[00:00] <coz_> Thaumx,  mm I am not familiar with this ,, hold on
[00:00] <Thaumx> thanks coz
[00:03] <coz_> Thaumx,  my search so far has many who apparenlty are having similar issues with this
[00:04] <coz_> Thaumx,   out of curiosity,,,  do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:04] <Thaumx> thanks coz, I've been googling different variations for the last day, can't seem to find a fix.
[00:04] <coz_> Thaumx,  one thing you could do is disable that in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:05] <cmanns> imma try ppa-purge
[00:05] <coz_> Thaumx,  rather disable that PPA
[00:05] <GTAXL> The page just shows up black. :/
[00:05] <coz_> Tharlinn,  some are reporting that the purchase has taken up to 7 hours  for some applications
[00:05] <cmanns> well i didnt enable it
[00:05] <cmanns> all i know is fresh installs giving me cannto load session ubuntu
[00:05] <\u03b5> hello, is there a more or less documented way to manually install ubuntu?
[00:06] <Thaumx> sorry, I'm very new to ubuntu, not familiar with PPA. I am running that command you sent now. it's stuck on the two purchased apps now til it times out and continues
[00:06] <bazhang> \u03b5, manually?
[00:06] <\u03b5> bazhang: partition manager is not letting us do what we want, it insists on formatting a partition we already formatted
[00:07] <\u03b5> and it fails upon doing so
[00:07] <bazhang> \u03b5, the alternate cd gives tons more control, if you are using the live cd method
[00:08] <bazhang> \u03b5, text based (ncurses) install only
[00:08] <coz_> Thaumx,  ok,,,  well if you opena terminal    sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and see if that PPA  is listed,, if so ,, in front of it  put   #  and save the file then rerun  the apt-get update
[00:08] <coz_> Thaumx,   be right back,,nature call
[00:08] <jjb123> Does anyone see anything wrong with this CRON tab? http://paste.ubuntu.com/659623/ I'd doesn't seem to be working and I don't know how to debug it.
[00:09] <Thaumx> coz_ I'll try that command now, here's the output from the others http://paste.ubuntu.com/659622/
[00:13] <almoxarife> what is the terminal command to see what open files a process has?
[00:13] <Pelo> luis mendez
[00:13] <almoxarife> luis seems like an odd command
[00:14] <Thaumx> ok coz, I opened that file, but I'm not sure what PPA is to disable/etc. here's what it looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/659624/
[00:14] <GTAXL> Hello?
[00:18] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, What's up?
[00:19] <GTAXL> I can't seem to get things involving flash or "swf files" to work on Ubuntu apache2.
[00:19] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, Well, apache 2 is how old now?
[00:19] <bazhang> GTAXL, to do what?
[00:19] <GTAXL> Such things like jwplayer, speedtest mini, and lightIRC aren't appearing in my Google Chrome.
[00:19] <GTAXL> I just see a blank page. :/
[00:19] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, Then it may not be apache.
[00:20] <GTAXL> Flash works just fine in my Chrome tho.
[00:20] <GTAXL> Apache version 2.2.17
[00:20] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, Apache is an HTTP server. Not a web browser.
[00:20] <GTAXL> I know.
[00:20] <bazhang> GTAXL, why mention it then
[00:20] <GTAXL> But flash doesn't seem to work. :/
[00:21] <cmanns> ah got ubuntu going slowly but steady
[00:21] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, And, if you want a whole page to load an SWF, check the code for the page, and make sure it's referencing the right information. And, This is Ubuntu supprt, not Apache.
[00:21] <cmanns> Only issue now is whenever I click certain progs in xfce it brings up a dialog for pass and its not my user/sudo pass :|
[00:21] <GTAXL> It deals with ubuntu. :p
[00:22] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, No, it deals with apache. Because I bet you fifty dollars that it's apache/your page and not Ubuntu.
[00:22] <cmanns> have you clared chromes cache
[00:22] <GTAXL> I'm going to try on my Firefox right now. :p
[00:23] <GTAXL> It happend to me on my vps too. :/
[00:23] <OmegaForte> GTAXL, /j #httpd
[00:23] <Thaumx> coz_, I can't seem to find anything in the sources.list related to the purchased software. nothing using https, either
[00:24] <coz_> Thaumx,   ok then I am puzzled,,, as I said I have not attempted to purchase anything so far,, it  may be a bug,,,  I would go ahead and try to report this on launchpad  for ubuntu 11.04
[00:25] <Thaumx> coz_, yeah, that seems to be the only thing to do. I have no idea what could be causing the issue :(
[00:26] <coz_> Thaumx,   understood,,, I cant think of a solution at all,, unless someone here is more familiar with it than I am
[00:26] <Ainslee> hi, i'm trying to get kvm going by using the ubuntu wiki, it's telling me in networking to edit the compatability.conf file, but the line that it says to edit, isn't in the file, do i just insert it? (new to ubuntu etc)
[00:26] <Thaumx> coz_, did you look at the file yourself? I'm really new, so I may be missing something. http://paste.ubuntu.com/659624/
[00:27] <clausen> when I boot the Live CD in rescue mode, the "Resume Normal Boot" option doesn
[00:27] <clausen> doesn't work
[00:27] <coz_> Tharlinn,   it may be lines  52 and 53 on the list you showed me
[00:28] <coz_> Tharlinn, sorry
[00:28] <coz_> Thaumx,   lines  52 and 53
[00:28] <clausen> any suggestions on how to debug this?
[00:28] <coz_> Thaumx,   I believe it may be the  natty partner repos but not sure
[00:29] <coz_> Thaumx,   oh wait,, perhaps the last two on that page
[00:29] <coz_> Thaumx,   lines  57 and 58
[00:29] <Thaumx> coz_, ok, I'll try 57 and 58.
[00:29] <coz_> Thaumx,  yeah,, just put  #  in front ,,save file,,, then do update
[00:30] <Thaumx> coz_, doing it, brb
[00:30] <coz_> Thaumx,  you can always reneable them later
[00:33] <Thaumx> coz_, well this time it paused at 93% instead of 94, while trying to connect. didn't work though.
[00:33] <lolwut> When using "apt-get install" what does the up carrot after a package indicate? ex: sudo apt-get install lamp-server&^   I understand that is installing the the required packages for a lamp server but haven't found documentation on how that works
[00:33] <coz_> Thaumx,   then try the other 2 lines for the partner repos
[00:34] <lolwut> lamp-server^ **
[00:34] <Thaumx> coz_, trying now
[00:37] <boywonder> hi i was here earlier i know this is a bit off topic, i have a mounted network drive but it points to a folder in the drive,is this usual or can i point it to the drive where there is 7 shares?
[00:37] <Thaumx> coz_, seems to have the same problem. I wonder if I'm missing something in there?
[00:37] <clausen> does anyone know which component of Ubuntu parses the LiveCD boot command "netcfg/disable_dhcp=true"?
[00:38] <coz_> Thaumx,   mm I dont think that is the issue,, somehow it is trying to find the  link for that particular piece of software,, could be that PPA is down
[00:38] <coz_> Thaumx,   try a reboot,, and then try the update,,  see if it gets rid of wanting to attempt to download that software,, or find the main site for that software and contact the developer about it
[00:39] <cmanns> So I got the nvidia drivers installed, blank screen after boots. How can I single user?
[00:39] <Thaumx> coz_, I tried that, they contacted the software people, and said the server is up. it's just not authenticating or something
[00:39] <coz_> Thaumx,  ooooo thats not good news
[00:40] <coz_> Thaumx,   then I am completely stuck,, create the bug report,, see what solutions they come up with
[00:40] <alexThunder> Thaumx: what's your problem?
[00:40] <Thaumx> I can't connect to the PPA that serves out purchased software
[00:41] <Thaumx> https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/
[00:41] <Thaumx> what's funny about it, is that it doesn't work on either of my computers. both had ubuntu installed only last week
[00:42] <Thaumx> coz_, thanks for your help. I'll try a bug report :)
[00:42] <szal> Thaumx: afaics, the PPA is empty
[00:42] <coz_> Thaumx,  sorry I couldnt solve this one for you
[00:43] <Thaumx> szal, the ppa is empty?
[00:44] <Thaumx> szal, https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/bcs/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages   https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/beep/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:46] <szal> Thaumx: ok, those both require credentials
[00:46] <Thaumx> szal, yeah... I don't know what the issue is. I bought the software from the software center... but it won't let me download it (software center or via apt-get)
[00:47] <Thaumx> szal, they say the server is up and working... so it seems to be something on my end... but I have no idea what it could be
[00:49] <serpen64> re.^^
[00:49] <serpen64> erf :S! ca fonctionne toujours pas. :(
[00:49] <serpen64> oops
[00:49] <serpen64> sorry wrong channel xD
[00:49] <serpen64> fail
[00:49] <FloodBot1> serpen64: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <szal> lol
[00:50] <Thaumx> szal, both the items show up as purchased in the software center... they just never "update cache" when installing there
[00:52] <szal> Thaumx: my guess (I never bought something there) is that you need a way to enter the credentials they provided for you; so either they have sent you instructions on how to do that, or you should ask
[00:52] <alexThunder> no that's not necessary
[00:53] <alexThunder> Thaumx: what does apt-get update say?
[00:53] <lapaga> Thaumx: wonder if the word uploaders means anything?
[00:54] <Thaumx> here's the apt-get update   http://paste.ubuntu.com/659642/
[00:54] <Thaumx> brb, call of nature
[00:57] <lapaga> commercial-ppa-uploaders  almost sounds like a place for companies or people to upload their software
[01:00] <Thaumx> lapaga, I'm not sure. none of that information is visible from the software center, only apt-get update. I've tried two purchases, so it seems unlikely that it's a problem with  a single item
[01:01] <qin> Can someone tell me how it not restart after upgrade?
[01:01] <coz_> Thaumx,   go purchase world of goo   ,, cool game about $10,,, worth the money,, but purchase it on their site  :)
[01:01] <Thaumx> plus john at canonical says the server is working and he was able to DL fine.
[01:01] <coz_> ooo
[01:02] <alexThunder> when did u purchase it?
[01:02] <coz_> Thaumx,  see thats the puzzled isnt it?
[01:02] <Thaumx> coz, I had world of goo for windows, loved it!
[01:02] <coz_> Thaumx,   :)
[01:02] <thegoodcushion> emw
[01:02] <Thaumx> alexThunder, I purchased it wednesday
[01:02] <Thaumx> alexthunder, I purchased beep today as a test
[01:03] <coz_> night all
[01:03] <alexThunder> the purchase from wednesday didn't work as well?
[01:03] <Thaumx> nope
[01:03] <alexThunder> mh, i heard, that some purchases need some time, but that should be too long
[01:04] <Imsoniacnerd> hi there, i am having a funny issue with my ubuntu 10.4 server. i have sugarcrm running on apache and after the update when i go to the web address from my browser on a windows ssystem it just asks me to save or open application/x-httpd-php. i have also had this same issue withe rother php sites on ym server after update. any way to fix it?
[01:05] <Thaumx> yeah, I heard that too... so I figured it should work by now. it always gets stuck on this "Updating Cache" item in ubuntu software center. eventually  i get "Failed to download repository information" and "check your internet connection"
[01:06] <Imsoniacnerd> sorry meant to mention i did a system update lastnight on ubunutu and updated all packages
[01:06] <Imsoniacnerd> words of wisdome appreciated
[01:06] <newbie_needhelp> hmm, where should i look for help when my ubuntu partition is toast?  i can still read files off it using testdisk but it doesn't mount
[01:07] <cmanns> what should I do about nvidia drivers
[01:08] <cmanns> So far I pout nvidia to nv in the config and it just stopped at the boot text no error
[01:09] <osmosis> whats the command to run to retreive the encrypted home key ?
[01:09] <TonyFisher> Hello...
[01:10] <Thaumx> maybe it is this bug? Bug #647212    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/647212
[01:10] <TonyFisher> Hello.
[01:10] <TonyFisher> I am trying to copy all of my .jpeg pictures into a directory called jpegs on linux
[01:10] <infobit> TonyFisher, hello
[01:10] <RenatoSilva> if I'm using alsa why do pulse crap keeps popping up in /tmp and ~?
[01:10] <TonyFisher> Here is the code I am trying to use to do this:
[01:10] <TonyFisher> cp *.jpeg >> jpegs
[01:10] <th0r> RenatoSilva: a leak in the raw sewer line?
[01:11] <TonyFisher> I am trying to make a copy of all the jpegs in the directory and move htem into the sub directory jpegs
[01:11] <TonyFisher> any ideas on how I can fix this code?
[01:11] <RenatoSilva> th0r: raw sewer line??????
[01:11] <infobit> TonyFisher, specify propery dir structure
[01:11] <th0r> RenatoSilva: crap?
[01:11] <RenatoSilva> th0r: you mean ubuntu?
[01:11] <KE1HA> you want cp ./*.jpeg /jpegs  what your doing is trying to append all the .jpg files to one file calle jpegs by using >>
[01:12] <bastidrazor> TonyFisher: cp *.jpeg jpegs will do the trick..
[01:12] <RenatoSilva> th0r: or rather, non-LTSes?
[01:12] <tainted> what's the best way to connect to an ubuntu desktop session in progress?
[01:12] <KM0201> tainted: depends, do you just want shell access, or do you want to "see" the desktop?
[01:12] <th0r> KE1HA: I think it should be cp ./*.jpeg ./jpegs you missed a dot
[01:12] <tainted> KM0201 see
[01:13] <KM0201> tainted: it depends on how secure you need the connection
[01:13] <KM0201> !vnc > tainted
[01:13] <KE1HA> true, assuming /jpegs is in the resident directory
[01:13] <TonyFisher> bastidrazor, is there an equivilant of the or operator in bash script so I can specify more than one extension
[01:14] <TonyFisher> like cp *.jpeg | pngs  jpegs
[01:14] <bastidrazor> TonyFisher: just add it to the line.. cp *.jpg *.pngs morefilesnames jpegs
[01:14] <TonyFisher> Thanks.
[01:15] <cmanns> After putting propritary nvidia driver and removing nvidia to nv and such, it stops after checking battery state [ok]
[01:16] <qin> !info ksplice
[01:20] <cmanns> So I have an old GForce2 or gforce 4 not sure atm it's one of the two, what nvidia drivers shall I try
[01:20] <cmanns> tried nvidia-96
[01:20] <starkittn> hi
[01:21] <starkittn> sorry I've been lurking!
[01:21] <starkittn> didn't realize it logged me in!
[01:21] <starkittn> have had wireless issues today
[01:21] <edbian> starkittn: lurking is ok
[01:23] <cmanns> It's a GEforce 4 420 GO
[01:24] <mrNotYou> hey
[01:25] <cmanns> is nvidia-96 legacy?
[01:26] <OmegaForte> cmanns, Very.
[01:26] <cmanns> Should I try newer with gf4 go?
[01:26] <OmegaForte> cmanns, I don't know if your device is recieving support still. But yeah, latest is 240.41?
[01:27] <OmegaForte> cmanns, Actually it's 270.41.06
[01:27] <cmanns> Should I try nvidia-current, 185 gkx or 173
[01:27] <cmanns> glx*
[01:29] <galamar> Hello I am having a horrible time getting tvtime running on ubuntu 10.04 with a hauppauge pvr-150. terminal returns:"videoinput: Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument Segmentation fault" does anyone know a solution to this problem? I have looked online, all I can find is people talking about the same issue, but no solution is available that resolves this error on my box............. Also I have had No luck finding an IR
[01:29] <galamar> C room directly for tvtime (with live users). So I was just hoping that someone here could help me.
[01:31] <ironm> hi galamar .. do you really waste a lot of your time watching TV?
[01:32] <induz> on Ubuntu i use ThunderBird as email client...its crashing after opening it up...how can i correct the problem
[01:33] <ironm> induz, check if you have the last version of the software
[01:33] <induz> how can i do that ironm
[01:35] <Andy80> induz: dpkg -l thunderbird
[01:35] <ironm> induz, apt-get update; apt-cache policy thunderbird
[01:36] <induz> thunderbird    5.0+build1+nob Email,
[01:36] <ironm> induz, apt-get update; apt-cache policy thunderbird
[01:36] <w30> induz, a good tip is to open a terminal and run the executable in the terminal and watch the terminal for error output
[01:37] <induz> ironm, it says;ould not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[01:37] <induz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:37] <cmanns> trying nvidia-185-glx
[01:37] <Andy80> induz: 5.0 ?! I've 3.x available... on Natty
[01:37] <starkittn> thanks edbian
[01:37] <spencerbook> hello i need some help with xinput
[01:37] <induz> I have 10,4
[01:37] <spencerbook> i have an i8042 synaptics trackpad
[01:37]  * starkittn is hoping for lurker osmosis to occur
[01:37] <wide_awake> hello.  can anyone tell me how to connect to an IRC server that's not in the list using XChat?
[01:38] <spencerbook> and it stopped working after suspend
[01:38] <osmosis> stamina, hi
[01:38] <spencerbook> i need to get it back
[01:38] <spencerbook> your help is appreciated
[01:38] <starkittn> osmosis: oops didn't mean you
[01:38] <ironm> induz, you have to be root .. or just use "sudo ... "
[01:38] <propman_> induz:   if you have package or software manager open, close it before running the terminal commands
[01:38] <spencerbook> can anybody provide tech support?
[01:39] <starkittn> this place is crazy... no offense meant
[01:39] <edbian> starkittn: CrAzY!?!
[01:39] <starkittn> I think I need to go somewhere where there aren't so many join/quits
[01:39] <ironm> spencerbook, sure . the question of the salary ;)
[01:39] <wide_awake> starkittn, hide 'em
[01:39] <starkittn> might pop back here later
[01:39] <TonyFisher> In my filesystem I have several directories that have spaces in them
[01:39] <starkittn> byeee
[01:39] <TonyFisher> like Azureus Downloads and Ubuntu One for example
[01:39] <starkittn> have a good night!
[01:39] <spencerbook> umm i have a minecraft gift code
[01:39] <propman_> wide_awake: XChat .> network list and then add
[01:39] <spencerbook> as a salary
[01:40] <TonyFisher> The problem is because they have spaces in them I cant cd them from command line and I cant delete them
[01:40] <TonyFisher> How can I delete /access directories with spaces in their name
[01:40] <spencerbook> ironm i have a minecraft giftcode as a salary
[01:40] <wide_awake> propman_, thanks
[01:40] <induz> Ok now its updated thanks...but let me check is it still crashes
[01:40] <spencerbook> TonyFisher, you mean in the command line?
[01:40] <spencerbook> ironm can you help me please?
[01:40] <TonyFisher> spencerbook, yes.
[01:40] <propman_> spencerbook:   please stop spamming.  read the rules for this channel
[01:41] <ironm> spencerbook, I don't know what "minecraft giftcode" is ..
[01:41] <ironm> what is your question spencerbook ?
[01:41] <spencerbook> propman_ sorry, where are the rules?
[01:41] <spencerbook> ironm well i need to know how to get my trackpad working. it stopped working after a suspend
[01:41] <ironm> spencerbook, you have to ask
[01:41] <osmosis> how can I get Intel HD GT2 graphics working on ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  Right now it just looks like vesa.
[01:41] <spencerbook> TonyFisher try %20 it works in urls
[01:42] <spencerbook> ironm what do you mean, i have to ask?
[01:42] <spencerbook> osmosis, try getting a driver
[01:42] <spencerbook> osmosis, go to additional drivers
[01:42] <w30> TonyFisher, on the command line Trash Folder would be Trash\ Folder. the backword slash means treat the space as a text space and not a separater between commands.
[01:42] <osmosis> spencerbook, where is that?
[01:42] <chili555> TonyFisher, try cd Azeurus\ Downloads
[01:42] <ironm> spencerbook, not spaming the channel but just asking your questions
[01:43] <spencerbook> ironm, do you have aim where you could help me so i don't annoy this channel?
[01:43] <osmosis> has 11.04 stablized enough yet? maybe I should just install that to get my drivers.
[01:44] <ironm> spencerbook, I don't have any experience with trackpad *sorry*
[01:44] <w30> Tony tab will also complete the name also
[01:44] <osmosis> nah...ill stay with 10.04 LTS...so i dont have to constantly install updates
[01:44] <TonyFisher> Thanks w30 and chili555 :)
[01:44] <spencerbook> ironm, that's okay thanks anyways
[01:45] <spencerbook> can someone tell me where im able to read the rules? im new to irc and ubuntu
[01:45] <ironm> spencerbook, you are welcome ;)
[01:45] <spencerbook> ironm :)
[01:46] <spencerbook> where is rms
[01:46] <TonyFisher> spencerbook, are you using an IRC client or are you logging in via the web
[01:46] <spencerbook> im on webchat.freenode.net so inbrowser client. couldnt get empathy to work so i guess via the web
[01:46] <potatoe> I am using encrypted home folder as was offered by the ubuntu installer, what encryption scheme is being used on my home folder ?
[01:47] <spencerbook> oops forgot to tag you, TonyFisher. look for my above post
[01:47] <ironm> spencerbook, I would recommend you to use icedove
[01:47] <TonyFisher> spencerbook, from your hostmask it shows you are logging in via web. I would suggest you get an IRC client since you are new to IRC.
[01:47] <spencerbook> okay thanks ironm and TonyFisher. irc is not why im here though. i need help with xinput/trackpad
[01:47] <rypervenche> spencerbook: xchat is a good IRC client.
[01:47] <jwiggins> XChat is fairly easy to use and is available through the "Software Center"
[01:48] <jwiggins> that response just happened to come right after rypervenche... I'm not a bot :)
[01:48] <ironm> I use xchat too .. one of best IRC-clients I have ever used
[01:49] <TonyFisher> Sorry spencerbook  :/ my bad
[01:49] <jwiggins> Use to use bitchx but xchat has that bitchx + mIRC feel :)
[01:49] <potatoe> aes 128 ?
[01:49] <spencerbook> TonyFisher, or anyone, where do i go for support/help?
[01:50] <TonyFisher> spencerbook, if Ubuntu is your OS you're in the right place, but you might also like to try #linux
[01:51] <spencerbook> okay well i need tech support, so what should i do?
[01:52] <italoxp> spencerbook, ask somebody
[01:52] <akavir> type away, we are listening
[01:52] <obert> grrr my clock is still bad.
[01:52] <osmosis> i need a doc for install Intel HD GT2  graphics card drivers on ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[01:53] <italoxp> osmosis, tried opening Additional Drivers?
[01:53] <osmosis> italoxp, where?
[01:53] <galamar> ironm, no but the card has multiple other features that I want to use.
[01:53] <italoxp> Are you on Unity?
[01:53] <osmosis> italoxp, you mean "Hardware Drivers" ?
[01:53] <spencerbook> osmosis on unity just search it
[01:53] <osmosis> italoxp, ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[01:53] <italoxp> Maybe, I dunno whats there
[01:53] <obert> and i got UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS
[01:53] <spencerbook> osmosis on gnome go to system > administration > additional drivers
[01:54] <italoxp> osmosis, should be this one
[01:54] <ironm> interesting galamar  .. what features e.g. ?
[01:54] <osmosis> there is nothing called  additional drivers there
[01:54] <italoxp> osmosis, go on Hardware drivers
[01:54] <osmosis> italoxp, okay...went there. Got my wifi drivers. No video though.
[01:54] <italoxp> So, no idea.
[01:54] <spencerbook> reinstall / update fglrx
[01:55] <italoxp> fglrx?
[01:55] <italoxp> He's using Intel!
[01:55] <italoxp> fglrx is ATI
[01:55] <alexThunder> amd :D
[01:55] <spencerbook> italoxp nvm then
[01:55] <italoxp> ATI, AMD, you got it
[01:55] <spencerbook> anybody know anything about synaptics pointing devices?
[01:56] <RenaKunisaki> is there something I need to do to make changes in hosts.allow take effect?
[01:56] <italoxp> Well, they are nice. I use one. Use drivers on xf86-input-synpatics package.
[01:56] <galamar> ironm, like hooking up my ps2 or other things and using the capture options. or record other things that I can input through it. like an old vhs my sister has of my dad so I can make a dvd of it.
[01:56] <italoxp> RenaKunisaki, restart, maybe?
[01:56] <RenaKunisaki> besides rebooting? >.>
[01:56] <italoxp> Really don't know.
[01:57] <italoxp> What's wrong with rebooting?
[01:57] <jenkinSear> RenaKunisaki: What service are you allowing? Ssh?
[01:57] <rypervenche> italoxp: Linux users don't understand what it means, lol.
[01:57] <RenaKunisaki> nfs
[01:57] <RenaKunisaki> prefer not to have to interrupt everything else
[01:58] <osmosis> may ill just install 11.04
[01:59] <spencerbook> this is not helpful
[01:59] <galamar> ironm, also the card has a fm tuner I would like to use, and eventually maybe the remote features.
[02:00] <jenkinSear> RenaKunisaki: I'd do something like sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[02:00] <ironm> galamar, it sounds good
[02:01] <italoxp> rypervenche, depending of what you're talking about, it's the easiest solution. Or the fastest.
[02:01] <galamar> ironm, any help or just curiosities?
[02:01] <RenaKunisaki> nope still not working
[02:02] <RenaKunisaki> I have in hosts.allow: nfsd:rei, yuki
[02:02] <RenaKunisaki> but yuki is being denied access
[02:02] <RenaKunisaki> tried without the comma too
[02:02] <jenkinSear> Maybe check /var/log/secure , see what's complaining?
[02:03] <spencerbook> help plox with trackpad. it stopped working after a suspend on acer aspire one.
[02:03] <RenaKunisaki> no such file, nothing in auth.log
[02:03] <ironm> galamar, sorry .. I don't know this software
[02:05] <galamar> ironm, what is the error mean by "Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument - Segmentation fault"?
[02:05] <buttons> does anyone know what compression level tar -zcvf uses? I looked in the man page and nothing was said about it
[02:05] <escott> buttons, whatever the default for gzip would be. if you want to control it gzip it after tarring
[02:06] <WinCamXP> i just watched some Windows 8 preview thing....IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP
[02:06] <WinCamXP> if they actually do that, I'm getting a network card that supports Ubuntu and using that, which is really what I should do now
[02:07] <rypervenche> italoxp: It was a joke :P
[02:07] <buttons> thanks
[02:07] <ironm> galamar, you should check if there is a newer version of the software
[02:08] <ironm> galamar, sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy name_of_the_package
[02:08] <WinCamXP> has anybody ever gotten Steam working on Linux? Ever?
[02:08] <WinCamXP> through Wine, of course
[02:09] <WinCamXP> hmmm, just found an interesting vid..........hmmmmm
[02:09] <WinCamXP> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxwnk33gxm0
[02:10] <escott> WinCamXP, not likely to get steam working under wine (but feel free to check winehq) there are occasional (usually unfounded) rumors of steam for linux. please try to keep your comments/questions to one line
[02:11] <WinCamXP> hmmm, there seems to be some h4x bash scripts and stuff that get it working, but those probably break with updates
[02:11] <akavir> Steam works ok for me in mint 11
[02:11] <WinCamXP> using wine?
[02:11] <akavir> Downloaded Fallout:NV through it
[02:11] <akavir> yes with wine
[02:11] <almoxarife> I am assuming I don't need steam?
[02:12] <RenaKunisaki> ahh, I needed to update /etc/exports as well
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> even under wine, if you afford to have a powerful enough machine to compensate for the performance drop you could at least spend the time to either dualboot or buy windows
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> *if you could afford
[02:12] <WinCamXP> ahahah yeah
[02:12] <almoxarife> can someone tell me where xbmc stores video files while they run?
[02:13] <WinCamXP> just a couple days ago i wubi'd Ubuntu onto two laptops, both of the users prefer it over windows greatly
[02:13] <almoxarife> not as sexy as getting steam to work but it would make me happy\
[02:13] <galamar> WinCamXP, try crossover it is better than wine for me. it still uses some wine code I think.
[02:13] <akavir> I do have a duel boot with windows on my gaming computer, but it's interesting to see how well a game designed for windows works on linux
[02:13] <WinCamXP> from what I know that's the kinda more polished version of Wine
[02:13] <akavir> it's also commercial
[02:14] <almoxarife> steam=virtualbox+winxp/win7  <-- see, never left ubuntu, just sexed it up a bit
[02:14] <WinCamXP> lol virtualbox FTW
[02:14] <Dulak> Cedega works really really well for gaming.  Crossover is ok but aimed more at office type apps than games.
[02:14] <dinesh_> hi
[02:14] <WinCamXP> ....hi
[02:14] <Dulak> wine 1.3 works pretty good for me though.
[02:14] <dinesh_> i am zorin os 5
[02:14] <akavir> I've had more success with wine than with vb running windows
[02:15] <WinCamXP> why would you need support for office apps with Open/LibreOffice?
[02:15] <ironm> good luck galamar
[02:15] <ironm> I have to leave
[02:15] <WinCamXP> worst case scenario it can't render a .docx properly, and it's not hard to convert it to old-skool .doc
[02:15] <galamar> ok thanks
[02:16] <escott> WinCamXP, lots of corporate vba code
[02:16] <Dulak> WinCamXP: vba
[02:16] <szal> dinesh_: doesn't matter what OS you use unless you have a support question, then it needs to be Ubuntu or a _supported_ derivative
[02:17] <dinesh_> sorry my question is. how to make alt+tab into more graphical like cover switch
[02:20] <szal> dinesh_: I don't think that Zorin OS qualifies as a supported *buntu derivative
[02:21] <akavir> If you buy a paid versoin of Zorin they will support you!
[02:22] <szal> akavir: atm, their website isn't even available ;)
[02:22] <ZombieRome> i'm having a problem with my microphone in ubuntu 11.04
[02:22] <mcurran> i just was too
[02:22] <ZombieRome> output is really crackly, but it wasn't in 10.10
[02:22] <mcurran> do you have a front mic ?
[02:23] <ZombieRome> it's on a headset and it's plugged into the front port
[02:23] <szal> tried another port?
[02:23] <ZombieRome> it comes up as "Front Microphone" in Sound Preferences
[02:23] <mcurran> I couldn't get mine to work, so I tried the front instead of the back and now it's working in the front, but still not the back.  Don't know about quality though
[02:23] <ZombieRome> problem with the back port is that sound from that port had less volume in 10.10
[02:24] <ZombieRome> i'll try now, though
[02:24] <mcurran> did you try to adjust alsamixer
[02:24] <mcurran> pulseaudio sucks, but I'm trying to keep it right now
[02:24] <tainted> my ubuntu machine keeps locking up
[02:24] <tainted> how do i figure out what happened?
[02:24] <mcurran> I'm using brasero and burning a disc has almost completely disabled this machine.  Ridiculous resource hog
[02:24] <akavir> szal:There website works http://zorin-os.com/
[02:24] <mcurran> ps x and check the process values
[02:25] <szal> mcurran, ZombieRome: no real need to tinker w/ alsamixer here, just fire up pavucontrol & adjust hardware volume if necessary
[02:25] <ZombieRome> whoa! microphone sounds better when i turned down Front Mi in alsamixer
[02:25] <mcurran> i had python-imaging and a couple other python packages totally drowning out my machine last week.  A simple reinstall fixed it.
[02:25] <akavir> szal:They've gone through like 4 websites, the one that google brings back isn't even their new main site.  It's a pretty "special" distro
[02:25] <tainted> anyone?
[02:26] <Dulak> tainted: have a look at the logs in /var/log
[02:26] <escott> !sysrq | tainted ... then check the logs
[02:26] <mcurran> yeah, good to hear ZombieRome.  Pavucontrol works pretty good too for pulse, but basically the same settings as the default sound preferences app.
[02:26] <mcurran> yeah, or use xkill, works pissa
[02:26] <nand`> How good is 10-bit support in Ubuntu?
[02:26] <nand`> Are there any display drivers which support it?
