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Mezanyone here good with snort?01:25
AlanBellmorning all06:38
DJonesMorning folks06:58
diploMorning all07:02
bigcalmGood morning :)07:50
DJonesMorning bigcalm07:52
bigcalmHi DJones07:59
shaunowow.  japan really needs a new timezone08:02
Laneyyou broke the hello train :(08:03
shauno2 hours on the phone, and it's not even breakfast yet.  that's just inhumane08:03
shaunoLaney: sorry .. wet leaves on the track08:03
bigcalmWe should migrate to a dyson sphere08:03
bigcalmIt'll be day all the time then08:04
* AlanBell is off to London this afternoon08:06
AlanBellto Microsoft towers :)08:06
MartijnVdSAlanBell: fraternizing with the enemy? ;)08:08
AlanBellsneaking into Mordor08:08
AlanBellhttp://yrs2011.eventbrite.com/ anyone else want to come?08:09
oimonleave a ubuntu usb stick near the water coolre ;)08:09
MartijnVdSAlanBell: I thought YRS was only for <18s ;)08:09
AlanBellthis is the show and tell bit08:09
MartijnVdShm, that's near my hotel from a few weeks ago08:11
* bigcalm just had a funny thought08:14
bigcalmSome surnames came about due to a profession: Smith, Cooper, etc08:14
bigcalmI wonder if that'll ever happen with modern day jobs08:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: "John Q. Hacker"08:15
bigcalmAndrew Webdev for instance ;)08:15
ubuntuuk-planet[Matthew East] Ubuntu Membership and Contributions to Upstream Projects - http://www.mdke.org/?p=11808:15
AlanBellDavid Django08:15
MartijnVdSAlanBell: Django is a given name08:15
JamesTaitGood morning everyone!08:16
MartijnVdSbigcalm: also, some surnames come from land ownership :)08:16
bigcalmIndeed, I was just amused by andrewebdev's surname ;)08:19
andrewebdevmine is profession :P08:20
MartijnVdSWhat about titles for IP space? Duke of, etc.08:20
MartijnVdS /808:20
bigcalmOh dear08:23
apwAlanBell, what the heck are those even about ?  the titles make no sense08:24
AlanBellapw: what titles?08:24
apwAlanBell, sorry was paged up in my scroll-back so there was more context here than there, the ones for the m$ things08:25
AlanBelloh, the Young Rewired State thing, it isn't an M$ event08:25
AlanBellmeh, they are just ticket types, they mean nothing08:25
apwoh that makes much more sense08:26
DJonesI read that as "Young Retired State", was beginning to think it was a way of cutting the number job seekers, just say that school leavers are retired, jobless totals would drop like a stone08:26
AlanBellissyl0 is a participant08:27
DJonesAlanBell: Yes, I've noticed her tweets about it08:27
DJonesSounds like she's had a good time tehre08:27
oimonwill anyone be using google+ for oggcamp?08:30
AlanBelloimon: what do you mean?08:35
diplooimon, you mentioned a dvd/book catalogue software you used.. I've reinstalled and forgot what it was.. can you enlighten me :)08:35
oimonAlanBell: not sure of the right term, but are they hangouts or huddles or something? basically the equivalent of #oggcamp on twitter08:36
oimondiplo: tellico? alexandria?08:37
diplotellico maybe it, I was using alexandria08:37
bigcalmThe occasional tweet maybe, but most of my time will be talking/listening to people via analogue means08:39
popeyMorning all08:42
bigcalmGood morning popey. Well done to you and lady popey :)08:43
MartijnVdSpopey: congratifications :)08:44
popeythanks :D08:52
issyl0AlanBell: See you later.08:58
dogmatic69what is 10.10 called?09:14
lubotu3Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/101009:15
lubotu3While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.09:15
Laneyhah, that backfired09:15
oimonjust wondering ;)09:15
brobostigongood morning everyone.09:16
AlanBellshould get a name for that fairly soon, natty was announced on 17th August09:18
oimonPerfect Penguin09:19
popeyIt's bound to be something unpronounceable09:20
oimonPyrrhic Pterosaur09:20
oimonboo.. wanted to try new gwibber in 11.10 and it's broken09:21
brobostigonmorning czajkowski09:35
