[10:35] <MagicFab> hi everyone
[10:36] <MagicFab> I suppose it's been noted before but I've been wrong other times
[10:36] <MagicFab> I can't access http://loco.ubuntu.com/, an error comes up:
[10:36] <MagicFab> LoCo Directory has encountered an Error!
[10:36] <MagicFab> Please try your request again.
[10:36] <MagicFab> If you continue to experience problems with LoCo Team Directory, please Report it!
[10:37] <czajkowski> hmm I'll ask in sysadmin channel
[10:38] <czajkowski> nothing anyone can do in here 
[10:41] <MagicFab> I've reported it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/821398
[10:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 821398 in loco-directory "Loco Directory site can't be used, error reported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:42] <czajkowski> MagicFab: we've alreayd metnioned it in the sysadmin channel, they're looking into it 
[10:42] <MagicFab> czajkowski, sure, if someone else asks it'd be nice to direct them to the bug - if you experience the same maybe you can confirm it ?
[10:42] <czajkowski> but it's not a bug
[10:42] <czajkowski> it's the servers being restarted
[10:44] <MagicFab> We should have a "(un)scheduled maintenance" accordingly :|
[10:44] <MagicFab> Tx., I guess it'll be back shortly.
[10:59] <MagicFab> Unfortunate timing :|
[11:32]  * nigelb hugs czajkowski :)
[11:33] <nigelb> Just saw the email and was getting to it, looks like you already did!
[11:33] <czajkowski> what email ?
[11:44] <nigelb> czajkowski: the bug
[11:45] <czajkowski> oh right, it's not a bug 
[11:46] <czajkowski> status has been updated in canocanil-sysadmin 
[12:19] <mhall119> MagicFab: our server has been having hardware problems lately, we're waiting on a replacement
[12:19] <czajkowski> mhall119: I did mark the bug invalid 
[12:20] <mhall119> thanks czajkowski 
[12:20] <czajkowski> np
[12:20] <mhall119> now to delete all the error emails out of my inbox...
[12:20] <MagicFab> Invalid ? Ah well.
[12:21] <mhall119> MagicFab: there's nothing wrong with the code
[12:21] <paultag> zomg loco.ubuntu.com is failed :)
[12:22] <paultag> let's all email mhall119 
[12:22] <czajkowski> paultag: do keep up 
[12:22] <czajkowski> ;) 
[12:22] <paultag> your server's down
[12:22] <mhall119> paultag: we get emails for every 500 error 
[12:22] <czajkowski> it's bee said, and we've poked sysadmins 
[12:22] <czajkowski> it's now in their topic 
[12:22] <czajkowski> nout more people can do till they fix it 
[12:22] <paultag> there's a dilbert like this
[12:23] <MagicFab> server down -> change DNS, put appropriate message. No code for that AFAIK. I call that a bug. This looks real bad on events.
[12:23] <paultag> but I can't remember where or when because it was so old
[12:23] <paultag> mhall119: it takes an hour to cascade
[12:23] <mhall119> there's a dilbert like everything, just like XKCD
[12:23] <paultag> sorry MagicFab 
[12:23] <MagicFab> anyways, I have to run.
[12:23] <paultag> MagicFab: it's not really doable, because a 2 minute hickup becomes a 2 hour error
[12:23] <paultag> MagicFab: if anything it should be a function of that server
[12:23] <paultag> to serve up a nicer page
[12:23] <mhall119> DNS is slow to propogate
[12:24] <paultag> an hour for the best case
[12:24] <paultag> using DNS for this is overkill :(
[12:24] <czajkowski> indeed
[12:27] <nigelb> mhall119: Not sure I like my email flooded by django now :P
[12:40] <mhall119> nigelb: too bad
[12:46] <nigelb> mhall119: j/k :)
[17:48] <bkerensa> Anyone know of any LoCo's that use MailChimp or something else to send a newletter through their mailing list?
[17:49] <h00k> bkerensa: we use mailman: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi
[17:49] <h00k> bkerensa: does this help?