[02:26] <mcurran> kill or xkill if kill won't work, or it's a gui process
[02:27] <mcurran> maybe an emulator?  have no idea
[02:29] <szal> nand`: define '10-bit'
[02:30] <nand`> szal: 10 bit color
[02:31] <szal> not sure why anyone would want that..  colour is usually 24 or 32 bit
[02:31] <nand`> 10 bit per channel
[02:31] <nand`> 30 bit overall
[02:31] <nand`> it's usually padded with an extra 2 bits of alpha
[02:31] <nand`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#Beyond_truecolor
[02:33] <Nubi1Kenobi> Anyone alaive?
[02:33] <Nubi1Kenobi> alive
[02:33] <Nubi1Kenobi> ??
[02:34] <OmegaForte> Nubi1Kenobi, Nope. We're all dead.
[02:34] <escott> !ask | Nubi1Kenobi
[02:34] <Dulak> nope, everybody died last night
[02:34] <Nubi1Kenobi> well the beginers chanell was fn dead
[02:34] <Nubi1Kenobi> haha
[02:34] <escott> Nubi1Kenobi, you didn't ask anything
[02:34] <Nubi1Kenobi> ubottu: You know, you could be a little nicer about it
[02:35] <akavir> Yeah I though we were here to have fun?
[02:35] <Nubi1Kenobi> and I am not going to waste my typing if no one is avail...just the way I look at it
[02:35] <Nubi1Kenobi> :)
[02:35] <nand`> >waste my typing
[02:35] <nand`> lol
[02:35] <Dulak> Then do without help.  If it's not worth typing, it's not worth fixing, imo.
[02:35] <nand`> buy a mechanical keyboard
[02:35] <Nubi1Kenobi> I tried talking for 5 minutes to dead unresponsive peeps in the beginer chanel
[02:35] <nand`> no typing will ever be wasted or difficult
[02:35] <FloodBot1> nand`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:35] <Nubi1Kenobi> Dulak: Dont be a tard man......
[02:36] <Nubi1Kenobi> I was just saying...seems like yer in a bad mood
[02:37] <Dulak> "Hey, i need help, but I'm not gonna ask a question, it's not worth me typing.  So help.  I demand it!"
[02:37] <Dulak> But yeah, it's ME.
[02:37] <Nubi1Kenobi> Basically....got a few issues...anyone familiar with ahk in windows? I am looking for something similar that is good in linux
[02:37] <Nubi1Kenobi> Dulak:  LOL
[02:38] <OmegaForte> Nubi1Kenobi, Yeah, it's called autohotkey.
[02:38] <Nubi1Kenobi> cool bean...was sure they had one for linux
[02:39] <OmegaForte> Nubi1Kenobi, It works fine in Wine, and works pretty good at it's stuff
[02:39] <Nubi1Kenobi> I am new in the linux world.....jjust into it for a couple days now
[02:39] <Dulak> Nubi1Kenobi: Depending on what you want to do you can just hotkey a script without any sort of extra application.
[02:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> Second issue.....I *think I am using grub - for the dual boot riht? I want to change the default OS that is loaded and I am not sure how
[02:40] <OmegaForte> Nubi1Kenobi, Like what, Ubuntu or Windows, or what?
[02:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> Dulak: How do I do that?
[02:40] <Dulak> Nubi1Kenobi: what version of ubuntu?
[02:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> Well need Win7 defaulted for Wifey instead of Linux
[02:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> v11.something
[02:40] <Dulak> Nubi1Kenobi: System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:40] <Nubi1Kenobi> cool
[02:41] <Nubi1Kenobi> ty
[02:41] <sunzaru> Hias
[02:42] <Dulak> Nubi1Kenobi: you need to edit /etc/default/grub to change the default OS it boots.  'sudo gedit /etc/default/grub'  then after you save it run 'sudo update-grub2' to make it live
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[02:43] <sunzaru> ....wow.
[02:43] <akavir> ok then...
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> owo
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> wow
[02:43] <sunzaru> Jha ash
[02:43] <hikenboot> anyone in here use open exchange and evolution and ubuntu as their email solution
[02:44] <c-boy> hi
[02:44] <Nubi1Kenobi> brb
[02:45] <sunzaru> Funny you say that, is open exch hard to set up?  Relitivly speaking anyway.
[02:45] <hikenboot> I only know what it is but havent used it...so I was hoping for some input here
[02:45] <cmanns> man
[02:45] <sunzaru> Oh, hehehe.
[02:45] <cmanns> Nvidia drivers suck on ubuntu like ati on BSD distro's.
[02:46] <sunzaru> Bbl
[02:47] <Dulak> cmanns: I think that is true only if you have a really new card in my experience
[02:47] <cmanns> I dunno this card from 03/04 has yet to work on a fresh install.
[02:53] <Seanmc98|mobile> Is there a way to remove grub, remove ubuntu 11.04, and keep windows vista without having to have a windows install disk?
[02:54] <escott> Seanmc98|mobile, you would need to restore the windows boot loader. not sure if that can be done within linux or not
[02:54] <Seanmc98|mobile> I can boot into windows
[02:55] <escott> !mbr
[02:56] <escott> Seanmc98|mobile, i think its something like fixmbr or some such
[02:56] <Seanmc98|mobile> escott: is that for windows or ubuntu
[02:56] <escott> Seanmc98|mobile, you can then boot the install media/livecd and grow the ntfs partition out
[02:56] <szal> escott: in XP, yes, in Vista/Win7, it's reportedly a bit different, but in any case it needs a Windows boot medium
[02:57] <szal> getting rid of any non-Windows OS is the easy part: just format the partition(s)
[02:58] <Seanmc98|mobile> I just screwed up vista by installing kaspersky antivirus and my system is super super lagging and grub wont allow me to restore windows through acerbic e recovery manager
[02:58] <mcurran> "grub wont allow me to restore windows through acerbic e recovery manager"  what?
[02:58] <Seanmc98|mobile> Acer
[02:59] <Seanmc98|mobile> Sorry. Auto correct
[02:59] <mcurran> download a windows vista iso and use the recovery console
[02:59] <sunzaru> Why not just uninstall?
[02:59] <mcurran> or you might be able to use ms-sys
[02:59] <Seanmc98|mobile> It wont. No matter what it wind uninstall
[03:00] <mcurran> it's called formatting :)
[03:00] <escott> Seanmc98|mobile, the windows restore functionality (which is probably what acer's recovery is based on) will want to replace the mbr
[03:00] <Seanmc98|mobile> I tried normal uninstall CMD uninstall and nothing
[03:00] <[deXter]> Hi all, anyone here have any experience with Logitech ClearChat Pro USB Headset?
[03:00] <mcurran> yes, put grub on the linux partition and then restore the mbr, and then go back and make the linux partition the active/boot parition, simple
[03:01] <hikenboot> noone in here has used open xchange?
[03:01] <mcurran> so many people have this problem, it's ridiculous, someday they might change the default install behavior for grub.
[03:01] <mcurran> ?
[03:01] <Seanmc98|mobile> So escott what do u suggest I do?
[03:01] <sunzaru> Hiken, not me but...I'll be trying it in a few days.
[03:01] <szal> mcurran: what problem?
[03:02] <mcurran> overwriting the windows mbr when the os is detected, instead of just installing grub to the linux parition and marking it active
[03:02] <mcurran> then chainloading windows
[03:02] <Seanmc98|mobile> No clue what u just said. Lol
[03:03] <sunzaru> Heheh
[03:03] <mcurran> then we wouldn't have every new user here panicking thinking they just bricked their windows install
[03:03] <sunzaru> ...its making windows sys restore harder than it should be.
[03:03] <Seanmc98|mobile> I know I didn't brick it. Its just a pin there are certain things I use windows for.
[03:03] <hikenboot> sunzaru: can you send me a paragraph on how good you think it is after a week of use? I have a client looking for an alternative to exchange? I will try ad stay connected for the next week...
[03:04] <mcurran> I totally agree.  I wouldn't use windows, if games were up to par
[03:04] <escott> Seanmc98|mobile, i'm afraid i don't have a good suggestion. after this pain you may want to use a real backup tool like dd or ghostimage
[03:04] <mcurran> omg haha
[03:04] <Nubi1Kenobi> What the heck is the difference between Google Chrome and Chromium. ended up downloading and installing both
[03:04] <mcurran> yeah, keep believing that propaganda escott
[03:05] <szal> Nubi1Kenobi: Chrome has proprietary components, Chromium is entirely open-source
[03:05] <Nubi1Kenobi> That is what I thought
[03:05] <Nubi1Kenobi> cool...
[03:05] <cmanns> ok so i gotg
[03:05] <cmanns> nvidia-96-kernel-source
[03:05] <Nubi1Kenobi> I think Chromium was working better...
[03:05] <cmanns> How come I can m-a the kernel modules?
[03:05] <jeffrash> chrome is google's branded version of Chromium
[03:05] <szal> cmanns: you can what?
[03:05] <Nubi1Kenobi> Another question...
[03:06] <Nubi1Kenobi> I downloaded xchat.....
[03:06] <cmanns> can't*
[03:06] <cmanns> Sorry arthritis is kicking in
[03:06] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, what is your issue?
[03:06] <szal> Nubi1Kenobi: define 'downloaded'
[03:06] <Nubi1Kenobi> cant figure out how to install it....one of the files said something about compiling??
[03:06] <mcurran> cmanns, no, use nvidia's drivers and compile the modules yourself, much better.
[03:06] <mcurran> what do you use a geforce 4
[03:06] <Seanmc98|mobile> Such
[03:06] <cmanns> Even for legacy gpus?
[03:06] <cmanns> mcurran, yep
[03:06] <[deXter]> Nubi1Kenobi: There's no need to do that
[03:06] <Nubi1Kenobi> I was a Windows only user until the other day...trying to figure this out
[03:06] <Nubi1Kenobi> [deXter]: ok
[03:07] <[deXter]> Nubi1Kenobi: yum install xchat
[03:07] <Nubi1Kenobi> [deXter]: xplain....I hate free noding
[03:07] <[deXter]> And you're all set :)
[03:07] <szal> Nubi1Kenobi: rule #1: you don't need to download anything from websites, look in your favourite software management application first
[03:07] <mcurran> yeah, just download that version of the drive and install it the way it tells u on the nvidia site
[03:07] <Nubi1Kenobi> DOH!
[03:07] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, and next time use my nick in your reply, then I can see you
[03:07] <mcurran> or use something like the restricted driver tool (jockey)
[03:07] <[deXter]> Nubi1Kenobi: Read this please: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#installsoftware
[03:08] <Seanmc98|mobile> Duckfd: I screwed up windows. Grub 1.99 wont allow me to use acers e recovery management tool to restore windows so I want to remove grub and ubuntu to restore windows.
[03:08] <mcurran> envy-ng used to work for me too when I used my geforce 4/nforce 2 board
[03:08] <szal> [deXter]: this is #ubuntu, not #fedora
[03:08] <cmanns> mcurran, sure I should do from source install
[03:08] <cmanns> Does envy-ng work with 11.x?
[03:08] <Nubi1Kenobi> [deXter]: fEDORA??
[03:09] <sublim21> can someone help understand the terminal?
[03:09] <szal> cmanns: what is your problem anyway?
[03:09] <szal> !terminal | sublim21
[03:09] <Guest29749> Hi I am installing ubuntu on my laptop but have run into some problems
[03:09] <mcurran> basically download the linux driver 96.whatever and then startup in command line, or do Ctrl+Alt+F2/kill gdm/windowmanger, and then run the .sh
[03:09] <sublim21> much obliged
[03:10] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, you screwed up grub?
[03:10] <Guest29749> It seems to install fine and boots into the gdm gui at start but if I restart it it gets stuck and does not boot into gui
[03:10] <mcurran> you'll need to install linux-headers, fakeroot, configure-debian as well
[03:10] <cmanns> szal, on first propritary video driver install it failed
[03:10] <szal> cmanns: what failed?
[03:10] <cmanns> so i did a few other things and i noticed theres never an nvidia.ko and what not so its not installing right
[03:10] <cmanns> no idea apt-get never spits out an error
[03:10] <cmanns> So I try to manually make the modules with m-a auto install n such but it looks for wrong kernel source packages n such
[03:10] <szal> cmanns: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-96 && sudo nvidia-xconfig', then reboot
[03:11] <szal> cmanns: and make sure dkms is also installed
[03:11] <Seanmc98|mobile> No
[03:11] <cmanns> yeah but I have no ko
[03:11] <cmanns> dkms?
[03:11] <mcurran> nvidia.ko is just a module and if you've already tried a bunch; you should uninstall whatever you've already installed and try again.  My advice just use jockey if you don't know what your doing, works great
[03:11] <Seanmc98|mobile> Duckfd: no grub works
[03:11] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[03:11] <cmanns> How do I use jockey
[03:12] <mcurran> you'll need to add afew lines to xorg.conf as well<  option "AddARGBVisuals" "true" and option "AddARGBLXVisuals" "true" if you want' compiz to work on the geforce 4 without blakc boxes for windows
[03:12] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, your not the first...
[03:12] <Seanmc98|mobile> Not the first what
[03:12] <mcurran> just install it and then look for the restricted drivers manager in the menu
[03:13] <[deXter]> Nubi1Kenobi: Whoops, sorry, wrong channel :P
[03:13] <cmanns> mcurran, so how do I get nvidia.ko?
[03:13] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, not the first to mess up grub,..
[03:13] <Guest29749> with a geforce 550 do I need to install the restricted drivers?
[03:13] <[deXter]> Nubi1Kenobi: for ubuntu it's sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:13] <leftist> http://pastebin.com/VBg427gs can someone please help me with this please.
[03:13] <Nubi1Kenobi> szal: Thanks man, exactly what I was looking for!
[03:13] <Nubi1Kenobi> brb
[03:13] <leftist> we dont have access to any windows machines at this time
[03:13] <leftist> we cant mount the drive and it is critical we do
[03:14] <Seanmc98|mobile> Duckfd: grub is NOT messed up. I want to REMOVE it and ubuntu to restore windows
[03:14] <Seanmc98|mobile> I have this.....http://db.tt/R1l7ouX
[03:14] <mcurran> nvidia.ko will be installed by any of the ways you install the driver.  or nv.ko
[03:15] <sunzaru> Sean: as in... done with ubuntu??
[03:15] <mcurran> don't worry about nvidia.ko
[03:15] <escott> leftist, you could try using the ntfs-3g which is a fuse driver
[03:15] <mcurran> that's beyond the scope of your issue
[03:15] <Seanmc98|mobile> sunzaru: for now yes
[03:15] <cmanns> ok
[03:15] <escott> leftist, but you really need to do what it says and run windows check disk
[03:15] <mcurran> Seanmc98, if you insist on restoring windows with linux, use ms-sys
[03:15] <cmanns> I got nvidia-96.ko in /lib/modules/3.0.0-7-generic/updates/dkms/ <<
[03:15] <mcurran> simple command-line tool built for that purpose
[03:16] <leftist> we cant we dont have any windows laptops with us. only unix
[03:16] <leftist> linux
[03:16] <cmanns> So is that what I need?
[03:16] <mcurran> omg
[03:16] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, you want to install windoes after linux? **Then to hell wit you. Ehat is wrong with you?
[03:16] <leftist> we tried vm xp but that wont work
[03:16] <szal> cmanns: 'lsb_release -a' please
[03:16] <Nubi1Kenobi> this is cool
[03:16] <Guest29749> anyone experienced with laptop installations of ubuntu?
[03:16] <leftist> any other ideas? anyone?
[03:16] <craigsaboe> Seanmc98|mobile: do you have a windows disk?
[03:17] <Nubi1Kenobi> in  xchat....how to you see the list of peeps sitting in the room like freenode?
[03:17] <briscoejesse> Good evening, I'm a newbie so bear with me. I'm trying to find  an inexpensive PCI SATA controller that will be compatible with Ubuntu. The goal is to create a storage server. I plan to have three 1TB drives connected to the card, I would then like to use mdadm to create a RAID for the server. My problem is that most of the SATA controllers seem to also be Fake-RAID cards too and that seems to cause a compatibility issue. This server is
[03:17] <Seanmc98|mobile> Duckfd: no I want to remove grub and ubuntu to boot into acer e recovery manager to restore windows and then dualboot with ubuntu again
[03:17] <cmanns> woot
[03:17] <cmanns> I got it szal, thank you
[03:17] <cmanns> I had to modprobe -i nvidia-96
[03:17] <Nubi1Kenobi> ?
[03:18] <escott> briscoejesse, fakeraid won't cause problems, just don't use it
[03:18] <KE1HA> Seanmc98|mobile: All you should ahve to so is use your recovery CD, as the partition is still there. Once the WinDoze boot loader is working again, it's a repartition exercise then.
[03:18] <szal> cmanns: still, 'lsb_release -a' please
[03:18] <nicolas> is there a channel 4 discussing computer parts?
[03:18] <Nubi1Kenobi>  /join Xchat
[03:18] <mcurran> Seanmc98, i already told you how to do that
[03:18] <Nubi1Kenobi> shitaki
[03:18] <szal> nicolas: -> ##hardware
[03:18] <nicolas> thx
[03:18] <Seanmc98|mobile> I don't have a CD I bought the laptop from a friend
[03:19] <nicolas> ##hardware
[03:19] <nicolas> srry
[03:19] <cmanns> ok hold on
[03:19] <Duckfd> Seanmc98|mobile, first please get a new nick ...then I'll help fo sure
[03:19] <KE1HA> Seanmc98|mobile: Any recovery CD form your vintange, Win7, Vista etc etc. Without it, your kinda stuck.
[03:19] <craigsaboe> Seanmc98|mobile:  One way to get rid of grub is to boot to a windows install disk, and go to the Recovery Console.  Running "fixboot" and "fixmbr" will fix it up.
[03:20] <leftist> this is ubsurd. not a single suggestion other then the obvious which cant be done.
[03:20] <briscoejesse> escott, thanks for the reply. I'm a little gunshy as I just had a bad experience with a sabrent card that was based on a silicon image chip. It wouldn't boot past detecting the drives. Is there a chip maker or brand that has proven reliable?
[03:20] <Seanmc98|mobile> Why Duckfd
[03:20] <mcurran> KE1HA, I have plenty of Windows ISO's if you want me to host one.
[03:20] <mcurran> a simple search could get u the same as well
[03:20] <seanmc98> Duckfd, better?
[03:20] <leftist> i am not going to get billigerant bu i should feel it..
[03:21] <KE1HA> He;s just needs the recovery ISO portion, then boot from that, rpair the NTFS MBR and it's sorted.
[03:21] <leftist> i just need a logical procedure
[03:21] <Dulak> briscoejesse: if it has to work in anything, 3ware is the way to go
[03:21] <leftist> anyone?
[03:21] <leftist> http://pastebin.com/VBg427gs
[03:21] <justdave> is there a way to hard-code the monitor settings in X11 on Lucid?
[03:22] <justdave> it appears to want to autoconfigure everything, but I'm using a composite output for the monitor
[03:22] <leftist> seveas are you around?
[03:22] <escott> briscoejesse, check what chipsets are supported in the kernel
[03:22] <Dulak> justdave: yes create  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <justdave> and the video card can't detect if there's anything connected to it or not
[03:22] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: do the proposed fixes make sense to you? Don't worry about the other guy.
[03:22] <mcurran> justdave, use the screen section
[03:22] <KE1HA> mcurran: Im not 100% on this but I think any recovery CD from the same Distro win7-32 or 64 whatever he has should work, so anybody with the same distro could make the recovery CD
[03:22] <Dulak> briscoejesse: never go cheap on I/O cards.  Skip the BS and buy a 3ware and never worry about it.
[03:22] <Duckfd> seanmc98, not much but lets go.....
[03:22] <mcurran> yeah, maybe
[03:23] <briscoejesse> Dulak, if it were my choice I would but I don't sign the check
[03:23] <seanmc98> craigsaboe, what do you meAN?
[03:23] <seanmc98> Duckfd, go where?
[03:23] <leftist> don't any of you supposed ubuntu guru's have a solution beside what was already suggested?
[03:23] <briscoejesse> escott, I'll do that. Thanks for the idea
[03:23] <Dulak> briscoejesse: you pay one way or the other, up front for a good brand, or on the backend with downtime and just plain crappiness.
[03:23] <Duckfd> seanmc98, your issues?
[03:23] <obert> i need to fix my own user permissions :(
[03:23] <Omen_20> Hey guys. Does anyone know if Intel has made any announcements on bringing WiDi 2.0 to non-Windows platforms?
[03:24] <justdave> mcurran: ok, and what do I put in it?  :)  I've screwed around with it before, on other machines, but always had something to start with.  Not having one there at all is new to me :)
[03:24] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: the answer I think is you probably need to get a windows install disk, to restore the MBR.
[03:24] <obert> should i needed to use sudo too often,correct?
[03:24] <leftist> http://pastebin.com/VBg427gs i searched on google i tried the fedora trick it doesnt work. someone give me a ubuntu trick
[03:24] <obert> *shouldnt
[03:24] <seanmc98> ok Duckfd i have 3 partions. one is the acer Erecovvery  manager, winodows vista and one ubuntu
[03:24] <KE1HA> leftist: when did it start happeneing, what were you doing to the system when it happened? Was it just out of the blue ot when you were changing something?
[03:25] <ariel`>  anbyb ody know the command to terminate an application
[03:25] <seanmc98> while grub is installed it wont allow me to use the acer e recovery manager to restore vista
[03:25] <obert> ariel`: kill?
[03:25] <szal> leftist: you won't get anywhere by being annoying..  take that HDD, find a Windows machine to connect it to & run 'chkdsk /f'.  Period.
[03:25] <seanmc98> i need to remove grub, remove ubuntu and the i have it from there
[03:25] <Duckfd> seanmc98, so, what do you  want done?
[03:25] <obert> ariel`: pidof appname - to find the id, then kill thatnumber
[03:26] <Logan_> ariel`: sudo pkill <package name>
[03:26] <seanmc98> Duckfd,  i need to remove grub, remove ubuntu and the i have it from there but i dont have a windows CD
[03:26] <leftist> ke1ha we were using it as a shared drive. it did this before but we used a windows machine and it did whatever it did and then it worked. problem is it is loaded with a ton of code we need right now but we cant get to it and we dont have a windows machine around and there are no stores open here in atlanta to get one....so we despirately need to access this damn drive.
[03:27] <leftist> you know what..
[03:27] <leftist> fuck it
[03:27] <leftist> later
[03:27] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: HERE.... http://tinyurl.com/2fk9do
[03:27] <justdave> I seem to recall there being something I could invoke via dpkg-reconfigure that would walk through the options to set up a default xorg.conf file
[03:27] <Duckfd> seanmc98, nah, don't remove anything, make the other partitions ext4 and yout good...
[03:28] <justdave> is that still in there?
[03:28] <KE1HA> leftist: Well, the only time I can recall hearing of this error was in one of two conditions, either a fundemental HW issue or the machine lost power in the middle of a read/write cycle, with the latter being corrected by doing a chkdsk -f
[03:28] <seanmc98> Duckfd, how do i do that without formatting???/
[03:28] <seanmc98> craigsaboe, i dont have a CD
[03:28] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: create a windows boot disk, boot to it, and run fixmbr
[03:29] <escott> justdave, these days xorg.conf can usually be removed. nvidia drivers are the only main reason to have one
[03:29] <Duckfd> seanmc98, why do you want to format?
[03:29] <seanmc98> i dont
[03:29] <mcurran> no, i think you need xorg.conf for the geforce 4, since it's not suppored anymore
[03:29] <justdave> escott: that's what I just explained: I don't have one and it doesn't work.  I'm using a composite output, and it can't detect that apparently
[03:29] <ariel`> obert bow do you open the foce quit dialog
[03:29] <mcurran> at least if you want compiz to work on it
[03:29] <justdave> it worked fine until I upgraded and it removed the xorg.conf file
[03:29] <Duckfd> seanmc98, then dont...
[03:29] <seanmc98> Duckfd, i just prefer to do it that way
[03:29] <obert> ariel`: ?
[03:29] <ZombieRome> i'm having with compiz scale addons
[03:30] <seanmc98> i just want to reset everything from scratch
[03:30] <justdave> composite output on an Intel graphics card
[03:30] <ZombieRome> it's not drawing window titles when i hover over windows in scale
[03:30] <justdave> and it's a shared port with the DVI output on the card, so you can use one or the other but not both
[03:30] <justdave> so the card always sees the DVI and then says nothing's connected to it
[03:30] <mcurran> sean, just try adding those two lines I mentioned under the device section for the nvidia card in xorg.conf
[03:30] <Duckfd> seanmc98,  Don't, linux can read anything...
[03:30] <justdave> I had to manually override something to tell it to use the composite before
[03:31] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: please ignore duckfd, at this point he's just screwing with you..
[03:31] <obert> ariel`: just follow Logan_'s tip
[03:31] <ariel`> oberand wheres that
[03:32] <Duckfd> seanmc98, I'm me don'y listen to the asshole
[03:32] <Logan_> ariel`: You can also just type sudo xkill in a terminal, and you'll be able to click the program that you want to quit.
[03:32] <obert> ariel`: sudo pkill <package name>
[03:32] <Logan_> !language Duckfd
[03:32] <seanmc98> Duckfd, PM?
[03:32] <Logan_> !language | Duckfd
[03:32] <Duckfd> sure
[03:32] <Guest29749> how do I safely close and restart the desktop gui?
[03:33] <obert> ariel`: those commands are to be written in the terminal, naturally
[03:33] <craigsaboe> seanmc98: ok, I'm trying to help you and he's telling you to reformat to ext4.
[03:33] <szal> Guest29749: log out, log in
[03:33] <bryan> Nubi1Kenobi
[03:33] <seanmc98> how do i gain root in terminal?
[03:33] <bryan> shit
[03:34] <KE1HA> sudo
[03:34] <ZombieRome> compiz isn't showing window titles in scale addons even though i have its settings set to do so
[03:34] <szal> !root | seanmc98
[03:34] <KE1HA> or suro -s to remain sudo until exit
[03:34] <Dulak> seanmc98: 'sudo -i' for a root shell
[03:34] <KE1HA> whoo sri sudo -s .. ..
[03:34] <Guest94121> this is retarded
[03:34] <Guest94121> grrr
[03:35] <ghassan> how can I edit the path for all users on my system?
[03:35] <ghassan> the path variable
[03:35] <vuth> hi guys i need a recommendation for a better torrent program..transmission speed keeps going on and off
[03:35] <ghassan> PATH=$PATH:/path/to/where  works but seems like only for the user I am logged in as
[03:36] <KE1HA> Guest94121: hold on one Im finding a real eaay way for ya, just using the KB
[03:36] <ZombieRome> i'm having a problem with compiz not showing window titles in scale addons
[03:37] <Dulak> ghassan: add a file like 'newpath.sh' to /etc/profile.d and have it set the path.  That will affect all users
[03:37] <tensorpudding> ghassan: it's not guaranteed to work, but you can add that line to /etc/profile
[03:37] <tensorpudding> ghassan: ultimately users can reset $PATH to whatever they want
[03:37] <KE1HA> Guest94121: System >> KB Prefrences >> Options >. Key Sequence to Kill Xserver .. Enable that, then it's Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to quit and reenable.
[03:38] <tensorpudding> ghassan: and /etc/profile is only read by a couple shells, though it covers the usual ones
[03:38] <Guest29749> thanks KE1HA
[03:38] <ghassan> thanks. I will try that. I am trying to add php to my path and its like I have to redo it every time I restart
[03:40] <justdave> so for anyone following along with my problem, here's how to fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9431354&postcount=8
[03:40] <ZombieRamen> can anyone help me with my compiz problem? scale addons isn't drawing the window title
[03:40] <justdave> that generates an xorg.conf with the stuff that it autodetects and then you can edit it to fix the mis-detection
[03:42] <endip> Hi all, quick question. There's a known long term issue with Realtek NIC RTL8111/8168B. The problem is that Ubuntu loads the RTL8169 Drivers at book and doesn't recognize the NIC. I read somewhere that by blacklisting the RTL8169 Drivers ubuntu will load the RTL8111 drivers. So, my question is how can I blacklist the RTL8169 drivers? 'Cause I don't know how.
[03:42] <CitizenKang> .
[03:43] <escott> endip, there is an /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, not sure exactly how it works
[03:45] <endip> escott, funny that file doesn't exist in 11.04
[03:46] <escott> endip, blacklist.conf
[03:47] <endip> escott, doh! I'm a retard.
[03:47] <endip> wrong dir
[03:48] <endip> escott, Interesting, there's a file called blacklist-rare-network.conf  --- I wonder what that's for.
[03:48] <KE1HA> If you remove all other drivers, you probably dont need to usr blacklist as there aren't any conflicting drvs.
[03:49] <KE1HA> The purpose of blacklisting is to prevent other modules from being loaded that could render something inoperable.
[03:49] <cmanns> Odd
[03:49] <cmanns> I got Wifi0 and Wlan0
[03:49] <cmanns> lol?
[03:50] <KE1HA> most of use do :-)
[03:50] <KE1HA> I think only one actually works or domes anything, ones a control and I cant rememebr what the other one is for, but it was kinda silly when I read about it.
[03:51] <TBotNik> vsync: Hey tried even deleting the .profile, but still can not log in.  Any ideas, no errors without the .profile but also empty desktop.
[03:52] <TBotNik> vsync: Actually does log in wo the file, but then no apps etc. since coming from that file.
[03:54] <jtannenbaum> can someone explain the pattern behind folders called bin? If I created a ~/bin folder, what would be sensible to have there?
[03:55] <jtannenbaum> I know an example is shell scripts that are executed often
[03:55] <KE1HA> Usually, in the unix world, its where your executable silfe / programs reside.
[03:55] <escott> jtannenbaum, ~/bin is in your path, so anything you want to execute
[03:55] <TBotNik> All: need help getting login set backup for XWin.  Box logs fine to tty, but was erroring reading the ~/myuser/.profile so deleted it, but now login, but no apps.  On liveCD now, can I fix it from here?
[03:55] <KE1HA>  .. executable files .. .. .
[03:55] <jtannenbaum> cool thanks
[03:56] <KE1HA> jtannenbaum: here's a better explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[03:58] <TBotNik> All: Actually did 1. backup to .profile_old, then 2. mv .profile .profile_bup, so can recover, but something wrong with it and will not read correctly
[03:58] <escott> TBotNik, your ~/.profile shouldn't affect your desktop, but you could copy it back out of /etc/skel
[04:00] <rcmaehl> is it possible to get something like this: http://www.tim.id.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/networkmap.jpg for ubuntu?
[04:01] <nankura>  hello guys, im on xubuntu 11.04 and id like to install gnome 3 to try it out, but i noticed in the package manager theres 2 options of a package called "gnome" and one called "gnome-session" gnome seems to be a package that includes alot of software and tools. but im wondering if i install that, will it take over my XFCE installation, or can i choose either from gdm
[04:01] <escott> !gnome3 | nankura
[04:02] <TBotNik> escott: But If I just restore it then back to square one, with it erroring.  Do you know that the ownership and permissions are supposed to be on this file?  When trouble start two things changed, 1. file somehow was chmod 775, 2. added "%myuser ALL=(ALL) ALL" to /etc/sudoers.
[04:02] <endip> Does anyone know how to blacklist a RLTR8169 driver so that it doesn't load? I know you have to add a line to blacklist.conf, but I don't know how.
[04:02] <klossor> hmm ubuntu is outputting to 2 monitors (mirrored image) at the moment, though when I try to extend them I get an error stating the configuration request (3800 x 1920) cant be output... any idea's folks?
[04:02] <TBotNik> escott: Going to undo the sudoers now, but still do not understand the issue with the .profile file?
[04:04] <escott> TBotNik, permissions on your .profile shouldn't matter that much but 644 is sufficient
[04:05] <escott> TBotNik, mainly it shouldn be writable by other users since it gets executed all the time
[04:06] <TBotNik> escott: Set at 755 right now
[04:08] <Generic_Dumbass> Where does Ktorrent put your downloads by default?
[04:08] <TBotNik> escott: Thinking the entry is sudoers, was changing the uid level from 1000 to something else and therefore making it not readable, as seeing it no longer belonging to the user.
[04:09] <TBotNik> escott: Think I'm right?
