=== med is now known as med_out === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-zzz === Ursinha-zzz is now known as Ursinha === fader_ is now known as fader === med_out is now known as medberry === medberry is now known as med_out === dinda is now known as Guest88396 [15:01] * skaet waves [15:01] o/ [15:02] #startmeeting [15:02] Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is skaet. [15:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:02] [Topic] Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_ [15:02] . [15:02] Agenda is at: [15:02] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-09-05 [15:02] A couple of folk are traveling, and having schedule conflicts, so we'll be moving a few folks around from the usual pattern today. [15:02] New Topic: Oneiric Release Meeting overview - skaet_ [15:02] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-09-05 [15:02] . [15:02] Events Approaching: [15:02] • 11.10 FeatureFreeze : August 11, 2011 at 1800 UTC [15:02] • Beta 1: Sept 1, 2011. [15:02] . [15:03] Other News: [15:03] Alpha 3 11.10 release! A big THANK YOU to all developers, testers and release team members who helped make it happen!! :) [15:03] . [15:03] Bugs targetted for this release can be found: [15:03] [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs [15:03] Bugs milestoned for oneiric beta-1 are at: [15:03] [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=39143 [15:03] . [15:03] Reminder: please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing. If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait. [15:03] LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs [15:03] LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=39143 [15:03] questions? [15:03] .. [15:03] o/ [15:03] yup micahg ? [15:03] link to topic is broken [15:03] s/topic/agenda/ [15:04] should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-05 [15:04] .. [15:04] s/09/08/ [15:04] yup. [15:04] sorry about that. [15:04] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-05 [15:04] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-08-05 [15:04] thanks for pointing it out micahg :) [15:05] any other questions? [15:05] if not, on to the round table. [15:05] [TOPIC] QA team update - pgraner [15:05] New Topic: QA team update - pgraner [15:06] == Results of Alpha 3 ISO Testing == [15:06] Thanks again to all the testers! We couldn't have done it with out you. [15:06] Testing report [15:06] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport [15:06] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport [15:06] List of bugs found during testing [15:06] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport/Failures [15:06] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport/Failures [15:06] Email of test bugs found broken out by team sent to ubuntu-devel [15:06] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-August/033904.html [15:06] LINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-August/033904.html [15:06] The QA team will be reviewing all bugs in 7 days and following up with the teams on the ones that have not changed status. [15:06] Note to the defect analysts & engineering teams: [15:06] 13 bugs out of a total of 77 are still in New/Undecided status and need triage [15:06] 4 bugs are High or Critical importance and not assigned [15:06] .. [15:06] Thanks pgraner! [15:07] any questions? [15:07] [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris [15:07] New Topic: Hardware Certification team update - mlegris [15:07] Hi all! [15:07] :) [15:07] [Week 31 Testing report] [15:07] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week31_2011.html [15:07] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week31_2011.html [15:07] . [15:07] Bugs: [15:07] * Bug #810145 - unity-panel-service crashes [15:07] Launchpad bug 810145 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810145 [15:07] * Bug #708286 - Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700R [15:07] Launchpad bug 708286 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708286 [15:07] . [15:07] Next week will be reserved for Alpha 3 testing, so no report next week [15:07] .. [15:08] Thanks mlegris! [15:08] bugs have been noted. [15:08] any questions? [15:09] [TOPIC] Security team update [15:09] New Topic: Security team update [15:09] o/ [15:09] :) [15:09] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [15:09] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [15:09] [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html [15:09] LINK received: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-security.html [15:09] We are on the trend line for our assigned work items in our blueprints. We are trying to balance reactive security with work items at this time, and are getting to our remaining work items as time allows. We are hopeful several apparmor work items that our team is responsible for will be completed in the coming weeks. [15:10] ..? [15:11] I don't