| kenvandine | czajkowski, unfortunately it is the most generic kind of bug report :/ | 00:04 |
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| RAOF | Gah. Is gtk-window-decorator eating large amounts of memory (on the order of 1GB of swap and hundreds of megabytes resident) for anyone else? | 02:28 |
| TheMuso | Its stuff like that that concerns me re 3D/DX's work. | 02:36 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:15 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Good morning! | 05:26 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF! How are you? | 05:27 |
| RAOF | Sitting in front of the fire with a grey and rainy day outside. | 05:27 |
| RAOF | It's pretty nice :) | 05:27 |
| didrocks | heh, enjoying winter? :) | 05:29 |
| RAOF | Even better, I think it's possible that the many and varied bugs which made this i7 laptop entirely useless on oneiric have been squashed. | 05:29 |
| TheMuso | Morning didrocks. | 05:30 |
| didrocks | hey TheMuso | 05:31 |
| didrocks | RAOF: waow, so even a good day? :) | 05:31 |
| RAOF | Yeah. It's nice to be on a system which builds mesa in 15ish minutes. | 05:32 |
| RAOF | If it proves to be stable, I might even throw the SSD in here too :). | 05:33 |
| bschaefer | didrocks: Morning, I sent you the new patch at your ubuntu.com email (not sure which one you prefer) | 05:39 |
| didrocks | bschaefer: yeah, saw that, I prefer ubuntu.com indeed, will push that to the ubuntu-desktop ppa! Thanks :) | 05:39 |
| bschaefer | didrocks: no problem, let me know if anything unexpected happens! | 05:41 |
| RAOF | didrocks: There's a shiny new wayland available for your MIRification. | 06:06 |
| didrocks | RAOF: that's MIRacoulus! :) please revert the MIR state if not already the case :) | 06:07 |
| RAOF | As in - set it to confirmed? Done. | 06:07 |
| * didrocks takes a new review | 06:14 | |
| didrocks | ok, changelog seems to please me :) | 06:14 |
| didrocks | let me recheck the copyright stuff | 06:15 |
| RAOF | Oh, and I'll send a patch upstream adding a COPYING.GPL-2 for wayland-scanner :) | 06:19 |
| didrocks | RAOF: is that me or is there still no COPYING/LICENCE file? | 06:19 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 06:19 |
| didrocks | also: | 06:20 |
| didrocks | License: X11 | 06:20 |
| didrocks | License: X11 | 06:20 |
| didrocks | one should be enough to rule them all :) | 06:20 |
| RAOF | It's a dep5 separate license stanza - both debian/* and wayland,protocol/* are under the X11 licence, so they each get a one-line License: X11 + a single full X11 license. | 06:21 |
| didrocks | oh, this is speced? | 06:22 |
| didrocks | first time I see that | 06:22 |
| RAOF | http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ | 06:22 |
| didrocks | normally, I put that only in the first one | 06:22 |
| RAOF | The relevant bit is the standalone license paragraph bit. | 06:23 |
| didrocks | RAOF: indeed, interesting | 06:23 |
| didrocks | thanks for that :) | 06:24 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure if only putting it in the first one is strictly speaking compliant with DEP5 ;) | 06:24 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I'm not sure we will have a compliant DEP5 parser one day ;-) | 06:24 |
| RAOF | There's already one floating around on debian-devel@, isn't there? | 06:24 |
| * RAOF seems to recall one, at least. | 06:24 | |
| didrocks | indeed, but we need to know what to pu in Format-Specification: | 06:25 |
| didrocks | there are two schools there, already ;) | 06:25 |
| RAOF | Hah. | 06:25 |
| didrocks | (the versionned or unversionned one) | 06:25 |
| didrocks | I like the one you put | 06:25 |
| didrocks | some other blocks on that and wants the versionned svn one | 06:25 |
| didrocks | (even with some unreachable url ;)) | 06:26 |
| RAOF | Now that DEP5 describes itself as stable I don't see why you wouldn't refer to that. | 06:26 |
| didrocks | agreed, but this is still under discussion :) | 06:26 |
| didrocks | (what should be there) | 06:26 |
| RAOF | Fair enough. | 06:26 |
| didrocks | and I agree with your approach, it's the one I use | 06:26 |
| RAOF | I'll just assume that the approach we use will end up winning, as it's clearly correct ;P | 06:27 |
| didrocks | ok, so COPYING/LICENSE missing, and we will be there | 06:27 |
| didrocks | all the rest is good :) | 06:27 |
| didrocks | RAOF: same do I :-) | 06:27 |
| didrocks | so* | 06:27 |
| didrocks | RAOF: just ping me once you can upload a version with the right copying, I'll trust you and push it away even while being in the desktop summit | 06:28 |