[04:10] <Generic_Dumbass> Disregard my question, Ktorrent became unreadable under High Contrast theme and it took a while
[04:10] <TBotNik> K BRB rebooting
[04:10] <escott> TBotNik, doubt it, making your user capably of sudo-ing doesn't mean that applications will automatically sudo
[04:11] <TBotNik> Maybe will see on reboot!
[04:11] <mcurran> how about changing your userid to 0 and editing sudoers file to make u equal to root.  That's what I do.
[04:11] <nankura> hey guys, ok i downloaded a phew games with the package manager and bits of software and im wondering, when u download a package or game, or program. with software center, or package manager, does it store the packages anywhere on the pc? so u can back it up and not have to redownload it
[04:11] <mcurran> Because I know what I'm doing.  :)
[04:12] <escott> nankura, /var/cache/apt
[04:12] <no-name-> hmm, i unchecked "show controls" in totem media player... does anybody know how to get them back ?
[04:13] <no-name-> oh, nvm ... ctrl + h
[04:13] <Caradoc>  /ignore * JOINS
[04:15] <rcmaehl> Is there a graphical representation of the ARP tables kinda like the windows graphical network map I can get anywhere?
[04:15] <mcurran> Is there a way to force a package install with either synaptic/apt or dpkg?  Ignoring dependencies?  For instance I already install nmap via source, and now want to install pbnj, but it won't let me, even though nmap is installed...
[04:15] <escott> mcurran, see dpkg
[04:16] <OmegaForte> mcurran, Yeah, it's in the apt-cache. I believe it's in /etc/apt?
[04:16] <OmegaForte> mcurran, Disreguard that.
[04:16] <OmegaForte> nankura,  Yeah, it's in the apt-cache. I believe it's in /etc/apt?
[04:16] <escott> mcurran, man dpkg | grep force
[04:17] <mcurran> no, those solutions don't work
[04:17] <mcurran> they just wanna make me install the repo's version of the dependency
[04:18] <escott> rcmaehl, if you can extract the arp table I would just send it through graphviz
[04:18] <nankura> i found it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:18] <nankura> total of 2.1GB XD
[04:18] <nankura> lol
[04:19] <escott> mcurran, you may want to force the entry for the dependency
[04:19] <Guest29749> for Nvidia graphics cards how to ensure the drivers are correctly installed?
[04:19] <nankura> go to your main menu > settings > NVIDIA the settings panel should be there
[04:19] <Khisanth> --ignore-depends=nmap seems less drastic :)
[04:19] <nankura> or additional drivers/jockey
[04:21] <Guest29749> it doesnt appear to be
[04:21] <Guest29749> also I am using the new ubuntu layout
[04:21] <Guest29749> it is confusing
[04:21] <rww> !classic
[04:21] <Guest29749> hmm
[04:25] <faint545> quick question, how often does the /temp/ folder get cleared out? or if and when does the contents of /temp/ gets deleted?
[04:25] <theadmin> faint545: /tmp, you mean?
[04:25] <theadmin> faint545: On reboot.
[04:25] <faint545> theadmin, er, yeah..
[04:25] <theadmin> faint545: And some programs clear it themselves, too.
[04:25] <escott> faint545, /tmp usually on reboot
[04:25] <faint545> gotcha, thx
[04:26] <theadmin> faint545: If you want, you can add something like "@hourly rm -r /tmp/*" to crontab to clean it hourly, however it can break things
[04:26] <escott> faint545, you may have a tmpfs (ram disk) on /tmp
[04:29] <theadmin> Woah
[04:33] <endip> Hey all, which question: I'm trying to compile a driver from source. I'm using command: sudo ./autorun.sh and I'm getting "sudo: ./autorun.sh: command not found" - who can tell me why I might be getting this error?
[04:33] <bazhang> endip, what driver, and for what
[04:34] <escott> endip, do you need to be root to compile it? you probably need to give the full path
[04:36] <endip> bazhang, the realtek nic RTL8111 driver called R8168
[04:37] <endip> escott, I don't know if I need to be root. I'm in the directory that the file is in, but I don't know if I need to give the full path. I thought maybe gcc doesn't come with Ubuntu 11.04 install, but I appear to have it installed so that's not it.
[04:37] <bazhang> http://wookie.co.nz/wordpress/rebuild-realtek-r8168-module-for-ubuntu/  endip this one?
[04:38] <endip> bazhang, Yeah, that's the driver.
[04:38] <kiaas> Trying to figure out how to disable PowerMizer in the nvidia binary drivers, google isn't linking me to anything up to date.
[04:40] <endip> bazhang, Those instructions say that after i unzip it (which I've already done) i should  "make clean modules" and "make install". Are those commands?
[04:41] <efsanecabadak> selam am var mý ya
[04:42] <endip> bazhang, I was following instructions from another post online. Someone who fixed the same problem I'm having by blacklisting a driver and installing another. I'm stuck at the compiling part.
[04:42] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/208012 endip this may help a bit
[04:43] <endip> bazhang, Yeah, I think that will help. Let me try those commands.
[04:44] <nhocht> hello
[04:44] <nhocht> how could install wireless for ubuntu11.04
[04:44] <nhocht> !wireless
[04:46] <TBotNik> Guys: Reading the HOWTOs supposed to be able to hit "ESC" @ grub prompt or "SHIFT" during boot progress screen and get to boot option screen where "e" to edit can be executed.  Problem is I don't get a GRUB prompt and the "SHIFT" during load progress does not work.  Since I can not login to my box, how do I get around this?
[04:46] <bazhang> nhocht, what chipset, pci or usb
[04:46] <TBotNik> All: Maybe I should ask, How do I get the GRUB prompt back?
[04:47] <rww> TBotNik: when your BIOS screen pops up after you press the power button, hold down shift. continue holding down shift. GRUB should pop up.
[04:47] <rww> If you get to the plymouth boot splash thing, you did it wrong.
[04:47] <TBotNik> rww: Think I already stated "that doesn't work", but if not here it is again.
[04:48] <rww> TBotNik: I read what you said. You're doing it at the wrong time if it's not working :P
[04:49] <TBotNik> rww: Anyway I want it to alway show, not have to worry about holding a key "at the right time" since that does not work at all on this box.  Tried it at least 20 times now and nothing.
[04:50] <ejv> hello, usb keyboard doesn't work at grub bootloader, how do I correct this?
[04:50] <TBotNik> rww: I know there is a setting for how many seconds it will show.  Do you know the setting?
[04:50] <endip> bazhang, Those instructions aren't working.  (I wish knew the ins-and-outs of compiling.) I don't know how to frickin' compile these drivers and none of the instructions I've found inline is working.
[04:50] <rww> TBotNik: I forget, but if you're using GRUB 2, it's in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:51] <TBotNik> rww: Someone has this box set to "0" seconds show time, that is why does not show and pressing ESC or SHIFT not working.
[04:51] <bazhang> endip, whats the error or errors you are getting
[04:52] <LachlanH> What's the easiest way to allow me to exceed the virtual screen size when using dual monitors?
[04:52] <TBotNik> rww: On liveCD but just installed grub, and have it up.
[04:52] <dsnyders> !tftp
[04:53] <Clowerweb> anyone else having a problem booting into 3.0 kernel?
[04:53] <rww> Clowerweb: No released versions of Ubuntu use Linux 3.0, so it isn't supported here.
[04:53] <endip> bazhang, I can't cut and paste them for you because I can't connect to the internet on the PC that's having problems. But I can tell you that when I type this command: sudo make clean modules, I get a long list of make [1], make[2[], and some say No such file or directory, ando ther say, No rule to make taget '/src/makefile', and "error 2", etc.
[04:54] <ejv> anyone know how to get the bootloader to recognize my usb keyboard... this is somewhat critical... lol
[04:54] <ejv> can't really choose what to boot into without this functionality...
[04:54] <endip> bazhang, So, I'm getting three different errors when attempting to run "make clean modules"
[04:54] <Dulak> ejv: switch legacy usb in the bios from OS to BIOS, save, reboot
[04:55] <ejv> wt... there's a bios option?
[04:55] <theadmin> ejv: Yeah
[04:55]  * ejv sighs
[04:55] <theadmin> ejv: Most of the time. Too easy?
[04:55] <ejv> ok thank you gentlemen, i shall return
[04:55] <Dulak> ejv: yes, you have it set to OS instead of BIOS
[04:55] <ejv> roger that
[04:55] <corinth> Changing the touchpad sensitivity in the mouse settings doesn't seem to affect my touchpad speed. Any suggestions?
[04:55]  * ejv salutes
[04:56] <endip> bazhang, There's a dir with "Makefile" in it....is that something that will help me compile the driver?
[04:57] <nhocht> hi
[04:58] <nhocht> i am not install wireless card for 11.04?
[04:58] <bazhang> nhocht, what chipset pci or usb
[04:58] <bazhang> !compile | endip please have a read
[04:58] <ejv> successful, thanks again fellas, usb stuff was disabled in the BIOS
[04:58] <ejv> too easy indeed
[04:58] <nhocht>  Subsystem: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 AGN
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 48
  Memory at f4700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
  Capabilities: <access denied>
  Kernel driver in use: iwlagn
  Kernel modules: iwlagn
[04:58] <FloodBot1> nhocht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <theadmin> ejv: Heh
[04:59] <ejv> not that I don't love ubuntu as the default option... but cmon, once and a while I need to game on the windows partition
[04:59] <TBotNik> rww: Do you have a HOWTO for grub vs grub2?
[05:00] <ejv> ubuntu probably set the bios option quietly, as part of it's overlord master control subroutines for world domination
[05:00] <rww> TBotNik: I have our documentation on GRUB and on GRUB2. That's about it. GRUB2's, you have. GRUB's is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:00] <theadmin> ejv: Well, that makes sense xD If you want to change the default option by the way there's a few tools for that, or you can just edit grub.cfg
[05:00] <Dulak> ejv: no it's off by default like that in most bioses, since they expect you are on windows
[05:00] <TBotNik> reading
[05:01] <ejv> i kid i kid ;)
[05:01] <endip> bazhang, Thanks, I'll read through that when I get a chance
[05:01] <bazhang> theadmin, you dont edit that directly
[05:01] <nhocht>  8086:4237
[05:01] <theadmin> bazhang: I'm not really familiar with GRUB2...
[05:01] <ejv> real men edit configs directly! with vi! one handed!
[05:01] <ejv> as root even!
[05:01] <bazhang> theadmin, best to read the factoid then before suggesting that
[05:01] <wols_> nhocht: it helps if you actually state a problem and ask a question
[05:01] <theadmin> ejv: I use vim rather than vi, but yah
[05:01] <theadmin> bazhang: idk, I think Ubuntu is the only distro with GRUB2 by default *eyeroll*
[05:02] <wols_> theadmin: no. all of the newer ones changed afaik
[05:02] <theadmin> wols_: Arch still hasn't :) And I think that's the right choice. Even tho they already have got Gnome3 etc
[05:02] <bazhang> theadmin, you're in #ubuntu , please check the factoid before dispensing advice on it
[05:03] <theadmin> bazhang: Okay, okay, but I remember editing grub.cfg myself and not causing any harm
[05:03] <ejv> serious question guys, I had a server malfunction this week, my AMD motherboard and AMD cpu are probably toast, I ordered a replacement, all AMD parts, can I expect to just plug in the drives and go go go...?
[05:03] <theadmin> ejv: Likely
[05:03] <theadmin> ejv: Windows can break tho
[05:03] <ejv> this is a seperate server, completely ubuntu
[05:03] <theadmin> ejv: Ah, okay
[05:03] <theadmin> ejv: Then no worries needed I guess
[05:03] <Seanmc98|mobile> Does anyone in here use heimdall for the SGS phone?
[05:04] <ejv> ok cool
[05:04] <ejv> i hope my data survived
[05:04] <asdjaputra> Seanmc98|mobile, not the right place
[05:04] <theadmin> ejv: Except Linux and AMD aren't really friendly... At least when it comes to videocards
[05:04] <wols_> theadmin: you will cause harm as soon as any new kernel update is installed
[05:04] <ejv> it's a server, so i couldn't care less :)
[05:04] <OY1R> why is it that i only get connected with DHCP and not static IP ? (I disconnected again)
[05:04] <wols_> theadmin: another thing you got wrong
[05:04] <Seanmc98|mobile> I was asking because id they did I was going to ask them to help me to install it asdjaputra
[05:05] <theadmin> wols_: It'll overwrite grub.cfg, yes, so what? It's not harm...
[05:05] <bazhang> Seanmc98|mobile, what does it have to with ubuntu
[05:05] <Seanmc98|mobile> Because heimdall was made for ubuntu that's why
[05:05] <asdjaputra> #android
[05:05] <Seanmc98|mobile> No
[05:05] <dsnyders> ejv, Unless they are the same motherboards, you might have difficulties with networking, video, and sound.
[05:05] <magn3ts> DAE have major A/V sync problems with VLC that they didn't have (a while ago)
[05:05] <theadmin> asdjaputra: /join #android
[05:05] <Seanmc98|mobile> #ubuntu
[05:06] <asdjaputra> theadmin, k
[05:06] <asdjaputra> Seanmc98|mobile, SGS=Samsung Galaxy S?
[05:06] <Seanmc98|mobile> Yes
[05:06] <Dulak> ejv: if you are using a default kernel image you should have no issues moving drives to the new hardware
[05:06] <rww> Seanmc98|mobile: Hi. Can you join #ubuntu-ops, please?
[05:06] <theadmin> asdjaputra, Seanmc98|mobile move to #android please
[05:07] <theadmin> rww: And what's that for? o_O
[05:07] <ejv> dulak, thx for the reassurance :)
[05:07] <Dulak> ejv: if you custom compiled your kernel and only included drivers for the existing hardware, that would be a different story
[05:07] <asdjaputra> theadmin, sorry he was asking and i said this is not the right place
[05:09] <OY1R> Doh!
[05:10] <javier> help...i have been trying, all day, on getting 11.04 on my htpc with windows 7
[05:11] <javier> please
[05:11] <OY1R> can someone send me a file here in irc just for a test.
[05:11] <kevin_> i need some LTSP help...can someone PM me if they are willing to help?
[05:11] <centHOGG> javier: tried xbmc yet
[05:11] <javier> I had it on windows 7
[05:12] <javier> now I can't get 11.07 installed and its been 11 hours
[05:13] <endip> Is anyone here familiar with installing LAN drivers?
[05:13] <centHOGG> yeah i think so
[05:13] <kevin_> anyone here familiar with using LTSP?
[05:13] <Seanmc98|mobile> Is there a way to speed up the boot time on 11.04 im counting 35+ seconds on boot. I have heard of one member having. A 16 second boot time
[05:15] <javier> can anyone help me
[05:15] <ejv> !ask | javier
[05:15] <theadmin> javier: Probably, you have to ask your question
[05:17] <Derpadong> So, whats everyone using for an IRC client?
[05:17] <kevin_> ok, Im trying to setup a LTSP server. I followed the instructions on the help.ubuntu.com website. After setting up everything i went to test it and my client never got the DHCP request. Can anyone help me on this issue?
[05:18] <OY1R> Derpadong, xchat here
[05:18] <rww> !poll | Derpadong
[05:18] <javier> I have had zero ability in getting natty installed through wubi for 64 bit. Can I get some guidance? I keep getting an error that says error line 46 cannot find sda/dev0
[05:19] <dsnyders> javier, Are you sure your machine is a 64bit machine?
[05:19] <ugly_duck> i would like to get the sound working on railway tycoon 2, anyone played it before?
[05:20] <oscalation> if i want to dual boot between ubuntu and another linux distro, i currently have only ubuntu installed on a portion of my hdd, how difficult will it be to install and set up the other boot options ?
[05:20] <javier> yes. I built it. gigabyte 880G mobo, phenom II 560 amd processor
[05:20] <javier> currently running windows ulitmate 64
[05:20] <wols_> oscalation: not difficult. to make it easier I suggest installing one of the grub loaders to a partition instead of the MBR and chainloading it from the main grub installation
[05:21] <oscalation> wols_, i dont follow
[05:21] <wols_> ugly_duck: does sound work in normal wine or is it a linux game?
[05:21] <dsnyders> javier, you could try a USB booted linux.   www.pendrivelinux.com
[05:21] <javier> I don't have a usb stick
[05:21] <javier> I have followed all the youtube videos, and I can't get it to work
[05:22] <endip> How can I check to see if I have Make installed?
[05:22] <javier> I have a C drive (1 sata) and a D drive (1 other sata)
[05:22] <Seanmc98|mobile> Is there a way to make the boot time faster on 11.04?
[05:22] <luckysmack> endip, which make
[05:22] <endip> luckman212_, I don't know, any one.
[05:22] <Seanmc98|mobile> Duckfd: are you in?
[05:22] <luckysmack> endip, i mean run that command. 'which make'
[05:22] <wols_> Seanmc98|mobile: make it load less stuff on bootup
[05:22] <endip> luckman212_, oh.
[05:22] <javier> I have partitioned via windows, tried to use wubi to install on one of the partitions, and continuously get the error
[05:23] <wols_> endip: install build-essential
[05:23] <endip> luckysmack, Ok, I guess I have it installed
[05:23] <kevin_> ok, Im trying to setup a LTSP server. I followed the instructions on the help.ubuntu.com website. After setting up everything i went to test it and my client never got the DHCP request. Can anyone help me on this issue?
[05:23] <corinth> Changing the touchpad sensitivity in the mouse settings doesn't seem to affect my touchpad speed. Any suggestions?
[05:23] <javier> I went through the cd, and created the root space, swap space, and got through the install, and then my boot got screwed
[05:23] <oscalation> wols_, care to walk me through that ?
[05:23] <luckysmack> endip, you can do that for any command to find that info on it. same thing for 'where make' to show where the binary is
[05:23] <endip> wols: "Missing destination file operand after 'build-essential'
[05:23] <javier> so I recovered my boot with the windows cd
[05:24] <javier> and am back to windows
[05:24] <luckysmack> endip, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[05:24] <dsnyders> javier, any reason you're going with wubi rather than the standard CD install?
[05:25] <ugly_duck> wols_: its complaining about dsp or something, but the sound modules have change to alsa now or somnething right
[05:25] <javier> dual boot inside windows
[05:25] <endip> luckysmack, I can't connect to the internet. I'm trying to install a RealTek driver so I can get connected.
[05:25] <endip> luckysmack, I'm having a hell of a time installing this driver. So far every set of instructions I've followed hasn't worked on my system.
[05:25] <luckysmack> ah then yea youll need to connect before you can do that. but if you have make you may already have build essential.
[05:26] <endip> luckysmack, Does Ubuntu come with kernal sources?
[05:26] <wols_> endip: do you know how to install things in ubuntu?
[05:26] <dsnyders> javier, Perhaps a virtual machine?
[05:26] <luckysmack> im not too familiar with installing those. havent had my nic not be supported
[05:27] <endip> wols: Yeah. But you can't install this realtek nic driver through the repos. You hav e to download and compile it.
[05:28] <wols_> endip: then install build-essential. if you still get an error, paste your command and its output in a pastebin
[05:28] <wols_> and I doubt you need a special driver for realtek ethernet. for wlan fine, for ethernet, no
[05:28] <pirata> hi
[05:28] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you enable write capabilities on tftpd-hda?
[05:28] <wols_> dsnyders: why would you need that?
[05:29] <pirata> somebody know some channel to chat in spanish, please
[05:29] <wols_> !es | pirata
[05:29] <dsnyders> wols_, so that I can copy cisco router configurations from one router to another.
[05:29] <endip> wols: Dude, I can't connect to the internet on my PC that I'm trying to build the drivers on, so I can't paste to pastebin.
[05:30] <wols_> endip: if you are too lazy to type ~2 lines, then I am too lazy to help you. I call it "fair play"
[05:30] <endip> luckysmack,  Do you know if Ubuntu 11.04 comes with the kernal sources?
[05:31] <endip> wols: I didn't realize it was only two lines. figured it would be more than that.
[05:31] <luckysmack> no im not sure.
[05:31] <ejv> does netflix work under ubuntu?
[05:32] <osmosis> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on my samsung series 9.  Freezes halfway throught the install.  Tried 3 times. Any suggestions?
[05:32] <endip> wols: I'll have to download build-essentials on a USB drive and then transfer the file over and install it on my PC. It will take a few minutes. k
[05:32] <rww> endip: No, they don't come with the kernel sources. Nowhere near enough space on the CD.
[05:32] <luckysmack> on the web? i dont think so. license issues
[05:32] <corinth> ejv, Not yet. It will "soon," though. Through Chromium.
[05:32] <ejv> :(
[05:32] <endip> rww: thanks
[05:32] <wols_> endip: build-essential consists of 10-20 packages
[05:32] <javier> can someone help me get through an install from the live cd? I am supposed to get an option where I can install alongside windows, and I don't get that option. I get erase or do somethin else
[05:32] <wols_> endip: you either have it on your ubuntu cd itself or you will be in trouble
[05:33] <luckysmack> ejv, chromium is going to support the streaming?
[05:33] <ejv> no idea
[05:33] <corinth> javier, Run the CD in Windows. Then it will give you that option.
[05:33] <javier> I am redownloading the 64bit ISO to burn, again
[05:33] <ejv> i asked lol
[05:33] <luckysmack> oops i meant corinth ^^
[05:33] <rww> ejv: I'm skeptical of this whole "it will work soon" thing, btw. Netflix says 12 months from now. I say "lol ok".
[05:33] <wols_> endip: well you can use apt-zip or such. but: I seriously doubt you can only go online with a specially compiled driver. just because you read that somehwere on the internet, doesn't make it true. but your choice what work you want to do
[05:34] <endip> wols: if it's on my ubuntu cd would it have been installed?
[05:34] <corinth> luckysmack, Yep, it was announced in May. Netflix is working on an html5 stream through Chrome, and it'll work in Chromium in Linux.
[05:34] <cpolis> nrails
[05:34] <endip> wols: What do you mean?
[05:34] <javier> I have tried before, and I get options to run demo or full install, which requires a reboot with the live cd, and I got hosed becuase my boot got got messed up and just got windows back  using windows repair
[05:34] <endip> wols: Is there another way?
[05:34] <wols_> endip: since you don't tell us about the problem in a meaningful way, no one can tell
[05:34] <luckysmack> corinth, oh ok. how will they secure it with html5 i wonder? i thought they said they would never support it since you can just download it. interesting
[05:35] <javier> i am still wondering why I can't get the wubi  method to work
[05:35] <corinth> javier, Try downloading the Wubi tool from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[05:35] <javier> yeah, wubi isn't working for me either
[05:35] <corinth> luckysmack, probably the same way that Hulu secured its streams in html5.
[05:35] <corinth> I don't know how it's done, just that it can be done.
[05:36] <luckysmack> oh, i thought they used flash. i hadnt noticed. i dont actually use it much
[05:36] <javier> wubi gets me to this error (error line 46: cannot find sda/dev0)
[05:36] <pp7>  corinth: erm netflix works on ubuntu?
[05:36] <endip> wols: this is a known issue going back 4 years. Realtek RTL8111 NIC cards don't work. Everywhere online says to install the unix/linux drivers from RealTek, except there are several different ways to install it based on the veersion of the driver. I'm trying to follow some instructions I found online that look like they will work for me.
[05:36] <corinth> javier, Does it give you the option to Ignore/Continue?
[05:36] <corinth> pp7, Not yet, but soon. Netflix is working on streaming in html5 through Chrome.
[05:36] <javier> no. it says boot back into windows. run chkdsk /r and then continue
[05:37] <pp7> ah nice
[05:37] <pp7> i'll forget buying that roku box then :)
[05:37] <endip> wols: http://goo.gl/EvaOh here's a link to the instructions I'm following.
[05:37] <corinth> javier, Run Wubi from within Windows.
[05:37] <wols_> endip: there is no realtek 8111 card. identify your chip better
[05:37] <javier> Ok, i will do it again. and I will write the error I get
[05:38] <wols_> endip: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
[05:38] <endip> wols: http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/installing-realtek-rtl8111/3906?s=803715001fc9158faa843b501a784b5f&amp;
[05:38] <javier> Ok. I have wubi open. I am going to install on C:
[05:39] <endip> wols: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168
[05:39] <wols_> endip: this is for a kernel 2.6.18. that is 4 years ago. this thing is rubbish
[05:39] <corinth> Sounds good, javier. Just go through the instructions, and you should be fine.
[05:39] <javier> we will see. This is my tenth time doing the same thing
[05:40] <endip> wols: Ok, do you have any other suggestions?
[05:40] <wols_> endip: what is your actual hardware. there is no rtl8111 directly
[05:41] <endip> wols: is there a command I can type in that will tell me exactly what it is?
[05:41] <wols_> lspci
[05:41] <wols_> lspci -nn  rather
[05:42] <oscalation> wols_, do i just start the installation from the new linux distro and create a new partion ?
[05:42] <wols_> oscalation: you install by putting in a CD and boot from it most time. but it depends on the distro you install what to do. how is this all relevant to ubuntu?
[05:43] <endip> wols: here's the output 02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[05:43] <wols_> oscalation: just have a boot media for each distro you want to install. that way if anything goes wrong you still have a way fix things
[05:43] <wols_> endip: use the 2nd command I gave you. the numbers at the end are important
[05:44] <endip> wols: it says the same thing for the ethernet controller
[05:45] <javier> restarting
[05:46] <wols_> endip: no it does not
[05:46] <endip> wols: hold on, let me give you a screen shot.
[05:46] <wols_> endip: 0:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Device [1a55:0005]   see these numbers at the end. if you don't see them you use the command wrong
[05:48] <bloopletech> I've just upgraded to natty, and now if I run 'gnome-open xxx.html' in the terminal, nautilus tries to open it as a folder instead of opening it in chrome or firefox
[05:48] <bloopletech> Is there a way I can edit the file handlers to fix this?
[05:49] <gry> bloopletech: What does it do if you click the file?
[05:49] <endip> wols: http://img64.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img64/1023/screenshotcli.png
[05:49] <bloopletech> gry double-clicking correctly opens it in chrome
[05:49] <bloopletech> a similar thing also happens with deb files
[05:49] <endip> wols: that's a screenshot from my current terminal. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
[05:50] <m4k> hi I'm not able to connect to the wifi network in my ubuntu 11.04
[05:50] <Lasers> bloopletech: xdg-open XXX.html -- Try that
[05:50] <wols_> bloopletech: 10ec:8168  which your writing did not contain. so when you boot normally, lsmod |grep 81   does it show a r816* module? and when you run ifconfig -a   does it show a ethX somewhere?
[05:50] <bloopletech> wols_: wut
[05:51] <endip> wols: Did I miss that [10ec:8168] ??
[05:51] <endip> wols: is that the important part?
[05:51] <gry> bloopletech: Well.  It works for me. What do you see when you type ``gnome-open --version''?
[05:51] <Guest29749> ok
[05:51] <wols_> endip: do what I told you
[05:51] <javier> so there was an installation there before, and now wubi is stuck at and wont remove due to an error that says stdout can not be foudn
[05:51] <wols_> bloopletech: sorry, mistyped
[05:51] <bloopletech> Lasers: I get the same error dialog box
[05:52] <gry> m4k: What do you try?  What do you get?
[05:52] <bloopletech> gry: I get 'GNOME gnome-url-show 2.32.1'
[05:52] <Guest29749> So I have downloaded and installed the Nvidia drivers for my laptop and restarted my laptop now the laptop is not booting.
[05:52] <gry> bloopletech: Do you have this issue for a freshly creater new user on the system?
[05:52] <gry> -r+d
[05:52] <wols_> Guest29749: from nvidia.com?
[05:52] <Guest29749> gets to skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox
[05:53] <endip> wols: What? The command? lspci -nn ?
[05:53] <m4k> @gry I see the ssid in my manager but when i click it doesnt connect after sometime it stops
[05:53] <bloopletech> gry: I suppose I can have a look and see
[05:53] <Guest29749> from the drivers tool in ubuntu
[05:53] <wols_> endip:  so when you boot normally, lsmod |grep 81   does it show a r816* module? and when you run ifconfig -a   does it show a ethX somewhere?
[05:53] <Guest29749> wols_
[05:53] <endip> wols: I did that command
[05:53] <gry> bloopletech: ok
[05:53] <m4k> grr: same laptop with windows 7 it works
[05:53] <endip> wols: When I run ifconfig -a it shows a eth1, yes.
[05:54] <endip> wols: let me check the other.
[05:54] <m4k> gry: same laptop with windows 7 it works
[05:54] <Guest29749> how do I troubleshoot startup issues? is there a way to get verbose output?
[05:54] <Lasers> bloopletech: I'm booting up. I think you want to look at the file in ~/.config/somewhere/somewhere -- I don't know where. :O
[05:54] <Guest29749> where is the old xterm config located?
[05:54] <wols_> endip: then your driver is already working (which is normal for realtek ethernet)
[05:55] <endip> wols: lsmod | grep 81 gives me r8169
[05:55] <gry> !wifi | m4k, please look at troubleshooting guides here, I think they might be useful:
[05:55] <kevin_> can anyone help me with setting up my dhcp server
[05:55] <Lasers> bloopletech: Look and (remove?) $HOME/.local/share/applications
[05:56] <gry> kevin_: What did you try so far?
[05:56] <wols_> kevin_: as your real question. never ask if anyone can help
[05:56] <endip> wols: Ok, well that's good to know. Thank you!
[05:56] <kevin_> noted
[05:57] <m4k> gry: thanks looking at it
[05:57] <kevin_> im trying to setup a dhcp server to create a Terminal Server and im having trouble starting it
[05:57] <endip> Wols, the problem that I'm having then, must be something else. 'Cause the "Wired Network" option in the upper right corner in Ubuntu is greyed out. And It tries to connect for a while and then stops and says I'm disconnected.
[05:57] <bloopletech> gry: It prompted me to select my preferred file manager, and after that had the same issue as before
[05:57] <gry> m4k: ok
[05:58] <wols_> endip: unplug your cable then plug it back in. then run "dmesg" and check the last few lines and what it says
[05:58] <endip> wolsk
[05:58] <endip> wols: k
[05:58] <gry> bloopletech: Interesting.  Does the file have a proper icon?
[05:58] <kevin_> the dhcp server should be distributing out on the "eth0" interface
[05:59] <kevin_> how would i go about doing that?
[05:59] <bloopletech> gry: I just made an empty file called temp.html
[05:59] <gry> bloopletech: Right click the file, click |Open with -> Other application....|, select Firefox and tick the "remember" box at the dialog bottom.  Then try to run the gnome-open command for that file again.
[05:59] <wols_> kevin_: set up a static ip on eth. install dnsmasq and edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to enable the dhcp server. done
[06:00] <wols_> *static ip on eth0
[06:00] <bloopletech> gry: already did, I'm going to try removing some of these ones Lasers suggested
[06:00] <endip> wols: r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth1: link down   [line break]  r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth1: link up
[06:00] <gry> bloopletech: Good luck - I would be surprised that a new user on the system does not fix the issue then, but it might be worth a try.
[06:00] <bloopletech> brb
[06:01] <Lasers> gry: That's a hack.
[06:01] <javier> wubi says ubuntu installed. I dont get an option to boot to ubuntu
[06:01] <gry> Lasers: Whatever default settings it would start using and not apply them to a new user, is odd.
[06:02] <wols_> endip: so you have a connection just fine. hardware works totally. I dunno why nm doesn't connect. my thinking is cause nm is a POS software which I don't like or suppport it
[06:02] <wols_> endip: for a quick+dirty test, sudo dhclient eth1 should give you an IP
[06:03] <javier> anyone? I can;t select ubuntu when system restarts
[06:03] <Lasers> javier: When you boot, what do you get?
[06:04] <javier> starting windows
[06:04] <endip> wols: sudo dhclient eth1  is just hanging.  The terminal went to a new line and there was no output.
[06:04] <magn3ts> yeah, every video I play back has unsynced audio
[06:04] <endip> wols: ok. Now a I have a prompt again. No output from sudo dhclient eth1
[06:04] <Boomboy> javier: Are you sure bios is looking for ubuntu cd?
