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* skaet waves15:01
MootBotMeeting started at 10:02. The chair is skaet.15:02
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:02
skaet[Topic] Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_15:02
skaetAgenda is at:15:02
skaet[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-09-0515:02
skaetA couple of folk are traveling, and having schedule conflicts, so we'll be moving a few folks around from the usual pattern today.15:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_15:02
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-09-0515:02
skaetEvents Approaching:15:02
skaet• 11.10 FeatureFreeze : August 11, 2011 at 1800 UTC15:02
skaet• Beta 1: Sept 1, 2011.15:02
skaetOther News:15:03
skaetAlpha 3 11.10 release!   A big THANK YOU to all developers, testers and release team members who helped make it happen!!   :)15:03
skaetBugs targetted for this release can be found:15:03
skaet[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs15:03
skaetBugs milestoned for oneiric beta-1 are at:15:03
skaet[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=3914315:03
skaetReminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.15:03
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs15:03
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=3914315:03
skaetyup micahg ?15:03
micahglink to topic is broken15:03
micahgshould be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-0515:04
skaetsorry about that.15:04
skaet[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-0515:04
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-0515:04
skaetthanks for pointing it out micahg :)15:04
skaetany other questions?15:05
skaetif not,  on to the round table.15:05
skaet[TOPIC] QA team update -  pgraner15:05
MootBotNew Topic:  QA team update -  pgraner15:05
pgraner== Results of Alpha 3 ISO Testing ==15:06
pgranerThanks again to all the testers! We couldn't have done it with out you.15:06
pgranerTesting report15:06
pgraner[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport15:06
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport15:06
pgranerList of bugs found during testing15:06
pgraner[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport/Failures15:06
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport/Failures15:06
pgranerEmail of test bugs found broken out by team sent to ubuntu-devel15:06
pgraner[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-August/033904.html15:06
MootBotLINK received:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-August/033904.html15:06
pgranerThe QA team will be reviewing all bugs in 7 days and following up with the teams on the ones that have not changed status.15:06
pgranerNote to the defect analysts & engineering teams:15:06
pgraner13 bugs out of a total of 77 are still in New/Undecided status and need triage15:06
pgraner4 bugs are High or Critical importance and not assigned15:06
skaetThanks pgraner!15:06
skaetany questions?15:07
skaet[TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris15:07
MootBotNew Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - mlegris15:07
mlegrisHi all!15:07
mlegris[Week 31 Testing report]15:07
mlegris[link] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week31_2011.html15:07
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week31_2011.html15:07
mlegris*  Bug #810145 - unity-panel-service crashes15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 810145 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014515:07
mlegris*  Bug #708286 - Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700R15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708286 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70828615:07
mlegrisNext week will be reserved for Alpha 3 testing, so no report next week15:07
skaetThanks mlegris!15:08
skaetbugs have been noted.15:08
skaetany questions?15:08
skaet[TOPIC] Security team update15:09
MootBotNew Topic:  Security team update15:09
micahg[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:09
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:09
micahg[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html15:09
MootBotLINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html15:09
micahgWe are on the trend line for our assigned work items in our blueprints. We are trying to balance reactive security with work items at this time, and are getting to our remaining work items as time allows. We are hopeful several apparmor work items that our team is responsible for will be completed in the coming weeks.15:09
micahgI don't really see any bugs worth highlighting for our team15:11
micahgI will mention that apparmor might need a freeze exception15:12
skaetthanks micahg!15:12
skaetappreciate the pre-warning about apparmor.15:12
skaetany questions?15:12
skaet[TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara15:12