| didrocks | (just change the bug status) | 06:28 |
| RAOF | So I need to add a copy of the GPL, then mark as... fix released? Fix committed? | 06:28 |
| didrocks | RAOF: just confirmed, I'll set then as fix committed as a "ack" | 06:29 |
| didrocks | and then, will mess with our servers to promote it | 06:29 |
| didrocks | copy some blablabla :) | 06:29 |
| didrocks | and set to fix released | 06:29 |
| RAOF | Funky. | 06:29 |
| RAOF | And then I can upload mesa. | 06:29 |
| didrocks | indeed ;) | 06:29 |
| didrocks | yeah, I try to enforce a sane workflow | 06:29 |
| didrocks | already happened being pinged between the ack and the actual promotion | 06:30 |
| didrocks | that way, I can track what I didn't finish | 06:30 |
| didrocks | or another archive admin can do the promotion | 06:30 |
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| RAOF | Cool. | 06:30 |
| didrocks | RAOF: so, this is to build some mesa modules depending on wayland, right? | 06:31 |
| didrocks | will be in a new package I guess? | 06:31 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Does the COPYING file need to be in the .orig.tar.gz, or can it be in the diff? | 06:31 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, RAOF what's the word on the street about A3? | 06:31 |
| didrocks | RAOF: ha hem, depends on our relationship with upstream ;) | 06:31 |
| didrocks | RAOF: normally no | 06:31 |
| didrocks | RAOF: if it's for a really short period of time, it's ok, even debian in the NEW queue accepts that | 06:31 |
| RAOF | didrocks: It's for the Wayland EGL platform; there won't be a new package for it, it'll just roll in. | 06:32 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: after quite some respins, sounds good. The feature is finished now and we already pushed some nice pending fixes :) | 06:32 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Roger. I'll add COPYING in the diff, upload a new revision with that, set the status and then ping you mercilessly until it happens. | 06:32 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, did you alreadsy upload colord into Ubuntu? It did not appear in Universe yet. | 06:32 |
| didrocks | RAOF: how dare you doing that mercilessly? :( | 06:33 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I'm off in 1h to take my plane for desktop summit btw ;) | 06:33 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I can then mercilessly ignore you :p | 06:33 |
| RAOF | :) | 06:33 |
| didrocks | RAOF: i'll have a look this evening and do the promotion ;) | 06:33 |
| didrocks | or maybe in Amsterdam airport, we'll see | 06:34 |
| RAOF | tkamppeter: I didn't upload colord to Ubuntu; it's near the top of Debian NEW, then I was going to sync. If you'd like it right right now I can upload straight to Ubuntu. | 06:34 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, it is about the MIR for Ubuntu. but if you put it into Ubuntu now, it will also undergo a NEW process. Will it need the NEW process and the MIR for Ubuntu also if it gets synced? | 06:36 |
| RAOF | tkamppeter: I'm not actually sure - didrocks, if you're still there, do new packages from Debian need to go through Ubuntu NEW, too? | 06:36 |
| didrocks | RAOF: yeah, they need to, but if it's a sync from debian, it's just a button push away :) | 06:37 |
| didrocks | as it has already been acked by debian | 06:37 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Right; that's what I thought. We don't double-scrutinize. | 06:37 |
| didrocks | no, we have enough to do already ;) | 06:37 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, didrocks, so I wait for the sync to appear. And only then I have to do the MIR? | 06:38 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: you can prepare the MIR already | 06:39 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: then, just have to copy/paste it | 06:39 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: but please, prepare it carefully, tells the exact rationale and what deps on it (non deprecated ui not like gnome-color-manager) | 06:39 |
| didrocks | RAOF: is colord big? | 06:40 |
| tkamppeter | didrocks, OK. | 06:40 |
| RAOF | didrocks: No, not big. | 06:40 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: thanks ;) | 06:40 |
| didrocks | (huge then? :p) | 06:40 |
| RAOF | Heh. A couple of hundred K | 06:41 |
| didrocks | ok, good enough ;) | 06:41 |
| RAOF | But the actual debs are on my ssd in the other machine, so that's a ballpark figure. | 06:41 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, we need to add also some standard color profile package? Can that get big? | 06:42 |
