[12:12] <benji> gary_poster: I happened upon something reading my feeds last night that tied into our discussion yesterday: http://leanandkanban.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/demings-14-points/
[12:13] <gary_poster> benji, heh, Francis gave me that same post.  Great minds....  Yeah, it is good.
[12:13] <benji> heh
[12:31] <gary_poster> bac benji danilos call rsn
[12:31] <danilos> ack
[12:31] <bac> a-ok
[12:32] <bac> sorry, i'm in the echo chamber again this morning:  http://instagr.am/p/JZQKy/?ref=nf
[12:49] <danilos> gary_poster, looking at verify_pofile_stats.py, it seems the fix would be trivial
[12:50] <gary_poster> danilos, cool!  You want to take it to up your critical bug count (sounds like an RPG stat), or do you want to coach someone?  up to you
[12:51] <danilos> gary_poster, heh, I'm fine with either, and I don't think any coaching is needed: move one line fetching a template from after DBLoopTuner.run() to be before it (not sure how to test for "LP tree has just disappeared on you", though)
[12:52] <gary_poster> heh
[12:52] <danilos> gary_poster, I'll take it then
[12:52] <gary_poster> ok danilos, cool
[14:21] <danilos> oh, only now I notice my office computer is back on the internet, good choice coming back home instead of waiting for internet to come to the office :)
[14:30] <danilos> gary_poster, re your recent questions about "cold cache" timeout bugs, do you think we should just run with the "cold-cache" bug tag or something? bug 811447 in particular looks to be the victim of that (last seen OOPS is on qastaging with a time of 9s or so)
[14:30] <_mup_> Bug #811447: BugTask:+index timeout - death by sql in PersonSubscriptions(user, bug) <timeout> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by danilo> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/811447 >
[14:32] <danilos> (that was not in progress, I had a brainfart and marked that bug instead of 810116 :/
[14:35] <gary_poster> danilos, sure sounds like a plan
[14:37] <danilos> gary_poster, not sure how much of a plan it is, but these are especially hard (as you noted in your email to list)
[14:38] <danilos> gary_poster, basically, the metric is going to be "does not time out on either staging or qastaging"
[14:55] <gary_poster> danilos, my plan is "ignore until unavolidable"
[14:56] <danilos> gary_poster, right, though I seem to be wrong about 810116: the query seems to be slow only for that user, I got a >100s run time on staging (cold caches, 2.7s warm caches)
[14:56] <danilos> uhm, not 810116 but 811447
[14:56] <gary_poster> huh weird
[14:58] <danilos> gary_poster, probably not weird, that person is a member of a bunch of teams that might be subscribed to the bug, whereas we are not
[14:58] <gary_poster> ah
[14:59] <danilos> gary_poster, query for me on staging is 0.7s cold, 170ms warm
[14:59] <danilos> gary_poster, "for me" == when I substitute my own user ID
[15:02] <gary_poster> so a non-cold bug agreed.  I suggest you note on bug if you don't tackle
[15:12] <danilos> gary_poster, right, I will
[15:13] <danilos> gary_poster, likely related to person being in a team ubuntu-bugs which is subscribed to 50-60 of the 450 duplicates
[15:17] <gary_poster> heh
[15:26] <bac> benji: i just got suggestions on linking a branch for the first time.  very cool!
[15:27] <benji> bac: cool!  I just wish the search was faster, that would make it much nicer.
[15:27] <bac> it's faster than i can type
[15:29] <benji> :)
[16:28] <gary_poster> bac, going to lunch, but https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/launchpad/bug821487 I think will be fast and easy, when you have a moment
[17:32] <bac> gary_poster: just back from lunch and will look at it now
[17:36] <bac> gary_poster: done
[18:12] <gary_poster> thank you bac.
[18:13] <bac> np
[21:36] <bac> gary_poster: sorry if i waded into that discussion and made things worse
[21:37] <gary_poster> bac, np, I thought you said good stuff.  maybe I was too prickly.  I just have heard that all before from him, so its a rehashed conversation.  and maybe it's the end of the week, I dunno. :-P
[21:37] <gary_poster> s/its/it's/
[21:37] <bac> yeah, i got the impression the discussion had some history to it
[21:38] <gary_poster> :-)
[21:38] <bac> have a good weekend
[21:39] <gary_poster> you too bac