[06:00] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:00] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:13]  * nlsthzn_work waves @ Kilos and superfly and others :p
[06:13] <superfly> hi nlsthzn_work
[06:13] <superfly> how's work?
[06:14] <nlsthzn_work> Well... OK thanks for asking... and there in ZA land?
[06:14] <nlsthzn_work> superfly: ^
[06:15] <superfly> wet
[06:15] <superfly> at least here in Cape Town
[06:15] <superfly> and cold
[06:15] <superfly> but I'm pretty warm in my nice new jacket
[06:16] <nlsthzn_work> Cool :) (or I mean hot?)
[06:17] <superfly> yeah, quite hot actually
[06:17] <superfly> might have to take it off just now to cool down :-)
[06:35] <nlsthzn_work> :)
[06:45] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:45]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[06:45] <Kilos> today eskom trying to kill me, the swines
[06:46] <Kilos> power keeps cutting and had to boot from karmic to fix grub
[06:47] <hihanhoesj> Hi all
[06:47] <Kilos> hiya hihanhoesj 
[06:49] <hihanhoesj> Hows things going?
[06:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:49] <Kilos> good ty hihanhoesj and there
[06:49] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:49] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[06:50] <hihanhoesj> good, good :)
[06:50] <Kilos> how did you work your nick out
[06:50] <Kilos> lol
[06:51] <Kilos> sounds near to a cough syrup
[06:51] <Kilos> sorry
[06:51] <hihanhoesj> trying to set up a tun interface via ssh, to bypass our firewall :)
[06:52] <Kilos> whew enjoy
[06:53] <hihanhoesj> hmm thinking I am biting off more than I can chew at the moment :)
[06:53] <Kilos> i know nothing about them but cant you set the fw to accept you
[06:54] <hihanhoesj> I could.....
[06:54] <Kilos> or who do you want to bypass the fw
[06:54] <hihanhoesj> but where is the challenge in doing that :)
[06:54] <Kilos> isnt that an easier way
[06:54] <Kilos> lol
[06:54] <Kilos> ok
[06:54] <hihanhoesj> the only way to learn, is to chalenge youself...
[06:55] <hihanhoesj> besides, it might be easier, but its gonna take longer ;)
[06:55] <hihanhoesj> I need to ask permission first
[06:55] <superfly> hihanhoesj: ssh on a known safe port :-)
[06:55] <hihanhoesj> I can ssh
[06:56] <hihanhoesj> but I cant git pull
[06:56] <superfly> oh right
[07:15] <hihanhoesj> not so difficult after all :)
[07:15] <Kilos> well done
[07:16] <hihanhoesj> ssh -w <local tun number>:<remote tun number> <host>
[07:16] <hihanhoesj> where <local tun number> and <remote tun number> a tunX interface is
[07:17] <hihanhoesj> or any for the next available
[07:17] <nuvolari> o/
[07:17] <nuvolari> lo everyone
[07:17] <nuvolari> morings oom Kilos 
[07:17] <hihanhoesj> for your future reference :)
[07:17] <hihanhoesj> morning nuvolari
[07:18] <Kilos> morning nuvolari 
[07:18] <Kilos> hihanhoesj, save that info somewhere
 + <s>, commited to my memory :)
[08:44] <Kilos> lo |3o|3 morgs sdehaan 
[08:45] <morgs> hi Kilos *
[13:09] <queery> Symmetria, welcome back
[13:11] <nlsthzn_work> Home time :D ... tata
[15:50] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey and others
[15:50] <Kilos> lo superfly 
[15:51] <kbmonkey> lo Kilos 
[15:51] <kbmonkey> doing well?
[15:52] <Kilos> kinda ty. had some probs 
[15:52] <Kilos> power cut about 5 or 6 times and my brug got hurt
[15:52] <Kilos> grub
[15:52] <kbmonkey> ja myself hay. I have this terrible craving for shortbread and there is none around
[15:53] <Kilos> had to boot from karmic and run sudo update-grub
[15:53] <kbmonkey> *first world problems (tm) he he
[15:53] <kbmonkey> oh dear. did it reinstall okay in the end?
[15:53] <Kilos> now if i boot and try the recovery option it doesnt work as it used to
[15:54] <kbmonkey> you have karmic and the new one both ?
[15:54] <Kilos> on booting all test tiny till i actually in
[15:54] <Kilos> karmic and maverick
[15:54] <Kilos> luckily or i woulda been struggling stil
[15:55] <Kilos> booted to initramfs
[15:55] <kbmonkey> the maverick recovery option is broken? maybe just update-grub from inside maverick
[15:55] <Kilos> can one run recovery from cli?