AlanBellhttp://ccgi.psmith12.plus.com/visradius/generated/image13125352198806.png this is what crappy BT VSDSL modem does to your connection09:36
AlanBellI have a big fan blowing into it to keep the temperature down and the line up09:37
DavieyIt took me a month to stop myself just calling Oneiric O-Series.09:42
DavieyI suspect P will be the same :)09:42
oimontwo typo's on one line in the latest puppet textbook. the linus typo is the most common one in geekdom: http://ubuntuone.com/p/18Ve/09:43
oimoni just discovered that i can upload photos directly to ubuntu one from my android! excellent! :)09:44
DavieyThe last text book i looked at was documenting work i was doing.. I opened it full of excitement, and ~4 technical errors jumped out at me.09:44
AlanBellDaviey: isn't that an RS/600009:44
DavieyAlanBell: hah09:44
czajkowskiDaviey: but but.... calling it P P is gonna sound worse09:47
AlanBellI wanna p-p09:49
AlanBellczajkowski: are you going to the YRS thing?09:50
czajkowskithe what now/09:51
AlanBellare you busy this afternoon?09:51
MartijnVdSczajkowski: young rewired state09:51
czajkowskican't I'm afraid09:51
oimoni don't think the future generation will know what wires are09:52
Laneyhope so09:52
MartijnVdSthe or a future generation? :)(09:52
oimonmaybe they will be the theora generation10:01
* oimon scratches chin ponderously10:02
davmor2morning all10:02
oimonor rather strokes chin. head=scratch chin=stroke10:02
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Davieyczajkowski: reminds me of mumble's voice saying outloud ":P"10:14
Davieyyes colon-peee.10:14
popeywhat does it say for thorn?10:16
davmor2Daviey: yes mumble does come out with some good ones10:17
Davieypopey: no idea, sorry.10:21
czajkowskiI love the way mdke writes. He expresses himself really well10:24
apwwill have to have a word, we don't want people understanding other people, that way lies madness10:25
* AlanBell has 6 16GB class 10 SD cards \o/10:25
apw(and no money?)10:25
AlanBellTiming buffered disk reads:  52 MB in  3.02 seconds =  17.23 MB/sec10:27
apwi hear rumours that if you put ext4 on them, class 10 card can be slower than class 610:28
apwsomething to do with stripe layouts10:28
popey Timing buffered disk reads: 366 MB in  3.02 seconds = 121.35 MB/sec10:28
AlanBellthese are staying fat32 for the moment10:28
popey(unfair comparison)10:28
AlanBellis that SSD?10:29
popeythe cheapest one I own10:29
MartijnVdShow do I test this?10:29
AlanBellhdparm -tT /dev/sdb10:30
MartijnVdS Timing cached reads:   10042 MB in  2.00 seconds = 5023.66 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 638 MB in  3.01 seconds = 212.27 MB/sec10:30
Laneyhow exciting, my powerline networking kit arrived10:30
MartijnVdSpopey: ^^ New intel SSD ("510" model)10:30
MartijnVdSpopey: (SATA-600 on SATA-300 interface)10:31
popeyLaney: yay!10:31
Laneyconnecting a desktop via wireless is the pits10:31
* Laney hopes it works10:31
AlanBellconnecting a server via wireless is worse10:36
Laneywell, that's how I mainly use it (ssh)10:37
DavieyAlanBell: we do include wpa-supplicant on server, what more do you want?! :)10:37
AlanBellI gave up and moved it to the wires10:37
oimonlinux-firmware-nonfree would be nice :P10:38
Davieyprobably wise.10:38
davmor2czajkowski: have a hug, Morning!10:39
Laneysixxs probably hate me for the tunnel going down all the time10:39
DavieyLaney: sixxs hate everyone.10:46
Laneymy precious ISK :(10:47
DavieyLaney: they refused me a tunnel :)10:48
Laneyoh yeah, you have to apply don't you?10:48
Laneyseemed a formality to me10:48
DavieyLaney: No.. they refused my application. :(10:49
Laneyhow sad10:49
Daviey(others have heard this from me already)10:49
DavieyLaney: They complained my mail was compliant with their policy10:50
Daviey.. so i read the policy and it declared that you need two mx records.10:50
DavieyI added a secondary mx record just for them.10:50
DavieyThey said it was still not ok, and i was to use an "ISP supplied email address"10:50
