| _stink_ | can't do it bytewise, i get it now. gotta make the hex bit instead. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| _stink_ | sweet. | 00:00 |
| _stink_ | i overloaded 'bit' there. | 00:03 |
| _stink_ | s/bit/part. | 00:03 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha | 00:03 |
| rick_h_ | bah, getting cranky. My talk is the last one not on the site now | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | other than lightning talks I guess | 00:50 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: it was that full of awesome that they couldn't contain it all on youtube | 00:58 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: hah | 01:01 |
| rick_h_ | I had thought so, thanks for verifying | 01:02 |
| brousch | no, rick_h_'s talk was so hot the tape melted | 01:03 |
| snap-l | :q | 03:40 |
| snap-l | Good morning, folks. | 11:48 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:48 |
| Wolfger | party | 11:52 |
| brousch | naptime | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 12:02 |
| snap-l | ++ ++ | 12:03 |
| Wolfger | I wish it was naptime | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2011/08/03/so-youre-mad-about-something-on-the-internet/ | 12:08 |
| Wolfger | dickfinity. Priceless | 12:18 |
| greg-g | g'morn | 12:36 |
| rick_h_ | http://blip.tv/pyohio/sqlalchemy-tutorial-5442205 so so close! | 12:47 |
| greg-g | haha | 12:49 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Sheesh, you're like an expectant father. ;) | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | I want to keep ahead of the fall out | 12:50 |
| greg-g | and it is now the first bookmark of the day: https://bmark.us/recent | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | you have to understand, when I talk, I just kind of hit play and honestly can't remember much of the during | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | so people tell me there were people on the floor and in the hall | 12:51 |
| snap-l | You're assuming I remember anything I say an hour after saying it. | 12:51 |
| brousch | what are we talking about? | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | bah, picasa is taking too long | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | https://picasaweb.google.com/deuce868/pyohio#5635716983660312738 is my last view I really remember | 12:52 |
| snap-l | Nice, the other party's insurance is picking up our deductible. | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | and then a blur and then done | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | yay | 12:52 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: if you try to load my link above | 12:53 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's a bit of a relief. | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | my video is on the site, but gives an error "the video was recenlty added and isn't ready" or something | 12:53 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: That's what I got | 12:53 |
| snap-l | Oh, that was for brousch's benefit | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea | 12:54 |
| snap-l | GET WITH THE PROGRAM, brousch | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | it's a friday, we're all out of it | 12:54 |
| greg-g | snap-l: whew. Good dea. I remember when I was hit by a big Ram 2500 when I drove my little (but tough!) Ranger. Their insurance Did The Right Thing, too. | 12:54 |
| greg-g | s/dea/deal | 12:54 |
| snap-l | Yeah, honestly I was expecting to have to cough up the deductible. | 12:54 |
| snap-l | since there was no police report, etc. | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | sweet, snap-l's taking us all out to lunch! | 12:55 |
| greg-g | man, that picasa/google+ tagging of people in photos is still unnerving for me (same with facebook) | 12:55 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Hardly. | 12:55 |
| snap-l | Keeps us treading water, not floating calmly on it. ;) | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, I'm with you on that | 12:55 |
| snap-l | me too | 12:56 |
| snap-l | "blah blah tagged you in a photo". "NO! Don't do that! My sacred privacy!" | 12:56 |
| snap-l | Like brousch just did | 12:57 |
| brousch | hehe | 12:57 |
| brousch | i should tag people who aren't even in there | 12:57 |
| snap-l | Tag the chandelier as "Wil Wheaton" | 12:57 |
