a fairly good name and they usually contract their work accordingly.
[02:52] <allandee_> wrtiii: that works ;)
[02:52] <chamunks> wrtiii, Openssh
[02:52] <Naildriver> Chamunks well  hopefully its because they are good
[02:52] <usertwo> i am trying to create a usb startup disk using the menu commands, but when i come to install is says 'unknown system file configuration'.
[02:53] <chamunks> wrtiii, I would imagine that ssh itself is just a symbolic link to the openssh package. as openssh is developed by the openbsd guys and they generally keep their stuff pretty well locked down.
[02:53] <chamunks> Naildriver, well its not like they are acer...
[02:53] <usertwo> i tried looking online but firefox keeps crashing. need to install the new ubuntu!
[02:54] <larie> allandee_: no! i pasted strace that i did without font set
[02:54] <allandee_> chamunks: ssh is a protocol, there are different implementors with different goals and ideologies,  all of which makes no difference to the casual user, imo
[02:54] <larie> allandee_: so i know which font is default
[02:54] <allandee_> larie: oh!  I'm re-reading
[02:54] <chamunks> Naildriver, I've seen their PSU's go through some pretty rigerous testing.  Also last year when Corsair and OCZ ended up shipping a line of drives with similar defective chips Corsair contacted all of their customers to say it was recalled where OCZ wouldn't mention it unless you were upset about the issue.
[02:54] <usertwo> usb not registering now! what is cl for mounting a usb?
[02:54] <Nitax> in an SSH public key, does the user@systemName at the end of the key even matter?
[02:55] <Naildriver> Chamunks thats not very nice of them I don't like companies that do that
[02:55] <chamunks> allandee_, this is very true but to go with the reccomendations of most people it would be openssh all the way.
[02:55] <allandee_> larie: fixed mold semi condensed?
[02:55] <wrtiii> Ok so ifconfig to confirm my ip address, Is it difficult to lock my server into a static ip from my router?
[02:55] <allandee_> chamunks: true
[02:55] <chamunks> allandee_, I would imagine that different implementations would be for system requirements mainly.
[02:56] <chamunks> Naildriver, But this is nothing that I can confirm for myself
[02:56] <allandee_> chamunks: I'd argue that the differences are about ideology
[02:56] <allandee_> technically they are very similar
[02:56] <emma> any of you know how to convert a .dv made in kinto into an .avi that can be used on YouTube?
[02:56] <hashitish> szal: i can now try  a python program to do what i want in there heh
[02:56] <larie> allandee_: what? :)
[02:57] <chamunks> Naildriver, all that I can confirm is I only run Corsair psu's because everyone that I've spoken too that have prooven themselves to be biased towards selling me good hardware vs expensive hardware have all said corsair PSU's hands down
[02:57] <chamunks> Naildriver, and OCZ ram the only times that I've ever bought it I've had issues with it every time.  Bad ram right out of the box and I think Corsair Certifies their ram.
[02:57] <marriedman624> so I'm trying to set up dual boot of 9.10 on windows vista machine, how do I set up a 25 GB ubuntu partition while leaving the windows partition?
[02:57] <chamunks> allandee_, that could also be another contributing factor hehe.
[02:58] <Naildriver> Chamunks its nice when they take the time to certify things.. I hate opening a box and then finding out that something is DOA
[02:58] <jmcantrell> if i want to try out xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, is it easily uninstalled if i want to go back?
[02:58] <chamunks> allandee_, we wouldn't be human after all if we didn't disagree with one another from time to time.
[02:59] <chamunks> Naildriver, but again I cant vouch for Corsair's ram as I have no personal experience with it as its usually out of my price range, but computer techs I speak too all seem to speak of it as if it were the holy grail of ram.
[02:59] <allandee_> larie: let me recount my understanding; you 1) stripped all defaulting of fonts, 2) ran a call-trace of urxvt 3) deducted the default font based on the last entry in the trace (presumably because it was the last significant entry in the trace)?
[02:59] <Dorioman> join /#dhmn
[02:59] <allandee_> chamunks: certainly!
[02:59] <marriedman624> if i set up partition of 25 GB and the rest says FREE SPACE, is it going to format the entire hard drive and delete the existing windows data?
[03:00] <allandee_> chamunks:  which is why I don't want to suggest that one implementation is better than the other ;)
[03:00] <chamunks> Naildriver, I agree entirely.   I'm a total fan of these three companies and most certainly would eat anything they fed me and they are Logitech Corsair and Asus.  Never had any real complaints about any of them.
[03:00] <allandee_> chamunks: or that one linux distro is better than the other
[03:00] <larie> allandee_: yes ;)
[03:00] <Naildriver> I usually use Kingston ram more in my price range too unless someone is running a sale
[03:00] <Doubleplus> what  does it mean when someone puts a # in front of their command?
[03:00] <chamunks> allandee_, mmm it all depends on what you wish to focus on... Although touching on that mentality almost borderlines aligning linux with religions and I dont wanna go that far haha
[03:01] <chamunks> allandee_, But choice is always good as it breeds security through complexity.
[03:01] <larie> allandee_: last but one line appeared when bold prompt appeared
[03:01] <larie> allandee_: last line appeared when i typed with regular font
[03:02] <Guest29909> 神马情况？
[03:02] <allandee_> larie: right! that be one of the traditonal representations of fonts then, and so if the Xserver/wm would have only read your f-ing "-*-fixed-medium-*-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" then y ou could have played with it
[03:02] <allandee_> with xfontsel
[03:02] <larie> allandee_: what? $)
[03:03] <chamunks> Naildriver, well if you ever think of the software that you'd reccomend for pulling this data off my drive to my server I'll gladly take it into consideration but in the mean time I think I'll build an Rsync command and be at it maybe I'll copy the smaller directories first.
[03:03] <Guest29909> No Chinese ?
[03:03] <somsip> !zh | Guest29909
[03:03] <jmcantrell> if i want to try out xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, is it easily uninstalled if i want to go back?
[03:03] <Naildriver> Chamunks I'd have to do a search for it again.. I can't remember the name of it
[03:04] <Naildriver> I'm still trying to get  my comp to boot again lol
[03:04] <allandee_> chamunks: well, in the concrete case, the OpenBSD crowd believes that they achieve superior inpenetrability through publishing code, and have really brilliant people constantly hammering the code, trying to break it
[03:04] <somsip> chamunks: if using rsync, and you want to not tax the drive, look into ionice: http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg26361.html
[03:04] <allandee_> while one other camp believes in publishing specs to a wide audience, and being very clear about any anticipated weaknesses.
[03:05] <chamunks> somsip, thank you I will look into that immediately.
[03:05] <allandee_> like, algorithmical weaknesses that could be exploited
[03:05] <somsip> chamunks: yr welcome. Might not be helpful, but the thread looked applicable
[03:05] <usertwo> the md5sum checks out so the file is ok. why is the usb startup not beaing craeted? how do i do this from the command line?
[03:05] <chamunks> I do appreciate transparency that is for certain.
[03:05] <allandee_> I don't subscribe particularly to any camp, just to have that said
[03:06] <chalcedony> so, where does ubuntu install fonts?
[03:06] <chamunks> allandee_, I do appeciate transparency that is for certain. It breeds the open source solutions to things.
[03:06] <szal> /usr/share/fonts/ (system-wide), ~/.fonts/ (per-user), and some more places#
[03:07] <chamunks> allandee_, I agree to the minimal alignment to any particular camp
[03:07] <DasEi> !fonts | chalcedony
[03:07] <marriedman624> I'm setting up dual boot of 9.10 on Vista machine.......if i set up partition of 25 GB and the rest says FREE SPACE, is it going to format the entire hard drive and delete the existing windows data?
[03:07] <Dude22> Can anyone tell me why dpkg can't make a backup link when run from recovery mode?  This is driving me nuts
[03:07] <ls3> does anyone have a 3ware 9650se raid card working on ubuntu? I have 11.04 and can't seem to even find a driver that will work.
[03:07] <chamunks> allandee_, hence why pretty much every system in my network is running a different OS.
[03:07] <chalcedony> found it! now how to get Libre office to see it
[03:08] <chamunks> allandee_, it all matters what works best for what.
[03:08] <chamunks> Naildriver, not to worry I'll poke my way through I've enjoyed the conversation more than the persuit anyways.
[03:08] <allandee_> chamunks: cool ;)  the idea that open-source leads to transparency, I think, is kind of misguided though.
[03:08] <usertwo> anyone know how to creat a usb startup disk using the cl?
[03:09] <Naildriver> Chamunks thanks it has been nice chatting
[03:09] <allandee_> chamunks: the contents are not accessable to most people
[03:09] <chamunks> allandee_, that concerns me as well sometimes.  Although things have been improoving over the years.  I think that one day there will be a public review system that will have no alignments what so ever and will be adaptable to every situation.
[03:10] <szal> chalcedony: what font are we talking about?
[03:10] <chalcedony> szal, :~/.fonts$ ls
[03:10] <chalcedony> vivaldi_2.ttf  vivaldmn.TTF  vivante.ttf
[03:10] <wrtiii> It's as easy as that... edit the interfaces file change inet to static add my address, netmask, broadcast, network and gateway ips. reboot and now my server will always use the specified ip?
[03:10] <chamunks> allandee_, well maybe i used some bold language in that last one but it would be nice.
[03:10] <allandee_> allandee_: and so, trusted institutions - the "church" in Raymond's manifest about open source, is one that might be voted in by people who don't know specifics
[03:11] <szal> chalcedony: restart LO (close all documents), then you should see it
[03:11] <jwiggins> I have a AWUS036NH USB wireless adapter and whenever I plug it into my laptop I get "hub 2-1:1.0: over-current change on port 1" running ubuntu 11.04 any ideas? It works fine on my PC wondering if this is a voltage issue.
[03:11] <chalcedony> szal, ok i'll try that
[03:12] <chamunks> allandee_, hence why the voting system will have to be weighted.
[03:12] <allandee_> Eric S. Raymond btw, for the innocents - "the cathedral and the bazaar" about open source
[03:12] <derek__> hey, does anyone know how to mount a WBFS drive?
[03:12] <marriedman624> I'm setting up dual boot of 9.10 on Vista machine.......if i set up partition of 25 GB and the rest says FREE SPACE, is it going to format the entire hard drive and delete the existing windows data?
[03:12] <allandee_> chamunks: not that is bold
[03:12] <allandee_> chamunks: weighted, how?
[03:12] <allandee_> now*
[03:13] <allandee_> marriedman624: do you know what is on your partitions otherwise?
[03:13] <allandee_> marriedman624: are you confident that the 25gb partition is one that you know the contents of?
[03:14] <chamunks> allandee_, well the votes by the proven experienced in a subject will be weighted heavier than those who are the effected by the situation or thing in review.
[03:14] <marriedman624> allandee_: i'm trying to set up the partition, currently there is only 1 partition for the vista installation
[03:14] <marriedman624> do I need to partition the drive first?
[03:14] <marriedman624> via disk manager in windows?
[03:14] <allandee_> chamunks: then that would not be a democracy.  I'm kind of on the line of whether or not that is for the better or not, but by definition, that would not be a democracry.
[03:15] <allandee_> domocracry!
[03:15] <allandee_> I'm giving myself a waffle for the best new-word of the evening.
[03:15] <chamunks> allandee_, but this weight will be transparent so if you were an expert in openssh for example and I was an expert in ssh in general our votes to solve an issue with the SSH standard could be weighted heavier.  but think of the math here.  there will always be more users than experts.
[03:15] <allandee_> or whatever time it is at your place.
[03:15] <jrt05> Does ubuntu have a live dvd? or only CD.
[03:16] <somsip> jrt05: dl the livecd.iso,, burn to DVD. Sorted
[03:16] <allandee_> chamunks: aha!  and in there it lies.
[03:16] <chamunks> allandee_, you will always be able to see where the weight would be it wouldnt necesserily make for anything efficable but it would be almost a Hey half of these votes are by experts and they are very very well proven in this field..
[03:16] <jrt05> somsip, really? you can do that?
[03:16] <wols_> marriedman624: the installer can easily only use the free space
[03:16] <jrt05> Insane
[03:16] <somsip> jrt05: I did it a couple of days ago with another distro, so can't see why not
[03:17] <jrt05> Cool, thanks
[03:17] <usertwo> if i remove the .disk file will it corrupt my usb?
[03:17] <somsip> jrt05: easy :)
[03:17] <marriedman624> wols_: how do i get the installer to pick up how much space is free, it keeps saying all 160 GB is free?
[03:18] <chamunks> allandee_, well its just that numbers dont lie its always the way they are presented.
[03:18] <allandee_> chamunks: unless you're swiss;  I think there is enlightenment about democracy looking at the swiss model for democracy
[03:18] <chamunks> allandee_, I'm glad to be bouncing this idea off someone who isnt favored in my direction or otherwise.
[03:18] <somsip> So...how offtopic will this get... :)
[03:18] <allandee_> chamunks: if you subscribe to the idea that democracy means rule by the people
[03:19] <chamunks> allandee_, I wont pretend to know much about government systems.
[03:19] <Doubleplus> I got Usb_modeswitcher installed but when I put in "# usb_modeswitch -v 1307 -p 1169 -L -I -u -1 " it says L is not a valid option
[03:19] <allandee_> chamunks: because if you have a two to ... I don't know ... eleven?  party parliament
[03:19] <chamunks> allandee_, somsip has a point would you like to move this to ubuntu-offtopic or w/e it is.
[03:19] <somsip> chamunks: thanks,
[03:19] <allandee_> sorry, yes
[03:19] <somsip> bothL thanks
[03:19] <allandee_> I get excited, sorry
[03:20] <chamunks> allandee_, me too haha
[03:20] <chamunks> allandee_, i love polishing my ideas off of others hehe
[03:21] <chalcedony> szal, it's not showing in the freshly reopened writer in either the drop-down or the right click fonts
[03:24] <anadon> hey, I have an UEFI setup by windows and I need to get grub working.  The usual reinstalling isn't working.  Any idea how to get this to work?
[03:24] <Phrogz_> On my ubuntu server I can    curl -I http://localhost:9011/    but I can't    curl -I http://192.168.0.84:9011/    (which is the eth0 IP confirmed by ifconfig); what does this mean?
[03:25] <wrtiii> How often should I check for updates and is this the most appropriate command to do so on my server -- sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:25] <lonewulf`Natty> just wanted to say thanks for all the help w/Natty Narwhal
[03:25] <lonewulf`Natty> took me a couple days, but I've made the switch from xp
[03:25] <lonewulf`Natty> thank you everyone!
[03:25]  * Phrogz_ stands and cheers.
[03:26] <somsip> wrtiii: it depends how concerned/anal you are, and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade is an option. hough I use apt-fast nowadays
[03:26] <lonewulf`Natty> only last major issue, and its not that major, is my mx518 mouse, sens slider not controlling it ect.
[03:26] <lonewulf`Natty> lol Phrogz_
[03:29] <wrtiii> somsip: apt-fast?
[03:30] <willwh> wrtiii: I have no idea what he's talking about
[03:30] <somsip> wrtiii: replacement for apt-get, though I think it's maybe more of a wrapper. Uses multiple sources to dl at once. I live in the middle of nowhere so it helps dl speed a lot. YMMV
[03:30] <willwh> ah :)
[03:31] <willwh> I was going to say - maybe it's just a bash alias for update && upgrade? ;]
[03:31] <somsip> willwh: more so: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818619
[03:31] <somsip> willwh: oh, that link was older thanI expected. The google thing is helpful otherwise
[03:31] <willwh> aye
[03:32] <willwh> somsip: haha: "
[03:32] <willwh> wups
[03:32] <willwh> "
[03:32] <willwh> "Whatever the case, enjoy, and don't use this too often, as it really rapes the package servers."
[03:33] <willwh> fail pasting ;]
[03:33] <somsip> willwh: oh, I didn't see that. Hopefully that was from the early version and it's better now. I only get 400kb/s max, so I don't dfeel I'm raping to harshly
[03:33] <wrtiii> mumble-django says to install apache2 w/ mod_wsgi. the documentation I am working from gives the command sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server  Is the mod_wsgi something I can add in afterwards or do I need to change my initial command?  Is apache2 and libapache2-mod-wsgi seperate installs?
[03:34] <ebb> can anyone help me get my computer running ubuntu to send the picture to my tv
[03:34] <overrider_> I have a weird problem now that i use fluxbox and slim - everytime i open a file with vim i get a session crashed message. I think somehow it is related to dns / that it cannot resolve itself. resolv.conf and hosts look ok though. Any ideas? Doesnt matter which File i open using Vim, i get a message. Other apps as well, such as when i mount something, it says it already is mounted etc.
[03:34] <willwh> wrtiii: libapache2-mod-wsgi depends on apache2
[03:35] <willwh> so it should be installed as a suggested package ;]
[03:35] <willwh> and, sudo apt-get install is fine
[03:35] <WallyJ2K> what keystroke can I hit on a black screen at boot to kill the current X?
[03:35] <willwh> ctlr+alt+ backspace I think
[03:35] <WallyJ2K> tried that one
[03:35] <ChogyDan> alt+sysrq+k
[03:36] <JoeR1> Ubunutu has my refresh rate locked at 50hz in 1920x1080, I would very much so like to get this set to 60hz, any suggestions?
[03:36] <willwh> overrider_: tail -f /var/log/syslog?
[03:36] <cob> WallyJ2K, ctrl+alt+backspace should kill x... failing that try ctrl+alt+F1 and login and do "skill -9 <yourusername>"
[03:36] <willwh> JoeR1: gfx card / drivers? :)
[03:36] <wrtiii> So instead of "sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" I could just use "sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-wsgi php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server"  ??
[03:36] <WallyJ2K> it must be a different problem, because no keystroke does anything.
[03:37] <ChogyDan> WallyJ2K: did you try what I said?
[03:37] <shiro_> hi.
[03:37] <WallyJ2K> The error that shows in the log on Recovery Mode is Fatal Server Error: Server Is Already Active For Display 0
[03:37] <shiro_> I can't drag windows on Ubuntu Natty.
[03:37] <shiro_> What's going on?
[03:37] <willwh> WallyJ2K: it iis right alt key + sys rq + K
[03:37] <WallyJ2K> ChogyDan - Yes
[03:37] <JoeR1> geforce 9400 - Nvidia driver I do not know the number of
[03:37] <willwh> wrtiii: yes
[03:38] <Toph2> JoeR1,,, system>preferences>monitor settings won't do it?
[03:38] <willwh> JoeR1: are you using Nvidia drivers? (i.e. resitrcted? :)
[03:38] <JoeR1> toph, no it will not nor will using the Nvidia utility
[03:38] <wolfeh> I'm using a Synpatic Touchpad, but I attached a USB mouse. I still cannot drag windows. Please help.
[03:38] <larie> allandee_: what should i do with fontsel?
[03:38] <belorix> Hi, trying to install ubuntu 11.04, but i cant get it to resize my NTFS partition even under Gparted.. Any ideas?
[03:38] <JoeR1> willwh - yes, that is all that Ubuntu offered me for this card
[03:38] <P`AWAY> Guys, I created a partition in Windows 7 to install the ubuntu on dual boot, but when i will install the ubunt don´t detect this partition, what is this ?
[03:39] <willwh> P`AWAY: what kind of partition and what did you make it with?
[03:39] <willwh> JoeR1: hmm, not sure - you say you can't launch nvidia-settings?
[03:39] <WallyJ2K> Thanks for the suggestions, but the hard drive light doesn't even blink when I hit any keystroke
[03:39] <willwh> JoeR1: what does it say when you try to launch it from a ter,m
[03:39] <willwh> ?
[03:40] <wolfeh> Is someone going to help me?
[03:40] <WallyJ2K> which i would guess it would do if it is actually responding
[03:40] <willwh> wolfeh: that sounds totally crazy
[03:40] <willwh> you can't drag windows?
[03:40] <P`AWAY> willwh i created a nfs partition, i make it on the disk manager of Windows 7 x64
[03:40] <wolfeh> willwh: correct.
[03:40] <wolfeh> I can drag icons, however.
[03:40] <willwh> you're using vanilla ubuntu, gnome?
[03:40] <JoeR1> willwh - No, I said I can and it allows me to select a 60hz refresh rate but it doesn't actually produce a 60hz rate
[03:40] <willwh> did you install compiz or anything?
[03:40] <wolfeh> COmpiz, yes.
[03:41] <willwh> so - not vanilla install then
[03:41] <wolfeh> Do I need to remove compiz?
[03:41] <JoeR1> wiilwh - you mean launch the nvidia utility from terminal?
[03:41] <WallyJ2K> I can go back into recovery mode and get the complete error from the log. Would that help?
[03:41] <willwh> well - you might want to dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[03:41] <willwh> JoeR1: yes
[03:41] <willwh> and then apply the settings
[03:41] <willwh> and see what output you get in the term
[03:41] <willwh> :)
[03:41] <willwh> WallyJ2K: just switch tty
[03:42] <JoeR1> willwh - To be honest I don't know the file name of the Nvidia utility
[03:42] <willwh> ctrl+alt + f2
[03:42] <willwh> JoeR1: open a terminal, type 'nvid' and hit tab.
[03:42] <willwh> I am pretty sure it's nvidia-settings
[03:42] <WallyJ2K> ctrl-alt-F2 does nothing. I might be the right thing to change tty, I'm just saying my screen is still blank
[03:43] <Phrogz> curl http://localhost:9011/  works, but  curl http://192.168.0.84/ (my LAN IP) fails; what on Ubuntu might be preventing my own machine from accessing itself via ethernet?
[03:43] <willwh> WallyJ2K: it sounds like you broke X completely?
[03:43] <Phrogz> er, :9011 on the second example, too.
[03:43] <willwh> what were you trying to do?
[03:43] <wolfeh> willwh: didn't do anything
[03:43] <willwh> Phrogz: I don't know.
[03:43] <WallyJ2K> willwh - How do I fix it from recovery mode. I can get onto a desktop in recovery mode
[03:43] <belorix> Hi, trying to install ubuntu 11.04, but i cant get it to resize my NTFS partition even under Gparted.. Any ideas?
[03:44] <wolfeh> willwh: I can drag icons fine, just not windows
[03:44] <ChogyDan> belorix: have you tried mounting it in windows?
[03:44] <WallyJ2K> Can I reinstall or reinitialize X?
[03:44] <willwh> WallyJ2K: I would suggest, dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[03:44] <WallyJ2K> ok
[03:44] <P`AWAY> Guys, I created a partition in Windows 7 disk manager to install the ubuntu on dual boot, but when i try install the ubunt don´t detect this partition, what is this ?
[03:44] <WallyJ2K> I'll try that from within recovery mode
[03:44] <willwh> wolfeh: have you looked through the compiz settings?
[03:44] <wrtiii> It looks like "apt-get install mumble-django" install a lot of the stuff already?  List of requirments for mumble-django is here "http://mumble-django.org/docs/en" the setup documentation I am using says to use "sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server"  --  I have a feeling these two guides are going to begin conflicting.  How on earth do I track all the installs
[03:44] <wrtiii> and what I need and don't need and what needs to be configured etc.  mumble-django wants to install something like 46 new packages.   ?? Help, lol :)
[03:44] <willwh> P`AWAY: what kind of partition did you make?
[03:44] <wolfeh> willwh: where?
[03:44] <Dude22> Can anyone shed some light on why I can't reinstall "findutils" from recovery mode?
[03:45] <JoeR1> willwh - I opened N_settings from terminal while logged in as root - give me a moment and I will see if it has been successful
[03:45] <Dude22> I keep getting the error "unable to make backup link of './usr/bin/find' before installing new version: Operation not permitted"
[03:45] <Dude22> My system won't boot until I can update initrd ... please help
[03:45] <willwh> wolfeh: you sdaid you installed compiz?
[03:45] <P`AWAY> willwh i created a nfs partition, i make it on the disk manager of Windows 7 x64
[03:46] <willwh> P`AWAY: I don't know :)
[03:46] <ParkerR> uccess!
[03:46] <willwh> < afk 5.
[03:46] <ParkerR> *Success!
[03:46] <belorix> ChogyDan: im in windows on the machine im trying to install it on, however if i reboot into the installer, ubuntu picks up my NTFS but doesnt give me any option to resize it
[03:47] <P`AWAY> ok tkz
[03:47] <P`AWAY> Guys, I created a partition in Windows 7 disk manager to install the ubuntu on dual boot, but when i try install the ubunt don´t detect this partition, what is this ?
[03:47] <ParkerR> I just got a total linux noob through installing ndiswrapper and ndisgtk on a computer with no internet connection. Wouldnt be so bad normally be he really had a hard time
[03:48] <Dude22> ParkerR: congrts... what do you know about recovery mode? ... kinda stuck here myself :)
[03:49] <ChogyDan> belorix: just a guess, but maybe there is an extra package that you need to install to get ntfs support from gparted?  Maybe just use a windows repartitioner if you want to resize
[03:49] <JoeR1> willwh - I am unsure if that has fixed it, I will come back later if it has not, thanks for the help
[03:49] <JoeR1> oh wait,
[03:49] <daffy_> try gparted with a live disc
[03:49] <WallyJ2K> noob question. - In recovery mode, how do I switch to the root user?
[03:49] <ParkerR> WallyJ2K, su root
[03:49] <daffy_> dan
[03:49] <Dude22> WallyJ2k: you already are the root user in recovrey mode
[03:50] <ParkerR> Ahh
[03:50] <belorix> ChogyDan: well yes, but if im installing from a live CD can i install the "extra" package?
[03:50] <ParkerR> Ok
[03:50] <WallyJ2K> what is the password on a standard install for root?
[03:51] <WallyJ2K> Dude22, in recovery mode it still gave me the opportunity to login as the user I created
[03:51] <ChogyDan> belorix: ntfsprogs
[03:51] <WallyJ2K> I haven't used the root user since I started troubleshooting my regular boot issue
[03:51] <Phrogz> willwh: FYI, the issue was that my web server was listening on 127.0.0.1:9011 and not 0.0.0.0:9011; http://serverfault.com/questions/297415/why-can-i-fetch-from-web-server-via-loopback-but-not-ip
[03:51] <belorix> ChogyDan: and that can be installed even though im using a live CD?
[03:52] <ChogyDan> I don't know?!
[03:52] <ph03n1x> hehehee
[03:52] <ph03n1x> hey people
[03:52] <Dude22> WallyJ2K: Ahh... difference between recovery and rescue.  Have you tried your own password  for root pwd?
[03:52] <WallyJ2K> dude22 - yes
[03:52] <WallyJ2K> no dice
[03:53] <ParkerR> WallyJ2K, do sudo passwd
[03:53] <ParkerR> That will set a root password
[03:53] <Dude22> Ahhh... I remember that from a long time ago
[03:53] <semi-afk> !noroot
[03:53] <ph03n1x> toor
[03:53] <wrtiii> So what happens if I do:  apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-wsgi    ???
[03:53] <daffy_> Chogdan if you have to repartition cant you use gparted on a live disc?
[03:54] <ph03n1x> or admin
[03:54] <zooko> Dear people of #ubuntu. Every now and then I manage to break my desktop, and then when I want to fix it by using the internet, I remember that network manager doesn't connect to my wireless network unless my desktop starts up properly.
[03:54] <WallyJ2K> ParkerR - That worked. Thanks!
[03:54] <ParkerR> WallyJ2K, np
[03:54] <zooko> And then I spend a long time figuring out how to set up wireless networking without network manager.
[03:54] <ParkerR> zooko, ifconfig ftw! XD
[03:54] <zooko> Maybe this time I could instead learn, possibly from you, how to tell network manager to DO YOUR THING even though the Ubuntu Desktop is not (entirely) working.
[03:55] <zooko> ParkerR: yeah... that's the way I've done it so far.
[03:55] <zooko> I just now tried sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart, but this didn't appear to make it do anything useful, and "sudo NetworkManager" doesn't either.
[03:56] <daffy_>  
[03:57] <Dude22> Can someone help me with recovery mode . I'm trying to reinstall findutils and I'm getting the following error:  "unable to make backup link of './usr/bin/find' before installing new version: Operation not permitted."
[03:57] <WallyJ2K> ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common. Chose "Anybody". Restarting
[03:57] <zooko> ParkerR: thanks for the help.
[03:57] <DeltaWhy> how difficult is it to run the same install of ubuntu as a dual-boot and through virtualbox?
[03:57] <ParkerR> zooko, np
[03:58] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: using "real" partitions/drives through virtualbox is most likely not recommended
[03:59] <daffy_> http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/3.1/LFS-BOOK-3.1-HTML/chapter06/findutils.html
[03:59] <WallyJ2K> blinking cursor, hard drive light blinking, xubunutu logo, HD light stops blinking, black screen... nada... It's hanging on something at that point...
[03:59] <ParkerR> DeltaWhy, vmware supports it but I dont know how great it works
[03:59] <daffy_> dude22 have you looked at http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/3.1/LFS-BOOK-3.1-HTML/chapter06/findutils.html
[03:59] <DeltaWhy> what's the problem with using a real partition? pretty sure virtualbox supports it.
[03:59] <ParkerR> And vmware players is free for personal use
[04:00] <ParkerR> *player's
[04:00] <ParkerR> *player
[04:00] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: that said, while it isn't recommended, it does support it but doesn't expose the required configuration through the UI
[04:01] <DeltaWhy> I don't mind tinkering with configs - I was more concerned about how ubuntu will respond to having a completely different hardware setup on every other  boot
[04:01] <ParkerR> Umm usually if it has been installed to a partiton it has been configured to work with that computer. Running it in any VM is like running it on a different computer
[04:01] <daffy_> isnt vm's amount of space designated at the beginning when you set up
[04:01] <WallyJ2K> willwh - Ran the reconfigure, still get the black screen just after the xubuntu logo. No keystrokes seem to do anything
[04:01] <ParkerR> daffy_, yes but you can tell it to use a partition
[04:02] <P`AWAY> Guys, I created a partition in Windows 7 disk manager to install the ubuntu on dual boot, but when i try install the ubunt don´t detect this partition, what is this ?
[04:02] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: ubuntu probably won't mind too much unless you have some esoteric hardware, your video settings may be an issue if you are using a custom xorg.conf
[04:02] <Dude22> daffy_: both "apt-get --reinstall install findutils" ... and... "aptitude reinstall findutils" ... die when it tries to create that backup link of find.  I'm sure it's because I'm in rescue mode, but my system won't boot until I update initrd and findutils is corrupt which is causing me problems updating the boot images (sorry, long story)
[04:02] <DeltaWhy> i'm using a thinkpad x220 with a fingerprint reader... I suppose I could disable it since gksu doesn't like it anyway
[04:03] <DeltaWhy> other than that I think it's a standard webcam, intel graphics and wireless, etc.
[04:03] <Dude22> daffy_: I even tried to pass through a force-all to dpkg... and dpkg still failed when it tried to create the backup link
[04:04] <daffy_> http://www.softpanorama.org/VM/conversion_of_harddrive_partition_into_virtual.shtml
[04:04] <zooko> Sigh. You know, I needed to reflash this awesome little smartbook anyway.
[04:04] <Dude22> I'm trying to follow the solution here... which sounds like exactly my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15296/kernel-panic-line-61-cant-open-scripts-functions
[04:04] <daffy_> Try looking at this. I am not the best with vm
[04:04] <zooko> (EfikaMX -- it is *sweet*! It comes with Ubuntu, and it costs a mere USD 200.)
[04:04] <wols_> DeltaWhy: two places where it could be a problem: booting/mounting filesystems and if you need an xorg.conf file for your videocard (not needed for intel)
[04:04] <wols_> but it's very much doable
[04:05] <ParkerR> daffy_, no need to really convert. I think most support booting straight from the partiton
[04:05] <daffy_> dude have you backed up all your files
[04:05] <daffy_> ok
[04:05] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: about the physical disk access, one reason it isn't recommended is for example: what happens if you are using the VM and then the host operating system decides to try to access the filesystem for the disk in question
[04:06] <DeltaWhy> I didn't think win7 could access ext2 fs
[04:06] <DeltaWhy> without extra drivers which I don't plan to install
[04:06] <wols_> DeltaWhy: it can via 3rd party drivers
[04:06] <Dude22> daffy_: not really... I don't like where this is going :)
[04:06] <wols_> and it's not just that: you will need a special grub installation since installing it to /dev/sda only won't work for your partition when you boot it via Vbox
[04:06] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: but, again, as you probably already found, virtualbox does have support for raw disk access
[04:06] <ParkerR> DeltaWhy, they cant but vmware and vbox have the abilities
[04:06] <zooko> But it is kind of embarassing to reflash when I can't turn on wireless. Better drop down to iwconfig/ifconfig first and get wireless working again first...
[04:07] <WallyJ2K> So the Startup Log has the "Server is already active for display 0" error followed by "WW xf86CloseConsole - KDSETMODE failed, same with VT_GETMODE and VT_GETSTATE.  Not sure what this is, but seems to be video related
[04:08] <daffy_> im not the best at bash but i keed everything I find important on a passport harddrive. I learned to dop this after i made a few "mistakes"
[04:08] <DeltaWhy> so if grub and /etc/fstab identify partitions by UUID, should I be ok?
[04:09] <wols_> DeltaWhy: no. as I told you installing grub to sda is not good for your setup
[04:09] <DeltaWhy> I think I just picked the default which is in the partition, right?
[04:10] <justdave> I have a desktop computer that I've had on wifi for a while, and I'm switching it to wired ethernet.  How do I tell the wifi to stop automatically connecting? (or where do I go to make it forget the network it's been associating to?)
[04:10] <justdave> (it's running the current LTS release)
[04:10] <justdave> (10.04)
[04:11] <wols_> justdave: nm-applet normally
[04:12] <DeltaWhy> what about installing the guest os tools - will that cause problems when I run it as dual-boot?
[04:12] <justdave> wols_: when I try to start that applet, I get an error in console about "Connection :1.69 is not allowed to run this service" or something like that
[04:13] <wols_> justdave: exact error message please
[04:13] <wols_> DeltaWhy: no
[04:13] <wols_> justdave: gksudo nm-applet
[04:14] <justdave> aha, that worked
[04:14] <DeltaWhy> will swap partitions cause a problem?
[04:15] <ParkerR> Shouldnt
[04:15] <ParkerR> As long as you allocate enough ram for the machine
[04:15] <quiescens> well, make sure you aren't using the same swap twice
[04:15] <intelmeth> anyone else missing /etc/init.d/squid? found this forum post but no follow up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614776&page=2
[04:15]  * intelmeth thought i would ask here as I didn't want to necro-post
[04:16] <quiescens> make sure you don't boot or run anything that automatically activates all available swap areas
[04:16] <wols_> intelmeth: it probably uses upstart
[04:16] <DeltaWhy> i assume hibernating is a no-no?
[04:16] <wols_> quiescens: why not, if ubuntu is his only linux installation on the system
[04:17] <wols_> DeltaWhy: shouldn't be a problem either
[04:17] <quiescens> hibernating your host shouldn't affect too much
[04:17] <quiescens> wols_: I don't know that they only have one linux installation, I'm just saying to make sure that they don't use the same swap area more than once
[04:17] <ParkerR> Usuallysaving the state with the VM software is better than hibernating in the OS
[04:18] <Dude22> Question: I have a file that is owned by user "122" and group "pulse" ... I cannot chown it back to root, even as su.  It says operation not permitted.  ** How can I force the chown?
[04:18] <wols_> ParkerR: don't have any problems with it
[04:18] <quiescens> oh yes, don't save the state and then accidentally boot the "real" system
[04:18] <ParkerR> wols_, ahhok
[04:18] <wols_> Dude22: what file and is it in use?
[04:18] <DeltaWhy> what about hibernating in the vm and then booting for real?
[04:18] <justdave> wols_: if I just tell it to disconnect there, will that make it not automatically connect to it again in the future?
[04:18] <justdave> (it's been automatically connecting to it at reboot)
[04:19] <Dude22> it's /usr/bin/find ... I'm in rescue mode
[04:19] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: not a great idea
[04:19] <wols_> DeltaWhy: all these things at most crash your ubuntu. which forces you to reboot
[04:19] <wols_> justdave: since I don't like or use nm, I don't know. probably
[04:19] <DeltaWhy> yeah i figured that would cause problems
[04:19] <quiescens> DeltaWhy: when you boot the real system it will most likely act as though it crashed and boot from scratch and have to do filesystem checks
[04:20] <Dude22> wols_: how would I tell if it's in use in rescue mode (not sure why it would be in use right now)
[04:20] <wols_> Dude22: what file is it? and lsof and fuser help to see which files are open
[04:20] <DeltaWhy> ok well I think that's everything I need to know
[04:20] <Dude22> wols_: it's /usr/bin/find
[04:20] <GhostWolf> hi all, does anyone know without rebooting into bios if theres a way to find what devices i have on sata and ide?
[04:21] <wols_> Dude22: that one hasn't the permissions you describe
[04:21] <wols_> GhostWolf: lshw?
[04:21] <DeltaWhy> guess I'll go try it. thanks everybody!
[04:21] <GhostWolf> wols_, i wasn't think in terminal and forgot about terminal in a way. i don't know much commands in linux
[04:21] <showers> ????
[04:22] <wols_> !cn | showers
[04:22] <showers>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[04:23] <wols_> showers: no leading space
[04:23] <Liquid24> Hello, I kind of screwed up somehow attempting to setup a static ip on my kubuntu 11.04 server pc, i was reading this guide here, http://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Maverick#Set_a_static_IP_address and when i did apt-get remove networking-manager i rebooted and went back online and inside my interfaces file i didnt even have "iface inet eth0 dhcp" in the file, so i proceeded to add in a
[04:23] <Liquid24> eth0 for my static, my router and other pc's on the network can see the box and vice versa, but the kubuntu box cant see on the outside network no inet access.
[04:23] <Dude22> wols_: Huh?  the file /usr/bin/find is owned by user "122" and group "pulse"  I have no idea how that happened ... but I can't reinstall it because I can't touch the file :(
[04:24] <justdave> Liquid24: you're probably missing a default route
[04:24] <Doubleplus> Does anyone know how to use a Cisco AM10 adapter?
[04:24] <Dude22> wols_: any ideas on how to force a chown or otherwise so that I can change hte file
[04:24] <justdave> Liquid24: do you have a gateway set?
[04:24] <wols_> Liquid24: pastebin your current interfaecs file. and you ONLY need to specify your own IP, nothing else. no router and other stuff in there. only settings for your lo and eth0
[04:24] <Liquid24> i really cant paste bin because it has no internet access
[04:25] <larie> allandee_: hey
[04:25] <Dude22> wols_: since I'm in recovery mode there is nobody else on the system so the file is not in use other than if it's in use by the rescue mode ASCII GUI
[04:26] <wols_> Dude22: chattr -iu it
[04:27] <wols_> Liquid24: so what stanzas are in your interfaces file?
[04:27] <Liquid24> pm it?
[04:28] <intelmeth> so um, /etc/init.d/squid does not exist, and sudo service squid complains of unrecognized service (have tried apt-get squid and apt-get squid3)
[04:28] <wols_> if you can pm it you can put it in a pastebin, so no
[04:28] <Liquid24> uhmm what?
[04:29] <Liquid24> i am using two computers
[04:29] <wols_> intelmeth: dpkg -L <squid package(s)> |grep etc
[04:29] <quiescens> intelmeth: what release are you on?
[04:29] <Liquid24> i can type it to you.
[04:29] <intelmeth> 10.10
[04:29] <Liquid24> ok ill do this ill type it into a pastebin and then ill paste here
[04:30] <somsip> Liquid24: you don't have a USB dirve you can copy it over from of-network PC to the networked PC?
[04:30] <intelmeth> sorry /etc/init.d/squid3 is there, does that mean i should be able to 'sudo service squid3 restart;' ?
[04:30] <chamunks> somsip, I dont know if your still around but I'm having issues finding Ionice
[04:30] <Dude22> wols_: that sounded promising ... still no love.  When I try and chown root:root find  .... "operation not permitted"
[04:31] <somsip> chamunks: sorry, I have no knowledge of it other thatwhat I saw on that forum
[04:31] <Liquid24> somsip: i just got finished moving yesterday and im just trying to get the pc's up and running, so atm i cant locate my thumb drive to do that.
[04:31] <somsip> Liquid24: fairy nuff. Just a thought
[04:31] <Dude22> _wols: lsattr find : s a e
[04:31] <WallyJ2K> willwh and others, thanks for all the help. Still battling the blank screen on standard boot. Must sleep now... will work on it more tomorrow. Thanks again all!!!!
[04:31] <wols_> chamunks: ubuntu is case sensitive. and have you searched for ionice in your repos
[04:32] <Liquid24> let me goto pastebin and type what i have in my interfaces file so i can post it here. do the extra typing just for that.
[04:32] <quiescens> intelmeth: squid's start/stop stuff should be in /etc/init/squid.conf
[04:32] <quiescens> intelmeth: which is supposed to work by "sudo service squid start" etc, if its working and properly installed
[04:33] <intelmeth> ok thanks guys, was able to 'sudo service squid3 restart'
[04:33] <wols_> Dude22: disable a maybe? possibly s? check with other binaries in the folder what settings they have?
[04:33] <intelmeth> but not 'sudo service squid restart'
[04:33] <Dude22> wols_:  BRILLIANT ... I cleared the "s" and "a" flags from find and was able to chown... reinstalled findutils now ... sweeet
[04:33] <intelmeth> i.e. after 'sudo apt-get install squid' there are no startup helpers
[04:33] <quiescens> intelmeth: well, squid3 and squid install different versions
[04:34] <intelmeth> but after 'sudo apt-get install squid3' it work
[04:34] <markmental> hello
[04:34] <intelmeth> quiescens: thanks :D
[04:34] <intelmeth> markmental: hello :)
[04:34] <Liquid24> http://pastebin.com/NAbTxqCi
[04:34] <markmental> im just dropping by first time to the irc room :)
[04:34] <quiescens> intelmeth: squid3 is verssion 3.1.6 and squid installs version 2.7
[04:35] <intelmeth> quiescens: cool, wonder why squid (2.7) doesn't install the /etc/init.d stuff?
[04:35] <wols_> Liquid24: looks alright. does your /etc/resolv.conf contain your nameserver? Most probably your router
[04:35] <markmental> i have a question about ubuntu 11.10
[04:36] <Liquid24> yes
[04:36] <quiescens> intelmeth: it won't show up in /etc/init.d it should have a file in /etc/init/squid.conf
[04:36] <wols_> Liquid24: so what is the problem?
[04:36] <Liquid24> cant connect to the internet
[04:36] <markmental> in ubuntu 11.10 will the radiance and ambiance themes be present?
[04:36] <sagaci> markmental: what's the question
[04:36] <Liquid24> cant connect to the outside.
[04:36] <sagaci> markmental: should be
[04:36] <quiescens> intelmeth: squid is using the newer /etc/init style, squid3 uses the older /etc/init.d style
[04:36] <Liquid24> can do stuff locally but cant connect to the outside
[04:36] <wols_> Liquid24: ping 8.8.8.8
[04:37] <intelmeth> response from 8.8.8.8: PONG!!!
[04:37] <markmental> ok because i really love ambiance its a great white ubuntu theme :)
[04:37] <wols_> !+1
[04:37] <markmental> i mean radiance lol
[04:37] <intelmeth> quiescens: cool, is the "newer" /etc/init style meaning it should be used with service <service name>
[04:38] <wols_> !oneiric | markmental
[04:38] <quiescens> intelmeth: probably
[04:38] <Liquid24> wols_: network is unreachable
[04:38] <klay_> anyone here of this one problem in alsa on 10 startler?
[04:38] <Dude22> wols_: system fixed ... findutils is updated and I was able to update-initramfs ... I can now boot again.  It only took 6 hours to figure out. omg. thx
[04:38] <markmental> okay thanks
[04:38] <wols_> Liquid24: route
[04:38] <klay_> sound only works with one application at a time
[04:39] <wols_> klay_: not ubuntu
[04:39] <wrtiii> I just did - tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log   Now I am locked into something and cannot get back to prompt. Help please
[04:39] <wols_> klay_: ask in the channel of your distro
[04:39] <markmental> what irc program is everyone using? im using x-chat
[04:39] <wols_> !poll
[04:39] <Liquid24> wols_: Destination: 192.168.1.0 Gateway: * Genmask: 255.255.255.0 Flags: U Metric: 0 Ref: 0 Use: 0 Iface: eth0
[04:39] <klay_> thats just the thing, no ones on over their. kinda sucks they went away from the main ubuntu distro
[04:40] <wols_> klay_: we don't care. we only support ubuntu and not crunchbang. good day
[04:40] <klay_> Thank you Wols, i was just wondering if you guys might have a idea. maybe their was a similar issue with your camp?
[04:40] <wols_> Liquid24: the important part is the "default" line
[04:41] <markmental> who uses crunchbang? saw it on distro watch once
[04:41] <Liquid24> wols_: that was the only line besides the (Kernal IP Routing table)
[04:41] <wols_> markmental: do you have a ubuntu natty or other supported version question or problem? so far you have been constantly off topic. this is not a social channel but a support channel for ubuntu only. if you want to just chat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <klay_> i did, got tired of the main dist droping support for random chipsets on my hardware.
[04:42] <wols_> Liquid24: then your defaultroute is not set
[04:42] <markmental> ok thanks ill join the offtopic one
[04:42] <wrtiii> ok crtl-c worked
[04:42] <klay_> or having to use 40% of my system resources to do a simple task like open office doc editing, or checking my rss
[04:42] <JZApples> Is there any way to re-transfer my emails in Evolution back to my hotmail account without forwarding them all back to me?  Not sure if it was like this by default, but the "Leave messages on server" check box on the Receiving Options of the Account Editor was unchecked the first time I did Send / Receive so all my email on the server got deleted.
[04:43] <wols_> Liquid24: instead of "gateway" (whic should work too tho), use "network 192.168.1.0" and run ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[04:44] <wols_> JZApples: if you use imap it's just a drag+drop via folders. if you use pop3: no way
[04:44] <Liquid24> wols_: ok doing that now
[04:46] <chamunks> somsip, i just realized after some dozing off in my chair that ionice is built into ubuntu http://linux.die.net/man/1/ionice
[04:46] <somsip> chamunks: hehe. Good news in the end. Do you think it will help you?
[04:46] <Liquid24> wols_: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[04:47] <JZApples> wols_, that's a bummer.  I use POP3.  Don't think hotmail lets you use IMAP, does it?  Do you think it would be unwise to forward myself all 2000 emails?
[04:47] <chamunks> somsip, I'm not sure I will try I'm sure scheduling it on a low priority wont hurt.  I dont mind a slow trickle of this 400+ gigs of data
[04:47] <JZApples> wols_, at the same time...
[04:47] <somsip> chamunks: ok - gluck to you
[04:47] <meme> anyone know where i can get a graph showing the increase in consumer level internet speeds?
[04:47] <wols_> JZApples: maybe you can use MAPI via some copy of outlook or such?
[04:47] <overrider_> i use a custom udev rule to run a script when a particular usb stick is plugged in, trouble is the script seems to run twice. Any idea?
[04:48] <chamunks> somsip, I appreciate your time / attention thank you.
[04:48] <somsip> chamunks: yr welcome. Worth a try in case it helps
[04:50] <dr-willis> overrider_:  use  ome lock file. the script checks. to tell it to not run the second time perhaps.
[04:50] <chamunks> somsip, looks like it should fit the bill somewhat.
[04:51] <nhocht> hi
[04:53] <nhocht> how could install pidgin internet messenger
[04:53] <nhocht> !pidgin
[04:53] <wrtiii> How do I search for a file using command line?
[04:53] <somsip> wrtiii: find / -name lookforthisfilename
[04:53] <somsip> wrtiii: where / proabbly should be a better defined path
[04:54] <wols_> wrtiii: with "find"
[04:55] <wrtiii> sudo find / -name mumble-django.db3   just returns me directly back to prompt
[04:55] <wrtiii> that mean it does not exist?
[04:56] <somsip> wrtiii: yes
[04:56] <dr-willis> update the locate database and try locste wrtiii
[04:57] <SixEch0> Run updatedb
[04:57] <somsip> wrtiii: trywildcarding to widen the search also: *.db3 might help
[04:57] <quiescens> wrtiii: probably, just note that find's -name option is for a complete match unless you explicitly add wildcards
[04:57] <dr-willis> that find command dhould take some time to.get done
[04:58] <quiescens> not if you've already run it or some other directory walk recently
[05:00] <wrtiii> If there a way to reverse an entire apt-get that installed multiple packages?
[05:01] <head_victim> Is there a way to see the history of a terminal output (not just the commands used) or am I asking a bit much here?
[05:01] <dr-willis> wrtiii: i saw some blog site mention an un aptt-get thing yesterday
[05:02] <quiescens> head_victim: not unless you went/go out of your way to record the output
[05:02] <dr-willis> im drugged up now. so cant recall the site.
[05:02] <doffo> Got ubuntu installed on my server, I was curious what software I can use to remote into the server. I setup remote desktop, but what windows client can I actually use so I can log myself in? :)
[05:02] <dvdr> I have an ubuntu box connected to a wireless network via a built in wireless card. I have a second usb connected wireless access device. Is there a way I can create a second wireless access point using the usb device? I'd like to share my internet connection via my own wireless network.
[05:03] <head_victim> quiescens: I was thinking as much but hoping for the best
[05:04] <seclm193> anyone have gnome shell working? just wanted to know how it ran
[05:06] <wrtiii> Ok really this typing of sudo all the time gets old fast
[05:06] <wols_> dvdr: you can. if the usb device has hostap support
[05:06] <wols_> doffo: any VNC client. but you have a server you said. there is no X server on servers.... use ssh
[05:07] <wrtiii> apt-get autoremove
[05:07] <dvdr> wols_: ok ill look into it and see if it has
[05:07] <dvdr> wols_: thanks
[05:07] <wols_> wrtiii: there is no way except looking at the apt log and removing thoes packages. but if it was a package upgrade there is no way except a manual downgrading
[05:09] <wrtiii> wols_: I did an apt-get --purge remove mumble-django and then an apt-get autoremove and then apt-get install mumble-django and it says 25 packages to install.  I am just not sure how many packages it installed orginally
[05:10] <wols_> wrtiii: check your apt logs how many it removed with your remove and autoremove
[05:10] <wrtiii> How do I check those wols_ ?
[05:11] <wols_> "less". and possibly zless for old logs
[05:11] <wrtiii> - /var/log/apt
[05:11] <wrtiii> history.log ?
[05:11] <wrtiii> Is there a better way to view them than using nano?
[05:11] <quiescens> i like less
[05:12] <wrtiii> nice
[05:12] <wrtiii> that works
[05:13] <wrtiii> now how do I get out of less? :P
[05:13] <dr-willis> there are log colorizer tools out also wrtiii
[05:13] <wrtiii> q
[05:13] <wrtiii> ok :)
[05:13] <wols_> dr-willis: and you think one has been written for apt logs? :)
[05:14] <quiescens> wols_: there's probably some out there somewhere!
[05:14] <dr-willis> they use regular ecpressions.. so yes  wols_
[05:14] <dr-willis> !info colortail
[05:16] <wrtiii> Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/mumble-django: No such file or directory     -- Think that would appear if there was just a permissions problem to the mumble-jango file?
[05:18] <wrtiii> Ok So what is the reasoning behind having to use the sudo command nonstop vs just having root access?
[05:18] <richie086> for security and so you dont screw up your system too easily
[05:18] <wrtiii> I am configuring a server where 95% of everything I do I need to use sudo. This is a server I will never be logged into it unless I am performing administrative tasks.
[05:19] <DeltaWhy> ok this vm thing isn't working so well...
[05:19] <dr-willis> sevurity is about layers. :)
[05:19] <DeltaWhy> I got it to recognize my disk but couldn't get it to boot.
[05:19] <dr-willis> wrtiii:  sudo -i
[05:19] <wrtiii> How is a username and password for a user that only requires a username and password and to type sudo more secure than a user name and password for root?
[05:20] <dr-willis> sudo has other features also. check its homepage.
[05:20] <richie086> because only certian users can use sudo
[05:20] <Pat201> what does uname -a do in the terminal?
[05:21] <dr-willis> logging of sudo commands.  for example.
[05:22] <semi-afk> !root | wrtiii read this
[05:23] <wrtiii> There is only 1 user :P
[05:24] <dr-willis> actually theres more wrtiii
[05:24] <wrtiii> and with my 1 username and password I can do everything that root can do except I have to type sudo a lot and it messes with certain automated installs
[05:24] <dr-willis> gdm for example runs as its own user
[05:25] <gurifisu> there was a neat little command line app that lets you pipe into it and the result gets sent to a pastebin, any one remember its name?
[05:25] <dr-willis> wrtiii:  use sudo -i. get work done. close terminal
[05:25] <wrtiii> ok so they cannot use sudo... well they cannot be root either so remove sudo, password root and how is that any different? except perhaps sudo logging as was mentioned :P
[05:25] <dr-willis> !pastebinit
[05:26] <gurifisu> thanks
[05:26] <dr-willis> sudo has other features.. go check its homepage.
[05:26] <wrtiii> and I can just use sudo -i
[05:26] <wrtiii> makes no sense to me at all
[05:26] <wrtiii> lol
[05:27] <wrtiii> makes sense for people that would misuse a server as their personal workstation maybe but for a server admin it just seems backwards
[05:27] <wrtiii> but hey, that's just me :P
[05:27] <dr-willis> security is about layers of security tools. sudo is one layer
[05:27] <wrtiii> one very very thin one maybe :P
[05:27] <larie> allandee_: found default with brute-force http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/452360/
[05:27] <wrtiii> maybe only 1/2 a layer even ;)
[05:27] <allandee_> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04, and window switching is slow.  the computer is beefy enough, latest nvidia drives, metacity composite-yada turned off, any hints?
[05:28] <allandee_> drivers*
[05:29] <dr-willis> compiz can use other alt tab switching plugins :)  chevk the ccsm.tool
[05:29] <wrtiii> It would make more sense to me if when using sudo you had to provide an admin password that was diffrent from the user account and I presume when creating new users this may be the case
[05:29] <allandee_> dr-willis: do you have a how-to for that? ;)  I have the default Unity thing here.
[05:30] <dr-willis> sudo is a per user thing. so the users passwird is used. you can set sudo to not naad a password
[05:30] <dr-willis> allandee_:  a howto on usung ccsm?
[05:31] <dr-willis> !ccsm
[05:31] <allandee_> dr-willis: I award you the "best new-word of the day" - passwird is the best thing I've heard all day.
[05:31] <dr-willis> you type on a cellphone and see how well you do
[05:32] <allandee_> dr-willis: that's vigilant
[05:32] <dr-willis> and im on codine right now :)
[05:32] <wrtiii> Ok first good point. Root is actually disabled so there is no brute forcing the password for a known account name
[05:32] <dr-willis> kidney stones suck
[05:32] <wrtiii> You should add that to the explanation on one of those auto response thingys
[05:33] <allandee_> dr-willis: hehe.  ok, so I installed the package, how do I start the settings manager? (I'm a dinosaur)
[05:33] <dr-willis> !compiz
[05:33] <iRBiNiX> hello. Can anybody help me??? I need backup app that can  sync, share, web cloud, vertion control, restore delete files, cheap, unlim storege. ???
[05:33] <dr-willis> i forget the binary name. :)
[05:34] <allandee_> thanks
[05:34] <dr-willis> i barely know my own name right now
[05:34] <JustSighDudes> Does X forwarding mean my X-less server can display a gui without having X installed?
[05:34] <JustSighDudes> On my monitor.
[05:35] <allandee_> dr-willis: do I want compiz-fusion or no?
[05:35] <dr-willis> installing an x gui.app will pull in some x parts JustSighDudes
[05:35] <JustSighDudes> dr-willis: It's not from apt.
