[06:13] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:22] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:25]  * nlsthzn_work waves
[06:26] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn_work 
[06:31] <nlsthzn_work> Alo 
[07:47] <nuvolari> :-/
[07:47] <nuvolari> o/ everyone
[07:50] <nuvolari> nothing worse than coming  home, about to feed the landlord's cats and discovered they left the poodle's excrete and urine for me to clean up (in the dining room)
[07:51]  * nuvolari feels a but out of touch with life
[07:51] <Kilos> eish
[07:51] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[07:52] <nlsthzn_work> So nuvolari is on poop duty... it happens...
[07:52] <Kilos> lol
[07:52] <superfly> nuvolari: faeces ;-)
[07:52] <superfly> nlsthzn_work: I don't think nuvolari is ready for real life... with dogs, cats and *children*
[07:52] <Kilos> lol
[07:53] <nlsthzn_work> I don't think anyone is really ever ready :)
[07:53] <superfly> I'll take cleaning up dog poo in the dining room over the midnight dirty nappy
[07:55]  * superfly heads out to go grocery shopping
[07:55] <nuvolari> hmm. I think it's different when it's your own pets/children
[07:57] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[07:57] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit met oom?
[07:57] <Kilos> goed dankie seun en daar
[07:58] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[07:58] <nuvolari> probeer die dag rustig vat
[07:58] <nuvolari> was 'n woeste week
[07:58] <Kilos> mooi
[07:58] <nuvolari> reënweer en koelerig
[07:58] <nuvolari> *bewolk
[07:58] <Kilos> ya winter nie lekker nie
[07:59] <nuvolari> ek geniet eintlik die weer oom
[07:59] <nuvolari> dis nie uitermatig nie
[07:59] <Kilos> reen in die somer in durbs is lekker
[07:59] <Kilos> ya dit ryp en vries nooit daar nie
[08:00] <nuvolari> behalwe die winter!
[08:00]  * nuvolari het amper gedooi
[08:00] <nuvolari> nie eers vrystaat koue nie :P
[08:00] <Kilos> lol en hoe langer jy daar bly hoe erger word dit om weer hier bo te kom bly
[09:54] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey gaan dit goed
[09:55] <nlsthzn_work> kbmonkey: read your latest blog entry... it made no sense to me... :p
[09:56] <Kilos> Maaz, kbmonkey .blog
[09:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[09:56] <Kilos> hmm
[09:56] <Kilos> nlsthzn, whats his blog addy
[09:57] <Kilos> i will tell maaz to member it
[09:57] <Kilos> one day i go look
[10:03] <kbmonkey> hey, ag ja it goes fine, my coordination is up to no good today :p
[10:04] <Kilos> huh?
[10:04] <Kilos> blink?
[10:04] <Kilos> hehe
[10:04] <kbmonkey> I was practicing poi glowstick (like fire spinning) and keep hitting my knuckles. ouch! he he :)
[10:04] <Kilos> you blog about your coords
[10:04] <Kilos> lol
[10:05] <Kilos> kbmonkey, whats your blog address
[10:05] <kbmonkey> Oh I post there for stuff I learn so sometimes it won't make sense to everybody ;)
[10:06] <kbmonkey> its darknet.co.za
[10:06] <Kilos> grrr
[10:06] <Kilos> with the http://
[10:06] <Kilos> or https
[10:06] <kbmonkey> should've take apie.co.za ne?
[10:07] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[10:07] <kbmonkey> well http is the usual
[10:07] <Kilos> yeah but linux peeps arent the usual
[10:08] <kbmonkey> if you type address in a browser it auto puts http for you every time :)
[10:08] <kbmonkey> so yes http://darknet.co.za the url
[10:09] <kbmonkey> i wonder if apie.co.za is available
[10:09] <Kilos> maaz kbmonkey.blog
[10:09] <Maaz> http://darknet.co.za
[10:14] <kbmonkey> sjoe maybe I should go back to bed ;)
[10:14] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <kbmonkey> woke early and did exercise. all worked out
[10:15] <Kilos> what exercise laddy
[10:16] <kbmonkey> a whole lot of them oom
[10:16] <kbmonkey> at the kung-fu school
[10:17] <kbmonkey> if not doing keyboard-fu that is!