[06:04] <kevin_> wols_, Thank you very much
[06:04] <kevin_> it worked
[06:04] <Lasers> javier: Dualboot? Wubi? Did you install or you're about to?
[06:05] <javier> I am in windows. should I uninstall via wubi and restart
[06:05] <javier> trying to dual boot windows 7 and natty
[06:05] <wols_> endip: check "ifconfig" again, your eth1 might have a IP now
[06:06] <javier> so should I uninstall reboot and retry
[06:07] <javier> nevermind, I can't unistall. I get an error that a file can't be found
[06:07] <javier> so what should I do?
[06:08] <Lasers> javier: The safe route to try out Ubuntu would be to install VirtualBox on Windows and go from there.
[06:08] <Lasers> javier: or a LiveCD -- where you can experiment with things.
[06:09] <endip> wols: When I did ifconfig I got an eth1 with nothing that resembles an IP, and an eth1:avahi with an inet addr that looks like a regular IP. Should I have both an eth1 and an eth1:avahi ?
[06:09] <javier> i have ubuntu on my laptop which is why I have been trying so desperately today
[06:09] <javier> and I am getting to the point where I want to throw up
[06:10] <Lasers> javier: I'm not a fan of Wubi. If you insist on having Ubuntu + Windows, try uninstalling & reinstalling Wubi.  Dualboot is an another option.
[06:10] <javier> so how do I uninstall ubuntu when file for deletion can be found
[06:11] <hamnegga> javier, trying so desperately to do what?
[06:11] <javier> dual boot
[06:11] <javier> going on 13 hours
[06:11] <hamnegga> yeah
[06:12] <hamnegga> anything less is a disgrace to your hardware
[06:12] <wols_> endip: at this to your /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/125245/
[06:12] <endip> wols: k
[06:12] <wols_> endip: then run "sudo ifup eth1". this configures your eth1 to be managed via /etc/network/interfaces and not network manager and it tells it to get an IP via DHCP
[06:13] <mystiqueba> I can't use the Ubuntu Software Center it says "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired.  Do you want to repair it now?" But then when I click on repair, I get "Package operation failed"
[06:13] <javier> so, i am now rebooting. I will start from scratch, and yu can all see my pain
[06:15] <javier> wubi downloaded. being run as an administrator,and currently installing
[06:15] <wols_> mystiqueba: run sudo  apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <mystiqueba> wols, I'm getting some errors from libreoffice b'cos I previously removed it and tried reinstalling
[06:17] <endip> wols: sudo ifup eth1 returned grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No Such file or directory -- What did I do wrong?
[06:18] <wolter> how do I check the sanity of a package?
[06:18] <mystiqueba> wols_, here's the exact errors message I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/659756/
[06:19] <gry> wolter: Is it one you packaged?
[06:19] <wolter> gry, no, its zenity
[06:19] <wolter> gry, I was missing zenity.ui file
[06:19] <Chat1314> hello?
[06:19] <gry> Hi.
[06:19] <wols_> endip: that's your DNS resolver. not much. doesn't matter right now can be fixed later if it's a problem. do you know have an ip for eth1?
[06:19] <wolter> gry, reinstalling worked, but I would like to know how to
[06:20] <wolter> ls
[06:20] <wolter> oops haha
[06:20] <wols_> mystiqueba: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:21] <m4k> gry: I wasn't able to solve the issue here is my sudo lshw -C network output http://paste2.org/p/1567003
[06:21] <wols_> *do you now
[06:21] <wols_> !ralink
[06:22] <javier> installed, rebooted,chose ubuntu, splash screen
[06:23] <mystiqueba> wols_, I'm still getting an error with libreoffice.  how do I totally purge that program?
[06:23] <javier> this is the 10th time i get this error
[06:24] <wols_> !errors | mystiqueba
[06:24] <javier> could not find the iso
[06:24] <endip> wols: it's the same as before. When I type ifconfig I get info for eth1, eth1:avahi and lo. eth1 has a line that says inet6 addr: fe80::d227:88ff:fe63:3d96/64 -- not a regular ip address. eth1:avahi says inet addr:169.254.7.67
[06:24] <gry> m4k: It seems to recognise the hardware O.K. What is "ifconfig" output? (Also, please ask the channel, don't address me in particular. I would be more happy to have everybody help you than just me - I'm quite new here.)
[06:25] <javier> i thought the whole point of wubi was to download the iso
[06:25] <mystiqueba> wols_, here's the error I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/659758/
[06:25] <wols_> endip: both mean "couldn't get an IP frm dhcp server". you do have a router which hands out IP addresses, right?
[06:25] <wols_> mystiqueba: there was more than that
[06:25] <endip> wols: Yes, I have 3 other computers on it right now. They all have IP address and are connected normally.
[06:26] <haresh> hello how can i upgrade to the latest 11.04\
[06:26] <javier> any ideas
[06:26] <Lasers> !upgrade | haresh
[06:26] <theadmin> haresh: Just saying, an upgrade is a very bad idea in Ubuntu. Best option is a reinstall.
[06:26] <theadmin> haresh: However, if you do wish to upgrade, read the instructions given.
[06:27] <gry> theadmin: Is this true for upgrade from any version, or just from a very old version to the latest one?
[06:27] <Lasers> javier: The best course to have Ubuntu and preserve Windows 100%?  Get another hard drive. Install Ubuntu on that one. Keep things simple and separate (from each others).
[06:27] <wols_> endip: "link up" in dmesg clearly shows it has a physical connection to the router. I dunno why avahi has a different interface tho
[06:27] <mystiqueba> wols_, you're right, here's the entire msg I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/659759/
[06:27] <javier> i have another hard drive
[06:27] <e01> hello
[06:27] <wols_> endip: and the chip itself works fine out of the box. I have the same on my mobo. bascially most/all mobos have this ethernet chip
[06:27] <Lasers> gry: Any upgrade. Even there are reports of issues from Snow Leopard (to Lion).
[06:27] <gry> e01: Hello there.
[06:27] <javier> how do i set up ubuntu to be on that drive and not screw up my boot again
[06:28] <e01> is there way to restore deleted files from ext3 partition, but with folder structure
[06:28] <endip> wols: ok. does it matter that I'm running ubuntu from a USB flash drive? (I don't know why it would, but that's the only thing I'm doing differently.)
[06:28] <m4k> hi I'm not able to connect to the wifi here is my output of "sudo lshw -C network", "lspci -nn" and "ifconfig" http://paste2.org/p/1567016
[06:28] <wols_> !info openoffice.org-debian-menus
[06:28] <endip> wols: Should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[06:29] <wols_> mystiqueba: what ubuntu are you running exactly? and where did you install this openoffice-debian-menus from?
[06:29] <haresh> i cant connect to my wired network
[06:29] <x_> irc.spotchat.org
[06:30] <micah> please someone I need help with chromium
[06:30] <x_> sup
[06:30] <Blue1> !net
[06:30] <csdserver> haresh, can you ping your router?
[06:30] <Lasers> javier: With GUI installer, it will tell you hard drives (name and size?). Pick Ubuntu on that new/empty hard drive. It'll also ask you about grub. You decide. Or you can do physical cable switch (Lulz?)
[06:30] <Blue1> !microsoft net frame
[06:30] <haresh> nope
[06:30] <wols_> mystiqueba: dpkg -r <each libreoffice package>
[06:31] <micah> can anyone help with chromium?
[06:31] <x_> join/ irc.spotchat.org
[06:31] <Boomboy> micah: Please ask your question. Someone might
[06:31] <Lasers> x_: Please don't do that here.
[06:31] <endip> wols: does it matter that my ethernet controller is a RTL8111/8168B and the driver that's loading is a R8169? 'Cause there are a bunch of forums that indicate this is a problem.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1661489.html  -- I don't know, I'm just pitchin' ideas at this point.
[06:31] <wols_> endip: I wouldn't. but it's kinda hard to debug the issue over the internet
[06:31] <endip> wols: I understand.
[06:31] <micah> when I try to play runescape it says missing plugins
[06:31] <x_> do what lasers
[06:31] <wols_> endip: has your wired network ever worked there? and if it has, what did you change that it doesn't work anymore?
[06:31] <endip> wols: you wouldn't reinstall ubuntu?? Is that what you're sayin?
[06:32] <x_> server/ irc.spotchat.org
[06:32] <Lasers> x_: Advertising. Spam.
[06:32] <wols_> endip: no. there are various ethernet controllers with slightly different names like that
[06:32] <x_> im trying to join the channel
[06:32] <wols_> yes I wouldn't reinstall it
[06:32] <Lasers> x_: /server irc.spotchat.org
[06:32] <micah> I need help chromium says missing plugins when i try to play an online game
[06:32] <wols_> x_: /server irc.spotchat.org
[06:33] <wols_> x_: and then /join #linuxmint   or whatever
[06:33] <wols_> !errors | micah
[06:33] <HackNewton> hi guys can anyone tell me where can i find BGI file for C program in ubuntu
[06:33] <micah> I did explain my problem
[06:33] <endip> wols: My wired network works. In fact, if I unplug the desktop I'm having trouble with, and plug the same cable into my laptop it works fine on my laptop. But I just put up this new box today, and as soon as I plugged in the cable I noticed it wouldn't connect and the gui indicators in ubuntu act like I don't have a wired connection at all.
[06:33] <Lasers> micah: Flash installed?
[06:34] <micah> says plash and java is enabled
[06:34] <micah> flash*
[06:34] <micah> It runs off java
[06:34] <wols_> HackNewton: nowhere. BGI is for Borland compilers under DOS. doesn't exist for linux
[06:35] <HackNewton> oh any alternative ?
[06:35] <wols_> endip: dhclient eth1
[06:35] <wols_> HackNewton: SDL. but for it to work you need to rewrite your C program
[06:35] <mystiqueba> wols_, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and I had to manually install the "real" OpenOffice from their website.  That's why I got rid of libreoffice.  Btw, what exactly do I use for "<each libreoffice package>."  I'm a total newbie
[06:36] <micah> libreoffice sucks
[06:36] <csdserver> haresh, do you have access to your router configuration from another device on the network?
[06:36] <endip> wols: k
[06:36] <micah> i switched back to 10.04 cause it has open office
[06:36] <wols_> mystiqueba: now you see why installing stuff frm 3rd parties and PPAs is a bad idea
[06:36] <HackNewton> ok thanks wols_
[06:36] <wols_> mystiqueba: dpkg -l |grep libreoffice   all of those packages. alternatively  dpkg -l |grep openoffice   all of them
[06:36] <mystiqueba> wols_, yeah.  But Openoffice had always been the standard so I don't see why it's such a big deal
[06:36] <wols_> micromatikal: libreoffice is the same as openoffice
[06:37] <wols_> mystiqueba: cause their packages are broken. and openoffice is not the standard anymore. and I wouldn't want to run any software owned by oracle if I can help it. and with libreoffice I have a hoice. Unlike Virtualbox or Java
[06:38] <javier> ok. i am buring a livecd image. last time i did this i got a grub rescue prompt. what is the best way to install on a seperate (empty) drive for dual boot capability
[06:38] <endip> wols: sudo dhclient eth1 didn't return anything. Was it supposed to?
[06:38] <mystiqueba> wols, that makes sense.  By the way, is there no easier way to do this?
[06:39] <wols_> endip: if a command doesn't print anything, it means it has succeded. which is a good thing
[06:39] <endip> wols: k, good
[06:39] <wols_> endip: same ff80 IP address?
[06:39] <wols_> fe80 rather
[06:40] <endip> wols: eth1:avahi is gone now.
[06:40] <wols_> endip: good riddance. avahi sucks. rarely if ever needed (it's zeroconf)
[06:41] <endip> wols, eth1 still gives me that inet6 addr: fe80:: ... etc.
[06:41] <wols_> endip: so what IP does eth1 have
[06:41] <wols_> hmm.. question is, why is it eth1 when you have no eth0
[06:41] <javier> can anyone help me set up natty via the gui on a separate drive from windows
[06:41] <wols_> javier: ubuntu will show you two disks when you install, install on the 2nd one. done
[06:42] <endip> wols, I'm fairly certain I edited that interfaces file correctly.
[06:42] <ekshibarov> Hi all. I run Ubuntu liveCD at Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1 and Ubuntu request auth. Is this bug or it's normal? What's username and password i must enter?
[06:42] <wols_> endip: ifup eth1 would have complained if you didn't :)
[06:42] <endip> wols: ok
[06:42] <endip> wols: yeah, I checked it again, and it's correct.
[06:42] <Polah> ekshibarov: username is ubuntu, password is blank
[06:43] <seclm193> hey everyone
[06:43] <DKSAINI> how i can install koha server
[06:43] <wols_> endip: if it is a new installatin, maybe do reinstall. check dmesg then for "link up" messages and hope it's eth0 this time. this could be the problem why nm doesn't use it
[06:44] <ekshibarov> Polah: I try and it' not work. Auth. failure
[06:44] <wols_> udev only changes to eth1 if there is a eth0 already or if the MAC of the ethernet changed
[06:44] <endip> Ok. I'll do that.
[06:44] <Polah> ekshibarov: By blank I mean just hit enter without typing anything, don't actually put in "blank"
[06:44] <wols_> endip: if it doesn't work, you know where to find us :)
[06:45] <wols_> endip: but just install and hope it works, if it doesn't, don't do anything and come here directly. no blacklisting or such
[06:45] <ekshibarov> Polah: Yes, i'm not enter a password, but it's not work
[06:45] <javier> question: if my mobo is set up as ide, why do i see a raid in the installer in the erase option?
[06:45] <Polah> ekshibarov: Hmm, I don't know then. I thought the logon was ubuntu with no password.
[06:46] <endip> wols: LOL, ok. Thanks a lot, you really know your stuff. I appreciate it!! A ton.
[06:46] <mystiqueba> wols_, I keep on getting the following error:  "bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[06:46] <javier> also, what is pdc_eaafjfaidc1 and c2
[06:46] <wols_> mystiqueba: for what command?
[06:46] <DKSAINI> how i can install koha server
[06:46] <DKSAINI> how i can install koha server
[06:47] <ekshibarov> Polah: Is this problem in Ubuntu or it's problem with VirtualBox? I use latest LTS release 10.04.3. If is problem with ubuntu i'l create a ticket with bug.
[06:47] <mystiqueba> wols_, dpkg -r <libreoffice-writer>
[06:47] <wols_> javier: more context. pdc looks like a promise controller
[06:47] <gry> DKSAINI: Hello. Please stand by.
[06:47] <javier> i have, in order /dev/mapper/pdc_eaajfaidc,
[06:47] <wols_> mystiqueba: no <> and ALL the libreoffice packages at once
[06:47] <Polah> ekshibarov: Could be something to do with VirtualBox, I'm fairly sure of the login unless it was something different for 10.04. SOmeone else might know though
[06:48] <Polah> DKSAINI, try here peraps: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
[06:48] <wols_> javier: you have a promise IDE chip which you use for your harddisks?
[06:48] <javier> then /dev/mapper/pdc_eaajfaidc1 ntfs
[06:48] <wols_> javier: what motherboard do you have?
[06:48] <gry> DKSAINI: Please look at this tutorial: http://www.blazingmoon.org/news/2008/12/installing-koha-3-on-ubuntu-810-a-tutorial/
[06:48] <javier> i have the 880g
[06:48] <javier> gigabyte
[06:48] <wols_> javier: that is no motherboard. exact type please
[06:49] <wols_> javier: and I think when you assembled your PC, you did it wrong
[06:49] <wols_> possibly
[06:49] <seclm193> what's the best media manager in ubuntu?
[06:49] <Polah> !best | seclm193
[06:50] <javier> and I have a GA-880GM-
[06:50] <wols_> javier: you don't use RAID for your windows installation right?
[06:50] <javier> i installed in a raid configuration, using sata 0 and 1
[06:50] <javier> i had windows in raid until today
[06:51] <javier> so i could split the drives for windows and ubuntu
[06:51] <wols_> javier: that's why. have you reinstalled your windows to remove the RAID?
[06:51] <javier> yes. In the bios, i am ide, and in windows i two separate drives
[06:51] <wols_> you should use "SATA" or "AHCI" normally. not IDE
[06:51] <javier> but I am at the gui from the live cd for natty
[06:52] <wols_> and it's some artifact from your raid installation I'd say
[06:52] <ekshibarov> Polah: I am using all default settings in VirtualBox, only slightly increased the amount of RAM. Most likely this is a problem in VirtualBox, at later I'll try another virtual machine. Thank's
[06:52] <javier> how do i get rid of it so this can work
[06:52] <wols_> which is a very likely reason why wubi hasn't worked either. you can't just remove the RAID under windows just like that
[06:52] <javier> great
[06:52] <wols_> reinstall your windows I'd say. but for help with windows: ##windows
[06:53] <wols_> javier: was it RAID0 or RAID1?
[06:53] <javier> raid 0
[06:53] <javier> so i have to reinstall windows for ubuntu to work?
[06:53] <javier> when I installed windows, i didn't install any raid drivers
[06:54] <smokeycastle> Can someone please help: I recently installed ubuntu however I am having an issue where when I restart it does not load to the GUI, it gets stuck. can someone please advise me what steps I need to take to be able to troubleshoot this?
[06:54] <OmegaForte> javier, No, you just need to install the drivers for your kernel, or build the raid in the controller firmware during boot.
[06:54] <deem> hi. i want to load the german keyboard layout with "loadkeys de" but if i type this in terminal it says: "KDSKBENT: Operation not permitted. loadkeys: could not deallocate keymap 128"
[06:55] <m4k> hi I'm using ubuntu and I'm not able to connect to the wifi here is my output of "sudo lshw -C network", "lspci -nn" and "ifconfig" http://paste2.org/p/1567016
[06:55] <mystiqueba> wols_, here's the error msg that I'm now getting:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/659771/
[06:55] <javier> omegaforte, i am or was trying to get out of raid
[06:56] <wols_> mystiqueba: warnings are not errors
[06:56] <bkerensa> Ubuntu hates usb wifi adapters
[06:56] <OmegaForte> javier, Okay, you don't need to install a different operating system to configure your current one. Just go into the raid's firmware during boot and trash the array.
[06:56] <javier> sounds like i have to open the case, move sata connections out of a raid configuration, change the bios to ahci, and see what happens
[06:56] <OmegaForte> javier, No, I just told you what to do.
[06:57] <wols_> javier: if you can get a /dev/sdb somewhere in the installer, you're good. if it continues to only show /dev/mapper you have a problem
[06:57] <mystiqueba> wols_, ok.  should I use purge then 'cos I'm still getting the same error message when trying to install from Ubuntu Software Center
[06:57] <wols_> javier: sata connections have no "raid configuration"
[06:57] <bkerensa> deem: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:57] <deem> bkerensa: 11.04
[06:57] <javier> so boot into bios, change from ide back to raid, get rid of the allocations (which will blow away windows), then go to ahci?
[06:58] <DKSAINI> how i can install koha server
[06:58] <javier> and my mobo docs state that sata 0 and 1 have to be used for raid
[06:58] <deem> bkerensa: i found an old thread from about 2005. it says chmodding /dev/console to 0644 solve the problem, but it doesn't
[06:58] <OmegaForte> javier, No, dammit. CTRL-I or CTRL-H, depending on the controller, DESTROY THE ARRAY, And leave it be.
[06:58] <bkerensa> deem: You could try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[06:58] <smokeycastle> Can someone please help: I recently installed ubuntu however I am having an issue where when I restart it does not load to the GUI, it gets stuck. can someone please advise me what steps I need to take to be able to troubleshoot this?
[06:58] <Polah> DKSAINI, two people already provided links to guides explaining how to do that.
[06:59] <wols_> javier: but they aren't just for raid either. you can still use them with separate disks
[06:59] <deem> bkerensa: im not using gnome or unity
[06:59] <Polah> smokeycastle: Could you provide any error logs or suchlike
[06:59] <bkerensa> deem: Ok then in this case... sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[06:59] <javier> ok. will try now
[06:59] <deem> bkerensa: but. i chmoded it again and now it works. but is it a good idea to have /dev/console with 0644 permissions?
[07:00] <deem> ok. it loads the given keymap, but my layout is still en
[07:01] <wols_> deem: in an xterm?
[07:01] <deem> wols_: yes. xterm
[07:01] <bkerensa> deem: I guess it depends on who you ask :) some run root for everything which many frown upon
[07:01] <wols_> deem: xterm doesn't use the keymap
[07:02] <mystiqueba> wols_, do you think I should "purge" openoffice from my system?
[07:02] <deem> wols_: so what is xterm using? with 10.04 it worked
[07:02] <javier> ok. raid deleted.
[07:02] <wols_> mystiqueba: if you want. i'd purge both, openoffice and libreoffce, then reinstall libreoffice frm ubuntu repos
[07:02] <wols_> deem: X keyboard config
[07:03] <mystiqueba> wols_, ok, I'll do just that
[07:06] <mystiqueba> wols_, what command do I use to purge?
[07:06] <gry> mystiqueba: aptitude remove --purge packagename
[07:07] <Polah> mystiqueba: or sudo apt-get purge <package> if you feel more comfortable with apt
[07:07]  * gry isn't sure if apt is included into a default natty install
[07:08] <Polah> gry: I believe it is.
[07:09] <krux> without it aptitude wont work
[07:09] <marw> i'm using ubuntu 11.04. hibernation works to some extent: after waking the laptop up, all applications are closed. any ideas what might be wrong?
[07:09] <rww> aptitude isn't included. apt-get is.
[07:10] <rww> also, aptitude purge packagename :P
[07:10] <gry> rww: Wasn't it the other way round for ...maverik? Or I have a really very bad memory.
[07:11] <rww> gry: no
[07:11] <gry> Thanks...
[07:11] <Polah> gry: Yeah, just looked up that aptitude is a front end for apt
[07:11] <krux> there you go :)
[07:13] <gry> :)
[07:15] <DKSAINI> hi friends : i can listen sound or music only by headphone not normally ,their are no starting sound in ubuntu10.04
[07:15] <gry>  What are your hardware details?
[07:16] <DKSAINI> i have Hp laptop g42 series
[07:16] <mystiqueba> gry, and Polah, thanks!
[07:17] <DKSAINI> hello
[07:17] <gry> Hello.
[07:17] <gry> Please stand by.
[07:17] <deem> wols_: thx. now it works =)
[07:17] <ericthehax> Yo. This is gonna sound stupid. I was kinda in a do-something-stupid mood and some sound issues motivated me even more... I tried to fix my quiet mic by installing the Realtek HD audio driver from Realtek's site (again, felt like doing something stupid) and now I don't know how to get my audio back. Plz halp
[07:19] <mystiqueba> wols_, thanks for your help.
[07:19] <DragonCore> I know Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't get unity but does it get the same security updates and kernel updates that 11.04 gets? Are they just different mainly in new features?
[07:20] <rww> !sru
[07:20] <ericthehax> o... kay then, imma just do what i do best...
[07:21]  * ericthehax disappears
[07:22] <DragonCore> Thanks rww
[07:33] <DKSAINI> hi friends : i can listen sound or music only by headphone not normally ,their are no starting sound in ubuntu10.04
[07:34] <speedy> heelo
[07:34] <ericthehax> Okay, real talk, I need help badly. I was a dumbass and installed the HD Audio driver from Realtek's site and broke my audio. Is there a way to undo this?
[07:38] <speedy> hello guys
[08:01] <Dexo> hey, im trying to use this cmd line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame to run Minecraft on ubuntu but i keep getting errors
[08:01] <rww> Dexo: change Minecraft.jar to minecraft.jar
[08:02] <Dexo> oh. i will try
[08:03] <Dexo> this is the error i get btw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/659794/
[08:04] <rww> Dexo: Yes, I know :P
[08:04] <chenthu> how to know the gtk and ubuntu version?
[08:04] <chenthu> are there terminal commands for that?
[08:04] <rww> !version
[08:04] <Dexo> ok rww, its working good not
[08:04] <Dexo> now*
[08:05] <Dexo> its funny that i get better help here than i did in the Minecraft irc :P
[08:05] <chenthu> rww: thank you
[08:07] <chenthu> rww: but when i give "apt-cache policy gtk" it says "unable to locate package"
[08:08] <rww> chenthu: try libgtk2.0-0 and libgtk-3-0
[08:08] <chenthu> rww:  thank you....
[08:08] <rww> (you'll probably have gtk2 or both, depending on Ubuntu version)
[08:09] <wols_> chenthu: or dpkg -l |grep libgtk  (or any other part of the package name you actually know for whatever you want to know)
[08:09] <Dexo> rww, it keeps everythig from laggng but i still get 1fps. but that could be my computer, 512mb ram ubuntu 10.04 celeron M
[08:10] <chenthu> rww: thanks it worked ...i have bboth
[08:10] <chenthu> wols_: this worked as well thank you
[08:10] <do0> skype is not in Ubuntu anymore?
[08:11] <lonejack> hi, I'm using an epson printer(EPL-5800) that, when linux prints images(photo), need one or two geological
[08:11] <lonejack> era to complete the job...
[08:11] <lonejack> 10.04
[08:13] <milamber> !skype | do0
[08:13] <do0> ah
[08:15] <TBotNik> hey quick Q: Trying to restore pkgs on machine with "dpkg --set-selections < "/home/ndavis/myfiles/Scripts/Package Installs/ins_packages_delta.txt" & dselect install" and getting error "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" and this just after a fresh reboot.  Anyone know what might be causing this?
[08:15] <samy3> hi
[08:15] <samy3> hello guys
[08:16] <samy3> i want to knw how can i install virtual box on my linux machine?
[08:17] <TBotNik> samy3: Installing the VBox is easy, but what are you installing under it?
[08:17] <samy3> yeh botnik how can i install VBox on linux?
[08:18] <TBotNik> samy3: Using synaptic or cmd line?
[08:18] <chenthu> if i have both gtk version....what does it mean?....why is there two versions and if i am installing a theme pack which one should i install?
[08:18] <samy3> hmm how to install via the cmd ?
[08:21] <TBotNik> Ah samy3 left was gonna give him HOWTO
[08:21] <TBotNik> Repeating: hey all quick Q: Trying to restore pkgs on machine with "dpkg --set-selections < "/home/ndavis/myfiles/Scripts/Package Installs/ins_packages_delta.txt" & dselect install" and getting error "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" and this just after a fresh reboot.  Anyone know what might be causing this?
[08:23] <IdleOne> TBotNik: you using sudo?
[08:23] <IdleOne> TBotNik: also make sure you don't have Software center or Synaptic running when you run the command
[08:25] <chenthu> TBotNik: i think restarting would help... some times if an update or othe software installation is going on or if u are doenloading software to install then it would lock down the folders... so u better wait for it to get over or if there is nothing then just restart
[08:25] <Dexo> rage quit
[08:25] <IdleOne> chenthu: no need for a restart in this case
[08:25] <IdleOne> this is not windows
[08:25] <chenthu> IdleOne: caue that worked for me
[08:25] <IdleOne> chenthu: yeah, it works but is not necessary
[08:26] <chenthu> IdleOne: yeah this is not widows but that worked for me
[08:26] <samy3> hi
[08:26] <chenthu> IdleOne: yeah not necessory but when someone has no clue what goes on its better to restart... thats in my opinion
[08:26] <samy3> how can i install VBox via the terminal command?
[08:27] <neofutur> hi all, I need to update an old jaunty  but i cant find a jaunty mirror
[08:27] <neofutur> is it still possible to find one ?
[08:27] <wols_> !eol | neofutur
[08:27] <IdleOne> chenthu: you have a right to your opinion. Still does not make it valid. in this case it is a simple case of killing whatever app is using the lock file (Software Center or Synaptic)
[08:27] <DASDAS> Hello
[08:28] <neofutur> ubottu: i cant upgrade, just need to update and install packages
[08:28] <chenthu> !vbox | samy3
[08:28] <wols_> neofutur: you can't upgrade why?
[08:28] <neofutur> eol means no more mirrors provided online ?
[08:28] <IdleOne> correct
[08:29] <IdleOne> End Of Life
[08:29] <wols_> neofutur: no mirrors, no support. nothing.
[08:29] <neofutur> uosiu: because everytime i tried to upgrade an ubuntu it ended all broken and needed to reinstall
[08:29] <oCean> the mirrors are moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com I thought?
[08:30] <neofutur> oCean: thanks ;)
[08:30] <IdleOne> oCean: for posterity but not maintained
[08:30] <IdleOne> no security or app updates
[08:30] <TBotNik> samy3: Your back here is your HOWTO on VBox: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_ubuntu
[08:31] <oCean> IdleOne: sure, true. But neofutur is looking for a way to upgrade. The EOLupgrades wikipages describes how to use the old-releases.ubuntu.com
[08:31] <IdleOne> oCean: <neofutur> ubottu: i cant upgrade, just need to update and install packages
[08:31] <IdleOne> :)
[08:32] <oCean> oh.
[08:32] <chenthu> IdleOne: he is new to this its wrong to make fun...
[08:32] <IdleOne> chenthu: I am not making fun
[08:32] <rww> chenthu: oCean isn't new to this :P
[08:32] <samy3> thanks botnik
[08:32] <IdleOne> chenthu: oCean is far from new
[08:32] <samy3> <3
[08:33] <rww> IdleOne's messages aren't new either, he steals them from me ;(
[08:33] <chenthu> IdleOne: i meant neofutur
[08:33] <IdleOne> chenthu: I wasn't making fun of him either
[08:33] <chenthu> IdleOne: no offence just siad it....
[08:33] <neofutur> np thanks to answer anyway
[08:33] <chenthu> IdleOne: ok if not thats good...
[08:33] <neofutur> so there is just nothing i can put in the sources.list ?
[08:33] <wols_> neofutur: why didn't you read the pointers you were given?
[08:34] <chenthu> neofutur: can u pastebin ur sources.list?
[08:34] <chenthu> if i have both gtk version....what does it mean?....why is there two versions and if i am installing a theme pack which one should i install?
[08:35] <neofutur> chenthu: just all the jaunty sources that were working 2 years ago
[08:35] <IdleOne> neofutur: I recommend you upgrade but it is up to you.
[08:35] <wols_> chenthu: different programs depend on different gtk versions
[08:36] <chenthu> neofutur: yeah but it would help if u pastebin.....and check what wols said ...read the pointers given to him
[08:36] <chenthu> wols_: if suppose i have to instal a theme pack which gtk version shoud i choose?
[08:36] <neofutur> chenthu: http://pastebay.com/134629
[08:37] <neofutur> chenthu: yup reading the links now
[08:37] <TBotNik> samy3: Did the HOWTO help you?
[08:37] <osmosis> So i install ubuntu and all goes well. Then as soon as im up and running, it says it wants to install system updates. I think it tried to install some EFI bootloader update...then my machine freezes, and is borked. Reinstall and repeat. Any suggestions?
[08:39] <TBotNik> samy3: Sorry can't personally help you. Just up here debugging a major restore problem and now running so computer will be busy for 4 hours and I got to run.  If you have Qs about the HOWTO some of the other quys here will be able to help!  Cheers!
[08:39] <seemawn> hi
[08:39] <samy3> sorry
[08:40] <samy3> how to didn't help me
[08:40] <DASDAS> Hi, i need help
[08:40] <IdleOne> DASDAS: with?
[08:40] <seemawn> i have found crtiical behavior: when the screen is locked (actual stable ubuntu release), I can still open the start-menu by hitting the meta-key.
[08:41] <seemawn> imho this shall not be. Is this a bug, and if yes, already reported?
[08:41] <LarsTorben> IdleOne: With Ubuntu.
[08:41] <IdleOne> LarsTorben: I assumed as much. Could you be more specific?
[08:42] <LarsTorben> Yes, I think to tell you a good explanation
[08:43] <samy3> please help me
[08:43] <LarsTorben> Well, I think I asked the problem before. But no good help.
[08:43] <LarsTorben> !help | samy3
[08:44] <LarsTorben> I am usinh WIndows 7 by now, because Ubuntu 11.04 did not work good for me. I have a problem with window maximzing. SInce 11.04 Ubuntu uses Compiz because Unity
[08:45] <IdleOne> !classic | LarsTorben
[08:45] <stein-on> LarsTorben, try kde
[08:45] <LarsTorben> IdleOne: Yes, its possible. But it is not an alternative to 11.10
[08:45] <chenthu> neofutur: sry i dint read the word jaunty... i thought u were asking abt natty.... jaunty's support is long gone...