| snap-l | ;) | 12:58 |
| snap-l | At least you can remove it. | 12:59 |
| brousch | very nice | 12:59 |
| brousch | and i can BLOCK you from taggin me in the future | 13:00 |
| snap-l | Oh, how elegant. | 13:00 |
| greg-g | I think, that if you tag anyone else in a photo, your setting of blocking others from tagging you should be removed. Quid pro Quo and all that, mutha effer | 13:00 |
| greg-g | just like, if someone follows me on twitter, and their timeline is private, I shouldn't have to request to see their timeline, it should be pre-granted for me. | 13:01 |
| Wolfger | I hate it when people tag a photo with names of people who aren't in the photo. Don't do that. | 13:01 |
| greg-g | Wolfger: but, it'll be just like Facebook then! | 13:01 |
| greg-g | and we all love facebook! | 13:01 |
| Wolfger | greg-g: Yes, ++ (regarding twitter) | 13:02 |
| Wolfger | if you tag a photo with my name and I'm not in it, I will report you for spam :-p | 13:02 |
| Wolfger | because that's what you're doing | 13:02 |
| brousch | you're no fun | 13:03 |
| Wolfger | Yes I am. I have references. :-) | 13:03 |
| rick_h_ | http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/05/stop-its-a-really-bad-time-to-buy-a-kindle/ oh oh oh oh | 13:14 |
| brousch | snap-l: i sent a barcampgr announcement to ubuntu-mi, would you please pass it along to MUG? | 13:19 |
| brousch | and if someone in the washtenaw linux group would pass it along to them, i'd appreciate it | 13:20 |
| snap-l | Sure thing | 13:28 |
| snap-l | brousch: Done. | 13:29 |
| brousch | awesome, thanks | 13:29 |
| jrwren | does anyone use landscape? | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | nope | 14:01 |
| * greg-g only has a laptop nowadays | 14:03 | |
| greg-g | no need for that kind of management :) | 14:03 |
| brousch | i prefer portrait, but sometimes it just fits better in landscape | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | har har har | 14:04 |
| jrwren | if that was a terrible name dig... i agree :) | 14:05 |
| Wolfger | landscape... name... dig... <groan> | 14:06 |
| snap-l | Apparently it's a competition to see how many commands you can use in a sentence. ;) | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | lol, perl lightning talk at pyohio | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: we missed the fun stuff | 14:12 |
| Wolfger | ++ to today's xkcd alt text | 14:12 |
| Wolfger | aw man, there was Perl at PyOhio? I knew I should have gone... ;-) | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | going over porting moose stuff into python | 14:13 |
| snap-l | What? | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | the sun lighting talks are up | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Perl at PyOhio? No, no... | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | and one of them is how he's porting moose-isms from perl to python | 14:14 |
| snap-l | I haven't looked enough at Moose, but the mental image isn't pretty | 14:14 |
| snap-l | let's take Perl's riffing on everyone else's frameworks and port them back to Python | 14:15 |
| snap-l | That may be very unfair, though. My impression of Moose after giving it less than 5 minutes glance wasn't favorable. | 14:16 |
| snap-l | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=miroguide+pyohio <- Check this out | 14:16 |
| snap-l | mine has lococast at the top of that list. | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | same here | 14:17 |
| snap-l | ;) | 14:17 |
| greg-g | btw, we're rocking out again today, if you're down with listening to us DJ for you: http://turntable.fm/ubuntuallstars | 14:21 |
| snap-l | Facebook != listening | 14:21 |
| greg-g | I know I know :( | 14:22 |
| snap-l | (Sorry, but that's a big beef of mine with turntable.fm) | 14:22 |
| greg-g | I know, I held out for so long | 14:22 |
| snap-l | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-05/alcatel-s-76-drop-since-lucent-means-breakup-value-isn-t-french-real-m-a.html <- And this is why we can never have serious patent reform | 14:25 |
| snap-l | "Alcatel’s patents alone may be worth twice as much as the $4.5 billion that Nortel Networks’ licenses sold for in a bankruptcy auction in June, according to MKM Partners LP, even as analysts expect Alcatel’s routers and optical fiber products to drive a 59 percent share gain. " | 14:25 |