DavieySo i setup sixxs@$ISP.com which was retrieved by fetchmail into my INBOX.10:51
MartijnVdShow old-fashioned10:51
DavieyAnd that still wasn't ok... then they stopped replying to my emails10:51
LaneyI understand @ubuntu gets you some credit10:51
Davieybullcrap :)10:51
DavieyLaney: I think i tried using that.. and that only has one mx record.10:52
Laneydunno, I didn't use an ISP address and only have one MX …10:52
shaunoI just use HE.  they don't tell me off. evar.10:52
Laneymy laptop uses teredo10:53
* MartijnVdS pets native IPv6 over DSL11:02
oimonbroke my svn setup :(11:03
MartijnVdSoimon: switch to bzr, git, hg11:03
oimonhow can i fix "svn: warning: 'etc' is already under version control"11:03
MartijnVdSdon't svn add it again?11:03
oimonsvn list doesn't show it11:04
MartijnVdSoimon: ##subversion?11:04
oimonit was copied from somewhere else11:04
oimon#ubuntu-uk is more friendly to noobs11:04
MartijnVdSoimon: does it contain a .svn directory/directories?11:04
oimon./etc doesn't but the powd does11:04
MartijnVdSthen I'd still suggest ##subversion, and switching to a proper DVCS11:05
* oimon tries11:05
davmor2Hey popey how did your oneiric update go?11:06
oimonMartijnVdS: #svn were v helpful :D11:15
popeydavmor2: it worked11:20
popeydavmor2: i have an oneiric desktop install now11:20
czajkowskihttp://www.eventbrite.com/event/1981804631/estwhdr  folks seen this11:21
Davieypopey: you FOOL11:22
popeydual boot11:22
popeynot that silly, silly11:22
* popey points davmor2 at the question he asked in -testing11:23
AlanBellaquarius: feel free to mail the list with the u1 thibg11:28
aquariusAlanBell, er...huh?11:30
* oimon just noticed that graze are looking for a unix sysadmin :)11:31
shaunoI heard the pay is peanuts :/11:32
oimon"A graze account with unlimited free boxes"11:32
shaunonoticed ;)11:32
oimonskinny guys get preference at the interview stage11:33
DavieyI tend to avoid progressing unlucky people.11:34
Daviey"Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them. " -- David Brent.11:35
oimonyou've touched upon the calvinist theological doctrine of election there.11:35
davmor2Daviey: I've seen this approach before you throw all the cv's in the air the ones that land in the bin are naturally unlucky right ;)11:36
AlanBellaquarius: the app dev evening thing11:36
Davieydavmor2: oh aye.11:36
davmor2aquarius: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1981804631/estwhdr this one,  AlanBell is saying to post it to the ubuntu uk mailing list :)11:37
aquariusah, right, yes :)11:37
aquariusCool, I'll do that. I want to write a blog post myself for my site first :)11:37
DavieyAlanBell: Are you trying to suggest that aquarius send The App Developer event to the ubuntu-uk mailing list?11:38
aquariusAlanBell, thanks11:38
aquariusI'm gonna ping a bunch of people near manchester too :)11:38
* AlanBell plugs laptop into phone and starts typing longer and more eloquent sentences11:39
Daviey(it would be easier to spoof an email from aquarius, than try and explain your point to that rabbit)11:39
AlanBell\o/ to events not in London11:46
AlanBelleven though I like events in London, it is nice to spread things about11:46
AlanBellaquarius: for bonus points you could put it on the loco directory11:50
aquariusI could, if I knew how; do tell!11:50
Davieygod luck with that... the server is down.11:50
AlanBellfirst you need a launchpad account . . .11:50
AlanBellhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk log in there and click create new event when the server is unbroken11:51
AlanBellDaviey: should have used Ensemble11:52
davmor2AlanBell: what Daviey said11:52
DavieyAlanBell: exactly!11:54
czajkowskiup to this week I'd never heard of Ensemble or Orchestra12:07
oimonmaybe that's because you haven't got your head in the clouds ho-ho-ho12:08
* daubers needs to put together a short script that calculates the buzzword density of any given text12:09
oimonthe whole eucalyptus / openstack thing reminds me of the xen/kvm thing12:09
