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jdevelThis is a config for dovecot, in the example at http://pastebin.com/rWJSSuXk in the auth default{user = root} does this user really need to be root?  Why not the virtual_mail user?00:15
bkerensajdevel: I dont think it requires root00:25
patdk-lapjdevel, what kind of example is that? looks very old00:26
jdevelI found it on the web00:28
jdevelI'm sure it is old00:28
patdk-lapwell, if you need root or not all depends on how you have the sql setup00:29
patdk-lapdoes it need root to access the sql server?00:29
jdevelit shouldn't, I have all the postfix virtual user/domain data in a database with it's own user00:29
jdeveland that user is used to do the authentication00:29
patdk-lapyes, but how does it access it? socket? tcp? ...00:29
jdevelI believe it's using a socket00:30
jdevelso it's a postfix, dovecot, saslauthd, mysql setup00:31
jdevelusing mysql to handle the virtual users00:31
patdk-lapjust make it whatever you want, like, dovecot00:35
jdevelanyone know a good open relay test?00:39
jdevelsomething fast00:39
jdevelother than telnet00:40
rwwjdevel: as in mailserver open relay?00:44
alamarthere's one from abuse.com iirc00:45
alamarer.. abuse.net00:45
rwwhttp://www.abuse.net/relay.html (first Google result for "open relay test")00:45
alamarthat's the one %)00:45
zuladam_g: dealing with tired 4 year old whats up?01:08
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DanaGargh, stupid forked-daapd... doesn't respond to sigterm.01:39
twbofftopic, but I have a strange behaviour -- wine1.2 is installed (from lucid-updates), but dpkg -L says that package doesn't contain wineprefixcreate.  WTF.01:56
twband yet packages.ubuntu.com lists it in wine1.0 and wine1.2's Contents files for i386 lucid01:58
rwwIt's in lucid's and not lucid-update's, according to packages.ubuntu.com.02:02
* rww pages through changelogs02:02
rwwah. http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Wineprefixcreate says it's deprecated02:03
twbrww: thanks.02:15
twbrww: that's gonna screw with me because I'm create a partial wine skeleton, and I'm using wineprefixcreate to finish populating .wine with default values02:15
twbIs there another way in e.g. /etc/skel to set up wine registry and drive letter mappings, without having to have an entire .wine in /etc/skel?02:16
twbHaving the whole .wine in there is problematic because it e.g. includes user-specific /home/fred paths02:17
twbHmm, that page mentions using wineboot instead; I'll play with that02:21
braxtonHeeeeeello gents.02:51
braxtonI just installed a mail server via tasksel.02:52
braxtonI was able to send a message to my gmail, which was weird enough02:52
braxtonBut then when I replied, I couldn't figure out how to receive my mail on the server.02:52
Delerium_braxton, Replying from gmail to your server?02:53
braxtonI was a bit confused during the setup in tasksel.02:53
Delerium_braxton, Do you have you own domain with a MX records?02:53
braxtonIt asked me which type of mail server I wanted, or the configuration, that is, and I chose the second from the top--Internet.02:54
braxtonNo, I don't. I just used my IP address to reply.02:54
Delerium_(never use tasksel... I only install Zimbra ... So I'm just trying to help you out with the best of my knowledge)02:54
Delerium_braxton, that's probably the reason why ... when a email server is trying to "route" the email, it will look at the DNS to see if your domain have a MX records (which points to the mail server for your domain)02:55
braxtonI don't have a domain for the computer I used.02:56
braxtonSo, you're saying I can't just send an email to me@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?02:57
braxtonI think I know why!02:58
Delerium_braxton, Not using gmail, since I ***THINK** it will try to resolve the MX record in the DNS.  And if it's a local server (home), I guess port 25 might be blocked02:58
braxtonI didn't set up the port forwarding on my router and modem so that it would get to my computer.02:58
Delerium_braxton, indeed, that's something to tet02:58
braxtonI'm such a dunce. That's why it could get out but not back in.02:58
Delerium_.. test..02:58
Delerium_braxton, try it.. but I doubt ;)02:59
braxtonI think it might work, I can be hopeful :D02:59
Delerium_braxton, but again, I'm no expert02:59
braxtonPort 25, you say?02:59
twbThe obvious first question is: have you set up a mail server before?03:00
Delerium_SMTP: Port 25 - POP3 - Port 110 (if I remember correctly)03:00
twbThen: have you read what the Ubuntu Server Guide has to say about doing so?03:00
twbDelerium_: yes, MTAs will speak to one another using SMTP on port 25/tcp by default.03:00
Delerium_twb: and AFAIK, you need a MX record in a DNS ?  If not, you can't only "reply" to a IP Adress on which a SMTP is listening!?03:01
braxtonIt sort of worked, but not really.03:04
braxtonThis time, my server gave me an error code.03:04
Delerium_Which is?03:04
braxtonThe error that the other server returned was: 501 501 5.1.3 Bad recipient address syntax (state 14).03:04
twbYou need an MX RR, yes.03:13
braxtonIs it even possible to run a little mailserver from a home computer without a fqdn?03:13
twbbraxton: yes, but unless you own a domain, nobody will send it any email03:13
braxtonI'm just doing it as an experiment.03:14
braxtonI'd still like to know how, if at all, I can send an e-mail to it.03:14
DanaGCould you do it with dyndns?03:14
braxtonOh, well, yeah.03:15
braxtonI do have that set up already.03:15
braxtonOkay, at DynDNS, there's an option that says,03:16
braxton"I have mail server with another name and would like to add MX hostname..."03:16
braxtonShould I select that and what does it mean?03:16
DanaGTry without that option, with your dyndns.03:17
DanaGYou might as well, before enabling that option.03:17
braxtonOkay, so I sent it to the DynDNS address I already set up for web hosting.03:19
twbYou might as well ensure you can manually speak SMTP to it from the outside world before you bother with DNS03:19
braxtonGreat, that failed.03:19
braxtonThe error that the other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 <root@braxton-comic.dyndns.org>: Relay access denied (state 14).03:19
braxtonOkay, how should I go about doing that, twb?03:20
twbbraxton: relay means you asked it to deliver mail for a domain for which it is not responsible03:20
twbe.g. connecting to gmail and saying "hi, please accept this message for fred@example.com and send it on to him"03:20
braxtonSorry if I'm bothering you guys.03:20
twbDoing so would be an "open relay", which is not done these days because it's carte blanche for spammers.03:21
braxtonSo maybe that option should be selected?03:21
