[00:01] xcv: have you found out if t works on the newer 3.0.x kernel? might be a not-so-pain-in-the-butt version of that [00:02] where can I get it? as I said I'm a bit afraid of kernel updates, I had bad experiences in opensuse with the nvidia proprietary driver [00:03] I really can't say that you wont have problems with a kernel update, but often it's the way to go.... let me find a backport of a 3 series for natty [00:04] SIR_Taco: ok, thank you [00:06] this should help: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-0-rc2-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal [00:10] SIR_Taco: where can I get the pae kernel? [00:10] xcv, install linux-generic-pae it'll pull everything in [00:11] xcv, a very bad idea to install outside kernels (ie 3.0) in natty [00:12] bazhang: if you have a hardware problem... downgrade then? [00:12] bazhang: what should I do then? I need to update my 2.6.38-10 to >=2.6.39 because of a bug in the ath9x driver [00:12] SIR_Taco, file a bug, wait for oneiric release, work with that [00:13] xcv, whats the bug, link please [00:13] bazhang: and the 2.6.39?? where is it? [00:13] bazhang: I agree, but you will either need to upgrade or downgrade to get your hardware working properly again... [00:14] SIR_Taco: if I install it, will I be able to choose the older 2.6.38-10 in the grub menu? [00:15] i got a ppa for (currently) 3.0.7, if that would help - the mainline 3.x didn't work with the fglrx but the ppa provides a fixed one [00:16] xcv: yes, your old kernel will be there [00:16] perfect, please wait and I will be back after the install & reboot [00:17] xcv: ok [00:24] SIR_Taco? [00:24] yes? [00:25] the new kernel doesn't even recognize the card [00:25] i'm using the old one [00:26] do you still have the previous kernel for which it worked available through Grub? [00:27] yes, i'm using it right now, but with it, wifi sometimes suddenly disconnects and it's very annoying [00:27] xcv, got the bug link? [00:28] no, sorry, where? [00:28] have ryou asked the atheros/madwifi guys? [00:28] xcv, you said there was a bug with that card [00:28] i've seen that the bug is fixed in the 2.6.39 kernel [00:28] yes [00:28] xcv, so bug link, please [00:29] wait, please, i will look for it [00:32] i think that it is this one, or very similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/726058 [00:32] Ubuntu bug 726058 in linux (Ubuntu) "wireless disconnects randomly" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:46] xcv, looks like the bug report says upgrading to the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-rc1-natty/ did not fix the issue. could you tell me the exact card, please ie lspci from terminal (if pci) or lsusb (if usb), then paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link [00:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/659640/ [00:48] bazhang: ↑ [00:50] http://blog.homelinux.org/?p=327 xcv seen this? [00:54] ok i just did it and i'll reboot now [00:54] thanks i will be back in a moment [00:58] bazhang: thank you, it works apparently, i just have to wait and see if it is stable now [00:58] =) [01:24] I've switched my mother to Kubuntu. She used to use an old version (8) of dreamweaver to do her websites. I was hoping to move her to something free/open source, but it needs to be WYSIWYG and it needs to sync her files with SFTP from a local working copy. [01:25] anyone know if by chance deleting /etc/hosts.allow | hosts.deny will remove the tcp_wrappers ability? [01:25] not seeing any actual packages in regards to it specifically [01:31] jschall_: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software is a decent list of comparisions or Kompozer for KDE is a decent WYSIWYG program [01:32] otherwise one of them might do the job: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTML_editors#WYSIWYG_editors , jschall_ [01:33] thanks alexThunder [01:35] ? [01:36] thanking you for the extra link [01:37] oh, np :) [01:41] btw, dreamweaver 8 seems to work nice with wine [01:41] according to the app db [02:24] aaa === emma is now known as em [03:23] kubunutu?? [03:28] Hi all.......ive been trying to install modelines etc on kubuntu 11.04 using kate /kwrite as root.......but when i try and save the xorg.conf file ......it refuses to.....any ideas would be great......thanks [04:03] Hi all.......ive been trying to install modelines etc on kubuntu 11.04 using kate /kwrite as root.......but when i try and save the xorg.conf file ......it refuses to.....any ideas would be great......thanks [04:04] define "refuses to" [04:04] does it return any error messages ? [04:05] kubuntu doesn't have a root [04:06] !root [04:06] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [04:06] ArchangelSe7en, ..........."cannot save to xorg.conf file" you do not have enough permission, "close", save" dont save" [04:07] read up linuxguy ^^^ [04:08] sudo kate /path/to/file is all you'll need if you can use sudo [04:09] or I should say kdesudo kate [04:09] ArchangelSe7en, yes have ridden that..........i have tried to use kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf i can get access to it (the xorg.conf file) but it will not save at all come up with same message I posted earlier [04:09] in your case "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" [04:09] !kdesudo [04:09] In KDE use « kdesudo » (or « kdesu » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why [04:10] apologies for that slip [04:11] linuxguy: in your terminal of choice what does ls -lh /etc/X11/xorg.conf return? [04:12] well_laid_lawn, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.0K 2011-08-05 03:22 /etc/X11/xorg.conf is what i see [04:13] so with sudo privileges you should be able to edit that file [04:13] try in a terminal with nano [04:14] maybe i am not in the sudoers file.........i will have to look into that later as its late here now........5:15AM and Im about to get some sleep.........pls keep posting.........i will be awake soon........its obviously something Ive missed out here :( [04:14] s/nano/sudo nano/ [04:14] nite all.........and thanks........I will read the messages latrs :) [04:15] not much more anyone could add at this stage... [04:15] nite :) === Guest80400 is now known as dequire === administrator is now known as Guest56161 [06:13] admin [07:20] !list [07:20] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [07:21] what you looking for salvatore? [07:26] Hello everybody [07:26] Greetings [07:27] thanks.. [07:28] i have a problem regarding fonts. In system settings i have downloaded few kdm login themes. after that the system font become small and looks like monochrome [07:28] i havent changed fonts at all [07:29] the fonts looks very bad. But the font on KMENU is same as before. ( smooth font) [07:29] plz help me [07:31] So, the themes changed the fonts? [07:31] have you checked the system stetting for the font change? [07:32] no actually i browsed some theme, when clicked on download button they appear as downloaded. but once i closed the dialog no new themes appear there [07:32] after that the fonts has changed [07:33] Interesting. [07:33] Just login themes? [07:33] yes [07:34] this has happened several times before when i played around installing some themes (LOGIN and other) the system fonts looks monochrome [07:35] thanks for ur reply [07:36] How did you fix it last time? [07:36] I'm trying to re-create it on my system... [07:36] no i couldnt i have re installed Kubuntu [07:36] 11.04? [07:37] try changing the font in system settings [07:37] no presently 10.10 [07:37] can i send a screenshot [07:38] sure. [07:38] i am new to IRC [07:38] how could i ? i am on quassel [07:39] !paste [07:39] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:39] To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add [07:39] ok thanks [07:40] * DarkwingDuck uses imm.io but, imagebin works :D [07:40] I should get some sleep... [07:41] http://imagebin.org/166630 [07:41] hi i have uploaded the screen shot at the above url [07:41] plz have look if u can [07:42] What fonts are messed up? [07:42] all system ones .. like [07:42] all applications [07:43] dolphin [07:43] u could see in the screen shot the font difference between Kmenu font and others [07:44] http://imagebin.org/166630 [07:47] Any idea plz ? [07:48] I can't recreate the issue... Have you tried changing the system fonts in system settings? [07:49] venkata: Did you try uninstalling the themes you downloaded? [07:50] actually no themes were downloaded into system. when