Davieyoimon: nah, it is totally different.12:10
bigcalmBuzzword bingo for the live show at oggcamp :)12:10
Davieyusr/share/octopussy/AAT/INC/AAT_PageTop.inc:26:  "open-flash-chart.swf", "open_flash_chart",12:10
Davieyoops, clipboard fail12:10
oimonDaviey: are ubuntu going forward with eucalyptus , openstack or both? loads of xen adopters with redhat were peeved when they had to switch to kvm12:12
Davieyoimon: Openstack will be in main, Eucalyptus is pending being moved to universe.12:16
Davieyoimon: One of the primary reasons for the choice of kvm vs xen, was that xen was a horrible patchset which was a real PITA to maintain.12:17
Davieykvm made it mainline kernel.12:17
DavieyNow xen is mainline, you'll notice it's also in main :)12:17
Daviey(although depwait on a depends which is awaiting promotion)12:18
Davieykvm will still remain our favoured tho.12:18
oimoni had to choose a solution at around that time and was compelled to choose vmware12:21
oimonredhat couldn't get their act together on providing any real product to manage kvm , meanwhile xen was out of favour12:22
oimonis it possible to buy android apps using paypal? had my phone 18 months but never actually bought an app12:32
MartijnVdSoimon: it uses Google Checkout12:33
oimonMartijnVdS: does that allow me to use paypal to pay?12:34
MartijnVdSoimon: no, it's a paypal competitor12:34
oimonoh :(12:34
oimonthat sux12:35
MartijnVdSI trust google more than I trust paypal/ebay12:35
oimoni rather have to trust 1 rather than 2 though12:36
bigcalmAny reason why &ellipsis; is not working for me in FireFox?12:41
davmor2bigcalm: cause firefox hates you/12:45
davmor2? even12:45
bigcalmTurns out that &hellip; works12:46
davmor2bigcalm: if it helps I still have no idea what you are on about :)12:47
shaunonoting popey's new toys .. I use one of those with a laptop.  find it more comfortable to have it off to the side (like a mouse), rather than having to bend my thumb backwards to reach below the keyboard12:57
* AlanBell is in Microsoft12:58
czajkowskiAlanBell: see this is where 4square comes in handy12:59
dogmatic69AlanBell: ew12:59
czajkowskiit freaks people out checking into MS oracle and redhat13:00
davmor2AlanBell: insert some linux gpl code into their systems so we can sue them ;)13:00
AlanBellthey didn't confiscate my Maverick CDs13:02
AlanBellNatty even13:02
davmor2AlanBell: I wonder why :)  You still got your usb stick though right :)13:04
bigcalmdavmor2: he said "didn't" not "did"13:15
davmor2oh are13:16
oimonthe usb stick might need disinfecting considering the  measures he took getting it through security13:16
dogmatic69would anyone know why my ubuntu 10.10 running unit tests for php+mysql is 10x slower than mac osx13:59
dogmatic69same versions of php/mysql and php code14:00
oimonsame RAM, hardware,disk?14:11
oimonbanshee just decided to play the funeral march by chopin oh-oh..14:20
davmor2oimon: that's it banshee is going to die on you now :)14:22
oimonit usually does14:22
oimoni recently installed a rhel6.1 desktop and was interested to see gnote, the mono-free tomboy replacement on there. after playing with it for 30 seconds i realised there is no note-sync feature (at least in the version shipped by redhat). chocolate teapot comes to mind14:24
popeyi get a bit narked whenever people tell me I should use gnote14:24
popeyits missing fundamental functionality14:24
popey"but it isnt mono"14:25
popey                _14:25
popey _ __ ___   ___| |__14:25
popey| '_ ` _ \ / _ \ '_ \14:25
popey| | | | | |  __/ | | |14:25
popey|_| |_| |_|\___|_| |_|14:25
popey                      14:25
azelphur_Anyone care to do a traceroute to azelphur.com and tell me if your getting large amounts of packet loss inside he.net?14:26
azelphur_hurricane electric has like 60% loss for me :(14:26
oimon"Synchronization support is being worked on."14:26
oimonazelphur i don't see he.net14:27