[08:45] <chenthu> neofutur: but i am looking for the links... will try...
[08:46] <samy3> how to install the VirtulBox with the help of terminal command?
[08:46] <LarsTorben> I will first try to explain the problem
[08:46] <rww> LarsTorben: In oneiric, you can use GNOME 3 in Shell or Fallback mode. But oneiric is offtopic for here, as you know ;)
[08:46] <IdleOne> LarsTorben: 11.10 is not released yet and not supported in this channel. if you want help with 11.04 this is the correct channel. I gave you an option to be able to run 11.04.
[08:46] <LarsTorben> OK, thanks.
[08:47] <LarsTorben> Well, my problem with Unity is, Unity uses 2 workspaces vertical, 2 desktops horizontal
[08:47] <oCean> LarsTorben: it is really not necessary to explain the problem. You have done so before. The bugs logged against this problem have not been solved
[08:47] <LarsTorben> And if there is a window a bit more on desktop2, it maximises there, but i want to stay on 1
[08:47] <LarsTorben> bug 776435
[08:48] <oCean> LarsTorben: so this channel cannot provide a solution for you at this point
[08:48] <LarsTorben> Ocean: do you think it will be fixed?
[08:48] <IdleOne> hopefully soon
[08:48] <LarsTorben> Ocean: all tell me it is not a bug its a feature
[08:48] <oCean> LarsTorben: I think they are working on it. Yours is marked as "duplicate" so there are others.
[08:48] <samy3> please help me guys with the virtual box installation on my linux machine
[08:48] <LarsTorben> Ocean: all tell me it is not a bug its a featur
[08:49] <LarsTorben> sorrywrong
[08:49] <LarsTorben> i meant: Ocean: so i thought by now it would not be fixed
[08:49] <oCean> LarsTorben: unfortunately in your bug, the duplicates are (incorrectly) not mentioned. I'll do a little search at Launchpad
[08:49] <chenthu> neofutur: http://mreschke.com/topic/254/Ubuntu+End+of+Life+and+Upgrades
[08:49] <oCean> LarsTorben: ok, if it is *never* going to be fixed, then we still cannot provide the solution. For now, let me have a look at LP (other related bugs)
[08:50] <LarsTorben> ocean: wait wait i  cangive you
[08:50] <LarsTorben> OCean: there are all listed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/774986
[08:50] <LarsTorben> but i think only a few belong to my mproblem
[08:51] <oCean> LarsTorben: ok, let me see
[08:51] <samy3> ubottu help me out
[08:51] <pp7> anyone here use umplayer? my youtube suddenly stopped working in it
[08:51] <goddard_> whats a good webcam that gets atleast 60 frames per second at 1080p that works with ubuntu of course
[08:52] <neofutur> chenthu: thanks for trying ;)
[08:52] <chenthu> neofutur: your welcome.... i wish i could help...
[08:52] <samy3> ubottu how to install Virtual Box on my Linux?
[08:53] <goddard_> so poliet
[08:53] <LarsTorben> samy3: apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[08:53] <goddard_> good robot
[08:53] <IdleOne> !virtualbox | samy3
[08:53] <samy3> let me try larstorben
[08:53] <LarsTorben> ok
[08:55] <samy3> LarsTorben: apt:invalid flag: -get
[08:56] <LarsTorben> samy3: apt-get one word
[08:56] <neofutur> chenthu: yeah, thanks, ill try to switch to old-releases
[08:57] <samy3> ok LarsTorben but this error come
[08:57] <samy3> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[08:57] <goddard_> whats a good webcam that gets atleast 60 frames per second at 1080p that works with ubuntu of course
[08:57] <wols_> samy3: there is more than that. give us the _first_ error
[08:58] <oCean> LarsTorben: ok, I did not exactly read that "it is a feature" but there are hints that indicate that. I don't fully understand, since I use KDE, but with this many users affected I would expect some solutions. In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/776435 a workaround is mentioned for unity-2d (final post)
[08:58] <samy3> wols_ Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.38 (x86_64)
[08:58] <wols_> !hcl | goddard_
[08:59] <wols_> samy3: since you don't know what an error is, paste the full output
[08:59] <LarsTorben> Ocean: another workround is to change the workspaces from 4 to 1
[08:59] <wols_> samy3: pastebin tho
[08:59] <samy3> hmm here or on the private?
[08:59] <goddard_> wols_: do you have a webcam?
[08:59] <samy3> ok wols
[08:59] <LarsTorben> Ocean:what should i do
[08:59] <IdleOne> wait for it to be fixed
[08:59] <IdleOne> that is all you can do
[09:00] <IdleOne> Now PLEASE stop asking for help with something that we cannot help fix.
[09:00] <oCean> LarsTorben: unfortunately, as IdleOne states, you have to wait. We (this channel) channot help you with a solution
[09:00] <LarsTorben> IdleOne: okay, but there are to workarounds (exept using classic)
[09:00] <goddard_> damn most webcams suck
[09:00] <LarsTorben> But i know to workarounds: changing the workspaces from 4 to 1 or using unity 2d
[09:00] <IdleOne> so use the work arounds
[09:01] <oCean> LarsTorben: exactly.
[09:01] <goddard_> 100 dollars for this beauty ha http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-960-000111-QuickCam-Orbit/dp/tech-data/B000UY1OMY/ref=de_a_smtd
[09:01] <makara> what program comes with natty that I can use to transfer files with a crossover cable? i don't have internet on that machine
[09:01] <LarsTorben> yes IdleOne: but what is the best workaround ?
[09:01] <samy3> wols: http://pastebin.com/WbvZSCF7
[09:01] <samy3> please look at here
[09:01] <IdleOne> LarsTorben: the one that works for you
[09:01] <wols_> goddard_: keep your non ubuntu related things out of the channel please
[09:01] <oCean> LarsTorben: it's your choice. Can you live with one workspace?
[09:01] <wols_> samy3: line 28 and 29 tell you what to do
[09:02] <LarsTorben> Ocean: yes, and i think unity 3d is better than unity 2d because its more stable and so on
[09:02] <LarsTorben> so ill wiull take that
[09:02] <oCean> LarsTorben: ok, that's the way to go then for now!
[09:02] <samy3> wols: i don't know what to do with line 28 and 29 :(
[09:02] <LarsTorben> yes thank you idleone and ocean for your help and rww for removing my ban i will never ask this again thank you
[09:02] <LarsTorben> u
[09:03] <oCean> LarsTorben: thank you too
[09:03] <wols_> samy3: it tells you in what logfile to look explicitly
[09:03] <LarsTorben> ocean: np
[09:03] <wols_> !pm | samy3
[09:04] <samy3> ok i don't know this
[09:04] <chenthu> can i use a software meant for ubuntu 10.04?
[09:04] <tanath> this is weird. i'm transferring files over the network and sending comp says it's sending at ~5mb/s and receiving comp says it's receiving at ~2mb/s
[09:05] <wols_> chenthu: you can try. it might work or might not work. it is unsupported to mix ubuntu versions
[09:05] <chenthu> wols_: ok....thanks for the info....i am gonna try it
[09:05] <orated> Is it so that if I use Ubuntu DVD for installation, I'll not have to update for basic packages like sound plugics, codecs or for videos etc?
[09:06] <orated> *initially*
[09:06] <wols_> orated: ubuntu is not windows
[09:07] <chenthu> wols_: ubuntu and debian use the same .deb package....so can i install a software thats for debian on ubuntu?
[09:07] <orated> wols_: Yes, Ubuntu is not Windows.
[09:07] <wols_> orated: then don't treat it as such
[09:07] <orated> !
[09:07] <wols_> chenthu: no
[09:08] <chenthu> wols_: ok..... :-P
[09:08] <wols_> chenthu: again: you can try. but as with the scenario above, no support anywhere. and the likelyhood of problems is a lot bigger
[09:10] <orated> wols_: What is the DVD for?
[09:11] <chenthu> wols_: oh ok... and can i install a i386 debian on a amd64 machine , if i have installed ia32 libs...
[09:11] <IdleOne> orated: it has extra packages and language packs, you can use it to install those packages from the DVD instead of downloading
[09:11] <chenthu> orated: the DVD is for including other non essential softwares.....
[09:11] <neofutur> chenthu: seems to work, you probably saed my life ;) got a bitcoin tip jar to thank you ?
[09:12] <epifanio> hi all
[09:12] <epifanio> having  problems with unity on 11.10 on a mac book pro 2.2 using the mac iso image ... i fixed the battery check problem with your help, thanks!
[09:12] <epifanio> now when i log in i have nautilus on top of unity that is not running, while if i log in in the recovery mode and then i log in as user and run : startx .. all works fine
[09:12] <orated> IdleOne: What are those extra packages? Could you link me to the list, please
[09:12] <IdleOne> !11.10
[09:12] <rww> epifanio: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion and support, please
[09:12] <wols_> chenthu: restate the question and explain better what you want to do. makes no sense as it is
[09:12] <epifanio> ahh .. right!
[09:13] <epifanio> i logged in ubuntu-one .. instead of +1
[09:13] <epifanio> i was wrong and they pointed me to here .. my fault again :-)
[09:13] <epifanio> sorry
[09:13] <chenthu> neofutur: oh really did it work?... good.... your welcome...
[09:14] <chenthu> neofutur: oh really did it work?... good.... your welcome... ?.... i read abt bitcoins but never used it....what does it mean by the things u said
[09:14] <neofutur> yup seems ok ;) , hum if you had a btc adress I could send you 0.1 btc as a tip
[09:15] <orated> IdleOne: ?
[09:15] <neofutur> its one of the useful uses of bitcoin,fast and easy tip on irc ;)
[09:15] <IdleOne> orated: looking for a list..
[09:15] <neofutur> ( and anonymous ;)
[09:16] <chenthu> wols_: i have a i386 .deb file to install a UI for my 3G data card, and i am running a amd64 system...so if i install the 32bil libs like ia-32 libs , will i be able to install and work with the i386 file on a amd64 system?
[09:16] <wols_> chenthu: if you have installed all the necessary libs, yes
[09:16] <neofutur> chenthu: feel free to query me for more questions, i dont want to go too much offtopic on #ubuntu
[09:17] <chenthu> neofutur: oh ok...haha... thats very nice of you but, no and thank you... i am actually planning to go into bit coins.... but these help i provide is just for the spirit of the open community, and i dont like to be physically rewarded for that
[09:17] <IdleOne> orated: unfortunately I am not finding such a list but according to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd "the main benefit of the DVD downloads is to get access to all of the available language packs."
[09:17] <wols_> chenthu: supposedly 11.04 can do multiarch. how well this works I dunno however
[09:18] <orated> IdleOne: Ah-ok. So its relevant for language packs. Thank you for your time :)
[09:18] <neofutur> chenthu: np, so no tip, but I bless you ;) and if you ever have questions about bitcoin, just query me ;)
[09:19] <chenthu> wols_: oh ok... is ia-32 lib the only batch of 32bit lib or you would suggest more 32bit libs that i can install on my amd64?
[09:19] <wols_> chenthu: I don't suggest anything
[09:20] <chenthu> wols_: ok ...thanks o the help...
[09:20] <chenthu> ok going out for sometime now
[09:21] <smokeycastle> I am running ubuntu 11.04(64 bit) and am running into some trouble. When I restart my machine it fails to boot up into the gui, I can alt f1 and login to bash but I dont know how to cancel the init that has stalled and re perform the init any ideas?
[09:22] <wols_> smokeycastle: don't let it run your display manager
[09:23] <wols_> ie when you do your console boot, disable the loading of the displaymanager and reboot
[09:23] <smokeycastle> how do i do that?
[09:26] <smokeycastle> additionally when I do startx it comes back fatal error no screens found
[09:26] <smokeycastle> also the live cd wont boot anymore for some reason?
[09:30] <FernandoTertiary> hola, am attempting to create a network for a few machines using Ubuntu 11.04. Can anybody assist por favor?
[09:31] <avernos> anyone knows a good application for raw sound processing for ubuntu ?
[09:32] <deostroll> hi. what is the shell way of determining comupter RAM size?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> avernos: maybe something here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software
[09:32] <oCean> deostroll: command 'free' or, more detailed  cat /proc/meminfo
[09:33] <avernos> thanks lotuspsychje
[09:34] <deostroll> oCean, what is the swap in the ram info provided.
[09:34] <gnumdk> hello
[09:34] <gnumdk> does someone know how to call "session indicator" shutdown dialog from commande line ?
[09:35] <deostroll> oCean, check the paste http://pastebin.com/Vbj9m5Wy
[09:35] <oCean> deostroll: swapspace is diskspace which can temporarily hold memory pages
[09:35] <tfdev> anyone help me install a second bootable OS? currently running ubuntu 11.04 and want to install an image file to a 20 gig partition
[09:36] <deostroll> oCean, nothing to do w/ the RAM stick, right?
[09:37] <oCean> deostroll: not directly. If you want details on your hardware config, you can run   sudo lshw -C memory
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a GUI snort intrusion alerter?
[09:43] <tfdev>  /j #linux
[09:50] <abbiya> hey all
[09:51] <abbiya> i got a problem while connecting to the AES and WPA2 enterprise enabled wifi n/w
[09:51] <abbiya> i connects well to my win7 system. i have username and password for the n/w
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: what wifi card driver you have?
[09:51] <c-boy> what
[09:51] <abbiya> broadcam
[09:52] <abbiya> @lotus:  its a acer aspire system
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: i've readed about a natty bug not being able to connect to AES and TKIP, did you try WEP?
[09:53] <abbiya> yeah..failed
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: did you clean install or update natty?
[09:54] <abbiya> @lotus:  yeah i updated the ubuntu via another wifi n/w
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: you installed latest broadcom card drivers?
[09:54] <abbiya> yeah
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: you might check syslog at /var/log for wifi errors maybe?
[09:55] <abbiya> @lotus: any simple solution
[09:55] <abbiya> ..?
[09:56] <LarsTorben> hi
[09:56] <LarsTorben> hi
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: your problem depends on whats happening, first we need to findout before a simple solution right
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> abbiya: a good start would be pastebin your logs for networkmanager problems
[09:58] <abbiya> okay lotus.. its a dualboot system.i cant get the log rightnow
[10:12] <X3D> hello
[10:14] <X3D> anyone here interested in comp security?
[10:16] <chenthu> X3D: why?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> X3D: security is always interesting :p
[10:20] <X3D> because i am just wondering ")
[10:20] <X3D> i too enjoy it
[10:22] <jojo_> hi all
[10:24] <jojo_> my brightness control does not work on my acer timeline X... any suggestions for drivers/apps i could use. I could make the sound work with pulse audio volume control
[10:26] <ionite> can anyone help me with my audio? it's digital output audio. but it keeps stuttering
[10:27] <chewy> bazhang, still there?
[10:28] <Sidewinder1> X3D, You may wish to have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338  If you have not, already. :-)
[10:28] <chewy> bazhang, i m fighting with handbrake. it doesn t give easy way to rip many subtitles and a couple of audio tracks. i am installing ogmrip. :)
[10:28] <root> hi frnds
[10:29] <bonhoffer> i am trying to pull out all lines in a file that match: foo "this is my text" -- sed, awk or grep?
[10:29] <bonhoffer> i'm new to linux
[10:29] <ryant> Hi
[10:29] <wols_> bonhoffer: grep
[10:29] <bonhoffer> the regex i want would be /^foo\s"(.*)"/ ,but i just want $1 !
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Sidewinder1: tnx for the snort thread on that link
[10:30] <Sidewinder1> NP
[10:30] <bonhoffer> i just want the match inside, i think grep will give me the whole line
[10:30] <bonhoffer> i am sure ubuntu has a tool that can pull out a regex match
[10:31] <wols_> bonhoffer: egrep?
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> Sidewinder1: you would know howot tail -f snort logs only?
[10:31] <bonhoffer> wols_: thanks, will look into that
[10:33] <Blade20> for the ATI card what is the lspci grep terminal code to get the temps
[10:33] <Sidewinder1> lotuspsychje, I've no clue, sorry.
[10:33] <ionite> how can install back the volume contronl on my panel?
[10:34] <Blade20> ionite, right click, add to panel, volume control
[10:34] <KM0201> ionite: how did you uninstall it?
[10:35] <ionite> KM0201: i got
[10:35] <KM0201> Blade20: ionite im pretty sure the volume applet, is actually controlled by indicator applet
[10:35] <ionite> Blade20: it does not have the volume control selection
[10:35] <ionite> KM0201: can i select the volume control on my panel as audacious or VLC instead of gmusic browser?
[10:36] <Blade20> KM0201, ionite ok i was thinking of the old way
[10:36] <ionite> Blade20: so how do i reinstall the volume control bar?
[10:36] <ionite> Blade20: but i want to use audacious instead of the default gmusic browser
[10:37] <KM0201> ionite: look in synaptic, and see if you have "indicator-sound" installed
[10:37] <X3D[AFK]> thanx sidewinder :)
[10:37] <KM0201> ionite: which volume applet is in the panel, has nothing to do with what app you use as your default music player.
[10:37] <Blade20> ionite, i use pulse audio for my volume control... so i am not sure
[10:38] <ionite> Blade20: i'm also using pulse audio but the indicator is gone!
[10:38] <X3D[AFK]> what would you reccomend for creating a VPS node?
[10:38] <X3D[AFK]> i want to make one
[10:38] <Blade20> ionite, are you just looking for the volume control on the menu bar?
[10:39] <KM0201> ionite: look in synaptic, and see if you have "indicator-sound" installed  <-- AGAIN
[10:39] <KM0201> Blade20: i suspect he installed indicator-sound.. which is the volume indicator on the indicator applet.
[10:39] <Blade20> ionite, KM0201 knows more about this than i
[10:39] <ionite> KM0201: it shows that it's installed?
[10:39] <X3D[AFK]> and also, how much bandwidth would be used, if i had 10 people using the server
[10:39] <KM0201> sorry, suspect he "removed".. indicator-sound
[10:40] <X3D[AFK]> but had a bandwidth splitter in place
[10:40] <KM0201> ionite: right click your panel, add to panel, and choose "indicator applet"  see if that brings your volume back.
[10:40] <Blade20> KM0201, i think you may be right... i just drag my pulse audio icon to my menu bar and use it that way.... but then i set things up a bit different than most lol
[10:40] <X3D[AFK]> anyone?
[10:40] <KM0201> Blade20: that would probably work as well (i just use pavu from the menu.. :))
[10:41] <remi_> Hello everybody!
[10:41] <X3D[AFK]> hello
[10:41] <Blade20> KM0201, it has been a very long time for me with linux... so i am re learning and learning the new stuff all at the same time lol
[10:41] <remi_> somebody knows how to copy and paste on Pitivi? because ctrl+c-ctrl-v, doesn't work! :)
[10:41] <KM0201> Blade20: understood :)
[10:42] <KM0201> remi_: pitivi is a video editor isn't it?... why wouold you copy/paste text into it.
[10:42] <ionite> KM0201: it doesn't have indicator applet.
[10:42] <Blade20> KM0201, that is why i try to help when i can... but when i see that someone (you in this case) knows a better way i defer :)
[10:42] <KM0201> lo
[10:42] <KM0201> ionite: do you see "indicator" anything?
[10:42] <X3D[AFK]> anyone good with networking and server here?
[10:42] <X3D[AFK]> servers*
[10:42] <makara> hi. can someone explain something to me please. why when i plug in an ethernet wire from one ubuntu pc to another, does the network try to autoconnect. what is it trying to autoconnect and why does it always fail?
[10:42] <remi_> yo KM0201, yeah, i want to copy and paste portions edited videos! :)
[10:42] <remi_> of*
[10:42] <ionite> KM0201: it have indicationr plugin i tried but it still doesn't have any volume control
[10:43] <KM0201> remi_: good luck w/ that.
[10:43] <remi_> KM0201, you know what i mean?
[10:43] <szal> !afk | X3D[AFK]
[10:43] <remi_> :à
[10:43] <remi_> :)
[10:43] <KM0201> remi_: yes, but i don't have a solution to that, sorry
[10:43] <szal> X3D[AFK]: and please ask a meaningful question
[10:43] <X3D[AFK]> ok
[10:43] <Sidewinder1> X3D[AFK], You might look in #ubuntu-server
[10:43] <remi_> KM0201, oh, i see! thanks! i want thinking that it was a crazy thing to do lol :D
[10:43] <tomek_> hi
[10:44] <dnivra> makara: I'm guessing that your network connection is set to "Auto DHCP" but it's not able to find a DHCP server, hence not get an IP address and fails to connect.
[10:44] <remi_> was*
[10:44] <semi-afk> makara: A) you may need a crossover cable B) you don't have DHCP server up and running in either of the PC
[10:44] <tomek_> czy mam pisac po polsku czy po angielsku?
[10:44] <KM0201> ionite: dunno, i'm not at my ubuntu pc at the moment to try and duplicator your prob.
[10:45] <KM0201> but.. there's gotta be a logical reason for it.
[10:45] <X3D> I would like to know how much bandwidth 10 users would use up, of my VPS?
[10:45] <X3D> approx
[10:45] <tomek_> ok, i have problem with google-chrome-stable package
[10:45] <szal> !pl | tomek_
[10:46] <Blade20> remi_, take a look at pitivi video editor
[10:46] <remi_> Blade20, yo! yeah? where? :)
[10:46] <Blade20> remi_, package manager
[10:47] <Sidewinder1> X3D, It would depend on what they were doing; if they were all streaming video, alot...etc.
[10:47] <jetscreamer> !apt-cache
[10:47] <jetscreamer> damn that's a non-extensive db on the bot
[10:47] <X3D> they would be using my VPS for hosting websites
[10:47] <X3D> and would a bandwidth spiltter help?
[10:47] <makara> dnivra: its set to 'Auto eth0'. thank you, i see an option on the ipv4 settings tab which says 'require ipv4 addressing for this connection to complete'
[10:47] <Blade20> need to find the "grep" command for a video card in "lspci"
[10:48] <ionite> KM0201: does XFCE use gnome?
[10:48] <dnivra> makara: you're safer creating a new connection that statically configures IP addresses.
[10:48] <KM0201> ionite: it uses a lot of gnome libraries, yes
[10:48] <remi_> Blade20, i typed "pitivi" on synaptic but there is only one package, the installation one :(
[10:48] <dnivra> makara: best not to meddle with "Auto eth0"
[10:48] <ionite> KM0201:  maybe it's gnome-volume-control-applet ?
[10:48] <karni> Hi guys. I'm having issues booting 10.04.3 from USB key. It tells me "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot"
[10:48] <dnivra> makara: this might help a bit perhaps. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01292011/Networking%20and%20sharing%20files%20in%20Ubuntu. It covers setting up a static IP.
[10:48] <KM0201> ionite: could be.
[10:49] <karni> I've booted it from USB key.
[10:49] <KM0201> ionite: but i don't think thats it.
[10:49] <Blade20> remi_, then i think i missed what you are looking for... you need a video editor to cut parts of videos yes?
[10:49] <karni> I have also tried re-burning the iso onto the USB, still same issue.
[10:49] <karni> I also can't find other 10.04 version than 10.04.3
[10:49] <jetscreamer> avidemux works
[10:49] <karni> Any hints how can I boot the 10.04.3 installer?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> X3D: you could etherape or wireshark network bandwith flows
[10:49] <Blade20> karni, be sure to check the md5sum
[10:50] <karni> Blade20: I'll do that, thank you
[10:50] <KM0201> karni: also, how are yo uputting it on USB?.
[10:50] <karni> KM0201: Startup Disk Creator (Ubuntu default tool)
[10:50] <Sidewinder1> karni, Did you check the iso with Md5sum, prior to burning?
[10:50] <KM0201> hmm, i've had problems w/ that one in the past.
[10:50] <GirlyGirl> karni: try unetbootin
[10:50] <KM0201> bu tit should work.
[10:50] <remi_> Blade20, i am using Pitivi and in the timeline where i have portions of videos, i want to know how to copy and paste these portions i resized and all, copy c/v doesn't work :(
[10:50] <KM0201> try unetbootin
[10:50] <X3D> so what would be the typical usage lotuspsychje?
[10:50] <Blade20> karni, it is always better/easer to burn Linux distro ISO in Linux
[10:51] <karni> Sidewinder1: No, but that's what Blade20 suggested, and I'm doing right now.
[10:51] <karni> Blade20: I did that..
[10:51] <karni> Come on guys :) Startup Disk Creator
[10:51] <karni> I've installed it onto usb from my 11.04
[10:51] <X3D> because i only have 60gb on peek, and 60 gb off peek for a month
[10:51]  * karni looks up md5sum on the webpage
[10:51] <X3D> of internet usage
[10:52] <Blade20> remi_, you may need to look into other video editing programs to find what you are looking for then.
[10:52] <remi_> Blade20, thank you for your answer
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> X3D: bandwith usage? depends on what Sidewinder1 said earlier, how many users and what kind of stuff they do...
[10:53] <karni> Blade20: md5sum is correct :<
[10:53] <Blade20> karni, are you burning slow....
[10:53] <GirlyGirl> karni: Try using unetbootin
[10:53] <karni> GirlyGirl: I'll try that (does it run on Ubuntu?)
[10:53] <Sidewinder1> !unetbootin | karni
[10:53] <karni> Blade20: What do you mean :)?
[10:53] <GirlyGirl> karni: yes
[10:53] <karni> Sidewinder1: Thank you, I know what unetbootin is :)
[10:54] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[10:54] <Blade20> karni, are you using a Linux distro to burn it?
[10:54] <natrixnatrix89> Why does ubuntu have empathy installed by default, although it crashes all the time and pidgin is much much better?
[10:54] <karni> Sidewinder1: I'm sorry, I meant, I've seen it yesterday, but indeed I asked if it run on Ubuntu ;) So thank you!
[10:54] <Sidewinder1> NP
[10:54] <X3D> lotuspsychje would you say 60gb peek, 60 gb peek per month would be enough?
[10:55] <karni> Blade20: Ok, let's start from scratch. I'm running 11.04 - I used "Startup Disk Creator" (from *UBuntu*) to burn 10.04.3 iso onto my USB. I use ubuntu for 12+ years now :)
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> X3D: whats the purpose of 10 users gonna be?
[10:55] <Sidewinder1> X3D, With respect, as you've been told it would all depend on what the useers were doing.
[10:55] <Blade20> karni,  if you are using a linux distro get K3B
[10:55] <karni> Blade20: I've used this tool to 'burn' tens of ubuntu isos on usb sticks
[10:55] <X3D> for website hosting
[10:55] <karni> Blade20: I'm not burning a CD..
[10:55] <Blade20> karni, ok then you will want unetbootin
[10:55] <oCean> X3D: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:55] <X3D> it does
[10:55] <karni> Blade20: that's a KDE tool isn't it, Brasero runs under gnome (just by the way :) )
[10:55] <X3D> im using an ubuntu machine
[10:56] <X3D> to do this
[10:56] <karni> Blade20: kk thx!
[10:56] <X3D> openVZ
[10:56] <karni> GirlyGirl: Sidewinder1 Blade20 Thanks guys, I'll give unetbootin a try
[10:56] <X3D> or proxmox
[10:56] <Blade20> karni, yes it is a kde tool but will run under gnome and xfce
[10:56] <karni> If I fail, I'll try an alternate 'CD'
[10:56] <szal> !enter | X3D
[10:56] <karni> Blade20: with 300MB+ of KDE dependencies ;D
[10:56] <GirlyGirl> karni: alternate cd does not work on usb
[10:56] <karni> GirlyGirl: ouch :/
[10:56] <X3D> jeez, so many rules?
[10:57] <GirlyGirl> karni: It will tell you please insert disk (stupid I know)
[10:57] <karni> GirlyGirl: How do you know? I thought iso is just an iso :<
[10:57] <Sidewinder1> karni, If burning CDs, burn at the slowest speed.
[10:57] <karni> oh crap
[10:57] <Blade20> karni, i have both kde and gnome so i already have them :)
[10:57] <karni> Sidewinder1: GirlyGirl: thank you!
[10:57] <karni> Blade20: hah ;) good for you :)!
[10:57] <GirlyGirl> karni: You're welcome
[10:57] <karni> :)
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> X3D: i would focus on network bandwith monitorring tools to see what kind of traffic will be needed
[10:58] <X3D> throttling etc. i know
[10:58] <Blade20> karni, hope it works out... :) ... i understand why.... i made the move back from 11.4 myself
[10:58] <X3D> but, i also dont want to slow my net speed.....
[10:58] <karni> Blade20: I'm quite happy with 11.04, I need 10.04 LTS for my aunts shop :)
[10:58] <karni> Blade20:  I do get occasional X crashes, though.
[10:59] <Blade20> karni, i just could not get used to Unity
[10:59] <karni> Blade20: I'm running UBuntu Classic on 11.04 (you knew you could do that, right?)
[10:59] <X3D> and , also another question, am i able to connect my server to another VPS(my friends) and use both as one?
[10:59] <Blade20> karni, waiting to see how Gnome 3 looks once stable
[10:59] <Linux4UnMe> howdy peoples
[10:59] <karni> Blade20: yeah, that might be interesting
[10:59] <wols_> X3D: define "use both at one" better
[10:59] <Blade20> karni, yes but studio had a ton of problems with 11.4
[11:00] <X3D> as*
[11:00] <ThePub> karni: I've just reinstalled ubuntu and am happy to see the classic option.
[11:00] <X3D> first correct your grammar?
[11:00] <karni> Blade20: ah, that I didn't know
[11:00] <tomek_> i have a problem with google-chrome-stable package. there is  an information, that google-chrom-stable package cant be removed, because there isnt archives
[11:00] <gry> X3D: On IRC, it doesn't matter
[11:00] <wols_> X3D: good luck getting help. good day
[11:00] <KM0201> ThePub: enjoy while you can, it'll be gone in 11.10
[11:00] <X3D> np mate!
[11:00] <karni> ThePub: yup, I didn't get used to Unity yet, so I'm running plain old classic gnome desktop
[11:01] <KM0201> karni: only thing that sucks, is when 11.10 hits.
[11:01] <KM0201> that wont be an option
[11:01] <ThePub> Unity sucks arse, someday they'll realize it :)
[11:01] <X3D> well thenif it doesnt matter, neither does making silly statements....
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:01] <Blade20> karni, over 90% of what i do is media on here... and with the move to windows 7 (fail!) i decided to come back to linux... :) so i love studio for the media
[11:01] <oCean> X3D: move on please
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> the unity thread comming up
[11:01] <X3D> why dont you define your life?
[11:01] <X3D> define this, define that......smh
[11:02] <karni> Blade20: ah! great to hear :) I now use Windows 7 like.. twice a year ;)
[11:02] <KM0201> ThePub: even if they realize unity sucks.. Gnome 3, sucks just as bad.. my point?  Embrace the horror.. you're gonna have to learn a new GUI>>> :) (i recommend LXDE)
[11:02] <makara> dnivra: thanks for the link. The problem for me is that all of these require ubuntu to be connected to the Internet in the first place to download the special program that will allow network access - in this case Samba. I don't understand how Ubuntu can ship without these seemingly critical applications. If I rely on a mobile broadband connection for instance and I can't get that working, then it means I have to connect to another computer, but now I always ha
[11:02] <makara> ve to have a special, which I can't get because I don't have Internet. Isn't this shortsighted of Canonical to not include these in the distro? What network apps are there I can use out of the box? Is there a list?
[11:02] <ThePub> KM0201: nah, KDE will be a better choice.
[11:03] <Blade20> karni, i built this computer for windows 7 lol... 7 just is not stable enough for me
[11:03] <dnivra> makara: that link talks about both "networking" and "sharing". you need samba for "sharing".
