[00:16] <rww> h00k: Conditions under which you can banforward from one channel to another on freenode: 1) you are currently opped in both channels, or 2) you are opped in the source channel and the destination channel is +F. autobleh attempts to op you in both channels to fulfil (1).
[00:16] <rww> (#ubuntu-ops is +F)
[02:10] <rww> Heh, eir-ubottu's getting thrown straight into #ubuntu? I would have expected #ubuntu-offtopic or some other less intense channel that wouldn't mind breakage so much :P
[02:27] <elky> rww if it goes in -ot, we'll probably start trying to make it break.
[02:28] <rww> Perhaps the bots team secretly agrees with me and plans to make it break by removing all of #ubuntu's bans :3
[02:29] <rww> but my problematic sense of humor aside, I'm glad it's happening :)
[02:31] <rww> any particular reason not to remove all those +q nick!*@* set by FloodBot? I assume the users involved are either banned by IP or k-lined :\
[02:33] <elky> they shouldn't be there longer than a week, but afaik nobody in the bots team has figured a way to check this or something
[02:33] <elky> oh, misread
[02:34] <rww> sorry, I veered onto a different topic
[02:36] <elky> you might notice that some of them are strings which are not welcome, or are symbolic "this person is  banned here but is hard to actually keep out"
[02:37] <rww> they're owned by FloodBot, and are thus automatic ;)
[02:39] <rww> cute, I can't find them in BT :\
[02:40] <rww> anyways, the only ones I consider objectionable out of http://paste.debian.net/hidden/181b1c61/ are the ikonia* ones, and maco already covered that with a wildcard +q
[02:40]  * rww really doubts we can mute every misspelled permutation of staffer nicks
[02:47] <elky> the ikonia ones are a bit too specific given the pattern they're banning. just get rid of all those
[02:50] <rww> done
[02:54] <rww> oops, missed two
[02:57] <h00k> rww: ah, that's what it is
[02:58] <rww> h00k: it's another one of those ircd-seven things that people don't tend to know :)
[02:58] <h00k> rww: :d
[02:59] <rww> ps, yes, I know I'm opped in #ubuntu. I'm looking through the ban list for removal candidates again and don't feel like spamming the channel with +-o
[03:00] <h00k> HEY rww, you know you're opped in #ubuntu?
[03:02] <elky> can we just ban that isp? :P
[03:03] <rww> I keep awesome ideas like that for #ubuntu-offtopic, sorry.
[03:04] <rww> my rationale behind that ban is that keeping bans on lars's dynamic IPs is pointless, but having one for "you're evading this ban" is nice, so we may as well make one that catches him at least some of the time and is informative
[03:04] <rww> and then continue spamming banlist with him when he slips through and leave them for rww to clean up when he changes hostnames :P
[03:06] <elky> you seem to enjoy it so
[03:07] <h00k> apparently
[03:07] <h00k> I was tempted to /opme, /deop rww, /deopme
[03:07] <h00k> but decided not to
[03:07] <rww> some people count the number of steps in staircases or separate out M&M colors. I fix banlists :(
[03:08] <elky> h00k, he would have made you do the banlist cleaning instead
[03:08] <rww> elky: I hope you're appreciating, btw, that I'm keeping my definition of "removable ban" far, far away from UW :P
[03:08] <h00k> elky: :(
[03:08] <elky> rww, it probably needs reviewing, there'll be some multiples
[03:09] <rww> although that's mainly because it's rather easy to get on my "go away forever" list by trolling there
[03:09] <elky> hehe
[03:10] <elky> i can see several removables just at a quick glance. don't have time right now though
[03:11] <rww> It's not a huge concern. Unlike #ubuntu, that channel's scheduled to fill its banlist in years, not months.
[03:11] <rww> actually, it's not really a concern at all
[03:11] <rww> alrighty, #ubuntu's down below 70% again, I'm done for the day
[04:24] <Flannel> down to 70%?  You'll never get anywhere in life by shooting for average!
[04:30] <rww> Flannel: elky didn't like my plan for... more notable reductions :P
[04:30] <Flannel> rww: nuke the banlist from orbit?