[05:35] <dr-willis> allandee_:  its installed by default
[05:36] <dr-willis> JustSighDudes:  try it and see i guess
[05:36] <dr-willis> i imagine you need some parts of x
[05:37] <wrtiii> Ok So using sudo-i and then doing an install will give the install all the same rights as root would have? Seems the problem with the install I am trying to do is that using sudo does not give the install all the required rights. I imagine because the person writing the package is intending it for debian
[05:38] <dr-willis> doing an.install.. means what? using apt-get? source?
[05:39] <dmi> hello
[05:39] <dmi> i need help
[05:39] <hiexpo> !ask
[05:39] <wrtiii> dr-willis: apt-get
[05:40] <dr-willis> sudo apt-get xxxxxxxx should work same as   sudo -i   then the command
[05:40] <wrtiii> whichs is 100% exactly the same as being logged in as root?
[05:41] <Guest79168> when I start airmon-ng on the konsole from backtrack 4 and then i get this: Found 2 processes that could cause trouble.
[05:41] <Guest79168> If airodump-ng, aireplay-ng or airtun-ng stops working after
[05:41] <Guest79168> a short period of time, you may want to kill (some of) them!
[05:41] <Guest79168> PID     Name
[05:41] <Guest79168> 5214    wpa_supplicant
[05:41] <FloodBot1> Guest79168: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <Guest79168> 5253    dhclient
[05:41] <dr-willis> never noticed. there is sudo -i  and sudo -s
[05:41] <dr-willis> they differ in some slight ways.
[05:42] <wrtiii> I think I am just going to set a root password, lol at least for the install
[05:43] <wrtiii> I can always disabled the root account again after I finish the bulk of the setup
[05:44] <wrtiii> maybe I've spent too much time in the last 10 years around windows server. but just seems like removing everyone from the administrators group and setting up a singular account and telling everyone to use run as seems like a bad idea
[05:45] <wrtiii> I'll do some more reading on it to try and understand the concept tomorrow :)
[05:47] <wrtiii> So with all the error messages and failed installs I just got over the past hour I am reinstalling linux from scratch. and this time I will install the packages individually.  Would of there been a better way to revert back to a decently clean installation without just doing an entire install?  Is theer a way to create like a ghost of the fresh install this time around so I can revert back to
[05:47] <wrtiii> it should something go wrong?
[05:48] <dr-willis> i saw mention of some aptget undo feature at a blog site the otherday
[05:48] <wrtiii> just thinking like at shop. when a new pc comes in. we use ghost to create a image the the factory drive and then once that is complete proceed to put our own image on themachine
[05:48] <wrtiii> ya I googled for it quickly without luck dr-willis
[05:48] <wrtiii> if you come across it again would be great if you could send the addy my way
[05:49] <dr-willis> wrtiii:  you can set sudo up whete other users hwve specific sudo rights
[05:49] <italys> hi
[05:49] <italys> I installed ubuntu in vmware and the graphics look fine for about 10 seconds
[05:49] <italys> after that, it switches back to the old school GUI
[05:50] <italys> any ideas?
[05:50] <wrtiii> dr-willis: in my case there will never be any other users other than me
[05:51] <dr-willis> there allready are other ysers. just not normal users
[05:51] <wrtiii> there will never be any other physical human users other than me
[05:51] <dr-willis> cant find that undo apt thang saw it on my google reader lists
[05:52] <wrtiii> I'll dig around for it at work tomorrow
[05:52] <wrtiii> bedtime for me
[05:53] <iRBiNiX> hello. Can anybody help me??? I need backup app that can  sync, share, web cloud, vertion control, restore delete files, cheap, unlim storege. ???
[05:53] <wrtiii> thanks for the help advice and insight
[05:53] <wrtiii> cheers
[05:53] <bakslash_7> apb reloaded aimbot for free?
[05:53] <bakslash_7> plzhelp
[05:57] <Anom01y> which ubuntu version should I upgrade to ?
[05:57] <Anom01y> 10.04 or 11.04 ?
[05:57] <Anom01y> or 11.10 or 10.10 ?
[05:57] <dr-willis> hmm
[05:57] <dr-willis> depends on yiur needs
[05:57] <italys> I installed ubuntu in vmware and the graphics look fine for about 10 seconds
[05:57] <italys> after that, it switches back to the old school GUI
[05:58] <Anom01y> dr-willis, yeah I need something that will be around for awhile and  is the most up to date
[05:58] <dr-willis> unity needs 3d support
[05:58] <dr-willis> !lts
[05:59] <italys> dr-willis, what's the best way to check if i have 3d support?
[05:59] <dr-willis> most up to date is sort of oposite of lts.
[05:59] <dr-willis> i dont use vmware. so no idea on it
[06:00] <italys> i'd install natively
[06:00] <dr-willis> install guest os additions i would think italys
[06:00] <italys> I did
[06:00] <italys> they're installed and working
[06:00] <dr-willis> who said vmware then? ;)
[06:01] <Anom01y> I think I will go with 10.04 !
[06:01] <italys> i'd install natively but
[06:01] <italys> wireless dongle doesn't work yet in linux
[06:02] <dr-willis> try vbox instead of vmware perhaps
[06:02] <mcurran> VirtualBox is said to have 3D, but the latest extensions and the host driver isn't even enough to get my GTX460 to run aero with windows 7 vm
[06:02] <wols_> italys: what usb wlan is it?
[06:02] <mcurran> I don't think there's a good enough 3D virtual driver for 3D acceleration yet
[06:03] <dr-willis> vbox 4  works with unity i hear
[06:05] <darkhandz> 刚来，不会用
[06:06] <csdserver> !japanese | darkhandz
[06:08] <csdserver> i'm sorry, it might be chinese too
[06:09] <ewww> hello people, how do i upgrade my sources.list?
[06:09] <acce245> Does anyone else have trouble getting google functionality in empathy?  Is this the proper channel?  Thanks!
[06:10] <mcurran> apt-get update
[06:10] <mcurran> if you want new sources, you'd have to look up a post with the distribution/version you want.  Usually for ubuntu it's as simple as updating the name at the end
[06:11] <ewww> mcurran: if do that commands seems the deb is not updated
[06:11] <ewww> mcurran: can you teach me how i dont have idea
[06:12] <mcurran> what do you mean "deb is not supported"?
[06:12] <ewww> i mean the sources.list is no longer working, something like that
[06:13] <mcurran> what's the output of apt-get update?  Did you add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list and not add the appropriate key for the source?
[06:13] <csdserver> I just resized a partition and created a new one, how do i make it so that my install of ubuntu on a different sda can read/write to it?
[06:14] <acce245> csd: if you can mount it, Ubuntu can probably read-write it.
[06:14] <CryptiCreature> hello all
[06:15] <acce245> csd: unless you have the partitions encrypted.
[06:15] <CatFish> morning all ^
[06:15] <wols_> ewww: upgrading or fixing your sources.list
[06:15] <csdserver> no encryptions, but on my permissions page the owner and group are set as root
[06:16] <csdserver> so how do i change the owner to a user on this system, or btter yet, make it so anyone anywhere can alter the filesystem?
[06:16] <acce245> csd: so you have a partition on sda and want to read/write from your ubuntu hda?  can you not read from it or write to it?
[06:16] <csdserver> no i can't, i don't have permission until i sudo
[06:16] <ussher__> I just switched from KDE to Gnome and so am not sure what is possible.  What im after is something like 1 2 3 4 in the window title bar that when clicked on will send the window to that desktop.  I'd google it if i thought it had a name.  Is there a thing like this?
[06:16] <acce245> csd: what format is your sda?
[06:17] <csdserver> ext4
[06:17] <ewww> wols_: how? i really dont know
[06:17] <ussher__> currently the closest i have found is RIGHT CLICK-> MOVE TO ANOTHER WORKSPACE->DESK 3
[06:17] <acce245> csd: have you tried chmod?
[06:17] <csdserver> chmod 0777 /dev/sdaX  ??
[06:17] <csdserver> with a sudo of course
[06:18] <KE1HA> just chown -R username:username /folder or /dev/sdx where x is the new particion you made
[06:18] <KE1HA> yes you will need sudo if root already owns it.
[06:18] <NullCity> Exactly
[06:19] <acce245> There you go.
[06:19] <wols_> ewww: unless you know what you want to do we cannot help you
[06:19] <acce245> ewww: why did you want to manually update your list in the first place?
[06:19] <skipper> how to mastering ubuntu? where should i start to do?
[06:19] <ewww> wols_: W: Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.170 80]
[06:20] <ewww> acce245: thats example error i dont know how to solve
[06:20] <NullCity> Doesnt work
[06:20] <NullCity> you need old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <NullCity> if not, then upgrade to Lucid Lynx :(
[06:20] <wols_> !jaunty
[06:20] <acce245> eww: I didn't see your original message.  I just popped in recently.
[06:20] <allandee> skipper: go to http://www.kernel.org - buy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language
[06:21] <NullCity> How about Java?
[06:21] <allandee> after that, ask again
[06:21] <wols_> ewww: see this? end of life. jaunty isn't supported anymore since 10 months now. upgrade to lucid (10.04)
[06:21] <ewww> yeahs that right, thats what i want to do i want to upgrade
[06:21] <NullCity> Actually you cant upgrade to lucid, you need to upgrade to natty narwhal X( (11.04)
[06:21] <ewww> wols_: what will i upgrade? will i reinstall the ubuntu or upgrade the sources list
[06:21] <wols_> !Upgrade | ewww
[06:22] <NullCity> To upgrade, run update-manager
[06:22] <NullCity> and click upgrade
[06:22] <NullCity> but good luck wasting 4GB
[06:22] <acce245> I was wondering, anyone else having problems using google talk functionality of Empathy?  I am, and don't know how to fix it.  any suggestions?  Google didn't help.
[06:22] <csdserver> ergh, whats the command line for checking what group i'm part of?
[06:22] <wols_> CadeSkywalker: id
[06:22] <allandee> NullCity: pure curiousity---how does "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" work these days?
[06:23] <_rave> hi guys
[06:23] <csdserver> i'm sure that was meant for me wols_  ;)  thanks
[06:23] <allandee> _rave: hi
[06:25] <allandee> acce245: if you are in immediate need, I think gtalk in Firefox is your best bet
[06:25] <NullCity> All slient........problems solved.....oh no........ :(
[06:25] <allandee> acce245: second base is chrome
[06:25] <acce245> allandee: I would prefer using the chat client, so I don't have to have a browser window open.
[06:26] <NullCity> Anyone needs help? I give out support for 7.10 to 11.10
[06:26] <allandee> acce245: ...and if you are relaxed for the next 5 minutes, pidgin
[06:26] <KE1HA> csdserver: type: groups <username> that should list all the groups your in.
[06:26] <NullCity> Does anyone need help? I support 7.10 to 11.10 :P
[06:26] <NullCity> If yes, private message me
[06:26] <ewww> wols_: i cannot even install update-manager-core? what will i do to this
[06:27] <NullCity> use terminal
[06:27] <NullCity> and type in sudo apt-get install update-manager
[06:27] <allandee> NullCity: I just installed Ubuntu 11.04, and when I try to switch the front window, it is slow.  any tips?
[06:27] <acce245> allandee: FB chat works.  Google chat doesn't.  Just can't figure out why.  Credentials are correct.
[06:27] <csdserver> can someone verify syntax? `sudo chown -R csd:csd /dev/sda3`
[06:27] <allandee> acce245: is this with pidgin?
[06:28] <csdserver> it's not doing what i expect (or i'm feeding it what won't work)
[06:28] <acce245> allandee: no, empathy.  11.04
[06:28] <KE1HA> csdserver: looks corr to me
[06:28] <csdserver> well, gparted is whining about not being able to find the mount point
[06:28] <KE1HA> assuming of course, csd is a user on the system
[06:28] <ewww> NullCity: i successfully install update-manager
[06:28] <dr-willis> why are you chowning /dev/sdxx
[06:29] <NullCity> he wants a full access partition
[06:29] <KE1HA> afterpartitining, did you format & mount the volume?
[06:29] <NullCity> yes
[06:29] <csdserver> yep
[06:29] <KE1HA> whoops after partitioning .. ..
[06:29] <NullCity> yep
[06:29] <csdserver> NullCity, why are you answering for me?
[06:29] <allandee> acce245: which program?
[06:30] <KE1HA> do a df -H and see if it's listed
[06:30] <allandee> acce245: which application?
[06:30] <acce245> allandee: Empathy.
[06:30] <allandee> acce245: I have none.
[06:30] <csdserver> KE1HA, no, it's not listed D=
[06:30] <KE1HA> it's not mounted then
[06:30] <callumh> anyone know if the gn-ws50g-rh wifi card works with ubuntu? can't find anything of support documents/forums/google
[06:30] <acce245> allandee: Empathy is the built-in chat program.  you trollin?
[06:31] <csdserver> its showing as mounted in nautilus though... weird
[06:31] <allandee> acce245: sorry.  I don't know much about it all.  no, not trollin, I'm a new Ubuntu user.
[06:31] <KE1HA> hmm tiz strange that one
[06:31] <args[0]> l
[06:31] <NullCity> Hey guys, if your free space is running out of nowhere, then look in /var/log and check syslog, last time I checked, it was 2 GB!
[06:31] <acce245> allandee: ahhh.  I just wondered if anyone else had the issue.  It stopped working sometime months ago, but now I want to use it again, as it was designed into this distro.
[06:31] <wols_> NullCity: he is running jaunty. there is no repository for him anymore
[06:32] <wols_> !pm > NullCity
[06:32] <allandee> acce245: I'm not sure if it's your best bet.  I would try pidgin.
[06:32] <acce245> allandee: seems like there was a change in the server port or server name or something, and it didn't go through.  Thought someone might know something, but apparently not.
[06:33] <wols_> NullCity: since you obviosuly don't react to ubottu: stop spamming people in PM please
[06:33] <KE1HA> csdserver: did you create a /folder then mount the .sda3 to that /folder?
[06:33] <allandee> acce245: I'm sure someone does.  in the mean time, I'd suggest firefox/gmail if you're in a real hurry, or pidgin if you have a few minutes.
[06:33] <wols_> callumh: check what chip is on your card. lspci -nn helps there
[06:33] <KE1HA> for example ..sudo mkdir /newfolder
[06:33] <csdserver> i haven't done that
[06:34] <KE1HA> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /newfolder
[06:34] <NullCity> Does anyone know how to use /dev/zero to zero out a user-made partition?
[06:34] <csdserver> ah, will that place it in my current partitions filesystem and be recognized as part of it?
[06:34] <callumh> wols_ unfortunately I can't since I don't have Ubuntu, I'll get it when I know the card works
[06:34] <KE1HA> ext3 would be whatever you formatted it too.
[06:34] <tripelb> when ubuntu comes up it asks me to search for a suitable plugin. After I do it tells me it cant play a wav file (in other words). 1. I took the disk out of the drive so what is starting it? 2. If there were a disk VLC works find and rhythmbox is retarded and I dont want it to start. 3. It's ignorant to give me a dialog box with no indication of what program initiated the request. -- Any help on any of these things?? 10.04
[06:34] <wols_> callumh: what OS do you have?
[06:34] <allandee> NullCity; dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/<user-partition>
[06:35] <wols_> allandee: check your command again...
[06:35] <allandee> NullCity: but check with for example fdisk which partition you're entirely sure that you want to nuke
[06:35] <callumh> wols_ at the moment Windoze 7 Home Premium 64bit  but the card isn't in this laptop
[06:35] <KE1HA> csdserver: yes, when you create the new folder, then mount the volume to that folder, it should then sho in df -H
[06:36] <wols_> callumh: so what OS do you run on the hardware this card is in?
[06:36] <callumh> wols_ unfortunately nothing as the motherboard is fried
[06:36] <acce245> Pidgin is so noisy.... time to remove its vocal chords.... pun intended....
[06:36] <dKc> hi
[06:37] <dKc> anyone has a hosting and cPanel on it? i need help
[06:37] <DonaldKeyz> how do i make scrollbars look like os x?
[06:37] <wols_> dKc: we support ubuntu, not cpanel
[06:38] <KE1HA> csdserver: you will also want to add an entry in your fstab as well, if the sys doesn't do it for you, else you'll have toremount it each tome. Also, change the partition ownership and permissions.
[06:38] <allandee> DonaldKeyz: the easiest way is to install OS X
[06:38] <KE1HA> I really need typing lessons Dohh!!
[06:38] <csdserver> ok KE1HA , i've never worked with fstab much so not sure what to add there
[06:39] <DonaldKeyz> allandee - ok
[06:39] <acce245> DonaldKeys: look up themes and find one that suits your needs, then install it.  Remember to scan for virii!
[06:40] <DonaldKeyz> acce245 ok
[06:40] <callumh> wols_ at the moment that would be Win7 32-bit Business I believe but like I said, the motherboard is fried
[06:40] <wols_> callumh: I cannot help you if you have no access to the card
[06:40] <callumh> wols_: well, we think it is anyway
[06:40] <callumh> wols_ : I can try the LiveCD I suppose
[06:40] <wols_> sure
[06:41] <KE1HA> csdserver: here's a couple links for assistance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions   and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[06:41] <csdserver> thanks, i'll read them thoroughly =)
[06:41] <wols_> acce245: just tell me AV scanner to use for ubuntu? you're very funny :P
[06:42] <wols_> *me what AV
[06:42] <DeltaCore> Does Ubuntu 10.10 suffer the power regression issue from 2.6.35 and does it have the 200 line kernel patch that helps performance?
[06:42] <KE1HA> csdserver: once the partitioin is mounted, and it shows up in df -H ot fdisk -l .. use this to get the UUID: sudo blkid
[06:43] <acce245> wols: there is a virus scanner available.  Yes, though, it was a joke, you could scan it.  ClamAV I think it is, in the repos.
[06:43] <KE1HA> csdserver: thenthe entry will look something similar to this: UUID=xxxxxxx /newfolder  ext3  nodev,nosuid       0       2
[06:43] <wols_> acce245: yes there is, but your answer shows your heritage of windows and your ignorance of ubuntu
[06:43] <callumh> wols_ : there's also avast! I think
[06:43] <ussher__> I've sort of found what im looking for.  I have assigned the keyboard shortcut alt+left and alt+right to "Move to workspace left" (and right).  But the issue im seeing is that if i right click and choose "Move to workspace left" just the window goes, while if i use alt+left the window goes AND the current winow changes to that window.  Why am i seeing the inconsistant behaviour?
[06:43] <wols_> !av
[06:45] <acce245> Nope, you do not need antivirus on Linux.  This was only a test.  You all passed.  Celebrate by running a virus in WINE today!
[06:46] <pilojo> I'm having problems with partitioning using gparted.
[06:46] <csdserver> Added this to my fstab:    UUID=5...snip...2   /supshare         ext4
[06:46] <wols_> csdserver: not enough
[06:47] <wols_> csdserver: you missed 3 more columns
[06:47] <NullCity> !av
[06:47] <pilojo> It won't allow me to resize my partition, I want to add another OS but, I can't find out why gparted wont let me.
[06:48] <KE1HA> csdserver: ya need a bit more :-)  nodev,nosuid       0       2
[06:48] <DeltaCore> Do any of you use 10.04 or 10.10 and why?
[06:48] <wols_> KE1HA: "default" is more important...
[06:48] <csdserver> wols - the dump and pass i'm aware of, still reading them out
[06:48] <KE1HA> true was jsut an example
[06:48] <wols_> !polls | DeltaCore
[06:48] <NullCity> !polls | hi
[06:49] <KE1HA> pilojo: make sure you umount it before try adjusting it.
[06:50] <wols_> NullCity: don't play with the bot in the channel. use pm instead, we know you're good at that
[06:51] <ussher__> pilojo: i usually run gparted from a usb stick there are instructions here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php
[06:51] <raevol> where would i find the terminal output of the last session my computer did before i hard rebooted it?
[06:51] <KE1HA> bash_history
[06:52] <wols_> raevol: not logged by default
[06:52] <wols_> KE1HA: there is no output there
[06:52] <KE1HA> or maybe not the output, but certainly the command
[06:52] <pilojo> KE1HA it's my main partition though.
[06:52] <raevol> well, i was running something through wine, i did run from console
[06:52] <raevol> but then it killed my x server and showed a lot of nice console logging
[06:52] <raevol> and i would like to salvage that if i could
[06:53] <KE1HA> pilojo: I'd go wth the USB suggestion then.
[06:53] <KE1HA> be carfull though, and dont jack up your /boot /root partition
[06:53] <wols_> raevol: X logs are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log* and any errors encountered by X programs might be in ~/.xsession-errors
[06:54] <csdserver> OK, does this syntax look right for fstab?   UUID=XXXX   /supshare   ext4   defaults   0   2
[06:55] <KE1HA> maybe ther or the .xsession-errors.old file, if it was an X error, or maybe look in the WinDoze Wine section for the apps log file.
[06:56] <KE1HA> csdserver: yes it looks reasonable
[06:56] <csdserver> ok, going to see if after a restart i can get owner/write priv
[06:56] <wols_> csdserver: yes
[06:57] <tyreil> is there a way i can load an x session remotely without vnc?
[06:57] <csdwifi> (still on wifi if you want to address me)
[06:58] <wols_> tyreil: yes. remote X
[06:58] <wols_> csdwifi: the mountpoint must be writable by your user, then you can write to it as your normal user
[07:00] <raevol> thanks guys
[07:01] <csdwifi> it did auto-mount properly =)  so there's that goin for me.  Now i just need to 'chown'  the directory it's mounted to
[07:01] <csdwifi> correct?
[07:01] <wols_> csdwifi: no. you do that _before_ you mount it
[07:01] <csdwifi> ha, ok, that explains that... dismount command?
[07:02] <wols_> umount
[07:02] <Joymo> why is UEFI such an immense pain in Ubuntu...I can't for the life of me get Ubuntu to boot on a new Asus p8z68 motherboard :S
[07:03] <Joymo> I even tried 11.10 alpha 2, same issues, sigh
[07:03] <allandee> Joymo: it's because of the beards, and the lack of funds.
[07:04] <allandee> Joymo: how far does the boot-process get?
[07:04] <allandee> Joymo: what is the last thing printed on your screen?
[07:05] <Joymo> I only get to a blinking underscore, when you'd  expect a grub loader
[07:05] <allandee> Joymo: there is nothing between your bios thingies, and that underscore?
[07:06] <Joymo> no
[07:06] <allandee> Joymo: and before this, have you gone through a succesful installation of a Linux distro?
[07:06] <csdwifi> and since it's mounted to a directory i can just umount /directory ... Ok that's done, but I type the following:  'sudo chown csd /supshare'   then i check the permissions in nautilus but it still reads as root having all access only
[07:06] <Joymo> allandee: many times, but never with UEFI
[07:06] <Joymo> never on this mobo, is brand new ssytem
[07:06] <allandee> Joymo: but this time, on the partition that you want to boot?
[07:06] <Joymo> no
[07:07] <KE1HA> sudi chown csd:csd /suphare
[07:07] <KE1HA> sudo ..
[07:07] <KE1HA> you need the group and user
[07:07] <Joymo> I am thinking of trying fedora 15 instead, at least that OS seems to actually know EFI exists <_<
[07:07] <allandee> Joymo: are you trying to boot from an installation media in order to install a linux distro, and not getting it to work?
[07:07] <chewed-on> Guys, how do I edit a file inside an ftp session inside bash shell ?
[07:07] <Joymo> no, installer works allandee, I'm past that, I am at first reboot after full install
[07:08] <csdwifi> sweet, that worked KE1HA
[07:08] <csdwifi> now remount and it should be ready
[07:08] <wols_> chewed-on: unless your ftp client provides that feature you can't. you download the file instead, edit it, and upload it again
[07:08] <allandee> Joymo: I'd give http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ a shot
[07:08] <KE1HA> cool glad its sorted, not I'd reboot and make sure it mounts and you can read/write to it as the normal user.
[07:09] <chewed-on> alright thanks guys
[07:09] <allandee> grub2 knows about efi, it just needs to be nudged a bit
[07:09] <Joymo> allandee: that doesnt look like it knows efi does it ? the rescatux
[07:09] <KE1HA> chewed-on: I dont know of an FTP client that has an embedded editor alone with it. SSH to the client, then use a command line editor, Nano, Pico, etc etc
[07:10] <csdwifi> hmm, once i mounted the owner changed back to root =(
[07:10] <allandee> grub2 does, rescatux developers knows a lot about the chain loaders involved, and about talking to the bios/efi protocols
[07:10] <allandee> I'd give it a shot
[07:11] <Night-hacks> i've problem with my *FUCKIN* Ubuntu 10.04
[07:11] <Night-hacks> my ram is full !!!
[07:11] <KE1HA> csdwifi: see if you can add / del / edit a filt on in the folder as a normal user
[07:11] <Night-hacks> ive done nothing
[07:11] <wols_> Night-hacks: calm down, lay off the language
[07:11] <Night-hacks> and top says nothing
[07:11] <wols_> Night-hacks: what does "free" show. pastebin it please
[07:12] <KE1HA> sounds like an app memory leak to me
[07:12] <Night-hacks> wols_: Mem:       1025232     987684      37548          0       9840     113156
[07:12] <Night-hacks> im coding it's killing my time.
[07:12] <csdwifi> KE1HA,  here's what happened - after chowning the mount directory i was able to set sharing options and let nautilus automatically assign permissions, that changed the owner to my 'csd' group and account
[07:12] <Night-hacks> it's random behavior
[07:13] <wols_> Night-hacks: you have 120MB free
[07:13] <csdwifi> going to restart and see if it's persistent
[07:13] <Night-hacks> wols_:  yes but i've still loaded nothing !
[07:13] <Joymo> allandee: my main point is tho, any new user, that tries to install the user-friendly Ubuntu on probably the most popular new mobo asus p8z68, will be unable to boot Ubuntu
[07:13] <wols_> Night-hacks: top, press "M" and check what uses the most memory
[07:13] <Joymo> that should be a major concern
[07:13] <KE1HA> that sharing is intersting, I dont nomally have to do that, but if it works, it's all good.
[07:13] <Night-hacks> wols_: it says nothing
[07:13] <Joymo> you're instantly alienatig any new ubuntu user with a new system
[07:14] <wols_> Night-hacks: you are wrong. it does
[07:14] <wols_> Night-hacks: pastebin please. NOT in the channel this time
[07:14] <allandee> Joymo: I have no protests, I'm not impressed myself.
[07:14] <Joymo> the fact even ubuntu 11.10, has not managed to solve this issue, is just quite the facepalm
[07:14] <Night-hacks> where is pastebin of this channel ?
[07:14] <wols_> !paste
[07:15] <fructose> I want to connect to a Windows 7 machine from Ubuntu so I can write files to it. What do I do?
[07:15] <Night-hacks> wols_: you want my top output ?
[07:15] <Night-hacks> with M
[07:16] <allandee> Joymo: unfortunately, while a whole slew of impressing shit gets installed without problems, you encounter fundamental problems afterwards also.
[07:16] <KE1HA> fructose: share the folder on the windows box, then brows to it form your linux box, you'll need the username and password for the windows user the first time around.
[07:16] <csdwifi> KE1HA, good news, owner is maintained after reboot =))  thanks for your and wols_ help
[07:16] <wols_> fructose: you share a folder on your windows machine and mount this folder on your ubuntu
[07:16] <KE1HA> csdwifi: cool, glad it's work'en
[07:17] <Night-hacks> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658479/
[07:17] <fructose> KE1HA, wols_: Sharing on Windows 7 doesn't seem that straight-forward
[07:17] <KE1HA> wols_: that works, unless the Ip changes, then it's a pain again :-) gotta love WinDoze
[07:17] <BlankVerse> any app to do system wide tunneling using ssh tunnel?
[07:17] <Joymo> allandee: first boot is kinda essential for new users, getting ubuntu to actually boot on the z68 board should be pretty high priority <_<
[07:18] <wols_> Night-hacks: you don't have only gnome-terminal loaded... that top output is not proper
[07:18] <KE1HA> I just did this with my wife's Win7 box not more thant a couple days ago, she got to and from her machine from my Linus server no probs.
[07:18] <waseem> Hey guys, I have this problem with my ntfs partition which I can't mount after doing a fresh install for ubuntu 11.04 and fedora cre 15, I did't touch the partition but when I try to mount from terminal it says it's an error of invalid arguments , Please help I need to recover my files
[07:18] <wols_> BlankVerse: any VPN
[07:18] <Night-hacks> wols_: what you mean ?
[07:18] <head_victim> Joymo: don't blame the people trying to come behind the manufacturers and pick up their pieces of brokenness, blame the manufacturers. See http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/ for some insight.
[07:19] <wols_> waseem: show us the command and the error
[07:19] <BlankVerse> wols_: not a vpn ... i do ssh -D 3000 sshserver
[07:19] <wols_> Night-hacks: I mean your top output is very very incomplete
[07:19] <allandee> Joymo: hey, I went through the weirdest installation procudure just to get my boot media recognized, with 11.04 from the frontpage of Ubuntu, don't look to me for excuses
[07:19] <BlankVerse> wols_: what i need is instead of setting the socks5 proxy in every app... make it system wide
[07:19] <Night-hacks> wols_: i've monitored it carefully
[07:19] <Night-hacks> wols_: no app is eating memory
[07:19] <DonaldKeyz> macbuntu does the trick
[07:19] <waseem> Wols_ it just says invalid arguments beside , the partition will appear when I use a live cd of ubuntu
[07:20] <wols_> waseem: I told you want we need to diagnose, if you don't want to tell us, your choice
[07:20] <waseem> Ok, hold on please
[07:20] <allandee> Joymo: I think I jumped through roughly the same hoops to get OS X installed as I did Ubuntu.
[07:22] <allandee> the fundamentals are solid though.  emacs and sbcl installed in a minute or so, in total ;)
[07:25] <tehpwnz> i'm tryin to get conky to work with weather, but that line with the location that has XX with a bunch of numbers in it, where do i get that from?
[07:25] <allandee> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 with the iso image from ubuntu.com, and switching between applications is slow.  are there any tips?  nvidia drivers are the latest, composite_manager is set to false, doesn't help.
[07:27] <somsip> tehpwnz: it depends which weather site the script is using to pull the details from, but this is not realy a Ubuntu support issue
[07:27] <c_nick> how can i reply to 2 ppl simultaneously on IRC?
[07:28] <waseem> Wols_ here's the link to picture showing the error http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/screenshotfts.png/
[07:28] <allandee> c_nick: first, type /msg <victim1>  <message>    then    /msg <victim2> <message>
[07:29] <allandee> c_nick: do you know the name of program you are using to chat on IRC?
[07:30] <c_nick> XChat-gnome
[07:30] <slide> Is there any IM service that empathy can use that can share pictures or files etc?
[07:30] <KE1HA> allandee: c_nick:  just add both the names on line, should work unless they are in seperate channels.
[07:31] <allandee> c_nick: then try /msg name-of-your-recipee <your message here>  and look at the bar to the left on your window
[07:31] <waseem> Hey guys, I have this problem with my ntfs partition which I can't mount after doing a fresh install for ubuntu 11.04 and fedora cre 15, I did't touch the partition but when I try to mount from terminal it says it's an error of invalid arguments , Please help I need to recover my files
[07:32] <wols_> waseem: it ntfsprogs installed? what does file -s /dev/sda1 say?
[07:32] <wols_> waseem: and you aren't mounting it you are trying to resize it
[07:32] <allandee> waseem: are you confident that you have not altered the partitions and their size during your re-install?
[07:33] <waseem> allandee no i did't at all
[07:33] <c_nick> KE1HA allandee, This came to both of you?
[07:33] <waseem> wols_ I have ntfs-3g which gives the same error
[07:33] <KE1HA> c_nick: highlighted in red to me
[07:34] <allandee> c_nick: yes, but your victim was #ubuntu - the channel
[07:34] <wols_> waseem: you said you tried to mount it frm terminal. what you showed had nothing to do with a terminal. or normally mounting
[07:34] <newbee> how come ubuntu software centre gives not statistics like download speeds, size of files etc on ubuntu 10.04?
[07:34] <waseem> sorry, that's a gprted information
[07:35] <wols_> waseem: and I told you what to check and how
[07:35] <KE1HA> c_nick: I just changed over to using Konversation from Xchat-Gnome, seem allot less klunky, and has allot more features.
[07:35] <allandee> c_nick: "victim" is how "recipient" is called in the IRC spec, btw, just substitute when I say that ;P
[07:35] <waseem> I can see the partion only from gparted
[07:35] <c_nick> allandee, oh ok
[07:36] <allandee> waseem: I would give http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ a shot
[07:36] <wols_> allandee: for mounting a ntfs partition?
[07:36] <allandee>  wols_: yep.
[07:37] <c_nick> wow thats 236 MB
[07:37] <theadmin> wols_: To mount a NTFS partition, "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdz500 /mnt"
[07:37] <theadmin> wols_: Not sure if that's what you're discussing, just joined :D
[07:37] <newbee> how come ubuntu software centre gives not statistics like download speeds, size of files etc on ubuntu 10.04?
[07:37] <wols_> theadmin: check your /lastlog more carefully please
[07:37] <waseem> wols_ /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector; GRand Unified Bootloader, stage1 version 0x3, 1st sector stage2 0xf511160, GRUB version 0.94, code offset 0x48, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 2048, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)
[07:37] <KE1HA> That's a bit tricky. This issue he' seeing is not a rare one, when Windows was the native install.
[07:37] <wols_> theadmin: it shows
[07:37] <c_nick> allandee c_nick , hi
[07:38] <allandee> c_nick: still #ubuntu
[07:38] <theadmin> wols_: Not if I wasn't on the channel at all
[07:39] <c_nick> #ubuntu is ok .. I want to personally communicate something to someone not specific to victim on same victim will do
[07:39] <theadmin> c_nick: what?
[07:39] <c_nick> like allandee and c_nick are there in this channel
[07:39] <c_nick> and i want to say hi to both of them
[07:39] <wols_> waseem: sudo fdisk -l
[07:40] <theadmin> c_nick: Yes, you just type their both names
[07:40] <theadmin> c_nick: And then hi
[07:40] <wols_> !ot
[07:40] <c_nick> theadmin, c_nick hi
[07:40] <c_nick> theadmin, c_nick, hi
[07:40] <theadmin> c_nick: That works for me.
[07:41] <c_nick> ok this seems really trivial but still should there be a comma between 2 names
[07:41] <waseem> wols_ sudo fdisk -l
[07:41] <waseem> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[07:41] <waseem> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[07:41] <waseem> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:41] <waseem> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[07:41] <FloodBot1> waseem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <waseem> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[07:42] <llutz> !pm  | c_nick some irc-basics http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[07:44] <badkid_> test
[07:44] <badkid_> test
[07:45] <theadmin> c_nick: Just the name is enough. Anything else is unimportant.
[07:45] <theadmin> c_nick: Also, try typing "thea" and hitting Tab.
[07:47] <KE1HA> waseem: do you have pastebinit install?
[07:48] <maraujo_3> ubuntu_br
[07:48] <maraujo_3> alguem ??
[07:48] <theadmin> maraujo_3: Type "/join #ubuntu_br", without quotes.
[07:49] <theadmin> Are there still clients not accepting "/j" instead of "/join", I wonder?
[07:49] <maraujo_3> tem ninguem no ubuntu_br
[07:50] <maraujo_3> algum brasileiro?
[07:50] <theadmin> !br | maraujo_3
[07:50] <c_nick> oh ok cool
[07:50] <c_nick> thanks theadmin
[07:50] <allandee> theadmin: there are some that send / commands verbatim to the servers
[07:50] <theadmin> allandee: Huh... weird
[07:51]  * theadmin only uses irssi
[07:51] <allandee> theadmin: sort of makes sense
[07:52]  * allandee uses whatever floats his way
[07:54] <allandee> but http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/?action=browse;oldid=EmacsIRCClient;id=ERC if I have to irc daily
[07:55] <Misiex> hi
[07:55] <theadmin> Meh, emacs
[07:55]  * theadmin uses Vim
[07:55] <Misiex> how to control services in ubuntu ?
[07:55] <theadmin> Misiex: Use the "service" command, for more details - "man service"
[07:57]  * allandee make the good, old arguments in the Emacs vs Vi war, ending with "but vi is an editor"
[07:57] <theadmin> allandee: I don't use Vi, I use Vim
[07:57] <somsip> ahem
[07:57] <theadmin> somsip: ?
[07:58] <allandee> I think editor wars are frowned upon.
[07:58] <somsip> :)
[07:58] <theadmin> allandee: I'm not gonna make a war here :D If I would, I'd make a war against Ubuntu in general
[07:58] <somsip> It was more aploite request about being off topic
[07:58] <somsip> ..a polite...
[07:58] <Blacksyke> He who instigates editor wars will be forced to use Notepad in wine for a week
[07:58] <llutz> use whatever you think it makes you cool (or what is the reason for all those daily show-offs here?)
[07:59] <theadmin> Blacksyke: Mousepad anyone?
[07:59] <FroyoShark> i have mousepad :D
[07:59] <theadmin> Blacksyke: An exact clone of notepad pretty much :D
[07:59] <FroyoShark> i dont use it though, i normally use gedit
[07:59] <KE1HA> Is anyone else seeing really slow zsync downloads from ISO repo cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[07:59] <Misiex> what is guest account in samba?
[08:00] <theadmin> llutz: Not cool, I'm used to Vim too much so I pretty much think it's normal
[08:00] <c|oneman> I have a weird sony viao
[08:00] <llutz> ya blah, -> #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[08:00] <teng> hey c|oneman
[08:00] <teng> :)
[08:00] <FroyoShark> lol, a weird sony viao/
[08:00] <FroyoShark> ???
[08:00] <teng> i also have a sony vaio
[08:00]  * theadmin wants a command-line version of Geany... err, ah whatever.
[08:01] <teng> not a weird one though lol
[08:01] <teng> don't really like it, and it's quite old now
[08:01] <c|oneman> that enjoys having not only a physical switch for wlan, but also some strange software implementation
[08:01] <teng> haha
[08:01] <teng> true
[08:01] <Misiex> can anyone help me with SAMBA?
[08:01] <teng> what model is it?
[08:01] <c|oneman> vpceg190S
[08:01] <KE1HA> Misiex: To share without security, security = share then guest account = nobody
[08:01]  * FroyoShark test?
[08:01] <teng> where are you from c|oneman
[08:02] <c|oneman> Canada
[08:02] <teng> Excellent. How's the weather there?
[08:02] <KE1HA> then add your param's to the bottom:
[08:02] <KE1HA> Guest Share]
[08:02] <KE1HA>         comment = Guest access share
[08:02] <KE1HA>         path = /path/to/dir/to/share
[08:02] <KE1HA>         browseable = yes
[08:02] <FloodBot1> KE1HA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <KE1HA>         read only = yes
[08:02] <FroyoShark> teng, off-topic?
[08:02] <c|oneman> so anyway, wlan light wont come on in ubuntu
[08:03]  * FroyoShark has quit (Ping timeout: 262 seconds)
[08:03] <FroyoShark> haha
[08:03] <c|oneman> in fact, when I boot a live CD, it kicks off my windows wifi on the next reboot
[08:03] <c|oneman> it somehow affects it
[08:03] <FroyoShark> they should add something to censor windows lol
[08:03] <theadmin> !ot | FroyoShark
[08:03] <FroyoShark> ... theadmin
[08:03] <FroyoShark> i wouldn't be talking :p
[08:04] <theadmin> FroyoShark: Do not, then.
[08:04] <theadmin> FroyoShark: Unless you can help or need help.
[08:04] <FroyoShark> i can help, i do not need help
[08:04] <c|oneman> It might have something to do with it being Backtrack5 that im live booting
[08:04] <c|oneman> I'm guessing it has funky wlan drivers
[08:04] <szal> !backtrack | c|oneman
[08:05] <vbgunz> when I'm copying or moving files to an NTFS filesystem, I always get a "could not change file permissions..." notice for every item moved. this is super duper trooper annoying. I completely understand I cannot mod permissions on NTFS so how do I stop this annoying nag?
[08:06] <allandee> c|oneman: he said: try #backtrack-linux instead
[08:06] <c|oneman> got it ;)
[08:06] <theadmin> vbgunz: cp blah /media/ntfs/ 2>/dev/null
[08:06] <allandee> vbgunz: do you know with which flags your ntfs partition was mounted?
[08:06] <linuxfreaker> Need some help on gcc
[08:07] <vbgunz> theadmin: I never get prompted using cp or mv. im talking from the interface
[08:07] <linuxfreaker> I am using Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha
[08:07] <theadmin> vbgunz: Oh.
[08:07] <linuxfreaker> Trying to install vmware-tools
[08:07] <allandee> linuxfreaker: with what?
[08:07] <vbgunz> noatime,defaults,umask=007,gid=46
[08:07] <llutz> vbgunz: mount using "quiet"
[08:08] <vbgunz> I thought quiet was not to worry when a disk, partition is not found during boot
[08:08] <vbgunz> I'll check it again
[08:08] <theadmin> !+1 | llutz
[08:08] <theadmin> Oops.
[08:09] <linuxfreaker> When i am trying to install vmware-tools on Ubuntu guest VM it says no gcc path found
[08:09] <vbgunz> llutz: I think you're absolutely right
[08:09] <wols_> linuxfreaker: install build-essential
[08:09] <vbgunz> gonna umount and mount it again with that flaf
[08:09] <llutz> vbgunz: at least for vfat it does what you need :) no idea about ntfs
[08:09] <linuxfreaker> What is the location of the gcc program on your machine?  The path "" is not valid path to the gcc binary. Would you like to change it? [yes] no
[08:09] <vbgunz> flag*
[08:09] <linuxfreaker> build-essential is already installed
[08:09] <linuxfreaker> ii  build-essentia 11.5ubuntu1    Informational list of build-essential packag ii  gcc            4:4.6.1-2ubunt GNU C compiler ii  make           3.81-8.1ubuntu An utility for Directing compilation.
[08:09] <allandee> vbgunz: I don't know how to manipulate the permissions you have to alter windows partitions/disks from the GUI, look at the other suggestions
[08:10] <allandee> linuxfreaker: which command line provokes the error?
[08:10] <linuxfreaker> wols_: Though gcc and build-essential is installed the vmware-tools unable to locate it
[08:10] <linuxfreaker> allandee: let me show u pastebin
[08:10] <allandee> linuxfreaker: why does vmware-tools want to compile something?  what happens before this?
[08:10] <allandee> kk
[08:11] <vbgunz> damn... quiet didn't do the trick :(
[08:11] <linuxfreaker> Here it goes http://pastebin.com/kiakRRmH
[08:11] <vbgunz> man says it'll try chmoding but if it fails, won't say anything... now thats a lie :|
[08:12] <allandee> vbgunz: can you open a terminal window and type "mount"?
[08:12] <llutz> vbgunz: according ntfs-3g man-page, its "silent" not quiet for ntfs
[08:12] <linuxfreaker> http://pastebin.com/ChgLZC4M
[08:13] <llutz> vbgunz: and it's "on" by default...
[08:13] <vbgunz> llutz: in fstab, I have ntfs, not ntfs-3g. although I do have ntfs-3g installed.
[08:13] <allandee> linuxfreaker: sorry if I missed this, but have you "apt-get install gcc"?
[08:13] <vbgunz> I'll check and see whats up
[08:13] <linuxfreaker> yes
[08:14] <linuxfreaker> apt-get install gcc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done gcc is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 109 not upgraded.
[08:14] <allandee> linuxfreaker: it will install the compiler, and I  believe automake and related m4 tools
[08:14] <linuxfreaker> allandee: gcc already installed
[08:14] <allandee> k
[08:14] <linuxfreaker> allandee: where exactly gcc binaries are located?
[08:14] <allandee>  /usr/bin/gcc
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> I tried providing that but it says not correct location
[08:15] <allandee> it will be a symlink though
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> allandee: yes
[08:15] <IdleOne> why do you have 109 packages not upgrading?
[08:15] <allandee> try to type just "/usr/bin/gcc" in a terminal window
[08:15] <allandee> to ensure it's actually there
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# /usr/bin/gcc gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated.
[08:15] <allandee> it should say "no input files"
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> why so?
[08:16] <linuxfreaker> Is it corrupted
[08:16] <allandee> just eliminating possible problems
[08:16] <allandee> try it ;)
[08:16] <linuxfreaker> Shall I purge it and reinstall it again
[08:17] <allandee> linuxfreaker: only if it says "gcc: no input files"
[08:17] <linuxfreaker> allandee: Shall i apt-get remove and install gcc again
[08:17] <allandee> if it doesn't
[08:17] <allandee> *
[08:17] <linuxfreaker> apt-get remove gcc ; apt-get install gcc
[08:17] <allandee> excuse me for repeating, I'm not sober:
[08:17] <linuxfreaker> will it help
[08:17] <auronandace> allandee:  <linuxfreaker> root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# /usr/bin/gcc gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated
[08:17] <wols_> allandee: have you installed build-essential ?
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> yeah
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> its there
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# dpkg --list gcc build-essential make Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name           Version        Description +++-[08:18] <linuxfreaker> gcc make and build-essential are all installed
[08:18] <allandee> if you get "gcc:  no input files"  when you try to type only "gcc" and press enter in a terminal window, you should not purge/remove/reinstall
[08:19] <wols_> linuxfreaker: your kernel headers installed too?
[08:19] <Peyam> hi. when  ubutnu finds wireless connection everything stops working. everything stands still but when I try with cabel it works prefectly
[08:19] <Peyam> wehy
[08:19] <Peyam> why?
[08:19] <Onryo> Whey does Firefox keep popping up in front of any other programs. I use Noscript, ABP. I don't have firefox set to "allways on top"
[08:19] <IdleOne> linuxfreaker: you are running 11.10?
[08:20] <linuxfreaker> yes
[08:20] <IdleOne> support for 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[08:20] <Wisien> who knows what Samba`s NT_STATUS BAD NETWORK NAME is ?
[08:20] <linuxfreaker> root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) \n \l
[08:20] <allandee> linuxfreaker: are you trying to invoke the compiler as root, also?  or as a regular user?
[08:20] <linuxfreaker> root user
[08:20] <linuxfreaker> root@km-vmqa-dhcp184:~/vmware-tools-distrib# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) \n \l
[08:21] <IdleOne> not in here. you are running a dev release and it is expected to not work properly. Please take it to #ubuntu+1
[08:22] <Wisien> anyone can help me with SAMBA ?
[08:22] <linuxfreaker> Noone in ubuntu+1
[08:22] <linuxfreaker> Are they sleeping?
[08:23] <IdleOne> how would you know, you aren't in there
[08:23] <Peyam> i use ubuntu 11.04 and when it finds wireless connection everything stands still and stop working. What can I do?
[08:23] <theadmin> lol IdleOne
[08:24] <esd> screen irssi
[08:24] <esd> oops
[08:24] <allandee> linuxfreaker: from your pastebin it seems as if the vmware script doesn't find gcc at all, while it is in fact /usr/bin/gcc
[08:24] <allandee> so the first step would be to figure out why it doesn't search your PATH
[08:25] <allandee> or if it does, and wtf it doesn't follow the symlink to your actual gcc
[08:25] <linuxfreaker> allandee: I tried removing build-essential and gcc and reinstalling but the same issue
[08:25] <IdleOne> allandee: the first step would be to move this offtopic support to the proper channel, #ubuntu+1
[08:25] <linuxfreaker> no-one out there
[08:25] <linuxfreaker> Can we try out it fix
[08:25] <Onryo> Linuxfreaker can you repost the url to your pastebin I have seen this problem before in Debian
[08:25] <sandeman> How do i disable "dead keys"?
[08:25] <IdleOne> linuxfreaker: you haven't joined the channel yet
[08:26] <linuxfreaker> http://pastebin.com/ChgLZC4M
[08:26] <ThinkT510> linuxfreaker: allandee can join you in the proper channel
[08:26] <allandee> linuxfreaker: you can't move on until you determine for certain that 1) "gcc" is covered by what is in your PATH environment variable and that 2) the script doesn't obey your environment
[08:26] <linuxfreaker> I can see AllenBell
[08:26] <linuxfreaker> as one user there
[08:26] <allandee> ThinkT510: which is that?
[08:26] <Bayle_> Anyone familliar with flash issues on UbuntuPPC?
[08:26] <theadmin> sandeman: Switch your keyboard layout to something without them
[08:26] <linuxfreaker> But gcc is itself not working right
[08:26] <ThinkT510> allandee: #ubuntu+1 (he is using 11.10)
[08:26] <IdleOne> linuxfreaker: there are 187 users in #ubuntu+1. You joined the wrong channel
[08:26] <allandee> on my way
[08:27] <theadmin> Bayle_: Flash issues exist on all releases, on all distros, be specific
[08:27] <linuxfreaker> ohh sorry
[08:27] <Bayle_> 10.04 Mac g5 7,3
[08:27] <theadmin> Bayle_: And the issue is?
[08:27] <Bayle_> Followed all the instruction in the gnash readme for ppc and it just doesnt work. No idea why.
[08:29] <sandeman> theadmin, how do i now wat are the ones without? when i open system->preference->keyboard there is just a list of keyboards, no mentioning of "dead keys"
[08:29] <theadmin> sandeman: Say, the US english layout has no dead keys.
[08:30] <theadmin> sandeman: If your layout is a specific language, well, it'll probably use them
[08:30] <theadmin> sandeman: Toy around
[08:30] <sandeman> theadmin, oke thanx ill try some
[08:32] <Wisien> who knows samba?
[08:32] <IdleOne> !ask
[08:33] <Wisien> what is Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME ?
[08:34] <Daghdha> Hello, i use gnome commander ow but when i MOVE files it first copies ALL files and the deletes the source. I want a program that does it immediately, if you know what i mean. ANy tips? (It does have to be GUI based)
[08:34] <helly^> I have a headless ubuntu box on a remote location. I want to be able to access it via the internett and download torrents on it. Is deluge the best and only option?
[08:34] <wols_> wildc4rd: what is the command that gave you this error?
[08:34] <bjorn__> helly^
[08:34] <Daghdha> It's buggy anyway, i want something else. I'm not on file 87 of 1. :/
[08:34] <bjorn__> ssh + screen + rtorrent
[08:34] <wols_> helly^: transmission has a webinterface too IIRC
[08:34] <Daghdha> Yes it has. I like transmission. It's ok
[08:35] <helly^> IIRC?
[08:35] <wols_> !iirc
[08:35] <helly^> mk :-)
[08:35] <Blade20> how do i put block list in transmission if the spot to put the url is missing?
[08:35] <theadmin> helly^: Deluge is quite good, Transmission has a web UI... qBittorrent is a good one too
[08:35] <helly^> bjorn_, and how do I load torrents onto it?
[08:36] <bahamas> i want to install ubuntu on my laptop. should i go with the latest version or with 10.04?
[08:36] <helly^> I've installed Deluge, but I just get "Error" in the progress bar. Nothing in the logs..
[08:37] <Blade20> bahamas, best to try live cd's first... try out different ones and see what one works for you
[08:37] <bjorn__> helly^, what I usually do is that I just "Connect to server" in gnome and copy the files, but rtorrent also supports downloading the torrent from an url
[08:37] <helly^> bahamas, what kind of laptop? What specs?
[08:37] <wols_> bahamas: latest probably. especially if it's a new laptop
[08:37] <bjorn__> just hit backspace and enter url
[08:37] <bjorn__> but remember to run rtorrent in a screen session and detatch before logout.
[08:37] <Blade20> in transmission ... the place to put the url for block list.. it's not there... how do i add a block list?
[08:38] <helly^> like -b ?
[08:38] <helly^> I'll chekc out rtorrent then.
[08:38] <helly^> check*
[08:38] <bahamas> helly^: inspiron n3010, i5, 3 GB RAM, 320GB hdd
[08:38] <helly^> bahamas, then I would go for the newest :-)
[08:39] <bjorn__> yeah, its a nice program, got bit more of a learing curve since it's CLI but you get the basics in 5 minutes
[08:39] <Daghdha> this is useless, when i stop the copy it removes the source dir. Although the copy was cancelled. GNome COmmander exit.
[08:39] <jolson> Hi! I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 (no upgrade). Now Evolution and NetworkManager have lost their memory and ask me for passwords every time I start them. Immediately afterward, the Gnome keyring want's me to choose a password and enter it twice. How can this be solved?
[08:39] <bahamas> helly^: yeah, i'm downloading it as we speak. thanks
[08:39] <allandee> Blade20: it might be that you have to enable the web-UI on the server, and connect to it through a web-browser
[08:40] <Blade20> allandee, why would i have to do that....
[08:40] <Blade20> transmission 2.05
[08:40] <almoxarife> Blade20: what version are you using?
[08:40] <Blade20> almoxarife, 2.05
[08:41] <Daghdha> mc it is
[08:41] <Blade20> under the privacy tab it should have a spot to put a url... for the block list... but it dont
[08:41] <Daghdha> mc is hardened widely used righT?
[08:41] <lorraine> Is anyone using OzUnity please?
[08:43] <Blade20> allandee,  almoxarife  any ideas why the box for the url would be missing?
[08:43] <esd> is it possible to leave irssi running after i close terminal/ssh?
[08:43] <almoxarife> Blade20: in options there is a 'privacy' tab?
[08:44] <IdleOne> !screen | esd
[08:44] <Blade20> almoxarife, yes just to the right of the speed tab
[08:44] <esd> ok
[08:44] <esd> thank you
[08:45] <almoxarife> Blade20: in the privacy tab there is a input box for a url?
[08:45] <Blade20> almoxarife, says blocklist and has a check box for enable blocklist and enable auto updates but no place to put the url... in the past i have used transmission and it always had a place to enter a url...
[08:45] <airtonix> IdleOne: is screen just linked to byobu ?
[08:45] <Blade20> almoxarife, no
[08:45] <airtonix> IdleOne: i remember one day that i ran screen, and byobu appeared
[08:46] <Blade20> almoxarife, i have purged it and started over.. but to no avail
[08:46] <IdleOne> I don't use either
[08:47] <almoxarife> Blade20: odd, not sure what's going on with your version
[08:47] <Blade20> almoxarife, what version you running?
[08:47] <almoxarife> Blade20: 2.33
[08:48] <Blade20> almoxarife, maybe i should download that version and try it  out
[08:48] <Blade20> almoxarife, that version is for 11.4 tho right?
[08:48] <airtonix> Blade20: try the transmission ppa ?
[08:48] <Lasers> Blade20: Try removing transmission configuration directory -- Somewhere in your home directory.
[08:49] <almoxarife> Blade20:  no, I am on 10.10
[08:49] <Lasers> Blade20: Rename the directory -- Better than removing*
[08:49] <Blade20> Lasers, i cant find the config file for it....
[08:49] <Blade20> Lasers, or i would just put the block list there lol
[08:49] <Lasers> Blade20: Is it in ~/.config ?
[08:50] <esd> exit
[08:50] <rahul> hi ubuntu user
[08:51] <Blade20> Lasers, how would i go about looking for it?
[08:51] <Blade20> Lasers, starting at file system
[08:51] <malte_> heyea :)
[08:52] <Lasers> Blade20: Open your home directory. CTRL + H (to toggle on/off hidden directory).  Look in ~/.config -- If you see transmission folder -- Make sure it's not running. Append "-old" or something. Restart transmission and you should have clean profile.
[08:52] <rahul> any one give idea
[08:52] <rahul> about
[08:52] <Lasers> Blade20: If you don't see textbox for URL -- then Tramission GUI took that out. :(
[08:52] <rahul> windows 7 with ubuntu
[08:53] <Blade20> Lasers, thank you ... did not know about the ctrl + H
[08:54] <malte_> is on freenode a linuxmin-channel?