[10:18] <Kilos> lol
[10:18] <Kilos> oh ja i forgot
[10:19] <kbmonkey> I got a nice little script that puts the weather on my desktop for me. Showers 21C
[10:24] <Kilos> lol
[10:25] <Kilos> where does it get it from
[10:25] <Kilos> from maaz
[10:28] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria
[10:28] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[10:28] <Kilos> lol
[10:28] <kbmonkey> no it gets it from the accuweather website
[10:28] <kbmonkey> lol
[10:28] <Kilos> we need the crash kid to tell maaz to look for pta weather in the right place
[10:28] <kbmonkey> remember how you download that web page yesterday? something like that, and it looks for the right text therein and bam! weather hacked
[10:29] <Kilos> or ask him rather
[10:29] <Kilos> wow that was so fast
[10:35] <inetpro> goeie middag
[10:36] <Kilos> dag inetpro 
[10:36] <kbmonkey> middag inetpro :)
[10:36] <inetpro> heh, hoe gaan dinge hier?
[10:36] <Kilos> goed dankie en daar
[10:36] <kbmonkey> good thanks
[10:37] <inetpro> hmm... 
[10:37] <inetpro> vanoggend al vroeg die buurman se honde heen en weer gejaag op my werf
[10:37] <Kilos> eish
[10:37] <nlsthzn_work> Seems lots of people having issues with dogs in ZA land today
[10:37] <inetpro> nou al die afgelope 3 weke gesukkel om elke dag gate toe te stop
[10:37] <Kilos> lol
[10:38] <Kilos> inetpro, koop n kat
[10:38] <Kilos> sterk ene
[10:38] <inetpro> en nou sien ek hom vanmore steeds in my werf maar geen gat in die draad nie
[10:38] <Kilos> soos n leeu of tier
[10:39] <Kilos> watse hond?
[10:39] <inetpro> Kilos: 3 groot boerboelle
[10:40] <Kilos> miskien spring die hond oor die draad
[10:40] <inetpro> yip, dis toe ek hom uiteindelik in 'n hoek druk dat ek sien wat hy maak
[10:41] <inetpro> kon dit nie glo hoe hoog die dig kan spring nie
[10:41] <inetpro> ding*
[10:41] <Kilos> hulle baie sterk honde
[10:41] <inetpro> die goed het groot skade gemaak so 3 weke terug
[10:41] <inetpro> 33 honders dood gebyt
[10:42] <Kilos> eish
[10:42] <inetpro> hoenders
[10:42] <Kilos> stuur n rekening
[10:42] <inetpro> ai
[10:42] <Kilos> as dit die baas se sak begin raak sal hy gou plan maak
[10:44] <Kilos> wat se die man eintlik?
[10:45] <Kilos> as hy redelik is dan kan julle n plan maak
[10:46] <inetpro> Kilos: ek het nog nie met hom gepraat nie
[10:46] <inetpro> dag as ek moeite doen en die gate almal toestop van my kant sal die probleem opgelos wees
[10:47] <inetpro> maar die goed is desperaat of iets
[10:48] <Kilos> as n boel nie mooi geleer is nie kan hulle baie skade aanrig
[10:48] <inetpro> hulle huis is 'n hele entjie van ons af en deesdae is almal mos so ingesluit dat jy nie eers met mekaar oor die draad kan gesels  nie
[10:48] <Kilos> het n paar gedooi oor skape byt net vir sports
[10:49] <Kilos> gaan sien hom en negotiate eers
[10:49] <inetpro> ek sal maar kyk hoe ek hom in die hande kan kry
[10:50] <inetpro> maar nou eers weer staasteater toe
[10:50] <inetpro> kinders tree op vaanaand
[10:50] <Kilos> dis goed
[10:50] <Kilos> geniet
[10:51] <inetpro> thanks
[10:55] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[10:55]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:55] <kbmonkey> oh no I don't think I can go without eating something for much longer :)
[10:56] <Kilos> ??
[10:56] <Kilos> you dietting
[10:56] <kbmonkey> nee oom
[10:56] <Kilos> nou eet dan man
[10:56] <kbmonkey> just been busy busy ;)
[10:56] <Kilos> lol
[10:56] <kbmonkey> okay!
[10:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:59] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:59] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:04] <nuvolari> o/ naand almal
[17:04] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:04] <nuvolari> hi oom! 