[04:31] <rww> yes
[04:32] <elky> rww, clean banlists make it easier to keep track of who is actually banned
[04:33] <rww> I for one think we should give Bacta and r00t4rd3d a second chance, anyway. Perhaps they have become productive and pleasant members of society by now.
[04:34] <rww> (j/k)
[06:48] <bazhang> should program the floodbots to kick upon those
[06:49] <bazhang> ...
[06:49] <IdleOne> that would start the inevitable "I didn't get a warning" argument
[06:49] <bazhang> "so sensitive"
[06:54] <rww> IdleOne: !nowarning is <reply> The terms of service and IRC Guidelines you were linked to upon joining the channel constitute a warning about how to behave correctly. Your failure to read those guidelines is not a failing of the channel operators.
[06:54] <rww> :3
[06:54] <IdleOne> that solves it.
[06:54] <bazhang> s/failing/failure/
[06:54] <IdleOne> Now to get someone to approve having the bots kick on lmgtfy links
[06:55] <rww> nah, that's what trigger.pl is for
[06:56] <rww> it has been alleged that the r in rww stands for Robotic :P
[06:56] <IdleOne> heh
[06:58] <rww> I just had a mental image of me autokicking ubottu for replying to !test | lmgtfy.com
[06:59]  * rww shelves that idea
[07:04] <rww> LjL: Please examine your #ubuntu scrollback and figure out why +q Avinash_Sonawane!*@* and +q resc_user_2169!*@* weren't automatically removed when those users stopped failing at Enter usage.
[07:10] <rww> IdleOne: it's best to put the technical overview URL instead of a download server link so that 1) people can download flavors other than Ubuntu and Server, 2) people get the usual warnings about it being a developer snapshot.
[07:10] <rww> in #ubuntu+1's topic, that is
[07:11] <IdleOne> go ahead :)
[07:11] <rww> also the usual known issues and other notes that nobody reads >.>
[07:11] <bazhang> I read them
[07:12] <bazhang> QED, I'm a nobody
[08:20] <knome> can somebody look after painkiller in #xubuntu? i need to go, and i'm not sure how this will end
[08:25] <knome> looks like he's silent now, but for reference, he has been really thick (need to tell several times to do something), pasting multiline stuff and also used the f-word once
[08:40] <yagoo> there a reason for oCean to act like a troll?
[08:40] <yagoo> I can suggest google search results if it helps out people.
[08:40] <yagoo> no need to act rude oCean.
[08:40] <oCean> !google
[08:40] <oCean> See?
[08:40] <yagoo> just for the other ops see how you are acting out there.
[08:41] <yagoo> I did not say "google it"
[08:41] <yagoo> let all the other ops see in here how you love to troll in there..
[08:41] <yagoo> not helpful on your part.
[08:41] <yagoo> no thank you.
[08:41] <yagoo> "lotuspsychje, (try google: list of webcam secutity software site:wikipedia.org)"
[08:41] <yagoo> good bye
[08:42] <IdleOne> yagoo: sometimes even the most useful hints on what to google is not helpful to someone who just does'nt have the "fu"...err forget it. oCean stop trolling
[08:43] <oCean> I was typing something along those lines, but he parted
[08:44] <oCean> krazykrivda> unop: trying to exploit a script that I cannot edit to achieve rooting a device
[08:47] <Tm_T> aww
[09:31] <bazhang> * [DeltaEpsilon] (~jiojiojio@82-170-138-20.ip.telfort.nl): ijijojojjoj    Ginbuntu ?
 how can I open a program with notepad as a root?
[10:22] <bazhang> notepad?
[10:23] <bazhang> thought that was a windows app
[10:28] <jussi> bazhang: probably a user using the name "notepad" as a generic descriptive word.
[10:29] <bazhang> jussi, no, he said he saw it on his system, probably with his wine install
[10:29] <bazhang> he's a -cn user as well btw
[10:30] <jussi> oh. well could be I guess.