azelphur_oimon, yea, I think some people take a different route and are fine, since there's a bunch of people with no issue14:27
popeylots of packet loss there14:27
azelphur_popey, yep, that's where I'm loosing too14:28
azelphur_yea, your going via a different route :)14:28
oimonAKA the good route14:28
azelphur_wonder who I should grumble at about it14:28
oimonalthough quite high ping times14:29
azelphur_oimon, 78ms ain't bad to new york14:29
oimonav ping for me is 150ms14:29
oimonto az14:29
oimonGirlyGirl: hello, sorry :)14:30
azelphur_ah :)14:30
GirlyGirloimon: Don't be!14:30
oimonhows the car?14:30
GirlyGirloimon: still same, but I changed the mat so I can avoid such a thing again14:31
shaunoI tend to go full hipsterific, and ping @henet on twitter.  They actually respond14:31
GirlyGirloimon: Funny thing though someone was having a discussion with me about females being bad drivers before I crashed, I told the person gender is irrelevant in such stuff. And then I came back with a mashed up car14:32
oimoni guess most men don't wear stilettos?14:33
GirlyGirloimon: The accident was not technically my fault14:33
shaunoheh, that's just tempting murphy14:33
oimonwas it a white van?14:33
GirlyGirloimon: yes why?14:33
oimon"white van man"..worst driver on the road14:34
GirlyGirlI see14:34
oimoni drove one once and suddenly i felt like nobody one the road mattered14:34
oimonfelt like a computer game14:35
popeyI borrowed my bosses car a while back14:35
czajkowskione week to oggcamp :D14:35
popeyIt was quite a missile compared to mine14:35
davmor2oimon: you think van drivers don't care you should drive a lorry sometime :D14:36
GirlyGirlMy car is a Toyota Yaris14:36
azelphur_think I should tweet to @henet about the packet loss? :P14:36
oimondavmor2: i still shudder when i think of that footage of a lorry pushing a car along on the motorway, did you see it?14:36
popeyazelphur_: yes14:36
azelphur_sounds fun :D14:37
daubersczajkowski: Exciting isn't it!14:37
GirlyGirlI would be scrared to be in the car!14:37
DavieyI thought gnote was dead upstream?14:37
GirlyGirledit scared14:37
czajkowskidaubers: yeah really looking forward :D14:37
czajkowskiAlanBell: gotten any more dolly mixture cake from tesco lately :D14:38
oimonDaviey: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnote/14:38
oimonlooks active14:38
Davieyyeah, sure does - i was certain i read it was dropped by the chap behind it14:39
davmor2oimon: been there done that,  In the builders merchant where I used to work, some prat parked his Range Rover directly behind my lorry couldn't see in the mirror and reversed backwards for about 40 feet before he jumped back in it and blasted on the horn14:39
oimonthis is terrifying http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8574609.stm14:39
popeyDaviey: it was14:39
popeyit has changed developers14:39
davmor2oimon: when you're in something that weights 38ton you don't notice and extra 2or3 of a car14:40
oimonyeah, especially if you are texting or eating a pasty :)14:40
GirlyGirlback in a moment14:41
Azelphuryay, packet loss fixed \o/14:46
AzelphurI guess twitter saves the day.14:46
oimonrather worrying that14:46
hamitronpacket loss?14:46
Azelphurhurricane electric was dropping 70% on the way to my server :(14:46
davmor2oimon: the worse thing I saw was a lady doing her makeup come off a slip lane between to lorries go to pull out of the gap into an overtaking lorry car got turn into a box woman dead14:47
Azelphuronce on the road outside my house there was a lady who got killed after a bus pulled well onto her side of the road14:48
Azelphurdunno what happened about that though, madness14:48
AlanBellczajkowski: nope, but I might get one on the way home :)14:49
DavieyAzelphur: what fixed it?14:50
AzelphurDaviey: sending a tweet to hurricane electric :P14:50
oimonthe power of twitter14:50
AlanBellsilly Microsoft blocked port 22 outbound from their guest network14:50
AzelphurAlanBell: hahaha, anticompetitiveness at it's greatest14:50