really see any bugs worth highlighting for our team [15:12] I will mention that apparmor might need a freeze exception [15:12] .. [15:12] thanks micahg! [15:12] appreciate the pre-warning about apparmor. [15:12] any questions? [15:12] [TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara [15:12] New Topic: Kernel team update - ogasawara [15:12] Overall status is reported at the first link below. Burn down for Oneiric Beta-1 is at the second link below. Burndown for the cycle is at the third link: [15:12] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [15:12] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html [15:12] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg [15:12] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [15:12] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html [15:12] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team.svg [15:13] The first stable update from upstream for v3.0.1 has landed. I plan to rebase our Oneiric kernel and upload today. This upload will also contain misc bug fixes which we've been queuing. We are even with our Beta 1 burn down line and are slightly over in our overall burndown. We'll go through our remaining work items and get them sorted to keep us on track. From a quick glance, the remaining work items are not release [15:13] critical. [15:13] Of the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as follows: [15:13] #542660: looks to be related to EFI boot not loading the video bios into ram. [15:13] #557261: bug reporter has followed up in the upstream bug report regarding the driver warning, still no response yet. Still not convinced the driver warning is the root cause of the usb-creator persistence issue. Asked for testing with Alpha 3. [15:13] #754711: on a 3.0 oneiric kernel, system now suspends but doesn't resume. systemtap debug scripts to help investigate are being worked on for Oneiric, see 815944. [15:13] #758486: updated debug information attached, investigation ongoing. [15:13] #760131: partly fixed in Oneiric and soon natty, more analysis ongoing upstream. [15:13] #784937: investigation by kernel dev still ongoing as well as discussion with upstream. [15:13] #790712: the order 5 allocation seems to be bogus and non-fatal; further investigation ongoing. [15:13] #791850: kernel dev able to reproduce on a CentOS test system. investigation remains ongoing but at least not blocking on amazon now. [15:14] Questions? [15:14] .. [15:14] Thanks ogasawara! [15:14] * skaet looks around... [15:14] ok, moving on [15:14] [TOPIC] Foundations team update [15:14] New Topic: Foundations team update [15:15] slangasek? [15:15] hmm.. [15:16] anyone from foundations around today? [15:16] moving on then.... [15:16] [TOPIC] Server team update - Daviey [15:16] New Topic: Server team update - Daviey [15:16] o/ [15:16] short one this week. [15:17] There isn't much to report due to the largely successful Alpha release. However, looking forward it is expected that the ISO will be somewhat unstable for the next ~2 weeks with the mountain of MIR's begining to land. [15:17] The release bugs which are being tracked by us, if there are any missing please let me know ASAP: [15:17] http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html [15:17] LINK received: http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html [15:17] Next week most of the server team will be attending various sprints, including an LXC and an OpenStack one. Which means that the global overview might not recieve as much attention as we will be working on specific bugs and feature work. [15:17] Questions? [15:17] .. [15:17] Thanks Daviey! [15:17] Just one comment.. [15:18] We might be needing some help from AA's to work through our queue. [15:18] And we might require a blanket freeze exception for a few packages we are sharing development cycle of. [15:19] That is really EOF now. [15:19] * skaet appreciated the nice low drama A3 from the server team, btw. [15:19] o/ [15:19] skaet: It just means there is more fun next milestone :) [15:19] Daviey, yup. [15:19] * hggdh shudders, but just a bit [15:19] when will you have a breakdown of what's going to need FFE? [15:20] skaet: Mid next week. [15:20] Or at least by release meting next week [15:21] hmm, just before FF on Thursday huh... :/ [15:21] ah well. [15:21] any other questions for server team? [15:21] skaet: Well we won't need FFe before FF :) [15:21] * skaet likes micahg's approach ... ;) [15:22] [TOPIC] ARM team update - NCommander or ogra_ [15:22] New Topic: ARM team update - NCommander or ogra_ [15:22] hey [15:22] :) [15:22] = Full Status is at: = [15:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [15:22] -- [15:22] = Summary = [15:22] - Bootstrapping of armhf in ubuntu has started [15:22] - Live build issues with filesystem resize speed are still being investigated [15:22] - Kernel/bootloader postinst handling for arm is fixed. [15:22] - Cleanup of jasper (our resizing tool) is ongoing [15:22] - AC100 image is in progess [15:22] - mx5 images are in progress [15:22] - new unique tests for server features were implemented during server QA testing [15:22] -- [15:22] = Image Status = [15:22] - Desktop images built fine [15:22] - Server images build and install fine [15:23] - Netboot images work fine [15:23] -- [15:23] = Specs = [15:23] - Entire http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [15:23] - B1 http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html [15:23] (the tracker has not been fixed yet for the new LP name of the ubuntu-arm team) [15:23] -- [15:23] thats all :) [15:23] .. [15:23] Thanks ogra_ ! [15:23] when will the ac100 and mx5 images first show up in the dailies? [15:24] i hope latest by mid next week for ac100, cant easily say for mx5 since the developer doing it was lacking hardware until recnetly [15:24] * skaet is starting to worry its getting very close to FF time... [15:24] yes :( [15:25] ok, will keep fingers crossed. [15:25] is netboot omap3 figured out? [15:25] :) we'll make it, no worries :) [15:25] i think NCommander was looking at it, there is a bug on the status wikipage [15:26] bug 820621 [15:26] Launchpad bug 820621 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "netinstall fails to make omap system bootable during install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820621 [15:26] ogra_, ok, will ask him about it a bit later then. :) thanks. [15:26] any other questions for arm team? [15:27] [TOPIC] Linaro update - rsalveti or fabo [15:27] New Topic: Linaro update - rsalveti or fabo [15:28] * skaet looks around for fabo or rsalveti ??? [15:29] [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca or joshuahoover [15:29] New Topic: Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca or joshuahoover [15:29] hmm... doesn't look like they're around either. [15:29] [TOPIC] Desktop Team update - kenvandine [15:29] New Topic: Desktop Team update - kenvandine [15:29] * kenvandine waves [15:29] :) [15:29] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus [15:29] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus [15:30] not much to report a3 was quiet for us [15:30] however, we expect lots to land right at FF [15:30] so expect fun next week :) [15:30] * skaet will put out a plea for AA's... [15:31] nothing else to report, questions? [15:31] any update on when the lightdm fixes will be landing? [15:32] not really, i would expect next week though [15:32] robert has been away [15:32] but will be back from vacation monday, however at desktop summit [15:32] but afaik we aren't concerned about it [15:32] should be ok :) [15:33] kenvandine, ok. thanks for setting expectations. Some of the interactions need to be sorted with the flavours a bit. [15:33] pitti will be back next week, sort of [15:34] i'll follow up with him and pitti next week. :) [15:34] pitti at desktop summit too? [15:34] hackfest after desktop summit [15:34] ahh... [15:34] ok [15:34] not sure if he is going to be at the summit too [15:34] fair enough. anyone else have questions? [15:34] but he will be online at least [15:35] :) [15:35] [TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel [15:35] New Topic: Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth or njpatel [15:35] hey [15:35] :) [15:35] usual report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/OneiricReleaseStatus [15:35] not everyone's at the desktop summit [15:35] good news: we have a nice unity update, with new lens views, along with the lib update earlier this week [15:36] and it's making its way also in unity-2d [15:36] bad news: we're badly stuck with compiz [15:36] issues with gsettings (just solved 15 min. ago, hoping not to find more later on) [15:37] and the stacking issue is still not fixed [15:37] we'll be generating new tarballs and test pacakages this week-end, to get some proper testing for next week [15:38] and finally on the CJK issue: brandon updated his patch, this should be the right one for an ubuntu upload [15:38] (didrocks said he was pleased, so i trust him :) [15:38] :) [15:38] we identified a gap in the ZG FTS extension, but nothing ,ajor [15:39] and im/ibus support work started this week [15:39] .. [15:39] Thanks dbarth! [15:39] next wednesday for the drop? [15:40] yes, that's the plan [15:40] be with us on wednesday [15:40] coolio. :) [15:41] any other questions for dbarth ? [15:41] but ahem, i'll have an FFE or two as well [15:41] .....? [15:41] missing views in the dash (we're too tight) and a new lens [15:42] by views, i mean previews for certain doc. types; the overall structure will be in place [15:43] ack. consider expectations set. [15:43] :) [15:43] * skaet keeping fingers crossed is not too far after FF [15:44] [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK [15:44] New Topic: Kubuntu Team update - ScottK [15:45] * skaet looks around for ScottK? [15:45] [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage or stgraber [15:45] New Topic: