[00:00] raevin: asked in #cplusplus ? [00:00] jmichaelx: you did all the mv and rm in a console, out of kde, right? [00:00] Daskreech: didn't know that channel existed o.o on freenode? [00:00] jmichaelx: all of them? [00:01] gomiboy: yes [00:01] jmichaelx: ok, it's officially strange... :) [00:02] Daskreech: all of them what? all of the reasons? [00:02] all of your settings? [00:02] You have nothing saved? [00:02] Daskreech: i have nothing saved. yes, that was a mistake. what i do not get is why everything is gone. [00:03] jmichaelx: ok what's in the current ~/.kde ? [00:05] Daskreech: i am not sure what to say, basically the things you would normally expect to find in a newly generated .kde [00:05] jmichaelx: ... can you check that you didn't copy it to ~/kde ? [00:06] Daskreech: i didn't, and i can scrol back to where i entered the command, and i entered it correctly [00:07] .o0(might be why I always use cp to restore a backup) [00:07] jmichaelx: out of curiousity can you paste the command that you used to move it back? [00:07] Daskreech: lol... i am not ruling out personal error just yet === MK is now known as Guest93997 [00:08] :-) [00:10] Daskreech: the command i entered was: 'mv .kde-old .kde' [00:10] in ~ [00:10] yes, in ~ [00:10] Daskreech: and i see my problem.... there is a .kde-old IN .kde [00:11] jmichaelx: Tada :) [00:11] whew [00:11] Daskreech: except, this is not what i would have expected [00:12] jmichaelx: :-) Think about it. what happens when you put a file into a directory ? [00:12] Daskreech: i have a feeling that since i had not killed kdm, a new .kde was being generated at the same time i was mv'ing .kde-old to .kde [00:12] Daskreech: yes... but i had just rm -rf'd .kde [00:13] before i mv'd .kde-old to .kde [00:13] I thought that's what you had said [00:14] it's likely that might have been what happened. I normally just service stop kdm [00:14] Daskreech: yea, that was the important step i had skipped [00:14] :-) [00:14] jmichaelx: ready to try again? [00:14] lol, yep [00:17] Daskreech: i have been doing all of this to get to the bottom of why these task manager icons do not go away as they should, when the associated window is closed [00:17] I heard today someone is having the same problem on arch [00:19] Daskreech: i have a third machine that went through the same upgrade, and it is not having this problem. the greatest difference between the machines with the problem, and the one without is the CPU. the two with the problem have dual-core atom CPUs. the one without has a core 2 quad. [00:20] that would be a strange bug [00:20] jmichaelx: I presume you have asked in #plasma ? [00:21] Daskreech: it would, and i assume the CPU is completely irrelevant, but since both of the machines with this problem have the same CPU, it does enter the mind [00:21] jmichaelx: it's an interesting point. Both Atom you say? [00:21] no, i was not even aware of the existance of #plasma [00:21] Daskreech: yes, both atom d525 [00:25] hi everyone i'm running on atom should i use KDE or XFCE? [00:25] Whichever you like? [00:25] well netbook is underpowered so would running on KDE be too taxing and laggy? [00:26] Not that bad you can scale KDE down to something you can deal with [00:26] and KDE 4.7 is much more optimized [00:39] Daskreech: why should i use KDE instead of XFCE? what are the pros and cons? [00:42] ionite: I'll start off by saying that I'm heavily in favour of KDE so don't expect unbiased lists :) [00:42] Daskreech: noted since i'm in KDE channel. lolx [00:43] ionite: KDE is far more full featured and has an underlying shared technology so you can do things like watch movies in the image viewer without it taking up any more space (less actually) than having dedicated applications for both [00:44] Daskreech: how easy it is to disable features to run on netbook? considering i'm an idoit to ubuntu? [00:48] Daskreech: where did you discover that someone in arch was experiencing a problem similar to mine? [00:49] plasma is pretty flexible (not making any claims it's more so than xfce) [00:50] It has a netbook mode [00:50] Should auto detect and run in netbook mode [00:50] jmichaelx: #kde [00:50] ahh, ty [00:50] Daskreech: so u'll run a scale down version? [00:51] Daskreech: my netbook is preinstalled with netbook remix. should i replace with KDE? [00:51] i run kde on nearly everything, but my dell mini 9 is