| greg-g | yeah, money talks | 14:28 |
| snap-l | w/q greg-g Worse, Lucent actually owns and has litigated mp3 patents. | 14:29 |
| snap-l | bah | 14:30 |
| snap-l | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatel-Lucent_v._Microsoft | 14:31 |
| brousch | does i3 have any employees? | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | I think it's all volunteer | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | they're not 501c3 yet | 14:43 |
| snap-l | I'm not even sure what an i3 employee would be. ;) | 14:48 |
| brousch | pr man, tours, videographer | 14:50 |
| brousch | paperwork | 14:50 |
| brousch | accounting | 14:50 |
| brousch | etc | 14:50 |
| brousch | bouncer | 14:50 |
| nullspace | looks like pastbin.com is down | 15:12 |
| nullspace | #i3detroit | 15:12 |
| rick_h_ | huh? | 15:13 |
| nullspace | paste bin went down for a little | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | so what was the #i3 reference to it? | 15:15 |
| greg-g | mistype | 15:15 |
| greg-g | my guess | 15:15 |
| nullspace | yep | 15:21 |
| nullspace | forgot the /j | 15:21 |
| nullspace | my guess is a bunch of people just learned to enumerate pastebin | 15:22 |
| rick_h_ | well there was a post up that pastebin.com had cross some large number of pastes this morning | 15:22 |
| rick_h_ | http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/05/pastebin-now-home-to-8-million-active-pastes/ | 15:23 |
| nullspace | makes me wonder how often they clear things out | 15:23 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: when did you realize you were a linux guru? | 15:28 |
| jrwren | or really... all: at what point did you realize you were a linux guru? | 15:28 |
| rick_h_ | when I stopped caring about windows | 15:28 |
| jrwren | really? | 15:28 |
| rick_h_ | just realized i didn't know how it worked/what it was up to anymore | 15:29 |
| jrwren | i know lots of linux peeps who hate on windows but who aren't very linux-savy | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but they hate, but can sit down and change the wallpaper | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | if you put win7 in front of me, I have no idea where/how that works | 15:29 |
| jrwren | ah... so I'd probably consider you a guru before that... but it was your lack of windows knowledge taht triggered your own guru realization | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | was more work for me to do things on the aunt's windows machine than on my linux machine | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | so maybe that's a better summary | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | for various definitions of guru I guess | 15:30 |
| _stink_ | mine's something like that - i think it was when i (1) could no longer answer simple questions from family/friends about windows + (2) became a resource for people at work about linux. | 15:31 |
| snap-l | Also, the definition of guru is overloaded IMHO | 15:31 |
| snap-l | guru can mean anything from being able to teach people how to do simple tasks in Linux to being able to handle a DDoS in a server room without a noticable drop in traffic. | 15:32 |
| _stink_ | i might use the word 'guy' instead. | 15:34 |
| _stink_ | that's when i knew i was a 'linux guy'. | 15:34 |
| brousch | but that was not his question | 15:35 |
| jrwren | agreed. | 15:35 |
| jrwren | guru definition is entirely subjective.. that is part of why I asked. | 15:35 |
| _stink_ | well | 15:35 |
| _stink_ | then my answer is that i am not a guru | 15:35 |
| jrwren | _stink_: but you are to those people at work who use you as a resource. | 15:35 |
| _stink_ | that's true, yes. | 15:36 |
| snap-l | I think everyone in this channel, to a T, can say they know someone who knows more about Linux than they do | 15:36 |
| snap-l | How did I become the go-to person for Linux questions? because I was for the longest time the only person | 15:37 |
| snap-l | It's not hard to be the pied piper when you're the only one playing the flute. | 15:37 |
| snap-l | it only depends on if the rats are listening | 15:37 |
| * snap-l wonders if he can abuse that metaphor any more than he already has | 15:38 | |
| ptenhoopen | snap-l: That was well put. | 15:39 |
| snap-l | Thank you. | 15:41 |
| brousch | i realized i was a guru when ptenhoopen let me present at him linux user group | 15:42 |
