[00:10] <Andy80> a very noob question: is this command right to find every occurance in every file? andrea@ubuntu:~/Documents/sviluppo/unity-2d$ grep -r 'gconf_client_get_bool'
[05:16] <didrocks> good morning
[07:03] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:13] <fhein> mornin'
[07:50] <hyperair> ronoc: ping
[07:51] <ronoc> hyperair, hi
[07:51] <hyperair> ronoc: there's this ancient bug i forgot about to do with banshee and unity quicklists.
[07:51] <ronoc> hyperair, ok, what is it
[07:51] <hyperair> 764321
[07:51] <hyperair> bug #764321
[07:51] <hyperair> heh, what a nice number.
[07:52] <hyperair> we're just missing a 5. =p
[07:54] <ronoc> hyperair, :) ok, I'll talk to the unity guys later about this.
[07:54]  * ronoc needs to switch distro
[07:54] <hyperair> ronoc: thanks
[07:54] <ronoc> brb
[07:54] <hyperair> ronoc: iirc the bug's just waiting for an ack about whether or not it's a good idea. there's a patch already.
[08:38] <cyrildz1> Hi Guy
[08:38] <cyrildz1> it that possible to have a quicklist entry for an empty Area on the Launcher ?
[08:40] <cyrildz1> I'm thinking about showing options for the launcher when someone clicks on an empty area on the launcher
[08:40] <ephan> You mean like a context-menu?
[08:41] <ephan> When someone right clicks empty space?
[08:41] <ephan> I'd like that, but sorry I don't know if it's possible
[08:46] <cyrildz1> yeah, I mean like a context menu
[08:51] <cyrildz3> since CCSM allows us more options for setting the launcher, I was thinking about a quicklist or context menu  that would allow us to change those setting from the launcher itself
[09:27] <stylesen> dbarth: njpatel: ping?
[09:34] <olzhas> hey guys
[09:34] <olzhas> how can I set icon of the indicator by GdkPixBuf
[09:34] <olzhas> ?
[09:37] <Andy80> hi
[09:40] <olzhas> I'm using new libappindicator
[09:40] <olzhas> natty
[09:43] <olzhas> I have an idea to save generated icon on a harddrive and then load it
[09:47] <cyrildz3> Is there a way to locate an Empty Space on the Launcher ?
[10:59] <fontanon> Hi everybody,
[10:59] <fontanon> Is there a guide explaining best practices integrating a GTKStatusIcon-based app on Application-indicators ??
[11:02] <fontanon> i.e. is better to migrate gtkstatusicon object to appindicator or to add it to the whitelist gsettings option?
[11:40] <njpatel> fontanon, better to migrate, could I ask what your app is indicating through the statusicon?
[11:41] <njpatel> fontanon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators is the link with some code examples too
[11:44] <fontanon> njpatel: this is the app http://live.gnome.org/Wiican
[11:45] <njpatel> fontanon, ah, awesome :)
[11:45] <fontanon> njpatel: the statusicon indicates whether wiimote could be used or not because of the presence of a bluetooth adaptor
[11:45] <fontanon> njpatel: it also bright at some intervals when the wiimote is connected and in use
[11:45] <njpatel> mpt, is this someing that could go into ronoc_'s menu? ^ (if not, where's the best place?)
[11:46] <fontanon> ronoc_'s menu ?? never heard about that!
[11:46] <njpatel> fontanon, so, an appindicator would work pretty much perfectly for that (and libappindicator fallsback to statusicon if the current desktop doesn't have apindicator support, i.e. shell or xfce)
[11:46] <njpatel> fontanon, heh, sorry, he's got a hardware/system menu that seems like a good fit
[11:46] <fontanon> really !! it auto-fallsback ?
[11:47] <njpatel> fontanon, appindicator, yes, I'm like 99% certain :)
[11:47] <njpatel> fontanon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Custom_Fallbacks
[11:47] <mpt> njpatel, I agree a standalone menu makes sense for that
[11:47] <njpatel> sweet
[11:48] <mpt> Ideally the settings would go into gnome-control-center, but ... well ... upstream ...
[11:48] <njpatel> yeah :)
[11:48] <njpatel> fontanon, I hope that helps, seems like appindicator is the way to go
[11:49] <fontanon> njpatel, mpt how can this affect for wiican being used under gnome3.0 ?
[11:50] <njpatel> fontanon, libappindicator detects where there is a appindicator service, if it doesn't exist, then it just takes your Gtk.Menu and creates a Gtk.StatusIcon from it (using the other things you set too i.e. icon)
[11:50] <fontanon> I've to confirm but i think appindicator is not allowed as dependency for apps willing to be considered as gnome3 module
[11:50] <njpatel> heh, not getting into that :)
[11:51] <njpatel> fontanon, in that case it can be an optional dep in your code
[11:51] <fontanon> i've seen that for tomboy there's a patch at debian-packaging level for turning it into an appindicator-supported app
[11:53] <njpatel> yeah, though ideally it would be upstream
[11:54] <njpatel> tomboy case is harder as appindicator doesn't have the functionality it enjoys from statusicon
[11:54] <njpatel> but your menu should be the same with both
[11:56] <fontanon> Ok, njpatel mpt thank you both guys!