rwwbraxton: mailservers are hard. I spent a lot of hours scratching my head when I first started rolling my own ;)03:21
twbrww: hear, hear03:21
braxtonNow that you explain that error, twb, I think that option does make more sense now.03:22
braxtonI just don't know what to put there.03:22
twbWhat option?03:22
braxtonIt says, "I have mail server with another name and would like to add MX hostname..."03:22
braxtonAnd then below that it says, "Use this as my primary relay..."03:22
braxtonBut I don't know what an MX hostname is.03:23
twbbraxton: suppose you want to send mail to fred@example.net.  You do this by looking up the DNS MX RR(s) for "example.net" -- dig -t MX example.net +short03:25
twbbraxton: that tells you what host to connect to to send it mail03:25
braxtonSo what should I put in that field?03:26
twbrww: re wineprefixcreate vs. wineboot -- worked out how to use the latter, it's working better than before.  Thanks for your input.03:26
twbbraxton: well, you can have a look at my MXs -- prisonpc.com and cyber.com.au03:27
braxtontwb: I don't have an MX hostname, do I? :c03:27
twbI don't know what "MX hostname" means03:28
braxtonNeither do I.03:28
braxtonIt's asking for one, though.03:28
twbI can tell you about DNS zones, but I don't know what random DNS web frontends want03:29
rwwpresumably it means the hostname to put in the MX record03:29
braxtonI'm really sorry for my ignorance, and I appreciate your help.03:30
DanaGYou might make it the same as your http server.03:30
braxtonSo what, just put in the xxx.dyndns.org address in there?03:30
rwwbut yeah, I'm limited to what I know from experience with Real DNS™, not dynamic DNS :\03:30
twbAs rww said, setting up your own MTA is hard work.03:30
rwwbraxton: I'd probably try that, yes03:30
twbrww: eh, dynamic DNS is just short TTLs03:30
twbrww: dyndns.org OTOH have a bunch of "value adding" on top of that.03:30
braxtonI don't think it's going to let me do this. I'm just disappointed now.03:34
DanaGI use a dyndns that's .mooo.com03:35
DanaGOr rather, a dyndns competitor.03:35
BernhardHow do i create a hard link to this directory /usr/share/nginx/www/site/userfiles from this directory /usr/share/nginx/www/site2/             So when the website script on site2 want to create files in dir /userfiles it will be done in /usr/share/nginx/www/site/userfiles03:37
braxtonIsn't that done using ln or something?03:38
twbBernhard: you cannot hard-link directories.03:38
twbBernhard: well, technically, some filesystems allow you to do so, but it's still super bad juju03:39
Bernhardoke.. or symlink ?03:39
rwwcd /usr/share/nginx/www/site2/, then ln -s ../site/userfiles03:42
rwwI don't know whether this will actually achieve the end result you want, as I only use apache and it gets grumpy about symlinks at times, but that's how to do it ;)03:42
Bernhardshould that newly created symlink have the name of the directory it orginally to go to ?03:49
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free99hey all, seemingly random question: I have an encrypted home directory on my 11.04 server, when I logout, then log back in, I am getting an error regarding .gvfs03:58
free99apparently this is a problem that's been around for a while, someone suggested putting this into .logout: /bin/fusermount -zu "$HOME/.gvfs" 1>/dev/null 2>&1 || true03:59
free99is there perhaps a better method? I have also heard that (because I'm running GDM) I can put it into /etc/gd/PostSession/Default04:00
hggdhDaviey: when you wake up -- a bit more done, missing pretty much just the postinst, on my ~/+junk/cobbler-enroll204:01
hggdhDaviey: now I will hit the bed... back in 7 hours04:02
ewjI have to upgrade Apache and OpenSSH to versions ahead of the ones that come through apt-get in 8.04 - what's the easiest path there (i.e. the one that least likely involves me re-setting up the whole server from scratch while everyone complains about the services being down)?  Upgrade the distro altogether, compile from source, add a repo from a more recent distro?06:02
jmarsdenewj: Easiest is to see if the versions you need are already in hardy-backports -- if they are, use that repo and install the updated packages.06:16
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ewjjmarsden: hmm, no, backports doesn't seem to have them, unfortunately06:46
jmarsdenThen you need to decide which is lower risk for you: (a) upgrade the server to a new distro or (b) backport them yourself.06:46
ewjwhat's involved in a backport?06:47
ewjI realize that by asking that, it probably proves that it'll be too tough for me :)06:47
jmarsdenewj grab source package, unpack, change version, debuild, see what broke if anything (may new newer versions of other related packages, for instance), fix those things, retest... usual packaging stuff.06:48
ewjyeah, ok06:48
jmarsdenif you've never created a package, that's a high risk task.06:48
ewjhow risky is it to upgrade the distribution altogether?06:48
jmarsdenSo... back up the server and verify the backups, then do the upgrade.   How risky that is depends on what else the server does and how much its setup was customized in "interesting" ways in the past...06:49
ewjI've done it on desktop ubuntu before without much trouble, but this is a remote box that I have to ssh into, which makes it trickier06:49
jmarsdenewj: If your provider offers remote console stuff, and ideally a "boot rescue distribution" capability, it's safe enough.06:50
ewjsadly, there's no provider, it's a box sitting in someone's office on the other side of the country :(06:51
jmarsdenThen best you can do is do it when the other person is physically present at the box, in case you need someone to push buttons/tell you what is on the screen/etc.06:51
ewjthis damn box pretty much just serves up svn, I'm thinking it might be less trouble to yank that stuff off of it and set up a fresh svn server in the cloud, switch dns when it's working06:52
jmarsdenReplacing it with something more manageable sounds a good idea to me.  If you need a cheap virtual private server, look at linode.com or similar offerings...06:52
jmarsdenBut if it only servs up svn, why does it need ultra new ssh and apache???06:53
ewjyeah, the company has most of their servers running on a service like that, it'd probably be best to bring it all in line06:53
ewjeh, typical security audit stuff06:53
jmarsden8.04 server is still supported, shouldn't be any known security issues in ssh or apache on it...06:54
ewjsomeone in security ran a scan of the public ip, found old versions of apache/ssh06:54
ewjI know, that's what I thought, too06:54
jmarsdenBut did they find *vulnerabilities* in it?  That's the question.06:54