MootBotNew Topic:  Kernel team update - ogasawara15:12
ogasawaraOverall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for Oneiric Beta-1 is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:15:12
ogasawara[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:12
ogasawara[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html15:12
ogasawara[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg15:12
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric15:12
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html15:12
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg15:12
ogasawaraThe first stable update from upstream for v3.0.1 has landed.  I plan to rebase our Oneiric kernel and upload today.  This upload will also contain misc bug fixes which we've been queuing.  We are even with our Beta 1 burn down line and are slightly over in our overall burndown.  We'll go through our remaining work items and get them sorted to keep us on track.  From a quick glance, the remaining work items are not release15:13
ogasawaraOf the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as follows:15:13
ogasawara#542660: looks to be related to EFI boot not loading the video bios into ram.15:13
ogasawara#557261: bug reporter has followed up in the upstream bug report regarding the driver warning, still no response yet.  Still not convinced the driver warning is the root cause of the usb-creator persistence issue.  Asked for testing with Alpha 3.15:13
ogasawara#754711: on a 3.0 oneiric kernel, system now suspends but doesn't resume.  systemtap debug scripts to help investigate are being worked on for Oneiric, see 815944.15:13
ogasawara#758486: updated debug information attached, investigation ongoing.15:13
ogasawara#760131: partly fixed in Oneiric and soon natty, more analysis ongoing upstream.15:13
ogasawara#784937: investigation by kernel dev still ongoing as well as discussion with upstream.15:13
ogasawara#790712: the order 5 allocation seems to be bogus and non-fatal; further investigation ongoing.15:13
ogasawara#791850: kernel dev able to reproduce on a CentOS test system. investigation remains ongoing but at least not blocking on amazon now.15:13
skaetThanks ogasawara!15:14
* skaet looks around...15:14
skaetok,  moving on15:14
skaet[TOPIC] Foundations team update15:14
MootBotNew Topic:  Foundations team update15:14
skaetanyone from foundations around today?15:16
skaetmoving on then....15:16
skaet[TOPIC] Server team update - Daviey15:16
MootBotNew Topic:  Server team update - Daviey15:16
Davieyshort one this week.15:16
DavieyThere isn't much to report due to the largely successful Alpha  release.  However, looking forward it is expected that the ISO will be somewhat unstable for the next ~2 weeks with the mountain of MIR's begining to land.15:17
DavieyThe release bugs which are being tracked by us, if there are any missing please let me know ASAP:15:17
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html15:17
DavieyNext week most of the server team will be attending various sprints, including an LXC and an OpenStack one.  Which means that the global overview might not recieve as much attention as we will be working on specific bugs and feature work.15:17
skaetThanks Daviey!15:17
DavieyJust one comment..15:17
DavieyWe might be needing some help from AA's to work through our queue.15:18
DavieyAnd we might require a blanket freeze exception for a few packages we are sharing development cycle of.15:18
DavieyThat is really EOF now.15:19
* skaet appreciated the nice low drama A3 from the server team, btw.15:19
Davieyskaet: It just means there is more fun next milestone :)15:19
skaetDaviey,  yup.15:19
* hggdh shudders, but just a bit15:19
skaetwhen will you have a breakdown of what's going to need FFE?15:19
Davieyskaet: Mid next week.15:20
DavieyOr at least by release meting next week15:20
skaethmm,  just before FF on Thursday huh...  :/15:21
skaetah well.15:21
skaetany other questions for server team?15:21
Davieyskaet: Well we won't need FFe before FF :)15:21
* skaet likes micahg's approach ... ;)15:21
skaet[TOPIC] ARM team update - NCommander or ogra_15:22
MootBotNew Topic:  ARM team update - NCommander or ogra_15:22
ogra_= Full Status is at: =15:22
ogra_= Summary =15:22
ogra_ - Bootstrapping of armhf in ubuntu has started15:22
ogra_ - Live build issues with filesystem resize speed are still being investigated15:22
ogra_ - Kernel/bootloader postinst handling for arm is fixed.15:22
ogra_ - Cleanup of jasper (our resizing tool) is ongoing15:22
ogra_ - AC100 image is in progess15:22
ogra_ - mx5 images are in progress15:22
ogra_ - new unique tests for server features were implemented during server QA testing15:22
ogra_= Image Status =15:22
ogra_ - Desktop images built fine15:22
ogra_ - Server images build and install fine15:22
ogra_ - Netboot images work fine15:23
ogra_= Specs =15:23