[17:05] <nuvolari> sjoe, dis koel vanaand :O
[17:05] <nuvolari> en dis nat
[17:05] <Kilos> baie koud hier nou ook
[17:05] <nuvolari> oe, koffie
[17:05] <nuvolari> oom moet maar die kaggel inspan
[17:05] <Kilos> lol
[17:05] <Kilos> bad en bed beter
[17:08] <nuvolari> ja oom, maar dan moet 'n mens slaap
[17:08] <nuvolari> as die kaggel werk kan oom nog bietjie hierso kuier :P
[17:13] <nuvolari> lol... re. USA's problem: "Dude where is all the money? Oh, we spent it on iTunes and iPads."
[17:13] <Kilos> lol
[17:29] <nlsthzn> Problem is USA's problems becomes everyones problems :/
[17:30] <nuvolari> ya :-/
[17:31] <nlsthzn> Disk almost burnt... time for me to try out Frugalware properly... 
[17:32] <nlsthzn> here I played with it in VBox... my lappy suffered with Unity and Gnome 3 (shell) at the same time :p - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znKHMJkeEw
[17:40] <Kilos> lol you enjoy playing aroung nlsthzn 
[17:40] <Kilos> you want work, figure out how to make my pidgin work to blackberry's bbm
[17:40] <Kilos> without me first registering a bb
[17:41] <nuvolari> whokom bb oom?
[17:41] <nuvolari> Kilos: ^^
[17:42] <Kilos> my boet en skoonsus en hulle kinders sit op bbm hele tyd en kom min mxit to
[17:52] <nuvolari> ah :-/
[17:53] <nuvolari> oom moet hulle op gmail kry
[17:53] <nuvolari> :P
[17:53] <nuvolari> dan kan hulle gtalk gebruik
[17:53] <Kilos> hulle like van bb
[17:53] <Kilos> en dis te veel werk om ander goed op die foon te kry
[17:58] <superfly> Kilos: you can't make anything talk BBM other than a BlackBerry
[17:58] <Kilos> yeah superfly but worth a try
[17:59] <Kilos> maybe someone hacks one one day
[17:59] <superfly> it's their proprietary messaging system which uses their own servers and a hardware ID linked to the physical phone
[17:59] <Kilos> yeah actually quite good
[18:18] <Kilos> sleep tight everyone
[18:18] <Kilos> see ya morrow time
[19:02] <nuvolari> Maaz: convert USD0.05 to ZAR
[19:02] <Maaz> nuvolari: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'USD0.0'
[19:02] <nuvolari> Maaz: convert USD 0.05 to ZAR
[19:02] <Maaz> nuvolari: USD 0.05 = 0.34722222 ZAR
[19:03] <nuvolari> Maaz: convert USD 0.17 to ZAR
[19:03] <Maaz> nuvolari: USD 0.17 = 1.1805556 ZAR
[19:30] <nlsthzn> alo... any geeks patrolling tonight?
[19:36] <nuvolari> o/
[19:36] <nuvolari> lo nlsthzn 
[19:36] <nuvolari> i'm just around
[19:36] <nuvolari> nothing serious :P
[19:36] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: hey... 
[19:36] <nlsthzn> Maybe you have a clue...
[19:37] <nlsthzn> gnome,from the login screen I get graphical glitch... looks like many desktops overlapping, fonts fuzzy... can't read anything... any idea what could cause something like this
[19:37] <nlsthzn> ?
[19:37] <nlsthzn> Can't get a tty's
[19:38] <nlsthzn> only get black screens when I switch
[19:39] <nuvolari> :o
[19:39] <nuvolari> sounds bad
[19:40] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: did it happen after an upgrade?
[19:40] <nlsthzn> fresh install (but I have to confes it isn't Ubuntu :/)
[19:40] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: the only thing I can think of is that your Xorg config got messed up
[19:40] <nuvolari> ah
[19:40] <nuvolari> which distro?
[19:40] <nlsthzn> Frugalware
[19:41]  * nuvolari se tong sleep
[19:41] <nuvolari> eh?
[19:41] <nuvolari> whats that?
[19:41] <nlsthzn> Was able to get it working easily in VBox...
[19:41] <nlsthzn> www.frugalware.org
[19:42] <nuvolari> ooh
[19:42] <nuvolari> looks pretty
[19:43] <nuvolari> :D
[19:43] <nuvolari> anyway,
[19:43] <nlsthzn> :) Yup, it does look nice... when you can see it properly...