| RAOF | tkamppeter: That can get pretty much arbitrarily huge; easily 20MB. We wouldn't ship that on the CD, though. We'd ship a tiny subset. | 06:42 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, didrocks: My biggest concern for a CM in Oneiric is that Argyll (the support for color calibration devices) does not build on Oneiric. | 06:45 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: that can be a blocker then, indeed | 06:45 |
| desrt | good morning fellow europe-dwellers! | 06:46 |
| RAOF | colord itself has support for colour calibration though, doesn't it? | 06:46 |
| RAOF | desrt: You're fooling noone! | 06:46 |
| desrt | isn't it grand to be in europe this morning? | 06:46 |
| desrt | RAOF: i don't need to try hard to convince people that i'm in europe. desktop summit begins tomorrow, after all | 06:47 |
| RAOF | I'm sure this is all just cover to conceal the fact that you've built a teleporter. | 06:47 |
| RAOF | It's the only explaination for the known facts. | 06:48 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, I do not really know whether colord supports calibration devices, I think rather not. And CM without calibration support does not make much sense. | 06:48 |
| desrt | incorrect. boeing built one, air canada bought it from them, and i hired their services. | 06:48 |
| RAOF | tkamppeter: Yeah, that's true. | 06:48 |
| RAOF | The devils! I knew those aircraft manufacturers were hiding something. | 06:49 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, didrocks, a lot to do before FF and in addition, I have a session on Desktop Summit on Wed. | 06:49 |
| desrt | RAOF: this particular transporter is somewhat slower than the ones you may remember from star trek | 06:49 |
| desrt | takes 8 hours, all in all, for the transport | 06:50 |
| desrt | with some rather obnoxious preparation required for an hour or two before you even begin using it | 06:50 |
| didrocks | hey desrt! | 06:50 |
| desrt | didrocks: hey | 06:51 |
| desrt | didrocks: i guess you're flying later today? | 06:51 |
| didrocks | desrt: yeah, I'm leaving in 40 minutes for the airport, then Lyon -> Amsterdam -> Berlin | 06:51 |
| desrt | dbarth: good morning | 06:51 |
| didrocks | desrt: just the time to still push some stuff to break oneiric before leaving (6 this morning and counting…) | 06:52 |
| desrt | good. seb isn't awake yet. | 06:52 |
| didrocks | I guess not ;) | 06:53 |
| didrocks | oh, 7 now! | 06:53 |
| didrocks | desrt: are you going to the pre-registration this evening? | 06:53 |
| desrt | i didn't know of it | 06:54 |
| desrt | i guess i should :) | 06:54 |
| desrt | where is it? | 06:54 |
| didrocks | desrt: https://www.desktopsummit.org/program/pre-registration | 06:54 |
| desrt | sounds good | 06:55 |
| desrt | didrocks: sounds KLMish | 06:56 |
| mvo | didrocks: my plan exactly, upload new apt with tons of $stuff, leave for the weekend | 06:56 |
| mvo | didrocks: have a good trip! | 06:56 |
| desrt | mvo: it's the best way to do it | 06:56 |
| didrocks | mvo: thanks a lot, have a good oneiric breakage :-) | 06:57 |
| desrt | that way when someone get angry friday evening they've either calmed down or (better yet) fixed it by monday | 06:57 |
| dbarth | desrt: good morning | 06:59 |
| RAOF | didrocks: There you go. Now with COPYING.GPL-2. | 07:00 |
| didrocks | dbarth: FYI, brandon sent to me the xapian patch, the tests passes there, I pushed that to the ubuntu-desktop ppa | 07:00 |
| didrocks | RAOF: thanks, I'll do the promotion at the airport I guess | 07:00 |
| * didrocks still needs to shave and prepare the laptop-pack | 07:01 | |
| dbarth | didrocks: yup, read that this morning | 07:01 |
| desrt | ...you know you work too hard when... | 07:01 |
| didrocks | sucks that the Lyon airport doesn't have any free wifi :/ | 07:01 |
| desrt | christ | 07:01 |
| desrt | for how expensive it is to get there, you think they'd atleast give you free wifi | 07:02 |
| didrocks | desrt: I don't think it's the same company TBH ;) | 07:02 |
| desrt | indeed. ripoffs all around :) | 07:02 |
| desrt | the free wifi at frankfurt is quite a new thing... | 07:02 |
| desrt | it's only in the lounge, it seems | 07:03 |
| desrt | but they didn't even have it here before | 07:03 |
| didrocks | oh ok, at least, amsterdam is nice for that (2x30 minutes) | 07:04 |
| desrt | lol | 07:04 |
| desrt | inf*30 minutes if you know how to use ifconfig hw | 07:05 |
| mvo | didrocks: its a geek gathering, no need for shaving | 07:05 |
| mvo | desrt: clam-down or fix> good thinking! | 07:05 |
| didrocks | mvo: I want to pass the security still :p | 07:05 |