oimonshould've set up a ssh server running on port 139 :)14:51
AlanBellgoing via 44314:51
AlanBellslowed me down for several seconds14:51
AlanBellhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/1418765059.png good upload speed14:56
AlanBellif only I had lots of videos to upload14:57
DavieyAlanBell: torrent ubuntu iso? :)14:57
AlanBellI downloaded Oneiric Alpha 3 at home already14:58
DavieyAlanBell: i was talking about seeding15:01
* AlanBell seeds15:03
oimonah, the ever present sound of police sirens. i must be in E london15:06
AlanBellnot enough people torrenting it15:13
AlanBellah, no torrent is blocked15:14
AlanBellcould run it through tsocks back to my server but that would be silly15:14
* hamitron is getting sick of this internet connection messing15:16
hamitrongoing to get a cheaper ISP and use the spare cash for a VPN if things don't improve15:16
* AlanBell downloads alternate and server CDs15:21
* popey flounces away from mrevell 15:28
mrevellpopey, Heh, you're not London.15:28
AlanBellhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/109175303602657131317/posts/LCQbtAHeFsu issyl0 and assenseur15:29
popeymrevell: :D15:30
popeymrevell: I am glad you got the reference from that!15:30
* popey notes that AlanBell's link doesn't work for him15:33
popeythe pitfalls of being logged in multiple times in a browser15:33
oimonwhat would a blog planet be called in the non techy world? a syndicate?15:33
popeymy plus account is /u/2/ not /u/0/15:33
popeyblog aggregator15:33
popeyor news aggregator15:33
popeyor rss aggregator15:34
oimonbut if it's for a craft blog ? hmmm15:34
popeyfor feed aggregator15:34
popeythe first one then15:34
popeyblog post aggregator15:34
oimonnot sure if a dedicated one exists for girly things like this15:35
davmor2popey: WFM15:35
popeyshush davmor215:35
popeyi have explained why it doesnt work for _me_15:35
davmor2popey: I don't care :P15:36
popeyof course15:36
davmor2popey: how come you on a completely different g+ system then?15:36
oimonspecial (needs)15:37
AlanBellI don't know why that didn't work, should be public15:37
oimondoes that work?15:39
popey16:33:37 < popey> my plus account is /u/2/ not /u/0/15:39
popey16:33:22 < popey> the pitfalls of being logged in multiple times in a browser15:39
popey /u/0 is my popey account, /u/1 is my work account, /u/2 is my gmail account15:39
popeyAlanBell: its not that its public or not15:40
popeyis that two of my google accounts are Google Apps for Your Domain, and thus don't have Google+ on them15:40
AlanBelldoesn't the /u/0 in the url refer to *my* account not yours?15:40
popey /u/0 means the "first google account I am logged into in this browser"15:40
popey /u/1 is the second, /u/2 is the third etc15:41
AlanBellooh, that is broken then15:41
popeyI could logout of all my accounts and log back into the gmail one first15:41
davmor2popey: use your phone I'm assuming there's an app for that15:41
popeywhich would re-order them15:41
oimonthe link i posted works, right?15:41
* popey sighs15:41
oimonworkaround :)15:41
popeybut thats not a /u/0 link15:41
AlanBellclicked on the "link to this post" thing15:41
popeyforget it15:42
* oimon understands.15:42
* oimon steps away from popey before he gets upset15:42
popeyI have work to get me upset :D15:42
popeynot this15:42
* AlanBell tickles everyone15:42
* popey farts15:43
* czajkowski hugs popey 15:50
* daubers is confused.com15:50
czajkowskiGo compare15:50
czajkowskiGo compare15:50
czajkowskiGo compare15:50
czajkowskistupid song is now in my head!!!!15:50
daubersldap is really weird :(15:50
bigcalmIs there a simple introduction into setting up openvpn? I need to deploy to a state side server and never used vpn before15:51
davmor2czajkowski: I can help you with that :D  Narwhals, Narwhals swimming in the ocean....15:52
daubersczajkowski: Here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama, half a llama, twice a llama, llama llama duck15:53
* czajkowski wonders what annoying P P name we're gonna get 15:53