ewjNo, they found version numbers that suggest vulnerabilities, I think06:55
ewjBut try explaining the difference to a scanbot... :)06:55
jmarsdenThen you can just look up the possible vulbnerabilities, point them to the updates in the changelogs for those packages where the fixes were added...06:56
ewjthere's some stuff in there that's just DOS-related that actually doesn't appear to be patched in Hardy, at least as far as I could tell, too06:56
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jmarsdenOK.  Anyway... your company politics, not mine :)06:57
ewjyeah, you know how it goes sometimes...the overlord in this case is a biggish one, and I'm several steps removed (I'm just a consultant that would have been writing normal code if the company didn't have a hands-on-deck shortage at the moment), so I've gotta go with what they're asking for...06:59
ewjI'll figure it out one way or another, thanks for the advice :)06:59
jmarsdenewj: You're welcome.07:01
Davieyhggdh: you rock! :)07:09
smbDaviey, Do you think we get the MIR for ipxe sorted before feature freeze... Ok, I admit this is a bit of a put salt into open wound question and the we is rather a you of sorts...07:48
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Macerhello. it appears that when my server crashed grub just sat there at the menu. i edited grub.cfg and changed the -1 to 10 for recordfail. is this the right way to prevent it from just not booting if it crashes or loses power?09:09
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uvirtbotNew bug: #820101 in lm-sensors (main) "package libsensors3 1:2.10.8-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82010109:51
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Ursinhabom dia10:29
DavieyUrsinha: o/10:48
UrsinhaDaviey: morning, sir10:48
Davieyjust about.. almost afternoon ma'am.10:49
Dori922what does the "Source" command do?11:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #821077 in apache2 "Apache2 segfault with SSLProxyMachineCertificateFile (upstream patch not applied in ubuntu)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82107711:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #821183 in samba (main) "winbind won't connect to server during startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82118311:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #820540 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82054011:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #820953 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82095311:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #820968 in nova (universe) "nova-objectstore runs as root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82096811:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #820997 in eucalyptus (main) "instances lose public IP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82099711:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #821003 in eucalyptus (main) "UEC Node controller loses connectivity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82100311:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #821026 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesul s-a instalat scriptul post-installation returnează starea de eroare la ieșire 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82102611:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #821047 in exim4 (main) "package exim4-config 4.71-3ubuntu1.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesul s-a instalat scriptul post-installation returnează starea de eroare la ieșire 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82104711:23
Davieyoh golly.11:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820527 in backuppc (main) "package backuppc 3.2.0-3ubuntu4~lucid1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82052711:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820692 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 563039)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069211:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820785 in samba (main) "package samba (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82078511:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820866 in vlan (main) "ISO install problem: package vlan is missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82086611:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820867 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.7 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82086711:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820870 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.1-1~lucid1 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82087011:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820896 in clamav (main) "freshclam ERROR: Database load killed by signal 11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82089611:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820936 in apache2 (main) "Virtual server setup breaks Rewrite Rules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82093611:24
DavieyUrsinha: Having a good day? ^^ :)11:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #820239 in rabbitmq-server (main) "rabbitmq still being shown up from lightdm " [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82023911:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820339 in libvirt (main) "Live migration fails" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82033911:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820606 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: podproces nowy skrypt pre-installation zwrócił kod błędu 1" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82060611:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820691 in mysql-5.1 (main) "mysql will be stopped, but not started again, on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069111:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820700 in vsftpd (main) "vsftpd will be stopped, but not restarted, on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82070011:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820715 in lxc (main) "sudo poweroff -n within a container just hangs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82071511:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820743 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82074311:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #820675 in libvirt (main) "libvirt-bin upstart job will not be started again on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82067511:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820679 in samba (main) "nmbd