[08:54] <malte_> minutmint*
[08:54] <malte_> fuu
[08:54] <malte_> linuxmint*
[08:55] <lorraine> rahul I run Win 7 with Ubuntu OzUnity both 64 bit . No problems
[08:55] <ix__> .
[08:57] <wols_> !mint
[08:58] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys , anyone have any experience with installing 11.04 on a hp mini netbook?
[08:59] <malte_> yeah cool. i found the irc from linuxmint. thank you.
[08:59] <airtonix> you know... it's lucky I don't suffer from epileptic fits, becuase i just reinstalled the operating system with natty, and the computer is currently trying its best to send me into a epileptic fit by changing the screen colour rapidly
[09:02] <shnudo> airtonix: you are lucky one siezure type is dirobeing and running around.
[09:02] <Daghdha> mv it is then
[09:04] <kyle_> I'm trying to edit the /etc/ftab file to allow access to a Windows 2008 domain share.  Please can someone help this this config.
[09:05]  * scuttlefish twerps
[09:06] <kyle_> I'm trying to edit the /etc/ftab file to allow access to a Windows 2008 domain share.  Please can someone help this this config.
[09:07] <Lasers> !fstab | kyle_
[09:08] <kyle_> Lasers: Yeh but i would lik some mor help...
[09:08] <wols_> kyle_: have you managed to connect to it via commandline yet?
[09:09] <kyle_> wols_: no. you mean run the line in terminal...
[09:10] <kyle_> wols_ it's a share and I want to put username and password in the line... I don't mind that.
[09:15] <daysmen> anyone know how to solve kdes downloadable themes etc http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml
[09:16] <Algorith> k
[09:18] <AdvoWork> im doing //192.168.0.5/shared /mnt/shared cifs exec,credentials=/mnt/credentials,uid=1000,gid=1000  in /etc/fstab. The user(uid 1000) can make a new file and file save as to /mnt/shared fine. But if they try and copy a file from the desktop and paste it, it wont work. Any suggestions please?
[09:20] <codemagician> i used to have an applet running that monitored incoming msn messages. i removed it but when someone comes online on msn ubunta plays a tone
[09:20] <codemagician> how to I disable this annoying thing?
[09:23] <str0ng> hi all..
[09:23] <str0ng> i need help.. anyone here familiar how to resolve the brightness issue for HP Pavilion laptops?
[09:24] <quiescens> AdvoWork: "it wont work" isn't particularly helpful, do you get an error, and if so what? does nothing happen at all? or does it seem to copy, but when its done there's nothing there?
[09:24] <str0ng> brightness keys (Fn) doesn't worked :(
[09:25] <Blade20> Lasers, still can not add the url... but have added block list ... thank you very much for your help :)
[09:26] <Lasers> Blade20: Good luck blocking those pesky IP addresses!
[09:26] <cypha> how can i prevent my terminal from opening links in chrome?
[09:27] <cypha> i set firefox as my default, but that didn't change anything
[09:27] <Blade20> cypha, uninstall chrome ?
[09:27] <allandee> I installed 11.04 yesterday, and it's running fine except that switching windows has a delay, in the default UI. any tips?
[09:27] <cypha> seriously? that's the best solution Blade20 ?
[09:28] <Lasers> cypha: Look for preferred applications (or something similar). Does it say Firefox?
[09:28] <allandee> cypha: try left click upper right corner, then
[09:28] <Blade20> cypha, no .. give me a min let me look at what i used to do it... you have tell what program you want things to open with... one min
[09:29] <cypha> Lasers: yes, i have it set to firefox
[09:29] <cypha> and i even restarted
[09:29] <allandee> cypha: system setings
[09:29] <allandee> oh, ok, you've been there then
[09:29] <ronubo>     /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[09:29] <allandee> ronubo: you need to have the slash as the first character of your line
[09:30] <allandee> in order for it to be interpreted as a command
[09:30] <Lasers> cypha: Paste this in the terminal --> export BROWSER="firefox"  And try click the link in terminal. That works?
[09:31] <Ben64> anyone know how I can essentially hijack my own domain using a bind server? I want to be able to adjust the A record(s) instantly
[09:31] <cypha> www.google.com
[09:31] <allandee> ben64: set ttl to 0 if you control the domain
[09:31] <Blade20> cypha i used Ubuntu Tweak to set mine
[09:31] <cypha> Lasers: nope, still chrome
[09:31] <cypha> Blade20: i installed kde
[09:31] <Ben64> allandee: yeah but that won't work till it updates in the first place, which could take 24 hrs
[09:31] <cypha> can i still use ubuntu tweak?
[09:31] <Lasers> cypha: Make the switch to Chromium! ;3
[09:32] <allandee> ben64: out of luck, then
[09:32] <Blade20> cypha do you have Ubuntu Tweak ?
[09:32] <Ben64> but i have bind : /
[09:32] <allandee> ben64: unless you take over the root servers ;p
[09:32] <cypha> Lasers: chromium is TOtALLY slow after like 5,6 tabs are open
[09:32] <Lasers> !ubuntutweak
[09:32] <Blade20> cypha,  i dont know i would have to log out and back in to KDE to find out lol
[09:32] <Ben64> can't my bind pretend to be the main server
[09:33] <Blade20> oops... ok... nm
[09:33] <Blade20> lol
[09:33] <Blade20> forget i said that
[09:33] <Blade20> :P
[09:33] <allandee> ben64: it would have to pretend to be the root server then, and I don't think anyone would believe it
[09:33] <allandee> (one of the root-servers, rather)
[09:33] <Ben64> all i care about is my phone believing it
[09:33] <allandee> that's easier!
[09:34] <Ben64> i would just modify /etc/hosts, but my phone is still locked down
[09:34] <Blade20> sorry Lasers i did not know
[09:34] <allandee> set your phone's dns server to be your box
[09:34] <Ben64> did that
[09:34] <allandee> (if it has an official ip)
[09:34] <Blade20> cypha, what you are looking for is file type manager....
[09:34] <allandee> ok, can your box resolve official names?
[09:34] <Blade20> so what ever you need to do to find that
[09:35] <Ben64> allandee: yeah it resolves everything fine
[09:35] <cypha> Blade20: i'm in the file association manager
[09:35] <cypha> now what?
[09:36] <allandee> Ben64: just to be sure, try "dig @<your-dns-ip> google.com" and "dig @<your-dns-ip> your-cool-domain"
[09:36] <Blade20> cypha, find the file that you want to change the association with
[09:36] <codemagician> when I hit close on pigin messenger there is no icon on the top bar.... did I remove something by mistake?
[09:36] <allandee> Ben64: from outside of your network
[09:36] <cypha> it's not a file...it's urls as a whole
[09:36] <codemagician> should my running apps have icons on the top bar of gnome?
[09:37] <Ben64> outside my network? :| but the server is this computer
[09:37] <Lasers> codemagician: 10.04 LTS?
[09:37] <Ben64> dns server*
[09:37] <staRrr> codehotter: in your notification area ?
[09:37] <Lasers> codemagician: Sounds like you removed the notification area.
[09:38] <allandee> ben64: something akin to going to your library and trying.  I assume your phone is on the internet through 3g?
[09:38] <Ben64> wifi
[09:38] <allandee> (or similar)
[09:38] <allandee> ow
[09:38] <codemagician> Lasers, but when I try to add notifiction area back nothing appears
[09:38] <allandee> still, those tests holds true when trying from your, uhm, server?
[09:39] <nankura> anyone here good with conky?
[09:39] <Lasers> codemagician: What Ubuntu version?
[09:39] <codemagician> Lasers, 11.04 recently upgraded from 10.10
[09:39] <micols> how do you fetch xt_state for ubuntu , it seems it is a redhat kernel but ubuntu dist is this possible?
[09:40] <micols> iptables state module isnt there it seems
[09:40] <Lasers> codemagician: Ah. I don't know. I haven't touched 11.04 myself. :)
[09:40] <micols> couldn't find it in apt
[09:40] <micols> it is a virtual server
[09:40] <micols> el8 kernel or such I think it said
[09:40] <Blade20> nankura, no but i'm learning... will help you as i learn if nobody can help before that
[09:40] <Lasers> codemagician: !resetpanels could help -- but there are no panels in 11.04 and I don't know if it worked in 11.04
[09:40] <wols_> micols: I told you already you run inside a VPS. you cannot load any kernel modules at all. ever
[09:40] <codemagician> Lasers, how to I reset the panels
[09:40] <codemagician> Lasers, im not using unity
[09:41] <Lasers> !resetpanels | codemagician
[09:41] <micols> wols_: you didn't highlight me then, didn't see your message , what do you do then ? normal iptables work , but I need iptables state module
[09:41] <Lasers> codemagician: This might work -- I don't know. Don't take my word for it.  .__.
[09:41] <micols> uhm, I think it is a dedicated server actually, not sure if it is a vserver
[09:41] <Blade20> nankura, what are you needing to do with the conky
[09:41] <nankura> um i just installed conky but im a total noob at configuring it, it works fine, if i go to the terminal and type conky it comes up, but on the far left of the screen and with no transperancy. i want it on the left far side with transperancy
[09:41] <codemagician> Lasers, what is it supposed to do?
[09:42] <livingdaylight> Greetings Comrades
[09:42] <wols_> micols: if it is a dedicated server, then install a ubuntu kernel. RH kernels aren't supported here. but as I said: you cannot do that, not enough rights
[09:42] <Lasers> codemagician: Reset the panels to default.
[09:42] <ComradeHaz`> Hello livingdaylight :)
[09:42] <codemagician> Lasers, i ran the first part and now I have no top or bottom bar
[09:42] <livingdaylight> is there a simple paint application, equivalent to 'paint' in windows? gimp would be overkill
[09:42] <livingdaylight> ComradeHaz`, Hello :)
[09:43] <micols> hm ok, shame - then the only option is to compile from source the module
[09:43] <jrib> livingdaylight: apt-cache search paint
[09:43] <ikonia> micols: that won't work
[09:43] <micols> assuming the kernel will allow iptables state to work
[09:43] <codemagician> Lasers, it appears to be back to the default having killed it
[09:43] <jrib> livingdaylight: apt-cache search -n paint
[09:43] <Blade20> nankura, wols and lasers are 2 that may know more about it than i
[09:43] <livingdaylight> jrib, I thank thee
[09:43] <Lasers> !conky | nankura
[09:44] <Lasers> nankura: That channel is great for supports. Also, you have to configure stuffs first to see changes. It's not click and fire. Lot of parameters to add/remove/tweak.
[09:44] <Lasers> nankura: #conky
[09:44] <allandee> I installed 11.04 yesterday, and it's running fine except that switching windows has a delay, in the default UI. any tips?
[09:45] <Lasers> codemagician: Great.
[09:45] <ikonia> allandee: where you not asking about this yesterday
[09:45] <allandee> ikonia: I've been asking all night.
[09:45] <ikonia> allandee: as I recall you had 8GB of ram and people have given you many times
[09:45] <nankura> thanks guys
[09:45] <codemagician> Lasers, thanks
[09:45] <ikonia> allandee: people have given you many tips all night
[09:46] <allandee> ikonia: I have followed all tips, yet the situation is the same.
[09:46] <Lasers> livingdaylight: gnome-paint looks promising.
[09:46] <ikonia> allandee: which ones have you followed, what have you done so far ?
[09:46] <micols> ikonia: why?
[09:47] <ikonia> micols: it just won't.
[09:47] <kyle_> OK, so I can use this line mount -t cifs //cca2/users/Staff/Kyle.Wadman /media/Profile -o user=kyle.wadman <<-- To connect to my windows share. How do i put this into ftab and with the password. It dosn't seem to work..
[09:47] <micols> state checking in iptables won't work , but normaly iptables will, and why?
[09:47] <ikonia> micols: as Pici suggested, contact your hosting provider, they can resolve it for you
[09:47] <nankura> btw
[09:47] <allandee> ikonia: quadruple-checked that I in fact have the lastest nVidia driver, turning of the composite_manager of metacity, restarting a slew of times after each, doing a full apt-get udpate ; apt-get ugrade
[09:47] <ikonia> micols: because your kernel is not unique to your machine, it's run at the hypervisor level
[09:47] <livingdaylight> Lasers, indeed, I was just installing it when you said it. It looks very similiarto windows paint application in their accessories. Just need something to import images to with view to add simple lines and arrows with text to it
[09:47] <allandee> restarting after that
[09:47] <allandee> uhm
[09:48] <nankura> i know theres no ubuntu developers in here, but i wanna say thanks to ubuntu for inventing xubuntu, its an amazing distro and all my games run like a dream come true, not even windows 7 ran them like this!
[09:48] <Blade20> cypha, lxde is another GUI
[09:48] <allandee> yea, checking temperatures of my gpu core, and cpu core
[09:48] <ikonia> allandee: are you using the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repos or from nvidia.com
[09:48] <allandee> turning on and off ACPI before boot
[09:48] <ikonia> allandee: are you using the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repos or from nvidia.com
[09:48] <allandee> ikonia: ubuntu repos
[09:48] <ikonia> at_11691: that's good.
[09:48] <ikonia> allandee: that's good. now have you checked that xorg is actually using that driver ?
[09:49] <idlemind324> how come ubuntu can't have usernames that have dots or dashes in them?
[09:49] <allandee> ikonia: [    17.372] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  270.41.06  Mon Apr 18 15:11:28 PDT 2011
[09:49] <livingdaylight> Lasers, there was GNU paint aswell, but it didn't have as high a rating as gnome-paint, although it looks much the same.
[09:49] <allandee> ffrom /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:49] <ikonia> allandee:  do you have a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:49] <iceroot> idlemind324: that is not an ubuntu-specific issue
[09:50]  * livingdaylight wonders whether the star-ratings system in Ubuntu software can relied on to tell us an appliatons quality
[09:50] <allandee> yes
[09:50] <ikonia> allandee: would you mind pastebinning it please.
[09:50] <codemagician> how to I get rid of these stupid scroll bars in Ubuntu 11.04
[09:50] <codemagician> ?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> codemagician: another theme?
[09:51] <allandee> ikonia: I will
[09:51] <codemagician> lotuspsychje, they seem to be some stupid feature of natty?
[09:51] <codemagician> "overlay" scrollbars
[09:51] <allandee> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/z6cv9W5R
[09:52] <allandee> ikonia: I swear, that's it
[09:52] <codemagician> http://www.opiniond.com/2011/04/ubuntu-11-04-overlay-scrollbars/
[09:52] <jrib> codemagician: apparently setting  LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 or removing overlay-scrollbar* should do it...
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> codemagician: doesnt bother me
[09:52] <bahamas> when using usb startup disk creator, does the window close when it finishes? it seems to have stopped, because there is no strain on my pc, but the window hasn't disappeared, although it doesn't display anything but the title
[09:52] <ikonia> allandee: ok, there is a problem there
[09:52] <allandee> ikonia: yay!
[09:52] <ikonia> allandee: add the line Driver "nvidia" to that
[09:52] <allandee> ikonia: pray tell :)
[09:52] <ikonia> allandee: put it under the options line
[09:52] <codemagician> jrib, where do I set this value please?
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: did you create an ubuntu disk?
[09:53] <jrib> codemagician: you can try ~/.profile but internet says /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[09:53] <ogadum1> is it possible to interrupt a read() in C++ programming?
[09:53] <kyle_> OK, so I can use this line mount -t cifs //cca2/users/Staff/Kyle.Wadman /media/Profile -o user=kyle.wadman <<-- To connect to my windows share. How do i put this into ftab and with the password. It dosn't seem to work..
[09:53] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: a bootable usb, yes
[09:54] <ogadum1> so i want to stop a read while the read is waiting for data.
[09:54] <cypha`> Blade20: wtf, there are no windows
[09:54] <codemagician> jrib, ah, i just removed them using sudo apt-get purge so I'll reboot and see
[09:54] <ikonia> cypha`: tone down the language please.
[09:54] <cypha`> Blade20: can I create menus?
[09:54] <idlemind324> codemagician you can also completely remove them by entering: sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: dont think the window dissapears after, not sure...
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> bahamas:did you try the usb disk if working at boot?
[09:55] <livingdaylight> Lasers, half the features have not been implemented in gnome-paint, it says when I click on them
[09:55] <Blade20> cypha, i told you that it's a gui but not really
[09:55] <ikonia> allandee: do you understand what I've asked you to do ?
[09:55] <digital_rouge> hello all im having an interusting user error issue please let me know when someone can help
[09:55] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by that? i haven't removed the usb yet. maybe i should try to do that, because if it's still being used, i shouldn't be able to
[09:56] <Lasers> livingdaylight: Try something else. GIMP is fine. You have to play around with it first.
[09:56] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: removing worked, but weirdly enough that window doesn't have a close button
[09:56] <digital_rouge> i have an opengl problem in 11.04
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:57] <livingdaylight> Lasers, gimp, sure. I see that more as a photoshop alternative. I was looking rather for ms's paint alternative, a simple complement for simple and quick tasks
[09:57] <livingdaylight> gimp is quite a beast
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> livingdaylight: you could try http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[09:58] <AdvoWork> how can i do a ln from a folder on my desktop to a mnt? i've tried ln /home/user/Desktop/newfolder /mnt/allfiles but it said i can't do a hard link?
[09:58] <Algorith> there are quit a few painter-ish programs online that work in a browser
[09:58] <luoshu> -s
[09:59] <allandee> ikonia: I'm sad to report there was no change
[09:59] <Lasers> AdvoWork: "ln -s" for symbolic linkage.
[09:59] <livingdaylight> lotuspsychje, thank you. I'll take a look, although if using gnome I prefer to use gnome apps, rather than import entire kde libraries
[10:00] <digital_rouge> is this the ubuntu tech support channel?
[10:00] <Lasers> digital_rouge: Yes.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> livingdaylight: you could try software centre too for lightweight paint packages for gnome
[10:00] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: yes, i went there initially, but then i followed the instructions on the download page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[10:00] <digital_rouge> ok thank you anyone available to help me with an issue
[10:00] <allandee> I think this is a channel with helpful, knowledgable Ubuntu users.
[10:01] <th0r> livingdaylight: have you looked at mtpaint?
[10:01] <Lasers> !ask | digital_rouge
[10:01] <ikonia> allandee: that's fine, you rushed off before I'd finished
[10:01] <allandee> ikonia: I tend to do that
[10:01] <ikonia> allandee: can you now re-pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so I can see how it currently stands
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: maybe try the startup disk if it boots?
[10:02] <livingdaylight> lotuspsychje, yes, in fact I did. There are basically two. gnome-paint and gnu-paint. With gnome paint half the features are not yet implemented, and that was highly star rated, yikes! Have not tried the lesser star-rated gnu-paint yet
[10:02] <livingdaylight> th0r, I think that is for tablets?
[10:02] <elv> Hi! I need to set modulation of my wifi card to 802.11n i used "sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu 11n" but i got "Error for wireless request "Set Modulation" (8B2F) : invalid argument "11n". " i have a 5100agn intel card
[10:02] <digital_rouge> ok i was trying to enable desktop cube , i had a box pop up asking me if i wanted to disable opengl i clicked it not knowing everything would disappear except my wall paper
[10:02] <ryan__> good morning! (if you are in EST). i'm experiencing some video problems....
[10:03] <kyle_> OK, so I can use this line mount -t cifs //cca2/users/Staff/Kyle.Wadman /media/Profile -o user=kyle.wadman <<-- To connect to my windows share. How do i put this into ftab and with the password. It dosn't seem to work..
[10:03] <th0r> livingdaylight: no, I have just started playing with it, but it looks like it might work for you. That is MTpaint, not MYpaint
[10:03] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: i'm trying it now. it seems to be stuck after 'boot:'
[10:03] <bahamas> above there's a message saying 'Unknown keyword in configuration file.'
[10:03] <livingdaylight> th0r, my bad, I was looking at MYpaint which is rather geared towards tablets. Will take a look
[10:03] <digital_rouge> and when i tried to reinstall ubuntu from a disk it would load splash then  screen would go black before main menu cam up
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> livingdaylight: xpaint, gpaint maybe
[10:05] <livingdaylight> th0r, oddly mtpaint is not in Ubuntu's Software Centre
[10:05] <ryan__> when i am looking at my desktop, and drag an item across it, it leave a window trail all the way until i stop dragging it. i just installed ub 11.04
[10:05] <allandee> ikonia: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123780
[10:06] <th0r> livingdaylight: odd. I am running debian, thought debian was actually a subset of ubuntu when it comes to software
[10:06] <ikonia> allandee: can you now please pastebin the output of the command "lsmod | grep -i nvidia"
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: wich ubuntu version are you trying to make?
[10:07] <livingdaylight> lotuspsychje, there's Pinta too
[10:07] <bahamas> lotuspsychje: latest stable version, 11.04
[10:07] <allandee> it's just a line: nvidia               9766978  38"
[10:08] <DistroJockey> !inkscape | livingdaylight
[10:08] <ikonia> allandee: ok, quick test, in the xorg.conf file, change the nologo value to false, restart X and see if you get an nvida logo flash on screen
[10:09] <allandee> ikonia:  I will.  brb.
[10:09] <livingdaylight> DistroJockey, inkscape is awesome, but I'm looking for a simple alternative to paint in that other non-free os
[10:09] <digital_rouge> how do i enable opengl from root shell prompt?
[10:10] <th0r> livingdaylight: there is a deb for mtpaint at sourceforge
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> bahamas: are there other sort of data on usb stick beside your iso image?
[10:10] <DistroJockey> livingdaylight: Well. Inkscape is pretty simple and will do line and text
[10:10] <livingdaylight> th0r, thx
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> take care
[10:11] <trap24> someone is logged into my machine using ssh. i gave him my IP and password. now he's working now using my terminal commands. how to view what commands he types in realtime ?
[10:11] <SwedeMike> trap24: you can't.
[10:11] <trap24> i'm pretty interested. i tried history.. it did'nt worked
[10:12] <trap24> SwedeMike: what ?? plz.. i can't see what he types into my machine. thats too bad :/
[10:12] <SwedeMike> trap24: or hm, perhaps you could ttysnoop him, when I think of it.
[10:13] <SwedeMike> trap24: but you have to prepare things first and he has to log out and re-login after you implement ttysnoop
[10:13] <SwedeMike> trap24: another way could be if you both did screen -x first in the session
[10:13] <allandee> ikonia: ok, now you have my whole attention ;)  the logo did not show.
[10:13] <SwedeMike> trap24: so if you're both logged in as the same user, screen -x will solve the problem if you both run int
[10:13] <digital_rouge> trying to reinstall ubuntu screen goes blank after splash screen
[10:14] <allandee> ikonia: 	Option	"NoLogo"	"False" like this right?
[10:15] <trap24> SwedeMike: ok, i'm trying those stuffs you told me. Thanks :D :P
[10:16] <daedra> Ctrl+Alt+Shift+{<Up>,<Down>..} moves the active window to another workspace. What key sequence, if any, moves the active window to another _monitor_
[10:16] <allandee> ikonia: the option is being recognized: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123782
[10:16] <daedra> ?
[10:17] <digital_rouge> initiating #ubuntu chat virus all will be destryoed :p
[10:17] <trap24> SwedeMike: there is no screen to be attached
[10:17] <daedra> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 in GNOME with Ubuntu Classic
[10:18] <daedra> (as opposed to the default, Unity)
[10:19] <mark49> @seek hitch
[10:20] <elv> any ideas how to set/check that i am using really 802.11n on wifi?
[10:21] <Algorith> q
[10:21] <daedra> elv: that's an interesting question. What features does N have that a/b/g do not?
[10:22] <allandee> ikonia: so to wrap up, after rebooting the logo did not show.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log showed that the   Optional "NoLogo" "False" was recognized by     by xfree upon starting -- however, there was no nvidia logo
[10:22] <elv> daedra: i need hi-seed lan using  300 Mb/s
[10:22] <allandee> (I would recognize it)
[10:22] <elv> only 802.11n get this speed
[10:22] <allandee> summarize rather than wrap up
[10:23] <allandee> elv: N seems to be better at instability too
[10:23] <elv> allandee: no problem here
[10:23] <elv> is 802.11n is out since 2009
[10:23] <klossor> elv do you get good throughput on that? does the write speed of a non ssd hard drive slow down transfers on n?
[10:24] <allandee> elv: yea, I might just have crappy hardware
[10:24] <daedra>  elv: try max'ing out your network and monitor the speed then. Then you'll know if it's N
[10:25] <elv> but why i cannot use iwconfg command?
[10:25] <allandee> elv: in Ubuntu?
[10:25] <elv> yep
[10:26] <allandee> do you have the "wireless-tools" package installed?
[10:26] <elv> allandee: yep
[10:26] <allandee> what happens when you type "ls -l /sbin/iwconfig" in a terminal window?
[10:27] <elv> allandee: is not that problem, "sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu 11g" --> "SET failed on device wlan0"
[10:27] <daedra> Ctrl+Alt+Shift+{<Up>,<Down>..} moves the active window to another workspace. What key sequence, if any, moves the active window to another _monitor_? I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, with GNOME set to Ubuntu Classic (not the default Unity). Does anyone know the key sequence? I have 3 monitors and moving windows around with the keyboard would be nice.
[10:28] <elv> allandee: btw -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26904 2011-05-07 10:22 /sbin/iwconfig
[10:28] <allandee>  what about "dmesg | grep wlan0"
[10:29] <elv> allandee: only messages of authentication on the network
[10:30] <rascal999> how can i do something like passwd user <password>?
[10:30] <obfuscatr> hi all.. need help with a windows smbfs mounting in ubuntu. the mount is successful, and as root I can full read/write. other users can read however I can't work out how to allow other users write (all obvious chown/chmod before/after mount get overridden after the mount)
[10:30] <elv> i cannot even set txpower
[10:30] <allandee> elv; what does "ifconfig" say?
[10:30] <allandee> sweet
[10:30] <allandee> does your interface have an ip though?
[10:30] <allandee> ifconfig
[10:31] <jrib> rascal999: why?
[10:31] <ne2k> obfuscatr: you need to pass options to smbmount to set the group and the permissions mask. then add users you want to have access to that share to that group
[10:32] <allandee> obfuscatr: the disk is mounted /from/ a windows box /into/ a Linux mount-point?
[10:32] <elv> allandee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658566/
[10:32] <obfuscatr> ne2k, ah, I was looking at man mount for an option like that, but couldn't find it.. i'll look again
[10:32] <bahamas> how can i pause a process from the terminal if i know its pid?
[10:32] <elv> allandee: maybe more interesting is iwconfig...
[10:33] <ne2k> obfuscatr: it seems that the commands have changed. there used to be smbmount or mount.smbfs but I can't seem to find those on my linux! is this for a server? if it's a desktop you should just use fuse
[10:33] <NisargS> I really liked the super + W for thumbnail of all running application in the same workspace and super + A for thumbnails of all  applications. That isn't there in 11.04. How can I do that?
[10:34] <obfuscatr> mounting a windows file server to a local ubuntu desktop
[10:34] <ikonia> allandee: sorry, I was away from my desk
[10:34] <ne2k> obfuscatr: you need -o gid=sharegroup,fmask=664,dmask=775
[10:34] <ne2k> obfuscatr: and does it have the gui desktop installed?
[10:34] <obfuscatr> yes
[10:34] <allandee> elv: I doubt that it's something lost in translation, but I've never seen ifconfig report an ip address as "192.168.x.x"    what does netstat -rn say?
[10:34] <ne2k> obfuscatr: then just use places->connect to server
[10:35] <allandee> ikonia: no worries ;)
[10:35] <ne2k> obfuscatr: no need to mount as root, because fuse (userspace file system) handles it
[10:35] <elv> allandee: i put X on my ip address
[10:35] <ikonia> allandee: how are you getting on ?
[10:35] <obfuscatr> i'd rather do it at the command line and put it in fstab.. ?
[10:35] <allandee> elv: aaaah, I thought I was going crazy.  ok, netstat -rn?
[10:35] <ne2k> obfuscatr: well, do it the original way then
[10:36] <allandee> ikonia: no logo!  the option is recognized, and I can convince you that I would recognize it.
[10:36] <ikonia> allandee: I believe you, I wonder why the logo didn't flash up
[10:36] <allandee> ikonia: you and me both
[10:36] <ikonia> allandee: ok. so now I need you to use a tool called "nvidia-settings"
[10:36] <ikonia> allandee: launch this by running "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[10:36] <ne2k> obfuscatr: have you read this howto? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:37] <allandee> ikonia: the kernel module is loaded, xorg-server uses the nvidia module, glx extensions from nvidia is being used etc
[10:37] <elv> allandee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658570/
[10:37] <allandee> kk
[10:37] <NisargS> I really liked the super + W for thumbnail of all running application in the same workspace and super + A for thumbnails of all applications. That isn't there in 11.04. How can I do that?
[10:37] <ne2k> NisargS: install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable in there
[10:38] <love4linux> hello...anyone know how to ':set number' in vim automatically?
[10:38] <love4linux> :set number
[10:38] <allandee> elv: "ping 192.168.1.1" ?
[10:38] <jrib> love4linux: ~/.vimrc
[10:38] <allandee> ikonia: it's running
[10:38] <obfuscatr> ne2k, thanks for the help. FYI fmask/dmask are deprecated and they're now file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[10:38] <love4linux> jrib okays... checking it now
[10:39] <ikonia> allandee: ok, read through the settings, set it up as you feel best suits your needs and save it, it should save a file or try to overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf - let it do so, and pastebin the updated file
[10:39] <ne2k> obfuscatr: ah, right, thanks. I must have found an old man page on the web. bear in mind that if you use 0777 then all users will have full access, which is not a good idea
[10:40] <NisargS> and does anyone know if ATI radeon works fine on 11.04 now? I had tried it when it was new and loading the drivers caused the whole system and graphics to run really slower.
[10:40] <ne2k> obfuscatr: you should use 0660 or 0664 for files, depending on whether you want everyone to be able to read or not
[10:40] <allandee> ikonia: I will, I think that the changes will be saved to a file in a location used by more recent xorg-servers than you think, but I will.
[10:40] <ne2k> obfuscatr: no real need to make everything executable
[10:40] <ikonia> allandee: the location for all xorg servers is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:41] <love4linux> jrib the only hidden file in my home dir for vim is .viminfo
[10:41] <ionite> what should I do for my mp3 files? i got this A text/html decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.
[10:41] <jrib> love4linux: create ~/.vimrc
[10:41] <obfuscatr> ne2k, on a 'standard' install with one user called 'bob', what is a good group to set it to? is there a 'users' group ?
[10:41] <ne2k> obfuscatr: I would make a new group entirely for this purpose
[10:41] <love4linux> jrib and type the command for the line number there?
[10:41] <ionite> i got this message when i use synaptics manager: Could not download all repository indexes  The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[10:41] <jrib> love4linux: yes
[10:41] <obfuscatr> ne2k, good plan
[10:42] <love4linux> jrib okays.. trying it now
[10:42] <ne2k> obfuscatr: if you know there is only going to be one user you could just do 0600 and uid=bob and forget gid altogether
[10:42] <elv> allandee: i have an internet connection i want to know if i am usig 802.11n on the lan!
[10:42] <elv> ;P
[10:42] <maalac> ionite: check the repo if it still exist ..
[10:43] <love4linux> jrib thank you.. it works fine..
[10:43] <ionite> maalac: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[10:44] <NisargS> and does anyone know if ATI radeon works fine on 11.04 now? I had tried it when it was new and loading the drivers caused the whole system and graphics to run really slower.
[10:44] <maalac> ionite: yes that's right ..
[10:44] <NisargS> i mean, have they released another driver any time now?
[10:44] <maalac> ionite: i use to have that kind of problem most of the time ..
[10:47] <allandee> elv: good, just wanted to get an impression that you were on a hub close to the hub of your lan.  I don't know of any gui utilities that monitors the state of wifi-cards specifically, but checking the output of "dmesg" often is a good indication
[10:47] <allandee> dmesg will output kernel messages from the last x characters it has in the buffer, and drivers will write to it.
[10:49] <zteam> Hi
[10:49] <tomtiger11> zteam: hi
[10:49] <ionite> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[10:49] <zteam> Does anybody here know a decent chessboard for gnome/ubuntu
[10:49] <ionite> what should I do for my mp3 files? i got this A text/html decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.
[10:49] <raz> anyone know what daemons if have to start on natty in order to make power mgmt and hotkeys (brightness etc.) work under a non-default window manager?
[10:50] <tomtiger11> omg, guys please stop leaving so i can answer you
[10:50] <bahamas> how can i see why a usb is busy and what's keeping it busy?
[10:50] <allandee> ikonia: oh /etc/X11/xorg.conf is unchanged
[10:50] <AegisX> Hi guys. Do you know a way to get rid of the chat notifications that pop up in Unity when Pidgin is active?
[10:50] <tomtiger11> bahamas: usally your viewing somthing on it
[10:51] <allandee> ikonia: ~/.nvidia-settings-rc is changed
[10:51] <tomtiger11> bahamas: if not, close all programs and try again
[10:51] <zteam> ionite, I got the same issue, myself for some time ago, it means that there are html tags inside your music, you can either open those files with a hex-editor or just ignore it
[10:51] <idlemind324> so i've installed my nvidia additional driver but it says it's not in use. how can i be sure i am using the nvidia driver?
[10:51] <zteam> ionite, it should play those files just fine anyway
[10:51] <bahamas> tomtiger11: there should be a command to tell me what is using that device
[10:52] <tomtiger11> idlemind324: if what your using is working fine, dont worry
[10:52] <zteam> idlemind324, have you checked in hardware-drivers?
[10:52] <allandee> idlemind324: I've just been through this ;)  start with "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[10:52] <bahamas> i don't want to close all my programs, especially since it's probably something that doesn't have a window
[10:52] <idlemind324> tomtiger11: i'm having problems playing a game in wine. i think it may be related to that
[10:52] <allandee> idlemind324: to see if the nvidia kernel module has been laoded
[10:52] <tomtiger11> bahamas: oh, il have a check in a sec
[10:52] <glebihan> bahamas, fuser -a  -m /dev/sd*
[10:52] <idlemind324> it is
[10:52] <tomtiger11> idlemind324: is something not working?
[10:53] <idlemind324> tomtiger11: in detail under wine 1.2 and wine 1.3 i am unable to completely load eve online
[10:53] <bahamas> glebihan: it prints the device name followed by  :
[10:53] <glebihan> bahamas, and no number following that ?
[10:53] <idlemind324> tomtiger11: it crashes as soon as it loads the 3d station interface (well just freezes)
[10:53] <allandee> then: grep LoadM.*nvid /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:53] <ionite> zteam: i think i need a mp3 codec
[10:54] <tomtiger11> idlemind324: ohhh, um i have no idea, maybe try re installing it?
[10:54] <allandee> to see if xorg server is using the nvidia driver
[10:54] <bahamas> glebihan: ok, choosing unmount instead of safely remove device seems to have worked, although the image of the device still appears in the task bar
[10:54] <quiescens> idlemind324: you can probably try the #winehq for wine related stuff too
[10:54] <AegisX> Is there an easy way to uninstall Unity and replace it with a different window manager?
[10:54] <zteam> ionite, okey, well try to run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras from the terminal
[10:54] <idlemind324> quiescens: i'll jump there quick
[10:54] <tomtiger11> quiescens: yes, thats a good idea aswell! :)
[10:55] <somsip> AegisX: just install anoher one, and choose that when logging into the gnome session
[10:55] <jrib> AegisX: you don't need to uninstall it, just install the wm you want and choose it at the login screen
[10:55] <allandee> AegisX: you might want to consider one of the distributions with lighter UIs.
[10:55] <zteam> AegisX, search for gnome in the package-manager
[10:55] <AegisX> Oh, that's easy enough I guess. It won't clutter my system?
[10:55] <AegisX> Or mess with configurations and such?
[10:56] <jrib> AegisX: no
[10:56] <somsip> AegisX: it's worth not stripping stuff out until you're happy with your new setup
[10:56]  * tomtiger11 scratches head(Thinking)
[10:56] <AegisX> Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot. Hope I don't mess up
[10:56] <zteam> AegisX, well you can't escape messing with your config-files if you are gonna throw out unity anyway...
[10:56] <allandee> AegisX: be wary of your time.
[10:56] <zteam> ;)(
[10:56] <somsip> AegisX: which wm you looking at?
[10:56] <AegisX> I was thinking either Gnome or XFCE
[10:57] <noelferreira> i accidentaly override my .ssh/id_rsa with other id_rsa file by mistake. Can i revert to the correct id_rsa file?
[10:57] <AegisX> Though I saw a Slashdot post in which Linus Torvalds panned Gnome
[10:57] <somsip> AegisX: from memory, you can install lubuntu-desktop and get the xfce package in that. From memory though - better to check
[10:57] <tomtiger11> one at a time
[10:57] <jrib> noelferreira: from your backups
[10:57] <zteam> is 11.04 Stable nowadays?
[10:57] <ionite> zteam: thanks
[10:57] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I installed ubuntu recently, and I configured for my data to be encrypted
[10:57] <jrib> zteam: it's stable since april
[10:57] <allandee> xubuntu might be worth an hour or two, also.
[10:57] <ionite> which is better? XFEC or KDE?
[10:58] <zteam> ionite, u are welcome
[10:58] <jrib> zteam: 11.04 means it was released in april 2011
[10:58] <somsip> AegisX: always better to form your own opinions. Torvalds is not exactly a 'normal' user...
[10:58] <noelferreira> there's no backup file in the folder jrib
[10:58] <dhruvasagar> aparently I also had my swap file system as being encrypted, but I just accidently deleted and reformatted the swap partition
[10:58] <jrib> noelferreira: create backups in the future :D
[10:58] <dhruvasagar> what should i do now ?
[10:58] <dhruvasagar> anyone?
[10:58] <ionite> zteam: XFCE is better or KDE?
[10:58] <AegisX> somsip: That's true, but his comments highlighted several things that annoy me about Unity.
[10:58] <somsip> AegisX: i don't use unity myself, so I can see where he is coming from
[10:59] <GirlyGirl> ionite: Hi
[10:59] <AegisX> somsip: For example, lack of a proper program list, or the notifications that seem impossible to disable.
[10:59] <_jmp_> ionite: what's best to eat now, an apple or an orange? :-)
[10:59] <jify> hi guys
[10:59] <allandee> somsip: why aren't you using unity?
[10:59] <noelferreira> so there's no solution jrib?
[10:59] <ionite> GirlyGirl: hi
[10:59] <jrib> !recover > noelferreira
[10:59] <allandee> _jmp: avocado
[10:59] <GirlyGirl> ionite: It really depends on your likings!
[10:59] <_jmp_> allandee: =)
[10:59] <jrib> noelferreira: solution is to take this as the moment you start backing up things you don't want to lose
[10:59] <zteam> jrib, yes I know, that it was _released_ as a stable version then, but previous Ubuntu versions has alwats giving me trouble once I upgraded, that's why I asking
[11:00] <allandee> _jmp: obvious, no?  avocado is better
[11:00] <allandee> ;P
[11:00] <GirlyGirl> ionite: It isn't advisable to spend ages deciding on an interface
[11:00] <jrib> zteam: "stable" has a specific meaning
[11:00] <AegisX> somsip: Out of curiosity, what do you use?
[11:00] <ionite> GirlyGirl: kde sure looks pretty but i'm just afraid it maybe slow compared to XFCE? because i'm running on celeron on my laptop
[11:00] <jrib> zteam: in any case, read the release notes and bugs.ubuntu.com or just try a live cd
[11:00] <somsip> allandee: I've been on ubuntu 9 months or so. At first I liked the eye candy, but with upgrade to 11.04 I felt I was consrained and the system felt slower. I'm trying a minimal approach for a while now
[11:00] <GirlyGirl> ionite: how much ram?
[11:00] <somsip> AegisX: awesome
[11:00] <idlemind324> tigertom11: got it working. switched to current revision of nvidia driver and after a reboot it works (some graphics anomolies but meh)
[11:01] <allandee> somsip: I hear that.
[11:01] <ionite> GirlyGirl: 512
[11:01] <zteam> ionite, XFCE is much more lightweight
[11:01] <somsip> allandee: I want something quick and functional, not so much pretty...
[11:01] <tomtiger11> somsip: 10.10 i felt worked better for windows 7 multiboot
[11:01] <GirlyGirl> ionite: Should work, it flies on my Intel Atom, but I have 2Gb Ram, does windows 7 work on that laptop?
[11:01] <somsip> tomtiger11: I have no knowledge of W7
[11:02] <zteam> jrib, yes, I know, the meaning of the word stable very well :-)
[11:02] <AegisX> somsip: Oh, I'd never heard of that before. It looks really lightweight haha
[11:02] <jrib> !sru | zteam, this is what I take "stable" to mean
[11:02] <GirlyGirl> ionite: Ram isn't very expensive should be worth it to upgrade ram
[11:02] <tomtiger11> somsip: i was just saying thet 10.10 seemed to be faster, be ok for multiboot but 11.04 has security updates ect.
[11:02] <Onepamopa> anyone know how to bind a FN+F5 to execute synclient touchpadoff=1 and respectivly synclient touchpadoff=0
[11:02] <allandee> somsip: I hear that too. ;)  if there was a debian distro  with fvwm2 as a window manager, but with flash working for firefow, I'd be all over it.
[11:03] <somsip> AegisX: yes - I find it fast. Bi strange to get used to, but getting there
[11:03] <Onepamopa> cause touchpad on/off isnt detected @ lenovo ideapad y570
[11:03] <allandee> firefox even
[11:03] <AegisX> somsip: Not for the faint of heart, I guess. I'll give Lubuntu and Gnome 3 a try. Thanks for the advice :)
[11:03] <ionite> GirlyGirl: intel atom runs windows 7 starter pathethically
[11:04] <somsip> allandee: I'm building up a second distro in tandem to see if it does what I want, but that's OT
[11:04] <GirlyGirl> ionite: Mine runs 7 pro fine
[11:04] <somsip> AegisX: I did try lubuntu-desktop and it give me the taste t try even lighter still. It seems to be a constant work in progress
[11:04] <zteam> jrib, as I said I know what a "stable version" is what I meant by asking was not if it was released a as a stable, but if it was running stable for you guys
[11:04] <GirlyGirl> ionite: Like I said before, try a live cd and see
[11:04] <ionite> GirlyGirl: atom dual core?
[11:05] <somsip> AegisX: ..getting my seup right is a work in progress...not lubuntu as such
[11:05] <GirlyGirl> ionite: No but twin cpu set
[11:05] <AegisX> somsip: Yeah, that's the constant battle in Linux haha
[11:05] <jpds> zteam: That's entirely subjective.
[11:05] <AegisX> somsip: For some reason, Ubuntu seems to be stripping away configuration options with each subsequent release.
[11:05] <jpds> zteam: But the answer is "Yes", for me.
[11:06] <AegisX> somsip: I'm seriously considering Debian.
[11:06] <somsip> AegisX: aiming at the 200 million desktop users I guess. Need to be..easy for the less informed to use
[11:06] <jrib> zteam: define "running stable"
[11:06] <somsip> AegisX: can we take this OT? I don't like filling up #ubuntu with chat
[11:07] <zteam> jrib, , do you run into annoying bugs into it? (bugs you notice I mean)
[11:07] <jpds> zteam: All software has bugs.
[11:07] <love4linux> how can I echo/print piped commands in a bash?
[11:07] <jrib> zteam: yes, there's a pulseaudio bug I encounter with my hardware.  Like I said, you should try it and see if there's anything that affects you
[11:07] <Onepamopa> off, anyone know how to bind FN+F6 (code 0xf3 on isa0060/serio0) to execute synclient touchpadoff=1 and respectivly synclient touchpadoff=0
[11:07] <Onepamopa> ???
[11:07] <GirlyGirl> jpds: not true all large software projects maybe
[11:08] <jpds> GirlyGirl: No.
[11:08] <allandee> love4linux: tee
[11:08] <GirlyGirl> jpds: A hello world app
[11:08] <zteam> jpds, Yes absolutley, but for most systems I don't notice them (or running into them)
[11:09] <zteam> Is there any goodway to install Gnome 3 in 11.04?
[11:09] <love4linux> allandee thanks..i ll check it
[11:10] <jrib> !gnome3 | zteam
[11:10] <allandee> love4linux: my pleasure
[11:10] <ephan> Can I use Internet if I run a Daily Build of ubuntu 11.10 live?
[11:10] <jrib> ephan: I don't see why not, but please ask 11.10 questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <allandee> ephan: maybe
[11:10] <allandee> ;)
[11:10] <allandee> I help
[11:11] <ephan> thanks jr
[11:11] <ephan> jrib*
[11:11] <zteam> jrib, okey, thanks, for that, what about 10.10 then?
[11:11] <allandee> zteam: maybe
[11:11] <jrib> zteam: I don't know
[11:11] <allandee> yeah, but honestly, that's how these things go.
[11:12] <zteam> jrib, okey, thanks
[11:12] <zteam> :-)
[11:13]  * tomtiger11 is bored
[11:13]  * photon hits tomtiger11 
[11:13]  * allandee is annoyed
[11:13]  * tomtiger11 hits photon
[11:13]  * photon slaps tomtiger11 
[11:14] <CatFish> note fuck u
[11:14] <bahamas> i'm trying to create a bootable usb, but unetbootin keeps getting stuck at file 12 while copying the image and my whole computer freezes. what alternatives do i have?
[11:14]  * tomtiger11 shoots photon with a bazooka then stamps on the corpse
[11:14]  * allandee gets away from the ruckus and waits for Ikonia.
[11:14] <photon> tomtiger11: :(
[11:14] <muelli> bahamas: there is a "Ubuntu USB creator".
[11:14] <geiroffenberg> i am now here
[11:15] <tomtiger11> photon: haha :)
[11:16] <CatFish> lolz
[11:16]  * tomtiger11 is genuinely bored.
[11:17] <zykes-> anyone here that's used 11.04 with windows 2008 (RDP) ?
[11:17] <zykes-> Remmina
[11:17] <jrib> ok, please stop with the emotes
[11:17] <geiroffenberg> whats win 2008
[11:17] <zykes-> Windows 2008 Server
[11:17] <geiroffenberg> aha
[11:17] <allandee> tomtiger11: http://www.ted.com/talks/randy_pausch_really_achieving_your_childhood_dreams.html
[11:18] <allandee> watch that, and come back telling us that you are bored.
[11:18] <tomtiger11> allandee: im actually interested in that, ive watched it before
[11:19] <allandee> and, so, how do you have the conscience to sit around and be bored?
[11:19] <allandee> ;)
[11:19] <jrib> allandee, tomtiger11: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for the non-support chat
[11:19] <CatFish> hoer ballebek nie to meet u too shake hands
[11:19] <dbolser> how do I edit what services are started / stopped at what runlevels 11.04?
[11:20] <CatFish> he,s suck wishper in my head
[11:20] <iceroot> !boot | dbolser
[11:20] <iceroot> !runlevel | dbolser
[11:20] <allandee> jrib: heard.
[11:20] <CatFish> u suck too
[11:20] <tomtiger11> jrib: if your bored then its likely your going to do un important stuff
[11:20] <jrib> CatFish: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[11:20] <CatFish> fagots here
[11:20] <dbolser> ubottu: I have no idea what you are blathering on about
[11:20] <dbolser> I just want to edit which services start using a gui
[11:20] <CatFish> hakkuh bar
[11:21] <jrib> dbolser: you can't
[11:21] <dbolser> jrib: ty
[11:21] <Chris_H> Hi, where can I view the details when was my account logged into last time
[11:21] <Chris_H> ie in ubuntu
[11:21] <ikonia> Chris_H: last
[11:21] <usr13> dbolser: Read it.  Ubuntu no longer uses runlevels, they are all the same.  Your questions were answered above.
[11:21] <tomtiger11> dbolser:i thought you were a bot
[11:21] <jrib> Chris_H: try "last"
[11:22] <Chris_H> jrib; ikonia ok
[11:22] <Ben64> but i liked runlevels :(
[11:22] <jrib> ugh why did dbolser leave
[11:22] <nraic> join ##pentaho
[11:22] <tomtiger11> dbolser: are you a bot?
[11:23] <allandee> usr13: what was changed as consequence?
[11:23] <usr13> allandee: I don't think so.
[11:23] <usr13> allandee: upstart makes for a faster boot.
[11:23] <tomtiger11> all: im gooing now bye!
[11:24] <allandee> ikonia: /etc/X11/xorg.conf was unchanged, but there were changes in ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[11:24] <Chris_H> ok, my sis rebooted the system when I had suspended it in RAM. I 've lost unity and instead I have the Old interface
[11:24] <Chris_H> How do I get unity back?
[11:24] <usr13> usr13: And works just as well as it did using runlevels.
[11:24] <allandee> usr13: how is the order of launching processes during boot determined now?
[11:24] <glebihan> allandee, with System V init, runlevels 2,3,4,5 were already equal
[11:24] <obfuscatr> if my user bob is in a group 'fileshares', and a directory is 660 for root:fileshares, why can bob ls the directory but not cd into it?
[11:25] <glebihan> allandee, there is no order, services are launched based on events
[11:25] <glebihan> allandee, events can be a runlevel, when filesystem is ready...
[11:25] <allandee> gleibhan: weren't 2 and 3 user runlevels but without X, and it's authorization services?
[11:26] <usr13> allandee: see /etc/init.d/
[11:26] <glebihan> allandee, no the system was usually running on runlevel 2 (event under X)
[11:26] <glebihan> *even*
[11:26] <Chris_H> nm
[11:26] <usr13> allandee: And /etc/init.d/README
[11:28] <allandee> usr13: well, I'm pretty sure Solaris didn't have any X server running until runlevel 3, despite that README.
[11:28] <glebihan> obfuscatr, you must add the execution permission to the directory in order to be able to list its content (ie 770 instead of 660)
[11:29] <obfuscatr> glebihan, ah, thanks
[11:29] <glebihan> allandee, we're talking about the way things worked under Ubuntu, I don't know about Solaris
[11:29] <glebihan> obfuscatr, you're welcome
[11:29] <usr13> allandee: Why are you refering to Solaris?  What does Solaris have to do with Ubuntu?
[11:30] <allandee>  sysv
[11:30] <allandee> the startup system
[11:30] <allandee> sysv init
[11:30] <allandee> system five
[11:30] <auronandace> !upstart | allandee
[11:31] <cartes9> adsf
[11:32] <cartes9> fuck USA!
[11:32] <cartes9> lol
[11:33] <mega1> hello
[11:33] <mega1> i nam looking for some help
[11:33] <obfuscatr> wow, what's 'x has left, requested by y' ? is that some new polite way of kicking people?
[11:33] <allandee> right.  it's ancient and ugly, like me, but the runlevels held their old meaning also in Linux distros.  having "halt" as a synynom for "shutdown -h0" had meaning for a long time after sysv unixen died.
[11:33] <Incarus6> !ask | mega1
[11:34] <mega1> ok
[11:35] <CatFish> T.Fux suck
[11:35] <mega1> i have cloned ubuntu server10.04 onto new hd and put into new computer it runs but not decting my network card
[11:35] <CatFish> u ban me just a sec
[11:35] <CatFish> lolz
[11:35] <Incarus6> bazhang, next candidate
[11:36] <allandee> megal: can you recognize your network card in the text coming from typing "lspci" in a terminal window?
[11:36] <glebihan> allandee, the way halt works hasn't changed (it still changes the runlevel)
[11:37] <CatFish> np
[11:37] <anli_> Is there a way to change the appearance of window titles even if I dont run compiz
[11:37] <CatFish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yc0FY89CT4&feature=BFa&list=PL1CC7D0BB46BED595&index=100
[11:37] <bazhang> CatFish, wrong channel
[11:37] <CatFish> so know i am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo00000000000000000000000000000OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:38] <allandee> glebihan: the way lowering a runlevel on a sysv box is that it runs the "S*" script in reverse alphabetical order, starting with scripts in the rc.x number where x is the current runlevel
[11:38] <FroyoShark> anli_, uhhh yes?
[11:38] <FroyoShark> anli_, you can change themes
[11:38] <anli_> FroyoShark: The settings are ignored
[11:38] <digital_rouge> how do i downgrade from 11 to 10?
[11:38] <FroyoShark> oh, that's weird
[11:38] <digital_rouge> i hate this dam bar
[11:38] <allandee> glebihan: makes sense - but I guess it doesn't make sense to differentite runleveles anymore
[11:38] <anli_> ok :)
[11:38] <bazhang> digital_rouge, full reinstall
[11:38] <allandee> other than "booting!" and "shutting down!"
[11:38] <allandee> makes sense
[11:38] <FroyoShark> i was going to say that ;P
[11:38] <digital_rouge> thank you
[11:38] <CatFish> and angain please fu
[11:38] <digital_rouge> btw i fixed my problem earlier
[11:39] <glebihan> allandee, I know that, runlevels still exist with upstart, only there is no order, events are used instead
[11:39] <anli_> Always run a new ubuntu version in a separate virtualbox, then you will not get dissapointed :)
[11:39] <DJones> digital_rouge: If its just the unity bar you don't like, why not just boot into classic mode
[11:39] <anli_> Wait with installing it over the old system
[11:39] <anli_> you may miss it
[11:39] <digital_rouge> i did not know i could do that
[11:39] <Incarus6> !classic | digital_rouge, do you want to use gnome instead of unity?
[11:39] <mega1> allandee yes it is there
[11:39] <digital_rouge> i will try that
[11:40] <allandee> glebihan: that makes a lot of sense, actually.  is there a list of events?  are there categories and such?
[11:40] <glebihan> allandee, when switching to runlevel 0, you will run all scripts that have either "start on runlevel 0" or "stop on runlevel 0" conditions
[11:40] <allandee> megal: can you paste the relevant line?
[11:40] <digital_rouge> i tried to reinstall 10 but after splash screen video signal was lost
[11:40] <digital_rouge> im on 64 bit sys
[11:40] <glebihan> allandee, I don't know the list of events that can be used, but looking at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ should be a good starting point
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <allandee> glebihan: and as always with dependency systems: how are circularities handled? ;)
[11:41] <allandee> checking
[11:41] <atomms> hi! when i try to launch nautilus as a different user it does not work, any ideas?
[11:41] <mutante> on karmic, after apt-get upgrade:  dpkg: error processing rsync (--configure):  update-rc.d: warning: rsync start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)  ..<-- do i need to manually use that before to fix the dpkg error?
[11:42] <TITANO> hi all. I can solve this issue while trying to install the latest gtk+? "'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.29.14, but GLIB (2.28.6) was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best to remove the old version of GLib."
[11:42] <allandee> atomms: what do you do before launching nautilus as a different user?
[11:42] <allandee> atomms: do you know if you are shutting down your x-server?
[11:43] <mega1> 02:00 Ethernet controller: broadcom corporation netXtrene BCM5751 Gigbit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
[11:43] <jrib> TITANO: why are you installing gtk outside of the repositories?
[11:43] <atomms> su newuser (i'm not shutting down the x server)
[11:43] <allandee> megal; ok, hang on
[11:44] <usr13> atomms: nautilus is a gui interface and is at the service of the user that is running the gui
[11:44] <TITANO> yes, that version is not available in the repository yet (3.1.10)
[11:44] <FloodBot1> CatFish: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <usr13> atomms: So you would have to log in to the gui as that user before being able to run it as that use
[11:44] <FloodBot1> CatFish: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <usr13> *user
[11:45] <Christo> Hey all, Has anyone in here got 11.04 running on a lenovo ideapad s-10?
[11:45] <atomms> i see, and there is not alternative to open a graphical new session for the new user?
[11:45] <usr13> atomms: NO
[11:46] <ikonia> Christo: why don't you just tell us the problem you are having
[11:46] <usr13> atomms: Well, yes you can. Sure.  You can log on to the gui as the other user.
[11:46] <pyon> hey!