| mvo | lol | 07:06 |
| desrt | didrocks: i think your beard needs to be a bit longer before you get profiled | 07:06 |
| jbicha | didrocks: could you check https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/transmission/transmission-2.33/+merge/70233 | 07:08 |
| jbicha | or I could have someone else do it | 07:08 |
| mvo | jbicha: I will do it, didrocks needs to shave | 07:09 |
| jbicha | mvo: thanks | 07:09 |
| mvo | looks good, uploaded | 07:13 |
| didrocks | desrt: yeah, even after two months of hard beard work, I didn't succeed :) | 07:18 |
| didrocks | jbicha: FYI, lib* MIRed | 07:18 |
| desrt | didrocks: ah. haven't shaved since i saw you, then? | 07:20 |
| desrt | me neither :D | 07:20 |
| didrocks | desrt: I hadn't shave since last rally TBH ;) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | or even a week before, the Qt contributor summit I guess | 07:21 |
| desrt | i did at the rally | 07:22 |
| desrt | but otherwise, pretty similar situation | 07:22 |
| desrt | i say you keep it | 07:22 |
| didrocks | desrt: too late ;) | 07:23 |
| desrt | i had a feeling :p | 07:23 |
| desrt | "hadn't" has a certain implication | 07:23 |
| didrocks | indeed :) | 07:23 |
| * desrt goes for a coffee then a plane | 07:24 | |
| desrt | see you tonight | 07:24 |
| didrocks | desrt: see you tonight! | 07:26 |
| * didrocks goes now, see you! | 07:26 | |
| tkamppeter | I succeeded, I got Argyll compiled! | 07:32 |
| chrisccoulson | tkamppeter, \o/ | 07:39 |
| chrisccoulson | hi everyone :) | 07:39 |
| seb128 | hey | 07:41 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning seb128 | 07:42 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3, how are you? | 07:42 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, doing well | 07:42 |
| rickspencer3 | I had a nice dinner with huats and his family last night | 07:42 |
| rickspencer3 | that guy is so cool and kind | 07:42 |
| tjaalton | slomo: hey, you're the gstreamer maintaner, right? I've got some mp3's that fail to play in banshee, and at least one of them makes it crash. Apparently it's a gstreamer bug, would you like the files somewhere to debug it? | 07:43 |
| slomo | tjaalton: does it crash with totem too? | 07:44 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, yeah, huats is really nice ;-) | 07:44 |
| slomo | tjaalton: file a bug at bugzilla.gnome.org against gstreamer, best with a sample file | 07:44 |
| tjaalton | slomo: yes, though totem is completely broken atm on oneiric | 07:44 |
| tjaalton | slomo: ok I'll do that. once I recover the account :) | 07:44 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, how broken? | 07:44 |
| tjaalton | seb128: doesn't start, crashes | 07:45 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, try uninstalling totem-plugins? | 07:45 |
| slomo | tjaalton: and rhythmbox or gst123 maybe? :) | 07:45 |
| tjaalton | seb128: that did it | 07:45 |
| tjaalton | slomo: ah, installed gst123, thanks | 07:46 |
| seb128 | ok, that's the same issue ricotz was mentioning then | 07:46 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, do you use i386 or amd64? | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | yeah I filed a bug which had a dupe already | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | amd64 | 07:46 |
| seb128 | ricotz says it's the libpeas update which create the issue but it works for me | 07:46 |
| seb128 | wondering if that's amd64 specific | 07:46 |
| tjaalton | slomo: yeah totem and gst123 both hang too. vlc plays the file | 07:49 |
| tjaalton | sweet, some files play on oneiric when they didn't on natty | 07:50 |
| slomo | tjaalton: ok, file a bug please | 07:51 |
| tjaalton | slomo: yep | 07:51 |
| tjaalton | I filed one on lp already, will do the same on b.g.o | 07:52 |
| tjaalton | the source flac had some glitches, maybe gst doesn't like those on the mp3 | 07:53 |
| slomo | tjaalton: if it's a plain mp3 that definitely isn't the problem | 07:54 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 07:54 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks | 07:54 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 07:54 |
| tjaalton | slomo: ok | 07:54 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks | 07:55 |
| chrisccoulson | preparing for a quiet week next week with everyone at the desktop summit ;) | 07:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, lol, "quiet", you wish | 07:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you realize that ff is next week and since everybody will be at the summit you will have to handle desktop by yourself? ;-) | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | maybe i should book vacation ;) | 07:56 |