[15:55] <Kilos> i have
[15:56] <Kilos> i also get a tiny script saying diskdrive uuid not ready
[15:56] <kbmonkey> :(
[15:56] <Kilos> then it boots
[15:56] <kbmonkey> not sound good
[15:56] <Kilos> no me cries
[15:56] <kbmonkey> does maverick boot then?
[15:57] <Kilos> yes i am in it now, just the recovery doesnt work and on booting i get that script but too fast to see what all it says
[15:58] <kbmonkey> does recovery just take you to a command line?
[15:58] <kbmonkey> thats all recovery is, a root login
[15:59] <Kilos> it runs on its own but now only goes halfway to what it used to then i get the option to resume normal boot but inna tiny window
[16:00] <Kilos> but i can still get in, just annoying to not work properly
[16:02] <Kilos> and my maverick been so lekker for so long
[16:02] <Kilos> boo hoo hoo
[16:03] <Kilos> you supposed to say 'now now, dont cry'
[16:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:05]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:09] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:09] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[16:14] <kbmonkey> now, now don't cry
[16:15] <Kilos> lmga
[16:15] <kbmonkey> im confused when you say 'only goes halfway' <?
[16:16] <kbmonkey> i wonder if some files of yours got broken with the power cuts
[16:16] <Kilos> it normally runs lotsa scripts and then goes back to boot options but now it goes back earlier and the boot options window is tiny
[16:16] <Kilos> must have been
[16:16] <Kilos> like grub for starters
[16:16] <kbmonkey> goes back too boot options? no no, it should boot the OS not go back :p
[16:17] <Kilos> never mind i will try recover bit by bit from earlier updates
[16:17] <kbmonkey> first step is to look for any errors that show during that boot :)
[16:17] <Kilos> how are youuuuuu
[16:18] <Kilos> i will try but they flash by too fast for one eye to keep up
[16:19] <Kilos> i can boot straight in
[16:19] <kbmonkey> ek het koekies gevind! shortbread
[16:19] <Kilos> shortbread be very lekker
[16:20]  * Kilos thinks sis has a great recipe from my grans time
[16:22] <Kilos> i think the eat some more one was the best over the years
[16:25] <kbmonkey> if you can spare the 200K, you can get the ubuntu document on grub, how to fix it with a live cd and all that
[16:26] <Kilos> sounds good. link please
[16:26] <kbmonkey> in a terminal run:
[16:26] <kbmonkey> wget -O ubuntu-grub2.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:26] <kbmonkey> that will download the html for you. no images.
[16:26] <Kilos> i tried synaptic and it took 2.3m download
[16:26] <Kilos> lol so i stretch again
[16:27] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey  i go get and read
[16:27] <kbmonkey> no I make that command for you so you wont need to open a browser :)
[16:27] <kbmonkey> you can download most web pages like that. 
[16:27] <Kilos> oh ty so much clever kid
[16:28] <kbmonkey> you still open the file with web browser, but is all offline
[16:28] <kbmonkey> hi MPD 
[16:28] <Kilos> i run that in cli hey?
[16:28] <Kilos> hi MPD 
[16:28] <kbmonkey> yes kilos. it will put the file into your home ~ folder
[16:29] <Kilos> ty
[16:29] <kbmonkey> 202K size
[16:29] <Kilos> thats great ty
[16:29] <kbmonkey> MPD, do you use the mpd music player by any chance?
[16:29] <kbmonkey> :D
[16:30] <Kilos> wow it fetched that in .9 s
[16:39] <kbmonkey> lots of reading in that one. see section #12 Kilos :)
[16:39] <kbmonkey> saved my but a few times that page
[16:39] <Kilos> k will do
[16:39] <Kilos> butt
[16:40] <kbmonkey> butt dont bother with that graphical boot-repair tool. you can fix it without that tool
[16:40] <kbmonkey> with just a live cd, thats all you need
[16:40] <Kilos> ah ty. still looking for section 12
[16:43] <kbmonkey> a tip: before you boot the live cd, while in maverick/karmic, run "df -h" and write down which /dev/sdXY is used for root (/) and home (if any). makes life easier when you know which partitions are used ;)
[16:43] <Kilos> will do that dankie
[16:44]  * kbmonkey gives kilos a cookie
[16:44] <kbmonkey> he he
[16:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz, cookies please
[16:44] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!
[16:44]  * Kilos smiles in gratitude
[16:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz, go play in /dev/null
[16:44] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[18:19] <Kilos> night everyone. sleep tight
[18:19] <Kilos> i fix grub tomorrow
[18:19] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[18:19] <Maaz> Cheers Kilos