and smbd will not be started again on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82067911:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820683 in autofs (main) "autofs will not be started again on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82068311:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820685 in dovecot (main) "dovecot does not start again on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82068511:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820687 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus services will not be started again on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82068711:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820690 in munin (main) "munin-node will be stopped but not re-started on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069011:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820694 in nova (universe) "nova upstart jobs will be stopped but not restarted on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069411:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820696 in sheepdog (universe) "sheepdog will be stopped but not restarted on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069611:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820698 in tftp-hpa (main) "tftpd-hpa will be stopped but not restarted on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069811:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820699 in tgt (main) "tgt will be stopped but not restarted on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82069911:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820720 in lxc (main) "lxc-ps -n NAME does not work (but --name NAME does)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82072011:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #820483 in samba (main) "package smbclient 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile retornou erro do status de saída 2" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82048311:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #820533 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82053311:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #820668 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler does not start on transition from runlevel 1 to 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82066811:27
Jeeves_Someone woke up :)11:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #820432 in eucalyptus "using name in register causes internal server error" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82043211:29
Ursinhaall of those bugs were already opened11:30
Ursinhamaybe the bot is crazy11:30
UrsinhaDaviey: can you access http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html normally?11:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #807351 in lxc (main) "it would be cool to be able to clone an lxc container onto aufs for test runs - ephemeral containers" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80735111:30
UrsinhaI can ping it bug I can't access via webbrowser11:31
DavieyUrsinha: no, it's down11:31
Ursinhaoh, wtf11:31
DavieyUrsinha: ask IS11:32
UrsinhaDaviey: just did that11:32
UrsinhaDaviey: I've been triaging a lot of bugs, it turns out that the sooner you reply the person that filed the bug, more the chances he actually replies that...11:37
Ursinhaand also... incomplete with response means that at least once the reporter replied11:38
Ursinhaso not really accurate for what I want that to mean11:38
Ursinhaso I've been asking them to set the bug back to new11:39
Ursinhaand that's helping11:39
DavieyUrsinha: rocking!11:40
UrsinhaDaviey: can we have a call today? :)11:40
DavieyUrsinha: sure, i'd like that.11:41
Bernhardis it possible to make an image from my 74 GB system disk and put in on an 300 GB harddisk so that it can boot from that 300 GB ???11:43
KM0201Bernhard: clonezilla?11:57
hggdhmornings, mostly good, to all12:17
hggdhDaviey: dear sir, comments?12:21
Davieyhggdh: looked good so far!12:23
Davieyhggdh: I'm not quite sure how post-install works in d-i12:23
jpdsDaviey got knighted?12:23
Davieyjpds: Yes.. i tend not to use it in public tho.12:24
Davieyhggdh: we don't have a /target i hope.. and that might be a requirement of post-install maintainer scripts.12:24
hggdhDaviey: IDK either, docs sucks to a sublime level on that. But it would make sense12:24
hggdhbut it has to be driven from something like that, somewhere12:25
hggdhDaviey: the other point of doubt is on ./debian/control, the udeb package, the XB-Installer-Menu-Item12:27
Davieyhggdh: yeah.. i just don't think it can be configured.12:27
Davieyas in dpkg --configure12:27
* hggdh had forgotten dpkg --configure12:27
hggdhDaviey: although --configure would drive the same questions we have to ask on install12:31
Davieyhggdh: Yeah, my knowledge of udebs isn't as strong as i need it12:33
hggdhthere is also a finish-install12:33
Davieyhggdh: yeah.. might need to block on Colin returning12:33
UrsinhaDaviey: status.qa is back12:34
UrsinhaSpamapS: hey, I see you filed a lot of runlevel1 bugs, what's the importance of them?12:35
hggdhDaviey: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/internals/ch03.html at 3.112:39
Davieyhggdh: yeah, not helpful enough :(12:40
Dori922what does the "Source" command do?12:47
DavieyDori922: 'source' ?  It is usually used for loading enviromental variables from a file12:50
Dori922Daviey:  thanks bro :D12:51
Daviey such as source ~/.bash_rc (PRO TIP.. people tend to use "." for source)12:51
DavieyWow, Dori922, are you my long lost brother i've been searching for all these years?12:51
Dori922Daviey:  i dont know.. am i? ;D12:52
hggdhDaviey: dpkg --configure will not matter for a udeb, udebs are not installed on running systems12:52
Davieyhggdh: top banana, that was my hope - but i didn't know12:53
DavieyI did think it would require a /target tho12:53
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hggdh /target, if I understand it correctly, will only be available when the base system is installed -- and I know there are udebs that process earlier, like euca (with a postinst and a finish-install scripts12:59
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AceKingI was in yesterday asking how to setup a file server. I received a lot of help in here, but with everything I tried on my own, I didn't accomplish anything. I tried setting up an FTP server using GADMIN-ProFTPD, and again just wasted a lot of time and got nowhere. Can someone attempt to help my sorry ass?13:19
AceKingWhat I am trying to do is this, I want to be able to setup a  folder with files, and have family to be able to log in and download from me.13:22