still running lucid+UNR [00:52] i have been considering giving kde a whirl on it... i've used both xfce and lxde in the past [00:53] ionite: You can if you like.. you can just apt-get install [00:54] jmichaelx: Up to you :) [00:54] !Info kubuntu-netbook | ionite [00:54] i am thinking that with kde, you might at least want to disable file-indexing and akonadi-relate services [00:55] can i use touch screen on ubuntu? [00:55] jmichaelx: so what's ur conclusion? KDE or XFCE for netbook? [00:56] ionite: try it, like it or don't, then decide [00:56] Problem after bootup OS. Sometimes the desktop opens showing apps on left side--othertimes desktop shows pulldown menu upper left. Problem, some apps don't operate correctly under the pulldown menu. Application is DraftSight [00:56] szal: it's such a pain to update now and if i were to reinstall it would be the same painful thing again. [00:57] maum: yes [00:57] Daskreech, how can I use touch function? [00:57] maum: by touching? [00:57] Daskreech, Should I install touch driver? [00:59] maum: I don't know what device you have but I would guess most should work [00:59] anyone undestand my problem? [00:59] Problem after bootup OS. Sometimes the desktop opens showing apps on left side--othertimes desktop shows pulldown menu upper left. Problem, some apps don't operate correctly under the pulldown menu. Application is DraftSight [00:59] Daskreech, There is only touch driver for window not ubuntu. [01:00] maum: that's possible. [01:00] fosburg: Do you ahve a screenshot I'm not following [01:00] !info draftsight [01:00] Package draftsight does not exist in natty [01:00] I also don't know what draftsight is [01:00] Daskreech, Can you help me to set up touch driver? [01:01] No on the screen shot [01:01] maum: I don't know. What are you trying to setup? [01:02] fosburg: Draftsight doesn't operate under the drop down menu? [01:02] Naum that is correct [01:02] Daskreech, in order to active touch screen, I think I have to do something else... do you know that? [01:03] fosburg: Does it work when the apps are on the left side ? [01:03] Naum--why would the OS open up on the desktop two different ways? [01:03] yes [01:03] fosburg: I don't know there could be a number of reasons. You have multiple desktops installed or different profiles [01:04] maum: Haven't looked at that so I'm not sure what might be required. Far as I know it should just work if you have a driver. If you don't have a driver thats' different [01:05] Yes--windows still works I can select Ubuntu or windows at startup [01:05] Daskreech, I don't have a driver and the model is VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2) [01:06] maum: That's an output device not an input device [01:07] Daskreech, how can I check the input device? [01:07] It would be the screen. but easier just to say what device you are using [01:07] a laptop with touch screen? [01:09] Daskreech, brand name is samsung..? [01:10] Daskreech, Model code is DM-U350_PA35 [01:11] Tablet? [01:11] Daskreech, I think so [01:11] Daskreech, a kink of all in one system. [01:12] Ah ok [01:18] Does seem a little hard to find information on it [01:18] Daskreech, ok [01:20] maum: I'm trying to think of a good channel for you to ask more about that in [01:20] Daskreech, ok thanks [01:24] Daskreech, I heard touch screen is supported in ubuntu 11.04. so I installed ubuntu 11.04 a few month ago. but I didn't know how to active touch screen on ubuntu 11.04 [01:25] maum: #ubuntu-devel would probably be a good place to ask [01:26] Daskreech, ok I see. [01:26] Really it is the kernel which should be #ubuntu-server but I don't think they will respond with as much interest as #ubuntu-devel [01:28] or #Ubuntu-touch === marco is now known as Guest66939 === jetx is now known as jetscreamer [01:53] how do i connect to a network printer? with KDE? [01:54] try http://localhost:631 [01:56] having stability issues [01:56] Daskreech: are there any softwares to help me connec to network printer? [01:57] Maybe. I haven't tried I just know that they pretty much all run through cups and that's the direct way to interact with CUPS [01:57] !printer [01:57] Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows [01:57] That's drivers stuff [01:58] I'm sure but I don't know which software helps you connect to it offhand other than CUPS [01:58] briandw1969: More details? [01:58] i installed 