[11:47] <usr13> atomms: Log off user1, log on user2
[11:47] <Christo> Not having a problem, I am having one delivered and was wondering if Ubuntu is the best distro.
[11:47] <mega1> allandee ubuntu is running but it cant access the internet and i cant access it
[11:47] <glebihan> atomms, this command should work : gksu -u username "nautilus --no-desktop"
[11:47] <ikonia> Christo: that's personal choice, use what distro ticks your needs the best
[11:47] <FloodBot1> CatFish: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <Incarus6> !best | Christo
[11:47] <atomms> usr13: i was trying to avoid logging out and in every time i need nautilus working with a different user..
[11:47] <usr13> glebihan: Ok.. I didn't know you could do that.  Thank y ou.
[11:47] <allandee> mega1: I'm trying to figure out which module that knows about it
[11:48] <glebihan> usr13, you're welcome
[11:48] <usr13> atomms: As glebihan said, you can do   gksu -u username "nautilus --no-desktop"
[11:48] <atomms> i'll try that!
[11:48] <Christo> Cool, cool. Just trying to get peoples opinions. I am coming back to linux after many moons deveoping for different OS's
[11:49] <digital_rouge> is there a way i can make classic mode my default?
[11:49] <ikonia> Christo: try them, see what you like
[11:49] <glebihan> digilink, System->administration->login screen
[11:49] <glebihan> digital_rouge, System->administration->login screen
[11:49] <digital_rouge> i did that  will it be that way everytime i turn my computer on now?
[11:50] <digital_rouge> or will i have to set it each time?
[11:50] <Incarus6> digital_rouge, it should be default after you had chosen it one time as I know
[11:50] <glebihan> digital_rouge, yes it will be that way each time you start your computer
[11:50] <digital_rouge> thank you also another thing does the new version support all the compiz stuff? because i crashed my old install by trying to enable the cube
[11:50] <allandee> mega1: do you know if you're running the 2.6.32 kernel or later?
[11:51] <mega1> i dont know
[11:51] <glebihan> digital_rouge, unity doesn't support all compiz plugins, gnome should
[11:51] <allandee> mega1: type "uname -a" in a terminal window
[11:52] <digital_rouge> and im using the classic gnome now sinc ei enabled classic right?
[11:52] <glebihan> digital_rouge, yes
[11:52] <atomms> usr13&glebihan: gksu -u username "nautilus --no-desktop" did not work..
[11:52] <digital_rouge> you guys are great i came in earlier i couldnt get no help
[11:52] <digital_rouge> thank you
[11:52] <atomms> prompt a password window and the sendme bach to terminal with no nautilus opened
[11:53] <mega1> yes thats the one
[11:53] <photon> is there a command that lets me merge two block devices into one? e.g. if I have two external hdds with 2 TB (/dev/sdg and /dev/sdf/) and I want to make them appear as one 4 TB hard drive (/dev/mapper/my-4tb/).
[11:54] <pyon> photon: use LVM
[11:54] <glebihan> atomms, sorry I have to go but specify the error message you got, somebody else might be able to help you further
[11:54] <allandee> mega1:   hm, the kernel should have picked it up then.  do you have a line starting with "eth0" when you type "ifconfig"?
[11:54] <photon> pyon: seems overkill for such a simple task.
[11:55] <pyon> photon: that's what LVM is for
[11:55] <pyon> photon: RAID0 is another option
[11:55] <ikonia> photon: that's a very bad idea
[11:55] <photon> ikonia: why?
[11:55] <linuxR> hello anyone. In gnome system monitor I notice some occasional disk write access although I have no special programs running. Is there a way to monitor which processes are causing disk write access?
[11:55] <pyon> photon: but I wouldn't do that with external HDDs
[11:55] <ikonia> photon: do you really need 1 4TB file system ?
[11:56] <photon> ikonia: it's convenient. why is it a bad idea? because of disk failure rates and the increased risk?
[11:56] <allandee> photon: it doesn't buy you anything, and it costs something
[11:56] <raz> photon: filesystems tend to not cope very well when one half suddenly "disappears"
[11:56] <mega1> no i dont
[11:56] <atomms> this is what i get when i first change user and then try "gksu nautilus"No protocol specified(gksu:2906): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[11:57] <ikonia> photon: 1.) it's external storage so on a slow bus 2.) you'd have to use fakeraid (terrible idea) or software raid, but with external storage poor performance c.) you'd have to use gpt partition tables d.) slightest corruption and you use all your data
[11:57] <raz> also with external drives a flakey usb connection (or whatever you have) could cause quite some annoyance
[11:58] <photon> ikonia: hm ok. so, I should rather treat them as two separate drives, so that if one fails, the other one isn't hit?
[11:58] <dinesh_> i am using ubuntu 64bit
[11:59] <ikonia> photon: correct, and it's not even a failure, it's file system corruption that would cause you the main issue
[11:59] <dinesh_> can anybody suggest how to inststall
[11:59] <photon> ikonia: good point, you have convinced me. but not having to use gpt isn't really a good argument since we will have to use gpt some day any way. :p
[11:59] <mutante> what can i do about the dpkg error with rsync? " update-rc.d: warning: rsync start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5) "  and isnt that just a warning anyways, does it need to break my apt-get upgrade?
[11:59] <ikonia> dinesh_: boot from the install cd and follow the on screen instructions
[11:59] <allandee> and hdds fail, eventually.  all of them.
[11:59] <ikonia> !install | dinesh_
[12:00] <ikonia> photon: do you know how to manage the gpt partitions in Linux ?
[12:00] <raz> parted is your friend
[12:01] <photon> ikonia: yes, I read about it, never tested it though. and even if I did not know, I still have to learn it since it's only a matter of time till >2TB drives become standard usage.
[12:01] <photon> pyon, allandee, raz, ikonia: thank you.
[12:01] <dinesh_> soory i have asked a wrong question
[12:01] <ikonia> photon: it is not a matter of time until 2TB become standard.
[12:01] <dinesh_> advise how to install 64bit printer in 643bit.. its in rpm mode
[12:02] <raz> 2T already *is* standard for S-ATA drives :)
[12:02] <photon> ikonia: you sound like Bill Gates arguing that 64K is enough for everybody.
[12:02] <ikonia> photon: nope
[12:03] <dinesh_> is there anybody who can help me to install 64bit printer driver in my ubunu 64bit
[12:03] <ikonia> dinesh_: what's the issue
[12:04] <dinesh_> i have downloaded the drivers... but unable to install .. mine is 64bit version
[12:04] <ikonia> dinesh_: what model is the printer ?
[12:04] <dinesh_> in 32 bit version it has installed very easily
[12:04] <ikonia> dinesh_: what model is the printer ?
[12:04] <dinesh_> canon MF4320d
[12:04] <ikonia> ughhh
[12:04] <dinesh_> i have the printer driver.. it is in RPM
[12:04] <allandee> ;D
[12:04] <bazhang> dinesh_, check linuxprinting.org database First
[12:04] <usr13> dinesh_: What file did you download?
[12:05] <usr13> dinesh_: There wasn't a deb ?
[12:05] <dinesh_> yes it is there for 32 bit version
[12:06] <dinesh_> i there is some way to convert this rpm in to deb
[12:06] <dinesh_> can anybody help me
[12:07] <usr13> dinesh_: Did you see a tar.gz version of the driver?
[12:07] <mega1> allandee is ther a better way of cloning
[12:07] <bazhang> dinesh_, check the website I asked you first
[12:07] <ikonia> dinesh_: the cannon website contains the driver for Linux in a zip format
[12:07] <usr13> dinesh_: Can you provide download link?
[12:07] <allandee> mega1: better than which way?
[12:07] <ikonia> dinesh_: the file is o106eenx.zip
[12:08] <usr13> dinesh_: I suppose you could try converting the rpm to deb
[12:08] <jrib> dinesh_: I would check ubottu's printing links
[12:08] <mega1> well the way i did it didnt work i used acronis
[12:09] <usr13> dinesh_: With alien.   You may have to install it.  sudo apt-get install alien
[12:10] <usr13> dinesh_: and I think you have to use sudo to use it.
[12:12] <usr13> dinesh_: But as bazhang suggests, look on the manufactures website first and see what else you can find.
[12:12] <dinesh_> http://support-in.canon-asia.com/P/search?model=imageCLASS+MF4380dn%2FMF4370dn%2FMF4350d%2FMF4320d&menu=download&filter=0&tagname=g_os&g_os=Linux
[12:12] <dinesh_> this is the link where i have downloaded the driver
[12:12] <jrib> !print | dinesh_
[12:13] <bazhang> dinesh_, I suggest you check linuxprinting.org database First
[12:15] <usr13> dinesh_: Did you try configuring it first?
[12:15] <dinesh_> yes
[12:16] <usr13> dinesh_: If you have exausted other possibilities and are sure you have the correct driver, you can try converting it with alien
[12:16] <allandee> holy moly
[12:17] <takamarou> Hi all, I have a Windows 7 x64 box with two 1TB SATA Hard drives.  I created a RAID 0 on my hard drives using the Intel RAID drivers and Configuration Utility (http://bit.ly/q5uYmS).  I would now like to install Ubuntu alongside Windows.  How do I get the Ubuntu installer to see my RAID?  Or can I just install it and it will work perfectly?
[12:17] <dinesh_> how to do with alien
[12:17] <dinesh_> i have installed
[12:17] <dinesh_> can you guide how to do that
[12:18] <bazhang> dinesh_, did you check the link I suggested to you twice
[12:18] <raz> takamarou: it's likely one of those crippled soft-raids that depend on the driver to be loaded
[12:18] <usr13> dinesh_: sudo alien --to-deb file-name.rpm
[12:18] <raz> takamarou: short version: don't do that
[12:18] <takamarou> raz, alternative?
[12:18] <raz> takamarou: re-consider if you really need that raid. then buy a proper raid-card. or use *two* raid-sets (one in windows, one in linux, each with the respective drivers).
[12:19] <allandee> takamarou: a first step is to boot from Ubuntu media, and see in which way you will be disappointed, and work from there.
[12:19] <raz> the latter option probably being a bit overkill :)
[12:19] <usr13> dinesh_: As bazhang suggests, you should check the website and any other possibilities for the .deb file because it is highly unlikely they wouldn't have it.
[12:19] <usr13> I suppose the 64 bit version could have been overlooked, so...
[12:19] <raz> takamarou: you do realize that with raid0 you have doubled your risk of complete data loss?
[12:20] <takamarou> raz, I really would like to have a RAID.  I've considered a RAID card, but it seems hard to find documentation on if it will work in both Ubuntu and Windows.  Do you know of any specific card that will, or a list somewhere?
[12:20] <takamarou> raz, I'm sorry, I meant to say RAID 1
[12:20] <raz> takamarou: raid1 is much better :)
[12:20] <raz> takamarou: 3ware cards are popular in consumer space.
[12:20] <raz> takamarou: the thing with a hardware raid card is that they present the raid-set as "one harddrive" to both windows and linux.
[12:20] <takamarou> right
[12:20] <allandee> dinesh: I would like to offer an alternate view; install another OS or buy another printer.
[12:21] <jolson> Hi! I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 (no upgrade). Now Evolution and NetworkManager have lost their memory and ask me for passwords every time I start them. Immediately afterward, the Gnome keyring want's me to choose a password and enter it twice. How can this be solved?
[12:21] <raz> takamarou: however, do you really need redundancy in windows?  just let it crash and burn. :P
[12:21] <takamarou> raz, I wish that was the case.  Just went through that, and now my boss is very set on me having a RAID drive as backup.
[12:21] <allandee> raid0 doesn't actually offer redundancy
[12:21] <raz> takamarou: raid is not backup...
[12:21] <supernewbie> anjing
[12:22] <takamarou> raz, Holy cow..  CDW's cheapest 3ware drive is $200.  That sucks
[12:22] <raz> takamarou: however if your boss insists, just buy a 3ware card, they're cheap
[12:22] <raz> nah there surely are cheaper ones
[12:22] <takamarou> raz, I'm aware of that.  But it does provide some comfort in the "oh shit my drive failed" situation. We do network backups as well.
[12:22] <BusyLittleBee> RAID is a form of backup
[12:22] <allandee> jolson: heya, I hear you, but I don't know how ;(
[12:22] <Pici> BusyLittleBee: No it isn't.
[12:22] <jolson> allandee: Thanks for the life sign. :-)
[12:22] <raz> takamarou: yup. well, your problem is the "windows and linux part". linux software raid is perfectly fine - but it won't cover your windows partition.
[12:23] <allandee> jolson: ;)
[12:23] <raz> takamarou: can the windows raid be limited to a single partition?  then you could just mirror the two partitions (win/lin) with the respective software raids
[12:24] <sandy1337> hi
[12:24] <takamarou> raz, the hope is to do the RAID across two drives.  So if one drive fails we can simply drop in a new one and let it reconfigure itself
[12:24] <sandy1337> how can i install c/c++ compiler on my ubunutu?
[12:24] <Lasers> jolson: Keys & Encryption Stuffs. (I don't know the actual name). Change the password. Leave both blank for password.
[12:24] <Pici> sandy1337: Install the build-essential package
[12:24] <Incarus6> !info gcc | sandy1337
[12:24] <raz> takamarou: well, if you just want it to work without too much futzing, buy a raid card :)
[12:25] <takamarou> raz, that sounds like the plan.  Thanks!
[12:25] <Lasers> jolson: This shouldn't happen unless you have activated auto-gdm-login? :)
[12:25] <allandee> takamarou: don't ever let crucial data hit that setup
[12:25] <sandy1337> already intall build-essential now what next
[12:25] <takamarou> allandee, We do network backups, but just because I'm interested, why?
[12:26] <Pici> sandy1337: Now you have a compiler.  Did you maybe mean to ask about an DE?
[12:26] <allandee> allandee: for the same reason that you don't rely on storing crucial data in RAM
[12:26] <Pici> sandy1337: Sorry, an *IDE?
[12:26] <BusyLittleBee> What is the point of mirroring then?
[12:26] <sandy1337> what is IDE?
[12:26] <sandy1337> :O
[12:26] <jolson> Lasers: I'm using no autologin, afaik. I don't know how to change the password. Should I enter an empty one the next time it asks me? When I do that, I get the question if I really want to store my passwords unencrypted.
[12:26] <BusyLittleBee> to have a backup!
[12:26] <allandee> BusyLittleBee: spending time and money on tinkering.
[12:26] <usr13> sandy1337: sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:27] <takamarou> allandee, I'm afraid I don't follow.  You don't store data in RAM because it wipes it when the power is cut.  But even with a RAID, all my data is stored on hard drives...?
[12:27] <Pici> usr13: They already have it.
[12:27] <usr13> Pici: o
[12:27] <Lasers> jolson: Yes. Leave the password unencrypted if you don't want to be bothered with that notification to unlock the keyring.
[12:27] <sandy1337> error comes :(
[12:27] <sandy1337> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:27] <Pici> sandy1337: Integrated Development Environment.  A fancy editor that also makes compiling and debugging easy.
[12:27] <jolson> Lasers: Is that the normal state of affairs (unencrypted passwords)?
[12:27] <allandee> takamarou: aha!  so there the amount of time/value lost upon data corruption comes in
[12:27] <Pici> sandy1337: Do you already have apt/software center/synaptic open?
[12:28] <sandy1337> i don't know   pici
[12:28] <jolson> Lasers: I wonder what I have done to cause this. I recently installed the system and haven't been messing with the settings much at all.
[12:28] <allandee> takamarou: because, if you kind of trust a RAID setup, you trust that your data will be safe at least for the next couple of days
[12:28] <Pici> sandy1337: can you check?
[12:28] <allandee> takamarou: and that safety (which also is false) is very, very expensive
[12:28] <sandy1337> how can i chek , when i write synaptic on the terminal
[12:29] <Lasers> jolson: Preferences. You can turn it on/off. For me, I just leave it unencrypted. Connecting to Network is admin stuffs. :O
[12:29] <sandy1337> then it comes
[12:29] <Pici> sandy1337: Do you have another package currently installing?
[12:29] <allandee> takamarou: and bears the problem of a single point of failure
[12:29] <mega1> is there any way to get my network card to work
[12:29] <sandy1337> unable to get exclusive lock
[12:29] <takamarou> allandee, but doesn't a RAID provide my data two points of failure?  That's the whole point of having two disks?
[12:29] <sandy1337> yes pici i try to install half an hour ago
[12:29] <takamarou> allandee, two hard drives*
[12:30] <sandy1337> but then i disconet my internet
[12:30] <allandee> mega1: oh, sorry, I missed your messages a bit - did you get a line starting with "eth0" when you typed "ifconfig"?
[12:30] <Pici> sandy1337:  Is that install still running?
[12:30] <sandy1337> and reconnect again
[12:30] <usr13> sandy1337: reboot
[12:30] <mega1> its not there
[12:30] <sandy1337> ok usr13
[12:30] <sandy1337> let me reboot again
[12:31] <allandee> takamarou: well, one thing is that hdds from the same batch tend to fail at the same time, so if you ordered them in pairs, they are likely to fail around the same time
[12:31] <raz> allandee: stop spilling bullshit
[12:31] <jolson> Lasers: It seems that my password is never stored in the keyring at all. I even tried with unencrypted storage now. :(
[12:31] <raz> takamarou: just ignore him, your rationale is correct
[12:31] <allandee> and to keep redundancy for the one remaining disk, you need to have been informed of the problem, replace the faulty disk, and let it rebuild
[12:32] <Quantum_Ion> I have question for you how can I get power-top in Ubuntu Linux to run at start up, this is powertop it manages low power consumption mode in Ubuntu Linux -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[12:32] <raz> allandee: raid cards tend to beep when a disk fails and send scary messages
[12:32] <Lasers> jolson: :(
[12:32] <AlexDevilLX> Ubuntu SSH Web UI?
[12:33] <allandee> right, ok.
[12:33] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: What?
[12:33] <raz> allandee: in a desktop setting he will notice, and the whole same-batch issue is esoteric for a 2-disk mirror
[12:33] <allandee> that'll help.
[12:33] <takamarou> raz, There's always a devils advocate to every backup system.  I like to hear why each one sucks, whether it really does or not.  It makes me feel like I know what I'm doing
[12:33] <Quantum_Ion> My laptop usually heats up hot in Ubuntu Linux that is why I use low power mode
[12:33] <AlexDevilLX> Ubuntu SSH server that gives WEB UI client
[12:34] <allandee> raz: I will give way to that, if you can retell a tale where a 2 disk mirror saved data for someone.
[12:34] <raz> takamarou: yea, just take the fud lightly. raid is no backup, but it saves you from having to re-install all that crap after each disk-failure. raid1 for workstation is standard practice in most companies simply because it saves the admin-staff some work.
[12:34] <mega1> allandee there is no message like that
[12:34] <Quantum_Ion> How would you get this command to run at startup everytime you boot up into Ubuntu Linux->sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:34] <raz> allandee: ehm, it happens like once a month in any mid-sized company
[12:34] <AlexDevilLX> java ssh client?
[12:35] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?
[12:35] <Quantum_Ion> http://www.lesswatts.org
[12:35] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: You could put it in /etc/rc.local
[12:35] <sandy1337> tell me now
[12:35] <allandee> mega1: hm.  I'm not quite sure where to go from there then.  your network card has a BroadCom 5750 chip, and from the Ubuntu 10.4 specs it says that the 2.6.32 kernel included there should have the drivers in them
[12:35] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: Only drop the sudo part
[12:35] <allandee> raz: tell me of one.
[12:35] <sandy1337> how to download the c/c++ , already install the package
[12:35] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, okay let me try that and see it workd
[12:36] <raz> allandee: what is there to tell?  disk fails, disk is swapped, life goes on?
[12:36] <sandy1337> usr13
[12:36] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: The command does not look right
[12:36] <sandy1337> help me
[12:36] <sandy1337> :(
[12:36] <usr13> sandy1337: With what?  Installing gcc?    sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:36] <mega1> allandee i have coloned this from one computer and put it into another does this make a difference
[12:37] <Quantum_Ion> So sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:37] <Quantum_Ion>  > pm-powersave true
[12:37] <allandee> raz: employees are payed to do work, resulting in stored data, stored data is lost, time and value is lost.
[12:37] <allandee> this is the sort of thing you don't want to happen.
[12:37] <allandee> right?
[12:37] <sandy1337> it says gcc is already the newest version
[12:37] <AlexDevilLX> Hey, can i make SSH WEB CLIENT?
[12:37] <usr13> sandy1337: Ok, then.  What is it you need to do next?
[12:37] <raz> allandee: you're attacking a strawman. nobody claimed that raid replaces backup.
[12:37] <mega1> trying to get it to work in the new computer
[12:37] <allandee> mega1: how do you mean coloned?
[12:37] <sandy1337> how to open gcc usr13?
[12:38] <mega1> coppied
[12:38] <sandy1337> gcc is compiler?
[12:38] <mega1> cloned
[12:38] <usr13> sandy1337: What is it exactly you are wanting to do?
[12:38] <sandy1337> i want to program in my linux os
[12:38] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[12:38] <sandy1337> c /c++ programming in linux
[12:39] <allandee> raz: I am arguing that striping et al gives less security and higher cost than typical alternatives.
[12:39] <sandy1337> for that i need a compiler right?
[12:39] <usr13> sandy1337: Yes, gcc is GNU project C and C++ compiler
[12:39] <Incarus6> sandy1337, correct
[12:39] <raz> allandee: he was talking about mirroring, not striping
[12:39] <sandy1337> hmm now how to install this compiler on my linux machine?
[12:39] <allandee> and especially for home-setups.  the money spent are better spent in other areas  /unless/  you like tinkering with that sort of th ing.
[12:39] <usr13> sandy1337: it IS installed
[12:40] <sandy1337> now how to open this gcc?
[12:40] <raz> allandee: see, lemme pull the "old man" card. i'm doing this for a living for 10yrs. trust my judgement. :)
[12:40] <usr13> sandy1337: man gcc
[12:40] <sandy1337> i mean where i can program that interferance?
[12:40] <allandee> raz: it's just as effective, though.  striping to increase throughput, and mirroring to increase persistence.
[12:40] <raz> allandee: that's a raid10, but he has only 2 disks.
[12:40] <Pici> sandy1337: gcc is only used for compiling. If you want a program that lets you type stuff into it and compile from there you need an IDE.
[12:40] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: are we sure you want to program with gcc and not with an IDE like eclipse or codeblocks?
[12:41] <makesabe> Gelukkig heb ik nu de chat bereikt. Kan iemand me helpen met mijn printprobleem?
[12:41] <Pici> !nl | makesabe
[12:41] <sandy1337> i don't know which is better leeroory
[12:41] <sandy1337> because my teacher use turbo c++
[12:41] <mega1> if i install ubuntu onto the new computer is there a way i can get all programs and settings to the new computer
[12:41] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: get eclipse and give it a look
[12:41] <sandy1337> is there any way i can use turbo c++ on linux?
[12:41] <allandee> raz: ok.  let's not quarrel about it.
[12:42] <sandy1337> leeerooory_3 <3
[12:42] <makesabe> Okee thanks ubottu
[12:42] <lion42> ...lol
[12:42] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: not sure sorry but you may give wine a try
[12:42] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: its gonna be painful tho
[12:43] <allandee> raz: I maintain that redudant hdd setups are meaningless until you have at least 10 or so drives, and hardware support for hot-swapping them.
[12:43] <allandee> we can disagree.
[12:43] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J i don't want to install wine
[12:43] <raz> allandee: that's nonsense.
[12:43] <sandy1337> plz tell me how to use gcc?
[12:43] <allandee> raz: that's ok.
[12:43] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: you surely dont want to use gcc you want to use an ide
[12:43] <sandy1337> i mean how can i open to program?
[12:43] <Pici> !ide | sandy1337
[12:43] <tensorpudding> what do you want to use gcc to do?
[12:43] <Incarus6> Gedit with c++ should work fine
[12:44] <sandy1337> pici !ide? what you type?
[12:44] <leeeroooy_J> lol
[12:44] <Pici> sandy1337: look at ubottu's message please.
[12:44] <sandy1337> ok pici
[12:44] <usr13> sandy1337: You already have gcc  You might need to install wine
[12:44] <usr13> sandy1337: wine is Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer
[12:44] <allandee> raz: I can't stop, fml, but: for how long a period is it ok for everything a person, organization or company produces to disappear
[12:44] <allandee> ?
[12:44] <allandee>  
[12:44] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: the ide lets you build up the program, the compiler (gcc) compiles it and gets stuff done, you dont want to use gcc to program you need an ide
[12:44] <allandee> raz: where do you find that the risk/reward line goes?
[12:45] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[12:45] <raz> allandee: your line of reasoning is irrelevant. a desktop raid1 saves someone the hassle to re-install after most disk failures. period. that's all there is to it.
[12:45] <mega1> is there any way of cloneing ubuntu onto a new computer
[12:45] <usr13> sandy1337: vim
[12:45] <Pici> usr13: I'm not sure thats a good suggestion for a user that doesn't know what an ide is or how to use gcc.
[12:45] <sandy1337> leeeroooy
[12:45] <sandy1337> tell me
[12:46] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: what?
[12:46] <sandy1337> how can i use ide?
[12:46] <sandy1337> u said i need ide to program right?
[12:46] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: ide is a generic name you want to get eclipse, look it up on synaptic
[12:46] <allandee> mega1: i first shot is "dd if=/dev/<old partition> of=/dev/<new partition" but, at least the booting sequence is going to be shot
[12:46] <tensorpudding> sandy1337: do you know how to program?
[12:46] <sandy1337> hmm ok leeerroy_J
[12:46] <usr13> Pici: Well, good point, but would be a good place to start.  vimtutor
[12:46] <sandy1337> yeh tensorpudding
[12:47] <sandy1337> i want to do c
[12:47] <allandee> raz: ok, man, I respect your reasoning, and I think it's reasonable.
[12:47] <tensorpudding> sandy1337: well, try installing eclipse then, it has some similarity to visual c++, if that's what you're familiar with
[12:48] <raz> allandee: it's plain old math and standard practice for a reason. ;)
[12:48] <mega1> well if i install ubuntu onto new computer can i use the network to copy all programs from one to the other
[12:48] <sandy1337> leeeroooy:J
[12:48] <leeeroooy_J> mega1: not really what you want to do, if you just wanna have the same programs you can have a look at apt logs and copy them
[12:48] <allandee> raz: it's just a sour view from a guy that has seen money-spent/money-earned and flattened hackers.
[12:48] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: yeah?
[12:49] <Pici> !clone | mega1
[12:49] <Pici> !aptoncd | mega1
[12:49] <sandy1337> through synaptic i find the elipse
[12:49] <sandy1337> it was installing package file
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: install it and have a look
[12:49] <mega1> i want to turn off old computer and just run new computer
[12:49] <sandy1337> ok
[12:49] <allandee> raz: if you involve math, I can not stop this.  ;)
[12:49] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J you are bot?
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[12:49] <lion42> mega1, can you use the same type of hard drive with the new computer as the old one?
[12:49] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: what? O.o
[12:50] <lion42> If so, you could just swap drives.
[12:50] <sandy1337> bot or any person you are leeeroooy_J?
[12:50] <mega1> no i cant
[12:50] <digital_rouge> hello
[12:50] <anadon> Hey, for someone who works for connonical, in the installer, the slide show at the end, the slide that says "Mobilise your digital life"--its supposed to be 'mobilize'
[12:50] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: last time i checked i was a person lol
[12:50] <usr13> sandy1337: No, leeeroooy_J is not a bot
[12:50] <digital_rouge> i did what the guy said now windows boreders are missing
[12:50] <sandy1337> oh lol
[12:50] <allandee> raz: ok, how about this: /I/ think it's irrational to spend time and money on popular RAID-setups with the intention of increasing probability of persistence of your data.
[12:50] <anadon> lolol
[12:50] <sandy1337> then love you leeeroooy:J
[12:50] <lion42> anadon, no, it isn't.
[12:51] <mega1> the old computer is an old dell poweredge server the new computer it a dell pc
[12:51] <allandee> and I might be wrong and all that
[12:51] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: :D
[12:51] <scuttlefish> any of you messed around with firestarter and pptp vpn connections?
[12:51] <anadon> lion42: I'm doing it now, and I googled the spelling.  its wrong.
[12:51] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I just installed 11.04 freshly on a laptop, enabling NVIDIA proprietary drivers disables unity, how can I fix unity ?
[12:51] <sandy1337> oh really you don't know this is my first try on linux
[12:51] <digital_rouge> yes i havr
[12:51] <digital_rouge> have
[12:51] <sandy1337> and you helped me :)
[12:51] <th0r> anadon: not if you are using the Queen
[12:51] <th0r> s english
[12:51] <kitche> anadon: you can spell it both ways one is UK spelling the other is American
[12:51] <marshall> hye ubuntu
[12:51] <anadon> allandee: DO YOU NOT SLEEP?
[12:51] <raz> allandee: re-imaging a workstation costs $X. swapping a disk in a workstation costs $Y. $X > $Y. simple enough? :)
[12:51] <SwedeMike> anadon: there is an english speaking world outside of the US. It's spelt with an "s" in brittish.
[12:51] <anadon> O
[12:51] <anadon> :P
[12:51] <anadon> damn brits
[12:52] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: glad i did (if it'll work)
[12:52] <digital_rouge> scuttlefish i have used fireststarter what are you up to
[12:52] <usr13> sandy1337: You should buy him a pizza  ;)
[12:52] <allandee> anadon: EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT NOT THIS DAY!
[12:52] <sandy1337> hmm lol
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> anybody? can anybody even hear me here ??
[12:52] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: why a pizza?
[12:52] <sandy1337> usr13 you are a guy?
[12:52] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, I am working off of this document - >https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[12:52] <sandy1337> or bot
[12:52] <allandee> raz: yes.
[12:52] <sandy1337> ?
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> am I on ignore ? can anyone please let me know ?
[12:52] <tensorpudding> !hello | dhruvasagar
[12:52] <tensorpudding> oh, that isn't right
[12:52] <tensorpudding> well
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: hmmm
[12:52] <bahamas> how well do ubuntu and debian get along on the same machine?
[12:52] <sandy1337> how can i distinguish who is real person and who is bot?
[12:52] <allandee> raz:  raid-setups are really good for decreasing time spent on reconfiguring systems.
[12:52] <usr13> because I am an advocate of the pizza industry
[12:52] <sandy1337> :o
[12:52] <tensorpudding> !ask
[12:53] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, i'm trying to get a pptp vpn connection to work with firestarter. i've posted the ip_tables code firestarter has in their documentation to make pptp work, but still nothing.
[12:53] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: just that? u sure there is no other reason?
[12:53] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: I did...
[12:53] <raz> allandee: the majority of the difference between $X and $Y is due to loss of productivity; $user has to wait until his workstation is back, whereas with raid1 he can just keep on working and some admin swaps the disk out at night.
[12:53] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, My question is I cannot get this command to run at startup boot - >pm-powersave true
[12:53] <Pici> !offtopic | everyone
[12:53] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: when I enable nvidia propietary drivers it disables unity
[12:53] <sandy1337> nice usr13
[12:53] <sandy1337> :)
[12:53] <sandy1337> don't worry when i'll get my pocket money
[12:53] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: what happens when you run it from command line?
[12:53] <bahamas> what i'm asking basically is if there's any point in having both debian and ubuntu. i first installed debian, but i realized i'm not experienced or patient enough to make everything work, so i decided to install ubuntu instead
[12:53] <S4nD3r> Hi ! How make sure my PATH includes /usr/local/cuda/bin ?
[12:53] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, I entered this in /etc/rc.local ->pm-powersave true
[12:53] <sandy1337> i'll give it to leeerooooy_J
[12:53] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: oh, didn't see it
[12:53] <sandy1337> :)
[12:53] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: did it install eclipse yet?
[12:54] <leeeroooy_J> and im not here for money nor food lol
[12:54] <bahamas> however, i'd like to learn to use debian better later on
[12:54] <sandy1337> leeroooy_J still installing package :(
[12:54] <digital_rouge> hmmm your using both linux systems or your trying to connect to windows from a linux box?
[12:54] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Without being root I get this response -> We do not own /var/log/pm-powersave.log, refusing to overwrite.
[12:54] <sandy1337> i mean downloading
[12:54] <sandy1337> :P
[12:54] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: if you use both, there is a point to having both, right?
[12:54] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[12:54] <jrib> bahamas: honestly, they're extremely similar
[12:54] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: service --status-all   #See if it shows up in that list.
[12:54] <sandy1337> come on come help my love
[12:55] <petar> why did ``sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com'' import 21 signatures? (sorry, dont know much about gpg..)
[12:55] <digital_rouge> fuck 11.04 nothing but problems
[12:55] <bahamas> jrib: so i'm better off with just ubuntu for now, and i can reinstall debian later if i want to, right?
[12:55] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, i setup a pptp server on a dd-wrt router back in america. i'm in china going over a dsl connection.
[12:55] <boolean> morning, default runtime on ubuntu is 2, correct?
[12:55] <bahamas> digital_rouge: i'm just installing it. don't discourage me
[12:55] <digital_rouge> i cant stand it
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: sorry ?
[12:55] <jrib> bahamas: sure.  Nothing wrong with having another partition for debian, but maybe it will be easier for you to just put debian in a vbox and play with it there
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: I didn't understand
[12:55] <jrib> !runlevel | boolean
[12:55] <bahamas> jrib: that sounds reasonable
[12:55] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: both what ?
[12:55] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Nope only works when I run sudo -i pm-powersave true
[12:55] <digital_rouge> cuttlfish china has black boxes on  all internet connections that block alot of that stuff
[12:55] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: oh damn, sorry
[12:56] <bahamas> brb, i'm plugging the internet to the other machine
[12:56] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, what version or distro are you using then?
[12:56] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i started to write a response to you but i ended up writing one to bahamas
[12:56] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[12:56] <boolean> ubottu: how does one go about disabling a service ( via cmd line ) ?
[12:56] <digital_rouge> they regulate thier internet your probly running into a denial or fire wall
[12:56] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: did you put   pm-powesave true   in /etc/rc.local  ?
[12:56] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i'm sorry but i'm not familiar with your problem, i can't help
[12:56] <boolean> doh!
[12:56] <cuttlefish> digital_rouge, nah. i just installed firestarter. i can connect to the server fine if i turn off the firewall.
[12:56] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Use and I rebooted and it didn't start
[12:57] <Quantum_Ion> Quantum_Ion, I mean Yes
[12:57] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: did you install laptop-mode-tools ?
[12:57] <jrib> boolean: if it uses an old sys v init style init script, use sysv-rc-conf.  If it uses upstart, see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[12:57] <digital_rouge> im running the new version of ubuntu on my desktop, 64 bit and i enabled desktop cube now boreders are gone from all windows and they wont move on fresh install
[12:58] <digital_rouge> i tried metacity --replacer
[12:58] <boolean> thanks jrib!
[12:58] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: ls -l /etc/rc.local   #See if the executable bit is enabled.
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: ok
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: apparently no one is, or no one is interested in helping...
[12:58] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: this used to be a helpful place :(
[12:58] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: can you be more specific on what happens?
[12:59] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: unity breaks completely and it's reverting to legacy gnome
[12:59] <usr13> Quantum_Ion: see my pm
[12:59] <digital_rouge> do not upgrade to 11.04 the damn bar gets in the way everytime you try to click th eback button  or move your mouse to the left lol annoying
[12:59] <digital_rouge> it cannot be move cannot be changed
[12:59] <lion42> dhruvasagar, sounds like a blessing in disguise to me.
[12:59] <digital_rouge> anyway sim out lata
[12:59] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: i guess it could be compiz? what is your nvidia chipset?
[13:00] <cuttlefish> lol too late. i'm already using 11.4. the new gnome look drove me nuts. so i just set it to classic without effects.
[13:00] <cuttlefish> later
[13:00] <cuttlefish> **11.04
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> how do I restart xserver ?
[13:01] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Running gnome?
[13:01] <Quantum_Ion> usr13, Going to try this http://kenjiru.ro/blog/lucid-lynx
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> lion42: well I like unity's approach to using real estate
[13:01] <om26er> dhruvasagar, i use ctrl+sysrq+k ;)
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> usr13: yes ?
[13:01] <om26er> that would be alt :/
[13:01] <usr13> dhruvasagar: service gdm restart
[13:01] <nibbler__> why would 2 IP packets send in the same direction have the same seq/ack values? (different len and first is only ack, 2nd is ack,psh)
[13:01] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: you can open a terminal and do 'sudo service gdm restart'
[13:02] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: this halts the gnome login manager, quitting gnome, and then restarts it
[13:02] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: it'll function basically like a reboot of most of the processes on the system
[13:02] <allandee> killall -1 X
[13:04] <boolean> jrib: how does one know if they are using the old sysv or the new upstart? I have sysv config files all over but no sysv-rc-conf
[13:04] <jrib> boolean: check /etc/init*/service .  You need to install sysv-rc-conf
[13:04] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: it's not likely that that will fix unity if a simple reboot didn't fix it
[13:05] <cuttlefish> anyone else have any experience with pptp and firestarter?
[13:05] <boolean> jrib: it doesnt come by default ??  k ...
[13:05] <boolean> the init.d directory looks typical sysv
[13:05] <jrib> boolean: yes
[13:05] <boolean> no mention of the *.conf files mentioned in your link
[13:05] <jrib> boolean: that's in /etc/init
[13:06] <jrib> boolean: what are you trying to disable?
[13:06] <boolean> got it!
[13:06] <boolean> vmware
[13:06] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[13:06] <jrib> boolean: ok
[13:06] <usr13> boolean: You'll find not /etc/inittab file
[13:06] <boolean> it looks like the vmware server uses the old sysv format
[13:10] <sandy1337> deeeroooy_J
[13:10] <sandy1337> ?
[13:10] <sandy1337> there my love
[13:10] <sandy1337> ?
[13:10] <FloodBot1> sandy1337: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <sandy1337> ok flootbotl
[13:10] <sandy1337> :)
[13:10] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: didnt work?
[13:10] <kyle_> OK, so I can use this line mount -t cifs //cca2/users/Staff/Kyle.Wadman /media/Profile -o user=kyle.wadman <<-- To connect to my windows share. How do i put this into ftab and with the password. It dosn't seem to work..
[13:10] <sandy1337> leeeroooy_J sorry my internt disconnect
[13:10] <sandy1337> pls tell me comand again
[13:10] <allandee> ikonia?
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: theres no command, once you install eclipse it should be in your applications
[13:11] <sandy1337> to install eclipse
[13:11] <sandy1337> i have to download eclispse first
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> erm, you were doing it?
[13:11] <sandy1337> no i told you na my internet disconnect itself
[13:11] <leeeroooy_J> you could do it via synaptic, or i guess sudo apt-get install eclipse should do, if eclipse is the package name then yea
[13:11] <allandee> leeeroooy: yea, but I thought no-one was looking.
[13:12] <leeeroooy_J> allandee: pardon?
[13:12] <allandee> allande: c'est rien.
[13:12] <sandy1337> yeh sudo apt-get install eclipse this is comand i am looking for
[13:12] <militant> morning.  so i set tf2 to install on steam via wine last night and it seemed to be taking a while to 'create local game cache files' so i let it run and went to bed.  woke up now and it's still on that step, eating 116% cpu and getting nowhere
[13:12] <usr13> sandy1337: sduo apt-get install eclipse
[13:13] <allandee> militant: sounds like a rough morning
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: well I had tried reconfiguring x, it asked me to restart xserver and although I know about gdm restart, didn't know they meant the same
[13:13] <Lasers> Steam & Wine? Sounds like a nice night.
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: in any case it had completely messed up my xserver, it wasn't able to start at all, I went into recovery console removed nvidia-current and then reconfigured xserver again and rebooted
[13:14] <allandee> lasers: observing the brigther side, I like it.
[13:14] <sandy1337> usr13 i put sudo apt-get intall eclipse
[13:14] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: now unity is back to normal, but without nvidia, and I see that games are not working well they're quite slow...
[13:14] <usr13> sandy1337: did it work?
[13:14] <tensorpudding> i believe that the configuration you put into xserver probably conflicts with the nvidia driver
[13:14] <sandy1337> yeah something is start downloading
[13:14] <sandy1337> some stuff*
[13:14] <bahamas> back
[13:15] <usr13> dhruvasagar:  How did you get it messed up?  What driver are you using?
[13:15] <tensorpudding> you might want to remove you /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists, reinstall the nvidia driver and install nvidia-xconfig
[13:15] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: you just have to wait till it tells u its done or it asks "you want to continue Y N"
[13:15] <dhruvasagar> usr13: right now it's using none, just the core ones which uses onboard intel hd graphics card instead
[13:15] <sandy1337> yeh leerooy_J that ask me for y/n then i put y
[13:15] <sandy1337> and hit enter
[13:15] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: that's what I did right before I tried to restart xserver...
[13:15] <bahamas> btw, why isn't anyone fixing this 'Unknown keyword in configuration file.'? i know the solution is pretty easy to find with google, but still
[13:16] <sandy1337> now downloading start.. it is 10.4 mb right
[13:16] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: did nvidia-xconfig help?
[13:16] <allandee> bahamas: they're busy configuring RAIDs.
[13:16] <Lasers> bahamas: You better fix it for us. ;)
[13:16] <tensorpudding> wait, it's called nvidia-settings now maybe?
[13:16] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: :), no that's what messed up x completely...gdm reboot halted, I had to go alt+ctrl+f1
[13:16] <Lasers> tensorpudding: nvidia-xconfig is CLI.
[13:17] <tensorpudding> yeah
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: nvidia-xconfig is the right command
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: but somehow the xconfig it created wasn't working well....
[13:17] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: i cant tell how big it is  i never looked
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> I read this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647855
[13:17] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: that's pretty strange
[13:17] <bahamas> Lasers: for you? how do i do that?
[13:17] <dhruvasagar> and I suppose I should try and install the latest nvidia drivers perhaps ?
[13:17] <sandy1337> oh k leeeroooy_J :) i <3 u
[13:18] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: what is your nvidia gpu name?
[13:18] <usr13> dhruvasagar: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[13:18] <allandee> bahamas: escape while you can
[13:18] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I tried seting it man
[13:18] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: 525M
[13:18] <leeeroooy_J> sandy1337: :o
[13:18] <tensorpudding> okay, so new
[13:19] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Which nvidia card do you have?
[13:19] <leeeroooy_J> hi everyone, i was wondering if there was any way to know if and what proprietary drivers / firmwares are in use on my system, is there any?	
[13:19] <tensorpudding> well, that means the new drivers should work, so long as the 525M is supported
[13:19] <dhruvasagar> usr13: nvidia 525M
[13:19] <tensorpudding> by the nvidia driver
[13:20] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: they should generally show up under system->administration->additional drivers
[13:20] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15 this suggested that it is supposed to work
[13:20] <allandee> leeeroooy_J: I don't know, but I'm curious, why do you need to know?
[13:20] <bahamas> allandee: is it that bad? anyway, two quick questions: which should i choose between vim-gnome and vim-gtk?
[13:20] <Arabus> Good day. Some with a little LDAP/libnss-ldap knowledge here? I have a strange timeout error happing on my lucid machine after some hours. The logfile justs spits me a " nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable" in the face - after a nscd restart everything works fine :-/
[13:20] <allandee> bahamas: vim-gtk
[13:20] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: everything?
[13:20] <leeeroooy_J> allandee: erm, dont want to have proprietary stuff if its not needed
[13:21] <kyle_> i want to do. When i press power button, Lock PC... possible?
[13:21] <allandee> leeeroooy_J: ok, thanks.
[13:21] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: not really, it will probably only list things that were installed by ubuntu
[13:21] <dhruvasagar> usr13: when I check nvidia.com I see that the latest drivers they are offering on their site for linux 64 bit is 280.13, but the ubuntu repos seem to be install 185, why is it so outdated ?
[13:21] <bahamas> allandee: ok, thanks. second question: do you know how to enable wireless on an inspiron 3010. when i had the wired connection on, it said somewhere that wireless was disabled by hardware switch
[13:21] <tensorpudding> ubuntu has newer drivers than 185
[13:22] <tensorpudding> it has several different versions
[13:22] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: so if im using proprietary stuff for my ethernet/wifi card i wouldnt know?
[13:22] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: 185 was the latest that I see
[13:22] <tensorpudding> because the nvidia drivers often deprecate support for older cards
[13:22] <allandee> bahamas: did you try  the hardware switch?
[13:22] <tensorpudding> 185 was the last release to suppose certain old cards
[13:22] <tensorpudding> wait
[13:23] <tensorpudding> that's very strange
[13:23] <tensorpudding> the package is called 285, but it uses version 270.41.06
[13:23] <tensorpudding> nvidia-180 has version 185.18.36
[13:23] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: which package ? where are you looking ?
[13:23] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: you should know, the proprietary drivers that are capable of being automatically managed, will ask you before installing and will generally show up in that list
[13:23] <quiescens> leeeroooy_J: if you go and download drivers off a manufacturer's website and install them yourself it might now show up in the lists, but i would think you would know its installed
[13:24] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: what about ethernet ones? those too?
[13:24] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-current
[13:24] <bahamas> allandee: if by hardware switch you mean the F2 key, then i did
[13:24] <tensorpudding> dhruvasagar: hmm, you are running 11.04 right?
[13:24] <newbie> hey
[13:24] <leeeroooy_J> quiescens: thanks for the infos btw, ill give a look at all that, i need one pc of mines to have as few binary blobs as possible
[13:24] <newbie> i dont want to use ubuntu unity !!!!
[13:24] <usr13> dhruvasagar: is it GeForce GT 545 ?
[13:24] <dhruvasagar> tensorpudding: yes
[13:24] <newbie> it really sucks
[13:25] <leeeroooy_J> newbie: switch to ubuntu classic
[13:25] <dhruvasagar> usr13: GeForce GT 525M
[13:25] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:25] <newbie> yeah i switch
[13:25] <newbie> but
[13:25] <Guest78301> there is no panel and no compiz
[13:25] <allandee> bahamas: do you somewhet recognize your wifi-unit when issuing "lspci" in a terminal window?
[13:25] <dhruvasagar> why do people think unity sucks ?
[13:25] <usr13> dhruvasagar: I only see GeForcd GT 520   &   GeForce GT 545   on nvidia.com
[13:26] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: unity causes alot of troubles when the video card doesnt like it
[13:26] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: it's going to be the only default option in the next version
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> I have been using ubuntu since 7.04 and have been pretty much a gnome fanboy, it took me a while to attempt to try unity thinking I won't like it, but it turns out it's nice. I like how it utilizes the real estate
[13:26] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: but GNOME 3's shell will be available as an option
[13:26] <Guest78301> because
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: ahhh well I am myself in the middle of such problems :)
[13:26] <Guest78301> you cant use panel
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> usr13: no it's there
[13:26] <dhruvasagar> usr13: select 500M series
[13:27] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: the old gnome panel is dead, GNOME 2 is no longer the latest version
[13:27] <dhruvasagar> usr13: within that you will find the 525M
[13:27] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: i was too, nerfed unity, no point using it on nvidia/ati cards since im switching to intel (those will have unity)
[13:27] <Guest78301> and there is no windows burder in unity
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: if Unity didn't exist you'd be using gnome-shell, the replacement for the old gnome-panel etc.
[13:27] <allandee> dhruvasagar: I dislike it because window-switching is slow as molasses on a beefy box, and because 70% of it is fugly and steals screen real estate.
[13:27] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: and gnome-shell has a lot of similarities in style to unity
[13:27] <usr13> dhruvasagar: It skips from GeForce GT 520   to   GeForce GT 530
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: well unity is using the intel card on my machine, since it's unable to use nvidia, but I see the games are running rather slowly, even more slowly than how they ran on my old laptop which had a 256M old Nvidia card, but was running gnome :(
[13:28] <Guest78301> no installation candidates for gnome-shell
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: man please listen to what I am saying
[13:28] <bahamas> allandee: yes, it's Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[13:28] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Oh It is a notebook:  GeForce GT 525M
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: if you select the 500M series, within that you will find 525M
[13:28] <dhruvasagar> usr13: yea
[13:28] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: you have an optimus card?
[13:28] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot using gpt.  boot-repair isn't working.
[13:28] <Guest78301> pls say to me a solution
[13:28] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> usr13: 64
[13:29] <allandee> bahamas: let's see then
[13:29] <Guest78301> i cannot use any application in any place of desktop
[13:29] <Guest78301> i cant move
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I am currently downloading the latest drivers from nvidia.com if that's what you're going to ask me to do...
[13:29] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: gnome-shell isn't available for Ubuntu yet
[13:29] <Guest78301> this puts all app to the top of desktop
[13:29] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: hmmm the intel one right ?
[13:29] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: it released after 11.04 did, they can't add it in after the fact
[13:29] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: optimus is a nvidia technology that lets u switch cards according to your pc's usage
[13:30] <Guest78301> techhelper1:
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: yes that's the one I have
[13:30] <Guest78301> sorry
[13:30] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: that gives alot of problems to linux users (generally)
[13:30] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: and in any case, it can't be used alongside the version of Unity present in 11.04
[13:30] <Guest78301> i cannot use ubuntu 11.04 right now
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: apparently it does :)
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: any suggestions ?
[13:30] <dhruvasagar> usr13: what about you ?
[13:30] <Guest78301> i cannot move application in the desktop
[13:30] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: its not just unity, i heard those cards overheat quickly as they dont shutdown when intel is the only used
[13:30] <tensorpudding> Guest78301: just stick with Ubuntu classic
[13:30] <Guest78301> unity puts it the top
[13:31] <Guest78301> n ubuntu classic there is no panel
[13:31] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: suggestions about? sorry i didnt read if you posted your problem earlier
[13:31] <Guest78301> there is no menu
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: hmmm well I just bought this so I haven't yet tried things out
[13:31] <Guest78301> there is no compiz
[13:31] <tensorpudding> there is a panel in ubuntu classic
[13:31] <Guest78301> nothing here
[13:31] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Did you install via the package manager?
[13:31] <tensorpudding> i don't know what you mean by "no panel"
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> usr13: that I have tried almost 3 times now, yes
[13:31] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't working.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:31] <tensorpudding> if you have no panel in classic, that is a problem
[13:31] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: well when I enable nvidia proprietary drivers, it kills unity and switches back to gnome
[13:32] <usr13> dhruvasagar: And did you get any display at all?
[13:32] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: use nouveau ones, they may have switching working
[13:32] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I had, but it switched back to gnome, I wanted it to work with Unity if possible
[13:32] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Oh and gnome runs ok?
[13:32] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: nouveau ones ? sry not sure abotu that
[13:32] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: open jockey it should say "experimental 3d drivers"
[13:33] <dhruvasagar> usr13: well it seemed like, though I didn't really try plaaying games
[13:33] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: if you want to risk with experimental stuff you may have your cards to switch, else you ll have to look at the modules being developed for switching, but optimus on linux is not supported by nvidia
[13:33] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: what exactly do you mean by 'cards to switch' ?
[13:34] <AdvoWork> where would ubuntu keep domains in relation to zones?DNS?
[13:34] <allandee> bahamas: oh crap.  ok
[13:34] <bahamas> allandee: hmm?
[13:34] <allandee> bahamas: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:34] <usr13> dhruvasagar: did you look at the log file?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:34] <usr13> for clues...
[13:34] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: are you suggesting me to actually get Dell to change my graphics card from optimus to some other one ? or does the word 'switch' have some different meaning in your context ?
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: if you have an optimus card you actually have 2, the nvidia one and the intel gma, the nvidia one turns on for games and activities that require alot of "graphics" the intel one turns on to let you use your pc, the problem with linux is that its not possible to switch
[13:35] <Guest78301> look here
[13:35] <Guest78301> http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> lol you got a dell <3
[13:35] <Eroc> Hello all, i am installing a ftp server called crushftp which i have to start with : "sudo nohup java -Dcrushftp.version=5 -jar CrushFTP.jar -d&". This works even if i logout but when i reboot it is gone. I want it to execute on startup but after googling for awhile i only noticed failure.
[13:35] <Guest78301> look here http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:35] <Guest78301> where is panel
[13:35] <bahamas> allandee: please give me all the instructions if possible, because i need to disconnect here to be able to install stuff on the laptop. alternatively, i'll just install that and come back
[13:35] <Guest78301> where is panel
[13:35] <usr13> dhruvasagar: leeeroooy_J It is a notebook and the video chip is on the MB
[13:35] <Guest78301> i cannot see any panel
[13:35] <leeeroooy_J> usr13: pardon?
[13:36] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: ok, I understand that better
[13:36] <Guest78301> http://i52.tinypic.com/108i8vr.png
[13:36] <mega2> how do i add user to admin group
[13:36] <dhruvasagar> usr13: I did, the last error I see states 'no screens found'
[13:36] <bahamas> allandee: ok, i'll do the latter
[13:36] <allandee> bahamas: I would if I could, but I can only test to the step I showed you, because I don't have that particular hardware to test with here
[13:36] <om26er> Guest78301, which version of ubuntu?
[13:36] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't working.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:36] <Guest78301> ubuntu 11.04
[13:36] <om26er> Guest78301,
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, open terminal type 'unity'
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, did you change anything in cssm??
[13:37] <dhruvasagar> usr13: from the log it is quite clear that the driver is broken :(
[13:37] <Guest78301> yes
[13:37] <Guest78301> i wrote unity
[13:37] <allandee> bahamas: however, there are some hints at the end of the compilation, and if things went well, your wifi unit should connect to your access-point
[13:37] <Guest78301> but nothing changes
[13:37] <usr13> dhruvasagar: If it works in gnome, it is not broken.  Didn't you say that it booted to gnome ok?
[13:37] <om26er> Guest78301, try 'unity --reset'
[13:37] <dhruvasagar> leeeroooy_J: should I even try the latest drivers offered by nvidia.com at all or should I just keep windows for gaming and linux for work ?
[13:38] <a111> is there a command line tool for editing partitions in ubuntu
[13:38] <dhruvasagar> usr13: hmmm yes
[13:38] <usr13> dhruvasagar: Then the issue is just with unity?  (Don't see how, but........+)
[13:38] <leeeroooy_J> dhruvasagar: nvidia drivers dont support optimus, either you try the nouveau ones or you just use linux for work
[13:38] <Guest78301> what the hell http://dpaste.com/586323/
[13:39] <Guest51417> hello is there someone to help me
[13:39] <allandee> usr13: I'm totally stealing that line as a sig "If it works in gnome, it is not broken." :D
[13:39] <bahamas> allandee: it was already at the newest version
[13:39] <Guest78301> out of my mind
[13:39] <Guest78301> hey
[13:39] <Guest78301> unity really sucks
[13:39] <om26er> Guest78301, you should try to login to a guest session
[13:40] <usr13> allandee: Well, I just don't understand why gnome would work with the Nvidia driver and unity won't
[13:40] <Guest78301> why guest
[13:40] <om26er> Guest78301, and you did not reply did you change anything in ccsm???
[13:40] <allandee> bahamas: did we check lsmod for that driver?
[13:40] <usr13> dhruvasagar: I suppose you could uninstall the nvidia driver via the package manager and install the one from nvidia.com
[13:40] <Guest78301> i didnt change anything in ccsm
[13:40] <om26er> Guest78301, if unity is not for you classic desktop is you can select that at the pasword screen 'Ubuntu Classic'
[13:40] <bahamas> allandee: i don't recall. how do i do that?
[13:41] <allandee> usr13: yea, it was just amusing when pulled out of context ;)
[13:41] <Guest78301> whayt is the command for log out
[13:41] <om26er> Guest78301, in guess session every setting is default
[13:41] <allandee> bahamas: just type "lsmod" in a terminal window
[13:41] <Guest78301> logout command doesnt work
[13:41] <usr13> o
[13:41] <om26er> Guest78301, sudo service gdm restart
[13:41] <bryan_> hi everyoen
[13:41] <everyoen> hi
[13:41] <bryan_> is there someone t help me with my usb
[13:42] <usr13> bryan_: What is the matter with your USB?