ogra_ - Entire http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html15:23
ogra_ - B1 http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html15:23
ogra_   (the tracker has not been fixed yet for the new LP name of the ubuntu-arm team)15:23
ogra_thats all :)15:23
skaetThanks ogra_ !15:23
skaetwhen will the ac100 and mx5 images first show up in the dailies?15:23
ogra_i hope latest by mid next week for ac100, cant easily say for mx5 since the developer doing it was lacking hardware until recnetly15:24
* skaet is starting to worry its getting very close to FF time...15:24
ogra_yes :(15:24
skaetok,  will keep fingers crossed.15:25
skaetis netboot omap3 figured out?15:25
ogra_:) we'll make it, no worries :)15:25
ogra_i think NCommander was looking at it, there is a bug on the status wikipage15:25
ogra_bug 82062115:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 820621 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "netinstall fails to make omap system bootable during install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82062115:26
skaetogra_, ok,  will ask him about it a bit later then. :)   thanks.15:26
skaetany other questions for arm team?15:26
skaet[TOPIC] Linaro update - rsalveti or fabo15:27
MootBotNew Topic:  Linaro update - rsalveti or fabo15:27
* skaet looks around for fabo or rsalveti ???15:28
skaet[TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team -  Chipaca or joshuahoover15:29
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu One Team -  Chipaca or joshuahoover15:29
skaethmm... doesn't look like they're around either.15:29
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Team update - kenvandine15:29
MootBotNew Topic:  Desktop Team update - kenvandine15:29
* kenvandine waves15:29
kenvandine[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus15:29
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus15:29
kenvandinenot much to report a3 was quiet for us15:30
kenvandinehowever, we expect lots to land right at FF15:30
kenvandineso expect fun next week :)15:30
* skaet will put out a plea for AA's...15:30
kenvandinenothing else to report, questions?15:31
skaetany update on when the lightdm fixes will be landing?15:31
kenvandinenot really, i would expect next week though15:32
kenvandinerobert has been away15:32
kenvandinebut will be back from vacation monday, however at desktop summit15:32
kenvandinebut afaik we aren't concerned about it15:32
kenvandineshould be ok :)15:32
skaetkenvandine, ok.  thanks for setting expectations.   Some of the interactions need to be sorted with the flavours a bit.15:33
kenvandinepitti will be back next week, sort of15:33
skaeti'll follow up with him and pitti next week.  :)15:34
skaetpitti at desktop summit too?15:34
kenvandinehackfest after desktop summit15:34
kenvandinenot sure if he is going to be at the summit too15:34
skaetfair enough.   anyone else have questions?15:34
kenvandinebut he will be online at least15:34
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel15:35
MootBotNew Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel15:35
dbarthusual report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/OneiricReleaseStatus15:35
dbarthnot everyone's at the desktop summit15:35
dbarthgood news: we have a nice unity update, with new lens views, along with the lib update earlier this week15:35
dbarthand it's making its way also in unity-2d15:36
dbarthbad news: we're badly stuck with compiz15:36
dbarthissues with gsettings (just solved 15 min. ago, hoping not to find more later on)15:36
dbarthand the stacking issue is still not fixed15:37
dbarthwe'll be generating new tarballs and test pacakages this week-end, to get some proper testing for next week15:37
dbarthand finally on the CJK issue: brandon updated his patch, this should be the right one for an ubuntu upload15:38
dbarth(didrocks said he was pleased, so i trust him :)15:38
dbarthwe identified a gap in the ZG FTS extension, but nothing ,ajor15:38
dbarthand im/ibus support work started this week15:39
skaetThanks dbarth!15:39
skaetnext wednesday for the drop?15:39
dbarthyes, that's the plan15:40
dbarthbe with us on wednesday15:40
skaetcoolio.   :)15:40
skaetany other questions for dbarth ?15:41
dbarthbut ahem, i'll have an FFE or two as well15:41
dbarthmissing views in the dash (we're too tight) and a new lens15:41
dbarthby views, i mean previews for certain doc. types; the overall structure will be in place15:42
skaetack.   consider expectations set.15:43
* skaet keeping fingers crossed is not too far after FF15:43
skaet[TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK15:44
MootBotNew Topic:  Kubuntu Team update - ScottK15:44
* skaet looks around for ScottK?15:45
skaet[TOPIC] Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage or stgraber15:45
MootBotNew Topic:  Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage or stgraber15:45