11.04 on a blank HD,now it shuts off without warning [01:59] sometimes its stays on for a while,sometimes it doesnt [01:59] Daskreech: u mean i just install cups and it'llbe fine? [02:02] it doesnt seem to follow any patterns [02:05] i dont know if a re-install would do any good or not [02:05] briandw1969: while you are using it? [02:05] yes [02:06] sometimes screen goes black,sometimes it reboots by itslef [02:08] is there error logs i can look at? [02:08] briandw1969: That sounds bad. have you checked the logs [02:08] ha [02:08] yes [02:08] thru terminal? [02:08] look in /var/log/dmesg.log [02:09] There is a Klog application [02:10] !info ksystemlog [02:10] ksystemlog (source: kdeadmin): system log viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 418 kB, installed size 952 kB [02:10] briandw1969: ^^^ [02:10] rut roh...file does not exsist [02:12] not resonding or it taking a while to lad [02:14] not good,klog crashed [02:15] loading debugs and sending report [02:20] how do u do the highlight thing in the room chat? [02:25] !tab [02:25] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [02:26] briandw1969: You have to install the application [02:26] [02:26] Hello [02:26] which one? [02:26] ksystemlog [02:26] its installed it just crashed :+( [02:27] Daskreech: hmn [02:27] damn it lol [02:27] briandw1969: run it from the command line [02:27] it will (should) say why it crashed [02:27] you can pastebin it [02:27] !pastebin [02:27] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:28] its generating bug report right now [02:28] briandw1969: ah [02:29] that doesn't help me though :) [02:32] system locked up [02:33] anyone know how to get a card to be recognized as input? lol...my onboard now isn't being detected by kmixer as capture device [02:35] pavucontrol shows m ycard buto nly when i choose "monitor" or "show all" in the input devices tab [02:36] sent u some info Daskreech [02:37] briandw1969_: can you pastebin that? [02:38] briandw1969_: can you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ? [02:39] will try [02:40] i have it in pastebin [02:40] now what [02:41] paste the url here [02:41] copy and paste it here [02:41] 1 [02:41] 2 [02:41] 3 [02:41] 4 [02:41] 5 [02:41] briandw1969: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:41] 6 [02:43] ok,im not use to IRC [02:43] sorry [02:45] Hmm [02:45] did it again [02:47] its not giving me a url for pastebin i just did [03:14] well, afte a crap ton of work finally got my mic fixed for hte most part :D [03:14] <3 alsamixer === pill is now known as Guest30350 [04:07] j [05:24] when we right click on the desktop, can we include a new item by changing any config file?? [05:25] im quite new to kde [06:01] is this a right place I can ask about kde widget style ? [06:04] why is that the "configure" setting for QtCurve is missing in KDE widget style ? [07:00] anyone seen a howto on removing nvidia propriatary drivers and replace them with nouveau? [07:02] every day im having 100% cpu and system freeze with nvidia drivers. [07:04] !find nouveau [07:04] Found: libdrm-nouveau1a, libdrm-nouveau1a-dbg, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg, nouveau-firmware [07:05] !find nvidia [07:05] Found: nvidia-common, nvidia-settings, nvidia-173, nvidia-173-dev, nvidia-173-kernel-source, nvidia-180-kernel-source, nvidia-180-libvdpau, nvidia-180-libvdpau-dev, nvidia-185-kernel-source, nvidia-185-libvdpau (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all [07:06] so just apt-get purge nvidia and install noveau? [07:22] ussher__: NO! There's a tool for that. Just use jockey. It's in the menu. (text based version is jockey-text). What are your issues exactly? bug 760632 ? In that case, use the driver from the x-swat. [07:22] Launchpad bug 760632 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Resizing Konsole crashes the whole system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760632 [07:23] ok, I reinstalled the system, did an upgrade to KDE4.7 and the experimental final kmail. Now I can receive mails, but not see any in the list. Moreover, each folder contains 1 mail according to kmail. Still, the list is empty. Any hints? === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy === etriaph is now known as Erthe [09:45] I am trying to fix a few things in my current color scheme in KDE. I think it is too difficult to see the difference