| brousch | his | 15:42 |
| ptenhoopen | brousch: Glad to have elevated your status. :) | 16:05 |
| rick_h_ | someone shut off my internet | 17:18 |
| rick_h_ | please hurry, NC dude is going off | 17:19 |
| snap-l | Heh | 17:19 |
| snap-l | Just found out that my parents cat has a tumor and an abcess. | 17:19 |
| _stink_ | :/ | 17:19 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 17:19 |
| snap-l | hopefully it's benign, but my parents aren't terribly happy at this point. | 17:19 |
| snap-l | Growing up sucks. | 17:20 |
| Wolfger | :-( | 17:20 |
| snap-l | thanks | 17:20 |
| Wolfger | abcesses suck | 17:20 |
| snap-l | Thanks. | 17:25 |
| snap-l | also, don't go to wikipeida to look them up | 17:25 |
| Wolfger | so noted | 17:29 |
| Wolfger | only 69 days until 11.10 comes out | 17:35 |
| brousch | 69! | 17:36 |
| Wolfger | I feel like I should be alpha/beta testing or something | 17:36 |
| brousch | make it so | 17:37 |
| * Wolfger waits for brousch to execute The Picard Maneuver... | 17:40 | |
| Wolfger | ugh. Periscope down. Time to crank out a big report on moment's notice before EoB. Have a good weekend everybody | 17:45 |
| Blazeix | wtf, they added another game to the humble bundle 3? How am I supposed to get meaningful work done? | 17:59 |
| brousch | Blazeix: that's easy, don't buy games :P | 18:01 |
| Blazeix | I budgeted time for 5 games, now I have 7, and my curve is all thrown off. | 18:03 |
| Blazeix | I assume next week I'll have 8. | 18:03 |
| Blazeix | actually, I never bought HB2, so I suppose I have all those games too. | 18:04 |
| greg-g | oh man, what's the point of chromium having separate process for each tab if I can't kill one's pid without killing all of chromium? | 18:19 |
| greg-g | yep, you do :) | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: there's a tool in chrome to do that | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | when I hit the config button there's a "view background pages" that lists tabs and extensions with an "end process" | 18:21 |
| greg-g | yeah, but what if I can't switch tabs/open up the wrench menu? | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | boom! | 18:21 |
| greg-g | yeah, big boom | 18:21 |
| Wolfger | ok, I'm going to have to buy this when I get home | 18:33 |
| Wolfger | not that I have time for more games in my life | 18:33 |
| snap-l | How's the afternoon treating everyone so far? | 20:12 |
| Blazeix | well, my 4 hour meeting turned into a 6 hour meeting. | 20:12 |
| Blazeix | so that was fun. | 20:12 |
| Blazeix | (company-wide, quarterly meeting) | 20:13 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Oh dear god | 20:13 |
| snap-l | Did they at least give pee breaks? | 20:13 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Ugh, even better | 20:14 |
| snap-l | "Let's hear it for Carol from Accounting, who made our processes 1.4% more efficient. Sadly, Carol cannot be with us because of the nervous breakdown she and her team had while aiming for that 1.4% efficiency boost". | 20:14 |
| snap-l | "Let that be a lesson to you all. I want you all to have nervous breakdowns if it means we can do more with less". | 20:15 |
| snap-l | "Also, I'd like to welcome Bob as the new head of accounting. I'm sure Bob will follow carefully in Carol's footsteps, and will be a great asset to the team. Plus he already knows the fine folks at Shady Pines Asylum from his previous position in finance." | 20:19 |
| Blazeix | yeah, that was pretty much it. talking about benefits, recruiting, other stuff I don't care about | 20:22 |
| snap-l | I really hate financial institution security. | 20:29 |
| snap-l | Pick the following image. Enter a catch phrase. What is your favorite brand of golf-ball | 20:29 |
| snap-l | I swear, it's like getting a rorschach test along with playing a party game | 20:30 |
| brousch | sqlalchemy gurus http://paste.mitechie.com/show/375/ | 20:33 |
| brousch | my query does not seem to be filtering by is_bad | 20:33 |
| brousch | i don't know why | 20:33 |
| snap-l | What's in the column? (select distinct is_bad from table ...) | 20:37 |
| Blazeix | that should be ==, not =, right? | 20:38 |
| Blazeix | oh, wait, maybe both work | 20:38 |
| _stink_ | filter_by should use single =, it hink | 20:38 |
| _stink_ | filter() wants == | 20:38 |