i clicked install , in the theme browse dialog, that themes were appeared as installed [07:50] after closing the dialog there are no themes in the list [07:50] yes I know.. I remember something like that happening [07:51] only default theme there [07:52] any workaround for the issue [07:54] venkata: system settings ->application appreance [07:55] and then try changing the fonts [07:55] plz have a look at my current font setting in the following image [07:57] http://imagebin.org/166633 [07:57] sorry for late response. my net speed is very slow [07:58] Does it change if you click the "defaults" button? [07:58] yes try default [07:58] even I have the same settings...heh [07:58] ya i havent changed the font settings infact. [07:58] ok let me try with fonts [07:59] Okay, 4am, time for sleep. Good luck venkata [07:59] thanks [08:00] Sorry I couldn't help more. :/ [08:00] have a sound sleep [08:00] thanks all for ur response [08:00] Eh, My kids will prolly get me up in about 3 hours. [08:00] hahha :) [08:08] thanks.. when i clicked on defaults.. all fonts have changed from ubuntu font to Sans Serif [08:08] this time the font size has been increased [08:08] but the new font has rough edges still [08:08] ah :) [08:09] not as smooth as when installed kubuntu [08:09] u could see the diff before and after the change in this chat box itself === robert__ is now known as Gamoder [09:23] hi to all [09:23] houston we have a problem [09:23] :D [09:24] i installeed the kubuntu 11.4 using the 4gb dvd [09:24] i am using 2 monitor 1 is my mobile the other is an lcd monitor [09:25] everytime i boot i can't see the windows openede but if i use alt+tab i see there there is windows [09:25] but after i choose one it disappear and the only think i see is the walpaper [09:25] thing* [09:26] in the second monitor it's like kwin and plasma-desktop not running [09:26] so i can open dolphin but there isn't the close button [09:26] can someone hellp me? [09:52] hellooooo [09:53] Hunni: Hi [09:54] hi [09:55] girlygirl Where is everybody [09:56] Hunni: I did something to them hahaha ... and you are next on my list [09:57] what makes u think your not oon my list hahaha [09:58] Helloooo everyone that joined in [09:59] GirlyGirl Cat got ur tongue [10:00] Hunni: We shall see [10:00] find another channel please [10:02] GirlyGirl Whats Wrong Hunni, U can talk to me! there is not need for that! if something is bothering u talk to me [10:03] Hunni: ok #kubuntu-offtopic for such [10:04] EVeryone b careful GirlGirl Apperently does something to some of us hahahaa [10:04] So GirlyGirl where are U from then [10:05] how can i use double monitor? [10:05] i now deleted the .kde [10:05] one monitor have kde ok the other don't have enithing [10:05] how can i set it to run kde? [10:05] on the second monitor there is only the wallpaper [10:05] and mouse of course :) [10:05] on right click i can add widgets and other thing but it's like kwin and plasma-desktop is not tunning on second monitor [10:05] can someone help me? [10:05] onebitxajax: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:06] at where it stop? [10:07] onebitxajax: what do you mean? you said it has a wallpaper and you can add widgets, so KDE is running fine [10:08] tsimpson: no [10:08] tsimpson: because there isn't the pannel [10:08] so add one [10:08] tsimpson: if i add one and open a dolphin it open it without the close buttone [10:08] withoute the composite [10:09] buahaha [10:09] now if i open something on monitor 1 it appear on monitor 2 [10:09] buahaah [10:09] there is something wrong with configuration of 2 monitor [10:09] onebitxajax Sorry i cant help u :( [10:10] Hunni: nope [10:10] I have 2 monitors, works fine [10:10] how tou configure them? [10:10] from System Settings [10:10] System Settings -> Display and Monitor [10:12] onebitxajax what do u mean Nope [10:12] tsimpson: i see ongly 1 monitor in system setting but on nvidia there is 2 [10:12] Hunni: :P === mc is now known as zafer [10:13] Anyway Nevermind was just being Nice [10:13] Hunni: ghghghg [10:14] loool Who im i Kiddin being Nice loooool [10:14] okk rebbot [10:14] i will reboot and try to reinstall all system [10:14] :/ [10:15] so where u fromm then? nd are u M\F [10:15] onebitxajax: you probably need