Edubuntu Team update - highvoltage or stgraber [15:46] [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca [15:46] New Topic: Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca [15:46] * charlie-tca nods [15:46] :) [15:46] Alpha3 was not released for Xubuntu; images worked Monday and failed after that. [15:46] We are still trying to find the cause [15:46] * #789333: "users-admin crashes on start because of mixed GTK2 and 3 symbols" [15:47] I don't know what we will do for this one yet [15:47] We are trying not to use gtk3 since Xfce 4.8 doesn't need it [15:47] * #799238: "Xubuntu i386 and amd64 20110618 xserver abort" - resolved with current xorg [15:48] * #799754: "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [15:48] Needs help to get it resolved from Robert Ancell [15:48] * #820731: "Oneiric Ocelot Xubuntu Desktop images fail to install" - Still trying to find the reason; both Ubuntu and Kubuntu install to the same hardware [15:48] * #820460: "Encrypted LVM install will not allow login in Xubuntu Alpha3" - Haven't had time to do anything with this yet. [15:48] The other bugs are blocked by issues with lightdm [15:49] kenvandine, ^^ [15:49] and, I am sorry, but [15:49] lightdm has real issues for derivatives. The question right now is whether or not we will be able to use it. [15:49] Any questions? [15:49] .. [15:49] Thanks charlie-tca! [15:49] skaet, noted [15:50] charlie-tca, will let you know if I hear further news on lightdm. [15:50] Thank you [15:50] any quesitons for charlie-tca? [15:50] [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team update - gilir [15:50] New Topic: Lubuntu Team update - gilir [15:51] hi :) [15:51] :) [15:51] First, thanks to all people who make Lubuntu images possible :) [15:51] +1 [15:51] Alpha 3 is the 1st Lubuntu 0neiric IS0 in shape for testing [15:52] So far, not so bad, essential items are working (installing, live session ...) [15:52] Next step is to finish updates of new upstream releases before FF [15:52] And try to switch back to lightdm by default if the problems reported by other flavors are solved [15:53] Also, we will probably need some help to setup alternate ISO from daily builds, if they don't magically pop up on cdimages in the next days :) [15:53] Any questions ? [15:53] .. [15:53] Thanks gilir! and congratulations on getting first Lubuntu images published! [15:54] we're seeing a bit of space issues on cdimage, so that might be a factor. [15:54] +1 [15:54] we should be moving to more disk space next week, but please let us know on #ubuntu-release if it looks like that may be a factor. [15:55] for the alternate images. :) [15:55] any other questions? [15:55] [TOPIC] Toolchain update - slangasek or doko [15:55] New Topic: Toolchain update - slangasek or doko [15:56] * skaet not sure they're here, but figured best to check again... [15:56] MOTU is not able to make it today, so... [15:56] [TOPIC] any other business? last comments/questions? [15:56] New Topic: any other business? last comments/questions? [15:56] o/ [15:56] go micahg [15:57] I could give a quick MOTU update [15:57] please do micahg [15:57] :) [15:57] ~440 packages in universe still FTBFS across all archs [15:57] ~150 packages that haven't been merged from Debian this cycle [15:58] ~160 requests for new upstream versions of software [15:58] eclipse will probably need an FFe [15:58] are links for any of the above interesting? [15:58] micahg, yes please. nice and handy that way. [15:59] [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=upgrade-software-version [15:59] LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=upgrade-software-version [15:59] [LINK] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [15:59] LINK received: https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [15:59] [LINK] http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/oneiric.html#universe [15:59] LINK received: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/oneiric.html#universe [16:00] help from anyone appreciated [16:00] * skaet nods [16:00] I would suggest the first focus should be new version merges/updates before Feature freeze [16:00] .. [16:01] Thanks micahg! appreciate you giving the update. Yes new version merges should be done ASAP. :) [16:01] any questions? [16:02] looks like its that time. [16:02] thanks everyone for a good meeting! [16:02] #endmeeting [16:02] Meeting finished at 11:02. [16:02] Thank you, skaet [16:02] Thank you micahg, pgraner, mlegris, ogasawara, Daviey, kenvandine, dbarth, ogra_ charlie-tca, gilir! [16:02] thanks skaet [16:02] thx! [16:02] gilir: congrats on alpha3! [16:03] thanks charlie-tca :) === med_out is now known as medberry === dlm_ is now known as dlm === medberry is now known as med_eatz [17:52] Sorry. Didn't think there would be a meeting today. === Ender is now known as JasonO === med_eatz is now known as med_afk === med_afk is now known as med_out === yofel_ is now known as yofel === med_out is now known as medberry