| tjaalton | slomo: you don't happen to have 0.11 somewhere packaged? | 07:57 |
| slomo | tjaalton: nope, and there's no reason for you to try it anyway | 07:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, nah, there is not slacking away from this one :p don't worry kenvandine will be around as well ;-) | 07:57 |
| tjaalton | slomo: ok :) | 07:57 |
| seb128 | slomo, hey | 07:57 |
| seb128 | slomo, is gnome-codec-install still required nowadays? | 07:57 |
| slomo | seb128: i don't know, do you have something else that replaces it? in aptdaemon or something? | 07:58 |
| seb128 | slomo, I don't know exactly what it's doing and if aptdaemon provide that | 07:58 |
| seb128 | that's what I'm trying to check :p | 07:58 |
| slomo | seb128: if a gstreamer plugin is missing it will be called by the application through gstreamer to ask to user to install the package(s) that are required for the plugins | 08:00 |
| seb128 | slomo, what there any logic in gnome-codec-install or just the "install that package" code? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, don't forget to move your tb WI to beta1 btw ;-) | 08:01 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i did that already didn't i? | 08:02 |
| slomo | seb128: what do you mean with logic? it displays gtk windows and uses apt to search for and install the required packages | 08:02 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-default-email-client still has 4 items on a3 | 08:08 |
| seb128 | slomo, I meant the "gst element to binary package mapping" | 08:08 |
| seb128 | slomo, seems that aptdaemon could handle what you describe, I will have a look ;-) | 08:08 |
| slomo | seb128: yes, that's in there (but all the information required is inside the apt database) | 08:09 |
| seb128 | slomo, trying to get synaptic of the CD and to stop using gtk2 as well | 08:09 |
| slomo | seb128: gnome-codec-install does not depend on synaptic anymore iirc | 08:10 |
| slomo | mvo changed that... but yes, iirc aptdaemon provides the functionality and that's what you're using now anyway, right? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | doh | 08:11 |
| seb128 | slomo, indeed, "python-aptdaemon-gtk | synaptic (>= 0.57.8)" | 08:11 |
| seb128 | it showed in my rdepends on synaptic call | 08:12 |
| seb128 | but I didn't check is was an or depends | 08:12 |
| seb128 | ok, so it just needs to gtk2->gtk3 | 08:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks ;-) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did jasoncwarner_ came back to you about the decision of the email client for Oneiric? | 08:22 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 08:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, he's travelling isn't he? | 08:23 |
| huats | hello seb128 ! | 08:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, he was yesterday for sure, dunno if he's still | 08:23 |
| huats | and hello everyone ! | 08:23 |
| seb128 | huats, ca va ? tu donnes une bonne image des français c'est bien ;-) | 08:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i asked him on wednesday, but he didn't get back to me | 08:23 |
| huats | seb128, oh really nice to hear :) | 08:24 |
| chrisccoulson | he might have been asleep though ;) | 08:24 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, he's probably still somewhat between travelling and fighting jetlag | 08:24 |
| seb128 | huats, on dirait que rickspencer3 trouves les français bien sympatiques ;-) | 08:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i should call his cell phone and wake him ;) | 08:24 |
| huats | seb128, après rickspencer3 donne une bonne image des américains aussi :) he fed my kid yesterday evening :) | 08:24 |
| huats | héhé tant mieux ! | 08:24 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, do you know whether GNOME 3 has a successor for the gnome-color-manager, for example somewhere in g-c-c? Or was this functionality dropped? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, it's in gnome-control-center | 08:25 |
| huats | rickspencer3, please the next time don't say to théo the time you woke up... because this morning he woke me up at 6:35... | 08:25 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, but we don't built yet because we need to get colord first for that | 08:25 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, so it only needs a rebuild of g-c-c after colord is in? | 08:25 |
| rickspencer3 | huats, ah yes, I certain the fault is all mine | 08:25 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, yes | 08:26 |