[13:42] <mega2> can i install ubuntu 11 over 10
[13:42] <bahamas> allandee: i did. what should i look for, because there's nothing obvious that stands out?
[13:42] <xangua> mega2: yes
[13:42] <Eroc> Hello all, i am installing a ftp server called crushftp which i have to start with : "sudo nohup java -Dcrushftp.version=5 -jar CrushFTP.jar -d&". This works even if i logout but when i reboot it is gone. I want it to execute on startup but after googling for awhile i only noticed failure.
[13:43] <bryan_> i had ppuppy linux on it .. now i can do anything with usb ...boot error
[13:43] <bryan_> even format ..i dont have the permission
[13:43] <allandee> bahamas: I think you would have spotted it if it was there, some permuation of BroadCom-something-something.  like bcmwl
[13:43] <usr13> bryan_: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[13:44] <bryan_> how to screenshot here
[13:44] <bryan_> natty
[13:45] <allandee> bahamas: ok and now for "ifconfig" in your terminal window
[13:45] <allandee> you want to ignore the entry identified by "lo"
[13:45] <giusf> Help riproduttore di filmati su 11.10 non funziona
[13:45] <xangua> !it | giusf
[13:46] <usr13> bryan_: Are you the original user?  (Have you created a new user on your system?)
[13:46] <xangua> giusf: and 11.10 is not supported here
[13:46] <bahamas> allandee: there's just eth0
[13:46] <allandee> eth0 (probably there) is only interesting if it has an assigned IP
[13:46] <bryan_> original user
[13:46] <bahamas> besides lo, i mean
[13:46] <giusf> #ubuntu-it
[13:46] <maxxer> hi. I have an ubuntu 10.04 Xen Virtual Machine which mounts partition then won't go ahead
[13:46] <usr13> bryan_: Do you have it plugged in now?
[13:46] <bryan_> yes im on
[13:46] <allandee> bahamas: our day could have been brighter.
[13:46] <bahamas> allandee: it has a inet6 addr
[13:47] <usr13> bryan_: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[13:47] <Arabus> Someone with a little LDAP/libnss-ldap knowledge here? I have a strange timeout error happing on my lucid machine after some hours. The logfile justs spits me a " nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable" in the face - after a nscd restart everything works fine :-/
[13:47] <rickb|server> This is going to sound like a total newb question but here goes.. when I ls a directory it is owned by me then a space then root, how do i change the other field that says root?
[13:47] <usr13> bryan_: ... and send us resulting URL (paste it here).
[13:47] <bahamas> allandee: so what's the problem?
[13:47] <rickb|server> 09:47 4.0K drwxrwxrwx  2 me root  4.0K Aug  3 13:30 www
[13:47] <anadon> Hey, I'm trying to get my computer to dual boot windows on a gpt disk .  boot-repair isn't fixing Grub2.  Anyone know how I can boot my brick?
[13:48] <allandee> bahamas: you mean "what's the solution?" ;p
[13:48] <Arabus> rickb|server: "man chown"
[13:48] <bahamas> allandee: i'm curious to know what the problem is, at least. i mean, more than the wireless doesn't work :)
[13:49] <tokam> hello, first of all I would like to make a suggestion for ubuntu 11.4. I think you updated the batery monitoring for notebooks. When the time left <= 5 (or maybe 10), suspend to ram is activated. I think it would be better to do this when 0 minutes left is displayed. It would mean than 0 minutes left until the computer goes into suspend to ram mode. Because often the mode surprises me.
[13:49] <llutz_> rickb|server: its the "group" owning the dir, change with chgrp or chown
[13:49] <allandee> bahamas: I'm cheering you up, because the solution might involve you booting into windows, grabbing the firmware that is temporarily loaded onto the wifi chip, booting into linux and letting the driver know where you put the copy of the firmware o.O
[13:49] <rickb|server> llutz_: would you recommend disabling ftp?
[13:49] <tokam> when there are 10 minutes left, you get less notifications, and almost imediately your computer goes into suspend to ram mode. further more sometimes this even has bugs and you lose your documents.
[13:49] <Llywelyn> Hello everybody, i don't know if this is the right channel but i'm looking for a bit of help in compiling stuff
[13:50] <bryan_> sorry where is the vertical bar in the command on my keyboard?
[13:50] <bahamas> allandee: sounds similar to a problem i had with a modem once. unfortunately, i don't have windows yet
[13:50] <Llywelyn> i might have done a wrong symlink
[13:50] <llutz_> rickb|server:  sure, sftp is preferred
[13:50] <rickb|server> okay. I'll do that
[13:51] <bahamas> if there's no other way, i'll have to install it and hope that the damn thing doesn't overwrite grub
[13:51] <allandee> bahamas: well, in the balance of all things, I'd say that you're on the fortunate end of things.
[13:51] <usr13> bryan_: Above Enter key, (upper-case)
[13:52] <usr13> bryan_: Do you know how to copy and paste?
[13:52] <usr13> bryan_: See my pm
[13:52] <bahamas> allandee: what would the other end look like? :)
[13:52] <allandee> bahamas: you have no way to connect via cable?
[13:52] <bahamas> allandee: btw, how relevant is this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[13:52] <allandee> bahamas: you'd be stuck in windows, without access to the internet
[13:52] <bahamas> yeah, that would it make it worse indeed
[13:54] <cypha`> is there a switch I can put on sudo aptitude remove so that it COMPLETELY removes the app?
[13:54] <allandee> bahamas: it is relevant, but not recent enough
[13:54] <llutz_> cypha`: aptitude purge
[13:54] <tokam> I need help with the dual screen. How to make the ubuntu menu appear on the left screen (my secondary monitor)
[13:54] <bahamas> allandee: is that firmware unique to each machine? meaning, can't i find it somewhere to download it?
[13:54] <cypha`> llutz_: that's better that sudo aptitude remove ?
[13:54] <cypha`> that = than
[13:55] <allandee> bahamas: but that'd be at odds with the proprietors!  (I'm trying to find it ;p)
[13:55] <llutz_> cypha`: define "better". it purges all the package-related stuff except your personal settings
[13:55] <cypha`> llutz_: i even want my person settings gone
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: rm ~/.whatever
[13:56] <cypha`> llutz_: what's the difference btwn sudo aptitude remove and sudo aptitude purge?
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: apt/dpkg never will touch your personal stuff
[13:56] <llutz_> cypha`: man aptitude                  tells you
[13:56] <cypha`> llutz_ aptitude ;)
[13:57] <allandee> bahamas: oh, here's a nice compilation of information about the driver http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[13:57] <compdoc> cypha`, as simple remove often leaves lots of files and folders and parts of the program behind.
[13:57] <|OLLIE|> the personal settings are app specific as well. apt dont really know about them. could be in ~/.whatever or ~/.config/whatever or /etc/ ..
[13:57] <cypha`> thanks compdoc
[13:57] <llutz_> cypha`: "man aptitude "  is a command, issue it and read
[13:57] <crill> cypha`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905706
[13:58] <bahamas> allandee: ok. i'll try it out. brb
[13:58] <victorhugo289> Guys, why sometimes when I enter Ubuntu I have to type my password 3 times?
[13:58] <cypha`> so what's the advantage of ubuntu over other distros?
[13:58] <cypha`> i'm not using gnome or kde
[13:58] <allandee> bahamas: I can't find a copy of the firmware for your controller ;(
[13:58] <cypha`> why shouldn't I use debian instead?
[13:59] <cypha`> which one is faster?
[13:59] <llutz_> cypha`: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[13:59] <allandee> bahamas: I think you have to either find a way to boot into windows to copy it, or to buy a different wifi-dongle
[13:59] <cypha`> how's that offtopic?
[13:59] <dr-willis> run benvhmarks and see  cypha`
[13:59] <victorhugo289> haha
[13:59] <victorhugo289> Cypha :D
[13:59] <barcel0> I'm doing a remastering of Ubuntu for a 128-256 MB ram pc, well I have it almost ready, but I need to install and configure an installer you can start with light to start the cd isolinux, so Show me the options should: 1 - Start livecd, 2 - Install directly.
[14:00] <cypha`> dr-willis: i'm guessing you already have
[14:00] <cypha`> with all that time you seem to have at work ;)
[14:00] <dr-willis> cypha`:  im sticking to ubuntu. it works well for me
[14:00] <barcel0> sombebody help me?
[14:00] <allandee> barcel0:  sounds like the 2 interesting options.
[14:00] <cypha`> kk
[14:00] <cypha`> good enough for willis, good enough for me
[14:00] <Sybregunne> anybody here using an hp dv6 quad core i7?
[14:00] <dr-willis> barcel0:  the issue is?
[14:01] <cypha`> dr-willis: btw, I switched to openbox
[14:01] <cypha`> much faster/cleaner/minimalistic
[14:01] <Llywelyn> someone knows about compiling and symlink stuff ?
[14:01] <dr-willis> its jyst a window manager. so that makes sence cypha`
[14:02] <dr-willis> !compile
[14:02] <Pici> Llywelyn: Those are two separate and not often related subjects.  Just ask your question(s) and see if you get an answer.
[14:02] <lucian_> allandee: hi, it's bahamas
[14:02] <gurkhali_69> hello can anyone suggest me download accelerator+ manager for ubuntu?
[14:02] <allandee> lucian: well, hello there
[14:03] <dr-willis> gurkhali_69:  not really needed one of those in years
[14:03] <Llywelyn> Pici: i followed a guide to compile ps2 stuff... i moved /usr/local/ps2dev to /home/g/ps2dev and created a file with a symlink but it won't compile
[14:03] <lucian_> allandee: i installed b43-fwcutter. is there anything else i should do?
[14:03] <cypha`> gurkhali_69: sikh?
[14:03] <lucian_> actually, can you paste that link again? i'm on the laptop now
[14:03] <dr-willis> gurkhali_69:  you on some lowspeed connection?
[14:03] <barcel0> dr-willis problem is that installer is not used, can dicirme one?
[14:03] <gurkhali_69> ya very low indeed
[14:04] <gurkhali_69> multiget didn't serve my purpose. so i came here if anyone could suggest me better one
[14:04] <dr-willis> barcel0:  huh? youbwant what?
[14:04] <barcel0> can you tell me some?** (sorry my english no good)
[14:05] <barcel0> some install for use
[14:05] <dr-willis> barcel0:  some what exactly?
[14:05] <allandee> lucian: reading through the procedure
[14:07] <rickb|server> anybody got an idea why when my laptop's display starts to dim it mutes the speakers when it locks. how do i change the timeout time? no matter what I set in the power settings it wont work
[14:07] <rickb|server> :(
[14:07] <allandee> and disconnecting in the process
[14:07] <barcel0> dr-willis an installer to use
[14:07] <somsip> rickb|server: could it be a screensver setting?
[14:08] <dr-willis> barcel0:  an installer is vague.. i have no idea what you are wanting
[14:08] <rickb|server> somsip: i dont even have one enabled :(
[14:08] <Bisu[Shield]> I have a problem. I am trying to make a drive available to vmware.  I chown name:disk /dev/sdb* to connect but then immediately after the owner changes to root.  How do I make this device available?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where i can check why my gnome theme changes after boot?
[14:08] <somsip> rickb|server: well, when I used one, it was the default one, and it did exactly the same. But if you don't have, then fair enough
[14:09] <rickb|server> well let me check, i dont know if blank screen counts :)
[14:09] <federico> Hi, I was wondering if anyone is running SandyBridge processors with Ubuntu?
[14:09] <somsip> rickb|server: maybe a red herring, but worth a go. If not, I'm clueless
[14:09] <rickb|server> lol ok :)
[14:09] <ionutP> hi all
[14:10] <lucian_> allandee: okay
[14:10] <barcel0> dr-willis ou call the installer using the cd! Alernatibe?
[14:10] <ionutP> how can i enable A2DP source service in blueman?
[14:11] <militant> hmmmm so zeitgeist datahub is zombied after every boot.  i see from google this is a known issue, but there's so many repeats of the same info that i can't quite see if there's a fix?  or if it causes any issues with other software or services?
[14:11] <barcel0> alternative*
[14:11] <Bisu[Shield]> wth am I invisible?
[14:11] <dr-willis> barcel0:  the os installer binary is called 'ubiquity' i think
[14:11] <federico> Hi everyone, I'm about to byt a new pc with SandyBridge, will it work with 11.04? Thanks a lot, I don't wanna make a mistake buying incompat. hard
[14:11] <wols_> Bisu[Shield]: don't change the owner but permissions
[14:11] <ionutP> how can i enable A2DP source service in blueman?
[14:12] <Bisu[Shield]> what should I change it to?
[14:12] <Bisu[Shield]> ?
[14:13] <rickb|server> guess what os? http://rickb.net/desktop.png :p
[14:13] <dr-willis> Bisu[Shield]: where did the idea to chown the /dev/sdxx come from?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu with mac os theme
[14:13] <Bisu[Shield]> I made it up dr-willis
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> because I needed permisison to use the device
[14:14] <dr-willis> Bisu[Shield]:  i think that ides us totally wrong
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> I agree
[14:14] <federico> Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:14] <Bisu[Shield]> brw-rw----  <-- what permission is this? I dont recognize the b part
[14:14] <dr-willis> b   block device
[14:14] <dr-willis> i think
[14:15] <sipior> dr-willis: yep.
[14:15] <Bisu[Shield]> oh so just chmod 777??
[14:15] <ionutP> hi is anyone using blueman?
[14:15] <allandee> bahamas: well, doh!
[14:15] <dr-willis> i dont think you chown or chmod /dev/sdxx items at all
[14:15] <edbian> dr-willis: I agree
[14:16] <lucian_> allandee: ??
[14:16] <Bisu[Shield]> dr-willis:  so how do i make the device available to vmware?  Currently vmware is complaining that it does not have permission to read the file
[14:16] <allandee> lucian: the rom can be extracted from the published windows drivers ;p
[14:16] <allandee> lucian: ok:
[14:17] <lizhengqian> ger
[14:17] <federico> Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:17] <dr-willis> check vmware guides/docs i guess. using a vm to access a real physical disk i think is not a good idea
[14:17] <dr-willis> vbox docs warn against doing that
[14:18] <usr13> Bisu[Shield]: What exactly are you trying to do.  Why would vmware need  premission to "read" a block device file?
[14:18] <taz> hey i just opened irc for the the first time in my life can anyone point me to like a begginers guide?
[14:18] <allandee> lucian: something like "mkdir ~/tmp ; cd ~/tmp ; wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2" to grab the driver
[14:18] <allandee> or whereever you want to put it
[14:19] <usr13> taz:  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[14:19] <lucian_> allandee: it will remain there permanently, i assume
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find a theme error: my gnome theme changes suddenly after boot
[14:20] <allandee> extract with "tar --extract --bzip2 --file broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2"
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> when I try to connect to the device via vmware, i get an error: Virtual device scsi0:1: Unable to open host device "/dev/sdb1": Insufficient permissions to access the file. Please make sure the virtual device is configured to use a Linux SCSI Generic device (/dev/sg*), and that the physical device is functioning normally on the host.
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> Failed to connect virtual device scsi0:1.
[14:20] <allandee> lucian: hence the name "tmp"
[14:20] <Bisu[Shield]> and I am not sure how to fix it
[14:20] <allandee> (no ;)
[14:20] <usr13> allandee: tar jxvf broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[14:20] <allandee> usr13: long options for readability ;)
[14:21] <lucian_> allandee: done
[14:21] <usr13> allandee: Oh ok.
[14:21] <federico> maybe this would work: sudo Hi, can anyone, please, help me with some SandyBridge questions? Thanks!
[14:21] <Pici> !ask | federico
[14:22] <cypha> which pygtk do I download?
[14:22] <federico> SandyBridge is compatible with 11.04 release?
[14:22] <lucian_> i see there are some wl_linux files
[14:22] <allandee> right, I'm trying to figure out where to write the extracted rom to
[14:23] <dr-willis> !hcl
[14:23] <Pinguincsc> hello
[14:23] <dr-willis> jello
[14:23] <cypha> dr-willis: do you have pythongtk?
[14:23] <cypha> pygtk
[14:23] <lucian_> allandee: alright
[14:23] <cypha> python-pygtk
[14:24] <maxxer> what happens after "running /scripts/init-bottom"?
[14:24] <dr-willis> no idea. cyp cypha  should i?
[14:24] <maxxer> my machine is stuck there
[14:24] <dabbish> unity, what do you guys think? like or dislike?
[14:24] <cypha> not necessarily
[14:24] <dr-willis> !find pygtk
[14:24] <cypha> can anyone tell me which python-gtk package I should be downloading?
[14:24] <rhin0> dabbish I couldn't find the bash prompt Oo
[14:24] <Pici> !info python-gtk2
[14:25] <Pinguincsc> I am trying to find the best way to backup files from an NTFS FS to an external USB disk
[14:25] <th0r> Pinguincsc: rsync?
[14:25] <Pinguincsc> I am running Ubuntu Lucid Desktop. I was thinking of using Deja Dup
[14:26] <Pinguincsc> Is it safe for NTFS?
[14:26] <dabbish> Ok let me rephrase that; Is there anyone here who actually use Unity?
[14:26] <Pinguincsc> yes
[14:26] <Algorith> obviously
[14:26] <popey> dabbish: yup
[14:28] <dabbish> one person?
[14:28] <wols_> !polls
[14:28] <wols_> dabbish: don't take one
[14:28] <bahamas> allandee: i'm back to my original nickname :)
[14:28] <dabbish> wols_, huh?
[14:28] <wols_> dabbish: do not take polls
[14:29] <dabbish> wols_, I'm just curios. I took one look at it and thought WTF
[14:29] <wols_> dabbish: do you have an actual ubuntu support problem?
[14:29] <federico> @ubottu : the hardware support page on Wiki  only has equipments, not components... any other links you can point me to? Thanks for your help!
[14:29] <wols_> federico: ubottu is a bot
[14:30] <dabbish> wols_, no
[14:30] <wols_> federico: can you tell us the difference between "equipments" and "components"?
[14:30] <tokam> hello, how to set up a taskbar at my second dual monitor. I tried to follow some online tutorials (like pressing als+mouse 1) and moving an existing panel arround, but this all showed now reaction.
[14:30] <federico> @wols_ I'm an idiot...jajaj
[14:30] <federico> @wols_ equipment: notebook, desktop, server | components: motherboards, cpus, etc.
[14:31] <barcel0> debian-installer is the installer that uses the alternative installation cd for ubuntu?
[14:31] <barcel0> true? xD
[14:32] <allandee> bahamas?
[14:32] <wols_> federico: link on that page you got linked: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog
[14:32] <bahamas> allandee: yes
[14:32] <wols_> barcel0: afaik yes
[14:32] <allandee> bahamas: do you have git installed?
[14:32] <Pinguincsc> how do I add a separate item for Software Sources to Unity?
[14:33] <federico> @wols_ thanks! I would have expected a catalog categorized by parts, so I quickly looked and didn't notice. Thanks!
[14:33] <bahamas> allandee: i do now
[14:34] <allandee> you have to "git clone git://git.bu3sch.de/b43-tools.git" - the Ubuntu package doesn't quite work
[14:34] <militant> hmmmm.  so anyone know what's with zeitgeist datahub being zombied at boot?
[14:34] <allandee> clone it to a tmp directory of sortrs
[14:34] <allandee> sorts
[14:35] <bahamas> allandee: okay
[14:35] <federico> @wols_ is there an HCL for Ubuntu?
[14:36] <dr-willis> !hcl
[14:36] <barcel0> wols with isolinux I can add 2 entries, 1 - boot into live mode and 2-install directly (load debian-installer)?
[14:37] <wols_> barcel0: why would ther alternate ISO have live cd components on disk?
[14:37] <allandee> sudo <where-you-cloned-b43-tools-too>/fwcutter/b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~<username>/tmp/broadcom-wl*/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:38] <edbian> allandee: Who are you helping?
[14:38] <allandee> hm, the greater-than signs, &gt; messed that up
[14:38] <allandee> edbian: bahamas
[14:38] <bahamas> edbian: me
[14:38] <federico> @dr-willis I live in a country where Hardware is REALLY expensive.  So, you have to be very carefull when buying parts..
[14:38] <edbian> bahamas: What card is this?
[14:38] <allandee> edbian; bcm4313
[14:38] <bahamas> edbian: broadcom
[14:38] <bahamas> ^^
[14:39] <wols_> federico: this HCL is still useless btw. well not totally useless but doesn't tell the whole story. e.g. broadcom WLAN is supposedly supported, but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole for any Linux. same with ralink or realtek
[14:39] <federico> @wols_ what about TP-Link? My config is with that PCI wifi card..
[14:40] <ycl> can help me how to configuration cam to pidgin ?
[14:40] <wols_> federico: manufacturer of cards do not matter ever. only makers of the chips on said cards matter.
[14:41] <barcel0> wols I'm doing a remaster of ubuntu and I set it so that it isolinux say
[14:41] <wols_> federico: e.g. my tp-link uses atheros which is supported very well under linux.
[14:41] <beli> ycl: iirc pidgin has no support for that
[14:41] <edbian> bahamas: allandee Did you get it working?  I don't think b43 can be used for that card.
[14:41] <xangua> beli: ycl pidgin supportd voice and video for jabber protocol
[14:41] <bahamas> edbian: i'm trying now
[14:41] <barcel0> wols_*
[14:41] <wols_> barcel0: you make no sense
[14:42] <beli> xangua: oh, didn't know :) nice
[14:42] <usr13> allandee:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10735948
[14:42] <mdgeorge> hello
[14:42] <allandee> bahamas: I'll try again, using [] for meta info:  sudo [where got cloned b43-fwcutter to]/fwcutter/b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~[bahamas]/tmp/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:42] <ycl> @xangua,how to conf ?
[14:42] <ycl> @beli,thanks
[14:42] <allandee> if we can suck out the prom, the driver should
[14:42] <xangua> ycl: do you have a jabber acount'¿
[14:42] <xangua> gtalk perhaps¿
[14:43] <nOStahl> can someone help me out to enable multiple graphics cards so I can have more than one screen
[14:43] <bahamas> allandee: yes, it's okay i understood. i don't see a b43-fwcutter executable in fwcutter though
[14:43] <mdgeorge> I'm using natty, and I'd like to install a newer version of xorg (I want the pointer barrier support added in 1.10.2)
[14:43] <mdgeorge> is there an easy way to do this without breaking everything?
[14:43] <bahamas> allandee: there's a file named like that but with .1 at the end
[14:43] <ycl> @xangua,i don't
[14:43] <wols_> nOStahl: do you want multiple screens or multiple X sessions?
[14:43] <nOStahl> multiple monitors
[14:43] <beli> nOStahl: read about xinerama
[14:44] <wols_> mdgeorge: no there is not
[14:44] <nOStahl> prob is, in lspci only my agp graphcis card shows up..
[14:44] <nOStahl> the integrated goes away
[14:44] <wols_> nOStahl: how many outputs does your main videocard have?
[14:44] <histo> mdgeorge: you'd have to build it yourself or get it from a ppa
[14:44] <bahamas> allandee: maybe i should run makefile before?
[14:44] <allandee> bahamas: oh right, you have to compile it ;P
[14:44] <histo> mdgeorge: but you may break things
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find a theme error: my gnome theme changes suddenly after boot
[14:44] <allandee> yes
[14:44] <mdgeorge> I see
[14:45] <nOStahl> I wonder if my bios disables the integrated if I have an agp card plugged in?
[14:45] <ionutP> anyone using blueman?
[14:45] <allandee> cd to the fwcutter directory and issue make
[14:45] <ionutP> sasasas
[14:45] <wols_> nOStahl: it often does
[14:45] <dhruvasagar> usr13: btw I found this - https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee so apparently there is support for optimus
[14:46] <nOStahl> so I might have to throw a pci graphics card in instead to get more monitors eh?
[14:46] <wols_> nOStahl: answer my question please
[14:46] <bahamas> allandee: i seem to be missing some package, because i get a bunch of syntax errors. i do have 'make' installed, so it's not that
[14:46] <nOStahl> the agp has 2
[14:46] <mdgeorge> histo: if I found I broke things, could I easily backpedal?
[14:46] <nOStahl> both dvi im waiting on buddy to grab me couple dvi to vga adapters
[14:47] <wols_> nOStahl: so use them both. either via xrandr or nvidia-settings, depending on drivers used
[14:47] <nOStahl> aye im trying to add more than 2 screens
[14:47] <wols_> mdgeorge: no you cannot "backpedal". downgrades aren't supported
[14:47] <allandee> bahamas: some *-dev packages then, but I can try to to send you a compiled version, if you feel like
[14:47] <mdgeorge> I see
[14:47] <walman10> hi
[14:49] <bahamas> allandee: this is what i get http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452581/
[14:49] <allandee> oh, no
[14:49] <bahamas> allandee: the transfer failed apparently
[14:49] <mdgeorge> what is ubuntu/oneiric?
[14:49] <allandee> you cd to the directory and type "make"
[14:50] <bahamas> ah, that's it
[14:50] <nerdshell> allandee: make mustn't be done as superuser ?
[14:50] <bahamas> nerdshell: nope
[14:50] <allandee> nerdshell: no
[14:50] <nerdshell> allandee: ah, it's the make install that should, right ?
[14:50] <allandee> nerdshell: only if you "make install" and to a system-wide area
[14:51] <allandee> yea
[14:51] <S4nD3r> Im at gnome
[14:51] <S4nD3r> how to close my X to install a nvidia driver?
[14:52] <dr-willis> you did try the drivers from the repos first S4nD3r ?
[14:52] <S4nD3r> Sure
[14:52] <mdgeorge> thanks for your help guys
[14:52] <S4nD3r> I need to use GPUs
[14:52] <wols_> S4nD3r: and they didn't work why?
[14:52] <S4nD3r> to programming using CUDA
[14:53] <dr-willis> S4nD3r:  sudo service gdm.stop
[14:53] <allandee> S4nD3r: if you know the next steps, you can try /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:53] <dr-willis> gdm   stop
[14:53] <bahamas> allandee: done. now what?
[14:53] <dr-willis> service command is our friend
[14:54] <allandee> sudo [path-to-new-fwcutter] -w /lib/firmware ~[bahamas]/tmp/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[14:56] <YankDownUnder> dr-willis, So technically, if someone (like some of the folks in this channel) does NOT have any friends, they can at least say that the "service" utility is a friend, right? ;)
[14:56] <bahamas> allandee: yes, i meant i did that as well :)
[14:56] <bryan_> hello usr 13
[14:56] <DaSpawn1> hi everyone
[14:56] <DaSpawn1> anyone have udev knowlege?
[14:56] <bryan_> hi everyone
[14:57] <allandee> oh, sweet,  no errors?
[14:57] <bahamas> allandee: nope
[14:57] <allandee> then you just need to load the new driver
[14:57] <wols_> DaSpawn1: ask your real question
[14:57] <bryan_> is there someone to help get my usb sudo
[14:57] <allandee> via insmod or modprobe, let's see what it should be called
[14:58] <bahamas> allandee: i have both
[14:58] <wols_> !anyone | bryan_
[14:59] <bryan_> who can help
[14:59] <getAnickname> what u need help with
[14:59] <DaSpawn1> I have a udev script to automount a drive and the drive is encrypted with dm_crypt.  The drive was removed without luksClose so the /dev/mapper/{device} still exists/is mounted.  luksClose no longer works, and I can not remove the device.  is it possible to force remove with udevadm?
[14:59] <wols_> bryan_: can you state your actual problem already?
[14:59] <Moses_> sup guyz
[14:59] <bryan_> a usb partition erase  must use sudo
[15:00] <sandy1337> hi guys
[15:00] <DaSpawn1> (reboot would remove but reboot not possible easily)
[15:00] <sandy1337> how to run virtual box on ubuntu?
[15:00] <bryan_> i new there ws guy who help he is gone now
[15:00] <sandy1337> :(
[15:00] <Moses_> can somone help me with something
[15:00] <sandy1337> please help guys
[15:00] <wols_> !anyone | moses
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> what details about virtual box on ubuntu are you looking for?
[15:01] <sandy1337> i want to install virtual box on my linux os
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> very easy
[15:01] <wols_> sandy1337: you install virtualbox from your normal ubuntu repo and you run it. easy as that
[15:01] <sandy1337> how daspawan?
[15:01] <allandee> bahamas: ok, the moment of truth o.O
[15:01] <allandee> bahamas: modprobe b43
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[15:01] <bryan_> anyone HERE
[15:01] <sandy1337> yeah i downloaded for that site
[15:01] <Moses_> do u guyz know cydia
[15:01] <DaSpawn1> the virtualbox avain in normal repos is old
[15:02] <wols_> sandy1337: why don't you use the virtualbox in your ubuntu repos?
[15:02] <DaSpawn1> *available
[15:02] <bahamas> allandee: no errors, but no output either. what should i check now?
[15:02] <amanthakur> hi guys, is there any channel available for gimp support?
[15:02] <wols_> DaSpawn1: then I suggest you support it in #vbox (or #virtualbox)
[15:02] <sandy1337> virutal box in ubuntu repos?
[15:02] <allandee> lsmod first to see that the b43 module is loaded
[15:02] <wols_> !alis | amanthakur
[15:02] <sandy1337> what's that mean
[15:02] <wols_> !info virtualbox-ose
[15:02] <allandee> then ifconfig to see if the adapter is listed
[15:02] <Moses_> guyz help ME
[15:02] <somsip> amanthakur: http://www.gimp.org/irc.html
[15:03] <allandee> and if not, dmesg and look at the most recent lines to maybe see why not
[15:03] <wols_> Moses_: since you are unable to state your problem coherently, no one can
[15:03] <bryan_> hello
[15:03] <Toph2> amanthakur,,, how about #gimp?
[15:03] <Pici> Moses_: Isn't that for iphones? What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[15:03] <amanthakur> somsip,  thanks :)
[15:03] <bahamas> allandee: a lsmod | grep b43 finds a few results
[15:03] <somsip> amanthakur: google is your friend...
[15:03] <amanthakur> Toph2, ok i will try that thank you :)
[15:03] <allandee> a few, now?
[15:03] <Moses_> watt do i go on then
[15:03] <bryan_> i have problem but nnno help
[15:03] <bryan_> snif snif
[15:03] <Moses_> to help on ipod
[15:03] <somsip> !anyone | bryan_
[15:04] <Pici> !alis | Moses_
[15:04] <wols_> bryan_: you are unable to state your problem. with a disability like that you never get help. state your problem already!
[15:04] <bahamas> allandee: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452588/
[15:04] <Pici> bryan_: On one line please.
[15:04] <sandy1337> wols :(
[15:04] <sandy1337> help me pls
[15:04] <Pici> !vbox > sandy1337
[15:04] <TheDeza> Hi
[15:04] <bahamas> wols_: it's possible that he's trolling
[15:05] <sandy1337> ubottu how can i see your private msg/
[15:05] <allandee> bahamas: that's promising, actually
[15:05] <TheDeza> I'm installing ubuntu on my hard drive.
[15:05] <wols_> bahamas: never ascribe to malice what could be simple stupidity
[15:05] <TheDeza> :D
[15:05] <allandee> bahamas: and ifconfig?
[15:05] <bahamas> wols_: true
[15:05] <DaSpawn1> anyone on my udev question?
[15:05] <wols_> sandy1337: a window opened in your irc client somewhere
[15:05] <bryan_> so  my usb is not working on booting
[15:05] <sandy1337> no wols_
[15:05] <allandee> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
[15:05] <allandee> Hanlon's razor.
[15:05] <wols_> sandy1337: it did
[15:06] <TheDeza> Are there any good free linux games?
[15:06] <sandy1337> nyeh wols
[15:06] <bryan_> why you dont help here
[15:06] <sandy1337> got it
[15:06] <sandy1337> but that link hadn't help me
[15:06] <sandy1337> :(
[15:06] <wols_> bryan_: cause you are unable to state your problem
[15:06] <sandy1337> wols_ tell me what to type in my terminal?
[15:06] <wols_> bryan_: you still didn't. read this http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[15:07] <sandy1337> guys i'm brand new to linux that's y
[15:07] <sandy1337> :(
[15:07] <bryan_> i told you i have problem with my usb kernal i cant intall anything onit now
[15:07] <minsik_> hi. I need help with my ar5b95 wi-fi card.
[15:07] <hroi> hi anybody know how I register my nickname with freenode?   ... doesnt appear on the freenode.net website
[15:07] <bryan_> sorry im new here also
[15:07] <genii-around> !register
[15:07] <TheDeza> Do !commands work in IRC?
[15:07] <TheDeza> I didn't think they did.
[15:07] <wols_> sandy1337: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove.html  read this and learn how to install software
[15:07] <sandy1337> wols_ :(
[15:07] <TheDeza> !help
[15:07] <th0r> hroi: a simple google search will help
[15:08] <bahamas> allandee: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452591/
[15:08] <allandee> TheDeza: yes
[15:08] <xangua> sandy1337: sudo aptget install virtualbox-ose
[15:08] <TheDeza> Thats odd.
[15:08] <bryan_> can i paste  my terminal msg here
[15:08] <Moses_> sumo
[15:08] <wols_> TheDeza: depends on the bot. some can work here. but if you want to experiment, use /msg ubottu <command>
[15:08] <wols_> bryan_: if it's only a single line, yes
[15:08] <TheDeza> Ah, it works by using a bot.
[15:08] <xangua> apt-get *
[15:08] <TheDeza> Otherwise, use pastie, or pastebin.
[15:08] <bryan_> no its big
[15:08] <wols_> !paste | bryan_
[15:09] <allandee> that looks like your cable though ;(
[15:09] <wols_> bryan_: include the command that leads to this error message as well please
[15:09] <TheDeza> http://pastie.org/
[15:09] <TheDeza> Gah, lost my chat window.
[15:09] <bryan_> isk /dev/sdb: 4041 MB, 4041211904 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> 81 heads, 37 sectors/track, 2633 cylinders
[15:09] <bryan_> Units = cylinders of 2997 * 512 = 1534464 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:09] <bryan_> Disk identifier: 0x00041257
[15:09] <FloodBot1> bryan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <allandee> bahamas: we wanted a "wlan0"
[15:09] <bahamas> allandee: ah, okay
[15:09] <Moses_> i need help how to hack ipod touch games
[15:09] <somsip> !ot | Moses_
[15:10] <wols_> Moses_: you are in the wrong channel for that. go away
[15:10] <TheDeza> This isn't the place to learn how.
[15:10] <bahamas> allandee: only eth0 and lo unfortunately
[15:10] <sandy1337> <3 ya wols_
[15:10] <sandy1337> but :(
[15:10] <sandy1337> virtualbox installed but error in suplibosinit comes :(
[15:10] <TheDeza> My portable linux setup won't reconise my drive.
[15:10] <allandee> bahamas: do you see anything interesting in "dmesg | tail -24"?
[15:11] <Florin91> Hi! Here is my question: How to remove installed tasks from ubuntu ?
[15:11] <TheDeza> I can assess it in the file manager, but the option is greyed out.
[15:11] <bahamas> allandee: Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PNL, Firmware-ID: FW13
[15:12] <sandy1337> wols_
[15:12] <clean> hi, friends, I was asked how to monitor the state of a mutex with linux command in an interview, I was confused. Is there such a command? thanks
[15:12] <xangua> Florin91: what do you mena by 'instaled tasks' ¿
[15:12] <wols_> sandy1337: what is the exact error message?
[15:12] <allandee> bahamas: try to "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" then unplugging and plugging in your dongle
[15:12] <sandy1337> wols_ i installed the virtual box
[15:12] <krazykrivda> i'm lookin gat a script.. in the beginning of it it says. umask 003.. what does this mean/do?
[15:12] <sandy1337> and when i click on start
[15:13] <sandy1337> then error comes
[15:13] <bahamas> allandee: what dongle?
[15:13] <allandee> krazykrivda: it sets the default permissions for the child processes
[15:13] <krazykrivda> but what permissions are they?
[15:13] <sandy1337> virtual box linux kernal deriver is eier not loaded or there is permision probem with /dev/vobxdrv
[15:13] <hroi> NickServ says -NickServ- hroi is already registered.
[15:13] <hroi> so whats the point...
[15:13] <Pici> hroi: #freenode
[15:13] <allandee> allandee:  ok, fn-F2 to deactivate it and again to reactivate then
[15:13] <krazykrivda> allandee: ** what permissions is the equivalent to?
[15:13] <allandee> and I'm talking to myself again
[15:14] <bahamas> hroi: then you have to choose a different one
[15:14] <wols_> sandy1337: and that's why you follow the link pici gave you via ubottu in that extra window
[15:14] <Pici> hroi: its available to be dropped, you can ask for that in #freenode
[15:14] <hroi> bahamas: yeah... but I probably registered it already... just I need to find the login command.
[15:14] <bahamas> or what Pici said
[15:14] <allandee> allandee:  krazykrivda it's coded in octal, so the three positions are for owner/user, group, everyone
[15:15] <allandee> the permission flags are read, write, delete, sticky
[15:15] <bahamas> allandee: the wireless is integrated, so i don't have a dongle
[15:15] <allandee>  and the mask is inverted
[15:15] <allandee> bahamas: but you can press fn-F2 to turn it off?
[15:15] <allandee> and on
[15:15] <krazykrivda> allandee: soo.. 663?
[15:16] <allandee> allandee: you're coming on quite hard there, but ok, let's disco
[15:16] <allandee> I swear, it's this chat client.  I'm not prone to talk to myself this much.
[15:16] <Florin91> @xangua sudo apt-get install common-name^ or sudo tasksel
[15:16] <Typhaon> Hello y'all!  Are any of you familiar with Wubi install of Ubuntu?  After installing and booting, I get a "No Root File System" error and it won't finish installing.  Any idea how to fix this?  I saw some stuff on the forums to boot from a liveCD to do some troubleshooting, which is what I'm doing now.
[15:17] <allandee> bahamas: can  you see the adapter going offline and offline by tailing /var/log/dmesg then?
[15:17] <xangua> Florin91: sudo apt-get remove ¿
[15:17] <allandee> and online even
[15:17] <allandee>  que
[15:17] <xrfang> I am running natty.  In the program listing I see "Chrome" there, but I have already reinstalled system (/home is kept) and not installe Chrome anymore. how can I remove "broken" icons on unity's app list?
[15:18] <bahamas> allandee: i don't see any changes
[15:18] <tensorpudding> xrfang: see if there is a .desktop file for chrome in /usr/share/applications
[15:18] <allandee> xrfang: right click icon, uncheck the "keep in dock" thingy
[15:18] <Florin91> xangua what is after remove? what character?
[15:19] <xangua> Florin91: package name
[15:19] <allandee> bahamas: try to do an "lspci | grep -i broadcom" before turning off, then the same again after
[15:19] <xangua> Florin91: apt-get help
[15:20] <xrfang> tensorpudding, allandee, no I am not talking about the left bar, I am talking about a dead icon in the menu which comes out if you click the top left ubuntu icon, or hit the super key
[15:20] <bahamas> allandee: i assume that if it's turned off, it shouldn't show up anymore, right?
[15:20] <badboy__> hi all
[15:20] <allandee> that's the assumption we're testing, yea ;)
[15:20] <bahamas> allandee: it still does. do i need to press the keys longer?
[15:20] <tensorpudding> xrfang: pretty sure that the browser icon there represents the default browser you configured
[15:21] <Florin91> @xangua I heard of a bug ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[15:21] <allandee> bahamas: hm.  do you have an indicator light of sorts, for the wifi-thingy?
[15:21] <wols_> Florin91: run tasksel again and unselect the stuff you don't want
[15:21] <allandee> like a blue led somewhere
[15:21] <sandy1337> wols_
[15:21] <xrfang> tensorpudding, I doubt it, because I see both Chrome and Firefox. I will now confirm which is my default, although I am sure it is firefox :)
[15:22] <bahamas> allandee: btw, i've found this, but i don't know how relevant it is. http://www.beli.ws/blog/?p=360
[15:22] <sandy1337> how to uninstall any software from linux?
[15:22] <wols_> Florin91: all that tasksel does is installing a few packages via apt-get, you can easily check which packages are in each "task" and apt-get remove them. see man tasksel
[15:22] <bahamas> allandee: i'll check the manual because i can't see anything obvious
[15:22] <xangua> sandy1337: sudo apt-get remove
[15:22] <xrfang> tensorpudding, it is indeed firefox. and chrome is a broken icon :(
[15:22] <wols_> sandy1337: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-remove.html  why don't you read the links I give you. do you think I do this so you can ignore them?
[15:22] <Florin91> Yes. manually taking all of them one by one ...
[15:23] <tensorpudding> xrfang: you see firefox as the default browser in preferred applications?
[15:23] <xangua> sandy1337: have you ever clicked on the Help icon that comes  in ubuntu¿ i suggest you the manual as well
[15:23] <xrfang> tensorpudding, right.
[15:23] <xangua> !manual
[15:23] <sandy1337> no xangua
[15:23] <sandy1337> :(
[15:23] <sandy1337> thanks wolf :)
[15:24] <allandee> bahamas: it's relevant in the sense that getting most of the cheap broadcom adapters to work in OS X or Linux is a pain in the ass.  but it doesn't quite cover 4313 ;(
[15:24] <bahamas> allandee: nothing in the manual
[15:24] <sandy1337> <3 ya wolf_
[15:24] <Florin91> @wols Tasksel unselect I did it first ... gave some errors and after that I found the task sel page with that bug
[15:24] <bahamas> allandee: ah, okay
[15:24] <wols_> !errors
[15:25] <allandee> bahamas: if the fn-f2 is hardwired to shut down the broadcom-circuit, then watching /var/log/dmesg should say so
[15:25] <Nitax> what is the most active / stable GUI for ufw in 11.04?
[15:25] <allandee> what was the pci address again?
[15:26] <allandee> lspci
[15:26] <adamogle> hello
[15:26] <bahamas> allandee: 04:00.0
[15:27] <iridium> I'm having a problem adding a ssh rule to ipv6 and ip6tables, it keeps dropping the connection, doing the same on ipv4 with iptables works, any hint about this?
[15:29] <allandee> bahamas: I hate to ask this, but can you reboot, and look at the most recent entries in /var/log/dmesg, then modrpobe the new driver, and look again at the most recent lines in dmesg?
[15:29] <usr13> iridium: Show us the rule
[15:29] <oj_> is it a problem if apt-get update gives a lot of Ign (Ignore) results for links?
[15:29] <dr_willis> oj_:  Not really
[15:29] <dr_willis> oj_:  could be those are upto date.
[15:29] <wols_> oj_: depends
[15:30] <Typhaon> I'm trying to install Ubuntu using Wubi.  After installing and rebooting, I choose Ubuntu from the boot loader, and the moment Ubuntu loads I get a "No Root File System is defined" message.  Any idea how to fix this?  I'm running Windows 7, single HDD, no RAID.
[15:30] <oj_> all the natty updates links are almost all Ignored, so that means... they are up to date?
[15:30] <bahamas> allandee: sure, i'll do that
[15:30] <bahamas> brb
[15:30] <dr_willis> I get a lot of 'ign' for lines like ---> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-updates/universe Translation-en
[15:30] <dr_willis> still not sure what the translation-en stuff is.
[15:31] <salonkikelpoinen> ok, dudes.. i've been strugling a day to create bootable usb stick with ubuntu... so i wan't to create bootable usb from windows .iso image.. and i don't have the cd's .. that's why i am asking
[15:31] <salonkikelpoinen> any suggestions would be welcome
[15:31] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do I enable javascript for firefox
[15:31] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen:  yoi want to put  windows 7 iso file on a USB flash?
[15:31] <jrib> sw0rdfish: did you disable it?
[15:32] <iridium> usr13, used this: ip6tables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[15:32] <bahamas> back
[15:32] <iridium> usr13, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/AaFgvCbg
[15:32] <allandee> salonkikelpoinen:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:32] <jackalista> I'm having trouble getting wifi to connect on 11.04 on a dell latitude E6420, was given this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but when I run the "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" command here is no output.  Does this mean I don't have broadcom wireless?  any hlpe much appreciated
[15:32] <sw0rdfish> jrib, I don't know how to enable or disable, but a website my friend is working on needs JS enabled and I can't seem to see somethings that I should be........so we assumed maybe JS is disabled
[15:33] <sw0rdfish> can you plz tell me how to enable JS for firefox :)
[15:33] <jrib> sw0rdfish: JS is enabled by default
[15:33] <sw0rdfish> well to check...at least
[15:33] <ldr> jackalista sometimes the wlan card didnt show up when the switch on your laptop ist turned off afaik
[15:33] <jrib> sw0rdfish: unless you installed some sort of extension like noscript, this is not the issue
[15:34] <salonkikelpoinen> allandee, tried that, cannot do bootable stuff for windows
[15:34] <totos> hi how to read live text files?? i wont to read the file while its updatting plz
[15:34] <dr_willis> http://www.bodo.com/javacool.htm
[15:34] <wols_> totos: tail -f <file>
[15:34] <jrib> sw0rdfish: iirc, there's some sort of option in the preferences dialog for firefox about js
[15:34] <Pici> totos: tail -F
[15:34] <totos> thank u
[15:34] <HelloWorld321> What's a good package for remote viewing an Ubuntu desktop from a Windows 7 client?
[15:34] <bahamas> allandee: so i looked at /var/log/dmesg, did modprobe b43 and looked at dmesg again. i didn't see anything about broadcom this time
[15:34] <jackalista> ldr: well, I am able to use wifi with the win7 on the box, I am "trying" ubuntu as I need it to wor before installing
[15:34] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  vnc, or that teamviewer app. work well.
[15:35] <wols_> HelloWorld321: any vnc client
[15:35] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: ok, i use ubuntu and wan't to create bootable installation media from iso
[15:35] <bryanox> how to format a usb with sudo command
[15:35] <sw0rdfish> jrib, yes I found it thank you very much......and as you said it already is enabled .......it must mean my friend's website is not ok hehe :D
[15:35] <allandee> I hate that.  ok, rmmod b43
[15:35] <bahamas> allandee: oh, wait. now i have wireless networks show up :D
[15:35] <wols_> jackalista: lspci -nn| less
[15:35] <allandee> o.O
[15:35] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  it totally depends on whats on the iso. SOME (not all) you can just 'dd' to the flash drive and they work
[15:36] <chenthu> can anyone tell me how to disable nouveau (like adding a  nouveau.modeset=0) during the boot of the installer usb or live usb....  (not
[15:36] <wols_> bryanox: like any other harddisk. sudo mkfs.<filesystem type> /dev/sdXY where XY is the proper partition
[15:36] <jackalista> wols_: thanks, will try that...
[15:36] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: tried with dd but it seems that it does not make mbr for the stick, or i am missing some parameters
[15:36] <dr_willis> chenthu,  i seem to recall some kernel          nouveau.blacklist  option..
[15:37] <ministerdude> Why is Ubuntu stupid? If I want to instal software and it tells me to instal something else with it. How come I can't just say "ok... instal whatever... just make it work" ?
[15:37] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  dd only works with SOME disrto's iso files.
[15:37] <bryanox> can you explain plz i dont  know im new to linux
[15:37] <bahamas> allandee: i think i'm connected on wireless
[15:37] <wols_> !nomodeset
[15:37] <dr_willis> ministerdude,  give details as to what and how you are instaling it.
[15:37] <allandee> bahamas: I think I'm about to be happy
[15:37] <bahamas> allandee: anyway, thank you for your help and time. i appreciate it
[15:37] <ministerdude> Software center
[15:37] <bahamas> i should write this down somewhere for other poor souls
[15:37] <allandee> bahamas: much obliged, I hope it sticks
[15:37] <chenthu> dr_willis: how to do that?
[15:38] <bahamas> allandee: me too :)
[15:38] <dr_willis> chenthu,  do what?
[15:38] <deostroll> how do I find out if I have a ddr RAM or a sdr RAM?
[15:38] <jackalista> wols_: all that looks applivable i the Network controller, is that what I'm looking for?
[15:38] <chenthu> wols_: thank you
[15:38] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: would like to make bootable hiren's boot cd first and then install xp... any ideas how to do that? ... googling for a second day and this seems to be very hard mission :)
[15:38] <allandee> bahamas; hah, there are roughy seven billion nine hundred and thirty seven million six hundred and fourtyseven thousand two hundred and fifty five people who tried that
[15:39] <deostroll> in other words, how do i find out what type of RAM I have?
[15:39] <allandee> it's just hard to find the right one
[15:39] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  assk in #windows perhaps. Ive no idea what hirends bootcd even is. that bootcd's homepage may have some forums.
[15:39] <bahamas> allandee: which part? writing down these steps?
[15:39] <chenthu> dr_willis:  i meant to create nouveau.blaclist file... thanks for the help... will try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 and then come back if it doesnt work ... :)
[15:39] <allandee> yes, or making hardware from unwilling manufacturers work outside of Windows
[15:40] <ministerdude> all I'm looking for is a simple beat maker. I write tunes and stuff and when I'm not with the band I'd like to have some killer beats yo'
[15:40] <dp> anyone know if there's a PPA for newer versions of perl?
[15:40] <milen8204> hello all, I have tried to install Ubuntu 11.04 from disk, and I could not I received error massage: uncompression error -- System halted
[15:40] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis, I assume they don't know much know how to do it in Linux :)
[15:40] <milen8204> anyone can help
[15:40] <bahamas> allandee: yeah, it's a pain.
[15:40] <dr_willis> chenthu,  its some kernel option you use from the grub menu.
[15:40] <dr_willis> salonkikelpoinen,  they  would know more about it then we would in here...
[15:40] <chenthu> dr_willis: yeah but thats only after install but i am trying to install and this itself is a big probs
[15:41] <bahamas> allandee: btw, do you remember all the steps that we did so far?
[15:41] <salonkikelpoinen> dr_willis: anyway thx for the help
[15:41] <bahamas> allandee: i know i cloned a git repo, and downloaded that driver with wget. i don't have the links anymore, though
[15:41] <ministerdude> Untrusted software "libportmidi0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 pykaraoke-bin python-mutagen python-pygame python-pykaraoke ttf-dejavu" Where do I get it and how do I make it instal
[15:41] <ParkerR> salonkikelpoinen, PM
[15:42] <allandee> bahamas: can't say  that I do.  yes, cloning the git repo is a good anchor, because it will not wither like releases of a distro does
[15:42] <dr_willis> chenthu,  you can give the bootcd/menus options also. For my nvidia systems - i normally just needed the nomodeset option. There is a specirfifc option to disable specififc modules also.  this does NOT have to be done on a allready instaled system.. it can work from the lviecd
[15:42] <allandee> I have the link to that driver, hang on
[15:42] <mensvaga> what cd ripping software is good?
[15:43] <jackalista> from running "lspci -nn| less" I get Network controller [0280] Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [8086:c22] (rev 34)
[15:43] <bahamas> allandee: if you can find the link to the repo, it would be great as well
[15:43] <dr_willis> chenthu,  for all my nvidia systems. ive had to use nomodeset option  for the last few releases.. I will mention that in 11.10 - i dont have to any more. :) they fixed some stuff.
[15:43] <allandee> http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[15:43] <allandee> for the driver
[15:43] <chenthu> dr_willis:  i am very confident that i too require the nomodeset option cause thats what worked in my debian too.. but i was struggling how to edit it from the installer or liove cd menu now wols has given me the link and i found that so goona try
[15:44] <allandee> git://git.bu3sch.de/b43-tools.gi for the tools
[15:44] <dr_willis> chenthu,  the !nomodeset factoid has a url to guide with pictures..
[15:44] <dr_willis> its under the F6 optioons on the bootcd
[15:45] <jackalista> where can I find out how to get my wifi working, I am getting nowhere fast.  lspci -nn| less cmd produced only an Intel network controller
[15:45] <chenthu> dr_willis: yeah thats what wols gave me i am trying that... thank you
[15:47] <dp> anyone know if there's a PPA for newer versions of perl?
[15:47] <bahamas> allandee: great, thanks. these are the steps that i remember http://paste.pocoo.org/show/452613/
[15:48] <Zelda> can someone tell me if theres a application to throttle the CPU down, my CPU is running like mad 100% all the time and my notebook gets so hot. my fan is always at full speed
[15:48] <GirlyGirl> Zelda: powertop
[15:48] <xangua> dp: you can search on launchpad.net
[15:48] <Zelda> @girlygirl thanks ill try that
[15:49] <dr_willis> Zelda,  you may want to check th forums for that exact make laptop also. Could be some known bugs with some fix's out for it
[15:49] <dp> xangua: sadly, searching for perl on launchpad.net is not exactly helpful ;)
[15:49] <GirlyGirl> Zelda: You're welcome
[15:49] <Zelda> this is an HP 8510w
[15:49] <Zelda> Im having issues getting the HDMI to work as well.
[15:49] <allandee> bahamas: modprobe, even
[15:50] <allandee> bahamas: but the problem is that it was kind of specific to BroadCom 4313, and the firmware location is specific to Ubuntu.
[15:50] <allandee> but I really like the brevity
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows where to find error for theme change at boot in natty?
[15:51] <markmental> hi, I am having A problem with GNOME Office.
[15:51] <allandee> so "I got my bcm4313 to work with Ubuntu-something like this:" might land the searching soul right there
[15:51] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  check askubuntu.com and the forums yet? I recall some bug/issues with the gnome-settings-deamon crashing and causing theme change back to defaults.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes thats the problem, it sets itself to default
[15:52] <mmarbut> i'm between a rock and a hard place
[15:52] <markmental> when i installed gnome office from the software center i couldn't find it
[15:53] <dr_willis> gnome office? Hmm.. You mean OpenOffice? or LibreOficce?
[15:53] <mmarbut> i either need to reinstall unity or make ubuntu boot to classic desktop all the time
[15:53] <markmental> no gnome office its in  the software center
[15:53] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever used it..
[15:53] <amit2222> hii
[15:53] <mmarbut> any ideas?
[15:53] <dr_willis> select classic at gdm login. and it rembers...
[15:54] <mmarbut> I only get that option if I boot to gnome recovery console
[15:54] <overrider_> Is anyone using the Slim Login Manager, and finds that apps are crashing (such as vim file.txt)?
[15:54] <dr_willis> reinstalling 'stuff' rarely fixes things. if its a user setting issue...
[15:54] <mmarbut> i managed to disable unity with compiz
[15:54] <amit2222> I am learning python.. I instaled idle 2.6 through software center.. would it conflict with python 2.7 installed by default on ubuntu
[15:54] <markmental> i open up office and no program called gnome office comes up just abiword and gnumeric I don't know how they got their
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[15:54] <FloodBot1> ikonia11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <amit2222> I am learning python.. I instaled idle 2.6 through software center.. would it conflict with python 2.7 installed by default on ubuntu
[15:55] <bahamas> allandee: just wanted to say that it's clearly working because i'm now on wireless only
[15:55] <rumpe1> amit2222, are the differences so big? if you just started to learn, i doubt there would be a big difference
[15:55] <Duckfd> don't ping me for crap please
[15:55] <bahamas> allandee: thank you again
[15:55] <Pici> amit2222: no, it won't interfere.
[15:55] <allandee> bahamas: I am so glad to hear, and so happy to help ;)
[15:55] <amit2222> rumpel: i meant if they would not messup
[15:55] <markmental> could abiword and gnumeric be part of gnome office?
[15:55] <share> hi
[15:55] <RA_drc> ikonia: we are already in #ubuntu, why would you message us
[15:55] <bahamas> rumpe1: there are some differences but that's not what he's asking :)
[15:56] <JoshManders> Uhhhh, is there really a reason to spam this channel telling it's users to come to this channel?
[15:56] <Pici> RA_drc: Its spam, ignore it.
