[10:21] * slashtom would like to float an idea regarding the ubuntu hour... [10:22] aloha [10:22] hey cztab, how's the craic? [10:23] ntb [10:23] how's life with you? [10:23] grand, we're back from our summer holidays [10:24] nice [10:24] are you coming to dublin on your visit? [10:26] not sure tbh [10:26] I'm back for 10 days [10:27] and I think this time less running around is needed [10:27] anyways, my idea for the ubuntu hour was that we could change the venue and time to better accommodate those who cannot or do not wish to enter a licenced premises, and where mid-week may be an issue [10:30] could do [10:30] aye [10:31] what ever works well tbh [10:31] aye, enjoy. hope the weather stays good for you in lahinch [10:31] yeah [10:31] czajkowski: you back now? [10:31] I will say that the venue is great imo, but that's just me, maybe tweeking the day/time might help [10:31] ebel: nope, not till the 23rd [10:32] i have a few problems with the venue, the food choice is very poor if you don't eat meat, and from a non-selfish point of view, we're excluded all under 18's and anyone who doesn't want to enter a licenced premises [10:32] usually not too much of a problem. [10:33] which isn't ebel? [10:33] slashtom: I'll agree with you the menu choice for you isn't great [10:33] but we've never had an issue with under 18's [10:33] hehe, I was remarking to slashtom yesterday that many floss groups want to keep venues/events friendly to women and yet have meet ups in bars which is quite muslim hostile :P [10:33] that's because we meet in a pub and they're not allowed [10:33] and it's a hotel so it's ok to have them there, where as if you were in a bar/pub it would be an isue [10:34] I mean the licenced premisis issue. [10:34] we have had under 18s to a geeknic before [10:34] but again I'm not there so not my call [10:34] though 50% of the population are women, and <<<<50% are muslim [10:35] ebel: I know pub meet ups don't go down with women in some counteries mostly eastern and even in some usa folks I know [10:35] but yer call [10:35] course you wanna go down that route we'd have to think about when ramadan is on, and when lent is on, etc.... [10:35] what ever ye do is your choice tbh [10:35] aye [10:35] aye, i thought i would float the idea in channel first [10:36] czajkowski: oh i don't really care too much about the pub issue. Just depends on how pedantic you want to be. I think there's a Life of Brian skit about that :P [10:36] no I agree if you feel the venue/date/time isn't suiting you should change it [10:36] my suggestion would be to meet on a saturday lunch/afternoon in a coffee shop [10:36] weekends either suit some or not others. [10:36] at the end of the day [10:36] there is no best day that will get everyone [10:36] :) [10:36] course we don't decide on things on abelist grounds either... how wheelchair friendly are we.... etc. [10:36] suits you well if you live/work in town [10:36] the rabbit hole never ends... [10:37] yup [10:37] if you start to rule out places due to x y z the list will never ed [10:37] *end [10:37] but as I say [10:37] I'm not there [10:37] not my call [10:37] :) [10:37] i used to work out past clonee, that was a pain getting into town for 6pm - i would always be late [10:38] i also feel that the current type of location and time is on similar ground with the ILUG PoTD [10:38] why not be different, and expand the scope of the linux community? [10:38] yup [10:38] can do [10:39] course, do we want to exclude travellers? [10:39] I don't know any travellers, isn't that weird... [10:40] ebel: i'm not suggesting a sunday, which would clash with the horse fair ;) [10:40] would some venues de facto exclude travellers, do they? wonder if we have a "traveller friendly venue" :P [10:40] course this isn't something that's happened yet :P [10:41] how about a ubuntu hour on a sat morning , 11 or some thing [10:41] * ebel comes back from his tangent to a real conversation :P [10:41] aye, that's the sort of thing tdr112 [10:42] yeah saturday lunch time. go to a café, get some lunch/coffee [10:43] * slashtom has memories of being one of the only geeks at school... so i think it would be good to be accessible to a larger audience [10:43] just note, if people have families