patdk-wkoh, so you dumped the gallery2 idea13:22
AceKingpatdk-wk, you were helping me yesterday13:22
patdk-wkdunno what gadmin-proftpd is at all13:23
AceKingpatdk-wk, yes, I got way too confused13:23
patdk-wkbut normal proftpd works easily enough13:23
AceKingpatdk-wk, This is all new too me13:23
patdk-wkpersonally, using ftp over the internet isn't so easy, cause of nat13:24
AceKingSo I shouldn't be using the GADMIN-ProFTPD?13:24
patdk-wkoh, it's a gui configuration tool for proftpd13:25
patdk-wkdunno anything about it13:25
AceKingYes, I need a GUI13:25
AceKingI tried going to youtube and finding videos to help... That didn't help either.13:26
AceKingAnd you said with gallery2, they would be able to download, or just view the files?13:27
patdk-wkboth really13:28
patdk-wkif you configure mime types correctly13:28
_rubenwhat's the difference between downloading and viewing images ? :P13:28
AceKingIf they wanted to put them on DVD13:29
patdk-wkno one said images :)13:29
AceKingI know it would be a pain in the ass for you to give me a step by step. Is there any tutorials that can walk me though?13:31
_rubendidnt know gallery2 also did video, only used it for images myself :)13:33
patdk-wkgallery2 does anything13:35
patdk-wktext files, pics, videos, binary, ...13:35
patdk-wkit doesn't care what you upload to it at all, it just has special cases for pics, and alittle for video13:36
AceKingHow did you guys learn this stuff?13:37
patdk-wkI took the pain in the ass method :)13:37
patdk-wkwhen I want to learn something, I want to learn it from the ground up13:37
_rubentry, fail, read, try again, fail again, read more, ...., try again, succeed + remember13:38
AceKingThat's what I want to do, but I can't find where to get started13:38
patdk-wkthere is lots of info on gallery2's website on it13:38
patdk-wkshould be enough to get it setup and working13:39
patdk-wkthe issue is, 3 layers of other stuff under it13:39
patdk-wkgetting apache and php setup13:39
patdk-wkso if you don't want to just hope it works13:40
AceKingpatdk-wk, Does php install with apache, or by itself?13:40
patdk-wkyou would have to learn about apache and php also13:40
AceKingah, ok13:40
AceKingI never installed that13:40
patdk-wkit should autoinstall if you installed gallery213:40
AceKingOk, I did install gallery213:41
patdk-wkI have never installed gallery2 using ubuntu though13:41
AceKingI guess I have a lot of reading to do13:41
patdk-wkmost likely you only have a few small issues to fix13:41
patdk-wkthe issue is knowing what those issues are :)13:42
AceKingLOL :)13:42
AceKingpatdk-wk, thanks again... Off I go13:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #821474 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.23-6ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82147413:46
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hallynlifeless: did you ever try out the lxc package from ubuntu-virt ppa?  (i'm about to ask Daviey to push to the archive)14:08
hallyneh, works over here...14:09
hallynDaviey: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc_0.7.4.2-3ubuntu6.debdiff    if that looks ok, do you mind pushing?14:09
Davieyhallyn: looking14:25
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Davieyhallyn: What was the deal with switching out to /run ?14:34
DavieyI know you nacked that the other day, but wondered why?14:34
Davieyhallyn: do you reall want to rm -rf /var/run ?14:35
hallynDaviey: I nacked it bc switching to /run will be less backward compatible14:48
hallynDaviey: on a regular system, /var/run is tmpfs.  So yeah, there is nothing under /var/run that normally survives reboot.14:48
hallynno nreason not to rm -rf14:48
hallynIf we get real reboot support next week, then (a) we can mount tmpfs on /var/run and (b) we can get rid of the rm -rf14:49
hallynthis is all a side effect of having to allow the host to see the guest's utmp :(14:49
Davieyhallyn: ok14:52
RoyKhallyn: iirc /var/run is tmpfs by default at least on lucid15:02
robbiewDaviey: hey...you planning on going to the release sprint?15:03
Davieyrobbiew: yah15:03
robbiewcool...I'll be there, but I'm no help to the actual release any more15:03
DavieyRoyK: Yes, but in oneiric /var/run has been replaced by /run15:03
Davieyrobbiew: Ah, if you are going.. i don't need to. :D15:04
hallynRoyK: yup15:04
hallynRoyK: but on containers, we disable that mount15:04
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robbiewDaviey: that works too...given you're in the same TZ...your call15:05
pythonirc1012how can i output the exact command that was used to start a process using "ps"? I see "python", but would like to see "python myscript.py"-- the one that top shows.15:07
hallynpythonirc1012: well you can look at /proc/$$/cmdline (words are separated by \0)15:10
hallynWTF?  I 'apt-get remove qemu-kvm qemu-common kvm-pxe', and apt decides that means it has to install virtualbox?15:23
Ursinhapythonirc1012: I use ps aux and it shows pretty complete info15:25
hallynespecially with auxw :)15:26
SpamapSUrsinha: Medium.. should have set that when I created them.15:35
UrsinhaSpamapS: should we consider those confirmed already?15:35
SpamapSUrsinha: I'd like to see somebody confirm them other than myself.. sanity checks and all. :)15:45
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hallynmdeslaur: question on vm-new.  Is there a reason you use the full iso rather than the mini.iso from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/$release/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ?  (I assume so, i.e. better for security team processes)16:02
mdeslaurhallyn: so it reproduces most users installations, and also because I want a full desktop16:03
mdeslaurI never actually managed to get the mini.iso working btw, but that's unrelated16:04
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hallynmdeslaur: ok.  It does work for me (http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/quick-vm-installations/) but if it's not appropriate for vm-tools that's ok :)16:05
hallynmdeslaur: though perhaps I'll hack up vm-new-mini16:06
mdeslaurhallyn: what do you typically install with that? I have no objections to adding a -t mini to vm-new16:07
hallynmdeslaur: my goal with thatusually is just to have something to run tests on.16:08
hallyni.e. i don't much care so long as it's uptodate and boots16:09
mdeslaurhallyn: well, add it as -t mini, and I'll merge it in16:09
hallynmdeslaur: thx.  will do.16:10
mdeslaurhallyn: cool, thanks16:10
mdeslaurhallyn: I'd add it to my todo list, but I still have "Update main laptop to gutsy" on my todo list, so it may take a while :)16:11