[15:56] <share> I suspended laptop without intention and now I can bring it back
[15:56] <amit2222> I was browsing ubuntu source .. a lot of new programmes seem written in python
[15:56] <Pici> JoshManders: Its spam, ignore it.
[15:56] <share> Help
[15:56] <agentdas> wifite takes awhile... 9 hours into a wpa crack
[15:56] <SkiOne> ikonia: what is up with the flood?
[15:56] <share> cant* :(
[15:56] <JoshManders> Pici: well yeah, I get that, but it's weird that he's spamming to bring people to THIS channel
[15:56] <bahamas> amit2222: yes, python is used a lot
[15:56] <GirlyGirl> ikonia: Why was I mentioned in such a flood?
[15:56] <amit2222> Pici: and rumpel thnx a lot
[15:57] <RA_drc> Pici: yeah, i know, but it doesn't make sense that ikonia would do taht
[15:57] <share> so lame
[15:57] <Pici> !botattack | GirlyGirl SkiOne
[15:57] <markmental> oh i just solved my own problem i opened up abiword and went to help and it said about gnome office
[15:57] <share> !suspension
[15:57] <Pici> RA_drc: Its not him, read the nick.
[15:57] <mmarbut> any idea how I can switch ubuntu perminantly to classic desktop
[15:57] <SkiOne> thanks
[15:57] <RA_drc> Pici: yeah, but that's ikonia real name, isnt it?
[15:57] <rumpe1> amit2222, installing from ppas is always a bit critical. I would recommend you first try to use the shipped version and later, if you are missing important features, decide again.
[15:57] <andycc> mmarbut: just run it in classic desktop mode once, and your preference will be remembered.
[15:58] <ldr> mmarbut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTtn4PPT1e8
[15:58] <mmarbut> I only get that option if I boot to recovery mode
[15:58] <mmarbut> standard boot I have no options
[15:58] <amit2222> rumpel: the version supplied with ubuntu is good but not a dedicated ide like IDLE
[15:58] <chenthu> wols_ and dr_willis : thank you its working....
[15:58] <Pici> RA_drc: Its it not endorsed by him.  They could slap anyone's name on that.
[15:58] <mmarbut> I am running in "low graphics mode"
[15:59] <th0r> Pici: that's a shame, first time I was ever at the top of a list
[15:59] <mmarbut> then I get a classic desktop option
[15:59] <mmarbut> do I need to install another kernal?
[15:59] <RA_drc> ikonia: wow, these spammers are good
[16:00] <usr13> mmarbut: What display adapter are you using?
[16:00] <mmarbut> intel accelerated grahpics on an i3-540
[16:00] <dr_willis> chenthu,  i will be happy when its no longer needed. :)
[16:01] <usr13> mmarbut: lspci | pastebinit
[16:01] <CharlieSu> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS and when I install the CouchDB package and then try to run /etc/init.d/couchdb stop I get 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops.  Anyone know what this may be?
[16:01] <andycc> mmarbut: if you have auto-login enabled, use the "log out" option to get to the GDM screen.
[16:01] <jackalista> trying to install on dell latitude E6420, wifi not working, lspci -nn | less listed an Intel net controller, nothing else seems network related, how do I make this work?
[16:01] <usr13> marshall: ... and send us resulting URL
[16:01] <usr13> mmarbut: ... and send us resulting URL
[16:01] <mmarbut> I dont have auto-login enabled
[16:02] <usr13> mmarbut: Or do lspci and send relevant line
[16:03] <mmarbut> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
[16:03] <usr13> jackalista: Do you have wired connection now?
[16:04] <jackalista> usr13: no, but I can do... why?
[16:04] <usr13> mmarbut: That's interesting, doesn't give model number.
[16:04] <jackalista> usr13; I am on another bx now but can do wired if itwil help...??
[16:04] <mmarbut> jackalista: I had the same problem I downloaded a windows wireless drivers (ndiswrapper) from software center and used that
[16:05] <usr13> jackalista: It will help to get it connected. You will be able to install needed software.
[16:05] <mmarbut> my problem is actually with unity
[16:05] <mmarbut> I accedentally disabled it along with something else from compiz
[16:05] <usr13> jackalista: What kind of wifi adapter is it?
[16:05] <mmarbut> I like classic desktop better anyways
[16:05] <jackalista> usr13: & mmarbut: ok, I wil have to drop out of here and come back on that box
[16:06] <usr13> jackalista: ok
[16:06] <jackalista> usr13: Del Latitude E6420
[16:06] <chenthu> dr_willis: true me too.... i will be happy if its no longer needed..... but people cant keep supporting old hardware .....
[16:06] <geegeegee> ikonia, fuck off spamming people
[16:07] <geegeegee> faggot
[16:07] <jackalista> usr13: when I ran lspci -nn | less the only network related thing that showed up was an Intel network controller
[16:07] <mmarbut> jackalista: dell will allow you to download their wireless drivers with your service tag and you can use it with ndiswrapper
[16:08] <mmarbut> brb
[16:08] <jackalista> usr13: Network controller [0280] Intel Corp. Centrin Advanced-N 6205 [8086:0082] (rev 34)
[16:08] <je0rJey> how do i get activex controls in firefox?..  or is there any other browser in linux which supports it
[16:08] <usr13> jackalista: I think that is the ethernet device.
[16:09] <usr13> jackalista: lspci | pastebinit
[16:09] <usr13> jackalista: and send us resulting URL
[16:09] <jackalista> usr13: will drop out of here and come back on that dell box.. thanks for your help!! [I am semi exper. linux *user* but this is waaaay over my head]
[16:09] <usr13> ok
[16:09] <jackalista> usr13: resulting URL from what?
[16:10] <ldr> jackalista from posting lspci in pastebin
[16:11] <mmarbut> looks like I have an id10t error
[16:11] <ldr> !pastebin
[16:11] <jackalista> usr13: got it, I missed that coment, I'm new here too (load sof fun! ;)
[16:12] <usr13> jackalista: lspci | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[16:12] <usr13> jackalista: Are you on that box now?
[16:13] <chenthu> guys which froot filesystem should i be using to install ubuntu 11.04
[16:13] <chenthu> root*
[16:13] <jackalista> usr13: ok, will have to come back on that box wired, I need to apt-get pastebinit
[16:13] <usr13> ok
[16:14] <usr13> chenthu: ext3
[16:14] <Champion03> Ikonia sent me, and your channel stinks.
[16:14] <chenthu> usr13:  if using ext4 is wrong?
[16:15] <usr13> chenthu: ext4  Yes
[16:15] <hotface> ikonia is a fucking troll
[16:15] <usr13> chenthu: use ext4
[16:15] <chenthu> Champion03: please dont be rude
[16:15] <Champion03> Please do not allow regulars of your channel to spam #freenode with links to here.
[16:15] <edbian> ikonia: When did you become a troll?
[16:16] <usr13> Champion03: Leave
[16:16] <Champion03> Once, again, on behalf of #freenode, please do not permit regulars to spam #freenode
[16:16] <Champion03> From the freenode staff.
[16:16] <chenthu> usr13:  but it says "No root file system is defined"... do i have to select a mount point "/"?
[16:17] <usr13> Champion03: how do you expect us to control actions of others?
[16:17] <edbian> chenthu: At least one partition must be 'used as' /
[16:17] <usr13> chenthu: It is saying that you have not selected a partation for  /   (which is root directory)
[16:17] <CharlieSu> Is there a way to install a server package like MySQL or couchDB and tell the installer to NOT start the service after installation ?
[16:18] <edbian> CharlieSu: I don't think so.  but you can turn it off right away sudo service <name> stop
[16:19] <chenthu> edbian:  i have a 105 gb partition of my 320 gb hard disk for ubuntu and i have 4.4 gb swap partition for debian so do i have to create another swap space for ubuntu or will it use the 4.4 gb swap  partition?
[16:19] <CharlieSu> edbian: I can't actually..  when I install the CouchDB package and then try to run /etc/init.d/couchdb stop I get 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops
[16:19] <edbian> chenthu: You do not need a new swap
[16:19] <dr_willis> chenthu,  if you use hibernate/suspend - then  You dont want to share the swap. otherwise you can
[16:19] <chenthu> usr13: ok
[16:19] <edbian> CharlieSu: there appears to be an error in the source code of couchdb
[16:19] <jrib> CharlieSu: only way that I know is to modify the postinst file :/
[16:20] <dr_willis> chenthu,  you could share the same 'home' partition if you really wanted to.
[16:20] <CharlieSu> edbian: yeah..  looks like it
[16:20] <CharlieSu> edbian: i think it is probably the init script ..
[16:20] <chenthu> edbian:  ok
[16:20] <edbian> dr_willis: That might cause problems with different versions of the same program writing different things into his home.
[16:20] <edbian> CharlieSu: try the sudo service <name> stop syntax
[16:20] <chenthu> dr_willis: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:22] <CharlieSu> edbian: i have.. doesn't work either
[16:22] <jrib> CharlieSu: with the same output?
[16:22] <chenthu> edbian: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:22] <edbian> CharlieSu: Then I'm not sure.
[16:23] <CharlieSu> jrib: no output...
[16:23] <CharlieSu> jrib: it says it is shutting down and it never does..
[16:23] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have a lots of fonts, and i am looking for one, but I can't find it in /usr/share/fonts, I know it has to be there somewhere because I can see it in libreOffice's writer, but i  want to use it in another program, How do i find out in what folder is located using the terminal?
[16:24] <jrib> CharlieSu: what is your end-goal?
[16:24] <edbian> chenthu: when you hibernate the system stores everything into the swap partition on the hdd then turns off.  When it boots it checks the swap for a valid hibernation image, if it finds one it boots that.  ubuntu will see Debian's hibernate image and not recognize it and erase it, Debian will do the same to ubuntu's hibernate image.  Does that make sense?  It's up to you if you want to have 2 swaps or one, there are pros / cons to both decisions
[16:25] <CharlieSu> jrib: Well I'm doing automation on AWS using Chef.  I want to use a custom data directory which means I need an entry in local.ini.  that file doesn't exists until after couch is installed..  I'm triggering a restart of the service once that file is replaced, but the shutdown script doesn't work...
[16:25] <jrib> CharlieSu: see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/448682 is relevant
[16:26] <jrib> CharlieSu: was there any error output when you installed it?
[16:26] <CharlieSu> jrib: no there wasn't any error when I installed it..
[16:27] <dr_willis> edbian,  use differnt user names. :)
[16:27] <CharlieSu> jrib: I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS using a fresh install.  I used the package manager to install
[16:27] <edbian> dr_willis: clever!
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: i don't think that bug is the reason
[16:28] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you pastebin the init script?
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: yes..  one moment..
[16:28] <CharlieSu> jrib: give me 5.. i'll fire up a new instance
[16:28] <jrib> CharlieSu: also, when you said  you ran "/etc/init.d/couchdb stop", did you run that with sudo?
[16:29] <jrib> CharlieSu: ok
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: haha yes..
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: well w/ sudo and as root.. tried both
[16:29] <jrib> CharlieSu: are you calling it from just the default gnome-terminal with default bash shell?
[16:29] <CharlieSu> jrib: no GUI's ever...  bash..
[16:29] <jrib> although I guess that wouldn't matter.. I'll wait for the script
[16:29] <sneakyimp> Can anyone tell me what the 'landscape' account is for?  My tiger report says "Login ID landscape appears to be a dormant account".  I'm inclined to delete this user -- would that break anything?
[16:29] <chenthu> edbian and dr_willis : sry i got disconnected....
[16:30] <edbian> chenthu: no worries
[16:30] <sipior> sneakyimp: just disable the login, if you want.
[16:30] <chenthu> dr_willis and edbian: i dont wanna share the home partition but i will be using hibernate so i think i create a new swap partition?
[16:31] <chenthu> edbian: or can i use the other swap partition though i might be using hibernate... ?\
[16:31] <researcher123456> hello everybody
[16:31] <sneakyimp> sipior: thx.  "disable" the login?  As in set default shell to /bin/false?
[16:31] <researcher123456> may I ask questions here?
[16:31] <jackalista> usr13: what was that command again?  lspci | paste<something>?
[16:31] <dr_willis> be sure swap parittion is size of ram. (or bigger) to hiernate
[16:32] <sipior> sneakyimp: that, and set the password entry in /etc/shadow to "*"
[16:32] <sneakyimp> sipior:  thx!  rep++
[16:32] <dr_willis> theres command line tools to do that shadow file editing..
[16:32] <dr_willis> its not a good idea to be editing it by hand.
[16:33] <chenthu> dr_willis: ok thanks you
[16:33] <researcher123456> is it possible to install more systems with better GUI at login ?
[16:33] <sipior> dr_willis: big boys manage just fine :-) but yes, "passwd -l" will also work.
[16:34] <jackalista> hi folks, I was reccommended to run lspci | pastebinit, not sure if that paste<something> is correct, can someone please clarify?  thx!
[16:34] <CharlieSu> jrib: http://pastebin.com/04W2KRsd
[16:35] <dr_willis> jackalista,  pastebinit is a command you install.
[16:35] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[16:35] <jackalista> dr_willis: thx!
[16:36] <jrib> CharlieSu: by the way, to answer your original question, there appears to be a way to stop daemons from being started when they are installed: apparently just create /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d with "#!/bin/sh; exit 101"
[16:36] <jackalista> ubottu: thx!!
[16:36] <CharlieSu> jrib: interesting.  and I can leave that file there forever?
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[16:36] <FloodBot1> ikonia13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <Calinou> he left, lol
[16:37] <head_victim> Awww someone loves ikonia
[16:37] <Demonen> I'm guessing ikonia[0-9]+ is not operated by ikonia?
[16:37] <maco> Demonen: bingo
[16:37] <tensorpudding> lol
[16:37] <Hyperbyte> Hi!  Ubuntu 11.04.  NFS mount specified in /etc/fstab, but boot takes an insanely long time, because it can't resolve the NFS server.  When I mount it right after boot, it works fine.  Seems like it's trying to mount NFS before the network is initialized properly?  Any hints?
[16:37] <tensorpudding> spamming #ubuntu to visit #ubuntu?
[16:38] <maco> tensorpudding: spammers are stupid
[16:38] <jdevel> lol
[16:38] <jdevel> I know
[16:38] <sipior> tensorpudding: spamming the whole of freenode, in fact.
[16:38] <Demonen> Originally I came here to rant and rave about how ikonia should be shot, but it suddenly hit me that that's what the operator of these bots want :-P
[16:38] <sipior> well, some large subset of it.
[16:38] <Demonen> #Perl was hit just now
[16:38] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  one 'work around' would be to use /etc/rc.local and a command to mount it.  after perhaps a sleep 20 line, to make sure network is all working.
[16:38] <jackalista> dr_willis: I tried to apt-get install pastebinit and got "E: Unable to locate package pastebinit", how do I find it?
[16:38] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  i seem to recall some other fix's also.
[16:38] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[16:39] <dr_willis> jackalista,  make sure your 'universe' repository is enabled.
[16:39] <adam11x> what directories should i backup to restore programs and configs after ubuntu reinstall?
[16:39] <jackalista> dr_willis: how do I do that?
[16:39] <dr_willis> !universe
[16:39] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, I'd prefer a fix rather than workaround, because this machine is an LTSP server and I bet other services are having problems too with this.  Any ideas? :)
[16:39] <chenthu> dr_willis: should swap be primary or logical?
[16:40] <jrib> CharlieSu: the way I read it (here's a link that's not an e-mail: http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt) scripts usually call invoke-rc.d but if you have policy-rc.d that gets called.  I'm not sure where else invoke-rc.d is called and don't know what the consequences would be
[16:40] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  not really. i saw it mentioned once about delaying things untill networking is up. but never had to mess with it.
[16:40] <dr_willis> chenthu,  dosent matter.
[16:40] <th0r> adam11x: all the configs should be in your home directory. As to the software, see aptoncd
[16:40] <chenthu> dr_willis: ok thanks
[16:40] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, hrm... network-manager is 'off' in chkconfig.  Could this have something do with it?
[16:41] <dr_willis> Hyperbyte,  no idea. ive rarely had to mess with the boot/service orders.
[16:41] <Hyperbyte> Hrm...
[16:41] <Hyperbyte> Okay
[16:41]  * Hyperbyte tries. :)
[16:41] <adam11x> th0r: thanks ill take a look
[16:41] <jrib> CharlieSu: my guess is it is not smart to leave it there as scripts might want to do things like restart a service and won't be able to use invoke-rc.d to do so
[16:42] <dr_willis> theres always the forums and askubuntu.com Hyperbyte  - i bet this q. has been asked befor on those. :)
[16:43] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:43] <Hyperbyte> dr_willis, true.  Thanks.
[16:43] <CharlieSu> jrib: any clue about that init script?
[16:45] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: To wait for network to be up, sleepy-loop and do a single ping, checking the return code.
[16:45] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Of course, ping the host you need to be up.
[16:46] <jrib> CharlieSu: well it's kind of weird that it says it can't "cd to /root" when it shouldn't be trying to anywhere that I see :/
[16:46] <CharlieSu> jrib: yeah i hear ya.  I'm not sure either.  I promise I'm not doing anything stupid....
[16:47] <Demonen> jrib: Where is effective ~?
[16:47] <Demonen> Also, what are you talking about?
[16:47] <jrib> CharlieSu: is there a couch script in /etc/init?
[16:48] <johwil> Is there a way to programm the iPhone using Ubuntu?
[16:48] <jrib> Demonen: when CharlieSu executes "/etc/init.d/couchdb stop" he gets: 'cd: 88: can't cd to /root' and the service never stops
[16:48] <jrib> Demonen: init script in question: http://pastebin.com/04W2KRsd
[16:48] <CharlieSu> jrib: no there isn't.
[16:48] <sneakyimp> I'm using tiger for a security audit.  It complains "/etc/profile does not export an initial setting for PATH".  Does /etc/profile really need to set a PATH?
[16:49] <sneakyimp> johwil: not any apple-sanctioned way.
[16:49] <johwil> :(
[16:49] <jrib> sneakyimp: tiger?
[16:49] <jrib> sneakyimp: never mind
[16:49] <sneakyimp> jrib:  apt-cache search tiger
[16:50] <johwil> CharlieSu: :(
[16:50] <Hyperbyte> Demomen, the problem is that it boots all network services without bringing the network up.
[16:50] <jrib> johwil: google saurik sdk linux (maybe)
[16:50] <sneakyimp> johwil: can you afford a mac mini?  that's all you need really.  or a 'hackintosh'.  the dev tools are free.  however, there is a $99 charge to publish any apps.
[16:51] <Hyperbyte> I can't go around modifying all network services to do a sleep until it gets a ping...
[16:51] <johwil> jrib Thanks
[16:51] <CharlieSu> jrib: ok here is a brand new install with example shutdown commands...  https://gist.github.com/221392084895b5f01e32
[16:51] <Hyperbyte> Well I suppose I could, but it's not very feasible.
[16:52] <jrib> CharlieSu: hmm, this kind of reminds me of that bug
[16:52] <Demonen> CharlieSu, jrib: That error isn't coming from that script... Something else is being invoked.  Tried manually executing the shutdown command?
[16:52] <Hyperbyte> Someone running Ubuntu 11.04, could they show me the output of   chkconfig --all networking   and   chkconfig -all network-manager   please?
[16:52] <CharlieSu> Demonen: what other command?
[16:53] <jrib> Hyperbyte: I have no such command
[16:53] <CharlieSu> jrib: yeah i guess so.. Also line 11 has that error..  far right...
[16:53] <Hyperbyte> What's the normal command in Ubuntu to control startup services? :)
[16:54] <CharlieSu> Demonen: what do you mean by 'manually executing the shutdown command' ?
[16:54] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, service networking status
[16:54] <johwil> sneakyimp: Hackingtosh, Never heard of it. Is it ANY GOOD?
[16:54] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you confirm you tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/453049/comments/10 with no positive results?
[16:54] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, likewise for network-manager
[16:55] <Demonen> CharlieSu: su couchdb -c "/usr/bin/couchdb -d"
[16:55] <sneakyimp> johwil:  it's a generic term for installing OSX on non-mac hardware.  try googling hackintosh.  ideally, you get OSX running on really nice hardware without paying the ridiculous apple price for it
[16:55] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, networking stop/waiting, network-manager running
[16:55] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Swap "couchdb" with whatever the actual user it runs as is
[16:56] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, network manager starts, just not at the right time I believe.
[16:56] <CharlieSu> Demonen: it gives me 'Apache CouchDB is not running.'
[16:56] <CharlieSu> Demonen: and it is.
[16:56] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, I haven't followed from the beginning, so I don't know exactly what you're trying to do
[16:56] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Wonky.  Sure you gave it the right user?
[16:57] <CharlieSu> Demonen: actually look
[16:57] <CharlieSu> https://gist.github.com/a8e371a0331361980991
[16:57] <johwil> sneakyimp:  Great! Thanks. I eill start programming apps for my own use...
[16:57] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, basically, I moved my harddisk over to a new server.  Everything works, except for the tiny detail that all network services are starting when there seems to be no network.
[16:57] <Hyperbyte> After boot (which takes around 5 minutes due to all kinds of timeouts needing to finish), I can get a prompt and networking is up.
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: It is as I said, then.  The problem is -not- in the init script, but in the bowls of couchdb.   It probably looks for it's pidfile in ~ or something, and is not allowed in /root/
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: What's couchdb's homedir?
[16:58] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, and you would want the network service to be disabled on boot ?
[16:58] <Demonen> CharlieSu: The user, that is?
[16:58] <jrib> CharlieSu: can you « cd / » and attempt that again?
[16:58] <CharlieSu> couchdb:x:107:113:CouchDB Administrator,,,:/var/lib/couchdb:/bin/bash
[16:59] <jrib> ah wait, I see what's happening -_-
[16:59] <CharlieSu> https://gist.github.com/6167319187ce688f8822
[16:59] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, definitely not.  It's a server, it's network should be always up.  It just needs to start it before it tries nfsmount, ypbind, etc..
[16:59] <Demonen> Right, and /var/lib/couchdb exists and is readable and writable by couchdb?
[16:59] <CharlieSu> jrib: it is still running..
[16:59] <CharlieSu> Demonen: yes it is...
[16:59] <CharlieSu> Access: (0770/drwxrwx---)  Uid: (  107/ couchdb)   Gid: (  113/ couchdb)
[16:59] <Demonen> CharlieSu: Go there and try again?
[17:00] <CharlieSu> nothing
[17:00] <Demonen> nothing is good.
[17:00] <Demonen> Did it stop?
[17:00] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, in that  case you'll have to modify the upstart scripts for the network service
[17:00] <Demonen> If so, then it was just failing to find it's pidfile.
[17:01] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, by default it waits until all local filesystems are mounted and dbus is up
[17:02] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, but be careful with it, I don't know exactly what is required for the network services to be able to work, I guess those conditions were put there for a reason
[17:03] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, mmm.  I need to tinker a bit with this.  Thanks either way for the pointers! :-)
[17:03] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, you're welcome
[17:04] <Hyperbyte> Another thing... Ubuntu doesn't show anything during boot.  Not even GRUB.  After BIOS, the screen turns black (it stays on, but entirely black - not even a cursor)... only once GDM starts it shows display again.  Anyone got any ideas about that? :-)
[17:04] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Wild guess is that your graphics hardware doesn't support the default framebuffer.
[17:05] <Demonen> But yeah, guesswork.
[17:05] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, just had a look at the upstart scripts on my server, it seems the conditions are not the same as on my laptop, the network-manager has a "start on net-device-added" conditino
[17:05] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, maybe you could try that
[17:06] <Hyperbyte> Demonen, it's brand new hardware.  Or does that have nothing to do with it?
[17:07] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: The age of your hardware does not impact my ability to guess ;)  Could be.  Nvidia?
[17:07] <mega1_> If I install ubuntu 11over 10 will it keep all my settings
[17:08] <Demonen> mega1_: Just upgrade?
[17:08] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, the fact that grub doesn't show up is normal, as by default grub menu only appears when you press the shift key
[17:08] <Hyperbyte> Demonen, ASUS EAH5450.. ATI Radeon HD5xxx chipset
[17:09] <wols_> Hyperbyte: a hd5xxx is anything but new
[17:09] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Define "brand new", please.
[17:09] <mega1_> Will it find any new hardware
[17:09] <Hyperbyte> I kinda meant I bought it new. :)
[17:09] <Hyperbyte> Heheh
[17:10] <Demonen> mega1_: Yeah, the kernel will be replaced.
[17:10] <wols_> mega1_: yes and yes. at least that's the intended way
[17:11] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: ATi and Linux have been enemies for so long I sort of stopped paying attention to how the ATi clusterfsck was doing.  Sooo... I have no idea, and revert to my guess.
[17:11] <jose> Ubuntu-es
[17:11] <TheLifelessOne> Does encrypting installation increase the startup time?
[17:11] <Hyperbyte> Okay
[17:11] <Hyperbyte> nvidia it'll be.
[17:11]  * Hyperbyte grabs another video card.
[17:11] <wols_> Hyperbyte: both, flgrx and the xorg ati driver support your card just fine
[17:11] <Demonen> wols_: Yes, but does the primary/default framebuffer support it?
[17:12] <Demonen> TheLifelessOne: Depends both on the encryption and the hardware involved.
[17:12] <wols_> Demonen: yes
[17:12] <Demonen> wols_: Then my guess was wrong, I suppose.
[17:12] <TheLifelessOne> Demonen: I'm running the installation via a Virtual Machine, and the encryption is whatever the mini .ISO of the latest release uses.
[17:13] <Demonen> TheLifelessOne: If you're already viritualizing, do one with and one without, and measure the startup time?
[17:14] <Demonen> TheLifelessOne: Generally speaking, however, it won't be much of an issue on a modern CPU
[17:14] <TheLifelessOne> Alright, I'll do that. Thanks.
[17:14] <TheLifelessOne> Demonen: Eh, my CPU isn't so modern: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @ 1.80GHz (single-core). :/
[17:15] <ph8> hi all, i'm running rsync every 5 minutes to sync changes from a directory. Sometimes a big file means that one sync takes longer than 5 minutes, in this situation a second copy of the syncer starts, sometimes 3 or 4 copies! Any idea how i can stop this?
[17:15] <Hyperbyte> Demonen, same thing with a different videocard.  Could it be there's some configuration somewhere left over from the previous motherboard/videocard, that's making it do this?
[17:15] <wols_> ph8: with a lock of some sort
[17:16] <wols_> Hyperbyte: possibly. grub video and kernel video have nothing to do with each other
[17:16] <Hyperbyte> wols_, well, they both don't show text during boot.  If I press ctrl+alt+f2 after it's booted I get all my text fine.
[17:17] <Hyperbyte> In fact, even before GDM starts it displays the boot messages with [OK] [OK] (etc.) for a second.
[17:17] <Hyperbyte> As in, right before GDM starts.
[17:18] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: That's the framebuffer not being showed for a moment.
[17:18] <t4nk741> hi, I'm using XDisplayHeightMM from X11/Xlib.h. On one machine it returns 203, while the other return 41351. Can someone point out to me why the second machine returns that bigger value?
[17:18] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Alt+F1 during boot?
[17:18] <zai> hi guys, testing the latest stable live version of ubuntu on a lenovo ideapad (the netbook). it seems to be booting gnome... what do I have to do to boot it with unity? is there still a seperate netbook version of ubuntu?
[17:18] <jackalista> dr_willis: here's the URL from lspci | pastebinit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658754/
[17:18] <Demonen> t4nk741: Different DPI?
[17:19] <dury> hi there channel ... geeesss :(
[17:19] <t4nk741> same dpi
[17:19] <Demonen> t4nk741: Color me surprised, then.  Same resolution, too?
[17:19] <Hyperbyte> Demonen, pressing Alt+F1 during boot doesn't show the messages
[17:19] <dury> no panels to minimize
[17:19] <t4nk741> yes
[17:19] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Alt+F2?
[17:19] <wols_> !info iwlagn
[17:20] <Hyperbyte> Tried 'em all. :)
[17:20] <dury> to log out nothing
[17:20] <Demonen> Hyperbyte: Alt+ALLOFTHEM?
[17:20] <Demonen> :)
[17:20] <wols_> jackalista: ubuntu supports both your ethernet and wlan chips
[17:20] <Hyperbyte> Demonen, nope. :)
[17:20] <Demonen> Okay, then something reminecent of water-dwelling organisms is transpiring.
[17:20] <Demonen> (something fishy is afoot)
[17:20] <markmental> hello is there a way to remove gedit with removing ubuntu desktop?
[17:20] <markmental> without
[17:20] <markmental> i mean
[17:21] <Demonen> markmental: Why?
[17:21] <wols_> markmental: no. ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[17:21] <dury> I was in unity trying to put the cube and now can't go back
[17:21] <markmental> because I want to use mousepad
[17:21] <wols_> markmental: then use it. no one prevents you even with gedit installed
[17:21] <dury> How do I run compiz
[17:22] <markmental> okay
[17:22] <markmental> thanks
[17:22] <wols_> dury: are you using unity?
[17:22] <dury> wols_: I guess so
[17:22] <jackalista> wols_: that's good news... so why isn't it working and what do I have to do to make it work?
[17:22] <TheLifelessOne> is it possible to downgrade an installation to a lower version?
[17:22] <wols_> then you already use it
[17:22] <xangua> TheLifelessOne: no
[17:22] <wols_> !doesn't work | jackalista
[17:22] <xangua> tehr than reinstall
[17:22] <TheLifelessOne> aaaah damn.
[17:22] <xangua> other*
[17:23] <dury> wols_: what should I do?
[17:23] <markmental> how can i make mousepad the default text editor?
[17:23] <TheLifelessOne> I'd install, but I seem to have misplaced the iso.
[17:23] <TheLifelessOne> Oh well. I'll just redownload it, I suppose.
[17:23] <pythonirc1012> does anyone know when youtube-dl will be fixed for ubuntu? Seems broken for now.
[17:23] <markmental> or do i have to stick with gedit as default
[17:24] <puka1> hi
[17:24] <esing> hi
[17:24] <esing> i want to urnrar splitted rar files but when doing so i receive an error: "1 failed"
[17:24] <glebihan> markmental, right-click on a text file, go to properties -> open with and select mousepad
[17:24] <dury> wols_: the window or application hasn't got the option to minimize
[17:24] <TheLifelessOne> Ha! Downloading 8.04 and I still get 1MB/s. People like to seed old distros. :D
[17:24] <esing> how would i proceed having no gui to unrar
[17:24] <jackalista> ubottu:sorry, I can't get the wireless to connect.  it will connect with windows but won't with ubuntu 11.04 (I'm tryi8ng it, must get it to work before installing as it's a work computer).  thx!!
[17:24] <markmental> okay thanks
[17:24] <esing> unrar e name.rar ?
[17:25] <iridium> esing, usually, rar x name.rar
[17:25] <esing> ok i try it
[17:25] <dury> wols_: even not option to log out to go to ubuntu classic
[17:25] <wols_> jackalista: dmesg |grep iwl
[17:25] <glebihan> esing, unrar e name.rar should also work
[17:26] <jackalista> can anyone tell me how to get my wireless to work?  wols_, that pastebinit link and the page it pulls up indicates that the hardware is supported?  so why won't my wireless connect?
[17:26] <iridium> yes, but is wise to extract with full path
[17:26] <esing> glebihan doesnt work it says command not found
[17:26] <edbian> jackalista: what card do yo uhave?
[17:26] <wols_> jackalista: missing firmware for your wlan. firmware is non-free software
[17:26] <jackalista> wols: k, hold on, will run it
[17:26] <jjgalvez__> anyone know if there is a fix for the systray? after setting the white list to "all" I usually can't click on any of the icons, I was hopping that his would be fixed at some point
[17:26] <iridium> esing, sudo apt-get install rar
[17:26] <dury> wols_: need a shourcut to run compiz manager settings
[17:26] <wols_> edbian: /lastlog jackalista
[17:26] <Ratty> Hi, has anyone been able to get lirc-modules-source installed on the 3.0.x kernel?
[17:26] <glebihan> esing, that's because unrar is not installed (and it is not a free package btw)
[17:27] <edbian> wols_: That bring up a blank window?
[17:27] <CharlieSu> Demonen: it didn't stop...
[17:27] <esing> package rar has no installation candidate
[17:27] <ph8> wols_, is there anything built into rsync do you know?
[17:27] <wols_> edbian: then use whatever your irc client uses to check the backlog
[17:27] <wols_> ph8: I don't#
[17:27] <mouse> druy youtube has a video on setup compiz on 11.04 if that's what your trying to do? link is:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVR1y9cJHWA&feature=mh_lolz&list=FLrffhKw8yOM8
[17:28] <edbian> wols_: :P
[17:28] <glebihan> esing, do you have the multiverse repositories enabled ?
[17:28] <esing> glebihan: would i have to update my app-get list ?
[17:28] <esing> glebihan not sure? how do i find the repository file agaiN?
[17:28] <jackalista> edbian: I don't know... I ran lspci | pastebinit and wols_ says wlan is supported but firmware is not loaded (and not free, but I don't care  about that)
[17:28] <jackalista> wols_: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dmesg |grep iwl [   85.537568] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, in-tree: [   85.537570] iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2010 Intel Corporation [   85.537612] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [   85.537621] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [   85.537648] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6205 AGN, REV=0xB0 [   85.5548
[17:28] <glebihan> esing, via ubuntu software center -> edit -> software sources
[17:29] <edbian> jackalista: Yeah I can see that.  You have a Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (the 6250 is wimax!!)  6205 AGN, REV=0xB0 [   85.5548
[17:29] <edbian> * stercor has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
 esing, via ubuntu software center -> edit -> software sources
[17:29] <esing> glebihan i dont have a gui
[17:29] <edbian> oops
[17:29] <esing> would need a path
[17:29] <wols_> jackalista: iwconfig. and this time: pastebin, not in the channel
[17:29] <edbian> jackalista: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/centrino-advanced-n-6205.html   That's your device
[17:29] <glebihan> esing, oh sorry, then by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:29] <esing> ah thx
[17:29] <edbian> wols_: Do you need help helping him or am I just annoying ?
[17:30] <jackalista> edbian: thanks, I see that now... I suspected that was it but I am not a system level geek... edbian & wols_: so what do I have to do?  firmware must be installed?  so how to do that?
[17:30] <esing> n multiverse is not enabled
[17:30] <esing> how would i enable it?
[17:31] <jilbert> test
[17:31] <wols_> edbian: feel free. it's acentrino 62xx
[17:31] <glebihan> esing, you just have to add multiverse at the end of the line containing the main ubuntu repositories
[17:31] <edbian> wols_: The driver?
[17:31] <meson10> Hi. I have Ubuntu 11.04 and a Radeon Series HD 6470 and i followed the instructions available on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu . Installation went smooth. But i received arbit Lines on the GDM Login Screen. Though i could see my cursor. I check xorg.log for no apparent errors either. Have i missed a trick or two ?
[17:31] <edbian> jackalista: researching.  Generally all you need to do is install a package but I have to figure out which one
[17:31] <bencahill> hey guys, is there a program that can search-as-you-type inside files?
[17:31] <esing> "main restricted universe" to "main restricted universe multiverse" ??
[17:31] <jackalista> edbian & wols_: much thanks!!!
[17:31] <glebihan> esing, yep
[17:31] <esing> oki thx
[17:31] <wols_> edbian: the wlan chip he wants to get working
[17:31] <jackalista> edbian: awesome... thx much!
[17:32] <dury> is anyone available to assist me please?
[17:32] <hwilde> !ask | dury
[17:32] <edbian> wols_: I saw his lspci pastebin: it was an intel centrino advanced-n 6205 (is that different than an acentrino 62xx)
[17:32] <esing> k now it works =)
[17:32] <glebihan> esing, cool
[17:33] <dury> how to run compiz manager settings, please
[17:33] <markmental> is their usb support in wine?
[17:33] <glebihan> dury, run "ccsm" (you may have to install it first)
[17:33] <wols_> !ccsm | dury
[17:34] <hwilde> markmental, yes
[17:34] <edbian> jackalista: sudo iwlist scan     What does that command output?
[17:34] <markmental> how do i get it
[17:34] <edbian> jackalista: Just describe it, you don't have to pastebin or copy / paste
[17:34] <jackalista> edb ikan: hold on...
[17:34] <markmental> is it in the wine beta?
[17:34] <edbian> wols_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Centrino_Advanced-N_6205
[17:34] <edbian> jackalista: not my name...
[17:34] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[17:34] <edbian> :P
[17:35] <dury> how can I run ccsm?
[17:35] <edbian> dury: compizconfig-settings-manager at the cli
[17:35] <glebihan> dury, press Alt+F2 then type ccsm
[17:35] <wols_> edbian: I know but he said it wouldn't work
[17:35] <edbian> wols_: interesting
[17:35] <edbian> jackalista: Did you run it?
[17:36] <jackalista> edbian: sorry, terrrible at typos.  :) have the output, it's HUGE, put it in here?
[17:36] <jackalista> edbian: yes, it spit out a huge amount of text, what am I looking for?
[17:36] <wols_> jackalista: is the AP you want to connect to listed?
[17:36] <glebihan> jackalista, no, use pastebin if you have to paste
[17:36] <edbian> jackalista: put it here: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:36] <edbian> jackalista: Look at it, do you see wireless networks listed?
[17:36] <dury> glebihan:if I press Alt+F2 not success :(
[17:37] <snax> hi
[17:37] <wols_> dury: open an xterm and enter it there
[17:37] <snax> how can I toggle from window to window with in the same workspace?  Where do I set that keystroke?
[17:37] <jackalista> edbian: just a sec... I do see wireless networks on my system GUI
[17:37] <dury> but how, wols_?
[17:37] <edbian> jackalista: it's working
[17:37] <edbian> jackalista: that was easy
[17:38] <edbian> snax: is ccsm
[17:38] <mouse> druy u can download ccsm from software manager or type in a terminal: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[17:38] <edbian> wols_: I showed you up!
[17:38] <jackalista> edbian: yes, the output of that command is a ton of wireless networks.  I can't connect to mine however (it *is* listed)
[17:39] <glaksmono> how do you tail a file and pipe in grep on it (colored)?
[17:39] <dury> can't open terminal even xterm a bug in compiz setting manager
[17:39] <edbian> jackalista: Try turning off all security and connecting.
[17:39] <glaksmono> i suck at unix cmd sorry :(
[17:39] <wols_> edbian: and what did you actually _do_ that solved the problem? I haven't seen you make him change anything or install anything, right?
[17:39] <edbian> jackalista: The card is working if wifi networks show up. (in the gui or from the command)
[17:39] <markmental> will synaptic be in 11.10?
[17:39] <Demonen> glaksmono: Sounds like a job for multitail
[17:39] <wols_> dury: what bug?
[17:39] <edbian> wols_: That's right.  It was simply working when I told him to run sudo iwlist scan
[17:39] <edbian> hahahaha
[17:39] <edbian> I get all the easy ones
[17:40] <jackalista> edbian: yes but it won't connect to mine.  how do I get that to work?
[17:40] <dury> wols_: I don't know how to call it :(
[17:40] <luite> I need to buy a new laptop, and want to run ubuntu, now I've read that the battery life of a macbook pro on ubuntu is 40% shorter than on OS X. are other brands similar, which components can cause these issues?
[17:40] <edbian> jackalista: Try to connect with all the security turned off
[17:40] <edbian> dury: compigconfig-settings-manager
[17:40] <wols_> dury: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html  read it and learn basic things like how to start programs
[17:41] <wols_> edbian: so no connection yet. and why no WPA directly? not as if nm makes it hard
[17:41] <dury> Can't run nothing except the icons I have in the desktop :(
[17:41] <jackalista> edbian: what security?  I am able to connect under windows but it tries to connect and fails on ubuntu...
[17:41] <Demonen> luite: haha, what?  Who told you that?  Remember that 63% of all statistics like that are made up on the spot.
[17:42] <edbian> wols_: I don't know.  I'm not convinced it was working.  Just being silly mostly.  I wnat him to turn off all security to see if he can connect to an open network.  Sometimes wpa / wpa2 cause problems
[17:42] <bencahill> Demonen: lol
[17:42] <edbian> jackalista: Do you have wep or wpa or wpa2 passwords etc ?
[17:42] <mattalexx> What is the name of the package in ubuntu that provides gnome?
[17:42] <luite> Demonen: I read it a few times on the ubuntu forms and the wiki
[17:42] <mdgeorge1> hello.
[17:42] <wols_> luite: for macbooks this is right. the same applies to windows there. with other laptop, linux can be worse or better both than windows
[17:42] <glaksmono> Demonen: can you explain that? :-/
[17:43] <luite> Demonen: forums that is
[17:43] <Demonen> luite: Strikes me as very odd, but okay.  News to me.
[17:43] <glebihan> mattalexx, gnome...
[17:43] <jackalista> edbian: wpa/wpa2 I think, it pops up a dialog that asks for the password and I think it comes up showing wpa/wpa2
[17:43] <Demonen> glaksmono: Explain what?
[17:43] <mdgeorge1> I keep getting an error message when I log into gnome: "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors"
[17:43] <mdgeorge1> everything works okay, it's just annoying
[17:43] <mdgeorge1> any suggestions?
[17:43] <edbian> jackalista: Turn that off on the router temporarliy (so you don't need a password) then try to connect
[17:43] <mdgeorge1> google wasn't too helpful
[17:44] <glaksmono> Demonen: how do you do that?
[17:44] <jackalista> edbian: sh*t, I don't know how to do that...
[17:44] <luite> Demonen: macbooks support in ubuntu doesn't seem terribly good anyway, some components aren't supported at all (including wifi)
[17:44] <Demonen> luite: eeew.  Don't go there, then.
[17:44] <wols_> luite: I doubt that
[17:44] <Demonen> glaksmono: How do I do what?
[17:45] <edbian> jackalista: get on a machine that is connected to the router, put 192.168.1.1 in the address bar of a web browser, mess around with the settings until no password is required
[17:45] <luite> wols_: well there's ndiswrapper that might work
[17:45] <jackalista> edbian: is there a way to solvef it without turning off passwd on wireless access point?
[17:45] <mattalexx> glebihan, In 11.04, when I run "dpkg -s gnome" I get "Package gnome is not installed and no indfo is available"
[17:45] <craigsaboe> luite: wifi does work, as do most components - but support isn't nearly as good as in, say, Lenovos or possibly models from linux laptop vendors
[17:45] <wols_> luite: you are wrong. wifi does work
[17:46] <craigsaboe> luite: is there an older macbook model you're referring to, or do you mean even the latest models?
[17:46] <glebihan> mattalexx, that's because the package is not installed (btw you may be using gnome without that package being installed as it is a meta-package)
[17:46] <dli> mattalexx, sudo dpkg -l "gnome*"
[17:46] <luite> wols_: hmm, I mean the latest model, which has a broadcom 4331
[17:46] <jackalista> edbian: I have an open BSD box as a gateway, it is not a wireless router, it's an access point...
[17:46] <glebihan> mattalexx, but what is your issue exactly ?
[17:47] <jackalista> edbian: my local address space is 10.*.*.*
[17:47] <luite> craigsaboe: oh latest model, I'm trying to find out which laptop I should buy :)
[17:47] <snax> edbi
[17:47] <luite> wols_: I've seen some recent 4331-related commits in the broadcom driver, but it seems to be unfinished
[17:47] <snax> how can I toggle from window to window with in the same workspace?  Where do I set that keystroke?
[17:48] <OY1R> snax, alt-tab
[17:48] <mattalexx> glebihan, I'm trying to write a block of gconftool commands into a bash script, but I want it to be conditional on if gnome is installed.
[17:48] <craigsaboe> luite: I'm on a 2008 model MBP - but I see where you are saying wifi doesn't work in the latest models
[17:48] <dury> I got only the desktop wallpaper... can't run nothing :(
[17:48] <luite> craigsaboe: yeah, there's also no driver for the thunderbolt port
[17:49] <MoooookiE> Hello, I changed the default ubuntu mysql config. But now if i want to start mysql with "service mysql start" i just geht this errors: http://privatepaste.com/4d276bd1a3 here is my config: http://privatepaste.com/ba2bdd68f6
[17:49] <[THC]AcidRain> i have a serious issue
[17:49] <jackalista> wols_: u following this thread?  can u help?  edbian has left... I don't know how to turn off password on my access point, not sure I have the manuals anymore, it's several years old
[17:49] <[THC]AcidRain> compeltely messing up my day everyday
[17:49] <craigsaboe> luite: Hadn't heard of the regression, just saw it in the docs for the 8,1 to 8,3
[17:49] <MoooookiE> It would be nice if someone could help me
[17:49] <luite> craigsaboe: I hope that the port still works as a displayport :)
[17:49] <[THC]AcidRain> MoooookiE: ill help u if you help me :)
[17:50] <MoooookiE> [THC]AcidRain: whats your problem?
[17:50] <craigsaboe> luite: that's the biggest pain in the ass for me. I can't connect any of my monitors at the moment because I don't have an adapter
[17:50] <glebihan> mattalexx, I think you base your test on whether the "gnome-session" package is installed
[17:50] <wols_> jackalista: so what error do you get when trying to enter the wpa password?
[17:50] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i assign a ip address to a client on a bridge behind a router which is
[17:50] <glebihan> mattalexx, you *could* base
[17:50] <craigsaboe> luite: to be honest, if I were you and didn't have any plans to do iOS development, I'd look at either Thinkpads or buying from a vendor like System76
[17:50] <[THC]AcidRain> cause anytime my box loses connection... another box takes its place in the ip table
[17:50] <[THC]AcidRain> horrible way to live i tell you
[17:51] <chenthu> broadcom!
[17:51] <[THC]AcidRain> it changes from 192.168.1.105 to 106 and back
[17:51] <OY1R> [THC]AcidRain, set static ip's.
[17:51] <chenthu> how to ask something to the bot here?
[17:51] <mattalexx> glebihan, Ah, cool.
[17:51] <mattalexx> Thanks
[17:51] <[THC]AcidRain> but where?
[17:51] <jackalista> wols_: thx, it tries to connect for a few minutes and then the little dialog pops up that says that I am not connected.  is there a way to get a more verbose error msg?
[17:51] <[THC]AcidRain> my bridge doesnt have the option for it
[17:51] <glebihan> mattalexx, you're welcome
[17:51] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: then configure the dhcp server to reserve the address
[17:51] <chenthu> for example i need to know abt broadcom drivers... how to ask the bot
[17:51] <MoooookiE> [THC]AcidRain: /etc/networking/interfaces
[17:51] <craigsaboe> luite: I love OS X Lion, it's great and great-looking, but FOSS support in OS X can be a real PITA (i.e. getting some libraries to work, etc.)
[17:51] <wols_> jackalista: I don't use or like network-manager so I don't know
[17:52] <snax> OY1R: nope.
[17:52] <luite> craigsaboe: hmm, I've already had two thinkpads recently, both died because of a gpu problem (both problems were well-known, only fix is to replace the mainboard, and lenovo support wanted me to pay for it...)
[17:52] <chenthu> wols_: i installed ubuntu and got rid of the display problem... thank you
[17:52] <wols_> chenthu: /msg ubottu <topic>
[17:52] <MoooookiE> [THC]AcidRain: or if you use the network manager you can do it in the gui
[17:52] <[THC]AcidRain> id rather do it manually
[17:52] <bencahill> hey guys, is there a program that can search-as-you-type inside files?
[17:52] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont trust gui
[17:52] <chenthu> wols_: ok thank you
[17:52] <wols_> chenthu: and generally it works the same as it did in debian. it's the same linux after all
[17:52] <jackalista> wols_: what is network manager?  you mean the gui controls on the menu bar at the top oif the screen?
[17:52] <[THC]AcidRain> now that im looking at this file you directed me to. any good google reference to get started?
[17:52] <OY1R> [THC]AcidRain, right click on the network icon up at the clock > edit connection > chose connection > IPv4
[17:52] <craigsaboe> luite: Really? I've heard mostly good things about them... any competing vendors you've had good experience with? Dell, HP, whatever?
[17:53] <wols_> jackalista: no. the software that manages network connections in ubuntu by default.
[17:53] <chenthu> wols_: yeah it is... :) so the same nvidia and broadcom driver that worked in debian too works here?
[17:53] <OY1R> [THC]AcidRain, http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-assign-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-linux/
[17:53] <[THC]AcidRain> the ipv4 tab is blank
[17:53] <wols_> luite: these problems were nvidia's fault and ALL vendors had that problem. no exception
[17:54] <wols_> chenthu: yes
[17:54] <OY1R> [THC]AcidRain, method to manual
[17:54] <chenthu> wols_: ok thank you
[17:54] <dury> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html  What's Meta?
[17:54] <OY1R> have a look at that link it's got some images also
[17:54] <jackalista> wols_: so... you don't know what's wrong?  network manager is what's failing?
[17:55] <luite> wols_: yes I know (at least for the second thinkpad that died, the first one had a known problem specific to that model), but many other vendors at least replace the motherboard for free, even if the laptop is out of warranty
[17:55] <lonewulf`> I'd like to give a big shoutout to #ubuntu, for answering some of the noobiest questions they have prolly ever seen...didnt boot into xp at all yesterday!!!
[17:55] <jackalista> wols_: you were talking about firmware, do u think that is a problem or not?
[17:55] <lonewulf`> :))
[17:55] <wols_> jackalista: I asked you things, you never answered. so how would I know? I can't see onto your screen
[17:56] <wols_> luite: lenovo did that up to last february or so, but not anymore
[17:56] <[THC]AcidRain> where do i get the gateway address?
[17:56] <jackalista> wols_: sorry, what didn't I answer?  I am not expert at this (obviously)
[17:56] <luite> wols_: yes I found out, just a few months after my warranty expired of course
[17:56] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: it's the IP of your router
[17:56] <OY1R> [THC]AcidRain, ifconfig will show you your current gateway address
[17:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i did ifconfig
[17:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont see a gateway...
[17:57] <craigsaboe> luite:  You might be able to get a refurbished Macbook Pro from Apple that's a 2008 model - maybe  a little less horsepower but it will fully function with Ubuntu and you'll save a little money too.
[17:57] <Moses> dus anyone no how to hak ipod touch games for the ipod
[17:57] <[THC]AcidRain> i mean im just sayin, i know my routers ip. its just not listed on here
[17:57] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: cause it doesn't. route print does for example
[17:57] <wols_> Moses: stop it already and go away
[17:58] <[THC]AcidRain> ok and what about the dns servers field?
[17:58] <Moses> plxz
[17:58] <Moses> send me a link
[17:58] <glebihan> Moses, wrong place, wrong question
[17:58] <OY1R> Moses, try #apple
[17:58] <xangua> Moses: google
[17:58] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: nslookup google.com  tells you your current one. your router again usually
[17:58] <wols_> !ops can you please make Moses stop doing hacking questions for off topic products?
[17:58] <[THC]AcidRain> ok lets see if it worked
[17:59] <luite> craigsaboe: hmm, that might be a good idea, I'll look around for that (but I think that usually the prices are too high for the older hardware). I can probably live with OS X for a few months, but I'd like to be able to run ubuntu in the end :)
[17:59] <[THC]AcidRain> it worked. thx. im assigned to 105, hopefully permanently
[17:59] <xangua> wols_: you might also stop that 'go away' attidude ;)
[18:00] <[THC]AcidRain> now how would i assign my android to the network like this. cause i have servers that run on it as well
[18:00] <[THC]AcidRain> :)
[18:00] <craigsaboe> luite: Virtualization's always an option too... get at LEAST 4GB of RAM and run VirtualBox or something else, and you can run Ubuntu just fine
[18:00] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: it will soon blow up in your face. you didn't tell the DHCP server not to hand out .105 on its own. so sooner or later it will hand out this IP and then your whole network breaks. have fun
[18:00] <DC`> Hi, I've a question. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with a USB webcam that is being mapped to the wrong kernel module. Anyone know how to configure this mapping between usb devices and which kernel module is automatically loaded?
[18:00] <craigsaboe> luite: That'll work with the new models, until the broadcom drivers get sorted out (and I'm sure they will be soon)
[18:00] <[THC]AcidRain> wols_: .... lol.
[18:00] <wols_> xangua: for people who are clearly not interested about ubuntu and have been told several times that they are in the wrong place by ops too, no I don't stop. good day
[18:00] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i tell dhcp not to hand it out on its own?
[18:00] <luite> craigsaboe: yeah all macbook pro's have at least 4GB in the base config anyway :)
[18:01] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: configure your DHCP server properly
[18:01] <[THC]AcidRain> u word things so brutally ^_- sheesh
[18:01] <jackalista> hi, I have this wireless adapter which can see my network but can't connect, can anyone helkp me make it work?  NIC: Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205
[18:01] <bencahill> hey guys, is there a program that can search-as-you-type inside files?
[18:01] <csdserver> emacs?
[18:02] <jackalista> bencahill: I think gedit has that mode too (search as you type)
[18:02] <luite> craigsaboe: yeah they're already working on the bcm wireless driver, so that should be ok, I'm more worried about thunderbolt
[18:03] <jackalista> wols_: you have no idea what to do to make this Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 connect?  didn't you mention firmware?  or would I not be able to see my network at all if that was the problem?
[18:03] <[THC]AcidRain> wols_: i think i did it correctly
[18:03] <[THC]AcidRain> text...
[18:03] <craigsaboe> luite: regarding thunderbold - how patient are you? :) When the help docs say "needs docs" you might be in for a wait.
[18:04] <craigsaboe> luite: thunderbolt, not thunderbold
[18:04] <wols_> jackalista: firmware is already installed and working. and I dunno about network-manager since I use /etc/network/interfaces directly
[18:04] <dury> hi there :)
[18:05] <dury> someone kick me off
[18:05] <luite> craigsaboe: hehe I don't really need thunderbolt for storage, but I'd like to see some confirmation that the port can still be used a a simple displayport connector for external monitors :)
[18:05] <MichaelDeaton> Hello! Could someone possibly help me convert a batch file for windows to .sh?
[18:05] <dury> never mind
[18:05] <bencahill> jackalista: I mean for searching a dir of files
[18:06] <dury> I should save my main files in natty and install it again with live CD
[18:06] <craigsaboe> luite: The port's backwards-compatible, right? Shouldn't it operate like a regular displayport then even if the driver doesn't
[18:06] <glebihan> bencahill, I don't think such a tool exists. It would require a huge CPU/disk usage
[18:06] <csdserver> is nautilus buggy when dealing with network mounting?  while on csdserver, I click on 'csdclient' the directory that shows up is all browseable 'csdserver' shares.  none of my ip addresses have changed (just checked)
[18:06] <craigsaboe> luite: Docs say you need to update your kernel but you can do an external monitor.
[18:07] <luite> craigsaboe: yeah I found a blog post about that, looks good
[18:07] <craigsaboe> luite: kernel 2.6.39-0 or higher
[18:07] <daedaluz> hey what's the package name for official Sun Java JRE?! can't find it
[18:07] <craigsaboe> luite: Think you're going to go MBP then?
[18:07] <FFGY3> hello
[18:08] <FFGY3> i'm here to take over the channel and ban everyone
[18:08] <luite> craigsaboe: not sure yet, it's still more expensive than the other options :)
[18:08] <Myrtti> daedaluz: it is in the partner repo
[18:08] <glebihan> daedaluz, sun-java6-jre
[18:08] <luite> craigsaboe: but it looks better ;)
[18:08] <iridium> FFGY3, go go go go
[18:08] <craigsaboe> luite: yes, yes it is. What's your main use? Just docs, web browsing, or are you doing any programming or media stuff?
[18:08] <luite> mostly haskell programming
[18:09] <rypervenche> OpenJDK ftw^^
[18:09] <daedaluz> Myrtti: thanks, I didn't have it enabled. can't do banking without official Java...
[18:09] <craigsaboe> luite: have you checked out Haskell support in OS X?