kids hobbies, that weekends tend not to work [10:43] often easier to stay out after work for 1/2 jars and chat than leave home on a saturday when kids and parties are on [10:44] just my 2 cent [10:44] the current wedneday in trinity capital hotel isn't working either [10:44] would weekends work for teenagers? [10:44] yup fair enough. [10:44] lets try a few and see if they work better [10:44] easier for teenagers to go into town on a saturday afternoon than go to a pub on a school night. [10:44] suits different people [10:44] aye, tdr112. i will send an email out to the mailing list later today on the subjet [10:47] we need to get the emails/blog/tweets out about the picnic [10:48] tdr112: if you mail me details I'll add it to mine [10:49] have you got a location or a big penguin ready for easy location within St Stephens Green? [15:06] * slashtom emails the group... maybe it takes a non-irishman to suggest moving out of the pub :) [15:07] slashtom: :) [15:08] slashtom: just looking at the list of our members I don't notice any large portion or even any minors on the list [15:08] but maybe looking at another day/time is a good idea [15:08] best of luck :) [15:08] nice to have a bit of change [15:09] Tis all just eastern europeans like your self czajkowski :P [15:09] hey blame WWII for my surname [15:09] born in UK, lived there for 12 months, and then 30 years in ireland :) [15:09] I'm irish [15:10] I have no aligance to easten europe one bit [15:10] tell that to everyone trying to pronounce "cztab" ;) [15:11] although http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Czajkowski is my grandfather [15:11] does the mailing list even store information like DoB? [15:12] nope but going by pictures and people I know [15:12] ML doesnt ask for DOB [15:12] and the grandfather married then divorced and moved back to Poland and didnt settle in UK [15:15] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ie/+mugshots [15:15] 118 members [15:15] and 5 pending [15:15] czajkowski: Oh I know, I'm just joking with you. :) [15:15] touchy subject [15:15] I had no issue for so much of my life [15:15] Bonglord looks very young [15:15] then the influx of pols coming in [15:15] I got lumped into same bunch [15:15] didnt like it [15:15] You're well Irish in my book. [15:16] slashtom: that's an 70/80s job pic [15:16] I guess we get some young new members like 1st year students come september [15:16] but most are 18 starting uni over here [15:16] or turning soon [15:16] aye [15:16] I think ya have to do what ye feel is right [15:17] wow that is a great quote Being a doctor is very depressing. You're always surrounded by sick people." [15:17] it's none of my business. I just know people don't like giving up weekends much :/ [15:17] anyways, tis always interesting to try to open things up, attrack people who may or may not be able to come [15:17] i'm not on that list [15:17] sure we'll see what happens. [15:17] reading all about Mr czajkowski [15:18] most people aren't willing to give up a wednesday either! [15:18] slashtom: did you join the team ? [15:18] ebel: exactly [15:18] tdr112: I've no polite opinion of the man [15:18] he's related by blood and that's it [15:19] i signed up to the mailing list, i didn't realise i had more to do [15:20] slashtom: launchpad has teams [15:20] slashtom: yeah join the team :) [15:20] be one of us [15:20] ok [15:20] hve got to get a cold shower [15:20] it's BOILING HOT HERE [15:20] toodles folks [15:21] tdr112: mail me geeknic info [23:41] 'morning. [23:42] tis [23:46] Looking for a hint. Trying to install using 10.10 LiveCD, but it gets OOM before reaching desktop, so I'm thinking I might add some usb swap just to get the install going; but how do you interrupt to a shell and then continue? [23:47] how much ram has the system got? [23:47] can you set swap in a boot option? [23:47] euw, about 256M, minus some for shared gfx [23:48] if I switch to a console, I can see the oom killer in action [23:50] that is a little light alright. [23:51] only thing i can see for swap space is; http://codeidol.com/unix/ubuntu/Getting-Started/Customize-the-Ubuntu-Live-CD/ [23:52] I saw that, the swap considerations there are for a machine /creating/ a CD, not for the target host.