[11:56] <fontanon> I'll start with a appindicator-migration branch for wiican, then decide the best way to integrate it into the master
[11:56] <mpt> fontanon, you're welcome, it looks like a cool project
[11:56] <njpatel> np dude
[11:57] <fontanon> mpt: thank you :)
[11:58] <ronoc_> ronoc_'s menu here
[11:58] <mpt> ronoc_, I'd like the soup of the day, with bread, then the tuna lasagna
[11:59] <ronoc_> mpt, coming right up !
[12:57] <Andy80> Kaleo: hi :) I'm trying to read this value (I'm modifying Unity-2D code, of course) "/apps/nautilus/preferences/confirm_trash" and I don't know if I've to use gconf, gsetting, QConf or GConfItemQmlWrapper. I asked to nerochiaro already but we're both a bit confused about the proper method to use. Can you please point me to the right one and, if possible, an example of how to use it? Thanks :)
[13:00] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: yeah, looks like you left over both code and dependencies for gconf, but you're using dconf almost anywhere
[13:10] <Andy80> btw I'll use QConf for the moment... I'll test it asap
[13:16] <Kaleo> Andy80, nerochiaro: if nautilus is using gconf, then use gconf, if nautilus is using gsettings/dconf then use dconf
[13:18] <Andy80> Kaleo, nerochiaro : I don't know what Nautilus is using... I checked the Unity code (I'm fixing a similar bug that was fixed already in Unity: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/730003 ) and it's using gconf.... why I cannot read a gconf value with QConf? isn't it a wrapper?
[13:19] <nerochiaro> Andy: Qconf is a wrapper for dconf. GConfItemQmlWrapper is a wrapper for gconf
[13:19] <nerochiaro> Andy80: ^
[13:21] <Kaleo> Andy80: GConfItemQmlWrapper is whan you want to use
[13:22] <Andy80> Kaleo: ok... let's change it again :) (3rd time I modify the code :P ) where can I find an example of GConfItemQmlWrapper? I grep-ed all the unity-2d code but I didn't find anything except this: ./libunity-2d-private/src/launcherapplicationslist.h:class GConfItemQmlWrapper;
[13:23] <Kaleo> Andy80: I don't think there is example of use in there anymore
[13:23] <Kaleo> Andy80: but in the code of GConfItemQmlWrapper you will find an example
[13:23] <Kaleo> Andy80: bzr branch lp:gconf-qt
[13:23] <Kaleo> Andy80: see test.cpp and test.qml
[13:24] <Andy80> Kaleo: ok, let me check...
[13:26] <Andy80> Kaleo: uhm... it looks like there is only the QML example... and it's quite different from using C++. Is it possible that nobody has still used this class yet? there should be an example out there if someone has...
[13:28] <nerochiaro> Andy80: i explained to you how to use it in PM, no ?
[13:28] <Andy80> nerochiaro: right.... sorry :P
[13:29] <nerochiaro> Andy80: don't worry. it's really easy to use anyway, just play with it for a bit and if you still can't get it to work just ping me
[17:18] <lone_house> hi
[18:29] <ephan> hey, going to try and build Unity from source now
[18:30] <ephan> Binaries plus source occupies how much? Around how much*
[18:32] <jcastro> ephan: jason says ~20mb
[18:32] <ephan> Thanks jcastro :)
[18:34] <ephan> jcastro, which reminds me, sudo apt-get source unity installs all dependencies, right? (or most of them)
[18:35] <jcastro> ephan: I happen to be doing it now
[18:35] <jcastro> I am updating the deps as we speak
[18:35] <jcastro> give me like 5 more minutes
[18:35] <ephan> Ok, thanks, I will download Unity source in the meanwhile
[18:40] <jcastro> sudo apt-get install bzr cmake compiz-dev gnome-common libbamf-dev \
[18:40] <jcastro> libboost-dev libboost-serialization-dev libcairo2-dev libdbusmenu-glib-dev \
[18:40] <jcastro> libdee-dev libgconf2-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libglew1.5-dev \
[18:40] <jcastro> libglewmx1.5-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtest-dev libindicator-dev \
[18:40] <jcastro> libpango1.0-dev libpci-dev libpcre3-dev libpng12-dev libsigc++-2.0-dev \
[18:42] <ephan> thank you jcastro, installing
[19:24] <jcastro> Kaleo: around?
[22:07] <fontanon> Hi everybody
[22:11] <fontanon> Has anyone realized of crashes importing appindicator and gi.repository.Gtk or GObject on a same python app ?
[22:20] <fontanon> /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:40: Warning: specified class size for type `PyGtkGenericCellRenderer' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkCellRenderer' class size
[22:20] <fontanon> when importing appindicator after gi.repository.Gtk
[22:20] <fontanon> why is it linking with gtk-2.0 ?