[10:31] <bazhang> wine--->programs--accessories yep
[10:32] <jussi> ahh, well that explains it
[10:32] <bazhang> he was trying "sudo vim" in -cn
[10:33] <bazhang> oh yay crossposting
[11:49] <bazhang> * CatFish (~CatFish@2001:5c0:1400:a::975) has joined #ubuntu
[11:49] <bazhang> is banned but still able to join
[11:50] <LjL> i don't see the ban
[11:51] <oCean> 42333 removed by rww
[11:51] <bazhang> argh
[11:51] <oCean> in his last-night removing frenzy
[12:17] <bazhang> troll detected
[12:20] <jpds> bazhang: That's my line.
[12:20] <bazhang> jpds, hehe
[12:21] <bazhang> Ryan___ is giving some odd advice
[12:22] <jpds> http://tinyurl.com/6jnf64o
[12:22] <bazhang> hehe
 rumba, u need to alias eth0 to r8169 with modprobe conf file
[12:35] <bazhang> sounds really wrong
 rumba, rtfm
[12:37] <bazhang> ban forward imo
[12:37] <oCean> agree
[12:38] <bazhang> some very odd advice, arguing, and then very aggressively outside the code of conduct
[12:40] <oCean> and then left?
[12:40] <bazhang> immediately thereafter
[12:41] <Pici> Thats what ryan__ did too
 but there is not hacking tools on Ubuntu
[12:44] <oCean> forward set
[12:50] <bazhang> ionite is asking the same questions over and over
[12:50] <bazhang> now in #kubuntu , earlier crossposting there and #ubuntu
[13:27] <bazhang> * [Guest84149] (3ebe330c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.190.51.12): 62.190.51.12 - http://webchat.freenode.net
[13:28] <bazhang> seveaz?
[13:29] <Pici> bazhang: bazhang irssi is telling me that hes in Cambridge, UK today.
[13:29] <bazhang> Pici, okay, odd that there is the nick "seveas" already in the channel
[14:06] <ikonia> wow, looks like I missed an evening of fun
[14:07] <Pici> ikonia: Just seeing your hilights from yesterday?
[14:07] <genii-around> ikonia spambots!
[14:07] <ikonia> such sillyness
[14:08] <Pici> It was crazy.
[14:08] <h00k> ikonia: STOP SPAMMING NOW THANKS
[14:08] <h00k> etc, etc.
[14:08] <ikonia> such stupidity also that people saying "hey ikonia stop spamming" when it's come from a user using the nick ikonia21
[14:08] <Pici> We had people dropping in #ubuntu just to say that.
[14:08] <ikonia> not a massive deal, appreciate the effort though
[14:08] <h00k> cause, you know, you can't /query or /msg, etc.
[14:09] <Pici> ikonia: One person claimed it was controlled by you because "isn't Matt Darcy ikonia's name?"
[14:09] <ikonia> I saw that genius thought process
[14:09] <ikonia> the fact that it's in my real name field
[14:10] <ikonia> I guess some people don't like having their internet contract terminated
[14:12] <jrib> well if I ever want to spam I know to change my nick to jrib12
[14:12] <jrib> :P
[14:13] <ikonia> yes,
[14:13] <h00k> genius idea, I bet nobody figures it out
[14:17] <jrib> please remove that statement from logs, thanks
[14:17] <ikonia> I've crashed my car,
[14:21] <popey> :D
[14:21] <popey> we were all thinking it
[14:26] <h00k> yes, yes we were.
[14:27] <ikonia> please remove my thought from the log
[14:27] <bazhang> ikonia, are you OK? re: the crash
[14:27] <ikonia> I need to post it in more logged channels
[14:27] <ikonia> bazhang: it cost my 370GBP in the USA to get it fixed
[14:27] <ikonia> bazhang: (I didn't really crash my car)
[14:29] <bazhang> gedit via ssh?
[14:31] <ikonia> ok, I'm off, got to setup my spam bot network for later.
[14:31]  * genii-around sips his coffee and ponders the repercussions if everyone prepended their questions with !ask
[14:32] <Pici> genii-around: It could make metabot's job a lot easier.