[11:03] <KM0201> ThePub: i'd rather have my eyes gouged out than use KDE... honestly, if my choice was unity, gnome 3, KDE... i'd use Windows... i hate those 3 that much (and i loved gnome 2.x)
[11:03] <karni> Blade20: :D
[11:04] <Blade20> years ago... i used Ubuntu... had my computer on for over 6 months without a restart lol
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> ThePub: i would rather prefered if they kept the option open to install gnome classic or run unity(not as login choice)
[11:04] <oCean> Blade20: please stay on topic, welcome to take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <makara> i'm with you KM0201. Gnome2 is fine the way it is. Messing around with the interface is messing around with people. Its why I left Windows
[11:05] <ThePub> KM0201: can you give me one truely honest reason why KDE4 is worse than Gnome?  I dislike KDE myself, but really Gnome is doing the same thing but with less configuration options.  Except now you're forced to use a "shell" for gnome.
[11:05] <oCean> ThePub: this is not a discussion channel
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> lets move the untiy topic to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <Blade20> sorry ocean i kinda got all that started
[11:05] <KM0201> ThePub: honestly, i hate gnome(again, 3.. not 2.x).. but myu biggest problem w/ KDE, is it's overall interface, and the fact it is SLOW.
[11:06] <oCean> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:06] <karni> All right, let's see what unetbootin has to say.
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> Anyone knows if bugs get fixxed in ubuntu default updates? or is it kept seperated?
[11:08] <KM0201> lotuspsychje: depends on the bug fix i guess
[11:09] <karni> lotuspsychje: If you've installed from sources, no. If you installed from UBuntu Software Center or PPA, yes.
[11:09] <astraljava> lotuspsychje: Bugs get fixed in all supported software. Security-related fixes are distributed in security-repo, others in -updates.
[11:09] <karni> lotuspsychje: Also, depends on what kind of updates you have 'checked' in Update Manager
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> even when a bug needs manual config?
[11:10] <X3D> my act is clean?
[11:10] <karni> Blade20: GirlyGirl: Sidewinder1: Hah! For the first time 'Startup Disk Creator' failed to do the job. unetbootin did the trick, sweet!
[11:11] <GirlyGirl> karni: Glad it worked out karni!
[11:11] <Blade20> karni, glad it worked out )
[11:11] <karni> Thanks guys :)
[11:12]  * karni partitions the disk
[11:12] <Blade20> karni, any time :)
[11:12] <GirlyGirl> karni: but I'm not a guy!
[11:12] <karni> Love this channel! I rarely hang out here, but I'm glad there are still helpful people here :)
[11:12] <karni> GirlyGirl: No! Can't be! Seriously ;)! <3
[11:12] <Blade20> lol would have guessed that from the name GirlyGirl :)
[11:13] <oCean> let's move on
[11:13] <karni> Blade20: ;)
[11:13] <karni> GirlyGirl: 'guys' term is a unisex thing :)
[11:13] <GirlyGirl> as oCean said lets move on its a heavy channel, we can always have #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Would this bug fix itself in ubuntu updates? or does one need to wait until official fix before they pick it up in updates? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/713186
[11:14] <karni> GirlyGirl: You really think he meant that? #ubuntuone is much more heavy than this channel at this time of day :) I don't think it's a problem.
[11:14] <m_31> undernet.org
[11:14] <karni> GirlyGirl: But I'm happy to hear about ubuntu-offtopic
[11:14] <Blade20> lspci ... need the grep command ... for my video card info...
[11:15] <karni> Blade20:try $ lspci|grep -i -C 10 video
[11:15] <ThePub> Let's all just have an orgy of words, preferably in English.
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:15] <karni> ThePub: Interesting
[11:15] <oCean> ThePub: karni, please drop it, move back on topic
[11:16] <wishie> im having trouble trying to get bluetooth to turn on.. when i click "Turn on bluetooth" the button just goes grey, and nothing happens
[11:16] <Blade20> karni, nope not it
[11:16] <wishie> im using Ubuntu 11.04
[11:16] <karni> oCean: I'm done with my topic. If you really think that channel has so heavy traffic, I'll shut up.
[11:17] <Linux4UnMe> blah
[11:18] <Blade20> karni, what i'm looking for is temps on my video card... with the grep commands i should be able to put that into my conky...
[11:18] <karni> Blade20: ah! sweet. let me install lscpi
[11:18] <Blade20> karni, thank you
[11:18] <Linux4UnMe> www.youtube.com/Linux4UnMe
[11:20] <karni> Blade20: What info do you want to extract exactly?
[11:20] <karni> Blade20: oh, temperatures?
[11:20] <auronandace> wishie: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[11:21] <Blade20> karni, the main thing i would like to get is the temp...
[11:21] <karni> Blade20: All right, I don't think it's in lspci. lemme see..
[11:21] <Blade20> karni, i have all my temps other than the video
[11:21] <auronandace> karni: you thinking of lm_sensors?
[11:21] <mutante> Blade20: i think this could http://www.lm-sensors.org/
[11:21] <karni> auronandace: exactly
[11:22] <wishie> auronandace: that worked. why didnt it work at boot time?
[11:22] <Blade20> karni, lspci will show my radeon 5670 and i can get the temp with aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature
[11:22] <auronandace> wishie: not sure sorry
[11:23] <karni> Blade20: oh, you can? so.. what are we looking for exactly then :)? that's on another computer? (nvidia / ati ?)
[11:23] <auronandace> wishie: it used to happen to me on xubuntu (but went away after some updates)
[11:24] <karni> Blade20: Is your graphic card Nvidia or ATI? (If ATI, I believe you already have a solution?)
[11:24] <wishie> auronandace: yeah, this is a *fresh* ubuntu install
[11:24] <Blade20> karni, it is ati... i can see my temps in terminal... but if i can find the grep command i can use that to write to conky
[11:24] <karni> Blade20: oh! paste that output of that command to paste.ubuntu.com , I'll help you.
[11:24] <milad_> hi every body ,it's my first time in IRC and i don't have the slightest clue what's happening here , is there a main discussion topic  here? can any body be so nice  to explain it to me!
[11:24] <karni> milad_: Welcome to IRC!
[11:24] <karni> milad_: If you have questions, just ask. Somebody might be able to help.
[11:25] <milad_> thank you
[11:25] <karni> milad_: Sometimes, if you talk longer, you can start a private conversation. Usually IRC has multiple channels, some of them are 'private' chats (you and somebody else).
[11:25] <milad_> as i understand , there is no main topic , just questions and answer, am i right?
[11:25] <karni> milad_: If you have more questions, you can join #ubuntu-irc channel.
[11:26] <ThePub> does "Document Viewer" have a reading mode with both sides of the book next to each other?
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> !topic | milad_
[11:26] <ThePub> oh, lol.. "dual"
[11:26] <karni> milad_: There are many channels. This is general Ubuntu channel. If you have UBuntu related question, just ask politely and somebody might help :)
[11:26] <milad_> thanks a lot
[11:27] <milad_> i don't have any questions right now
[11:27] <karni> milad_: You are most welcome.
[11:27] <ZenMaster> Hi.
[11:28] <ZenMaster> Anyone awake? :D
[11:28] <Blade20> karni, are you teasing me?
[11:28] <karni> Blade20: Come on, I want some grep fun :) Gimme that command output :)
[11:28] <karni> Blade20: No, not really. I guess I'm trying to understand your question.
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> milad_, First Welcome! If you have no ubuntu questions and just want to chat, please check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <ZenMaster> Anyone have any expierence running Ubuntu 11.04 on a HP D530?
[11:28] <karni> Blade20: If the output of aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature is the temperature, what do you need to grep?
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> Ooops, he's gone :-(
[11:29] <karni> Blade20: grep finds info. If you have the temperature, there's nothing to find. Does that command return the temperature? Sorry, I don't use conky, so I'm not sure why you need grep (which is a 'find' tool)
[11:29] <ZenMaster> Integrated intel graphics. No matter what I choose, Unity being the worst all my menus are all messed up. Briefly appearing and dis appearing as the mouse goes over the,
[11:29] <Blade20> karni, in conky i can not use the aticonfig.... but if i can get the same info with grep i can use that in conky
[11:29] <ThePub> is there a good pdf viewer on Linux that will do annotation/highlighting?
[11:30] <karni> Blade20: do you need administrator privileges to run aticonfig?
[11:30] <Blade20> karni, no
[11:30] <Blade20> karni, the command i need to use in conky will look something like this ..... Cpu Temp ${alignr}${execi 5 sensors | grep "temp2" | cut -d "+" -f2 | cut -c1-2}C
[11:30] <karni> Blade20: Since aticonfig is just any command like grep, why can't you use aticonfig in conky :<? /me is completely lost
[11:30] <karni> Blade20: right
[11:31] <Blade20> karni, well i guess if i could figure out the way to lay out the aticonfig command to get conky to read it right i could but i dont... i know the grep...
[11:31] <auronandace> !pdf | ThePub not sure what the features are of each but here are a few pdf readers:
[11:31] <karni> How about Cpu Temp ${alignr}${execi 5 <the ati command here>}C ?
[11:32] <karni> Blade20: I'm guessing that execi executres the following command every 5 seconds
[11:32] <Blade20> karni, i'll give it a try :)
[11:32] <karni> Blade20: if so, replace sensors | grep "temp2" | cut -d "+" -f2 | cut -c1-2 with your ati command
[11:32] <ThePub> auronandace: readers are just that, readers.  they don't offer any sort of annotation.
[11:32] <Blade20> karni, yes
[11:32] <karni> Blade20: :)
[11:32] <Blade20> karni, thank you
[11:33] <karni> Blade20: you're welcome. lemme know if it worked :)
[11:33] <ThePub> auronandace: ever use full acrobat on Windows or Mac that has annotation support?  It's pretty nifty, lets you markup a PDF with notes, etc then print those off.
[11:34] <karni> ThePub: We definitely need such software on linux. (Even a paid option.)
[11:34] <auronandace> ThePub: sorry, never needed them and i can't stand adobe software (you could try using it in wine or a windows vm)
[11:36] <Creator25> hi any one can help?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Creator25
[11:37] <karni> lotuspsychje: ;D
[11:37] <auronandace> Creator25: not really, you haven't told us the problem
[11:37] <Creator25> :)
[11:37] <Creator25> mount -o rw,remount rootfs /
[11:37] <Blade20> karni, nope... every thing looks right but no numbers ... so i will keep messing with the code and see what i can come up with... thank you for getting me on the right path
[11:38] <Creator25> why after a reboot every change that i make it dissapear
[11:38]  * karni looks at conky documentation for Blade20 
[11:39] <Blade20> Creator25, are you running on a live cd or live usb?
[11:39] <astraljava> Creator25: You need to put it into /etc/fstab so that it's permanent
[11:39] <Blade20> karni thank you :)
[11:39] <Creator25> :)
[11:39] <Creator25> thanks
[11:40] <Creator25> but it doesnt let me cuz is android
[11:40] <bazhang> Creator25, what does that have to do with ubuntu
[11:40] <astraljava> Creator25: ?! This is a #ubuntu support channel.
[11:40] <newton777> #loser
[11:40] <bazhang> #android Creator25
[11:40] <Creator25> yeah thanks i know
[11:41] <bazhang> Creator25, so why ask here
[11:41] <Creator25> cuz you are the real supporters :)
[11:42] <karni> I think that ↑ was quite a compliment for people hanging out here. Coming with an ubuntu-unrealted question, because people are so helpful :)
[11:43] <Creator25> :)
[11:43] <Blade20> karni, your encouraging bad behavior lol
[11:44] <karni> Blade20: I only said it was compliment ;) I didn't say it was good behaviour ^_^
[11:45] <hoopjumping> Hi, how can I let banshee auto mount my other hard drive where my music and videos reside, so that when I click on a song, it'll load it up?
[11:45] <astraljava> Yeah it's cool that the people that do great work in here get recognition, but not every ubuntu-related question gets answered, even, so why introduce others that will further reduce the ratio? So please, stick to the topic.
[11:45] <Blade20> karni, lol
[11:45] <astraljava> hoopjumping: Is that other drive auto-mounted by the system?
[11:45] <Blade20> karni, got it... ${color}GPU Temp:${color} ${execi 60 aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature}°C
[11:46] <karni> Blade20: hah! so it was it :) awesome
[11:47] <karni> Blade20: I've installed ubuntu, and.. well, the graphics are totally broken meh. I'll start googling.
[11:47]  * karni sees scrambled resolution
[11:47] <Zypeh> REGISTER Zypeh ciboy2008@gmail.com
[11:48] <Blade20> karni, what gpu
[11:48] <karni> Blade20: I've no idea. It's ASUS K52J, lemme check.
[11:48] <karni> Blade20: NVIDIA GeForce 310M (1GB)
[11:48] <kevin_> #s
[11:49] <wols_> karni: install the nvidia restricted drivers? or do you have hybrid graphics?
[11:49] <Blade20> karni, wols_ is the nvidia man... :)
[11:50] <karni> Blade20: got it ;)
[11:50] <karni> wols_: lemme check the specs, it's not my laptop (my aunts)
[11:50] <karni> Also, Ctrl+Alt+F1 tty does not work..
[11:52]  * karni tries another boot option
[11:52] <kiloblaster> hi everyone!
[11:53] <kiloblaster> is there someone that has a minute for me pls ?
[11:53] <wols_> kiloblaster: ask your real question and skip the fluff in the future
[11:53] <kiloblaster> lol
[11:53] <kiloblaster> okok
[11:54] <kiloblaster> i got an asus 1015pn and i want to install ubuntu 11.04 on it without removing windows
[11:55] <jrib> kiloblaster: put ubuntu disk in, follow on-screen directions
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> kiloblaster, This site should answer all of your questions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[11:57] <vishwa> i installed natty on my pc and facing problem with suspend and hibernate. is there any solution for this ?
[11:57] <kiloblaster> if i install it in windows or using wubi it will go slower right?
[11:58] <irk3z> kiloblaster maybey :D
[11:58] <jrib> kiloblaster: I'd recommend installing ubuntu to its own partition (just boot the cd)
[11:58] <kiloblaster> will it give me the dual boot?
[11:59] <wols_> kiloblaster: if you install it to a separate partition, yes it will
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> kiloblaster, With all due respect to the developers, avoid WUBI, like the plague. :-)
[11:59] <jrib> kiloblaster: if you choose that option, sure
[11:59] <wols_> it will with wubi too.
[11:59] <karni> wols_: heh.. good knews is that the broken resolution was a one time thing (first run after installation). Next two boots work fine. I really hope it was a one time thing, but I don't believe in miracles. Rather a bug. Anyhow, thanks for reaching out a helpful hand.
[11:59] <wols_> but I agree with Sidewinder1, don't use wubi if you can avoid it
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> wols_, :D
[12:00] <kiloblaster> ithink i will avoid that... so now i will 1. use gparted to give ubuntu some free space...2. install into that... and when i will boot i will have the option to chose winzozz or ubuntu right?
[12:01] <Sidewinder1> vishwa, Did you partition a "swap" partition?
[12:01] <karni> kiloblaster: Right, it will give you choice.
[12:01] <astraljava> Sidewinder1: From what I hear, wubi's great if you want to see how ubuntu looks like, and works. It's not a long-term solution, that's true.
[12:01] <vishwa> Sidewinder1: yes
[12:01] <karni> kiloblaster: Keep in mind - if you install windows *after* you install ubuntu, it will not give you the option - Windows will overwrite grub, and you'd have to fix it then.
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> kiloblaster, Make CERTAIN you defrag your NTFS partition prior to shrinking it!
[12:02] <kiloblaster> ok... imma trying it :)
[12:02] <karni> kiloblaster: You could resize it on Windows as well.
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> astraljava, Totally agree.
[12:03] <karni> kiloblaster: defrag + resize on windows (for playing with windows partition) is IMHO the safest option. it will reboot, and resize it for you. you then have space for ubuntu installation.
[12:04] <vishwa> Sidewinder1: i have a swap partition
[12:04] <Sidewinder1> kiloblaster, That's why I gave you the psychocats link; it explains everything in a "how-to" format; just about anything you wanna' know.
[12:04] <Stava> can i temporarily hide the gnome panel(s) and then get them back again after a while?
[12:04] <karni> Stava: Right click -> Properties -> Autohide?
[12:05] <kiloblaster> ok so i do it from windows... now i have to restart in windows back again...see ya all
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> it?
[12:05] <karni> Stava: you could probably use a custom command with Compiz magic to hide them temporarily, but that's a little playing.
[12:05] <Stava> karni, alright, thanks
[12:05] <karni> Sidewinder1: shrink windows partition
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> OIC
[12:06] <karni> Sidewinder1: OIC?
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> Oh I See.
[12:06] <karni> Sidewinder1: OIC :D
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> karni, Hope he defrags, first...:-(
[12:07] <terry> makara: Hello.
[12:07] <bernhard1> when i boot the server cd 11.4 in rescue mode to be able to make an image with DD the prompt has only a few commands: i need to be able to see the harddrives first to see which to clone to which drive.
[12:07] <Blade20> karni, you said that was a dual boot you are working on right?
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> karni, If not, we'll be sending him to #windows...
[12:07] <karni> Sidewinder1: even if he doesn't, windows wouldn't break itself, no worries. I mean, if you shrink it using My Computer -> Manage -> Storage sth sth -> shrinnk partition, that's rather safe.
[12:08] <karni> Sidewinder1: no worries. it's safer than shrinking it with gparted. I've done partition magic many times in my life (and went through many failures as well), he'll be fine :)
[12:08] <karni> Blade20: which do you mean? I've installed 10.04.3 on the second laptop. I have 11.04 + win7 on this laptop.
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> karni, Personally I wouldn't risk it (not defragging).
[12:08] <karni> Blade20: I work on Ubuntu 100%
[12:09] <karni> Sidewinder1: I wouldn't call risking it, but this is why I wrote defrag + resize on windows
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[12:09] <karni> :)
[12:09] <Blade20> karni, just a heads up on win 7 sp1 is 900mb and will not install if you have linux dual boot
[12:10] <karni> Blade20: I don't know what to say.. I think it makes me laugh. Thank you :) (I use win7 for two things = college stuff and GTAIV maybe one a year, nothing else ;))
[12:11] <karni> Blade20: That's really sad..
[12:12] <terry> karni: I have resized MS Windows partitions with all those methods as well, never lost anything yet.  (But I do defrag first, or at least check to see if a defrag has been done recently.)
[12:13] <Blade20> karni, just thought i would give you a heads up... when you try to install the sp1 update it will tell you that an unrecognized partition is on the disk and you need to remove it before sp1 can install
[12:13] <karni> terry: I did really weird things in my life. I recall resizing Vista partition manually, because windows wouldn't let it. I used fdisk from live USB to get sectors count, drop the partition, shrink ntfs system, and set up the partition manually. That was pretty hardcore, I recall :)
[12:14]  * Sidewinder1 Is not surprised at all.
[12:14] <karni> Blade20: Ehhh... :<
[12:14] <karni> Blade20: It just makes me sad in general, the windows-only policy etc. I simply won't update, but it's certainly an issue for people who dual boot on regular basis.
[12:15] <Blade20> and that is why i run only linux in my box :)
[12:15] <karni> ;)
[12:15] <terry> karni: If you resize it with fdisk, I don't think you'll save any data.  fdisk is not a non-destructive partitioning tool.
[12:15] <xgt001> hey folks... i installed kubuntu-desktop on natty... everything runs fine but fonts look really ugly... any fix?
[12:15] <terry> karni: But if you have free space, fdisk is fine to use to create NEW partitions.
[12:15] <Blade20> xgt001, update video drivers?
[12:16] <karni> terry: I didn't *resize* it ;) (It might have been something else, but it was a _low_ level terminal tool.). I droppped the partition boundaries manually from the partition table, resized ntfs (probably shrunk it after defrag to were the last data was), and set up the partition up again. It was the weirdest thing I ever did related to partitioning.
[12:16] <xgt001> Blade20: yes its the latest
[12:18] <terry> karni: I usually use fdisk for partitioning.  It's simpliest most straight forward partitioning tool - quick and easy.
[12:18] <Blade20> xgt001, are you using unity or gnome clasic
[12:18] <petsounds> xgt001: have u try setting font hinting and dpi from system settings?
[12:18] <terry> karni: And use fdisk to read partition tables. i.e.    sudo fdisk -l
[12:19] <xgt001> petsounds: i dono how to config?
[12:19] <karni> terry: I use either fdisk or gparted. Right, same here :)
[12:20] <chenthu> how to add to sources.list using terminal?
[12:20] <gry> chenthu: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <chenthu> gry: thank you
[12:21] <gry> Sure.
[12:21] <petsounds> xgt001: click kickoff menu, go to system settings, font and you can configure it from there.
[12:21] <industrial> With Ubuntu 11.04, How do I change Workspace Switcher settings? I want 9 workspaces and I want SUPER_L+1~9 to switch there (and with SHIFT for moving a window).
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> !gksudo
[12:22] <terry> industrial: 9 workspaces?  Why so many?
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> gry, I wasn't sure if nano was graphical, never used it. :-)
[12:22] <industrial> Because I always have that.
[12:23] <industrial> terry: I always have media on 5, IRC on 8, social on 7 etc.
[12:23] <terry> industrial: I set it to 2, but rarely use the second one.
[12:23] <industrial> well I do
[12:23] <industrial> so how do I do it?
[12:23] <industrial> is the question
[12:24] <industrial> I also like SUPER_L + HJKL to move through them
[12:24] <terry> industrial: I use workspace 1 and tty6  and only once in a while worksapce 2
[12:24] <xgt001> petsounds: i remember changing somethings long back in .fonts or something like tat... any idea?
[12:24] <gry> Sidewinder1: No worries. I would have suggested gksu gedit but some things are faster "in terminal". :-)
[12:24] <makara> terry?
[12:24] <terry> makara: Hello?
[12:24] <industrial> terry: yeas so how do I increase the number of workspaces?
[12:24] <Sidewinder1> gry, Understood :D
[12:24] <gry> :-)
[12:25] <hoopjumping> astraljava: Sorry for the delay. In regards to the drive, no. It's not auto mounted. I don't want it to automount on startup, because I enjoy how this is a a silent system, and the hard drive does have a slight sound.
[12:25] <petsounds> xgt001: like dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig config ?
[12:25] <industrial> terry: ?
[12:26] <bb_> szaisztok
[12:26] <bazhang> !hu | bb_
[12:26] <nankura> hey guys, im trying to install the new nouveau driver , i heard its got minimal 3D support and id love to give it a test run, so i go to the package manager and select the libgl-dri-expiremental and install the xorg nv driver but yet it doesnt show up in jockey. so im confused on what im doing wrong
[12:26] <petsounds> xgt001: sorry it's dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[12:26] <bb_> script
[12:26] <bb_> iulius
[12:27] <xgt001> petsounds: will try and rreport back
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> nankura, Did you reboot?
[12:27] <bb_> floodboot1
[12:27] <terry> industrial: I don't know.
[12:27] <bazhang> bb_, ubuntu support question?
[12:27] <nankura> uhm nope. ill try again haha,
[12:27] <industrial> you said you did it
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[12:27] <nankura> but just to clarify, am i picking the right packages?
[12:27] <nankura> for the latest nv driver
[12:27] <industrial> CHRIST what a channel ill fucking firuge it out myself >:(
[12:27] <nankura> i just wanna make sure im getting the right stuff
[12:27] <nankura> what main packages are needed
[12:27] <karni> industrial: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts "Switch to workspace X" - just set it to whatever you need
[12:28] <karni> ineiros: I have 8 workspaces set up, but use 5 at most.
[12:28] <iulius> bnjkuzl
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> nankura, I don't know anything about nouveau; just know you need a reboot after installing video drivers.
[12:29] <Kiff__> is there any way to extend the range of the brightness of the backlight. my new laptop is way too bright on the lowest setting
[12:29] <nankura> anyone know about the right packages for the newest 3D supported Nouveau driver?
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> nankura, If I remember correctly, it should prompt you for a reboot after installing, no?
[12:30] <nankura> i dont get a prompt
[12:30] <nankura> which makes me think im not selecting a package or missing something
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> nankura, Perhaps.
[12:30] <daleharvey> I need to install sun-java5-sdk on ubuntu 10.10, I used to use sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main multiverse" for that, but thats not available anymore
[12:31] <daleharvey> anyone know the correct location is these days?
[12:33] <bernhard1> booted with knoppix and through fdisk -l i see my two disks. i want to clone the installed disk to the other disk with dd. But how do i know which is the empty disk ?
 On disk /dev/sda it says.. doesnt contain a valid partition table..
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | iulius83
[12:34] <iulius83> zutzi
[12:34]  * slim_gaza come to swim with the penguins
[12:35] <slim_gaza> yay
[12:35] <astraljava> daleharvey: python-software-properties
[12:36] <eliasp> hi
[12:36] <astraljava> daleharvey: Oh, 10.10 you say? Let me double-check that.
[12:36] <slim_gaza> Hey guys anyone got a Thinkpad x121e, does it play nice with ubuntu, heard some wifi issues
[12:36] <karni> ineiros: tab fail, sorry. that was to industrial (who left right before I answered)
[12:37] <iulius83> jklé
[12:38] <eliasp> got a strange DNS issue on a Kubuntu 11.04 here... "nslookup foo.company.local" works, "ssh root@foo.company.local" doesn't work, only "ssh root@foo" does... my /etc/resolv.conf looks exactly the same as on my other hosts running Gentoo + Debian 5, where everything works as expected (FQDN + Hostname only)
[12:38] <eliasp> are there some DNS related special patches applied to glibc or openssh on *buntu?
[12:40] <astraljava> daleharvey: Should be that on maverick as well.
[12:41] <petsounds> slim_gaza: according to http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/laptops that model should play nicely with ubuntu
[12:41] <daleharvey> astraljava: "python-software-properties" ? I dont quite get what you mean
[12:42] <slim_gaza> This is why i love the penguin, thanks petsounds
[12:42] <nankura> ok, i installed xserver-xorg-video-nouveau , and libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental from the package manager which as i understood is supposed to give u the latest Nouveau driver + 3D support, and rebooted, and its not showing up in jockey as a driver
[12:43] <daleharvey> oh wait
[12:43] <daleharvey> the apt-add-resitory exists fine, its just that the repository doesnt exists
[12:44] <astraljava> daleharvey: Sorry, `sudo apt-get install python-software-properties`, thought you knew when you asked the location of apt-add-repository in the first place. :) Sorry, my bad.
[12:44] <daleharvey> or any other repository that contains sun-java5-jdk, that I can find
[12:44] <astraljava> daleharvey: Ahh..! Sorry again. Wait up a sec.
[12:45] <iulius83> ioliu
[12:46] <astraljava> daleharvey: sun-java* can be found in the partner repos. archive.canonical.com partner
[12:46] <daleharvey> I am trying to get http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html working, which it has done before
[12:46] <astraljava> daleharvey: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner
[12:47] <daleharvey> yup but on maverick its sun-java6, I need sun-java5
[12:47] <daleharvey> android is picky about these things :(
[12:47] <astraljava> daleharvey: Oh really? Wow. Again, a sec.
[12:48] <daleharvey> lol sorry bout this, yeh its a bit of a nightmare
[12:48] <astraljava> daleharvey: That was in dapper. :-/ Not sure you can get it real easy from anywhere.
[12:48] <astraljava> daleharvey: I'll see if I can locate it.
[12:50] <daleharvey> yeh im sure there must be one available somewhere, since this is what you have to use to compile android, I guess I should ask those guys
[12:50] <astraljava> daleharvey: Where are you located at? US, Europe, Asia?
[12:51] <daleharvey> europe
[12:52] <astraljava> daleharvey: Try this? http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-22-0ubuntu0.8.04_all.deb
[12:52] <astraljava> daleharvey: That's out of support, you do know that, right?
[12:52] <maxmanders> d
[12:53] <the_owl> who use armitage?
[12:53] <astraljava> daleharvey: Crap, you needed the jdk, hang on.
[12:53] <daleharvey> astraljava: well I wouldnt mind someone telling android :P
[12:53] <astraljava> daleharvey: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-jdk_1.5.0-22-0ubuntu0.8.04_i386.deb
[12:54] <astraljava> daleharvey: Yeah, I don't know about Java 5, but those packages won't get updated anymore.
[12:55] <dr_willis> amazing how after all these years of java being out.. and beaten to near death.. android brings it back :)
[12:55] <acidrain> though im running 20 different servers that took weeks to setup and have running properly. i have been so discouraged that my box will not stay connected to a wired connection though a bridge to a router.
[12:55] <slim_gaza> dr_willis, and google hires the java creator
[12:55] <acidrain> and there seems to be no way to make it try to automatically connect even if the router isnt "there"
[12:56] <daleharvey> can I add that as a repository so itll do the deps automatically? sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ubuntu multiverse"
[12:56] <daleharvey> doing it manually is fine though, thanks for all the help
[12:57] <astraljava> daleharvey: I wouldn't suggest adding an older repo, apt's db might get really confused. :)
[12:57] <astraljava> dr_willis: I hear ya...
[12:58] <vishwa> suspend/hibernate hangs the pc in natty. have tried the solution form http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[12:58] <vishwa> but no luck
[12:58] <vishwa> any help on this issue
[12:58] <dr_willis> I wonder if anyone else gets so used to their android phone they try to drag the top panel down to see if theres any status messages ... on their pc... :)
[13:00] <daleharvey> heh ok well I have a problem they seem to have a cyclic dependancy, sun-java5-demo needs sun-java5-jdk, and sun-java5-demo needs sun-java5-sdk
[13:00] <acidrain> dr_willis, take it to #android plz
[13:00] <acidrain> ;)
[13:02] <Kiff__> dr_willis: apparently iphone 5 has drag down status messages
[13:03] <dr_willis> Kiff__,  yea it seems the best way to handle all these constant messages   programs seem they must toss at us on a daily basis.
[13:04] <dr_willis> Perhaps it will get added to gnome3 someday.
[13:04] <Kiff__> bit hard to swipe a non touchscreen though
[13:05] <dr_willis> Kiff__,  i do a similer motion all the time with the mouse.. but thats to get my gnome-terminal showing.
[13:05] <Kiff__> i guess you can hover
[13:05] <dr_willis> hover would work even better.  most of the time you just glance at the history of messages anyway.
[13:06] <dr_willis> Is there a 'history' of notifications for the osd-notify system ubuntu uses? ive never noticed one.
[13:06] <astraljava> daleharvey: Check this out: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java5/+question/108411  Specifically comment #9
[13:09] <Singham> Hii..Is there any software like SHAZAM (Iphone) for ubuntu ??
[13:09] <dr_willis> Singham,  and it does what?
[13:10]  * daleharvey cries
[13:10] <daleharvey> oracle have screwed around with where to get java, and W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[13:10] <daleharvey> ill be able to fix it from here, thanks for all the help astraljava
[13:11] <astraljava> daleharvey: Good to hear, no prob.
[13:11] <Singham> dr_willis : it detects the artist/album/title of a song it hears with the iphones mic onthe web
[13:11] <astraljava> daleharvey: Oh, and one more thing, if you can't get the source package from jaunty's repos, try hardy's, those packages I linked to are there.
[13:12] <iulius83> zui
[13:16] <bb_> login.php
[13:17] <ubuntu> hello
[13:17] <ubuntu> guys
[13:17] <ubuntu> what's up
[13:17] <compdoc> stuff
[13:18] <terry> Well, hello ubuntu, was wondering if you would ever show up on this channel.
[13:18] <ubuntu> i search a software like winsetupfromusb that works on linux
[13:18] <ubuntu> plz answer me
[13:18] <edbian> ubuntu: please ask a question
[13:19] <terry> ubuntu: What exactly are you trying to do?
[13:20] <ubuntu> i wanna to create an usb windows bootable
[13:20] <terry> ubuntu: try #windows
[13:20] <ubuntu> common terry
[13:21] <terry> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[13:21] <FaTHeRBaDTouCH> Anybody use Funambol before?
[13:21] <ubuntu> pendrive work on windows terry
[13:21] <terry> yes
[13:22] <ubuntu> i work on ubuntu not linux
[13:22] <terry> Works on all computers.
[13:22] <edbian> ubuntu: ubuntu is linux
[13:22] <ubuntu> no i mean the operating system
[13:22] <FaTHeRBaDTouCH> I'm having problems getting mine running....I think...