daubersczajkowski: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama15:53
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daubersThe ubuntu server guide is a bit thin on the "why" of things15:55
czajkowskidaubers: that's easy, because we said so, or blame Daviey15:56
* daubers goes to acquire another notebook15:56
daubersHmmm, none in the stationary cupboard15:58
davmor2czajkowski: this should help http://www.dafk.net/what/15:58
daubersreally must be a poets day15:58
davmor2daubers: every friday is poets day15:58
* daubers gives up and goes home16:00
popeyAlanBell: join #oggcamp16:02
popeygordonjcp needs you16:02
* Daviey reads scrollback16:12
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Davieyczajkowski: What am i being blamed for?16:12
GirlyGirlDaviey: not giving me money lol16:13
popey\o/ home time16:13
Davieypopey: part timer!16:15
DavieyGirlyGirl: sorry!16:15
s-foxTime to go. Goodbye.16:16
davmor2czajkowski: did that help at all?16:17
czajkowskiDaviey: ubuntu server guide16:17
Davieyczajkowski: ah yes. known isue16:18
czajkowskitis a bit thin on information16:19
czajkowskiDaviey: pet weekend project for you16:19
czajkowskino bother :)16:19
Davieyczajkowski: Yeah, writing docs sounds like a wonderful weekend hobby16:24
bigcalmAnybody care to recommend an online merchant of Ales?16:31
MartijnVdSI would be interested as well :)16:43
MartijnVdSbigcalm: it might be a problem to be an on-line ale merchant, because of age stuff16:43
MartijnVdSage verification stuff, mostly16:43
* suprengr wonders what's the point of on-line ale.... virtual alcohol? 16:54
suprengr[he says avec boutteil d'ale in hand ;D ]16:55
bigcalmMartijnVdS: I use http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/ for spirits16:56
bigcalmGetting ales won't be an issue16:56
bigcalmI'm just looking for recommendations16:56
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GirlyGirlhi lin-luxe17:01
lin-luxehey GirlyGirl, you the one who crashed your car?17:03
MartijnVdSlin-luxe: great opening, that17:04
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: its ok .. lin-luxe yes its me17:05
lin-luxeSo you still drive in stiletto heels after that?17:05
GirlyGirllin-luxe: hmm people keep telling me not to but I do as I can judge for myself if something is safe .. I did change the floor-matt so issue resolved17:07
* hamitron can't so much as walk in heels, nvm trying to drive17:08
MartijnVdShamitron: practice, practice, practice17:10
hamitronI guess once a week isn't enough? ;/17:11
GirlyGirlhamitron: I can't walk in sky high things either low ones are easy17:11
hamitronI like driving in grandpa slippers17:12
hamitronbbl, gotta get to pub for a quick one17:13
ubuntuuk-planet[Tony] OggCamp 11  one week to go! - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/08/05/oggcamp-11-one-week-to-go/17:15
lin-luxeGirlyGirl: Don't drive anyware near me though! (its a joke) no offense17:24
GirlyGirllin-luxe: like your sense of humour , truely I do.17:25
MartijnVdSwoo, http://vimeo.com/26028186 @ radio17:25
suprengroh dear... just did a whoopsey!  Used certificate patrol in firefox to delete all certificates... & bricked firefox entirely. I assume anyone who knows the answer also knows the consequences of what I just did & why help is required..17:32
MartijnVdSsuprengr: did you really delete them?17:34
MartijnVdSsuprengr: you can always create a new profile17:34
MartijnVdSbut then you'd have to find a way to migrate your bookmarks etc.17:34
suprengryeh :(   got sick of all the notifications given in google+ but it started me thinking... how many nasties were there *before* certificate patrol installed.  So like an idiot I thought - remove them all and start over...  whoopsie!17:36
MartijnVdSnotifications in g+?17:36
MartijnVdSand whati's certificate patrol?17:36
suprengrit's a firefox add-in giving notifications/warnings of new/updated/suspicious certificates.17:37