nvidia-settings to configure the nvidia graphics I guess [10:16] Hunni: #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter, #kubuntu is for support only [10:16] Tsimpson well done that is correct [10:17] Hunni: if you know it's correct, then you'll stop the offtopic chat in here [10:18] And ur point is?!!!!! [10:19] u just jeolous that im not talking 2u [10:19] Hunni: to join #kubuntu-offtopic unless you have a support request [10:22] ok [10:22] when asking to install the third party software [10:22] what kind of software it will install? [10:22] (in the installation procedure) [10:25] hello everybody [10:27] i was configuring the plasma dashboard and i remembered that in opensuse i was able to set a hot corner fot it, but now in kubuntu i can't... is it possible anyways? [10:34] xcv: it's in System Settings, either under Workspace or Window Behaviour (I think) [10:42] tsimpson: okay, i see it now, it was translated into panel, thank you [10:59] why there is no major change in kde??? [11:00] naseem: I believe KDE 4.7 is out? isn't that major enough?(and this wouldn't be the right place to ask this question IMO) [11:02] I'm new here...what is the question of disscussion here?? [11:02] before I redirect you, are you asking why there is no major change in KDE or KDE in ubuntu? === administrator is now known as Guest49647 [11:09] Cannot ping nokia n900 with kde network manger!!!!!!! === paolo is now known as faLUCE === chiky is now known as chiky_ [11:37] peace [11:53] hi [12:09] Hey guys, I'm trying to get the enable/disable shortcut on my ASUS 1215n to work via synaptiks [12:10] But when I try to bind it via the KDE settings, it says the key is not supported by Qt.. anyone know of a way around this? [12:10] It's an Fn+F9 shortcut [12:16] Imek: mmm [12:21] Hi........I am trying to edit my xorg.conf file to get a better resolution than the basic 1024x768 res.........ive followed other instructions earlier, but they didnnt work well........im using kubuntu 11.04/kde 4.7 and a nvidia 9500gt card.... i have better resolutions with other distros [12:24] linuxguy: mm have you installed proprietary driver ? [12:25] Peace-, i used the aditional drivers from kubuntu [12:25] linuxguy: i guess , i am not sure but i think to remember you have to do sudo nvidia-settings [12:25] something like that [12:26] maybe from that panel o that application you can set better your stuff [12:26] i have intel [12:27] Peace-, there was an experimental driver........but it didnt say what it was.........i think I have the awful nouveau driver :( [12:28] linuxguy: have you seen the wiki ? [12:28] !nvidia [12:28] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [12:30] Peace-, aahh something interesting here.......ive just clicked on hardare drivers.....it says i have the 3D driver activated.......but also says its not in use.......maybe now i need to blacklist the nouveau driver? [12:30] mm [12:30] jokey-kde [12:30] screenshot === TSK_ is now known as TSK [12:34] brb [12:52] The 'Enable Wireless' option in the network manager isn't highlighted..I'm not able to enable it, can someone assist? === sayakb_away is now known as sayakb [12:55] pranavrc: do you have a separate switch that turn the wireless on? [12:55] s/turn/turns [12:56] I do, but that button never works in Kubuntu, I used to enable wireless through the network manager. [12:58] pranavrc: have you used suspend ? [12:58] or supend to ram ? [12:58] suspend [12:58] anyone here experienced with packaging? there's no one alive on #ubuntu-packaging, and i have a question [12:59] tonymc: i know something but something is something = not atos [12:59] alots [13:00] well i just need some advice with versioning [13:00] i'm making a PPA, and the program is new so is not present in either Debian or Ubuntu repos [13:01] ok [13:01] so... [13:01] i've read launchpad help but it assumes that the user is making an update of existing package [13:01] mmm [13:01] so how do i version it? upstream version is 0.5.1, do i put it as 0.5.1-0ppa1 or what? [13:02] dput complains about orig.tar.gz not being "needed" so i assume i am doing it wrong [13:02] have you made the file control ? [13:02] i've made everything [13:03] i guess you have to upload the folder [13:03] lauchpad will