[13:22] <dnivra> !ubuntu | ubuntu
[13:22] <terry> Works on all PCs
[13:22] <dnivra> is it just me or did that factoid look weird :D?
[13:23] <ubuntu> yeah but i realy nead that program now
[13:23] <ubuntu> if any body know plz
[13:23] <Singham> ubuntu : If you want to boot windows xp visit http://komku.blogspot.com/2008/11/install-windows-xp-using-usb-flash-disk.html
[13:24] <ubuntu> guys do u know WINSETUPFROMUSB
[13:24] <wols_>  !u
[13:24] <dr_willis> ubuntu,   never heard of it..
[13:25] <zaksoldier> !hi
[13:25] <dr_willis> people in #windows would know more about making a bootable flash drive to install windows from, then we would.
[13:25] <ubuntu> DR WILLIS
[13:25] <ericthehax> Hey, anyone good with sound and/or huge screwups?
[13:25] <dnivra> !caps | ubuntu
[13:25] <ubuntu> ok
[13:25] <dr_willis> ericthehax,   state the actual problem. :)
[13:26] <zaksoldier> !u
[13:26] <ubuntu> who is interested in ulitimate edition ?
[13:26] <kekse> @ubuntu, you need a tool to create a bootable usb stick because you want to install windows from it?
[13:26] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  we dont support all the ubuntu 'variants' here.
[13:26] <ubuntu> yeah something like that
[13:26] <wols_> dr_willis: it's more likely he means another "ultimate"
[13:26] <ubuntu> actionlly not for me
[13:26] <zaksoldier> !variants
[13:27] <dr_willis> wols_,  yep. but i pretty sure its not  on topic for here. :) but guess we will find out.
[13:27] <kekse> @ubuntu, okay so that's more windows-related than GNU/Linux-related so probably you'll try another channel?
[13:27] <ericthehax> I installed the realtek hd audio driver from the site cause I felt like doing something stupid I guess... Well, it broke my audio. How do I fix that? Is there a way to undo it?
[13:28] <wols_> ericthehax: what driver binary was installed?
[13:28] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  you found actual linux drivers for somthing at a company web site?
[13:28] <SoGood> wher can i find the temporary internet files?
[13:28] <dnivra> SoGood: /tmp usually
[13:28] <ericthehax> Yes, Dr. Willis. I did.
[13:28] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  was it c code?  so you did a ./configure, make, make install  routine?
[13:29] <wols_> SoGood: on windows. in ubuntu it's a directory under ~ which holds your cached browser files. depends on browser where
[13:29] <tayfun90> flexd
[13:29] <wols_> dr_willis: there are tons of those drivers. often only work on specific linux kernels. but most time don't work at all
[13:29] <SoGood> thnks let me try
[13:29] <tayfun90> hi, anyone here?
[13:30] <wols_> SoGood: ls -al ~/.* |less for a start
[13:30] <ericthehax> Oh, good point. I forgot to read the install script ^^
[13:31] <fosburg_> How do I set the 'desktop' to show application icons?
[13:31] <SoGood> wols_ : it's in the /home/user thnks
[13:32] <wols_> ericthehax: most likey you simply reinstall your kernel .deb
[13:32] <edbian> fosburg_: 11.04 unity?  Just drag some onto it :)
[13:33] <ericthehax> So.... It's really as easy as reinstalling a package? Wow, if that's true... *goes to try it*
[13:33] <shaneo> anyone know a good site for recent tcl scripts
[13:33] <chenthu> tar.gz is only a compresed file or can it be used to install?
[13:34] <wols_> chenthu: only a compressed file
[13:34] <tensorpudding> chenthu: it's an archive that is compressed, it could contain anything
[13:34] <edbian> chenthu: .tar.gz is a compression file. The contents can be anything.  It is possible that what's inside can be 'installed'
[13:34] <edbian> chenthu: like .zip
[13:34] <fosburg_> edbain--there was a time they came up automatically .  I do have another reason for asking.
[13:34] <coz_> chenthu,  generally it is a package you would have to manually install  aka  compile
[13:35] <chenthu>  i wanna install bitcoins i downloaded it in tar.gz form what command should i use in terminal?
[13:35] <tensorpudding> chenthu: it can contain software that has been compiled already, or it could contain source code, or it could contain just regular text files
[13:35] <tensorpudding> chenthu: you should be reading the instructions
[13:35] <leighman> how can I set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH or ZLIB_CFLAGS and ZLIB_LIBS so it's found by configure on 10.04?
[13:35] <coz_> chenthu,   right click the file and extract it
[13:35] <chenthu> wols_ , tensorpudding edbian coz_ : thank you
[13:36] <tensorpudding> chenthu: if you want to run bitcoin there might be a better way
[13:36] <edbian> chenthu: sure
[13:36] <jnsl_> hmm when i do sshfs@myserver.com
[13:36] <jnsl_> hmm when i do sshfs@myserver.com:somedir somedir it works but when i try to fstab it says connection reset by peer
[13:36] <coz_> chenthu,   after extracting that file,, take a look inside ,, if there is a .deb  package it can be installed if not,, look for the README and INSTALL  text files
[13:37] <Eduard> Hello everyone
[13:37] <edbian> Eduard: hi
[13:37] <tensorpudding> chenthu: there is probably a PPA for bitcoin
[13:37] <coz_> Eduard,  hey guy
[13:37] <fosburg_> I installed 'DraftSight'  and for some reason it works when app icons are shown and if it is a pulldown menu--app won't work
[13:37] <Eduard> Does anybody know how you can add new keys in gconf-editor? Mine doesn't seem to allow me it.
[13:37] <coz_> fosburg_,  do you have link so I can take a look at that ..where to download
[13:38] <ericthehax> so... Reinstalled linux-generic. And after a reboot everything should work again?
[13:39] <fosburg_> cos--not sure of 'link' or how it works.  there is alot about computers I don't know.
[13:40] <fosburg_> I'm mostly an application user
[13:40] <coz_> fosburg_,  what I meant was,,, where did you get the package for it?
[13:40] <edbian> fosburg_: He means a link to the website where you got that program (he assumes for some reason it did not come from the ubuntu software center)
[13:40] <mr202> hi all
[13:40] <Eduard> or, i can put my question the other way, how do u add programs to unity 2d launcher?
[13:41] <mr202> I'm having difficulties installing 11.04 LTS 32-bit on my desktop
[13:41] <dr_willis> Eduard,  lauch the app, then right click on the icon and it has a keep in launcher item.. normally
[13:41] <mr202> is there anyone around who can help me?
[13:41] <uncle_f3dor> mr202, what difficulties?
[13:41] <mr202> well, I can get it to boot the live-cd
[13:41] <edbian> mr202: What is the issue?
[13:42] <mr202> I then choose the installation option
[13:42] <fosburg_> It did not come from the 'Ubuntu soft ware center'  but the center did the install
[13:42] <edbian> mr202: All on one line please.  and get to the point :)
[13:42] <mr202> and after I can choose to include third-party software and download updates
[13:42] <mr202> it just seems to freeze
[13:42] <Eduard> dr_willis: omg! u saved my day!
[13:42] <mr202> i click next, and nothing happens :(
[13:42] <dr_willis> Eduard,  may be time to read up on a few unity user guides  that are on the web. :)
[13:42] <edbian> mr202: I've heard about that before.  Is this machine online when the ubuntu installer is running?  (is this a liveCd or liveUSB?)
[13:42] <marriedman624> I have Karmic installed on my computer with an AR5001 wireless card, I can connect to unsecured network just fine, but cannot connect to secured networks.........any know what I can do to fix this?
[13:43] <coz_> fosburg_,  right but where did you get it from,,
[13:43] <coz_> fosburg_,  if the software center installed it it means it was a .deb package  but you have to have clicked to download that from somewhere...yes?
[13:44] <leighman> how can I set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH or ZLIB_CFLAGS and ZLIB_LIBS so it's found by a configure file on 10.04?
[13:44] <mr202> so, I'm wondering what install option I might try to make it work... acpi=off / noapic / nolapic / ...
[13:44] <coz_> fosburg_,   open a terminal and type     draftsight
[13:44] <fosburg_> I need to quit for now--be back later,  thank you for the help
[13:45] <mr202> edbian, this machine is online
[13:45] <mr202> I'm running the install now without the quiet-option
[13:45] <ericthehax> ... And sadly, that didn't work.
[13:45] <edbian> mr202: Can you take a screenshot of the installer in it's frozen state? and paste it on imageshack.us
[13:45] <edbian> mr202: ok
[13:46] <uncle_f3dor> mr202: my two cents: i would try not installling third party software at installation time and install then after the system is bootable. Install just the basic stuff.
[13:46] <mr202> I think it's some hardware issue (although Win7 is working perfectly on the same box, but that doesn't mean anything)
[13:46] <coz_> marriedman624,   if no one here  has a solution , at this time,, you can also try the ##linux channel ,,,who is here depends a great deal on timezones  :)
[13:46] <mr202> okay, so it's now creating debconf-communicate fifo mechanism
[13:46] <mr202> after showing a lot of Buffer I/O errors
[13:46] <mr202> :/
[13:46] <marriedman624> coz_: Thanks, didn't know about that channel, i'll try there
[13:47] <mr202> device sr0, best to check out what device it is before going on with the installation
[13:47] <edbian> mr202: device sr0 is the CD
[13:47] <edbian> mr202: Many many i/o errors are very common on liveCDs
[13:47] <mr202> but I checked the media using the menu option
[13:47] <samtuke> anyone know where bluetooth pairing data is store? not in hcid.conf, not in main.conf, not in gconf registry, so where??
[13:47] <mr202> and no problem there...
[13:47] <uncle_f3dor> marriedman624: by protected do you mean wep, or wpa?
[13:48] <mr202> oh, by the way, had the same issue on a LiveUSB of the same .iso
[13:48] <mr202> that's why I reverted back to CD's as installation media
[13:48] <edbian> mr202: the freeze or the i/o errors?
[13:49] <mr202> the freeze
[13:49] <mr202> so, I'm now finally in the graphical menu where I choose my preferred language
[13:49] <ericthehax> Guise, I'm scared... I just got this thing the way i wanted it and all I was trying to do was figure out why my mic was incurably quiet... Would a pastebin help any? http://pastebin.com/9FCjysPQ
[13:49] <edbian> mr202: I don't remember the installer well enough to follow.  Is it now unfrozen?
[13:50] <ericthehax> *why my mic was incurably quiet, and then I broke my sound installing that
[13:50] <mr202> well, edbian , it now asks for the third-party option or the download-option...
[13:50] <ericthehax> (I'm not even awake, failtyping. sorry...)
[13:50] <mr202> so I left both unchecked and clicked 'forward'
[13:50] <mr202> and this is usually where it freezes
[13:50] <edbian> mr202: Just finish the install without doing anyting extra
[13:50] <edbian> mr202: Does it freeze regardless of the check boxes?
[13:50] <sunzaru> Is there a way to remote control my ubuntu machine, via windows...not a shell?
[13:51] <edbian> sunzaru: remote desktop :)
[13:51] <mr202> edbian, I'll now find out... I have tried all options except for checking NONE of the boxes
[13:51] <dr_willis> sunzaru,  vnc  is one way.
[13:51] <mr202> that's what I did now
[13:51] <coz_> ericthehax,  according to that pastebin,, unless I am reading it incorrectly,, at the bottom on line 45   rm -rf alsa-driver-1.0.24 > /dev/null  << means the also driver was removed  so "no sound"
[13:51] <mr202> but it seems like the usual thing is happening... rotating cursor, no more...
[13:51] <sunzaru> Kk tnx!
[13:51] <ubuntu> hello
[13:51] <krux> redownload the iso
[13:51] <edbian> mr202: haha ok :)
[13:51] <dr_willis> sunzaru,  teamviewer, vnc, but ssh is worth learning to use.
[13:52] <edbian> mr202: does the rest of the liveCD work?
[13:52] <mr202> i'll try to boot it without installing
[13:52] <mr202> just running the liveCD
[13:52] <mr202> one sec
[13:52] <sunzaru> Agreed.
[13:52] <max_> hi, I'm missing the memtest option when booting from the ubuntu 11.04 x64 livecd. what has to be done to launch memtest - I can only access a grub console
[13:52] <ubuntu> guys give me some softwares like winsetupfromusb that work on my ubuntu plz
[13:52] <edbian> mr202: I mean right now.  Is the whole thing frozen or just the installer
[13:53] <mr202> well, i can still see the sound and the network dialogs
[13:53] <mr202> and interact with them
[13:53] <mr202> so it doesn't freeze
[13:53] <ericthehax> coz: I'm not awake, my brain's not working. Logic and reason tells me I should reinstall the alsa driver, but I'm not quite sure anymore
[13:53] <mr202> the installer just keeps "working" on nothing
[13:53] <mr202> :)
[13:53] <ericthehax> What do, bro?
[13:53] <ubuntu> guys give me some softwares like winsetupfromusb that work on my ubuntu plz
[13:53] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  you could try using wine to run  winsetupfromusb
[13:54] <ubuntu> wine is really bad joke in ubuntu
[13:54] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  You may have to do some googling for that, or ask in #windows for similer tools .
[13:54] <ubuntu> it doesn't work
[13:54] <medhunter> any experience with netbook Dell inspiron mini 1018
[13:54] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  wine works well for me for the apps i need..
[13:54] <mr202> edbian, I'm booting into live now... see if everything works there...
[13:54] <spexi> wine works nicely for me too
[13:54] <mr202> without installing
[13:54] <ericthehax> ubuntu: I dunno, I can play Touhou in wine just fine.
[13:54] <dr_willis> most of my popcap games work. :)
[13:55] <ericthehax> I know a lot of Mac users who can't >:3
[13:55] <mr202> meanwhile I'm downloading another ISO on my laptop
[13:55] <edbian> mr202: k
[13:55] <ubuntu> it keeps tell me that the file is not an uxecutable fil
[13:55] <mr202> are there any reasons NOT to try and install the 64-bit version?
[13:55] <edbian> mr202: good idea, burn slow (or use liveUSB, I recommend liveUSB if possible)
[13:55] <edbian> mr202: 64bit is fine
[13:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  so thats your logic for it being a joke? RUn it from the command line then.. wine /path/to/whatever.exe
[13:56] <mr202> yeah, but edbian , how do I create the liveUSB from within Fedora ?
[13:56] <dr_willis> the 'file needs to be an executable' as a security measure is a bit of a joke..
[13:56] <mr202> this laptop is running Fedora
[13:56] <mr202> ...
[13:56] <sunzaru> It would rock if steam was for ubuntu also.  There use to be something like is.  Anyone remember that?
[13:56] <dr_willis> mr202,  the pendrivelinux site has a lot of  tools for that task
[13:56] <dr_willis> sunzaru,  steam does work in wine. and theres some GPL variant thats steam line i recall.. i forget its name..
[13:57] <dr_willis> steam like... :)
[13:57] <edbian> mr202: there are many ways: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[13:57] <dr_willis> I must have it tagged at my delicious.com/dr_willis links somewhere...
[13:57] <ubuntu> ok guys an other questions
[13:57] <ericthehax> Oh yes. Steam for Linux? First I hear of this, GOOD-BYE WINDOWS FOREVER!
[13:57] <sunzaru> Mmm hahahaha
[13:57] <ubuntu> what's the better virtual machine for ubuntu ???
[13:57] <ericthehax> inb4 virtualbox
[13:58] <edbian> mr202: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating%20a%20bootable%20Ubuntu%20USB%20flash%20drive
[13:58] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  steam works in wine on linux.
[13:58] <ericthehax> Okay, trying another reboot. if this works, I would do anything in excitement. Even hug a creeper.
[13:58] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  thats not to say that ALL the games work..
[13:59] <ericthehax> dr_willis: I meant liek, if they started adding native linux support
[13:59] <samtuke> does dbus have persistent storage, like a db that it uses? if so, how do you access it? is this where bluetooth pairing data is stored?
[13:59] <makara> anyone know how to connect two ubuntu pcs with an ethernet cable?
[13:59] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  theres supposed to be a native client 'in the works' but ive not seen it mentioned in ages
[13:59] <chrometiger> on 11.04 classic "no effects"   how can I disable  recent documents ?
[13:59] <edbian> makara: You can't unless you have a crossover cable or you use a switch
[13:59] <mr202> I've installed unetbootin
[14:00] <dr_willis> makara,  depends on the nics used. You may need a cross over cable.   then plug them in. set up static ip's and ping each other.. done..
[14:00] <ericthehax> Yeah, and they NEVER mentioned the mac client and then "oh look a mac client"
[14:00] <makara> ebdian: i have a crossover cable
[14:00] <kekse> @ubuntu: 1st, microsoft has a philosophy of not publishing their standards so it's pretty hard to code things like ntfs or an install-install-from-usb tool. 2nd why should anybody invest their time to create a tool that helps Microsoft rather than the open source community? doesn't make sense
[14:00] <mr202> thought it was only a Windows-app
[14:00] <mr202> :)
[14:00] <dr_willis> makara,  if you have gb/1000 speed nic's then you dont need a crossoiver cable i belive.
[14:00] <mr202> btw, edbian, the LiveCD seems to be working if I don't choose the install option
[14:00] <mr202> have a working desktop now
[14:00] <dr_willis> makara,  plug in, set static ip,  or install a dhcp server on one.
[14:00] <edbian> makara: as dr_willis said, set static IPs ping each other (then probably scp is easiest to pass files)
[14:00] <kekse> @ubuntu write an apeal to microsoft, say you need such a tool for GNU/Linux
[14:00] <edbian> mr202: Great :/
[14:00] <makara> dr_willis: i got as far as pinging. now i want to share the internet connection of the one with the other
[14:01] <makara> how do i install a dhcp server?
[14:01] <dr_willis> makara,  then you need to do a bit more work.. ive not done 'ics' in years.
[14:01] <dr_willis> !ics
[14:01] <ericthehax> brb rebooting and praying to Raptor Jesus that this works
[14:01] <edbian> mr202: I suggest just downloading the ISO again (check the md5 sum) and make a liveUSB instead of liveCD. If the problem persists I can suggest some more things
[14:01] <dr_willis> you as basically building your own router. :)
[14:01] <mr202> I'll try that
[14:01] <mr202> thank god for my high speed internet connection
[14:01] <mr202> :)
[14:01] <edbian> :)
[14:02] <chrometiger> on 11.04 classic "no effects"   how can I disable  recent documents ?
[14:02] <makara> dr_willis, edbian, doesn't ubuntu have something for this?
[14:02] <makara> in the network connections dialog there is a checkbox which says something about sharing internet connection
[14:02] <edbian> makara: Check that box :P
[14:03] <dr_willis> makara,  Ive never used the feature. not needed to since i gave up Dialup. :)
[14:04] <dr_willis> makara,  you may need to set the dns servers, and default gateway on the remote box to be the ip# of the main box.
[14:04] <mr202> I just feel like such a noob
[14:04] <mr202> although I have been using linux for over two years
[14:04] <mr202> never encountered these issues
[14:04] <mr202> :s
[14:05] <edbian> mr202: the installer is picky lately IMO
[14:05] <ericthehax> ;_; Okay, I give up on trying. What package do I reinstall?
[14:06] <jnsl_> in my fstab im mounting my server with sshfs, but all files are mounted with permission "drwxrwxrwx" how can i keep files existing permissions ?
[14:07] <ericthehax> I have about an hour before I leave. Please help. What package do I reinstall?
[14:07] <dr_willis> For those interested in a 'steam like interface' for GPL/Linux type games  theres this -> http://en.djl-linux.org/   I forget who was asking about it... its a bit out of date it seems. but it does have some neat games on it.
[14:07] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  is it a user mounting it? or root?
[14:07] <jnsl_> dr_willis user is mounting
[14:08] <chrometiger> on 11.04 classic "no effects"   how can I disable  recent documents ?
[14:08] <ionite> how can i detect my mp3 player plugged to USB?
[14:08] <mr202> well... edbian
[14:08] <Deamosseraph> Top o the morning folks
[14:08] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  and if the user uses the sshfs command to mouint it - it also has the same permissions?
[14:08] <mr202> I'm using unetbootin to build a liveUSB disk
[14:08] <edbian> mr202: yay :)
[14:08] <mr202> and even this seems to have its difficulties on the amd64 image
[14:08] <makara_> anyone to explain sharing an internet connection?
[14:08] <mr202> :(
[14:09] <mr202> seems to be hanging on the casper/filesystem.squashfs
[14:09] <edbian> ionite: did you plug it in already?
[14:09] <edbian> mr202: give it some time
[14:10] <mr202> oh, indeed... damn... progress bars that don't show progress, oh, the logic...
[14:10] <mr202> okay,
[14:10] <mr202> it's finished
[14:10] <dr_willis> makara_,  years ago there was a 'ics' guide out that went into details.   but what part of it are you needing explained?
[14:10] <edbian> mr202: :) great, boot that (you made a USB drive right?)
[14:10] <mr202> I'll plug it in the dekstop's USB port
[14:10] <mr202> yeah, I made a USB drive ;)
[14:10] <sniya> Can I ask for help here?
[14:11] <edbian> sniya: yes
[14:11] <edbian> !ask
 if i mount with commandline permissions are as they should
[14:11] <makara_> dr_willis: i don't know how to build my own router
[14:11] <jnsl_> but not with fstab
[14:12] <CatFish> hi all sotty fot last night realy sorry . ik ben er niet meer ............................................................ sorry no skittel on fok irc
[14:12] <makara_> dr_willis: I thought I should start with logging in remotely using the program ssh
[14:12] <CatFish> ill like fok that
[14:12] <makara_> can you help me with that?
[14:12] <sniya> I've been trying to solve my wifi issues following this guide " https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43 - No Internet access " but I don't seem to have the PATCH that they mention on my install media. Where can I get it?
[14:12] <coz_> sniya,   what is the question?
[14:12] <dr_willis> makara_,  by setting up ics  you are basically doing just that... installing the services and tools a router normally would use...
[14:13] <dr_willis> makara_,  you read up at --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing    yet?
[14:13] <mr202> edbian,
[14:13] <edbian> mr202: yep
[14:13] <krux> i was just gonna post that
[14:13] <mr202> I get an immediate error booting from USB
[14:13] <krux> :)
[14:13] <mr202> error: no such device: ...
[14:13] <krux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing <<< read on that..
[14:13] <GTAXL> Anybody know what file rotation means?
[14:14] <acidrain> GTAXL, its kinda like crop rotation
[14:14] <mr202> i'm trying again as we speak...
[14:14] <makara_> dr_willis: let me have a look at this document and then I'll get back if I'm still stuck. thank you
[14:14] <acidrain> keeps the files fresh
[14:14] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  thats weird.   as a dirty work around you could mount the sshfs from rc.local via a command   that runs as the user. (su username -c command) *i think*   but
[14:14] <edbian> mr202: k
[14:14] <GTAXL> ok
[14:14] <acidrain> lol. i was jk
[14:14] <Wojo> Hello there.
[14:14] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  i cant think of why the fstab entry would be altering the permissions unles sits somehow getting ran as root.
[14:15] <coz_> GTAXL,  mm  I have seen archive rotation ,, log rotation,, not sure about "file rotation"
[14:15] <dr_willis> makara_,  let me just add that a $30 router is a handy tool to have. :)
[14:15] <GTAXL> ok. What would log rotation mean coz_?
[14:15] <Wojo> I would like to ask about one thing, I've noticed that on my old Toshiba L10-192 instalation disks of Ubuntu works untill 10.04 was arrived, the isolinux shows fine and then the instalator is loading and eventaully I got black screen, no response to any comnbination
[14:15] <dr_willis> log.old --> log.1  and older logs get moved to older names...
[14:15] <sniya> Where can I get the b43-fwcutter patch?
[14:16] <coz_> GTAXL,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[14:16] <jnsl_> dr_willis ok, thanks, ill go through the fstab line one more time to see if theres something
[14:16] <ericthehax> Okay, now I'm real confused. I got the HD Audio driver from here http://www.realtek.com/downloads/ and it broke my sound.  Basically, I shouldn't have done that and I've met with a terrible fate. If anyone knows how to undo this, please, PLEASE help. I'm completely lost.
[14:16] <GTAXL> ok
[14:16] <Wojo> If I remove splash and quiet from booting kernel line, there is no issues untill that "switch" to the black screen
[14:16] <edbian> Wojo: have you tried adding nomodeset
[14:16] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  you may want to check the sshfs homepage/faq - there may be some option thats being overlooked.
[14:16] <Wojo> edbian: I will try, thanks
[14:16] <mr202> edbian, got into the graphical installer again
[14:16] <edbian> sniya: patch?
[14:16] <mr202> clicked "forward" without checking the 3rdparty or download options
[14:16] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  tried a 'sudo make uninstall' in the source directory for the drivers?
[14:17] <mr202> still waiting ...
[14:17] <CatFish> kock koch i am so not here cool song best = laats min from the song
[14:17] <CatFish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFjioJZaA7E&feature=BFa&list=PL07E1D3AC7735A274&index=43
[14:17] <edbian> ericthehax: can you link to what you've done?
[14:17] <edbian> mr202: k
[14:17] <sniya> The guide I'm using says there shold be a patch also with my install media but it isn't there.
[14:17] <edbian> sniya: not sure what you mean. What card do you have?  I can probably get it working
[14:17] <sniya> This is the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43 - No Internet access
[14:18] <edbian> sniya: a-ha no internet access huh :(
[14:18] <sniya> Yes.
[14:18] <oCean> CatFish: stop that
[14:18] <CatFish> floodbot1
[14:18] <sniya> One second and I'll check the card
[14:19] <edbian> sniya: This is a good guide.  I'm very familiar
[14:19] <CatFish> oeps sorry o cean sorry
[14:19] <squid22> hello
[14:20] <mr202> edbian, still nothing
[14:21] <edbian> mr202: frozen ?
[14:21] <sniya> Broadcom model number BCM4311
[14:21] <mr202> well, rotating cursor
[14:21] <edbian> sniya: You're following the correct guide
[14:21] <edbian> mr202: open gparted
[14:21] <mr202> I can still check the top bar, network- and sound settings
[14:21] <mr202> well, I have no terminal
[14:21] <ericthehax> http://pastebin.com/1Je1Gk2u Okay...
[14:21] <edbian> sniya: you have a /pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter   ?
[14:22] <sniya> yes
[14:22] <edbian> mr202: open gparted
[14:22] <edbian> sniya: then run the command
[14:22] <edbian> sniya: BTW, this is MUCH easier if you can get the machine online via a wire for about 10 minutes
[14:22] <SoGood> is ther eany way on how to mod the BIOS of my AAO110?
[14:22] <mr202> edbian: "Failed to run /user/sbin/gparted as user root"
[14:22] <ericthehax> I am sure that isn't gonna restore it... I gotta reinstall packages now, I'm guessing?
[14:23] <sniya> my ethernet won't work either anymore
[14:23] <Wojo> edbian: Unfortunately, the same thing happens with "nomodeset"
[14:23] <mr202> "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"
[14:23] <edbian> mr202: run it via the gui
[14:23] <Wojo> I just got nice splash, it's loading and then it's all gone, black screen, no hope.
[14:23] <edbian> Wojo: then I'm not sure :(
[14:23] <mr202> edbian, I did, just double-clicked it...
[14:23] <SubjectOne> hello
[14:23] <Wojo> edbian: Thakns for your effords.
[14:23] <edbian> Wojo: Sorry! :/
[14:24] <edbian> mr202: sudo gparted in a term    ?
[14:24] <sniya> The first two commands of step 3 work fine but I get "cannot open input file broadcom-w1..." for the third part
[14:24] <mr202> I have no terminal access
[14:24] <mr202> it's the installer environment
[14:24] <dr_willis> ericthehax,  as a test. did you try booting to an older kenel if one exists?
[14:24] <mr202> only system settings menu is available
[14:24] <mr202> :/
[14:24] <edbian> mr202: the liveCD is a full OS.  What are you talking about?
[14:24] <SubjectOne> i'll be back
[14:25] <mr202> oh, my bad... I chose the install-option again... one second
[14:25] <mr202> restarting right now
[14:25] <ericthehax> Older kernel? I newly installed Ubuntu on here a few days ago after Windows broke.
[14:25] <mr202> I'll choose the Live option
[14:25] <edbian> mr202: choose 'try ubuntu' you can install either way (it's a stupid choice)
[14:26] <Wojo> edbian: I meant it, no worries :-)
[14:26] <edbian> mr202:
[14:26] <Nikyo> Hello.. Is there a way to compile a .EXE file in Linux using gcc that will run in Windows 64 or 32 OS ? Either xp or 7 ?
[14:26] <edbian> Wojo: :)
[14:26] <Wojo> edbian: I will just try 11.04 or something
[14:26] <edbian> Nikyo: That's called cross compiling
[14:26] <Wojo> maybe alternative cd
[14:26] <edbian> Nikyo: It is possilbe yes
[14:26] <mr202> okay, I'll boot it Live...
[14:26] <edbian> Wojo: ok :)
[14:26] <Wojo> there is no graphic gui there, am I right?
[14:27] <edbian> Wojo: in the alternate installer, that's right
[14:27] <Lennyg2006> quit
[14:27] <sunzaru> Anyone using 11.4 out there? I tend to not upgrade asap.
[14:27] <edbian> sunzaru: I am
[14:27] <sniya> Alternatively, I might have better luck solving my Wifi problem if Ubuntu recognised my ethernet connection. Anywhere I can try for that?
[14:27] <Nikyo> edbian: Thanks, I guess I'll start searching on cross compiling then :)
[14:27] <wols_> sniya: what ethernet chip?
[14:28] <edbian> sniya: If you plug the wire in do the lights come on?
[14:28] <edbian> Nikyo: sure, some package called ming or something lets you do it
[14:28] <sniya> One sec
[14:28] <edbian> sniya: ok
[14:29] <sniya> no lights
[14:29] <sunzaru> 3dbian: woth upgraging from 10.4?
[14:29] <edbian> sniya: Something is wrong physically
[14:29] <Nikyo> edbian: mingw32... I tried that.. did not seem to do that well.. I'll read up more on that one. Thanks.. have a great weekend :)
[14:29] <edbian> sunzaru: IDK, that's opinion
[14:29] <edbian> Nikyo: that's it!
[14:29] <sniya> ok
[14:29] <edbian> Nikyo: you too :)
[14:29] <Nikyo> ;)
[14:29] <sunzaru> ./nod
[14:29] <mr202> okay, edbian
[14:29] <sniya> I'll go looking for a new lead - this one is quite old
[14:30] <mr202> I'm in gparted now
[14:30] <edbian> sniya: what shows up in the output of sudo lspci | grep Network
[14:30] <edbian> mr202:
[14:30] <edbian> mr202: Do any of the partitions have any errors? red !'s or orange triangles or similar?
[14:30] <mr202> yup
[14:30] <mr202> they do
[14:30] <edbian> mr202: I thought so.  Are they NTFS partitions?
[14:30] <mr202> well... one of them is
[14:30] <mr202> the 500 GB one that I'm trying to install to
[14:31] <mr202> it's a 420GB Win7 NTFS partition and a 80GB unallocated one
[14:31] <mr202> that's what it shows in Win7
[14:31] <mr202> but here it shows 498GB unallocated :/
[14:31] <edbian> mr202: Use windows to check all your partitions.  Something is wrong with them and it is causing hte installer to crash
[14:31] <mr202> okay
[14:31] <mr202> gparted is stating the same thing
[14:32] <mr202> "try making a fresh GPT table and using parted's rescue feature"
[14:32] <edbian> mr202: yay
 Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev01)
[14:32] <mr202> you, my man, have solved the biggest question mark of the whole week...
[14:32] <edbian> mr202: I don't really know the details of fixing it other than making a new partition table (GPT) may delete everything
[14:32] <mr202> now I know where to look...
[14:32] <mr202> I'll try first from Win7
[14:32] <mr202> and make a backup ;)
[14:32] <mr202> if I lose my windows, well so be it
[14:32] <mr202> :D
[14:33] <edbian> sniya: Yeah I know that.  Did you double click the package b43-fwcutter in /main/b/b43-fwcutter/   ?