suprengr..& the profiles idea sounds better than restoring home directory from backup made this morning!17:38
MartijnVdSyou could try starting Chrome/Chromium17:39
MartijnVdSthen import all settings17:39
MartijnVdSthen ditching firefox :)17:39
MartijnVdSyou could just restore ~/.mozilla from the backup17:39
MartijnVdS(quit firefox first!)17:39
MartijnVdS(and thunderbird!)17:39
GirlyGirllol someone sent me this by mail http://www.flickr.com/photos/server_pics/4298589322/17:39
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: is that you?17:40
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: no17:40
suprengrChromium installed awhile back... would the import resolve the certificates prob?17:40
MartijnVdSsuprengr: I don't think it imports certificate prefs17:40
suprengrMartijnVdS, time to do as per suggestion - restore .mozilla!  doh!17:41
suprengrback in a mo17:41
MartijnVdSsuprengr: remove that useless extension too :)17:41
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: Why would that be me ... I have a purple yaris17:41
MartijnVdSsuprengr: just disable untrustworthy CAs :)17:41
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: You said you'd had a car crash and high heels17:42
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: this picture has both as well :)17:42
suprengrMartijnVdS, decision already made... pre your suggestion re removing it :D17:42
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: My car looks worse actually but it has both its lamps working (no lamp cover though)17:43
suprengrMartijnVdS,  - good idea - thanks prob solved.  now to add-ons, *remove* ;)   Thanks a million17:45
MartijnVdSsuprengr: np :)17:46
* GirlyGirl thinks people find her car accident amusing17:46
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: People in here tend to always look on the bright side of life17:49
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: (you survived! etc.)17:49
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: I guess I can laugh at myself too17:49
czajkowskigord: what should happen when hyou remove a lens17:58
czajkowskigord: does it need to restart for full effect17:58
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: I've a perfect reponse for that e-mail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjhpltb3kck&feature=related18:02
* davmor2 prods czajkowski 18:03
davmor2czajkowski: depends on the lens so are permanent as I understand it18:04
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: I'm waiting for a "park yourself now" button on a car18:04
czajkowskidavmor2: removed reddit and askubunt18:05
czajkowskiso now have a lens there with a ? mark over it18:05
czajkowskiput mouse over it and it says reddit and askubuntu and still works18:05
GirlyGirlMartijnVdS: I'm waiting for a "auto-repair" button lol18:05
MartijnVdSGirlyGirl: That'll be harder18:05
GirlyGirlI only need it once ... well I hope18:06
davmor2czajkowski: a quick google gave me this http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/06/how-to-remove-lenses-from-ubuntu-1104.html18:12
davmor2czajkowski: did the link help?18:45
* jacobw is listening to Queen19:36
jacobwi'll be sad when the previous tenant finally gets round to moving his hifi :p19:36
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Kick Out The Jam - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/05/kick-out-the-jam/20:15
AlanBellhmm, hello unthemed desktop, haven't seen you in a while20:20
AlanBellaquarius: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/add/ it has been unbroken20:29
dogmatic69evening all20:30
dogmatic69nobody about tonight?21:21
directhexokay. how do i create an armhf chroot?22:47
directhexwait, that was meant to be for #debian-uk22:47
lubotu3oggcamp is a two day unconference on August 13th/14th 2011 - See http://oggcamp.org/22:57
HazRPGah, foo22:58
HazRPGjust realised that CLUG meet and oggcamp are on the same date22:58

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