compile and create the package [13:03] if you did everything well [13:04] it's there on the build queue right now [13:05] i guess the name is specified on the control file [13:05] i know the name is specified in the control, what i am asking is what is the proper way to actually assign a version number [13:05] so when you have written that you have done everything you need in oder to compile it on lauchpad [13:05] **^i guess**^ [13:06] i mean, should i name it 0.5.1-0ppa1, or 0.5.1-ppa1 or something else [13:06] the important thing is 0.5.1 [13:06] tonymc: maybe #ubuntu-motu could help? [13:06] maybe then you can add yournamerepository [13:06] ppa1 mean the first version of the package [13:08] i'll ask there thanks [13:08] tonymc: 6.0~b5+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [13:08] 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 [13:09] something like that [13:09] i think that's for packages already present in ubuntu repo, no? [13:10] or changed to ubuntu from debian [13:12] tonymc: look at this 0.8.0-0ubuntu0~sunab~lucid1 [13:12] that it was fo kdenlive ppa made by kdenlive team [13:13] what does sunab stand for? [13:13] tonymc: it's the name of the user [13:13] tonymc: https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release [13:24] what is this "New Activity" thing on the side of the desktop? [13:28] desktop seems to be as performant as the classic ubuntu desktop, even after turning off effects. disappointing :( [13:30] ThePub: in kde activities are a way of grouping tasks (atm they can hold different applciation, widgets and wallpapers) much like virtual desktop do except they can be stoped and started... also there are plans to extend their functionality to expose features to applcations [13:30] (so that they can react differently depending on what activity they are on) [13:36] strange. will have to find a way to turn that off. annoying with it sitting there. [13:37] now if I could just get the desktop to react like regular ubuntu (fast), would be a happy camper :) [13:41] no one forcing you to use activities, but the feature can't be turned off the same way you can't really turn off virtual desktops [13:42] but you can remove the widget ^^ [13:42] (and delete any extra activities) [13:42] ^^ try turning off nepomuks indexer and see if that helps with performance === booster_ is now known as Guest28587 === Guest28587 is now known as Peace-- [13:45] when I moved the bar to the top, next thing I knew there was an additional tab along the side of the desktop which says "New Activity". Not being a KDE user I have zero clue how it got there. Must have clicked something unintentionally, the desktop is performing really poorly in comparison to regular Ubuntu. [13:46] ThePub: your language , i mean the first one is english? [13:47] ThePub: http://www.youtube.com/user/gotbletu#p/search/3/RRJJ4tG4lFQ for activity [13:56] can anyone here think what could be causing my dbus-daemon to start using 99% cpu until killed? this happens almost once a week lately and until I kill it, no other programs will run === larsivi_ is now known as larsivi [14:35] Hiyas [14:44] Hi all [14:45] i have a small problem..my kubuntu has been upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. Update went fine. But i cant enable desktop effects [14:46] this message frequently : Desktop effects were too slow and have been suspended. [14:46] If this was only a temporary problem, you can resume using the 'Alt+Shift+F12' shortcut. [14:46] You can disable functionality checks in System Settings (on the Advanced tab in Desktop Effects). [14:46] venkata, which graphics cards ? [14:46] card rather [14:46] no proprietary [14:46] only Intel [14:47] how do i know graphics chipset details ? any command [14:47] lspci | grep video [14:48] no output [14:48] with the above command. command simply exists [14:48] lspci | grep VGA [14:49] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [14:50] so no recommended drivers in additonal drivers ? [14:50] that message i didnt get as part of upgrade [14:50] when 10.10 freshly installed earlier i didnt even get that [14:51] on 10.10 desktop effects were fine [14:52] where i can search in KDE for additional drivers info .. ? [14:52] thanks for replies [14:52] kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers [14:52] i found in Kmenu [14:52] thanks [14:53] it came with no proprietary drivers are used in system [14:53] and no recommended listed? [14:54] yes no recommendations [14:57] when effects enabled .. they are inforce for some time. after that disabling message popping out. [14:58] the desktop cube effect was smoother earlier .. now it is very slow. [14:59] venkata, look in your package manager for xserver-xorg-video-intel to see if it's installed [14:59] ok [14:59] thanks' [15:00] yes installed [15:12] hello BluesKaj sorry for interrution [15:12] any updates? [15:14] venkata, I see in the forums , some have been successful with the ' i915.modeset=0 ', workaround [15:17] All, am trying to decrease brightness for this laptop and am not able to find an option in system settings to do that? === ubuntu_user is now known as caffeine === caffeine is now known as caffeine74 [16:09] Boomboy, you should be able to find the System Settings > Power Management option. [16:09] under Performance there is a brightness option. [16:10] rbetzen, he left [16:11] Yea, saw that after the fact. [16:13] interesting that the option isn't in the display and monitor section , it would make more sense , even tho the power management is part of it's control [16:14] rbetzen, seems to me display is the first section that comes to mind [16:15] True. I checked there first myself. I had to look at the whole system settings and ask myself if anything else could lend itself to the task before I realized I needed to check into power management. [16:17] It would be interesting to have a bunch of people sit and do some tasks and see how often they have to hunt things down rather than just naturally go to the right option. [16:18] it's confusing to new users , i don't understand why these things are setup to be so arcane [16:19] BluesKaj: nvidia card and dual monitor [16:19] BluesKaj: do you know something ? [16:19] i have a user that has some problems [16:20] I'm thinking that brightness actually fits under both options. I'm not sure how to fix this one. Maybe put the brightness control under monitors and reworking PowerDevil to just make the brightness adjustments automatically depending on settings. [16:21] Peace--, sorry I have no experience with dual monitors [16:21] None here either, sorry. [16:22] òhola amigos [16:22] rbetzen, yes , one would think a simple hidden link would work [16:29] how do you reset/relaunch the sound server, sometime it just freeze then no more output sounds [16:30] AciD__, are you sure it isn't the player that's causing the problem ? [16:31] BluesKaj: perhaps it could be the cause of pulseaudio or whatever backend is outputing sounds, but now I'm trying to listen to sounds from different programs, same effect : nothing [16:31] i tried with clementine, juk, kaffeine, vlc.. [16:31] I'd hate to reboot for this :o [16:32] is there a service sound restart cmd I could use ? [16:32] I tried /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart but it tells me : PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions [16:35] AciD__, that means you have to at least logout and back in again to restart pulseaudio ...personally i don't use pulseaudio , alsamixer does the job on my setup [16:36] BluesKaj: I use the default kubuntu config, perhaps not even pusleaudio, though it's running "/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog" [16:38] AciD__, just look in system settings>multimedia>phonon [16:38] hum [16:39] just got the sound back after going to alsamixer and disabling auto-mute [16:39] check what audio playback device is in use [16:39] not sure why this changed something [16:39] BluesKaj: gstreamer, got only this backend [16:40] gstreamer is ok , but since vlc is my media player , I use the vlc phonon plugin [16:40] to be exact, I disabled auto-mute, then tried to output sounds with mpg123 [16:41] I didn't know there was a phonon backend for vlc [16:41] is it necessary, I mean, I use vlc with kde without problem [16:42] AciD__, are you on 10.10 ? [16:43] nop, 11.04 [16:43] with kde 4.6.2 [16:45] odd, alsamixer no longer shows automute here , kde 4.7 [16:46] I fail to see why kde 4.7 would delete it [16:46] or how [16:46] hi [16:47]