[17:50] <bkerensa> yeah
[18:00] <mhall119> bkerensa: you can also use launchpad to send emails to anyone in your LP team
[18:00] <mhall119> but mailman is the prefered resource
[18:01] <czajkowski> bkerensa: mailman 
[18:01] <bkerensa> I was thinking of using mailchimp to push a html newsletter to mailman
[18:01] <bkerensa> :)
[18:02] <czajkowski> hmm I set all newsletters to non html 
[18:02] <czajkowski> I prefer text base
[18:02] <bkerensa> :P
[18:03] <pleia2> bkerensa: see? I told you :)
[18:04] <paultag> yeah text for me as well :)
[18:04] <paultag> but it sounds like a good idea
[18:05] <czajkowski> pleia2: a case of ask 12 people the same question and still a non believer
[18:05] <czajkowski> bkerensa: I think you'll find most geeks don't like HTML 
[18:06] <czajkowski> we dont read it in our email clients 
[18:06] <mhall119> bkerensa: if you want, you can use the wiki for a formatted newsletter, and just email everyone a link to that
[18:06] <bkerensa> well someone important at Canonical once said... We must be new user friendly and modern
[18:06] <czajkowski> and I tend to mark news letters that come with html as gibberish and delete 
[18:06] <bkerensa> :P
[18:06] <paultag> because stuff like <a href = '' >http://other.shit.domain.tld</a>
[18:06] <bkerensa> mhall119: excellent idea
[18:06] <paultag> so I prefer to read it in plain-text, and I don't like reading XML for fun :)
[18:06] <czajkowski> bkerensa: that doesnt mean annoy geeks who like things a certain way either 
[18:07] <bkerensa> czajkowsi: I had that exact debate many times at CLS and OSCON... I dont wanna lose gnome2
[18:07] <bkerensa> :(
[18:08] <czajkowski> gnome2 is going 
[18:08] <czajkowski> for everyone 
[18:08] <czajkowski> fact
[18:08] <paultag> fork it :)
[18:28] <cprofitt> I only take in plain text as well czajkowski 
[18:29] <paultag> coffee, black
[18:30] <paultag> I hate HTML email :)
[18:30] <paultag> I also hate milk and sugar in my coffee
[18:31] <nigelb> Yeah, HTML email has other things I don't like. Like tracking. I'm happy mailman doesn't do any of those.
[18:31] <paultag> and spam links
[18:32] <paultag> <a href = 'http://shady.domain.com/rolex.asp' >http://rolex.com/fancy-watches</a>
[18:32] <nigelb> yeh
[18:32] <paultag> fools 99% of people, according to a study I just made up
[18:32] <nigelb> companies think people are idiots
[18:33] <nigelb> they insert white png of 1 x 1 size for tracking
[18:33]  * nigelb dislikes that thoroughly
[18:33] <paultag> nigelb: dude, jam with us on turntable.fm
[18:33] <paultag> nigelb: yeah that's lulzy
[18:33] <nigelb> paultag: Does NOT work in India :\
[18:33] <paultag> nigelb: aww, boo
[18:34] <nigelb> HA, doesn't work outside US
[18:34] <nigelb> "We're very sorry, but while we would love to let you in and rock out with us, we need to currently restrict turntable access to only the United States due to licensing constraints. "
[18:34] <paultag> jeez
[18:34] <nigelb> paultag: I'll get on in about a month when I move my server from germany to LA \o/
[18:34] <paultag> nigelb: Deutschland, Deutschland, über alle :)
[18:41] <cprofitt> hey nigelb 
[18:41] <cprofitt> what is this turntable.fm thing?
[18:42] <cprofitt> everyone still listening to the same music or some such
[18:42] <paultag> cprofitt: yeah
[18:42] <nigelb> hey cprofitt!
[18:42] <cprofitt> based on Facebook?
[18:42] <paultag> I think they use it for auth
[18:42] <paultag> but no
[19:09] <bkerensa> paultag: Can I PM?
[19:09] <bkerensa> cprofitt: turntable.fm is for the win :)
[19:21] <cprofitt> gotta run folks... 
[19:21] <cprofitt> talk to you later.
[19:41] <paultag> bkerensa: yeah, sure, but I'm just leaving the office
[19:41] <paultag> bkerensa: you can PM me and I'll return the messages, or email me and I can answer on my phone, perhaps
[19:42] <paultag> BBL :)
[22:45]  * bkerensa pings paultag
[22:45] <paultag> bkerensa: pong