| huats | rickspencer3, ;) | 08:26 |
| huats | seb128, and you might have not noticed but I also did an update yesterday :D | 08:26 |
| seb128 | huats, see that's the issue, when rickspencer3 talks people to listen and do what he says :p | 08:26 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 08:26 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, so I will close the gnome-color-manager bug. No MIR needed, all needed already in GNOME3, so one WI less. | 08:26 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, oh don't I wish! | 08:26 |
| seb128 | huats, yeah, nice to see you doing some desktop work ;-) | 08:26 |
| huats | seb128, indeed :) | 08:26 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, great | 08:27 |
| huats | seb128, you should move to Toulouse I might do even more ;) | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128 should move to Toulouse! | 08:27 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:35 |
| seb128 | huats, rickspencer3: in fact I'm moving to Berlin today :p | 08:35 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, ah, enjoy! | 08:35 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 08:36 |
| huats | :) | 08:37 |
| jbicha | tkamppeter: I don't think gnome-color-manager was completely killed, gnome still has a source package | 08:37 |
| jbicha | maybe we don't need what's left | 08:37 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's clearly not "needed" | 08:38 |
| jbicha | ok | 08:38 |
| seb128 | it's like gpm which still has the statistics ui | 08:38 |
| seb128 | you can use that but you don't "need" it | 08:38 |
| tkamppeter | jbicha, I have moved to g-c-c anyway as this seems to be the standard now. | 08:39 |
| seb128 | mvo, can we drop the update-notifier recommends to a suggests? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | mvo, or do you prefer to get it ported to aptdaemon for the few things it uses synaptic for? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey btw ;-) | 09:11 |
| mvo | seb128: I would like to port it, I think its staightforward. I will check after lunch | 09:13 |
| mvo | is it the only remainaing one? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, yes | 09:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, I had gnome-codec-install on my list but that as an error, it as an | synaptic | 09:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, I just confirmed on a3 live session, nothing goes away if I uninstall synaptic | 09:15 |
| seb128 | it's only there because update-notifier recommends it | 09:15 |
| tjaalton | slomo: filed gnome bug 656018 and linked the lp bug to it | 09:28 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 656018 in don't know "crash playing some mp3's" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656018 | 09:28 |
| slomo | tjaalton: please get backtraces of the crashes with gdb | 09:29 |
| tjaalton | hmm ok | 09:30 |
| tjaalton | does gstreamer use ffmpeg for mp3's? | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | libgstffmpeg | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | can't find ddeb for libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 | 09:39 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, ping | 09:50 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, where can I find info about the proposed property informing of a restart | 09:50 |
| ronoc_ | just did an upgrade but didn't see anything obvious at a glance on the transaction props on d-feet | 09:51 |
| * ronoc_ makes coffee | 09:51 | |
| mvo | ronoc_: did you restart aptdaemon? it should be there? | 09:55 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, what is the name of the property ? | 10:08 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, when did this prop land in oneiric ? | 10:17 |
| ronoc_ | if it only landed yesterday then I need a restart | 10:17 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, ping you there, I need to leave shortly for the airport and was hoping to finish this off on the plane | 10:27 |
| seb128 | ronoc_, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/76161103/aptdaemon_0.43%2Bbzr662-0ubuntu1_0.43%2Bbzr663-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 10:30 |
| seb128 | ronoc_, that landed a week ago | 10:30 |
| seb128 | ronoc_, RebootRequired? | 10:31 |
| mvo | ronoc_: hold on a sec, I fire up d-feet | 10:32 |
| mvo | ronoc_: with current oneiric I do: start software-center to get aptdaemon started, open d-feet, filer for apt on the system bus, go to org.debian.apt and I have the RebootRequired property there under "properties" | 10:34 |