[18:10] <luite> craigsaboe: yeah, it's ok, but linux support is better
[18:10] <thela> Hello!
[18:10] <craigsaboe> luite: if it works, OS X is a great system, it's just whether MacPorts/Fink have what you need
[18:10] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:10] <glebihan> !ask | thela
[18:10] <craigsaboe> luite: Yeah, that seems to be the situation
[18:10] <Guest76644> hello
[18:10] <MichaelDeaton> Can someone help me with some terminal commands?
[18:10] <[THC]AcidRain> omg
[18:10] <[THC]AcidRain> the whole network crashed
[18:10] <thela> I have a problem with unity, compiz, desktop wall
[18:10] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: so the dhcp server gave out .105 on its own, yes?
[18:10] <thela> if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:10] <[THC]AcidRain> wols_: yeah :(
[18:10] <craigsaboe> luite: I boot back and forth between OS X and Ubuntu a lot
[18:11] <glaksmono> how do you grep an occurence of the result of tail of string "BLA" and "FOO"?
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i block it from doing that?
[18:11] <glebihan> MichaelDeaton, please be more precise on what help you need ?
[18:11] <craigsaboe> luite: Some stuff just works better in Ubuntu
[18:11] <glaksmono> grep "BLA" | grep "FOO" is wrong it hink
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> and this is pretty amazing that a box can request a certain ip on a network. never knew that :)
[18:11] <wols_> [THC]AcidRain: either by configuring your DHCP server properly or by selecting an IP for your static setup that won't get handed out by the DHCP server
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> i feel a hack coming on for people who havent properly setup dhcp
[18:12] <thela> Hello
[18:12] <zmj|Biggums> ikonia: can you please stop spamming other channels?
[18:12] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:12] <wols_> zmj|Biggums: it is not ikonia but someone who impersonates him. nothing ikonia can do
[18:12] <wols_> !ask | thela
[18:12] <h00k> zmj|Biggums: er, it isn't the same person.
[18:12] <zmj|Biggums> wols_: I figured as much
[18:12] <luite> craigsaboe: most haskell devs seems to run linux, so it usually the best platform. 64 bit support is still experimental on OS X for example, and fink/macports always seem a bit messy to me, compared to the ubuntu package manager
[18:12] <oldtopman> Alright
[18:12] <wols_> zmj|Biggums: then don't complain to the wrong people
[18:12] <thela> I have a problem with unity, compiz, desktop wall
[18:13] <thela> if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:13] <MichaelDeaton> I need help converting an old .batch file I created for windows to a .sh command that'll work in ubuntu. This is the .batch http://paste.ubuntu.com/658781/
[18:13] <oldtopman> Which one of you is responsible for that stupid bot in #debian?
[18:13] <daedaluz> should I uninstall openjdk? opensuse marks it to be removed automatically after selecting sun-jre but ubuntu doesn't
[18:13] <h00k> oldtopman: nobody here. there isn't anything we can do.
[18:13] <luite> craigsaboe: can you boot your existing OS X install in vbox inside ubuntu?
[18:13] <craigsaboe> luite: Exactly... if you have to compile you can run into issues - even if someone's figured it out, doing an apt-get for something is easier than looking around in MacPorts and Fink for it and deciding which to use.
[18:13] <tensorpudding> oldtopman: that bot is a spammer, it has no affiliation with this channel
[18:13] <rypervenche> MichaelDeaton: Lol, I'm playing MC right now.
[18:13] <[THC]AcidRain> oldtopman: you just assume its #ubuntu who invades your channel?
[18:13] <[THC]AcidRain> that is kinda messed up
[18:13] <oCean> enough, let's move on
[18:13] <deed02392> what is its purpose then tensorpudding?
[18:13] <tensorpudding> oldtopman: it seems to be a smear campaign against ikonia, an op in this channel
[18:14] <wols_> oldtopman: no one. but you are too dense to know what a troll is and how they work
[18:14] <jjgalvez__> are there any fixes or workarounds to the unresponsiveness of the systray once the white list is set to all?
[18:14] <oldtopman> [THC]AcidRain: No. I assume that someone in this channel has done it.
[18:14] <MidnighToker> ikonia: what the heck are you doing flooding in other channels?
[18:14] <mhall119> ikonia: don't spam other channels
[18:14] <Myrtti> please don't feed the trolls
[18:14] <wols_> oldtopman: you are mistaken (and a fool besides)
[18:14] <oldtopman> wols_: Fine.
[18:14] <craigsaboe> luite: I looked around to see if I could do that on a Windows/Linux dual-boot, but it was highly discouraged, and maybe impossible
[18:14] <oldtopman> I'll whois everyone myself
[18:14] <thela> ikonia: do not spam other channels
[18:14] <[THC]AcidRain> oldtopman: i will take credit
[18:14] <tensorpudding> thela, MidnighToker, mhall119: that wasn't ikonia, but a user impersonating him
[18:15] <[THC]AcidRain> its my bot :D
[18:15] <craigsaboe> luite: I doubt you could do it, but I wouldn't say it's completely impossible.
[18:15] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:15] <MidnighToker> tensorpudding: o_0?
[18:15] <oldtopman> [THC]AcidRain: Wrong IP
[18:15] <mhall119> tensorpudding: ah, thanks
[18:15] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:15] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: oldtopman drop that discussion please, it has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[18:15] <tensorpudding> MidnighToker: it's a spambot, that took an unregistered name ikonia<number>, and started spamming channels
[18:15] <Vustom> Can someone help me? I'm using Ubuntu 10.4 and when I go to enable desktop Visual Effects it's grayed out and I can't select Extra.
[18:15] <tensorpudding> MidnighToker: they spammed this channel earlier, amusingly enough
[18:16] <Vustom> I'm using Nvidia GT 240.
[18:16] <MidnighToker> ah, fair enough
[18:16] <[THC]AcidRain> yes sir
[18:16] <thela> hi people
[18:16] <Myrtti> thela: you need to be more precise with your pleas for help, just asking for help doesn't really cut it.
[18:16] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:16] <[THC]AcidRain> its dropped like i was off my network
[18:16] <ewj> I'm working on upgrading a server running 8.04 to new Apache/OpenSSH/OpenSSL versions for security reasons, but it looks like the packages it's pulling down are older - is my best bet to do a full Ubuntu upgrade, or is it possible to manually get those packages installed somehow?
[18:16] <thela> if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:16] <MichaelDeaton> Is there a terminal command to check the month on the calender?
[18:16] <MidnighToker> ikonia: sorry about the case of mistaken identity :)
[18:16] <thela> Myrtti: if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:16] <Nubi1Kenobi> <----First time using Ubunto, never used it before......got multi questions...anyone help with the trainingwheels?
[18:16] <thela> Myrtti: if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:16] <luite> craigsaboe: hm ok. it would be useful for me since I sometimes need to run some Adobe programs that don't run on Ubuntu (Acrobat X Pro for example). I could also run a Windows VM for that, but I don't have an extra windows license at the moment :)
[18:16] <Myrtti> thela: please don't repeat your question so often, have some patience
[18:16] <thela> Can you help me ?
[18:17] <h00k> Nubi1Kenobi: you may want to consider trying #ubuntu-beginners
[18:17] <Nubi1Kenobi> 10-4
[18:17] <csdserver> what in the world is going on here... http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/screenshot2aj.png/
[18:17] <Nubi1Kenobi> ikonia should have said that last nigh - LOL
[18:17] <h00k> !manual | Nubi1Kenobi this may help as well
[18:18] <craigsaboe> luite: again, exactly my situation... I really like Inkscape, and Gimp is useful, but those proprietary programs suck because there's no real equivalent.  You either have to have OS X or Windows in a dual-boot, or get a Windows license and create a VM
[18:18] <Nubi1Kenobi> THNX!
[18:18] <Vustom> Can someone help me? I'm using Ubuntu 10.4 and when I go to enable desktop Visual Effects it's grayed out and I can't select Extra.
[18:18] <wols_> !de | thela
[18:18] <wols_> thela: your question doesn't make sense. I suggest you ask a channel which unedrstands your first language
[18:19] <MichaelDeaton> Is there a help channel just for terminal commands/shell scripts?
[18:19] <glebihan> MichaelDeaton, try #bash
[18:20] <h00k> MichaelDeaton: If you're talking bash scripting, there is #bash
[18:20] <MichaelDeaton> Not bash.
[18:20] <thela> Myrtti: if i have got a window, it maximises where it is most
[18:20] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: what is your actual problem and what steps have you actually tried to solve it and what hindrances did you encounter while doing so?
[18:20] <rypervenche> MichaelDeaton: You'll be doing it in bash
[18:20] <thela> if maximizes where it is 50 PERCENT %
[18:20] <craigsaboe> luite: but hey, you could probably get a pretty great non-Apple laptop and a copy of Windows 7 for the same price as the Mac, if you went that way.
[18:20] <MichaelDeaton> I'm trying to figure out how to convert windows cmds into ubuntu terminal commands.
[18:20] <thela> BUT IT SHOULD STAY ON 1
[18:21] <MichaelDeaton> Because they're different.. and I'm new to ubuntu.
[18:21] <h00k> MichaelDeaton: what exactly are you trying to do? What commands/equivalents are you looking for?
[18:21] <MichaelDeaton> I've already posted it once.
[18:22] <MichaelDeaton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/658781/
[18:22] <MichaelDeaton> That,
[18:22] <anonissimus> trying to make up my mind for my desktop OS, what advantages does ubuntu have on debian?
[18:22] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: yes, but your question was "please write my script for me". I won't do that but I am willing to help if I can when you encounter specific problems
[18:22] <wols_> anonissimus: it strives to be a lot more userfriendly
[18:22] <MichaelDeaton> it's  windows commands that checks the month and if the month equals 1-12 then depending on the month is places a texture pack in a game directory.
[18:23] <MichaelDeaton> I dunno the commands that check the month and such in ubuntu
[18:23] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: the date utility will do things like that
[18:23] <MichaelDeaton> or how to copy files to a directory
[18:23] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: man date
[18:23] <MichaelDeaton> Date utility?
[18:23] <tensorpudding> and cp works exactly like copy as you use it
[18:23] <h00k> MichaelDeaton: you could start by learning cron, also
[18:23] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: man cp
[18:23] <h00k> !cron | MichaelDeaton
[18:24] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: fyi, I dunno where you live but here ALL months are between 1 and 12. always. no exception
[18:24] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: the formatting is different, and variables in the shell look different
[18:24] <Tetsuo55> my computer gets really hot, the system monitor doesnt seem to be showing a high cpu usage, any ideas how i can fix this? (when i run windows the computer stays cool)
[18:24] <MichaelDeaton> This is what I was wondering.
[18:24] <wols_> Tetsuo55: laptop?
[18:24] <Tetsuo55> wols_: yes
[18:25] <niez> hi, I can't install ssh in ubuntu 10.04
[18:25] <wols_> Tetsuo55: check at what speeds it runs (if speedstep works), run powertop, etc
[18:25] <h00k> niez: ssh is installed by default
[18:25] <sudokill> isnt it there by default?
[18:25] <wols_> Tetsuo55: do you have a hybrid video setup?
[18:25] <Tetsuo55> wols_: dell e6400
[18:25] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: are you changing the file extension there?
[18:25] <philyll> How do I get my local ip address?
[18:25] <MichaelDeaton> yeah
[18:25] <Tetsuo55> wols_: no hybrid video, powertop can be run from terminal?
[18:25] <sudokill> philyll, ifconfig
[18:25] <niez> h00k, openssh-server
[18:25] <wols_> philyll: ifconfig. you can have more than one IP address
[18:25] <MichaelDeaton> the .exes are now .jars
[18:26] <wols_> Tetsuo55: yes
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> and the directorys are different
[18:26] <tensorpudding> that's...really weird
[18:26] <h00k> niez: What errors is it giving when you're trying to install that?
[18:26] <tensorpudding> why did you rename an .exe a .jar?
[18:26] <wols_> Tetsuo55: you want your cpu to be mainly in C3-C6 states btw to save power
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> because in windows it's a .exe
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> in ubuntu it's a .jar
[18:26] <tensorpudding> oh
[18:26] <tensorpudding> well
[18:26] <Myrtti> MichaelDeaton: er, no
[18:26] <zul_> Who can help me in configuring a git repository?
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> It's Moinecraft.
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> Minecraft
[18:26] <venik212> How can I force my computer to load the NVIDIA driver that is needed for UNITY?
[18:26] <tensorpudding> you can't run it that way
[18:26] <Tetsuo55> wols_: installing powertop
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> It works.
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton> Been doing it since last april
[18:27] <tensorpudding> you need to do 'java -r minecraft.jar'
[18:27] <philyll> How do I know which one of these is my "local" ip?
[18:27] <wols_> !nvidia > venik212
[18:27] <tensorpudding> i think
[18:27] <sudokill> venik212, use the gui driver switcher
[18:27] <tensorpudding> not sure about the -r
[18:27] <MichaelDeaton> I just open the .exe with java.
[18:27] <zul_> anybody knows git?
[18:27] <MichaelDeaton> changed the file extension to .jar
[18:27] <MichaelDeaton> Anyways.
[18:27] <h00k> !git | zul_
[18:27] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: yes, and in ubuntu you need to tell it to open that jar in java
[18:27] <niez> h00k, openssh-server: Wymaga: openssh-client (= 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu3)) ale 1:5.3p13ubuntu7 ma zostać zainstalowany (it's in polish)
[18:27] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: since the .jar isn't executable
[18:28] <MichaelDeaton> It automatically opens it in java when I double click it.
[18:28] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: i imagine that minecraft has a shell script for starting itself though
[18:28] <wols_> niez: LANG=C <apt command>  so we can see it in english
[18:28] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: that's because the file manager knows to open .jar files in java
[18:28] <h00k> zul_: this isn't specifically an Ubuntu question, check git's documentation, you may find github useful as well
[18:28] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: the shell does not
[18:28] <NielsMkn> Hey guys
[18:28] <zul_> ok hook
[18:28] <zul_> I go there
[18:28] <MichaelDeaton> Well this isn't getting me any closer to converting my texture pack changer to a .sh command for linux users to enjoy. :C
[18:29] <niez> h00k, openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu3)) but 1:5.3p13ubuntu7 is to be installed
[18:29] <NielsMkn> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/problem-while-installing-the-ubuntu-10-10-in-my-hp-laptop-881458/
[18:29] <NielsMkn> I have the same problem as this guy
[18:29] <NielsMkn> Any solutions?
[18:30] <\DSAFEW\> NielsMkn, try an alternate installation method besides wubi?
[18:30] <wols_> NielsMkn: we don't support windows utilities
[18:30] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: anyway, date +%m will output a number that is the day of the month
[18:30] <Tetsuo55> wols_: C6 53%, C2 18.6%, C0 23%
[18:30] <Tetsuo55> wols_: npviewer seems to be the main wakeup reason
[18:31] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: sh has if/then/else statements, but they look different than the batchfile one
[18:31] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: you'll need to change the paths, of course
[18:31] <MichaelDeaton> Of course I can change the paths.
[18:31] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: minecraft in ubuntu keeps its files in another place, you'll have to find out where
[18:31] <NielsMkn> erm so where do I get help for wubi?
[18:31] <MichaelDeaton> I just needed to know how to check the month and the if else if
[18:31] <wols_> Tetsuo55: that's flash I think
[18:32] <wols_> MichaelDeaton: have you read man date? that tells you
[18:32] <sudokill> NielsMkn, whats the problem
[18:32] <NielsMkn> well I can't install ubuntu 11.04 using wubi
[18:32] <Tetsuo55> wols_: yeah, i dont get other C states than those 3
[18:32] <zul_> I tried to write into the git channel but I can't.. I don't know why
[18:32] <MichaelDeaton> Minecraft is kept in "/home/michael/.minecraft" how do I make it universal? like for any user?
[18:32] <NielsMkn> it gives an error which is the same as the one in the link I provided
[18:32] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: using $HOME
[18:32] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: specifically, $HOME/.minecraft
[18:33] <n2i> Hi all!
[18:33] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: $HOME is set to the home directory of the user running the script
[18:33] <zul_> I just need to install a very simple  git repository
[18:33] <zul_> but I don't know how
[18:33] <MichaelDeaton> Ohh sweet.
[18:33] <MichaelDeaton> So is this command right?
[18:33] <MichaelDeaton> del "$HOME/.minecraft/texturepacks/ABraveNewWorld.zip"
[18:34] <niez> where is openssh-server (=1:5.3p1-3ubntu7) ?
[18:34] <oCean> !register | zul_
[18:34] <sudokill> MichaelDeaton, rm
[18:34] <MichaelDeaton> rm?
[18:34] <sudokill> del? to delete?
[18:34] <masen> zul_: a git repo server? or just an unmanaged repo
[18:34] <MichaelDeaton> Yeah?
[18:34] <n2i> I wanna disable gnome-panel completely, but what what I have to do?
[18:34] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: rm is like del, for the most part
[18:34] <wols_> niez: LANG=C apt-cache policy openssh-server
[18:35] <zul_> masen I've a my server and me and my fired need to collaborate in a project
[18:35] <MichaelDeaton> sooo rm "$HOME/.minecraft/texturepacks/ABraveNewWorld.zip"
[18:35] <sudokill> MichaelDeaton, sound right..
[18:35] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: yes
[18:36] <MichaelDeaton> Now what about this command?
[18:36] <MichaelDeaton> if %month%==01 (copy "abnw\abnw_wints.pack" "%appdata%\.minecraft\texturepacks\ABraveNewWorld.zip") else if
[18:36] <masen> zul_: if its just one project and just 2 users, i'd just make a git repository on the server, create a local user for your friend and clone and push to it using ssh
[18:36] <jackalista> can anyone help me get my Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 wireless NIC to connect to my wireless LAN?  I can see the network but not connect.  I am running 11.04 on a dell latitude E6420.
[18:36] <n2i> I have using gconf-editor to edit /desktop/gnome/session/required-componets/panel to but it does not effect at all!
[18:37] <zul_> masen I know but I need some help to do it
[18:37] <n2i> Someone can help me, please?
[18:37] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: just a moment
[18:37] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: i've written an skeleton of your shell script
[18:38] <Tetsuo55> Is it possible to use kernel 3.1 on 11.04?  i desperately need upstream videocard and wlan fixes
[18:38] <MichaelDeaton> Okay.
[18:38] <sudokill> Tetsuo55, 3.1?
[18:38] <wols_> Tetsuo55: there is no 3.1
[18:38] <bigroyalneedshel> can i get help here
[18:38] <h00k> !ask | bigroyalneedshel
[18:38] <wols_> Tetsuo55: you can compile your own kernel but that will be totally unsupported and might break things. no one knows
[18:39] <Tetsuo55> the patches after 3.0 was released
[18:39] <Tetsuo55> wols_: ahh thats too bad
[18:39] <sudokill> Tetsuo55, your better of waiting
[18:39] <wols_> Tetsuo55: install kernel-package and read up on it /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/
[18:39] <Tetsuo55> you might have noticed how often i disconnect, thats a kernel regression :(
[18:40] <sudokill> Tetsuo55, what is it, wireless?
[18:40] <Tetsuo55> yeah
[18:40] <\DSAFEW\> Tetsuo55, which kernel now?
[18:40] <Tetsuo55> its confirmed and stuff, but not yet fixed
[18:40] <sudokill> wireless is just plain unreliable
[18:40] <Tetsuo55> in ubuntu at least
[18:40] <Tetsuo55> nah, in windows its perfect
[18:40] <wols_> Tetsuo55: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[18:40] <Tetsuo55> i never disconnect, but under ubuntu im lucky if i stay online for 30 minutesd
[18:40] <wols_> Tetsuo55: there you can download and compile the newest available wireless drivers for your older kernel
[18:40] <\DSAFEW\> Tetsuo55, I'm aware of some wifi regressions, most of which have been fixed
[18:40] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658796/
[18:40] <bigkingneedshelp> helloi i need help woth comopiz
[18:41] <sudokill> bigkingneedshelp, what about it
[18:41] <wols_> Tetsuo55: again, unsupported of course but less chances of breaking anything else in your kernel
[18:41] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: the part with the ellipsis should be removed, and replaced with elif statements for the other months
[18:41] <bigkingneedshelp> well the windows maximises where they are most
[18:41] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: oh whoops, i used done instead of fi
[18:41] <bigkingneedshelp> but i want to stay on one workspace
[18:41] <Tetsuo55> \DSAFEW\:  2.6.38-11-generic
[18:41] <Tetsuo55> wols_: reading
[18:41] <wols_> oCean: he's funny, isn't he?
[18:42] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658797/
[18:42] <niez_> wols_, http://nopaste.info/e0926df916.html
[18:42] <\DSAFEW\> Tetsuo55, try 2.6.39~ whatever the most recent is
[18:42] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: this script assumes that you're inside the directory with abnw as a subdirectory, and minecraft is in the directory also
[18:42] <wols_> niez_: and what happens if you try to install it? (english output again please)
[18:42] <Tetsuo55> \DSAFEW\: yeah thats what i'd like to do, but ubuntu doesnt officially have that for 11.04
[18:43] <MichaelDeaton> Alright I see what you did there.
[18:43] <\DSAFEW\> Tetsuo55, there were some issues which cropped up in 2.6.37 and weren't fixed until 39
[18:43] <tensorpudding> MichaelDeaton: typo, that should be /usr/bin not /usrbin in the first line
[18:43] <niez_> wols_, http://nopaste.info/74a699f87a.html
[18:44] <Tetsuo55> \DSAFEW\: thing is my hardware is very dependent on ubuntu kernel patches, so i cannot use vanilla or anything like that
[18:44] <Tetsuo55> \DSAFEW\: going to try wols_'s link with the new drivers on old kernel
[18:45] <\DSAFEW\> Tetsuo55, yep, that's what I'd do
[18:45] <wols_> niez_: remove your openssh-client and install openssh-server again. and next time don't mix ubuntu versions
[18:46] <niez_> wols_, I have fresh installation of 10.04 LTS
[18:46] <CharlieSu> I just tried natty for the first time on AWS EC2 and noticed all of my volumes are now labled /dev/xvd.  What is up w/ that?
[18:46] <Tetsuo55> i wish there was an auto update for the drivers, i have daily update videocard drivers
[18:47] <Tetsuo55> but not for the wlan
[18:47] <citiskyline> Is there a way to use the Apple earphone microphone in 11.04?
[18:47] <MichaelDeaton> Thank you for the help. :))) I edited it, now have it running as it should. :)
[18:47] <n2i> Ok, I will come back later!
[18:48] <wols_> niez_: sorry, misread the version numbers. you are missing lucid-updates in your sources.list then. see http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/openssh-server
[18:48] <niez_> wols_, thanks. everything is now working, I've uninstalled openssh-client
[18:48] <mkanyicy> \q
[18:48] <mkanyicy> quit
[18:48] <wols_> niez_: which version of openssh-server do you have now? if you haven't the -ubuntu7 one you are probably vulnerable to security flaws in lucid
[18:48] <jackalista> Can anyone help with getting my dell latitude E6420's wireless NIC (Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205) to connect to my wlan?  I can see it but not connect... any help would be much appreciated
[18:49] <wols_> niez_: you need to add lucid-updates to your sources.list and install openssh-server from there
[18:49] <glaksmono> guys, when i do this "tail -f logFile | grep -ve "string one|string two", isn't it going to grep the lines that contains the first and 2nd string right?
[18:49] <niez_> wols_,  i have now 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu3
[18:49] <amanforindia> hey
[18:49] <wols_> niez_: which is from lucid, not from lucid-updates
[18:50] <amanforindia> how to setup a wireless network to share with other computers from ubuntu
[18:50] <Egbert5e9> how do i set xorg.conf up in a way that the mouse will be the most generic as possible
[18:51] <wols_> Egbert5e9: you don't use a xorg.conf at all
[18:51] <h00k> !inetsharing | amanforindia
[18:51] <Egbert5e9> wols_: please elaborate
[18:52] <wols_> Egbert5e9: by default there is no xorg.conf anymore. and everytime xorg determines new what hardware it has connected and chooses the proper drivers and settings
[18:52] <dli> glaksmono,  "tail -f logFile | grep -ve "string one.*string two|string two.*string one"
[18:52] <niez_> wols_, I see now, I've disabled lucid-updates, becouse it was labeled 'recommended', I've selected only lucid security
[18:52] <niez_> wols_, but ok, now it works
[18:52] <amanforindia> i did try setting up using nm-applet
[18:52] <wols_> niez_: the reason you had a problem was, ssh-client was from lucid-updates and you installed "lucid" ssh-server. the two didn't mix
[18:52] <Egbert5e9> wols_: current driver is faulty. something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/375905
[18:53] <amanforindia> but it keeps on trying to connect
[18:54] <Egbert5e9> mine's the LX7 model
[18:55] <Tetsuo55> ok i updated the drivers as instruction on that page, but the wireless connection quality is still horrible
[18:55] <wols_> Tetsuo55: are you actually using those drivers? e.g. updated your initramfs for example?
[18:56] <NielsMkn> so wubi doesn't work on dynamic disks :/
[18:56] <Tetsuo55> wols_: i had to unload all the old stuff and then modprobe the new driver
[18:56] <Egbert5e9> buttons get stuck
[18:56] <Egbert5e9> until i press the right mouse button
[18:56] <glaksmono> dli: that seems to be wrong :-/
[18:57] <Egbert5e9> it's not an hardware problem, no dirt of anything that's stuck
[18:57] <jorge___> I've just updated to the development branch (oneiric) and I can't get nvidia.ko to load, because nouveau.ko is always loaded instead, some thoughts? thank you.
[18:57] <sudokill> jorge___, blacklist?
[18:57] <wols_> !ubuntu+1 | jorge___
[18:58] <dli> glaksmono, oh, you have -v, you want string one and two, or want to exclude?
[18:58] <Pupeno> Hello.
[18:58] <jorge___> thanks wols_ ,  i'll note that for the next time
[18:58] <jorge___> sudokill, ok thank you, that will work, i'm trying now
[18:58] <Egbert5e9> is there a fallback generic mouse i can set?
[18:58] <Pupeno> In Ubuntu 11.04, how can I list all services that can be started, stopped and restarted in the command line, using the new start/stop/restart programs?
[18:59] <maco> Pupeno: ls /etc/init.d/  ?
[18:59] <Pupeno> maco: are you sure about it? I don't think the new start/stop/restart command use script in /etc/init.d
[18:59] <ldr> maco nearly right ls /etc/init/ i would suggest Pupeno
[18:59] <Tetsuo55> wols_: how i would describe my wifi problem is that the driver is very pessimistic over the signal quality, with the same signal strenght windows will be fine, but ubuntu will lose the connection, its very strange, also transaction speed is lower in all locations
[18:59] <sudokill> really?
[19:00] <maco> Pupeno: much of whats in /etc/init.d/ is symlinks to an upstart file. it reads the name of the file it was called as and finds the .conf for it in /etc/init/
[19:00] <Pupeno> ldr: that was it… thanks.
[19:00] <Pupeno> maco: I have files that are only in /etc/init/
[19:00] <glaksmono> dli: i want the string 1 to happen before string 2
[19:01] <glaksmono> dli: so basically, make sure that both string occurs
[19:01] <dli> glaksmono, grep 'string one.*string two'
[19:01] <ldr> Pupeno i am not sure what service --status-all actually shows but their seem to be most services too including if they are running
[19:02] <maco> Pupeno: hmm interesting. i do have 76 things in /etc/init/ but only 50 with      find /etc/init.d/ -type l
[19:03] <Tetsuo55> ill try rebooting
[19:03] <ldr> Pupeno because my service --status-all still shows the xencommon service which is uninstalled long ago and didnt have a corresponding file in /etc/init
[19:03] <stealthboy> hi i have a java problem for a update and be for all of you guys or girls ask i have tryed sun as well as openjdk minecraft does not run
[19:03] <Pupeno> ldr: service --status-all is handy, thanks.
[19:03] <ldr> Pupeno but not reliable it seems see above
[19:04] <Pupeno> ldr: it doesn't list some services that were *manually* installed and that I can restart.
[19:04] <ldr> Pupeno maybe it shows all service ever installed on the system, wasnt able to fiure it out myself
[19:04] <Pupeno> ldr: so, yeah, not reliable. That is, it's ignoring some files in /etc/init.
[19:04] <ldr> Pupeno lol and it shows my services which were manually installed and uninstalled strange
[19:05] <trism> Pupeno: initctl list; perhaps
[19:05] <ldr> maybe someone else could explain what service --status-all actually shows
[19:06] <stealthboy> hi i have a java problem for a update and be for all of you guys or girls ask i have tryed sun as well as openjdk minecraft does not run
[19:06] <NullCity> hey im back
[19:06] <Pupeno> trism: that seems to show the correct list.
[19:07] <NullCity> !av
[19:07] <NullCity> !Linux
[19:07] <Tetsuo55> even after a reboot its still pessimistic, how can i confirm the new driver is being used?
[19:07] <sudokill> NullCity, what are you looking for?
[19:08] <NullCity> a person i met earlier
[19:08] <sudokill> Tetsuo55, lspci -v
[19:08] <wols_> sudokill: the name of the driver hasn't changed so it won't show up like this
[19:08] <sudokill> ok
[19:09] <phalcore> yenn:~ $ crontab -e
[19:09] <phalcore>  crontab: no crontab for phalcore - using an empty one
[19:09] <phalcore>  crontab: installing new crontab
[19:09] <phalcore>  "/tmp/crontab.18493":1: bad day-of-month
[19:09] <phalcore>  crontab: errors in crontab file, can't install
[19:09] <phalcore>  Do you want to retry the same edit? no
[19:09] <FloodBot1> phalcore: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <stealthboy> hi i have a java problem for a update and be for all of you guys or girls ask i have tryed sun as well as openjdk minecraft does not run
[19:09] <wols_> stealthboy: state your actual problem someone can help with. this is gibberish
[19:09] <sudokill> stealthboy, no idea. do you use noscript or anything like that
[19:10] <stealthboy> no sudokill and wols minecraft loads then i login and then it goes black and no more stuff
[19:11] <sudokill> no idea :s
[19:11] <sudokill> using proper graphic driver?
[19:11] <stealthboy> yes
[19:11] <phalcore_> can anyone help me?
[19:11] <rigel> hi, i have this problem where every time i take my laptop off of ac power if its not 100% charged, it says "critically low, will hibernate" and then hibernates even if i press cancel
[19:11] <stealthboy> rigel it maybe that your battery is died on your laptop
[19:12] <rigel> no, it has power
[19:12] <ldr> Pupeno just for completeness service --status-all actually shows the /etc/init.d/ services its a simple script it seems, so dont use that
[19:12] <rigel> because it happens even if its at 99%
[19:12] <stealthboy> no is it old rigel
[19:12] <rigel> corresponding to an hour and a half or so
[19:12] <Pupeno> ldr: thanks for the info.
[19:12] <rigel> yeah, the battery is a bit old, and ubuntu always gives me crap for it
[19:13] <rigel> but it still can provide enough power to not freakin hibernate
[19:13] <stealthboy> rigel i dont know much about the os or batterys
[19:13] <rigel> are there battery statistics somewhere that i can nuke, like on android or something
[19:14] <sudokill> rigel, not sure of the command i think you add it to grub, disable acpi
[19:14] <sudokill> idk
[19:14] <sudokill> proba bad idea for laptop
[19:14] <rigel> right, i dont want to disable the auto shutdown
[19:15] <rigel> i just want it to not shutdown when it doesnt need to
[19:15] <NielsMkn> so ubuntu/wubi don't work with dynamic disks? :/
[19:15] <sudokill> is there nothing simple in the power options of ubuntu?
[19:15] <sudokill> Nielsen, what are you trying to do?
[19:15] <sudokill> NielsMkn,
[19:16] <hylian> i saw unity with weather options and a unity specific dock, but i cant seem to find it on google, can anyone lend me a ear, a nose, etc... :)
[19:16] <rigel> sudokill: nothing simple, no. i can change options and whatnot, but they dont seem to help
[19:16] <sudokill> rigel, :s i have no exp with laptops at all
[19:17] <Tetsuo55> looks my connection has stabalised a bit, it even hit 54mbs link speed now
[19:17] <bombshellz> Hello, has anyone when attempting to Shutdown the box, get's returned to the Login prompt?
[19:17] <Tetsuo55> i still have these dmesg lines over, should i report any of these as tickets? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/658820/
[19:17] <bombshellz> Instead the Box shuting down?
[19:17] <NielsMkn> sudokill I'm trying to use wubi to install ubuntu on my hp laptop
[19:18] <hylian> bombshellz, sorry, never had that problem before, but you can have that happen with window managers like fluxbox, are you using gnome or unity?
[19:18] <sudokill> Nielsen, have you though about dual boot?
[19:18] <sudokill> with 2 partitions
[19:18] <guntbert> bombshellz: that happened here some time ago, went away with some upgrade, I never got around to investigate the cause
[19:18] <n2i> What is ck-launch-session and what it does?
[19:18] <bombshellz> hylian: Unfortunately this been happening since Ubuntu 10.04 and continue to presist with 11.04?
[19:19] <sudokill> n2i, its for automount dirves etc afaik
[19:19] <NielsMkn> Well yeah but that is risky sudokill
[19:19] <bombshellz> I click on the power button expecting the system to shutdown but instead I'm returned to login prompt, the issue is erratic, meaning, it doesn't happen frequently
[19:19] <bombshellz> On occassion, it does shutdown ;)
[19:19] <n2i> sudokill: oh, thank you!
[19:19] <sudokill> Nielsen, its not at all. as long as you know how to partition
[19:19] <NielsMkn> since it is unable to detect partitions I made using windows disk managment
[19:20] <bombshellz> I have HP G62
[19:20] <bombshellz> laptop
[19:20] <sudokill> Nielsen, it should detect any partitons
[19:20] <sudokill> its windows that cant read ext not other way round
[19:20] <NielsMkn> It doesn't since my entire hard disk is dynamic disk not basic
[19:20] <n2i> And what command which I have to put into ~/.xinitrc if I wanna nautilus can mount partions when I'm using pekwm?
[19:20] <n2i> Using ck-launch-session, of course!
[19:21] <sudokill> n2i, you on uvuntu?
[19:21] <sudokill> ubuntu*
[19:21] <sudokill> n2i, usually its exec ck-launch-session
[19:21] <n2i> yes
[19:21] <sudokill> then whatever de sessoon
[19:22] <n2i> just simple like that?
[19:22] <marshall> how do I set systemwide environment variables?
[19:22] <sudokill> n2i, yes
[19:22] <jshmoe12> For some reason ubuntu 11.04 isn't recognizing my cd/dvd/burner/drive any help TIA
[19:22] <n2i> hihi
[19:22] <sudokill> you want pekwm as well as the other des?
[19:23] <bombshellz> guntbert: I was trying to Update Empathy to 3.0.2 using PPA:Gnome3 and I've hold off updating my box in event it starts pulling packages from that repository and fsck my installation... My question is? Can I disable that repository via Command Line Command or I have no choice but to edit /etc/source.list?
[19:23] <rcxking> im new here, how do i use irc?
[19:23] <sudokill> your using it
[19:23] <sudokill> lol
[19:23] <rcxking> haha
[19:23] <rcxking> what are the commands?
[19:23] <rcxking> like switching channels?
[19:23] <jshmoe12> is there a hardware channel for ubuntu ?
[19:23] <sudokill> prob offtopic
[19:23] <sudokill> rcxking, use /join #ubuntu
[19:23] <sudokill> and /part #ubuntu
[19:23] <rcxking> ooh thanks!
[19:24] <jshmoe12> rcxking what irc client are u using xchat?
[19:24] <rcxking> xchat
[19:24] <rcxking> yeah
[19:24] <n2i> sudokill: hmm. I wanna using pekwm without any gnome's component
[19:25] <sudokill> n2i, your better off using antoher distro
[19:25] <sudokill> ubuntu = unity
[19:25] <n2i> But I got some problem when start session with startx
[19:25] <jshmoe12> rcxking: list of xchat commands  ==> http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_help_commands
[19:25] <guntbert> bombshellz: as far as I know the files for ppas are in /etx/apt/sources.d/, so just edit that file (write # to the beginning of lines) and then run sudo apt-get update to refresh the database
[19:25] <rcxking> oh cool thanks man
[19:25] <sudokill> n2i, im not sure of  the pekwm command ill look
[19:25] <slinzex> how to rename all files like this pullups.xml.xml.xml.xml.xml in pullups1.xml ? please help
[19:26] <sudokill> n2i, exec pekwm
[19:26] <sudokill> lol
[19:26] <bombshellz> guntbert: So there isn't a command to disable the repository, alright thanks ;)
[19:26] <n2i> sudokill: Yes, I will come to arch as soon as possible
[19:26] <sudokill> i dont mean that
[19:26] <sudokill> just mean with ubuntu youll always have a load of stuff
[19:26] <sudokill> if your planning on a pure light wm
[19:26] <guntbert> bombshellz: not in the form sudo disable <ppaName>, no
[19:26] <hylian> i saw unity with weather options and a unity specific dock, but i cant seem to find it on google, can anyone lend me a ear, a nose, etc... :)
[19:27] <rcxking> what other channels are there to go on?
[19:27] <rigel> hylian: ive got a throat, if you need it.
[19:27] <sudokill> rcxking, #freenode
[19:27] <rigel> and a spleen.
[19:27] <n2i> sudokill: yes, I see.
[19:27] <gnutun> hey all; how can i get access to an upstart job's output?
[19:27] <rigel> but thats all i can spare at the moment, sorry
[19:27] <rcxking> #freenode
[19:27] <rcxking> oops
[19:27] <rcxking> ./join #freenode
[19:27] <FloodBot1> rcxking: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <sudokill>  /join #freenode
[19:27] <RA_drc> rcxking: /list
[19:28] <rcxking> oh
[19:28] <hylian> rigel, i saw a weather aplet for unity in a dock of some sort for unity, but heck if i can find it...
[19:28] <antihero> aplay -l does not find my soundcard
[19:28] <antihero> Though it worked fine the other day, and is visible on lsmod
[19:28] <antihero> I mean lspci
[19:28] <rigel> hylian: oh, sorry, i dont use unity
[19:28] <rigel> good luck!
[19:29] <hylian> rigel, well thanks anyways.
[19:29] <jshmoe12> Can anyone help me with finding out why my cd/dvd drive is not being recognized on 11.04?
[19:29] <bombshellz> guntbert: I'm foolling around with Ubuntu 11.04, I'm usually an OpenSuSE user, you can usually disable a repo via "zypper modifyrepo -d" to disable a repository ... I'm trying to get myself inform with apt commands.... I'm a total newb right now when dealling with Debain based Commands, since my preference is RPM ;)
[19:29] <sudokill> jshmoe12, does eject /dev/sr0 work?
[19:30] <jshmoe12> sudokill one sec
[19:30] <sudokill> bombshellz, preference?
[19:30] <guntbert> bombshellz: well you may want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[19:30] <sudokill> i thought rpm was bad?
[19:31] <oCean> slinzex: all your xml files have 5 times .xml?
[19:31] <slinzex> oCean, yes
[19:32] <slinzex> oCean, i've been trying to add "1" at the final, but, made this ...
[19:32] <slinzex> oCean, im so noob on scripting
[19:32] <bombshellz> sudokill: ?
[19:33] <slinzex> oCean, i've used this : for i in *.xml; do mv "$i" "${i/1.xml}".xml; done
[19:33] <jshmoe12> sudokill: i am actually using linux mint 11 but its based on ubuntu 11.04
[19:33] <jshmoe12> sudokill: anyhelp?
[19:33] <sudokill> jshmoe12, its ok same thing
[19:33] <sudokill> did eject work?
[19:34] <bombshellz> sudokill: I'm not going to debate about it... RPM is bad is subjective to personal preference ;)
[19:34] <kostodo> how can i permanently change my IP address settings through terminal?
[19:34] <oCean> slinzex: have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658835/
[19:34] <bombshellz> guntbert: Thanks for the reference link, I have it bookmark now
[19:34] <jdevel> /etc/network/interfaces
[19:34] <jdevel> kostodo, ^
[19:34] <jshmoe12> sudokill: eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/sr0'
[19:35] <genii-around> kostodo: man interfaces has examples of what kinds of things you can set there in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:35] <sudokill> not sure why...
[19:35] <sudokill> its only a cd drive
[19:35] <sudokill> sall of them should be detected..
[19:35] <slinzex> oCean, I see, thx, but I wanted also to add "1" at final of each file
[19:35] <jshmoe12> no its a cd/dvd/burner
[19:35] <kostodo> jdevel, thanks trying
[19:35] <guntbert> bombshellz: you're welcome :-) just remember after every change to the sources config you need to run sudo apt-get update   or   sudo aptitude update to refresh the local database
[19:35] <slinzex> oCean,`basename 1$file .xml.xml.xml.xml` will work?
[19:35] <sudokill> jshmoe12, same thing
[19:36] <jshmoe12> sudokill: its a cd/dvd/burner - but when i put a cd in it spins and the light comes on so i know its getting power
[19:36] <slinzex> oCean, or `basename $file1 .xml.xml.xml.xml`
[19:36] <jshmoe12> sudokill: in /dev there is no sr0
[19:36] <kostodo> jdevel, then how do I restart the interfaces so the settings are applied?
[19:36] <sudokill> jshmoe12, try eject /dev/cdrom
[19:36] <sudokill> jshmoe12, but i think theyre just links to each other
[19:37] <oCean> slinzex: no, not in there, hang on
[19:37] <jshmoe12> sudokill: eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom'
[19:38] <Misiex> anyone uses virtualization?
[19:38] <sudokill> jshmoe12, :s no idea. if its a plain ubuntu install it should easily be detected...
[19:38] <oCean> slinzex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/658836/
[19:39] <NullCity> Im Back! My iPhone IRC Client Isnt Good
[19:39] <jshmoe12> sudokill: its linuxmint 11 but like u said same thing
[19:39] <jshmoe12> damn
[19:39] <Misiex> who knows how to run windows under virtual machines?
[19:39] <NullCity> yes
[19:40] <dli> Misiex, just start with the second question?
[19:40] <Misiex> a good visual web editor , what do u recommend?
[19:40] <NullCity> None
[19:40] <NullCity> Use Text Editor (gedit)
[19:41] <oCean> jshmoe12: this channel does not support mint
[19:41] <jshmoe12> sudokill: what if I tried a live cd since no operating system is loaded yet would that show if it is ubuntu or something else, what do u think?
[19:41] <sudokill> jshmoe12, you can try. itll probably work
[19:42] <sudokill> i cant think of much as cd drives are very easily detected generally
[19:42] <Tetsuo55> can anyone tell me if these dmesg messages need to be reported as tickets? or even better can be fixed by me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/658820/
[19:43] <slinzex> oCean, thanks :D but I wanted to add "1" at final, before extension. So I remade your script, apliyed and get files like 1file1.xml lol
[19:44] <guntbert> Misiex: what is your ubuntu problem?
[19:44] <slinzex> oCean, it's ok, all worked, coz I backed up before
[19:44] <slinzex> oCean, thank you !
[19:44] <Misiex> samba - i want to connect two pcs by wifi but i cant configure it properly
[19:45] <antihero> anyone got any idea why aplay -l shows no cards despite a card existing in lspci and having a module loaded?
[19:45] <antihero> it worked before reboot
[19:45] <antihero> and not wont work,d espite reboots
[19:46] <t4nk935> XDisplayHeightMM from X11/Xlib.h returns 41351, but if I change the resolution from 1024x768 to 800x600 and change it back to 1024x768. It returns 203, which is correct. what is going on? How can I fix it so it returns the value I want correctly?
[19:46] <krosh> I'm trying to install Umbrello, but I get an error related to dependency unmet: "kdebase-runtime but it is not going to be installed"
[19:47] <chenthu> i have a broadcom bcm4311 wireless card [14e4:4312], i tried using the wiki guide to install the STA wireless driver, but now its not working yet before installing i atleast had "wireless network (no-firmware) but now i dont even get the "wireless network (no-firmware )" thing coming up....can some one help
[19:47] <krosh> may I use another repository?
[19:51] <antihero> hello? anyone?
[19:52] <NullCity> Yes
[19:53] <DASDSDADS> Hello
[19:54] <DASDSDADS> i need help woth ubuntu
[19:54] <DASDSDADS> its about compiz #compiz
[19:54] <antihero> I was wondering if anyone knows anything about alsa not picking up cards
[19:54] <antihero> welll it does when I do alsa reload (as it lists the relevant modules)
[19:54] <DASDSDADS> hi
[19:54] <DASDSDADS> its about compiz #compiz
[19:55] <DASDSDADS> i need help woth ubuntu
[19:55] <NullCity> !compiz
[19:55] <wols_> DASDSDADS: ask your real question already
[19:55] <antihero> NullCity: But then aplay -l displays nothing. I've tried googling.
[19:55] <dli> antihero, do you see anything in: cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[19:56] <antihero> dli: Indeed, my card is there.
[19:57] <DASDSDADS> well
[19:58] <DASDSDADS> the window maximise where it is most
[20:00] <ushills> hi, can anyone help me get a ar5007g wireless card work with WPA or WEP
[20:00] <NullCity> not sure
[20:01] <NullCity> I only help 802.11
[20:01] <bombshellz> guntbert: Alright ;)
[20:01] <ushills> that should be the same, using ath5k driver and cannot connect to wpa or wep only open
[20:01] <guntbert> bombshellz: :)
[20:02] <WeThePeople> i am having trouble setting up a printer. how do i setup the printer.
[20:03] <chenthu> guys can u tell me how to install adobe flash player?
[20:03] <edbian> chenthu: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:03] <chenthu> edbian:  thank you..
[20:03] <edbian> chenthu: sure
[20:03] <WeThePeople> do i use serial port 1 or 2 or other or network printer
[20:03] <hylian> anyone know why evolution doesn't auto update like it's supposed to?
[20:04] <mdgeorge1> hello.
[20:05] <DASDSDADS> the window maximise where it is most
[20:05] <Benkinooby> hi, what software can you recommend me for (automatically) downloading and listening to podcasts?
[20:06] <hylian> why does evolution have the option to check your mail every 10 minutes if it doesn't actually do it?
[20:06] <mdgeorge1> how painful would it be to install the newer xorg-1.10.2 from oneiric on my natty desktop?
[20:06] <ushills> benkinnooby try gpodder, banshee or rhythmbox
[20:06] <mdgeorge1> the pointer barriers patch would be really nice to have
[20:07] <Benkinooby> ushills, ok, thank you...
[20:07] <DASDSDADS> help
[20:07] <DASDSDADS> help
[20:07] <DASDSDADS> help
[20:07] <FloodBot1> DASDSDADS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <hylian> DASDSDADS, don't say help a lot. just ask your question
[20:08] <chenthu> i have a i386 .deb file and i am running a amd64 arch....this deb file is the UI for my 3g data card....i already have notified the vender and asked for a 64 bit .deb but will take time, till then is there any way to install it like extract and recompile it?
[20:09] <dvdr> Im trying to setup a wireless access point using a awus036h wireless adapter which I believe uses the rtl8187 chipset. Im running Ubuntu 11.04. Ive issued the command "iw phy phy0 info" and one of the results for supported  interface modes is AP. I'm not sure what to do from here to use this adapter as a wireless ap. Any suggestions where to start?
[20:10] <rain> !list
[20:10] <WeThePeople> is the location of the printer the MAC address or IP Address
[20:12] <[THC]AcidRain> what is a good ftp server that can follow sym links? proftpd wont follow outside of default path folder
[20:15] <Totem-schalter> k
[20:16] <igor_> hi , need help i have a HDD 500 gb capacity i try to mount hdd with disk utility at it give me an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/658852/ (when the system is starting , there is no hard drive but in disk manager hard drive it is )
[20:19] <ushills> hi, can anyone help me get a ar5007g wireless card work with WPA or WEP, uses the ath5k driver
[20:20]  * ChairMao asks - standard injet colour printer how many pages can the ink carts handle? 500? 100? just about to by a laser one and the toner can do 1500 - just would like some perspective 
[20:21] <h00k> ChairMao: You should check with the manufacturer, this isn't an Ubuntu related question.
[20:22] <fyrtyutryhttt555> Hi.
[20:23] <jahkop> Hi! i need some help with setting up fish for irssi, i cant get it to compile.
[20:24] <genii-around> ChairMao: http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/en-019/articles/inkjetPageYields.html?cCode=us has some info on that
[20:25] <ChairMao> thanks that's what im checking now!
[20:25] <ChairMao> just a nightmare to get stats specific for pinguy os hehe
[20:25] <ChairMao> thatnks
[20:29] <arooni-mobile> trying to format a microsd card thats inserted into a sd card adapter on my lenovo t420 and cant do it!  gparted says " Input/output error during read on /dev/mmcblk0"  ... and when i umount it; the device disappears
[20:34] <HotPornYo> Check it out: http://bit.ly/HotPornYo
[20:35] <rabe_> hi, you know what might be the reason that i have no video when playing mpeg files?
[20:36] <rabe_> i installed the codec packs, audio works.
[20:37] <chenthu> can any one tell me how to install a login screen theme?
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> rabe_: but you have sound?
[20:38] <twana> hEY
[20:38] <twana> I need some help
[20:39] <twana> I have really low FPS in Minecraft.
[20:39] <twana> In Xubuntu
[20:39] <twana> but not in Windows
[20:39] <twana> Why?
[20:40] <george> hello, any idea how could i capture the stream url from a radio like this http://cjay.player.amri.ca/ in ubuntu? i had programs in windows, but here, i dunno... i want to output it in a player
[20:40] <hashitish> How can i make a iptables script if all iptables commands need sudo in front of them ?
[20:41] <dooglus> any idea how I can 'grep' for a 0 byte (NUL)?
[20:41] <spetrea> his face god dammit  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxRpWpNGEl8
[20:41] <rabe_> i have sound. also youtube works..
[20:41] <rww> !ot | spetrea
[20:41] <tkeith> dooglus: I'd guess it'd be "\0" but no guarantee
[20:42] <Reaper_> so do I update my software through the ubuntu software center?
[20:42] <dooglus> tkeith: $ date | grep -l '\0'
[20:42] <dooglus> (standard input)
[20:42] <rabe_> and the ati drivers seem to work. i can run 3d games
[20:42] <dooglus> that means it found it
[20:43] <dooglus> tkeith: ... and it shouldn't have
[20:43] <tkeith> dooglus: Hmm, not sure then, sorry
[20:44] <owner> hey just installed julinux and hit finish install the screen went black for 30 mins but didnot restart itself did i do something wrong
[20:44] <rabe_> Reaper_, also you can update with the terminal
[20:44] <rannmann> Why doesn't Ubuntu use iptables?
[20:44] <rww> rannmann: it does
[20:45] <rannmann> Where's the config file?
[20:45] <rabe_> so no ideas concerning my video problem?
[20:45] <th0r> rannmann: there is no config file for iptables
[20:45] <rannmann> That doesn't make sense.
[20:45] <george> hello, any idea how could i capture the stream url from a radio like this http://cjay.player.amri.ca/ in ubuntu? i had programs in windows, but here, i dunno... i want to output it in a player
[20:45] <rannmann> So it uses iptables, but you can't change anything?
[20:45] <chenthu> rabe_: did u try system testing?
[20:45] <rannmann> What's the point?
[20:46] <th0r> rannmann: you can change anything you like, but there is no config file
[20:46] <rabe_> chenthu, yes
[20:46] <chenthu> th0r: hi... how r u?... i again sucessfully instaled my ubuntu natty...
[20:47] <rannmann> Why not?
[20:47] <chenthu> rabe_: it should have shown u, if anything is missing... didn't it?
[20:47] <twana> Why do i have very low FPS in minecraft?
[20:47] <twana> In linux
[20:47] <owner> hello
[20:47] <twana> and now it windows?
[20:47] <twana> hey
[20:47] <rabe_> strangely ambeded mpegs work.. as in youtube.. if i grab that file and play from harddisk.. only sound.
[20:47] <owner> dont know if i installed correctly
[20:47] <rabe_> also, dvds are sound only..
[20:48] <chenthu> rabe_:  did u install ur codec using package manager or manually?
[20:48] <c-tux> hi
[20:48] <rabe_> chenthu, apt-get
[20:49] <chenthu> rabe_: hmm....in that case no idea..... but i would advice you to remove all and then use system test to automatically download the correct one
[20:49] <t4nk604> hi all, xdpyinfo shows "resolution:    3x0 dots per inch". But it should be 96x96. why does X11 initializing the wrong dpi?
[20:50] <chenthu> rabe_: did u try giving no in system test when it played mpeg?
[20:50] <rabe_> yeah
[20:50] <c-tux> heh
[20:50] <c-tux> stones
[20:50] <chenthu> rabe_: wht was the reponse...
[20:51] <rabe_> reinstalling the drivers..
[20:51] <rabe_> did that
[20:52] <chenthu> rabe_: drivers?... or codecs?
[20:52] <rabe_> drivers..
[20:52] <Anon1234> Hey, I've a problem with sdl apps using different touchpad settings in fullscreen. It makes it impossible to navigate. Is there a way to change it?
[20:52] <rabe_> apperantly my radeon 3400hd handles mpegs
[20:53] <chenthu> rabe_: oh ok....sry i dont know whats the problem....never used a radeon
[20:53] <rabe_> kk.
[20:55] <Bisu[Shield]> ok banshee is just dunce... what is the best media manager for ubuntu?
[20:55] <ozzloy> what's the group i need to add a user to to give them sudo ability?
[20:55] <Bisu[Shield]> that I can drag a folder to and it will figure on its own where the files are
[20:56] <jrib> ozzloy: admin (verify by reading your /etc/sudoers)
[20:56] <guest_> ciaooooooooooo
[20:56] <Dexo> hey, i have a question
[20:56] <ozzloy> jrib, cool
[20:56] <Dexo> do programs that are Mac Only work with ubuntu?
[20:56] <jrib> Dexo: probably not
[20:57] <Dexo> darn
[20:57] <Bisu[Shield]> am I invisible?
[20:57] <jrib> Bisu[Shield]: we can't answer that over irc
[20:57] <Dexo> so ishowu wouldnt work for ubuntu
[20:57] <jrib> !music | Bisu[Shield]
[20:58] <jrib> !player | Bisu[Shield]
[20:58] <Anon1234> Bisu[Shield]: I like clementine, but I'm not sure whether it has that feature.
[20:59] <Bisu[Shield]> thanks
[21:00] <sht> hey guys. does anyone know of a workaround for apt-get/dpkg being extremely slow when server is under load? essentially my apt-get requests hang on "unpacking...". see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623447&page=3 -- the version of dpkg that comes with maverick doesnt have the force unsafe io option though.
[21:00] <haresh> hello need some help i just installed the 10.04 lts but i cant get internet connection please help
[21:00] <d784> i try to run a software for my video card on wine
[21:00] <Anon1234> haresh: What exactly do you mean? Wifi?
[21:00] <d784> but it said,"the permission could not be changed"
[21:01] <chenthu> haresh: what type of connection are u using?
[21:01] <haresh> like when i put in a wired connection  it says disconnected and when i scan and connect to my wifi it also says the same thing
[21:02] <chenthu> haresh: what type of wireless hard u have?
[21:02] <ziga_> hello
[21:02] <george> hello, any idea how could i capture the stream url from a radio like this http://cjay.player.amri.ca/ in ubuntu? i had programs in windows, but here, i dunno... i want to output it in a player
[21:03] <haresh> wpa2
[21:04] <ziga_> i d allso like to know how to live stream a radio
[21:07] <chenthu> haresh: i am asking u the type of card
[21:07] <haresh> how can i check that ?
[21:07] <chenthu> haresh:  like broadcom or what?