nigelbis there an easy way to say "I accept" to the sun jdk install?16:23
nigelbmy script blocks because of that16:24
UrsinhaSpamapS: fair enough :)16:29
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: ping16:30
rwwnigelb: I haven't looked, but I imagine it's deliberately not programmatic :P16:31
nigelbrww: hah. *dislike*16:33
Davieynigelb: I thought you could preseed that16:37
nigelbDaviey: hm, how? create an AMI with it?16:37
Davieynigelb: sun-java6-binshared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1booleantrue16:38
Davieybah, tab fail16:38
Davieypreseed those values and you won't be prompted to accept.16:38
* nigelb tries16:39
Davieyecho "sun-java6-jre shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true" | debconf-set-selections ; apt-get install sun-jd*-etc16:40
Davieynigelb: ^^16:40
nigelbDaviey: Gosh, that's awesome :)16:41
nigelbThank you!16:41
Davieygood stuff, hope it work16:42
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lickalottguys i'm having an issue that i can't seem to pinpoint.    I'm running znc on my server.  the server has an uptime of Running for 1w 4d 23h 25m 13s right now, but my znc/clients seems to drop off line, randomly.  I didn't see anything in /var/log that would lead me to anything i could troubleshoot.   has any one seen this or have any idea what i could do to fix it?16:44
pythonirc1012Ursinha: Thanks.16:44
pythonirc1012Is there an automatic way to grep on ps aux and kill all processes that match a certain pattern?16:44
Ursinhapythonirc1012: you might want to look at pgrep and pkill16:45
lickalottis it something you want to do all the time pythonirc1012?16:47
bkerensalickalott: Nothing at all showing up in logs?16:48
lickalottnot that i'm seeing.16:48
lickalotti see some updates coming in and was wondering if it was knocking my interface off to secure more bandwidth, but not all the users get dc'd.16:49
bkerensalickalott: I personally dont have a lot of experience with znc but I do use PsyBNC which is stable16:50
lickalottyeah...  i've been battling this for about a month now.  Looked up bugs in 11.04 and found nothing, scoured forums for similar issues and found nothing.  I'm almost at the point of a wipe and reload, but i'm not 100% convinced that it will help16:50
SJrUm my server's filesystem seems to have disappeared16:51
SJrbash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory16:51
lickalottcan you cd to it?16:51
lickalottyou see anything?16:51
lickalottjust bin?16:52
SJrno every folder seems empty16:52
SJrexcept for other directories16:52
bkerensaSJr: Can you cd / and paste results to paste.ubuntu.com16:52
SJrapache2 says the same thing (one of my webapps)16:52
SJrresults of what, the cd?16:52
bkerensabetter yet16:52
bkerensaSJr: You said ls is not workin16:53
bkerensaSJr: Run any weird commands?16:53
bkerensaSJr: Are you able to look at bash history16:53
lickalottmaybe load live cd, mount your parition and copy over bin from cd as a start16:53
SJrno I just got up16:53
SJrno it's worse than that, everything seems gone16:54
lickalottthose mice ran a rm -rf *16:54
SJrNo I doubt it16:54
SJrthe directories seem to be there16:54
lickalotthas it been on this whole time?16:54
SJrlol typing 'help' kills whatever session I'm in16:55
lickalottsorry bkerensa...don't want to step on your toes man.  you want this?16:55
SJrone of them said "Bus Error"16:55
bkerensano go ahead I have to run anyways16:55
lickalottcan you see history?16:55
SJrI think I've lost every session16:55
SJrsamba seems to work for different drives, I think the hard drive may have just tanked16:56
SJrone of the mounted drives still has data in it.16:56
SJrand I'm watching an episode of Curb and it seems to work16:56
SJrI suspect rebooting is the end of this server16:56
lickalottare you running straight server or did you grab the GUI package?16:57
SJrstraight server16:57
lickalottwait 116:57
lickalotthave you checked the lost+found dir?16:58
SJrI think I have to reboot16:58
lickalottmaybe run an fsck?16:59
SJrI suspect that the drive is dead16:59
SJranyway since this is a bouncer I have to try and reboot16:59
SJrwhat should I check in terms of files, the system came back up17:04
lickalottwhich ifconfig17:04
lickalottdoes it return anything?17:04
lickalottlemme ask you this first...  what's your unix knowledge level?  1 - 10 (10 being highest)17:05
lickalottdon't want to offend/talk to you like a 3 y/o if i don't have to17:05
SJrI guess a 7 probably17:05
SJrComp Sci Major, studied operating systems :)17:05
lickalottls works now?17:05
lickalottdid you run fsck?17:06
SJrnot yet, I was having some problems running it before17:06
RoyKSJr: remount the root read only (mount -o ro,remount /) and fsck it17:06
SJrI had some other disk issue recently, I don't remember the specifics17:06
SJrdo I switch runlevels first?17:07
lickalotti would back up your important stuff now while you can, then start some PMI17:07
RoyKSJr: runlevels?17:07
SJrthis would be the root drive, that has nothing of importance on it at the moment17:07
RoyKSJr: it's safe to fsck a filesystem once it's remounted ro17:07
SJryes but I can't actually remount it, while I'm in the default runlevel as too much stuff is open17:08
RoyKrunlevels are just sets of whatever should be started etc17:08
SJrmount: / is busy17:08
RoyKSJr: mount -o remount,ro17:08
RoyKwith -o remount it should never say it's busy17:09
SJr mount -o remount,ro / responds with  mount: / is busy17:09
genii-aroundMight need --force17:09
genii-aroundor equiv17:09
RoyKif that doesn't work, init s17:09
RoyKor reboot in single mode17:09
SJrwill that kill ssh?17:09
RoyKit will indeed17:09
RoyKSJr: you might want to touch /forcefsck; reboot17:12
RoyKbut if you don't have a remote console on that, it might stay down if it finds something bad17:12
SJrI just don't want to hook up a monitor to it17:13
RoyKis this a remote server?17:13
lickalottdo you have  ubuntu on a laptop?17:14
lickalottand a serial cable?17:14
hallynfeh, 10 mins wasted due to -o/-O wget mixup :)17:16
SJrI don't have a serial port on the laptop :)17:17
SJror perhaps on the server17:17
lickalottsounds like you're going to have to throw a monitor in it then.17:18
lickalottthere is a app (minicomm) that you could've used.17:18
geekbriDoes anybody know where I can get a list of the AMI ID's for the official ubuntu EC2 instances in the asia-pacific region17:18
lickalottgeekbri - http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/17:21
geekbrilickalott: thanks, love you17:21
* lickalott blushes17:21
geekbrialthough, the image ID im looking for isn't appearing when i search for it in the gui,, very strange17:25
geekbrioh i take it back :)17:26