| mvo | ronoc_: do you see a different result? | 10:34 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, ah its on the apt interface, sorry i was looking at the transaction | 10:34 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, seb128 thanks | 10:35 |
| mvo | ronoc_: great, have fun! | 10:38 |
| mvo | ronoc_: and safe travels too | 10:38 |
| ronoc_ | mvo, thanks :) | 10:39 |
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| davmor2 | guys left clicking on rubbish bin doesn't seem to opening the rubbish bin, is this one of the shortcuts not working? | 11:08 |
| fagan | Ewww found a bug in ubiquity | 11:30 |
| fagan | Oh I think I know what might be going on | 11:33 |
| fagan | Nope something else :/ | 11:42 |
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| mterry | FYI, I likely will have to sign off a few hours early today | 13:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, don't worry between people on holidays and those flying to desktop summit nobody will notice ;-) | 13:17 |
| mterry | seb128, fair :) | 13:17 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, when do you leave? | 13:23 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, in 35 minutes | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i uploaded cimi's gtk patch, i am sure you noticed | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | any complaints yet? | 13:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I did | 13:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no, I'm quite happy about it | 13:27 |
| seb128 | running gedit stopped spamming stdout with warnings it seems | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | cool | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | oh... really? | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | maybe gwibber has gotten less verbose too :) | 13:27 |
| * kenvandine is cleaning up all the json warnings now | 13:27 | |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: do you just not sleep? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, those were displayed on most gtk applications | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, rarely :) | 13:28 |
| seb128 | sleep is for the weaks as asac say :p | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | yup! | 13:28 |
| davmor2 | seb128: plenty of sleep when your dead says I :) | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | i've been up until 3am every night this week... | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | and my kids make sure i am up by 6:30 or 7 | 13:29 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, stop working so late! | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | i have lots of features i want to get into gwibber before FF :) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | brb session restart | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | i'll rest on vacation next month | 13:30 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: I've just noticed something on the new gwibber in comparison to the old not sure if it is a bug or correct though, old shows the picture of the person retweeting, new shows the original tweeter picture and say shared by the retweeter, I'm assuming it's correct :) | 13:31 |
| seb128 | re | 13:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, btw I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, if you can join the meeting in 1:30 that would be nice | 13:32 |
| seb128 | just point to that and say that pitti will be back next week | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | will do | 13:32 |
| seb128 | (though at the gir hackfest) | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, indeed... that is because we do native retweets now | 13:32 |
| seb128 | we are a bit late and dx as well so still quite some landing to do | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | so the native retweet displays the original tweet, intact | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | late on what? | 13:33 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: nice good to know it's working correctly then :) | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | seb128, Beta3? i assume you mean alpha3 :) | 13:34 |
| * kenvandine will correct | 13:34 | |
| kenvandine | seb128, oh you mean the unity updates | 13:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry, I fixed it | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:35 |