[21:08] <haresh> how can i check that on my lapto
[21:08] <chenthu> haresh:  ~$ lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[21:08] <haresh> *laptop
[21:08] <chenthu> haresh: just type this "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4"
[21:09] <chenthu> haresh: whats the result?
[21:10] <haresh> broadcom cotpation netlink BCM57780 gigabit enthernet PCIe
[21:12] <haresh> chenthu: broadcom cotpation netlink BCM57780 gigabit enthernet PCIe
[21:12] <chenthu> haresh:  not ur ethernet i askd for ur wifi
[21:12] <chenthu> haresh: aaarrrrggghhh
[21:12] <Mahamed> Hi
[21:13] <Mahamed> Why does it take very long for ubuntu to shut down???
[21:13] <haresh> chenthu: my wifi is disabled i cant get it till i restart my laptop
[21:13] <chenthu> haresh: did u check in System>>ADMINISTRATION>> additional drivers?
[21:13] <paulo> hello I have a problem with the use of Ubuntu in a Asus a6. Can anyone help me please?
[21:14] <kingspider> sup paulo
[21:14] <Mahamed> checking now
[21:15] <Mahamed> apprently my monitoer geos black
[21:15] <BixNood> Tired of niggers?
[21:15] <BixNood> Sick of their monkeyshines?
[21:15] <BixNood> We are too!
[21:15] <sixstring> Will "apt-get dist-update" take me from karmic to lucid?
[21:15] <FloodBot1> BixNood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <BixNood> Join Chimpout Forum!
[21:15] <Newbe> Hi guys i need your help please i have a bash file but i cannot make it run :( i get the message ' You are not authorized to install the driver package , only user with root privileges can do that' can anybody help me. thanks :)
[21:15] <Mahamed> I use  WIn XP as main OS but it seems ubuntu isnt working well yet
[21:16] <sixstring> Newbe, try "sudo yourbashfile".
[21:16] <chenthu> haresh: did u check in System>>ADMINISTRATION>> additional drivers?
[21:16] <Mahamed> yes
[21:16] <haresh> yeah
[21:16] <Mahamed> no new drivers
[21:16] <haresh> thats noting
[21:16] <Mahamed> ??
[21:16] <sixstring> Mahamed, new hardware?
[21:17] <sixstring> Linux driver support usually lags OEM/Windows driver support.
[21:17] <Mahamed> no
[21:17] <Mahamed> ino
[21:17] <sixstring> Older hardware should be supported pretty well.
[21:17] <Mahamed> I have ubuntu and XP side by side
[21:17] <sixstring> 11.04?
[21:17] <Mahamed> no
[21:17] <chenthu> haresh: what was the result?... did u find ur card in the list?
[21:18] <sixstring> What's not working well, Mahamed?
[21:18] <guntbert> !u | chenthu
[21:18] <Mahamed> 10.04 LTS
[21:18] <Newbe> Hi guys i need your help please i have a bash file but i cannot make it run :( i get the message ' You are not authorized to install the driver package , only user with root privileges can do that' can anybody help me. thanks :)
[21:18] <haresh> it shows noting
[21:18] <chenthu> haresh:  look here and try both.... though ur crd is not supported it might work.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:19] <sixstring> Newbe, are you using the command-line?
[21:19] <wildbat> (02:16:05 PM) sixstring: Newbe, try "sudo yourbashfile". .....
[21:19] <chenthu> haresh:  look here and try both.... though your card is not supported it might work.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:19] <Newbe> sixstring, yes but i cannot make it run, its a autorun file
[21:19] <chenthu> Newbe: just add sudo infront of the command to run the bah file
[21:20] <chenthu> Newbe: bash*
[21:20] <nadiyama> Hi, how I could update mesa?
[21:20] <d784> .
[21:21] <qinns> Newbe: sudo bash file.sh, or sudo ./file.sh (be sure to be in directory where file is.)
[21:21] <Newbe> qinns: yes done but i get an error message :(
[21:21] <d784> i try to run a software for my video card with wine and keep saying permission cant be changed
[21:21] <d784> ?
[21:21] <sixstring> OK, so back to my question: Will "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" move me up to the next version of Ubuntu? (Say, from 10.10 to 11.04?)
[21:22] <Black_Claw> Hi, I am looking for a internet radio transmitter program that can stream what-u-hear line. Anybody knows?
[21:22] <qinns> Newbe: What driver is it?
[21:22] <chenthu> haresh: u checked
[21:22] <haresh> i cant connect to the net at all
[21:22] <h00k> sixstring: no, if you're looking to update that way, it would be 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[21:22] <haresh> hardware drivers right
[21:22] <chenthu> haresh:  then how r u using irc?
[21:22] <haresh> i am using my pc
[21:23] <Newbe> qinns: for the samsung laser printer ML 1665
[21:23] <sixstring> Ah, h00k, thanks. "do-release-upgrade" is what I'd forgotten.
[21:23]  * sixstring tosses h00k a donut.
[21:23] <chenthu> haresh:  hey read what i gave u ....it has even for people who doesnt have internet... u can download and transfer using usb or any other medium then install
[21:23]  * h00k trades it in for an apple, but thanks, sixstring ;)
[21:24] <sixstring> :)
[21:24] <c1txs> newb
[21:24] <sixstring> All my donuts are Good For You. :)
[21:24] <c1txs> it triggers my mechs
[21:24] <c1txs> !newb
[21:24] <qinns> Newbe: You can: sudo -i (to get root shell), or try to find .deb package of driver (recommended).
[21:24] <c1txs> yeah
[21:25] <sixstring> Oy, ubottu. Why not?
[21:25] <sixstring> Oh, it's a bot. No humanity. ;)
[21:25] <Newbe> qinns: just found tar.gz package on website of samsung
[21:27] <asteve> i'd like to download a key from a webpage and apply it to apt-key in one line
[21:28] <asteve> i've tried curl http://site.com/gpg.key | apt-key add; that's been unsuccessful, what do I need to do?
[21:28] <backtrack5proble> i am looking for a backtrack 5 channel
[21:29] <backtrack5proble> cant seem to find it
[21:29] <c1txs> lol
[21:29] <guntbert> !backtrack | backtrack5proble
[21:29] <backtrack5proble> can some one give me the channel name?
[21:29] <guntbert> backtrack5proble: ^^
[21:29] <h00k> backtrack5proble: as the factoid says, #backtrack-linux
[21:30] <qinns> Newbe: Still not perfect, but.... there is also: http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/
[21:30] <NullCity> !bactrack-linux
[21:31] <eemoraniii> need help installing 11.04, have it setup to install from a thumb drive, computer boots, I choose install to HD, and then nothing happens, same thing when I try to install from CD
[21:31] <backtrack5proble> how do i connect
[21:31] <h00k> backtrack5proble: /join #backtrack-linux
[21:31] <backtrack5proble> this is diff from bt4
[21:31] <Reaper_> whats the command to go to google from the terminal?
[21:31] <backtrack5proble> thx
[21:31] <backtrack5proble> hook
[21:31] <backtrack5proble> bb
[21:31] <lalalala_851> dsdad
[21:31] <lalalala> dsdad
[21:31] <h00k> lalalala_851: Please remove the bot from the channel
[21:32] <wagnebr1> I am having trouble getting my internal microphone working on my dell inspiron N5010 laptop.  I'm using 11.04 64-bit.  Any help would be much appreciated.
[21:32] <guntbert> Reaper_: w3m google.com
[21:32] <Reaper_> thanx
[21:32] <chenthu> haresh:  hey i got disconnected ,,,, so u solved it?
[21:32] <\DSAFEW\> wagnebr1, alsamixer, press F4 and unmute things?
[21:32] <haresh> nope i cant
[21:33] <Jauska> Bonjour,
[21:33] <guntbert> Reaper_: you will have to install it first :)
[21:33] <haresh> my wirless interface is WiFilink 1000 series
[21:33] <Jauska> Quelqu'un aurait une invitation svp
[21:33] <guntbert> !fr | JJayskaauska
[21:33] <JJayskaauska> #ubuntu-fr
[21:34] <wagnebr1> \dsafew\, what do I need to do with alsamixer?
[21:34] <\DSAFEW\> wagnebr1, did you press F4?
[21:34] <chenthu> haresh: did u read what i gave u?
[21:35] <\DSAFEW\> wagnebr1, any mics to unmute on that menu?
[21:35] <Kujuu> Hey guys, I'm fairly new to ubuntu and linux (I installed it this morning) and I have a question regarding ATI Eyefinity. I managed to install the Catalyst/fglrx but I don't seem to be able to activate Eyefinity and the bezel compensation. Anyone is able to help?
[21:35] <wagnebr1> no there are no mics to unmute
[21:35] <cyborg> Guys!!!!!
[21:35] <guntbert> !nickspam > Jayska
[21:35] <cyborg> i need helppp
[21:35] <haresh> yea
[21:36] <guntbert> cyborg: with what?
[21:36] <RA_drc> !mint
[21:36] <chenthu> haresh: if u haVE READ THEN U CAN SOLVE IT....WHAT DID U UNDERSTAND FROM IT?
[21:36] <hacknowledge> hi guys, can i need help :(
[21:36] <hacknowledge> *i need help
[21:36] <cyborg> i installed fedora 15 but i also installed fedora grub. now i can only enter fedora, not ubuntu anymore... is there a way to rewrite ububntu grub??
[21:37] <wagnebr1> it's not even detecting the hardware....
[21:37] <guntbert> chenthu: please use plain english and take it easy on the caps :)
[21:37] <wagnebr1> mic hardware that is
[21:37] <haresh> they ask me to connect to the net and do some updates
[21:37] <chenthu> guntbert:  thatwas a typo
[21:37] <\DSAFEW\> wagnebr1, looks like it, what kind of mic is it? you said it's internal, but is your sound working?
[21:37] <Tetsuo55> i just compiled a newer version of a program that i also have installed, how do i use that new executable instead of the system wide one?
[21:37] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I got srs problem: on www.simon-guenter.de there should be a MySQL error, but there's nothing, display_errors in php.ini is set to on. Any ideas?
[21:38] <h00k> einovatia01: is lalalala_890 your bot?
[21:38] <RA_drc> !nickspam
[21:38] <guntbert> KNUBBIG: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[21:38] <chenthu> haresh:  then u havent read it completely... there is a section for people who are not connectd to nt also....read it
[21:38] <StevenR> KNUBBIG: did you change the setting for errors and restart apache?
[21:38] <KNUBBIG> StevenR: yes
[21:39] <chenthu> haresh:  bet*
[21:39] <chenthu> haresh: net*
[21:39] <wagnebr1> \DSAFEW\, yes my internal speakers work fine, as does my audio out put on my headphone jack as well as the audio output throught HDMI
[21:39] <\DSAFEW\> wagnebr1, and the same device has the mic output on it? what's going on there?
[21:41] <OmegaForte> Wow. I love mono so hard.
[21:42] <OmegaForte> <sarcasm />;
[21:42] <abys> Hi Guys, I'm looking for some documentation to adapt a conky python script to get information though MPRIS-DBUS instead of the old dbus..
[21:43] <wagnebr1> \DSAFEW\, i'm not sure how to answer your question.... I tried using skype earlier today.  I signed up with a new account and tried a test call, where i realized that my mic was not working.  So then I tried to look for the mic under the sound preferences-input tab, and realized there was nothing listed.  I have a dual boot with windows 7 and so I tried the mic in skype through windows (using a test call again) and it worked fine
[21:43] <wagnebr1> .  Now I'm trying to figure out how to get it to work in ubuntu.....this is how I ended up on this irc channel
[21:43] <chenthu> haresh: try these two commands "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb" and then "sudo modprobe b43" if it doesnt work yet then u have to follow the link i gave you thats it...nothing more i can do
[21:44] <bob_> just installed xubuntu.what should I install to play dvds?
[21:45] <bob_> sorry 4 the lame q
[21:45] <guntbert> !dvd | bob_
[21:46] <Kujuu> Hey guys, I'm fairly new to ubuntu and linux (I installed it this morning) and I have a question regarding ATI Eyefinity. I managed to install the Catalyst/fglrx but I don't seem to be able to activate Eyefinity and the bezel compensation. Anyone is able to help?
[21:46] <bob_> thank you!
[21:46] <Kujuu> Ultimately, I'd like to migrate from w7 to unbuntu for gaming. Is that possible/recommended?
[21:47] <wols_> Kujuu: no
[21:48] <kernal> Kujuu: I'm playing StarCraft II on Ubuntu with PlayOnLinux without problems :D
[21:48] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, I'm playing FNV and Killing Floor in wine, no issues.
[21:49] <wols_> Kujuu: WINE just isn't compatible enough to make it a proper gaming platform. yes some games work fine: SC2, WoW, etc. but generally you will enocunter problems. lots of them
[21:49] <Kujuu> kernal: OmegaForte: What GPU are you guys using?
[21:49] <Kujuu> wols_: SC2, WoW and League of Legends are the only games I play, and I plan on dual booting with w7
[21:49] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, Nvidia 9800GT.
[21:49] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, Technically, two of them in SLI, with dual head xinerama on the master card.
[21:49] <wols_> you need a nvidia gpu, cause ati's opengl isn't slow. it's the same on the windows side: nvidia has fast opengl support for games, ati slower. but all 3D is done via opengl under linux
[21:50] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, 3820x1080
[21:50] <wols_> Kujuu: appdb.winehq.org  check the games you play there
[21:50] <Kujuu> wols_: Okay, so with my 5870HD, I'll get tearing on the desktop as well as in-game?
[21:50] <wols_> *ati's opengl is slow
[21:51] <wols_> Kujuu: no clue if you do. you do want to use fglrx drivers tho
[21:51] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, You're gonna have one heck of a hard time using any acceleration with ATI's non-standard OpenGL implementation.
[21:51] <Kujuu> I did install fglrx this morning but everything seems to run slower (graphically) so I thought I did something wrong
[21:51] <d784> are there any driver software download for geoforce 210 video card?
[21:52] <cowslammer> my images cd won't automount.  what is the command to do that?
[21:52] <d784> it came with it but is for windows
[21:52] <wols_> !nvidia > d784
[21:52] <d784> yea nvidias
[21:52] <Kujuu> !nvidia | d784
[21:52] <Kujuu> :p
[21:52] <arooni-mobile> my memory card reader doesnt work on ubuntu 11.04
[21:52] <wagnebr1> \DSAFEW\ i figured it out.  thanks for your help.  I had my hardware configured for output only and then I switched it to duplex so inputs would also be expected.
[21:53] <cowslammer> what is the command to mount a cd?
[21:53] <\DSAFEW\> weird
[21:53] <\DSAFEW\> though linux sound is often weird...
[21:53] <kernal> Kujuu: I have a 13" MacBook Pro mid 2010 so I think it's a GeForce 320M
[21:53] <\DSAFEW\> cowslammer, mount
[21:54] <OmegaForte> \DSAFEW\, Depends on if you're using pulse or alsa.
[21:54] <kernal> Kujuu, wine goes really well for gaming on portables too
[21:54] <Kujuu> Oh I have a desktop PC, a real beast with 3 1920x1080 screen. But since I can't use eyefinity on ubuntu, I guess I'll wait until it supports it and stick with windows
[21:55] <cowslammer> \DSAFEW\, i tried "mount /dev/sr0 mountpoint" and it says unknown device
[21:55] <IT> kujuu, why not going on Linux regardless to that?
[21:55] <ETronik> Hi all, my install of 11.04 went well save for not enabling Unity by default, went to classic, how do I get Unity? I tried selecting Ubuntu from the login screen but it just goes to classic. help appreciated TIA! BTW I had the NVIDIA drivers installed and enabled. TIA
[21:56] <SoftarPaul> I can't open Transmission because of I/O-error. How to fix it?
[21:56] <ETronik> hmm does Unity work on a multi-monitor setup ?
[21:56] <OmegaForte> ETronik, Are you sure you want unity?
[21:56] <\DSAFEW\> cowslammer, is that the right device?
[21:56] <OmegaForte> ETronik, No, it's for netbooks and phones
[21:56] <cowslammer> \DSAFEW\, pretty sure it is
[21:56] <IT> unity sucks :/
[21:56] <OmegaForte> ETronik, Stick with gnome if you can, or switch to KDE.
[21:56] <IT> no match to GNOME
[21:56] <OmegaForte> IT, Tell it.
[21:57] <ETronik> ok menssage received :-) I'll stick to plain Gnome , thanks
[21:57] <Kujuu> IT: I really really like Ubuntu, the interface, the speed, the stability and all. But I'm an avid gamer and if I can't play most of my games or if I can't use my setup to the fullest, there's not much to keep me interested
[21:57] <TheLifelessOne> Hi, what terminal / shell does Ubuntu use by default? I've been looking through the package listings, and I can't seem to find it.
[21:57] <cowslammer> can someone tell me the device name to mount a CD ?
[21:57] <IT> kujuu, dual boot with windows
[21:57] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, It's typically sr0~9
[21:58]  * o0o0 he
[21:58] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, If it's not there as those, type blkid
[21:58] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, it says unknown device on sr0
[21:58]  * o0o0 screem
[21:58] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, Er, I meant mount.
[21:58] <h00k> !ot | o0o0
[21:58]  * o0o0 screams
[21:58] <Kujuu> IT: Yeah I could do that, but what do you want me to use Ubuntu for then? :p I don't like the idea of switching OS just for chatting/browsing the web
[21:58] <o0o0> her
[21:59] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, You could get a video card that complies to OGL standards...
[21:59] <o0o0> help
[21:59] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, I mean, that's an idea..
[21:59] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, it shows sda1 thu sda6
[21:59] <cowslammer> *thru
[21:59] <Kujuu> OmegaForte: I just bought this one, I'll switch to Nvidia once I have some money I guess (unless I can't do a "eyefinity" on Nvidia, I don't know if there is an equivalent)
[21:59] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, Those are hard drives. Go to system - > administration - [Disk Utility]
[22:00] <IT> kujuu, well, i hate windows for a lot of reasons, but if you're an hardcore gamer, you should stick to it :)
[22:00] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, You can do something better on linux. It's called TwinView and Xinerama.
[22:00] <wols_> Kujuu: there is no equivalent
[22:00] <IT> hard cord *
[22:00] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, It makes EyeFinity look obfuscated as all get out.
[22:00] <IT> ah, as long as it's not the EVIL MAC :P :P
[22:01] <wols_> OmegaForte: does it do 3D accel on all screens?
[22:01] <Kujuu> So Xinerama works with Nvidia?
[22:01] <OmegaForte> wols_, Yeah.
[22:01] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, it shows sr0 there but says no media detected
[22:01] <tokam> hi is it possible to get different settings concening to desktop panels, depending on weather the 2ed monitor is plugged in or not
[22:01] <OmegaForte> wols_, Or I wouldn't play Killing Floor in 3840x1080.
[22:01] <d784> how u install driver for geoforce 210 video card
[22:01] <d784> ?
[22:02] <Kujuu> !nvidia | d784
[22:02] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, So, is there a disk in the drive?
[22:02] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, yes there is a CD loaded
[22:02] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, Okay, what does Disk Util say the drive's location is?
[22:02] <krazykrivda> if i have variable file="nothing;cp /this/file /to here/"  then run command.. cp %file    ... why does it not recognize the ; as line break?
[22:03] <OmegaForte> krazykrivda, Because it's not a break.
[22:03] <krazykrivda> OmegaForte: what is?
[22:03] <OmegaForte> krazykrivda, ; is only a break in C and Python...And Java I think?
[22:03] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, /dev/sr0
[22:03] <IT> not in Python
[22:03] <IT> 2.7 at least
[22:03] <Kujuu> wols_: The Solaris SPARC OpenGL implementation, ATI Proprietary Linux driver and nVidia Proprietary Linux driver all support hardware accelerated rendering to all screens in Xinerama mode.
[22:04] <krazykrivda> OmegaForte: i can type in ... cp nothing;cp /this/file /to/here     ... and it works
[22:04] <Kujuu> So I guess it does work, I'd need to do more testing.
[22:04] <OmegaForte> krazykrivda, ;; is a break.
[22:04] <IT> the 3 version really messed Python up :S
[22:04] <krazykrivda> but using a variable it does not
[22:04] <OmegaForte> IT, Tell me about it.
[22:04] <edbian> krazykrivda: You need a space after the ;
[22:04] <krazykrivda> edbian: still same results
[22:04] <edbian> krazykrivda: then IDK
[22:04] <bobweaver> chili555: you jere
[22:04] <joru> Hi, i'm converting from using authpam to using mysql instead for my e-mail accounts. (following guide at: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/). I am experiencing some issues with squirrelmail. I can not really figure out where to point the Mailbox. Any ideas?
[22:04] <IT> krazykvida, what is your problem? Python related?
[22:04] <bobweaver> chili555: its up
[22:05] <chili555> yessir
[22:05] <chili555> be there soon
[22:05] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, It's going to work hackishly, or not at all.
[22:05] <ETronik> Boys the evolution of Ubuntu is stunning !! now the stuff just plain works !! I hope I'm not jinxing it...
[22:06] <sudokill> inb4 cant boot
[22:06] <OmegaForte> ETronik, Nope. It's a debian port. Debian just works.
[22:06] <OmegaForte> sudokill, That'd be funny if we were talking slax.
[22:06] <Kujuu> Okay, well thanks everyone! I'll wait a couple months, get myself a NVIDIA GPU and then try to fully migrate again :D!
[22:06] <kaoya> I just apt-get installed libdnet-dev. I wasn't paying much attention when installing, and now something is wrong with my network settings.
[22:06] <sudokill> Omega, actually i hear a lot of people get black screen with 11.04
[22:06] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, Avoid things that run .NET though.
[22:07] <Kujuu> Like?
[22:07] <OmegaForte> sudokill, Yeah, but that's typically their own fault for mucking about wiht conf's.
[22:07] <sudokill> fresh installs..
[22:07] <sudokill> idk lol
[22:07] <OmegaForte> Kujuu, I don't know, stuff like Stronghold Kingdoms (I've had to give it up) and other stuff that runs .NET
[22:07] <krazykrivda> OmegaForte: for example... "ls /nothing;cp /this/file /to/here" will return nothign does not exist but it will cp the 2nd part... however if i replace with "ls /$file" it says "/nothing;" does not exist
[22:07] <Kujuu> Okay, thanks for the infos it's much appreciated !
[22:07] <TheLifelessOne> OmegaForte: is this for Wine or something?
[22:08] <OmegaForte> TheLifelessOne, No, just general advice. .NET in wine sucks, even with MONO
[22:08] <t4nk067> hi, currently my resolution is 1024x768. but when I run xdpyinfo, it shows that my resolution is 3x0dpi. why is this?
[22:08] <TheLifelessOne> OmegaForte: Heh, yeah. .NET sucks everywhere, even in windows.
[22:08] <OmegaForte> TheLifelessOne, Kujuu wants to migrate like I did, but I had to give him the warnings I never got.
[22:08] <TheLifelessOne> OmegaForte: Such as?
[22:08] <sudokill> t4nk067, thats weird dpi
[22:08] <kaoya> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506076 seems to have the same problem
[22:08] <sudokill> t4nk067, you can force a dpi in xorg.conf
[22:09] <t4nk067> how can I do that?
[22:09] <OmegaForte> TheLifelessOne, Like "Mono will not help your .NET reliance, learn to rely on real code, like C."
[22:09] <OmegaForte> TheLifelessOne, Or "That's a neat little game you've got there. Too bad it's .NET!"
[22:09] <t4nk067> I can't find xorg.conf in /etc/X11. I read on forums that X11 no longer needs xorg.conf
[22:09] <OmegaForte> t4nk067, But you can still use it to define rules.
[22:09] <sudokill> t4nk067, where section montor is, you can add Option "DPI" "96 x 96" for eg
[22:10] <OmegaForte> t4nk067, Like I do.
[22:10] <qin> krazykrivda: What do you want to do?
[22:10] <sudokill> t4nk067, ah ok im not sure
[22:10] <sudokill> im sure itll still work...
[22:10] <OmegaForte> t4nk067, But I am. I muck around with my xorg.conf alla times! I an't the manpage, but I got infos.
[22:10] <krazykrivda> qin: i'm workign with s script that i cannot change.. but i can declare the variable $file anything i want
[22:11] <krazykrivda> qin: so i want to give that variable a proper value so it can execute an extra cmd
[22:11] <t4nk067> can I create an xorg.conf and just specify the resolution?
[22:11] <sudokill> yes
[22:12] <sudokill> t4nk067, is it resolution or dpi thats wrong
[22:12] <krazykrivda> qin: follow?
[22:12] <qin> krazykrivda: file=$(foo); echo $file
[22:13] <t4nk067> dpi is wrong I believe. I'm trying to use XDisplayHeightMM to find the height in MM, but it returns wrong value. As I dig in more why, I see that my dpi is wrong
[22:13] <krazykrivda> qin: what does that do
[22:14] <mattalexx> How can I increase the debugging output of autofs?
[22:14] <t4nk067> Interesting is, if I change my resolution to 800x600 then back to 1024x768. xdpyinfo show dpi 96x96
[22:14] <iceroot> qin: #bash
[22:14] <OmegaForte> mattalexx, --Verbose
[22:14] <qin> iceroot: Right
[22:14] <mattalexx> I know if has a --debug param but where do I put it?
[22:14] <OmegaForte> mattalexx, At the end of the string.
[22:15] <mattalexx> Autofs is being automatiocally started as a service.
[22:15] <sudokill> t4nk067, not sure why, try adding just the monitor dpi bit in
[22:15] <mattalexx> How do I add options then?
[22:15] <sudokill> it should set that as default
[22:15] <krazykrivda> qin: do you mind if I pm
[22:15] <mattalexx> OmegaForte, ^
[22:15] <qin> krazykrivda: iceroot is perhaps right, /j #bash, sure, pm
[22:15] <OmegaForte> mattalexx, Then stop the service, and start it with that arg. Only advice I got for yuo.
[22:16] <mattalexx> OmegaForte, Right, but I'm not sure how to start it manually. I know how to use sudo service autofs restart
[22:16] <t4nk067> I will try that, thank you
[22:17] <OmegaForte> mattalexx, Like I said; unless you manually restart it with the args, I can't help you.
[22:17] <mattalexx> OmegaForte, How is that done?
[22:17] <sublim21> hey all.  i just started using ubuntu about a week ago.  is there a way to back up my current setup so, god forbid, i have to reformat i can just load my current installation?
[22:18] <eoss> hello, is there a way to, in a directory, every time you create a file it gets put into a certain group?
[22:18] <d784> why my video card does not show in additional driver?
[22:18] <OmegaForte> mattalexx, Stop autofs should work.
[22:18] <iceroot> eoss: posix-acls (man setfacl)
[22:18] <d784> only show the default nvidia
[22:18] <OmegaForte> d784, That's the one you want.
[22:18] <eoss> ok thanks..ill checkt hat out iceroot
[22:19] <d784> but i put a new video card in
[22:19] <eoss> iceroot: that manpage doesnt exist
[22:19] <d784> im not useing the intergrated one
[22:20] <iceroot> eoss: should be coming with the package "acl"
[22:20] <eoss> k
[22:23] <t4nk875> hello, again. I can't seems to genereate xorg.conf with sudo Xorg -configure
[22:23] <t4nk875> how can I create xorg.conf on ubuntu 11.04
[22:24] <edbian> t4nk875: Is it not sudo xorg --reconfigure  ?
[22:24] <OmegaForte> edbian, He needs to redefine specific functions. He has to make a xorg.conf if one is missing.
[22:25] <edbian> OmegaForte: I thought it was --reconfigure, looking at the man page I am wrong
[22:25] <t4nk875> yeah, that isn't it.
[22:25] <OmegaForte> edbian, It's cool home skillet dog food gangsta yo.
[22:25] <edbian> ha
[22:25] <OmegaForte> I don't even, what is this.
[22:26] <t4nk875> does anyone know how I can generate the xorg.conf? I tried google, but wans't helpful.
[22:27] <TheLifelessOne> Can anyone tell me what font the Ubuntu terminal uses?
[22:27] <totalshare> download his: VERO Ragazza 20enne BELLISSIMA.rar
[22:27] <Guest35912> hello
[22:27] <cowslammer> OmegaForte, the answer was a reboot
[22:27] <IT> t4nk875
[22:27] <IT> have you tried reading this?
[22:27] <IT> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[22:27] <OmegaForte> cowslammer, AWESOME! reboot -f is always the answer.
[22:28] <totalshare> download his: VERO Ragazza 20enne BELLISSIMA.rar
[22:31] <OmegaForte> Ahh. I love patching emerald while it's running...Nothing EVER goes wrong... <sarcasm />
[22:31] <IT> # total sarcasm # bullet proof  :P
[22:32] <EgyParadox> t4nk875: I think you can do it via recovery mode
[22:32] <OmegaForte> IT, You think you're so hot! <Crybendercryface>
[22:32] <OmegaForte> Dammit.
[22:35] <gardnan> what is emerald?
[22:38] <d784> does fedore uses the same command as ubuntu
[22:38] <d784> ?
[22:38] <linxeh> largely
[22:39] <linxeh> but there are differences in terms of package management and locations of files
[22:39] <linxeh> fedora is very similar to centos and redhat (but more up to date, and more buggy)
[22:39] <d784> yea but does it uses
[22:39] <d784> sudo
[22:40] <EgyParadox> They use the same commands but packages are different
[22:40] <EgyParadox> !rpm
[22:40] <nmxdaven> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11116870#post11116870  <--- if someone can solve this I will be your best friend ever
[22:41] <OmegaForte> Okay, uh, who contrib'd the latest changes to the image? I need to kill his face.
[22:42] <ryan__> I was trying to configure some compiz settings and somehow got to a blank screen that i can't even log into.
[22:42] <EgyParadox> Fedora uses rpm
[22:42] <ryan__> it has my desktop background, but i'm unable to access anything
[22:42] <edbian> ryan__: you're logged in?
[22:43] <edbian> ryan__: alt + f2 ?
[22:43] <zteam> Hi guys!
[22:43] <edbian> zteam: hello
[22:44] <zteam> Does anybody here know if it's safe to have 2 different versions of python installed at once?
[22:44] <OmegaForte> Ugh. I'm gonna take a brickbat to the mount detector.
[22:44] <OmegaForte> zteam, One will overwrite the other's old dependancies, I believe. It's like a recursive thing.
[22:44] <ryan__> yes
[22:44] <ryan__> that worked but still no windows or options
[22:44] <edbian> ryan__: run compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:45] <zteam> OmegaForte, does that means it is safe right?
[22:45] <ryan__> i started another profile before that i haven't touched
[22:45] <edbian> ryan__: We'll turn on the window decorator plugin (in ccsm)
[22:45] <edbian> ryan__: I can fix it from in here if alt + f2 works
[22:45] <OmegaForte> zteam, It should be fine.
[22:45] <ryan__> it did
[22:46] <ryan__> not now
[22:46] <zteam> OmegaForte, okey, the reason I'm asking is because I have problems with a python program which crashes completly randomly
[22:46] <ryan__> i'm going to log into other user
[22:47] <ryan__> the other user (we'll label it user2) was not the initial admin. does that matter?
[22:47] <OmegaForte> zteam, Well, I do a LITTLE python, just enough to automate some stuff. I'm not the one to ask about it.
[22:47] <OmegaForte> zteam, But if you can elaborate; maybe we can solve it.
[22:48] <zteam> OmegaForte,  so I was considering purging one of them from my system but then I did simulated purge with aptitude it won't to remove 500 packages from my system
[22:49] <OmegaForte> zteam, Yeah, don't do that. A lot of stuff relies on python now.
[22:49] <zteam> OmegaForte,  Well, it's not a app I written
[22:50] <OmegaForte> zteam, Well like I said; I can only offer a little bit of help. The guy to talk to isn't here (Or active right now). ThinkT510.
[22:50] <markmental> hello
[22:50] <zteam> OmegaForte,  no I won't but it looks strange that aptitude think I need both versions installed
[22:50] <OmegaForte> zteam Why not just go grab the source?
[22:51] <markmental> i need to format one of my partitions to ext4 so it can load mandriva linux how can i do this
[22:51] <vlt> markmental: mkfs.ext4
[22:51] <markmental> would gparted work?
[22:51] <goodtime> i think with gparted you can
[22:52] <ryan__> edbian?
[22:52] <zteam> OmegaForte,  well, I could of course but I don't know the python language good enough
[22:52] <markmental> okay thanks it worked with g-parted
[22:53] <ryan__> i think i'm just going to reinstall ubuntu AGAIN
[22:53] <ryan__> this will be the 4th time.
[22:54] <zteam> OmegaForte, I know some other languages such as Basic, Pascal and a little C/C++ but too me python looks very different
[22:55] <ryan__> first time, power went out, 2nd time ran into some strange window issues, 3rd time (now) messed up my compiz configurations
[22:55] <ryan__> lame
[22:56] <OmegaForte> Dammit, I take it ubuntu-looks is depreciated now too?
[22:56] <zteam> ryan__, try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure compiz instead
[22:57] <alex--> Can webmin get in ubuntu repositaries?
[22:58] <ryan__> where do i run it from?
[22:58] <ryan__> not able to access terminal
[22:58] <ryan__> lol... i messed up. going to try again
[22:58] <zteam> OmegaForte,  not to whine or something but it seems to me that Canoical change most of the things I liked with Ubuntu (such as aptittude, replacing gnome with Unity and so on)
[22:59] <ryan__> i will be back to post what i've come up with
[22:59] <zteam> OmegaForte,  :-)
[22:59] <ryan__> thanks
[22:59] <airtonix> i'm mad
[22:59] <OmegaForte> zteam, Well, Ubuntu doesn't use aptitude. It uses it's own package manager. Aptitude is Debian.
[22:59] <ryan__> me too
[22:59] <mgolisch> actualy it uses the same packagemanager
[22:59] <airtonix> ryan__: mad as hell?
[22:59] <mgolisch> dpkg
[23:00] <zteam> OmegaForte, well aptitude was avaialable until 10.10 when they did remove it
[23:00] <faint545> whats the program ubuntu uses to find and download restricted drivers?
[23:01] <mgolisch> faint545: its named jockey or something
[23:01] <airtonix> faint545: jockey-text or joecky-gtk
[23:01] <faint545> thx
[23:02] <w3bcrawler> anyone know if pyweb is = to python-webkit in apt/synaptic
[23:02] <zteam> mgolisch,  yeah sort of... aptitude does use apt itself, but in a more sofisticated way than apt itself does
[23:02] <faint545> anyone know of a fedora equivalent of jockey?
[23:02] <w3bcrawler> 20:02 < w3bcrawler> anyone know if pyweb is = to python-webkit in apt/synaptic
[23:02] <w3bcrawler> 20:02 < w3bcrawler> anyone know if pyweb is = to python-webkit in apt/synaptic
[23:02] <w3bcrawler> 20:02 < w3bcrawler> anyone know if pyweb is = to python-webkit in apt/synaptic
[23:02] <FloodBot1> w3bcrawler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <airtonix> w3bcrawler: umadbro? use apt-cache show python-webkit
[23:03] <alex--> Can webmin get in ubuntu repositaries?
[23:03] <airtonix> alex--: because webmin sucks, use zentyal ppa
[23:03] <mgolisch> alex--: no it got removed for a reason i guess
[23:03] <zteam> faint545, as Fedora doesn't include propriarety drivers by default, I doubt it exist in the default installation
[23:03] <alex--> because there were bugs in it
[23:03] <alex--> there also are some bugs in ubuntu 6.06
[23:04] <alex--> so i'm still not using ubuntu
[23:04] <airtonix> alex--: no pretty much is was just terrible.
[23:04] <alex--> (this is something like ubuntu > webmin)
[23:04] <alex--> was
[23:04] <airtonix> alex--: also grats on entering 2005
[23:04] <alex--> grats?
[23:04] <mgolisch> alex--: if you want it that bad build it from source ?
[23:04] <airtonix> congratulations my dear old chap
[23:04] <Omega> airtonix: watch your tone please
[23:04] <zteam> alex, 6.06 is very old now
[23:04] <airtonix> Omega: it's baratone
[23:04] <alex--> mgolisch: why isn't it just in the repositaries?
[23:05] <alex--> zteam: the version of webmin that got removed is also very old now
[23:05] <airtonix> alex--: see above ^ zentyal. webmin got replaced by ebox, which is now called zentyal, which is better obtained through ppa.
[23:05] <pp7> why has youtube stopped working on umplayer?
[23:05] <pp7> all of a sudden
[23:06] <alex--> why no webmin?
[23:06] <airtonix> ...
[23:06] <zteam> alex, well why  not download ifr from the repository for 6.06 then?
[23:06] <abys> Hi all, I try to connect on irc://irc.gnome.org/#banshee but can't find a way ton configure empathy for this irc chat.. any idea?
[23:07] <kvnn> hi
[23:07] <jonrafkind> is there a premade ffmpeg that can encode to x264? I see a bunch of posts on the web about compiling my own ffmpeg+x264, but Id rather not do that
[23:07] <alex--> airtonix: ?
[23:07] <zteam> alex--, but using old versions of remote adminstration tools is not something I would recommend thought
[23:07] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, It's five lines of text you type into bash. It's too easy to not do it.
[23:08] <jonrafkind> and what liens are those?
[23:08] <mgolisch> also their website has a deb package
[23:08] <mgolisch> why dont you just use that if you want webmin that bad
[23:08] <alex--> zteam: i meant more that in ubuntu 6.06 the webmin version with the old version was with the bug. It got fixed now but nobody is using webmin anymore...
[23:08] <jen_> question!
[23:09] <zteam> alex-- but you still wanna run it? :-)
[23:09] <alex--> zteam: why not, it got fixed now
[23:09] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[23:10] <jen_> I just got my itouch and I dont know how to unlock it from ubuntu
[23:10] <zteam> is webmin still updated then?
[23:10] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, It is THAT easy, homie.
[23:10] <jonrafkind> are you kidding me?
[23:10] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, Dead serious.
[23:10] <jonrafkind> have you seen the instructions to build ffmpeg with 264?
[23:10] <abb_a> hello, are there softwares on ubuntu by which i can run an application on many machines through virtualisation using my system as host?
[23:10] <jonrafkind> or are you just giving me generic advice
[23:10] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, And, the pro's of compiling it yourself are that it runs better on your system due to it being configured against your kernel.
[23:10] <jen_> anyone?
[23:10] <jonrafkind> i know how to build software, i ran gentoo for 8 years. im not asking how to compile stuff
[23:11] <coz_>  hey all
[23:11] <zteam> OmegaForte, building some software is actually quite hard
[23:11] <OmegaForte> zteam, Yeah, if you have dependancies.
[23:11] <jonrafkind> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 look at this crap
[23:11] <jonrafkind> that is not 5 lines of bash
[23:12] <OmegaForte> jonrafkind, Oh god, it's five minutes of work! It's hell! Let's burn down these idiot's houses! <sarcasm />
[23:12] <jonrafkind> god your an ass
[23:12] <OmegaForte> God...You know what? I'm gonna time myself to see how long it takes me to install this.
[23:13] <OmegaForte> starting now.
[23:13] <OmegaForte> Oh wait
[23:13] <OmegaForte> These instructions are 3 years old. I'm not following these.
[23:13] <zteam> OmegaForte, yes, exactly, I don't know with Ff-mpeg but to say it's always easy is in't really true
[23:13] <zteam> :-)
[23:13] <moffa> The instructions still work
[23:13] <OmegaForte> moffa, Oh, I see the update tag now. I'll do it.
[23:14] <abb_a> hello, are there softwares on ubuntu by which i can run an application on many machines through virtualisation using my system as host?
 I think you need to be more specific, which software etc
[23:15] <arooni-mobile> hi folks... my windows title bars keep disappearing on ubuntu 11.04; then when i go disable/re-enable them in compiz settings i have permenant black artifacts on my screen until i restart ubuntu/or gdm
[23:15] <arooni-mobile> now i have a black artifact over launch bar on side
[23:15] <arooni-mobile> super annoying
[23:15] <hoopjumping> heya, where's the wine directory located? I can't find it in this new unity desktop.
 ~/.wine
[23:15] <coz_> hoopjumping,   it should be under your home directory  open home hit   ctrl+h to show hidden
 virtualisation softwares
[23:16] <arooni-mobile> abb_a, huh?
 I had the same problem a while ago, did you try updating?
[23:16] <raven> hi
 hi
[23:16] <KM0201> or it's cuz ATI's driver sucks.
[23:16] <OmegaForte> zteam, One minute in, step 3 done.
[23:17] <om26er> arooni-mobile, you have ATI?
[23:17] <hoopjumping> thanks coz, found it now.
[23:17] <moffa> I'm seeing garbled text on the boot screen of my lenovo i7 laptop (sandy bridge), tried all versions of ubuntu - anyone got a fix?
[23:17] <OmegaForte> zteam, So much work copying and pasting...Even typing like I am is so much work..<sarcasm />
[23:17] <moffa> I am unable to do anything
 highlight the text and use the middle mouse button to paste
[23:18] <om26er> moffa,did you try the Oneiric Oceleot Alpha 3?
[23:18] <abb_a> arooni-mobile i took a look at kvm and figured i cant use it
[23:18] <om26er> latest kernel and latest X(?)
 Yes, I've tried the nightly builds as well, downloading another nightly again but I don't think i'll have much luck
[23:18] <edbian> Can I save money by buying a machine that does not have an OS on it?
[23:19] <jen_> will WINE work for itunes on linux?
[23:19] <jen_> :DDDD
[23:19] <raven> 10.04 after installation of xbmc and mythtv and reboot graphic errors with no option to run with low settings too. xbmc and mythtv deinstalled already and x-settings reset to default - no success. any ideas?
[23:19] <OmegaForte> moffa, I know right? So easy. I prefer typing though.
 I'm not even able to boot, i took a picture with my phone.. let me see if i can post it
 Have you tried mythbuntu?
[23:19] <abb_a> oh i'm sorry arooni-mobile
[23:20] <abb_a> moffa virtualisation softwares
[23:20] <raven> moffa, no did it with 10.04 lts
[23:20] <zteam> OmegaForte,  *lol* yeah, but if you reading the thread you see  some people having trouble despite following this steps?
[23:20] <OmegaForte> zteam, three minutes, am nearly done. Just need to do do a test after this make.
 try mythbuntu everything is setup alread
[23:21] <raven> moffa, how to repair this system?
[23:21] <jen_> what will work for itunes???
[23:21] <jen_> anyone?
 try running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
 sorry jen, I've never figured out how to activate in ubuntu, I had to use my friends laptop
[23:22] <th0r> jen_: gtkpod?
[23:22] <jen_> I have itouch
 gtkpod is for syncing not activating
[23:22] <OmegaForte> zteam, Well now we're over 5. but I'm testing now so..I'll call it seven, ten tops.
[23:23] <jen_> activating?
[23:24] <jen_> so activate from friends comutor?
[23:24] <zteam> OmegaForte,  Just so you know, I have compiled some software too, and it is'nt always just to follow the steps described in the forums everytime
 seems like the easiest way,
[23:25] <jen_> ok
[23:25] <jen_> thankies :D
 sorry I couldn't be more help
[23:25] <OmegaForte> zteam, Yeah, there's debugging involved, sometimes a few regressions and maybe a few retries to make sure everything works. But it's not rocket surgery.
[23:25] <arooni-mobile> hi folks... my windows title bars keep disappearing on ubuntu 11.04; then when i go disable/re-enable them in compiz settings i have permenant black artifacts on my screen until i restart ubuntu/or gdm
[23:25] <OmegaForte> zteam, I can train a monkey to do this.
[23:25] <OmegaForte> zteam, So there's no excuse for that jonr guy to hate it.
 have you ensured everything is updated?
[23:25] <raven> moffa, ok tnx that worked again and i'll try mythbuntu now ;)
 good luck
[23:26] <semi-afk> arooni-mobile: use metacity then "metacity --replace"
[23:26] <jen_> its ok
[23:26] <jen_> once I activate I can use it
[23:27] <raven> moffa, but why was ubuntu-desktop broken?
[23:27] <OmegaForte> zteam, Hmm. Wonder why this works..Oh wait..I followed instructions.
 yes it sync's relatively easy
[23:27] <raven> moffa, i only tryed to relogin for mythtv config
[23:27] <yebyen> hello, is there a way to start upstart listening on /com/ubuntu/upstart manually, like in a chroot?
[23:27] <zteam> OmegaForte, first of, I don't hate it at all, secondly please tell me then you have learned a monkey to do it, because I would really love to see that ;-)
[23:28] <yebyen> my host system is not ubuntu so it's not listening with upstart, even /sbin/init 5 doesn't begin to operate
[23:28] <OmegaForte> zteam, I know you didn't say that man. I said that jonr guy, whatever it was hated it. And yeah man. Just gotta go aprehend me a monkey. Next time in the heart of africa! Omega chases chimps with a net!
[23:28] <zteam> OmegaForte, and like I said, it sure works alot of times, but not every time
[23:29] <OmegaForte> zteam I'll call that run at 14 minutes tops, because I typed it.
[23:29] <OmegaForte> zteam,  Yeah man I know. I'm just saying. It's not rocket surgery.
[23:31] <zteam> OmeaForte: Yes, I agree that it's not rocket surgery but it sure, can be quite tricky and time consuming especially for a beginner :-)
[23:31] <yebyen> does anyone know what /com/ubuntu/upstart is?
[23:31] <OmegaForte> zteam, Hes' the one who said he'd been running Gentoo for 8 years..
[23:31] <yebyen> it's not any kind of socket i know of, unless i'm supposed to have a directory /com/ubuntu
[23:31] <coz_> ok guys.. i want to disable /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-ey4YPP/database -nolisten tcp vt7,,,, how do I do t his?
[23:33] <zteam> OmegaForte: *LOL* didn't know that... I'm not hanging around in this place too often :)
[23:33] <OmegaForte> zteam, Anyway man, back in a tick. Broke emerald...again.
[23:34] <zteam> OmegaForte well, why just don't try to run sudo dkpkg-reconfigure emerald then?
[23:35] <duckslammer> what application will show a list of thmbnails?
[23:35] <zteam> OmegaForte,  it usually fixes things for me, that's why I love aptitude and dpkg
[23:35] <zteam> OmegaForte,  ;-)
[23:36] <OmegaForte> zteam, What I miss? Emerald's not supported anymore...So I'm building source to work with 11.04 and other themers to give even more awesome.
[23:36] <glebihan> yebyen, I'd say this has something to do with DBus, but really not sure...
[23:36] <OmegaForte> zteam, Hackish tweaking, if it can be called anything.
[23:36] <duckslammer> what application will show a list of image  thmbnails?
[23:37] <glebihan> yebyen, guess I was right : http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/DBusInterface
[23:37] <hiatus> my friend has windows and ubuntu installed. he wants to allocate his unallocated space to Windows 7 how should he go about doing it ?
 I would use gparted
[23:38] <zteam> OmegaForte, calm down man... I no clue if it's still supported in 11.04 but at least it still supported in 10.10
[23:39] <OmegaForte> zteam, What? I'm very calm. I was just making a statement.
[23:39] <duckslammer> what application will show a list of image  thmbnails?
[23:39] <OmegaForte> zteam, Sorry if it seemed like I was excited.
[23:39] <hiatus> how would he user g parted? he used not experienced with Linux at all and my explanations confuse him
[23:39] <zteam> OmegaForte, okey, you seemed a little bit excited to me :)
[23:40] <ChristopherNG> Hello im trying to install from a PPA, all very simple stuff did the sudo add-apt-repository, worked, then did sudo apt-get update, now to do the final step sudo apt-get install thefilename, i tried thefilename but it cant find it?
[23:40] <OmegaForte> zteam, Nah man. I am cool as frozen custard.
[23:40] <glebihan> hiatus, well gparted is the easiest tool to use for partitioning...
 it uses an interface, it's relatively self-explanatory
[23:40] <semi-afk> hiatus: just use win7 disk managment then ....
[23:41] <zteam> OmegaForte glad to hear :) personally I don't go near 11.04 before I backup my system-partition :-)
[23:41] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, what package are you trying to install and from which ppa ?
[23:41] <Raggs> is it possible to get an iso of natty or is it just an upgrade?
[23:41] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: claws mail
[23:41] <OmegaForte> zteam, Well, I didn't expect something to go from supported to abandoned in a day.
[23:42] <duckslammer> what application will show a list of image  thmbnails?
[23:42] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, this package is the official repository, why are you using a ppa ?
[23:42] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: for the latest version
[23:42] <zteam> OmegaForte, well, that has been more or less exactly what happens to me almost everytime I upgrade my Ubuntu version
 imagemagick
[23:42] <ChristopherNG> i just dont know what the package name is called for the last step of installing from the ppa.
[23:42] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, ok so what error do you get when trying to install ?
[23:43] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, the package name should be claws-mail
[23:43] <OmegaForte> We go from cowslammer to duck slammer? I smell a conspiracy. and dinner.
[23:43] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: "couldnt find the package ****"
[23:43] <duckslammer> moffa thx
[23:43] <zteam> OmegaForte, it always breaks something for me, that I don't like to live without :-)
[23:43] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: thanks that claws-mail is what i was looking for..
[23:43] <OmegaForte> zteam, Yeah well I think I know enough to keep going with the upgrades, because I am not smart enough to rsync a backup.
[23:43] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: how do you know the package name from a ppa so this doesnt happen in the future is there an easier way than guessing?
 there is also gimp, albumshaper pornview and some more
[23:44] <Datz> Hi, do I have to set up a user for ftp or will already added users automatically be able to use ftp with their accounts?
[23:44] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, you can use apt-cache to search for packages, I just used "apt-cache search claws" to find the name of the package
[23:44] <OmegaForte> Wow, just like a netsplit.
[23:44] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: let me try
[23:45] <EgyParadox> !offtopic | Datz
[23:45] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, the list of packages available in a ppa should also be available from the ppa package on launchpad (I guess that ppa is on launchpad...)
[23:45] <zteam> OmegaForte, yes, I never created a backup before myself either, I always thought "come on it won't break something for this time too"
[23:45] <OmegaForte> zteam, Yeah. well you figure after the third time I would learn..
[23:45] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, ppa *page* on launchpad
[23:45] <Datz> EgyParadox: how is that offtopic?
[23:46] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: Sorry im abit confused as to what launchpad actually is...
[23:46] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: ive done the "sudo apt-cache search claw"
[23:46] <ChristopherNG> the package name should be in there somewhere ie the correct name like "claws-mail"
[23:46] <zteam> OmegaForte, I have been doing the same from 8.04 and on until this time
[23:46] <glebihan> Datz, system users should have access to ftp unless the configuration of the server restricts their access
[23:46] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  How do you recover a system if the drive that /boot was on was destroyed?
[23:47] <Datz> glebihan: thanks
[23:47] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, ok where did you find the ppa
[23:47] <glebihan> ?
 to their home directory
[23:47] <glebihan> Datz, you're welcome
[23:47] <semi-afk> !grub | TheRedOctober reinstall it
[23:47] <zteam> OmegaForte, with every release... well except for 11.04 then, and this time I probably to a backup of my system-partition
[23:47] <duckslammer> moffa apt-get says imagemagick already installed but doesn't show up on any menus
[23:47] <OmegaForte> zteam, I should do this.
[23:48] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, most ppa's are hosted on !launchpad
[23:48] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: sorry i got you mixed up yes the ppa came from the website called launchpad https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ppa
[23:48] <coz_> duckslammer,   imagemagick isnt a gui application it wont be in the menus
[23:48] <zteam> OmegaForte, yes me too... this time... ;)
[23:48] <OmegaForte> zteam, I am doing this now, actually.
 it's a command line program
[23:48] <zteam> OmegaForte, by, the way are u from sweden man?
[23:48] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: yeah i got it, i just always mess up on the last step when installing from a ppa because i dont know the proper spelling for the package name.
[23:49] <OmegaForte> zteam, No, I am not. I am israeli-american.
[23:49] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, on the page https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ppa, you have the list of packages included in the ppa
[23:49] <yebyen> glebihan: so maybe there is a way to start dbus...
[23:49] <duckslammer> moffa apparently it isn't in my PATH
 are you trying to do batches?
[23:50] <glebihan> yebyen, well Dbus should be started on boot
[23:50] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: when you click the link "view package details"? yes?
[23:50] <duckslammer> moffa no.  i jut want to see thumbnails for a directory of images
[23:51] <zteam> OmegaForte okey....
[23:51] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, yes
[23:51] <yebyen> glebihan: there is no boot, that's why i'm having trouble
[23:51] <krazykrivda> does anyone know if i can declare a variable in such a way that simply calling the variable will cp a file
[23:51] <yebyen> glebihan: the system is in a chroot
 Nautilus Image Converter, try using Ubuntu Software Centre
[23:51] <glebihan> yebyen, then "service dbus start" should start DBus
[23:51] <zteam> OmegaForte, who happens to live in norway then? :)
 It'll create a small thumbnail of a single picture
[23:52] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: so for instance the package name "claws-mail - 3.7.9-1ubuntu1~ppanatty0ubuntu1 " the first part of the name is the actual package name for the last step in installing a ppa always?
[23:52] <OmegaForte> zteam, The norwegians do, that's who.
[23:52] <OmegaForte> zteam, Unless one is lost or on vacation.
[23:52] <yebyen> glebihan: it did not work, i had to dbus-daemon --system --activation=upstart
[23:52] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, that's right
[23:52] <yebyen> glebihan: it wanted to connect to /com/ubuntu/upstart just like the others
[23:52] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: thanks for the help and thanks for showing me the sudo apt-cache search pkname* thats really handy
[23:53] <zteam> OmegaForte, true true
[23:53] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, you're welcome
[23:53] <ChristopherNG> glebihan: you can imagine how frustrating it can be having to guess a package name because you werent sure how in the first plac.e
[23:53] <glebihan> ChristopherNG, been there :)
[23:54] <Datz> humm.. somehow my grub boot option for Win7 disappeared recenrlt
[23:54] <zteam> OmegaForte, and "Omega Forte" is of course called  "Omega Forte" there too :-)
[23:54] <EgyParadox> Datz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[23:54] <OmegaForte> zteam, What does that mean in Norway? Here, mine is based on the greek things. The last form of power and strength, and an expressed skill or ability.
[23:55] <Datz> EgyParadox: that link doesn't seem to work for me
[23:55] <Datz> just looks liek there is no content
[23:56] <OmegaForte> zteam, And the thing I converted with ffmpeg is done and sounds good and pretty.
[23:56] <EgyParadox> Datz: I apologize
[23:57] <Datz> no problem Egy
[23:57] <glebihan> EgyParadox, btw why did you give him a link about vsftpd when he said he had troubles with grub ?
[23:58] <Datz> glebihan: I was asking about ftp accounts earlier
[23:58] <ionite> can anyone help me with this? Fetched 522 kB in 3min 22s (2,583 B/s) W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/id.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch  W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/id.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[23:58] <glebihan> EgyParadox, Datz ok sorry didn't  see that
[23:58] <Datz> I use sftp, but wordpress suddenly wants to use ftp to upload.. :)
[23:58] <EgyParadox> Datz> Hi, do I have to set up a user for ftp or will already added users automatically be able to use ftp with their accounts?
[23:59] <Datz> I think all I need to do is open port 21
[23:59] <paulo> I'm a really pain in the ass but I have to ask some one to help me. I have a ASUS A6 and I'm not been capable to run wireless connection. I already read the topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223503 but I really don’t understand it . I'm newby by cocomplete. Can anyone help me?
[23:59] <zteam> OmegaForte, good to know, my point wasn't that just ffmpeg was hard to compile, but generally that compiling a package *can be* both time consuming and somewhat hard even if you are quite experienced even with programming
[23:59] <szal> ionite: sudo apt-get update, then repeat
[23:59] <glebihan> EgyParadox, I must be tired... I saw that and even answered to it...
[23:59] <Datz> hehe :)