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FFForeverAnyone run a pptpd server?18:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #821605 in samba (main) "package smbclient 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82160518:06
RoAkSoAxlynxman whats up?18:15
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: naah too late ;)18:16
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: thanks anyway mate18:16
RoAkSoAxlynxmanhehe sorry was running errands18:16
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: hey no worries at all :)18:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #821609 in postfix (main) "FTBFS w/ 3.0 linux kernel" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82160918:21
UrsinhaDaviey: how often do you need release-bugs.html to be updated?18:54
jdevelanyone able to test if a mail server has an open relay?18:55
UrsinhaDaviey: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html18:55
urosnhi guys, i need help regarding vmbuild18:56
urosnwhen I want to add a package with -addpkg build just breaks18:56
jdevelrww, is that something that can be trusted?18:57
jdevel rww, it looks like they are just doing a telnet test..18:57
jdevelhaven't found anything much more sophisticated than the link you provided.. thanks though18:59
DavieyUrsinha: I am still updating it every 4 hours.. that is ample for my needs.19:08
DavieyI'll take mine offline and use the team one19:08
UrsinhaDaviey: yay :) how do you like the table? I have a template exactly as it was before, if you prefer19:09
DavieyUrsinha: i did fire a manual update just before the release meeting.. so it's useful if i can still ssh in and update it myself.19:09
UrsinhaDaviey: it can be updated every five minutes automatically if you want19:09
Ursinhatakes about three to run19:10
DavieyUrsinha: ooo, i like what you have done with it19:10
Davieyhave you polished up my code?19:10
UrsinhaDaviey: yes :)19:10
DavieyUrsinha: good, it was crap.19:10
Ursinhano, I just refactored a bit19:10
DavieyUrsinha: For extra brownie points, fancy making a moin output? :)19:10
Ursinhasure :)19:10
UrsinhaDaviey: as a table or a list?19:10
DavieyUrsinha: a list, that i can copy and paste elsewhere.19:11
Davieyon the wiki :)19:11
UrsinhaDaviey: which wiki page?19:12
DavieyUrsinha: TechnicalOverview19:20
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kirklandzul: ping19:34
zulkirkland: yep?19:34
kirklandzul: reviewing the openstackx binaries for the new queue19:34
zulkirkland: yep19:34
kirklandzul: i'm curious why they're not arch=all?19:34
kirklandzul: looks like just python libraries -- do you different builds per arch?19:34
zulkirkland: they should probably be...i can fix that after19:35
kirklandzul: source is accepted19:35
zulkirkland: thanks19:35
kirklandzul: i'm going to reject the binary;  re-upload the source with that change and i'll accept the new _all.deb binary19:35
kirklandzul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openstackx/+bug/821632 when you're fixing it19:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 821632 in openstackx ""Architecture: any" when it seems to be Arch independent." [Undecided,New]19:37
* RoyK listens to Is this desire?19:46
UrsinhaDaviey: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.txt20:08
Krakishis there any way i can make my ubuntu team speak server wireless access point20:11
Krakishwhen i bridge the wlan with eth0 and i am losing connectivity to the machine via ssh20:12
Krakishi want to set up a small wlan behind the machine for less then 5 machines and use same server for VoIP if Team Speak can be called VoIP :)20:13
Deterministhello gents. what would be a sensible place to put shared files on a SMB file server?20:17
KM0201is there a good way to install webmin on 11.0420:19
Joeman1KM0201, Try this - Just googled for it - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-webmin-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-server.html20:25
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.20:25
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).20:26
KM0201Joeman1: i found that just a minute ago.20:26
KM0201i have 11.04 though20:26
RoyKusing 11.04 for a server isn't what I'd recommend unless you need bleeding edge software20:27
RoyK10.04 works and is stable20:27
Joeman1KM0201, yeah, that document is for 11.0420:27
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)20:27
KM0201RoyK: don't need bleeding edge.. i'll go LTS when 12.04 rolls out.20:27
RoyKKM0201: why are you using 11.04?20:28
KM0201no particular reason, that just what i installed20:28
RoyKwell, use the LTS releases for servers20:28
RoyKthey are stable20:29
RoyKthe non-lts releases tend to be a bit buggy20:29
KM0201well, it works fine.20:29
KM0201!info ebox20:37
ubottuebox (source: ebox): Zentyal - Core. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.16-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 666 kB, installed size 4040 kB20:37
cwassanthowdy folks20:48
cwassantI am a programmingnub, and I was hoping to learn some php20:48
cwassantbut i need a server for that...20:48
cwassantand i forgot the command that set up the virtual host20:49
cwassantahh nvm20:50
cwassantgoogle is your friend20:50
hallynmdeslaur: well, i don't get it.  When I run kvm by hand with the mini.iso and my preseed.cfg, it works.  When I do it through virtinst through vm-new (with mini.iso and my preseed.cfg, or any preseed.cfg i've tried) it asks for my input at partman.20:52
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robbiewRoAkSoAx: do you know if we still need capistrano in ubuntu-orchestra-client?20:56
args[0]I have a 10.04 LTS, can I upgrade to 12.04 LTS using just a couple of commands from Terminal? thanks21:00
genii-aroundargs[0]: Yes, after it becomes released.21:01
Krakishi missconfigures interfaces file21:01
rww12.04 doesn't exist yet, as it's not currently April 2012, but yes.21:01
Krakishand after reboot i am not able to see eth0 when enter ifconfig21:02
Krakishi repaired the interfaces file but i am still not able to see eth021:02
Krakishany ideas ?21:02
args[0]genii-around: so I don't lose anything, no need to re-install the OS?21:04
genii-aroundargs[0]: Yes, what rww just said21:04
hggdhDaviey: I really do not know how to deal with the postinst for cobbler-enroll, there seems to be a lot of internal knowledge needed21:06
hggdhDaviey: this is the only thing we are missing, I think. Unfortunately, the most important piece, sorry21:07
Davieyhggdh: No, you have done great!  It just needs some banging donk.  We'll see what Colin has to say Monday.21:16
DavieyUrsinha: You are my superhero!  The only thing it needs is [Bug:XXXXXX] for moin to render it as a short link21:19