| seb128 | dunno if that's the gtk update, seems likely it, but I'm happy that gedit stopped spamming stdout :p | 13:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I don't think there will be lot to discuss at the meeting this week anyway | 13:37 |
| seb128 | the fun is going to be next week with ff rush | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | yeah... | 13:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do you think we should enable the empathy call ui? | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i think a lot of that output was menu related | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | and cimi's local menubar thing might have quieted that | 13:37 |
| seb128 | yeah, seems likely | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | i don't know... i haven't even tried it | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | that is just the clutter-gst refactoring for calls, right? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that seems like something that we should land next week if we want to land it this cycle | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 13:38 |
| seb128 | ev mentioned he wants still to use libcheese as well | 13:38 |
| seb128 | we will need mirs for cheese, clutter-gst, mx | 13:38 |
| seb128 | then to move camerabin to good | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | do you see any issues with those MIRs? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | not sure if we should have a look at packaging gnome-contacts thing as well | 13:39 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no, they just need to be done ;-) | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | i would so love to have that | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | but man... so limited on time! | 13:39 |
| seb128 | indeed | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | is rodrigo going to desktop summit? | 13:40 |
| seb128 | well let's see what we can get done next week | 13:40 |
| seb128 | no | 13:40 |
| seb128 | he's back from holidays on sunday | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | maybe he can package gnome-contacts :) | 13:40 |
| seb128 | and desktop summit conf days are saturday to monday | 13:40 |
| seb128 | so he figured it was not worth to fly on monday | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 13:40 |
| seb128 | so yeah, he should be around next week | 13:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 13:41 |
| seb128 | jbicha, would you be interested by working on any of those things we just discussed by any chance? ;-) | 13:41 |
| seb128 | ok, time to go to the airport, see you everybody | 13:53 |
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| micahg | kenvandine: so, you'll remove gwibber from indicator-messages now that it's seeded? :) | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | micahg, yup | 18:32 |
| kenvandine | doing it now | 18:32 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, do you know when ted is going to do another indicator-messages release? | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | there's 2 changes i'd really like to get in :) | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | not this week :) | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | i think he will be back monday though | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | ie, r220 and r221 from trunk ;) | 18:34 |
| kenvandine | oh, in trunk already? | 18:34 |
| kenvandine | i can backport those | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, awesome, thanks :) | 18:34 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, good timing, i was just about to hit enter to dput indicator-messages :) | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, you should make thunderbird default to the ubuntu font :) | 18:42 |
| OwaisL | Hey guys, does a Unity LauncherEntry emit any signals upon click? like indicators emit user-dislay/server-display ? | 19:36 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: would you be able to rescue transmission from the new queue it's been stuck in? | 19:43 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, sorry, now | 19:44 |
| kenvandine | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Archive_days | 19:44 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: oh, wasn't aware there was a schedule, thanks! | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, anytime! | 19:47 |
| jbicha | oh, and that's an archive admin job anyway, not something core-dev can do I guess | 19:47 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 19:55 |
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