skaet[TOPIC] Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca15:46
MootBotNew Topic:  Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca15:46
* charlie-tca nods15:46
charlie-tcaAlpha3 was not released for Xubuntu; images worked Monday and failed after that.15:46
charlie-tcaWe are still trying to find the cause15:46
charlie-tca* #789333: "users-admin crashes on start because of mixed GTK2 and 3 symbols"15:46
charlie-tcaI don't know what we will do for this one yet15:47
charlie-tcaWe are trying not to use gtk3 since Xfce 4.8 doesn't need it15:47
charlie-tca* #799238: "Xubuntu i386 and amd64 20110618 xserver abort" - resolved with current xorg15:47
charlie-tca* #799754: "Please let vendors easily provide their own config"15:48
charlie-tcaNeeds help to get it resolved from Robert Ancell15:48
charlie-tca* #820731: "Oneiric Ocelot Xubuntu Desktop images fail to install" - Still trying to find the reason; both Ubuntu and Kubuntu install to the same hardware15:48
charlie-tca* #820460: "Encrypted LVM install will not allow login in Xubuntu Alpha3" - Haven't had time to do anything with this yet.15:48
charlie-tcaThe other bugs are blocked by issues with lightdm15:48
skaetkenvandine, ^^15:49
charlie-tcaand, I am sorry, but15:49
charlie-tcalightdm has real issues for derivatives. The question right now is whether or not we will be able to use it.15:49
charlie-tcaAny questions?15:49
skaetThanks charlie-tca!15:49
kenvandineskaet, noted15:49
skaetcharlie-tca, will let you know if I hear further news on lightdm.15:50
charlie-tcaThank you15:50
skaetany quesitons for charlie-tca?15:50
skaet[TOPIC] Lubuntu Team update - gilir15:50
MootBotNew Topic:  Lubuntu Team update - gilir15:50
gilirhi :)15:51
gilir First, thanks to all people who make Lubuntu images possible :)15:51
gilirAlpha 3 is the 1st Lubuntu 0neiric IS0 in shape for testing15:51
gilirSo far, not so bad, essential items are working (installing, live session ...)15:52
gilirNext step is to finish updates of new upstream releases before FF15:52
gilirAnd try to switch back to lightdm by default if the problems reported by other flavors are solved15:52
gilirAlso, we will probably need some help to setup alternate ISO from daily builds, if they don't magically pop up on cdimages in the next days :)15:53
gilirAny questions ?15:53
skaetThanks gilir!   and congratulations on getting first Lubuntu images published!15:53
skaetwe're seeing a bit of space issues on cdimage,  so that might be a factor.15:54
skaetwe should be moving to more disk space next week,  but please let us know on #ubuntu-release if it looks like that may be a factor.15:54
skaetfor the alternate images.  :)15:55
skaetany other questions?15:55
skaet[TOPIC] Toolchain update - slangasek or doko15:55
MootBotNew Topic:  Toolchain update - slangasek or doko15:55
* skaet not sure they're here, but figured best to check again...15:56
skaetMOTU is not able to make it today,  so...15:56
skaet[TOPIC] any other business?   last comments/questions?15:56
MootBotNew Topic:  any other business?   last comments/questions?15:56
skaetgo micahg15:56
micahgI could give a quick MOTU update15:57
skaetplease do micahg15:57
micahg~440 packages in universe still FTBFS across all archs15:57
micahg~150 packages that haven't been merged from Debian this cycle15:57
micahg~160 requests for new upstream versions of software15:58
micahgeclipse will probably need an FFe15:58
micahgare links for any of the above interesting?15:58
skaetmicahg,  yes please.   nice and handy that way.15:58
micahg[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=upgrade-software-version15:59
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=upgrade-software-version15:59
micahg[LINK] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html15:59
MootBotLINK received:  https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html15:59
micahg[LINK] http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/oneiric.html#universe15:59
MootBotLINK received:  http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/oneiric.html#universe15:59
micahghelp from anyone appreciated16:00
* skaet nods 16:00
micahgI would suggest the first focus should be new version merges/updates before Feature freeze16:00
skaetThanks micahg!   appreciate you giving the update.  Yes new version merges should be done ASAP.  :)16:01
skaetany questions?16:01
skaetlooks like its that time.16:02
skaetthanks everyone for a good meeting!16:02
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:02.16:02
charlie-tcaThank you, skaet16:02
skaetThank you micahg, pgraner, mlegris, ogasawara,  Daviey, kenvandine, dbarth,  ogra_ charlie-tca, gilir!16:02
micahgthanks skaet16:02
charlie-tcagilir: congrats on alpha3!16:02
gilirthanks charlie-tca :)16:03
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ScottKSorry.  Didn't think there would be a meeting today.17:52
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