| Blazeix | ah, you're right | 20:38 |
| _stink_ | can't tell why this wouldn't work, though. | 20:39 |
| snap-l | I think the data is hinky | 20:39 |
| brousch | i see 1s and 0s in the sqlite db | 20:39 |
| brousch | for true and false | 20:39 |
| snap-l | OK, so that's OK. | 20:40 |
| brousch | it seems to be getting set correctly, but it's returning all results, ignoring the filters | 20:40 |
| snap-l | did you try it without the limit? | 20:41 |
| _stink_ | dunno, can you AND two filter_bys? | 20:41 |
| _stink_ | i would guess you can | 20:41 |
| snap-l | also, what's the sql display? | 20:41 |
| _stink_ | i know you can AND filter() like that. | 20:41 |
| brousch | maybe they don't chain? | 20:41 |
| brousch | i think they do | 20:41 |
| _stink_ | i think they do too. | 20:42 |
| _stink_ | but didn't test. :P | 20:42 |
| snap-l | add "echo=True" to your create_engine, and paste the SQL | 20:42 |
| snap-l | engine = create_engine('sqlite:///piddlepodderpy.db', echo=True) | 20:42 |
| brousch | i don't have a create engine | 20:42 |
| brousch | it's using flask-sqlalchemy | 20:42 |
| snap-l | Um, so find where it binds the engine and see if you can add the echo? :) | 20:43 |
| snap-l | Also, Unity can die in a fire with the way that windows that pop up steal focus | 20:44 |
| snap-l | Banshee doesn't like it when I tell it -sqlalchemy | 20:44 |
| snap-l | brousch: http://packages.python.org/Flask-SQLAlchemy/config.html | 20:45 |
| snap-l | SQLALCHEMY_ECHO | 20:45 |
| brousch | got it http://paste.mitechie.com/show/376/ | 20:46 |
| snap-l | When you run that query under sqlite3, what does it give you? | 20:47 |
| Blazeix | hm, are you displaying the right variable on your UI? that query _seems_ correct | 20:48 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: ++. I've not seen anything yet to suggest a problem. | 20:48 |
| snap-l | unless sqlite3 is behaving like a piece of shit | 20:48 |
| snap-l | (which it can do from time to time) | 20:48 |
| Blazeix | sqlite. Querying not supported. | 20:48 |
| brousch | looks like it doesn't work under sqlite3 either | 20:49 |
| brousch | hm | 20:50 |
| snap-l | Which version of sqlite3? | 20:51 |
| snap-l | (this is part of my eternal frustration with sqlite3. When it works it's a dream. When it doesn't, it's no better than just throwing random shit into files) | 20:51 |
| brousch | 3.6.22 | 20:52 |
| snap-l | You may have a buggy version | 20:52 |
| brousch | it's the current version in ubuntu 10.04, so i hope not | 20:52 |
| Blazeix | flask is a web framework, right? maybe you should just set up postgres or something. | 20:52 |
| snap-l | That's the spirit. ;) | 20:53 |
| Blazeix | I've only ever had issues with sqlite. | 20:53 |
| Blazeix | I've never had it fail this hard before, though. | 20:53 |
| snap-l | "I see you're having problems with your puny file-based SQL engine. Man up and install a real database." | 20:53 |
| snap-l | I had problems with sqlite3 under 10.04 as well | 20:54 |
| snap-l | commits didn't commit | 20:54 |
| Blazeix | I'm exemplifying typical IRC helpfulness. "X isn't working." "Why are you trying to X?" | 20:54 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Oh, totally. That's the way of IRC. | 20:54 |
| snap-l | "I see you're trying to kill an ant. I find that flyswatter 2.0 is not effective. I prefer SCUD missiles, personally" | 20:55 |
| snap-l | "borax as ant poison? Takes too long. I just microwave my house." | 20:56 |
| snap-l | "I picked up 4 microwave dishes from the MIT flea market for dirt cheap. You might be able to find the same thing at Radio Shack" | 20:56 |
| snap-l | "total cost of the project: $30 and a handjob" | 20:57 |
| snap-l | (yes, I'm dissing Make and Lifehacker as well) | 20:57 |
| brousch | hm, i don't think these are getting set as bad | 20:58 |
| Blazeix | hm, didn't your initial 'distinct' query return some records with is_bad=True? | 20:58 |
| Blazeix | if you're setting stuff as is_bad=True, then immediately requerying, you might need to flush the session. | 20:58 |
| snap-l | Also check if a commit is sent | 20:59 |
| snap-l | brousch: Another thought: how many processes are connecting to this file? | 20:59 |
| brousch | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/377/ | 20:59 |
| brousch | does that look right for setting is_bad in each of them? | 21:00 |