[19:44] <nlsthzn> I can't even get the kernel option text to bypass gdm ...
[19:44] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: to get back to the point. I had a similar experience a while ago where gnome got messed up, so I deleted my .cache and .config folder... which was a bit painful since I lost a lot of tweaked settings)
[19:45] <nuvolari> but if you say it's a fresh install... i'm afraid I don't have any other quick-fix
[19:45] <nuvolari> definitely sounds like a borked default xorg config
[19:46] <nlsthzn> hmmm... so I should be able to do that... without really being able to see the terminal :p
[19:46] <nlsthzn> they are under ~/my name right?
[19:46] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: frugalware seems nice!
[19:47] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: ya, ~/.config
[19:47] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: I think I just emptied them, not removed the actual folders
[19:47] <nlsthzn> oh yes...
[19:47] <nlsthzn> hmmm... so I shouldnt rm -r .cache
[19:47] <nlsthzn> ?
[19:47] <nuvolari> well, try
[19:48] <nuvolari> rm -rf ~/.cache/*
[19:48] <nuvolari> and config
[19:49] <nuvolari> ~/.config/*
[19:49] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: hmm, but this is even before you log in eh?
[19:49] <nlsthzn> yup
[19:49] <nlsthzn> this is from the log in manager
[19:49] <nuvolari> which by removing those, I don't think will solve anything
[19:49] <nlsthzn> and I can't get a tty, they are all black screens
[19:50] <nlsthzn> nope, that didn't do anything
[19:50] <nuvolari> :-/ not having a tty is a big fail
[19:50] <nuvolari> it's like having your throat removed
[19:50] <nlsthzn> yup... and i am unable to get gdm not to log into gui automatically
[19:50] <nlsthzn> nothing i send the kernel seems to work :p
[19:51] <nuvolari> hmm. for now... retreat to something like Arch :P
[19:51] <nuvolari> or try freeBSD :P
[19:51] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:52] <nuvolari> in fact, try anything that *do* have a terminal to tinker with :P (besides window's cmd) 
[19:52] <nuvolari> hehe, sorry nlsthzn, I'm not much of help tonight
[19:52] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: thanks for trying... it is appreciated
[19:52] <nlsthzn> I will do what the windows user in me is screaming for...
[19:53] <nlsthzn> re-install :p
[19:55] <nuvolari> lol
[19:55] <nuvolari> well, sometimes it works
[19:56] <nuvolari> do you have install options? like enabling/disabling stuff?
[19:56] <nlsthzn> I can choose packages...
[19:56] <nlsthzn> but it is a minimum install... which worked...
[19:56] <nlsthzn> then I installed gnome ... this is when the sports started |:p
[19:58] <nlsthzn> will again install gnome 3, but edit so it doesn't start gui from boot...
[20:13] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znKHMJkeEw for a look at Frugalware
[20:19] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: maybe try openbox first
[20:19] <nuvolari> then if it works, move up to gnome
[20:19]  * nuvolari checks video
[20:19] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: hehe... ok :)
[20:22] <nuvolari> the guy singing in the video has throat issues. needs a strepsil
[20:22] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: :p I will be sure to pass the message on to Jono
[20:23] <nuvolari> lol
[20:23] <nuvolari> which one is Jono's voice?
[20:25] <nuvolari> I don't like music where the singer's voice sounds like 50-grain sandpaper rubbed against a wall
[20:25] <nuvolari> so hopefully his voice is the 2nd voice :P
[20:26] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: he does all vocals...
[20:26] <nlsthzn> lots of videos of Severed Fifth on youtube... :)
[20:26] <nlsthzn> me likes 'em
[20:26] <nlsthzn> oh, and Frugalware looks good out of the box (when it works)
[20:30] <nuvolari> :P "Severed (fif)th[roat]"
[20:30] <nuvolari> ok, I'll stop
[20:31] <nuvolari> good thing that tastes differ
[20:32] <nuvolari> calling it a day
[20:32] <nuvolari> i'm out
[20:33] <nuvolari> good luck with your setup nlsthzn 
[20:33] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: thanks, and night
[20:48] <nlsthzn> maaz tell nuvolari just added nomodeset to get it to work :D
[20:48] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Sure, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode
[22:10] <superfly> fp
[22:14] <nlsthzn> ?