UrsinhaDaviey: test there, it works now21:19
Ursinhait renders already21:19
DavieyUrsinha: are you sure?21:20
UrsinhaI thought that too, then I tested and the [] weren't needed21:20
UrsinhaDaviey: yes, I've tested on wiki.ubuntu.com21:20
DavieyUrsinha: Superduper!  Minor improvement might be to use the syntax to link to lp.person and maybe use moin tabls21:21
Davieybut that really isn't essential, that is great stuff.. Makes reporting much easier.21:21
UrsinhaDaviey: I'd prefer tables, for sure, but you asked for a list :P21:21
DavieyUrsinha: bah, i'm fickle like that.21:22
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args[0]genii-around: yes, I know that it is not released yet.. just asking for future reference.21:31
args[0]How can I remove files from showing on my /var/www directory listing when accessing it via a browser?21:31
args[0]Directories not files21:31
Davieyargs[0]: Options -Indexes21:32
args[0]Daviey: what is that? where?21:32
args[0]Daviey: htaccess?21:33
args[0]I wan to disable some specific Directories from showing in the auto-generated directory listing21:34
Davieyargs[0]: why?21:34
RoAkSoAxrobbiew i havent plated with capistrano but i think that we need to discuss all that next week21:34
RoAkSoAxrobbiew all the orchestra stuff should be done next week... at least i hope so21:35
Davieyargs[0]: anyway, you probably want to read up on 'IndexIgnore'21:35
robbiewRoAkSoAx: me too ;)21:36
args[0]Daviey: I dont want it to show the robot.txt file and some other directories21:36
RoAkSoAxbut in reality theres just few pieces from the cobbler side and it is basicslly a stock cobbler that we are using21:36
RoAkSoAxwe do need though to have a wqy to have fobbler be more aware about the status of deployed machines21:36
RoAkSoAxrobbie ^^21:37
DavieyRoAkSoAx: status?21:37
RoAkSoAxDaviey status as in deploying runnin off etc21:37
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DavieyRoAkSoAx: as in | unprovisoned/raw hardware | fresh installed | configured/in use21:37
RoAkSoAxDaviey yeah21:38
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Yeah, i've been toying with adding fields to cobbler just for that.21:38
RoAkSoAxDaviey running install / install finished / etc or dimilar21:38
RoAkSoAxDaviey or use mgmt classes21:39
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Not thought about 'installed finished' | 'running install' .. but that should be possible with 'seed retrieval' and post-install call home21:39
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Not looked at mgmt classes21:39
RoAkSoAxDaviey i think it is important to know if it is running install or know when the installation is done21:40
DavieyRoAkSoAx: gah, i forgot you were not going to be with us next week.21:40
RoAkSoAxtheres ways to know though21:40
RoAkSoAxDaviey i wont but i will be at the ensemble one so i was planning to fogure things21:41
RoAkSoAxout with kirkland21:41
DavieyRoAkSoAx: sure.  I'm setting up that cobbler server on Monday in the lab.. hopefully we'll be able to use it constantly, and find weakness points21:41
kirklandRoAkSoAx: \o/21:41
Davieyjames page is probably going to be working with QA to work through using it for contant testing.21:42
Daviey(in the QA lab)21:42
RoAkSoAxkirkland \o/21:42
lifelesshallyn: sorry, was asleep.21:43
RoAkSoAxDaviey cool keep.me plsted about the prchestra things u guys think to be in the same page and i will do the same21:43
DavieyRoAkSoAx: I think we'll need to all sync up during the week.  Need to work out time overlap for good conference times21:44
RoAkSoAxDaviey sure lets talk 9est which is 3 ur time21:44
RoAkSoAxor 421:45
RoAkSoAxDaviey i already have a list of things thhat need to be addressed whithin cfobbler for orchestra / ensemble21:46
DavieyRoAkSoAx: lists are of more use if shared :)21:48
RoAkSoAxDaviey i am preparing the list for monday but will make sure to fordward it ;)21:49
DavieyRoAkSoAx: I need to look into management classes, the stuff i was sniffing might be rubbish if it's what we want.21:49
DavieyRoAkSoAx: splendid!21:49
UrsinhaDaviey: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.txt21:49
DavieyUrsinha: Great, you know what might be better?  I nice linear list.21:50
DavieyUrsinha: seriously, that is really nice21:50
UrsinhaDaviey: it's updated every five minutes21:50
DavieyUrsinha: are you using a cache?21:53
UrsinhaDaviey: only lplib cache21:54
Davieyoh sure21:54
Davieyevery 5 mins might be a bit excess TBH - i'm probably only going to use the moin output 1-3 times a week21:54
UrsinhaDaviey: it's generated every time I generate the html report21:55
Ursinhait would be more complicated to separate them then to do how I'm doing now :)21:55
Davieyah ok.. Ursinha Great. Stuff.21:55
EasyishHey, I'm trying to get a SSL cert signed by thesslstore.com22:02
EasyishBut I want it for a subdomain22:02
EasyishI'm not sure what I need to do22:02
EasyishHas anyone else done this before?22:03
robbiewDaviey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Orchestra22:04
DavieyEasyish: you need a wildcard cert (hint, expensive) or buy an extra one for that subdomain22:05
kirklandrobbiew: sweet, thanks, will look22:05
Davieyrobbiew: Go away, it's the weekend. :P22:05
Davieyrobbiew: looks good!22:07
Davieyend of next week, we'll throw some more love on it.22:07
EasyishDaviey: I'm going to use a freebie that they offer22:09
EasyishI want to get *\0.mydomain.com  :)22:09
DavieyEasyish: good luck with that.22:10
EasyishWhy not?22:10
DavieyEasyish: if it works out, please come back to let us know.22:11
EasyishUhhh, didn't you watch moxie marlinspike at DEFCON?22:11
Easyishworked for him22:12
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hallynshould the order of entries in a  preseed fil matter?22:30
Easyishawww crap22:47
EasyishMy free cert won't let me get a wildcard! =(22:47
Easyishapparlly most CA certs have fixed the common name wildcard trick =(22:49
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RoyKEasyish: most CA authorities charge rather a lot, ye23:11
RoyKEasyish: most CA authorities charge rather a lot, yes23:11
DavieyEasyish: I thought it was unlikely :(23:26
DavieyEasyish: It will be cheaper to buy a second ssl cert.23:26
hallynmdeslaur: vm-new -t mini is working for me.  It auto-fetches the mini iso if not already there (that's really my motivation here :)  But I can't seem to request a merge against the ubuntu-qa-tools trunk23:58
hallynmdeslaur: https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/%2Bjunk/ubuntu-qa-tools/  has my code23:58
hallynonly vm-new was changed23:58
* hallyn sneaks out23:58

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