| snap-l | I'm not sure if sqlite3 can handle multiple connections | 21:00 |
| snap-l | brousch: Check the SQL. It's the only way to be sure. | 21:00 |
| snap-l | Also, you might want to spin up another DB, just to make sure that you're not chasing sqlite errors | 21:02 |
| snap-l | I about drove myself batty with sqlite3 and Perl, only to realize that sqlite3 wasn't honoring the commits I was sending. | 21:03 |
| Blazeix | oh my god. Someone extended the boolean type in this project with a method called IsTrue() | 21:05 |
| snap-l | Beauty. :) | 21:05 |
| _stink_ | haha | 21:05 |
| Blazeix | ah, it isn't as bad as i initially thought. | 21:06 |
| Blazeix | it was added as part of a fluent api unit test framework, where you write test cases like foo.hasBaz().isTrue() | 21:07 |
| Blazeix | it's a little bit awkward, but _maybe_ forgiveable for a fluent api | 21:07 |
| Blazeix | but the references leaked from the test project into the main project, so it was popping up in the autocomplete of my editor. | 21:08 |
| snap-l | I'm starting to really hate budget classical releases. | 21:14 |
| snap-l | Never any meta-data for any of them in MusicBrainz | 21:14 |
| snap-l | 15 tracks, each by a different composer / orchestra / conductor | 21:14 |
| brousch | it's like the commit never runs | 22:11 |
| brousch | hm, the change is made, but it's never committed | 22:13 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: sheesh, what did NC dude do to warrant you flooding the place? | 22:39 |
| snap-l | brousch: try mysql or postgresql | 22:39 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: never use filter by, just filter. I wish he'd remove that filterby | 22:58 |
| brousch | what's the difference? | 22:58 |
| brousch | i don't think that's my problem though | 22:59 |
| brousch | the queries look correct, it's just not committing | 22:59 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, reading scrollback | 22:59 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so is .query valid for your model? | 23:00 |
| rick_h_ | did you copy the part from my demo code that added that? | 23:00 |
| rick_h_ | and are you getting results from your query? | 23:00 |
| rick_h_ | e.g. your loop is executing? | 23:01 |
| rick_h_ | and filterby brousch the space after the .\ I don't think is valid | 23:02 |
| rick_h_ | bah sorry | 23:02 |
| rick_h_ | you have spaces between the . and \ | 23:02 |
| rick_h_ | I don't think you can have that or it breaks the chain | 23:03 |
| brousch | i think i figured it out | 23:13 |
| brousch | something about the record not being in the session | 23:14 |
| brousch | so the commit doesn't see the change | 23:14 |
| brousch | and commits nothing | 23:14 |
| brousch | but if i add it, it ays that's already attached to a different session | 23:15 |
| rick_h_ | you shouldn't have two sessions going on | 23:17 |
| rick_h_ | the db.Model should be bound to db.session | 23:18 |
| rick_h_ | not sure how flask extension sets it up | 23:18 |
| brousch | definitely something wonky there | 23:19 |
| brousch | a second session is coming from somewhere | 23:27 |
| brousch | i must have mucked it up when i moved my database models out of the same file as my views | 23:32 |
| brousch | i just moved them back and now it works | 23:32 |
| brousch | it works now, so i'm just going to leave the models in there | 23:38 |
| brousch | i think it's from the facy hookup the flask-sqlalchemy extension uses. if i use regular sqlalchemy i think it would work | 23:43 |
| rick_h_ | well every web framework does some fancy hookup so that each request gets their own session | 23:46 |
| rick_h_ | so that user 1 can't change/overwrite/conflict with user 2 | 23:46 |
| brousch | but in http://paste.mitechie.com/show/377/ | 23:50 |
| brousch | the changes to bgi are in a different session from the db.session.commit() | 23:50 |
| brousch | almost like it's pulling a new session out of thin air. is there a way to ensure something happens in a specific session? | 23:54 |
| brousch | maybe like db.session.query(GridItem)... | 23:55 |
| rick_h_ | you create a session and then it goes bound to the db.Model | 23:55 |
| rick_h_ | that needs to be the same session you're using in db.session | 23:56 |
| rick_h_ | http://packages.python.org/Flask-SQLAlchemy/contexts.html ? | 23:58 |
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