between active and inactive tabs. Which color do I need to change to make the active one brighter? Example of the current situation is here: http://i.imgur.com/5XiT2.png (Konsole tabs). The IRC tab is the one that is active in the above, however, this is very difficult to see. [09:45] ok, fixed that by changing a parameter in the postgresql config. The next problem will be harder: the system is unresponsive while multiple cores are working on the mails. [09:46] Start akonadi/nepomuk/kmail -> load goes to 3.5 [10:25] can i upgrade from my netbook remix to either XFCE or KDE? [10:33] ionite: later versions of kde have both the netbook and full versions installed... you can switch between them by going to system settings > Workspace Behaviour > Workspace > and change "Workspace type" [10:33] ionite: you can also install xfce or any other desktop enviroment alongside kde === gaetan is now known as Guest65607 [11:03] If I hover over a .jpg file, the preview shows a 'play' button and a slider. Why is it expecting .jpg files to be movies? === atom is now known as Guest97734 [11:09] hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut for performing selection paste (like middle mouse click does)? [11:14] accolade: dont think so... but you can tell klipper to sync the contents of the clipboard and the selection [11:17] James147: that's an acceptalbe workaround, thanks! [11:38] how do i remove gmusic browser? [11:38] through kpackagekit? [11:39] alt+f2 -> kpackagekit -> look for gmusic browser [11:39] what do i type in the run line? [11:40] it keeps repeating the same segment whenever my system is running @ full capacity. [11:40] it's like a broken record [11:41] have you ever installed software [11:42] just go where you usually install software, look for your gmusic and uninstall it [11:44] test [12:01] Hiyas all [12:03] moin BluesKaj [12:04] hi szal [12:04] BluesKaj: do you have machines w/ a legacy nVidia card? I believe I remember you saying something along these lines [12:04] hi, how to switch ati card powerstates manually? I use proprietary driver [12:07] szal, i have a nvidia 7600gt on my other linuxbox and a 8400gs on this one, I suppose the 7600 could be regarded as legacy but the nvidia-current driver works fine on it [12:08] BluesKaj: nah, GF7 is not yet legacy [12:09] BluesKaj: although one could assume that GF6 and 7 are next in line for product EOL [12:09] well, it's a bit old . legacy obviously means no longer supported by proprietary or open source drivers [12:10] "legacy" in this case means no longer supported by the current driver [12:10] no idea whether nouveau will tackle the oldest nVidia cards, but nVidia's own legacy options go back to GF2 [12:12] you could say: current = 270 (as shipped w/ Natty)/280 (as available via PPA); legacy = 173 (for GeForce FX); old-legacy = 96 (for GF3 and 4); even-older-legacy = 71 (for GF2) [12:13] and afaics the 173 and the 96 still get security updates, the 71 is just there but no more support for it [12:14] I run the 280 , more stable with kde 4.7 than the 270 [12:15] as you weren't there last night when I got an answer to my question, let yourself be told that for running KDE 4.7 on a machine w/ a GF FX or older, you need to either use the nouveau driver or disable compositing [12:16] (didn't test w/ nouveau yet, that's my assumption, but w/ the binary blob you need to disable compositing or else you get no desktop) [12:18] seems nouveau is the default for nvidia on Oneiric , with no desktop effects available , and installing the 275 current driver is risky ..dependency hell can be the result , and one must blacklist the nouveau [12:19] installing the nVidia driver should blacklist nouveau anyway [12:19] it doesn't [12:20] on Oneiric at least [12:20] the install .sh from nvidia.com does (no idea about Oneiric here, but last I used it (openSUSE 11.4) it did [12:20] ) [12:22] yes well that's a given , but if you're considering Onreiric then .... [12:23] I won't consider Oneiric before it's out :) [12:24] i d/l Unetbootin linux version. how do i open the file? [12:41] ionite: depends on what the file is... but why not use the repos and install it the offical way? [12:42] James147: i'm preparing for my netbook. it's running on netbook remix but i'm intending to make it a KDE [12:43] ionite: ^^ why do you need unetbootin to switch form the netbook version to the