[14:33] <popey> GNNNNNNNN
[14:33] <h00k> UUU
[14:34] <jrib> bazhang: his X is just a black screen and he has unsaved documents in gedit (but he can ssh)
[14:35] <bazhang> jrib, ok thanks
[14:38] <bazhang> lasers was using lmgtfy to retaliate against lucky711x earlier
[14:40]  * jrib ponders lunch
[14:40]  * oCean forgot lunch
[14:43] <oCean> (~jorgito@213.37.138.156.dyn.user.ono.com):  Java IRC Hacks Bot
[14:47] <oCean> jorge_> its not necessary say some words   he brought that ^bot? or something?
[15:08] <bazhang> why is he asking if he's done it already?
[15:08] <bazhang> and successfully "downgraded" twice?
 lmao what ever man. someone commented on gnome. I said something. dont worry, ill leave though, dont want to bother you fine closed minded peoples. :) peace
[15:18] <rww> bazhang: recommendation: don't rely on arguably-broken FloodBot behavior to keep users out for more than a day :P
[15:18] <rww> (re: my highlight backlog)
[15:55] <genii-around> bazhang: I should probably add #xubuntu back into my channel list....
[15:55] <bazhang> genii-around, he's been asked to stop crossposting, but ignored
[16:11] <sdhasu> whats wrong with saying fuck?
[16:11] <sdhasu> fuck fuck fuck
[16:12] <h00k> ubottu: tell sdhasu about CoC
[16:12] <bazhang> !guidelines | sdhasu
[17:04] <Pici> 13:04:16 <?[THC]AcidRain> Pici, im like a little high school kid in the public school system that smarts off to the teacher every so often knowing i can get away with it.
[17:05] <h00k> :(
[17:29] <rww> I'm entirely unsurprised to find that they have BT entries
[17:40] <Myrtti> !bg
[17:40] <Myrtti> too fast
[17:40] <rww> 3 people in it :(
[17:42] <Pici> There are four lights
[17:42] <Pici> oh dear
[17:42] <genii-around> hence maybe the "please idle there patiently"
[17:42] <h00k> go left
[17:46] <Myrtti> universe, go surprise me
[18:45] <neverblue> status of jpalmer ?
[18:45] <neverblue> vacation ?
[18:45] <Pici> neverblue: What?
[18:45] <neverblue> whats up with jpalmer ?
[18:46] <neverblue> haven't seen him in a few weeks
[18:46] <Pici> neverblue: Why are you asking us?
[18:46] <neverblue> he is an ops in ##windows and #ubuntu
[18:46] <neverblue> figured some in here would know
[18:46] <Pici> neverblue: He is not an op in #ubuntu
[18:46] <neverblue> he -was-, wasn't he ?
[18:46] <Pici> Never.
[18:46] <neverblue> sorry, my mistake
[18:47] <Pici> I don't even know who that is.
[18:47] <jrib> same here
[18:47] <Myrtti> anything else we can help you with, neverblue?
[18:47] <jrib> neverblue: I'd suggest sending a memo as he'll likely get an e-mail
[18:47] <neverblue> true, good point
[18:47] <neverblue> Myrtti: sorry for disrupting :)
[18:47] <Pici> odd.[B
[19:24] <rww> @comment 42396 seanmc98 has been asked repeatedly to stop asking support questions in #ubuntu-offtopic and still is. Remove banforward once user has agreed to follow channel topic and listen to ops instead of /parting, coming back later, and ignoring them.
[19:27] <rww> someone joined the channel and greeted ikonia. MUST BE A TROLL </paranoia>
[20:38] <jrib> heh
 anyone want to make a gnome2 fork with me?
[22:05] <bazhang> not sure thats really a fork. more like a dead end
[22:05] <rww> pretty much. as I've said elsewhere, KDE 3 continuations are a model for that
[22:12] <LjL> you're a dead end
[22:14] <Myrtti> I for one welcome all new users of Xubuntu :-P
[22:17] <jrib> what's the difference between what people want from gnome and metacity with gnome applications?
[23:35] <IdleOne>  FaTHeRBaDTouCH (~harold@CPE0026f3211c30-CM0026f3211c2d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
[23:36] <IdleOne> haven't we removed them for that nick before?
[23:56] <bazhang> should have done
[23:56] <bazhang> very offensive imo