desktop version?... the later version of kubuntu have them both installed and try to auto detect which you want (though yuo can manually change to the other if you want) [12:44] James147: clean install maybe? u mean i can upgrade to KDE from my netboon remix OS? [12:44] ionite: also... that dosnt answer my question... why not install it form the repos rather then downloading it manually? [12:44] ionite, yes, as I told you earlier [12:45] James147: i'm a noob to ubuntu, so many things i'm doing the 'Windows' way. [12:45] James147: bazhang how do i go about? [12:45] ionite: there is nothing to upgrade... the netbook and desktop is just a different interface ontop of the same system... System Settings > Workspace behaviour > Workspace and change the desktop type to "desktop" [12:45] ionite, upgrade to 11.04 then install the kubuntu-desktop package, if you wish to remove gnome then purekde links [12:46] !purekde | ionite please read this time [12:46] ionite please read this time: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [12:46] * James147 assumed he was talking about the kde netbook version... :S [12:47] how do i install windows type proggies on kubuntu [12:47] James147, yeah, he was crossposting in #ubuntu , using the UNE [12:47] briandw1969, with wine [12:47] ionite: then do what bazhang said :p [12:47] !appdb | briandw1969 check here first [12:47] briandw1969 check here first: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [12:47] James147: if experience teaches us one thing, then it's: don't assume, always make sure ^^ [12:47] bazhang: even ^^ [12:47] Xvideo [12:48] szal: yeah... but sometimes its like drawing blood from a stone :p [12:48] briandw1969, for what [12:48] xvidseup,for web cam [12:48] briandw1969, no need. [12:49] briandw1969, wine does not work with hardware, ask in #winehq [12:49] oh [12:50] briandw1969: most webcams should just work with kubuntu... and if not then you need to find the right drivers for it not just use the windows ones [12:51] i can find drivers,but not sure how to install them [12:51] briandw1969, check the supported webcam list first [12:51] * James147 dosnt look encourged by the number of virus/malware links he gets when googling "xvidseup" [12:51] !webcam | briandw1969 check here [12:51] briandw1969 check here: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [12:52] k,its a laptop cam,if it matters [12:52] nope [12:52] check the list [12:52] * James147 finds that laptop cams tend to work better with linux... [12:52] as in ... they tend to jsut work [12:53] dont see toshiba in the list [12:54] try cheese then [12:54] briandw1969: what makes you think it dosnt work [12:54] ? [12:54] webcam drivers tend to be generic [12:55] cant find where to turn it on [12:55] ^^ also thats make of webcam not make of laptop [12:55] or the reverse [12:55] right [12:55] briandw1969, using what application [12:56] it seems to work with messengers,but just cant find the on switch lol [12:56] as in it starts up [12:57] cheese? [12:57] using which application [12:57] briandw1969: install cheese and test with that... it will tell you if the cam is working or not [12:58] !info cheese [12:58] cheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 62 kB, installed size 260 kB [12:58] cheese a terminal cmd? [12:58] no, an application [12:58] its an application [12:59] briandw1969, install by tyerminal or package manager . makes little differencs [12:59] found it [12:59] hi, 11.04, works fine the live cd, but I've installed and was not able to have the screen work... it shows the initial screen (or grub menu) but then it becomes black and never get the image [13:00] there is a really small line on the upper left, nothing more [13:00] I've intel 4000 video [13:01] Kernel modules: i915 [13:01] that works,now one more question if u have time [13:02] briandw1969, as many as you wish, no limit of bandwidth on irc [13:02] its about kmixer [13:02] long story short i had to do complete 11.04 on my toshiba [13:03] complete what [13:03] install,sorry [13:04] i cant get external speakers to shut off when trying to do headphones [13:04] b right back [13:07] back [13:10] dmesg [drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id [13:13] Looks familiar [13:19] bazhang: any ideas? [13:23] I'm trying linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae... wondering why -pae version has been installed for this 32 bit kubuntu [13:23] if I would have needed more ram addressing, I would have choose 64 bit version [13:24] * markit depressed [13:26] markit: why, is there anything wrong w/ the PAE kernel? [13:26] markit: other than that, you might want to update your system, -8 is not the current kernel [13:30] how do i set EXE file as executable in XFCE? [13:31] ionite_: you don't [13:31] ionite_, same as in #ubuntu , your questions here [13:31] .exe files are Windows executables & don't run (natively) on Linx [13:31] !crosspost | ionite_ [13:31] ionite_: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [13:32] hey bazhang [13:32] bazhang: i asked many times because i didn't get answered. [13:32] ionite_, this was already asked and answered for you [13:32] ionite_, sure it was. just like the earlier issue [13:32] bazhang: it can't run. [13:33] !work | ionite_ [13:33] ionite_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [13:33] ionite_, /join #winehq <---- step 1 [13:34] ionite_, check the appdb step 2 [13:34] !appdb | ionite_ [13:34] ionite_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [13:36] any ideas on kmixer? [13:36] briandw1969: what's the issue? [13:37] cant get external speakers to turn off when using audio jack [13:38] briandw1969: have you changed the master mixer? [13:38] in which way? [13:41] briandw1969: using the non-external speakers for the master one?? [13:41] this is assuming you have multiple soundcards [13:41] What are the chances of Adobe 64-bit Flash being ready in time for Kubuntu 11.10? a) zero, b) no hope, c) not likely, d) 0.0019% [13:41] szal: I had -10 and got this problem, since installation kubuntu has -8 I guess, I tried the older, but SAME problem [13:42] I'm very depressed :( same hardware with 10.10 worked fine [13:42] looking [13:42] it has a dvi output, but I have to use analog monitor, so I use an adapter [13:42] I'll boot live again and see what kernel is in use [13:43] IF is a kernel problem [13:43] (I can ssh in the system, if someone has some suggestion...) [13:43] maybe this is the bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22674 [13:43] Freedesktop bug 22674 in DRM/Intel "[855GM KMS] Screen powers down w/i915 as module and DRM_I915_KMS since commit e4a5d54f" [Normal,Resolved: notabug] [13:43] but is so old... [13:43] and is "not a bug" lol [13:44] i cant find where to set headphone/external [13:44] Realmkeeper, flashworks fine on 11.10 , just install kubnuntu retricted-extras , or if necessary flashplugin-installer [13:44] BluesKaj: Didn't work on mine... :/ [13:44] !restricted [13:44] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [13:45] Realmkeeper: flash 64bit won't be in the archive until adobe marks it as final. I'm running flash 11 beta1 fine here though on 64bit [13:45] Realmkeeper, what didn't work ? [13:45] and *usually* 32bit + nspluginwrapper works too [13:45] how can I add a parameter to the kernel before booting? [13:46] BluesKaj: Flash 64-bit beta; nor the restricted extras. === NoName is now known as Guest9683 [13:46] uhmm beta why did you use that ? [13:47] yofel: I tried the beta Flash, but it didn't work. [13:47] yofel: I'm finding the 64bit Flash 11 beta continually crashing here [13:47] funny, not for me [13:48] BluesKaj: I tried the beta only as a last resort, after restricted extras, gnash, etc... [13:48] Hm. < goes and tries something > [13:48] gnash , that's been broken for ages [13:49] Yes, by gnash did work for me when other things didn't... though, that was a while back. [13:50] So annoying that one company is making me consider going back to 32-bit on a 64-bit computer. [13:51] Realmkeeper, it may not be flash itself ..what about your graphics driver? [13:52] the graphics driver seems to be installed fine. [13:52] When I use 32-bit liveCDs, there is no problem. [13:53] maybe installed fine , but how is it behaving? [13:53] BluesKaj: As in? Does the screen flicker? No. [13:54] crashing other graphics heavy content like hd movies etc [13:54] Plays hd movies just fine. [13:58] Realmkeeper, did you purge the beta flash? [14:02] BluesKaj: It's not on my system, but I can't remember if I purged it or just removed it. [14:02] Slack, I know. === mig is now known as Guest30531 [14:04] hey [14:04] Realmkeeper, the idea of purging is to rid the system of config files , so the same behaviour doesn't repeat [14:04]