[14:33] <edbian> mr202: :D
[14:33] <edbian> sniya: Don't worry about the patch.  If there isn't one I believe we won't need it.
[14:33] <sniya> i moved it to home and then double clicked on it
[14:33] <edbian> sniya: did it install?
[14:34] <sniya> Yes
[14:34] <mr202> uh oh, BOOTMGR is missing
[14:34] <mr202> man, I love windoze ;)
[14:34] <edbian> mr202: hahah :(
[14:34] <edbian> sniya: alright, do step two.  Download those things
[14:34] <Tech-1> lol
[14:35] <mr202> well, the whole reason of installing Ubuntu is that I'm an ICT student
[14:35] <edbian> mr202: ict ?
[14:35] <mr202> trying to work on his C programming assignment
[14:35] <sunzaru> Bbl, thanks all!
[14:35] <mr202> Informatics & Communication Technologies
[14:36] <mr202> and Visual Studio is just crap, so I wanted to work in Vim/gcc
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:36] <Tech-1> info gathering ?
[14:36] <mr202> so why would I need windows after all ?
[14:36] <coz_> mr202,  they are requireing ubuntu for this?
[14:36] <mr202> they give us the choice
[14:36] <sniya> OK done
[14:36] <coz_> interesting   and pretty cool,,,
[14:36] <mr202> windows or ubuntu, as long as you can get your projects done
[14:36] <coz_> mr202,  excellent news :)
[14:36] <edbian> sniya: step 3
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> mr202, Totally OT, I know but, is BOOTMGR in vista/7 the equivalent of ntldr in the previous? Prooves how long I've been off Win. :-)
[14:37] <Tech-1> don't use windoze, i wouldnt give them the credit
[14:37] <edbian> sniya: what questions do you have?
[14:37] <mr202> Sidewinder1, it is
[14:37] <mr202> ;)
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> Thanx!
[14:37] <mr202> okay, so in windows - as expected - the disk shows fine
[14:37] <Menno> “Airplane passengers and crews traveling through just one thunderstorm of lightening-emitted X-rays, gamma rays and high-energy electrons could be exposed to radiation amounts equal to 400 chest X-rays.”
[14:38] <Menno> Does the ubuntu gang believe this?
[14:38] <mr202> 100 MB system reserved, 407 GB NTFS, 60GB unallocated
[14:38] <mr202> ;)
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> !ot | Menno
[14:38] <sniya> The third
[14:38] <sniya> step gave me an error
[14:38] <edbian> mr202: check the anyway
[14:38] <edbian> sniya: what does it say?
[14:39] <pfauly> hi all - need some noob help. my 64 bit notebook crushed yesterday (probably the graphics chipset) and right now i just have an old i686 notebook
[14:39] <sniya> Cannot open input file broadcom-w1-4.150.5/driver/w1_apsta_mimo.o
[14:39] <pfauly> so cld sb pls help me out with the new installation of the 32 bit kernel?
[14:40] <adam_> hello
[14:40] <pfauly> right now im working with a live-usb stick
[14:40] <adam_> do you speak polish ? ;/
[14:40] <mr202> well, edbian , in the good old days I would've used fdisk /fixmbr to resolve the issue
[14:40] <mr202> but as this is Win7, no option to do that as well...
[14:40] <askreet> Can't seem to find KTechLab in any repos, but it's on Launchpad... anyone using this?
[14:40] <edbian> sniya: ummm, I'm not sure exactly what each command does but they depend on each other.  Run them all again in order and watch more carefully for errors.  They are in /home/you/  right?
[14:41] <edbian> mr202: :)
[14:41] <edbian> mr202: They took fixmbr out?!
[14:41] <mr202> they took fdisk out
[14:41] <mr202> :)
[14:41] <adam_> i don't understand
[14:41] <sniya> Yes. OK. I'll do that and come back to you
[14:41] <edbian> mr202: ?
[14:41] <edbian> mr202: fdisk is still in ubuntu
[14:41] <mr202> only way to do it is by using a boot from dvd and then running bootsect.exe in repair mode
[14:41] <mr202> well yeah
[14:41] <mr202> but not in Win7
[14:42] <mr202> :p
[14:42] <mr202> I'll just go for the clean install
[14:42] <mr202> let gparted fix the disk
[14:42] <mr202> and problem solved :)
[14:42] <adam_> There is someone in Polish
[14:42] <jadams|home> anyone have any experience running ubuntu on a macbook air or a similar laptop?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !pl
[14:42] <edbian> mr202: gparted is not good at fixing ntfs partitions.  I strongly recommend you use windows to fix it
[14:42] <adam_> :)
[14:43] <d34dly51l3nc3> l3nc3
[14:43] <adam_> #ubuntu-pl
[14:43] <d34dly51l3nc3> http://www.nebra.org/nuke/admin.php
[14:43] <pfauly> can i just install the new 11.04 32 bit on the old x64 partitions (boot, root, usr,opt,var)? what happens to the programm data of the x64 programs?
[14:44] <mr202> oh, edbian , thx for the tip
[14:44] <mr202> I'll look for something then...
[14:44] <mr202> something other than downloading Windows 7 from MSDNAA because I don't have the DVD here :)
[14:45] <nankura> Hey guys, im looking to install gnome 3. and yes im aware its unstable and may break things, thats why im on my second hard drive to play with it. but im not sure which package to download, one is just called "gnome" which has alot of features etc. and is a 500MB download. the other is gnome3-session
[14:47] <nankura> anyone?
[14:48] <szal> !patience
[14:48] <pfauly> _>
[14:48] <mr202> nankura, if you're doing this on a separate harddrive...
[14:48] <mr202> why not use a distro that has Gnome3 onboard ?
[14:49] <nankura> yea im using my "safely destroy data hard drive"
[14:49] <nankura> to test stuff  :D
[14:49] <nankura> well i tried fedora
[14:49] <mr202> as did I
[14:49] <OY1R> a few weeks ago wmv  video files lost audio, help?
[14:49] <nankura> but it keeps getting some unexpected error
[14:49] <mr202> I'm using it as we speak :)
[14:49] <nankura> during  the formatting
[14:49] <nankura> idk why
[14:49] <FloodBot1> nankura: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <nankura> which package did you install mr202?
[14:49] <mr202> ow... well... then it might indeed be easier to install Gnome3 in Ubuntu, check www.gnome3.org for more info
[14:49] <mr202> I did not
[14:50] <nankura> hm?
[14:50] <HelloWorld321> I'm installing phpMyAdmin, and it fails in the configuration step because "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"  .... well of course root access fails with no password!  How do I get the Ubuntu Software Center to configure phpMyAdmin with a password (or username/password pair)?
[14:50] <mr202> I am using Fedora with Gnome 3, as I said before. I'm on here because Ubuntu is what I use on my main desktop (or at least, that's what I'm trying to use)
[14:51] <Deamosseraph> HelloWorld321, if I remember correctly..thats a problem of phpMyAdmin not being able to connect to MySQL
[14:52] <Deamosseraph> there should be a config file in the phpmyadmin directory...I dont remember where it is though :( Been awhile since ive used phpMyAdmin
[14:52] <Guest36916> Hi,   :D
[14:53] <marym> i upgraded to 11.04, how to I enable the non-free stuff
[14:54] <marym> like nvidia driver would be one
[14:54] <szal> !nvidia | marym
[14:54] <szal> !restricted | marym
[14:54] <marym> ty
[14:57] <Guest36916> Hi, Dose any one know how I can play windows games on Ubuntu 10.10? I have a dual boot, but I really hate windows.
[14:57] <pfauly> any possibility to keep a the user profiles(/home and/or /usr) when downgrading from 11.04 64 bit to 32 bit?
[14:57] <coz_> Guest36916,   you would have to use  wine to in stall them however not all windows games will work
[14:57] <pfauly> Guest36916:  wine shd work
[14:58] <marym> ahh.. it's ati not nvidia
[14:59] <coz_> Guest36916,   after   sudo apt-get install wine is completed  you might also wnat to go to the #winehq   channel ,, they can lead you to a link where reviews of windows games  are listed  according to how well they work via wine
[14:59] <mobidyc> quand je démarre, je reste bloqué à l'écran violet, je pense que c'est à cause du raid5 mais je n'ai aucun moyen de switch sur un terminal pour voir ce qu'il se passe.
[14:59] <szal> anyhoo, same instruction page
[14:59] <mobidyc> miss sorry
[14:59] <szal> !fr | mobidyc
[14:59] <FBT> Are there ANY users with experience with Funambol?
[14:59] <coz_> FBT,   I dont have any experience with it ,,,sorry
[15:00] <Guest36916> coz_, pfauly, Ya I have wine installed, but like you said, not all games work. I have tryed wine before and it made my Ubuntu go all funny. Any other suggestions?
[15:00] <FBT> coz_, thanks for noting your helplessness
[15:00] <pfauly> yeah,use windows for gaming :>
[15:00] <EgyParadox> marym: System->Administration->Synaptic->Settings->Repositories->check restricted & multiverse ->reload
[15:00] <pfauly> sry :/
[15:00] <EgyParadox> maryam:check  additional drivers
[15:01] <coz_> Guest36916,  well  the first thing I would do is go to the #winehq  channel and discuss it with them ,, they have  the resources to perhaps get things running if possible
[15:01] <EgyParadox> marym:check  additional drivers
[15:01] <coz_> FBT,  your welcome :)
[15:01] <FBT> coz_, actually because of you I found #funambol  ty
[15:01] <coz_> cool
[15:02] <Guest36916> coz_ , Ok cool, thanks for the assistance. . . .  :D
[15:02] <coz_> Guest36916,  no problem
[15:03] <makara> dr_willis: Its taken me 3 or 4 days of battling to get this thing working. For the record, it couldn't have been simpler. There is a special setting in 10.04 at least and above that allows one pc to share internet with another via a crossover cable. Thank you for your help.
[15:03] <Guest36916> coz_ , Hey Sorry How do I change my nick name again?
[15:03] <farchord> Hey guys, I got a good question for you. Anyone that is relatively versed in linux can tell me a way to.... 'awesomize' my linux desktop? I got 12gb of ram, and a quad core phenom II cpu, I got enough room for my awesomization project.
[15:03] <szal> Guest36916: /nick newnick
[15:03] <coz_> Guest36916,   where you t ype here  type   /nick  andyournewtnick
[15:03] <farchord> By awesomize, I mean, cool gadgets, interesting nic-nacs, and so on
[15:03] <SoGood> someone with a SSD netbook?
[15:04] <jetscreamer> yeah me send it over i'll do good things with it
[15:04] <tensorpudding> farchord: that's not really on-topic
[15:04] <tensorpudding> farchord: this channel is for support
[15:04] <coz_> BlueWolf,  there you go
[15:04] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Thanks once again. . . .
[15:04] <coz_> no problem
[15:04] <farchord> tensorpudding, oh, sorry
[15:05] <tensorpudding> farchord: maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <FBT> How does everyone here sync thier iphone contacts/ calendar to ubuntu?
[15:07] <dr_willis> makara,  compared to the good old days. :)  it would have taken 3-4 days to do what that single click did.. just took you 3 days to find where to click. heh.
[15:08] <coz_> FBT,   likely via ubuntuone    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/
[15:08] <FBT> coz_, before I read that you have to pay for it don't you?
[15:09] <coz_> FBT,  no   ubuntuone is free I believe
[15:09] <xangua> 5gb for free
[15:09] <coz_> FBT,    but again,, I dont have much experience with it.. so read up
[15:09] <coz_> FBT,  there you go  5 gigs free
[15:09] <xangua> if you want more, you pay FBT ;)
[15:09] <makara> dr_willis: yeah. lets hope they don't change things now
[15:13] <BlueWolf> coz_ , What do you know about upgrading? I want to upgrade my Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04. Is it best to reinstall my machine completely ( Using a CD with the new Ubuntu ) or Upgrade it ?
[15:13] <Juo> where is the best place to store programs, I'm sick of them all being in my root directory
[15:14] <coz_> BlueWolf,   well... I always suggest a clean install once you have backed up,, however,, but you can upgrade  hold on there should be a link
[15:14] <coz_> !upgrade
[15:14] <coz_> !upgrade | BlueWolf
[15:15] <aroman> Hey, what would be the command to restore a directory to normal file permissions?
[15:15] <OY1R> is there a fix for wmv files with no audio ?
[15:17] <auronandace> Juo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[15:17] <Juo> ah thanks
[15:17] <auronandace> np
[15:18] <Juo> now ill finally have a clue what goes where, heh
[15:20] <shishirdwivedi20> i have ubuntu 11.04 but today i installed window 7, after installation when i  booted my PC then window automatically booted without showing ubuntu operating system ,when i checked properties of window it show only single  i.e window 7 OS available in my PC how can i get my thats screen which show all operating system name through which i can boot any OS?
[15:20] <lion42> shishirdwivedi20, did you by chance accidentally over-write the entire disc
[15:20] <auronandace> !grub | shishirdwivedi20
[15:20] <lion42> and not just a partition for windows?
[15:20] <BlueWolf> coz_ , So your opinion is a clean install? Because my cousin has Ubuntu and he said he had problems with the upgrade. And he certainly knows more than me.
[15:21] <coz_> BlueWolf,  almost always,, the reason being,, with a clean install,, if anything goes wrong,, at the least you know it is not because of the upgrade
[15:21] <coz_> BlueWolf,  and issues with upgrades are painful to track down
[15:21] <shishirdwivedi20> lion42 no  ubuntu partition is safe i checked by using ubuntu cd
[15:22] <coz_> sometimes
[15:22] <overrider_> Hossa - where does grub2 store its splash screen? i chose one of the images in /usr/share/images/grub/ as my splashscreen, which works fine. Then i edited chosen image, saved it. Reboot - and grub still shows same old image, as if it is caching it somewhere. update-grub same result. Any clues?
[15:22] <jnsl_> Is it possible to get a progress bar when using cp? like when you use scp ?
[15:22] <auronandace> shishirdwivedi20: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:22] <lion42> shishirdwivedi20, then follow auronandace's recommendations to restore grub
[15:22] <lion42> Or that. :P
[15:22] <shishirdwivedi20> lion45  ok
[15:23] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Ok, Then I will do a clean Install. What Ubuntu do you have?
[15:23] <coz_> BlueWolf,  at the moment  11.04
[15:24] <coz_> BlueWolf,  just be sure you have backed up any important files,,
[15:25] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Yes will do, I have wiped out a hard disk before, Learnt my lesson.:D
[15:25] <coz_> BlueWolf,  cool :)
[15:26] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Are you using Firefox to browse the Internet? If you are dose it slow your machine down?
[15:26] <XLV> shishirdwivedi20, easy way through windows.. install easybcd, add a grub2 entry to windows bootloader ( bcd ) for linux
[15:26] <coz_> BlueWolf,  I am and no it doesnt,, something on your end most likely
[15:27] <coz_> BlueWolf,  do the clean install ,, if you like you can use the mini cd  which is a net in stall
[15:27] <coz_> !mini | BlueWolf
[15:28] <coz_> BlueWolf,  the only thing to keep in mind with the mini is at some point a list of what to install will appear,,, arrows to scroll the list and the Space bar to tick a box  NOT  enter
[15:28] <prashant> hello all
[15:28] <coz_> hey
[15:29] <prashant> can anyone tell me how to install from .tar.gz
[15:29] <dr_willis> prashant:  totally depends on whats in it.. that is just an 'archive'
[15:30] <prashant> dr_willis, sir i m trying to install utorrent
[15:30] <Abhijit> !compile | prashant
[15:30] <auronandace> !info utorrent
[15:31] <Atamisk> roughly how difficult is it to use a touch screen in ubuntu nowadays?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> utorrent will run in wine auronandace , but there's no reson to use it on linux
[15:32] <ira> hello. sorry my bad english. I have a problem. I had installed Ubuntu 10.04 and add 2 users. When I open audio\video file in one user and switch to another user, then in second user there is no sound.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !torrent
[15:32] <_ListerWork> hi, how can i install apxs?
[15:33] <maahes> auronandace~> utorrent is not free software, nor is it linux software: try transmission, rtorrent, ctorrent, deluge, bittornado or running utorrent in wine. Deluge is very similar to utorrent
[15:33] <auronandace> BluesKaj: i like using transmission (better to recommend native apps)
[15:34] <ciezr> can't remember the reason, but I settled with deluge FYI
[15:34] <auronandace> maahes: i was looking for prashant
[15:34] <Clowerweb> utorrent installs toolbars even when you tell it not to -.- so lame
[15:34] <BluesKaj> auronandace, ktorrent is my fav, I'm on kde
[15:34] <BlueWolf> coz_, Well when I did the Ubuntu 10.10 clean install this problem followed, my machine slowed down every now and then ( When it felt like it ) It took about a minute to move to the next desktop the one time, It can't be my machine. I have tryed checking the Processor and Memory usage and I can't find out what is doing it. The problem seems to be with all the Ubuntu's I have had, I'm not entirely sure if there is something wrong with the way I am running Ubunt
[15:34] <BlueWolf> or something I'm not doing. Any ideas or suggestions?
[15:34] <maahes> my personal favorite is rtorrent
[15:35] <coz_> BlueWolf,  well use the mini cd  for installation and see what happens
[15:35] <xangua> maahes: There is already utorrent for windows for you to know ;)
[15:35] <BluesKaj> maahes,  if you like shell apps
[15:35] <xangua> the web client at least
[15:35] <Clowerweb> anyone know if there's a way to access my linux localhost server from my windows 7 vm (vmware)?
[15:35] <ira> hello. sorry my bad english. I have a problem. I had installed Ubuntu 10.04 and add 2 users. When I open audio\video file in one user and switch to another user, then in second user there is no sound.
[15:35] <xangua> i mean for linux* maahes
[15:35] <maahes> xangua~> the web client is not the same thing :P And it's not "For linux"
[15:36] <minaaa> i am having issues using usb_modswitch with my modem. what device id should i give? please help me
[15:36] <Bovola> ciao a tutti
[15:37] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Well I'm actually tyring to avoid using the Mini CD. I'm just wondering if you know of such problems?
[15:37] <xangua> maahes: well it is the utorrent server + web client ;)
[15:37] <minaaa> i have a 3g modem with brandname visiontek. btw what params should i give in usb_modeswitch to make it work in linux?
[15:37] <WizardDio> any1 whit LenovoS10-3t here?
[15:37] <xangua> well the one that wanted utorrent leave, so no sense talking about it now :S
[15:38] <coz_> BlueWolf,  no  not that I can recall,, there is always the chance that yourhardware has some issues   but  i would still go ahead and clean install and lets go from there
[15:39] <Cozey> Hello. I have a fresh install of Natty, apt-get updated. I want to install jde, but it's deps are missing. What am I doing wrong? I have added multiverse and canonical repositories. This site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/jde says 'not available' for those dependencies (like cedet-contrib)
[15:40] <WizardDio> has any 1 have to command for touchscreen on Lenovo S10-3t
[15:40] <wols_> Cozey: apt-get install <package you want>  and them show us the output what it misses to work
[15:41] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Ok, I will start downloading it, but I can't reinstall until I get a Big backup disk. Have there been any problems with the Ubuntu 11.04? And do I reinstall Windows 7 as well?
[15:41] <Cozey> one second..
[15:42] <coz_> BlueWolf,  I have heard a few issues with windows 7,, there are several tutorials on line for dual booting with 11.04  ,, I dont think you will have to reinstall windows however
[15:42] <minaaa> hello can anyone help me with usb_modeswitch?
[15:42] <Zeik> Is EXA or XAA still available in 11.04?
[15:42] <Cozey> wols_: https://gist.github.com/1129442
[15:42] <coz_> BlueWolf, after downloading dont forget to check the  md5sum on that iso image
[15:42] <coz_> BlueWolf,  make sure t he iso has not been corrupted before buring
[15:42] <minaaa> BlueWolf: you can install it on windows with WUBI. it'll work without problems
[15:43] <wols_> !info https://gist.github.com/1129442
[15:43] <wols_> !Info cedet-contrib
[15:43] <BlueWolf> coz_ , Ok will do, Thanks for putting up with my Irritating problems. :D  :D  :D
[15:44] <coz_> BlueWolf,  not at all ,, that;s why we are all here :)
[15:44] <BlueWolf> coz_ , :D
[15:44] <WizardDio> has any 1  know how to enable the touch screen on Lenovo s10-3t under ubuntu 10.04
[15:45] <oCean> wols_: Cozey apparently cedet has been orphaned since it's in emacs23.2 - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617267
[15:45] <Zeik> Is there anyway possible to get support and updates for Intrepid?
[15:45] <xangua> Zeik:  no
[15:45] <minaaa> i am still here without receiving any help. let me repeat for the last time? CAN ANYONE HELP ME CONFIGURE MY 3G MODEM WITH USB_MODESWITCH?
[15:46] <coz_> minaaa,   I dont have experience with that in particular,, also understand that people who may  have knowledge about it may not be online at this time,, all depends on timezones
[15:46] <Zeik> minaaa: Right click on the usb_modeswitch file and go into it's properties. Checkmark it to be an executable program. Close that window and then double click on it.
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> Zeik, You might have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Why%20choosing%20a%20fresh%20install
[15:46] <ksx4system> minaaa: i remember that on Debian usb_modeswitch was NOT needed on newer (afair 2.6.32+) kernels
[15:47] <ksx4system> minaa: so, what kernel do you run? (uname -a to check) which version of Ubuntu (number please)?
[15:47] <minaaa> zeik: i used chmod +x on it but it asks me for product id or device id for the 3g modem to be entered as parameter which i do not know
[15:47] <Sidewinder1> Zeik, ^ My last was in regards to your Intrepid question. ^
[15:47] <minaaa> ksx4system: i am using ubuntu 10.10
[15:47] <Cozey> oCean: so jde must me updated and have deps fixed? or can i force it to install
[15:48] <Zeik> Sidewinder: Thank you. But i am actually wanting Intrepid due to it being able to use EXA. I can't stand using this UXA accelleration method.
[15:48] <Zeik> minaaa: Hmm. What kind of 3G device are you using? Is it CricKet EVO 3G?
[15:49] <minaaa> when i insert the 3g modem it shows up as cd drive on windows but it doesnt get detected as a cd drive either in ubuntu
[15:49] <rickard> Hi, how do I "drag" windows to another worksspace?
[15:49] <ksx4system> minaaa: afaics you run 2.6.35 kernel. most popular in Europe 3G modems should run perfectly even with bare bones wvdial
[15:49] <minaaa> zeik: it is a hsdpa modem named visiontek
[15:49] <Myrtti> minaaa: should it?
[15:49] <coz_> rickard,   are you running compiz?
[15:49] <rickard> compiz is installed
[15:49] <rickard> but I cant find it when search for it
[15:49] <coz_> rickard,  is it running?
[15:50] <coz_> rickard,  this is 11.04
[15:50] <minaaa> let me give u all a picture of the 3g modem
[15:50] <Zeik> minaaa: That is called "Zero CD". It runs one time in windows to install it's drivers and then hides it's self afterwards.
[15:50] <rickard> coz_: correct
[15:50] <coz_> rickard,  and are you using the Unity interface or classic mode?
[15:50] <ksx4system> minaaa: cool, i can't even check what chipset it has... manufacturer's website is down
[15:50] <rickard> coz_: I believe I use the unity.. how do i determine?
[15:51] <Zeik> minaaa: Those drivers are useless for a Linux installation. Let me look up how to run a flipswitch. I haven't done it in over 3 years. So i am lacking on memory at this point.
[15:51] <minaaa> its named visiontek
[15:51] <coz_> rickard,   Unity will have the large launcher  on the left side of the screen
[15:51] <oCean> Cozey: I think it means that, once emacs23 is installed, the dependency for cedet is already solved. That means you would have to force an install without checking for dependencies - but I'm not sure how to do that and whether you will have all dependencies solved
[15:51] <minaaa> the modem has a picture here http://images02.olx.in/ui/10/93/38/1293439681_151038538_1-Visiontek-3G-Modem-new-ones-for-sale-with-1Year-warranty-Vizianagaram.jpg
[15:51] <rickard> coz_, ok, I run unity
[15:51] <Cozey> !info cogre
[15:52] <Cozey> oCean: how to check what happend to other deps?
[15:52] <alan_> good night
[15:52] <WizardDio> any1 here whit touch screen  expiriance
[15:52] <minaaa> tried usb_modeswitch with several params but it isnt a sierra or huawei. the modeswitch software is probably made for those modems
[15:52] <coz_> rickard,  well on that launcher is the  expo   button which will show all workspaces,, you can drag that way ,, also I believe if you  have a focused window,, shift+ctrl+alt+arrows should also move it to another workspace
[15:52] <coz_> rickard,  let me know if either of them work for you
[15:53] <minaaa> ksx4system: their crappy website is here http://www.visiontek.co.in/3g-2g-wireless-products/82gh.html
[15:53] <minaaa> zeik: cant it work in linux?
[15:54] <Zeik> minaaa: Ok, supposedly by default the new Ubuntu has the drivers built into it for activation of broadband 3G cards.
[15:54] <rickard> coz, it works :)   I am used to do it like in osx.. drag with mouse and use cmd+arrow
[15:54] <minaaa> zeik: i am on ubuntu 10.10
[15:54] <ksx4system> minaaa: unreachable for me and/or down :( i'll check out picture you've linked to
[15:54] <coz_> rickard,  there are also other options under ccsm,,, if you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[15:54] <coz_> rickard,   hit alt+F2  type   ccsm
[15:54] <Zeik> minaaa: Plug it in and reboot your system. When it is back up. Check out your internet connection icon at the top of the screen. There should be an extra connection in it called "Mobile Device". Click on that to connect.
[15:55] <minaaa> ksx4system: probably the indian company is geoblocking users. what a bad policy
[15:55] <Zeik> minaaa: I hate the new Ubuntu setups... I loved 8.10 and now i am stuck with 11.04. : /
[15:55] <oCean> Cozey: searching for those dependencies, results in just more posts from others having similar issues with JDE on 11.04. Unfortunately I don't see how it's solved
[15:55] <minaaa> zeik: i have 7.10 fiesty running on my router
[15:56] <minaaa> zeik: let me try your method. and i shall come back here to tell you the results
[15:56] <Cozey> oCean: that's what i've seen too. thanks !
[15:56] <Zeik> minaaa: You probably have it full updated too though. I can't get updates for 8.10 due to it being outdated.
[15:56] <minaaa> zeik: no on 7.10 apt-get doesnt fetch anything ;)
[15:56] <avernos> i've installed audacity and several other audio tools and banshee isnt working anymore, it just doesnt start playing music
[15:56] <oCean> Cozey: have you emacs23 installed?
[15:56] <minaaa> zeik: but its faster on the old pc
[15:56] <Zeik> minaaa: Ouch. Yeah, i can't be having that.
[15:56] <coz_> ok I have to break here,, be back later
[15:57] <minaaa> zeik: the newer one is so slow on the old celeron ;)
[15:57] <minaaa> zeik: gonna reboot to linux and try brb
[15:57] <Zeik> minaaa: Ok, and good luck.
[15:57] <abhijain> how to install font in ubuntu
[15:57] <Cozey> oCean: yes
[15:57] <phaidros> anyone here running icecast2 on maverick? if so, does <on-connect> work for you? icecast2 in maverick is not triggering scripts, same config on debian works :/
[15:57] <Cozey> oCean: maybe i can install jde to $HOME from source.
[15:58] <Zeik> abhijain: You should be able to download the preferred font that you want. Open it's containing folder. Then you double click on the font and it will add itself to your system fonts list.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> avernos, try vlc
[15:59] <oCean> Cozey: when using apt-get install, you can add  --ignore-missing  but this would only help if all dependencies are solved by emacs23
[16:00] <abhijain> Zeik: i have downloaded this unable to install
[16:00] <Cozey> i tried that but it seems to ignore the option
[16:00] <abhijain> Zeik: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=eb8d3d3d53&view=att&th=1319d7537cf3e5cd&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_gr0x46nx1&zw
[16:00] <Cozey> and still produces the same message
[16:00] <Benkinooby> avernos, try a different player... if this one is not working either, then the audio editing stuff might have hanged your system output... try a rebbot, and/or check your system sound settings for the output devices
[16:00] <oCean> Cozey: then I'm out of options :(
[16:00] <aatish> hello. how do i disable screen saver when playing a movie in gnome mplayer. thanks in advance
[16:01] <Zeik> abhijain: I am unsure what link you sent me. I would have to log in to google to view the page you are recieving your file from.
[16:01] <firmevato> by default mplayer in gnome won't turn the screensaver on until the media is done playing on my system. however ymmv
[16:02] <Cozey> oCean: ok thanks anyway. i will just try to install it to $HOME. i was making my own packages back in slackware time. i didn't use debian/ubuntu much, what's why i'm asking - i don't want to mess the dep in the system.
[16:02] <rickard> How do I add additional workspaces?
[16:02] <aatish> firmevato: i compiled gnome mplayer. i didnt installed it by ubuntu software manager
[16:04] <marym> is there an alternative to screenlets, running gnome
[16:05] <HelloWorld321> I uninstalled phpMyAdmin from Ubuntu Software Center, and installed it afresh from Synaptic Package Manager (a trcik I picked up from watching edbian in this channel), and it asked me for my credentials and was able to configure phpMyAdmin automatically for me
[16:07] <krux> gdesklets
[16:10] <rickard> is it a limit of 4 workspaces in natty?
[16:11] <tensorpudding> you can have more than 4
[16:12] <rickard> tensorpudding, I downloaded compiz-config-manager.. why isnt there default?
[16:12] <Benkinooby> rickard, that does not depend on natty (=ubuntu version) but in your graphical user interface, wich is in your case, unity, i guess. either way, nearly all interface that support multiple workspaces, support far more than 4 workspaces
[16:12] <tensorpudding> rickard: i'm not sure
[16:14] <Bill_MI> Hey folks.  Anyone else on 10.04-LTS getting the old shutdown problem with fstab/cifs?  The runlevel trick stopped working!
[16:15] <Bill_MI> Looking for some way to tell what is or isn't happening.
[16:15] <rickb|server> anyone tried macbuntu on 11.04?
[16:27] <min|dvir|us> Hi. "** (gnome-shell:6045): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_new_for_name: assertion `connection != NULL' failed"
[16:27] <min|dvir|us> What does that mean?
[16:27] <min|dvir|us> Also "** (gnome-shell:6045): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed"
[16:27] <min|dvir|us> Then a segfault.
[16:27] <netking> why do people keep calling it 'ubanto'
[16:27] <netking> is it a term of affection?
[16:28] <rickb|server> lol
[16:28] <IT> XD
[16:28] <rickb|server> i work at a managed services company and some people call it some pretty terrible things.
[16:28] <min|dvir|us> Youbuntoo.
[16:28] <IT> netking
[16:28] <IT> https://answers.launchpad.net/awn/+question/22358
[16:28] <IT> see if this helps
[16:28] <min|dvir|us> That is what my boss calls it.
[16:29] <IT> well, i heard some funny hebrew names for ubuntu, one which there is no 'u' in :S
[16:29] <netking> really? Did you tell him he's wrong
[16:29] <k3v1n> Does anybody have experience with IOMMU and KVM?
[16:29] <min|dvir|us> No.
[16:30] <Bill_MI> Hey folks.  Anyone else on 10.04-LTS getting the old shutdown problem with fstab/cifs?  The runlevel trick stopped working on me!
[16:30] <IT> but, as long as people are using Linux - it's ok
[16:32] <raven> ffmpeg: some problems with encoding of edited (projectx) ts (tv) files. "broken headers" - anything i can do?
[16:35] <piks3l> b'soir
[16:36] <zteam_> Hi
[16:37] <k3v1n> Hi
[16:38] <piks3l> Hey
[16:38] <zteam_> I'm trying to point a game Installed (inside a wineprefix) with playonlinux, but for some reason playonlinux always change that
[16:38] <zteam_> I'm trying to point it to use a iso-file
[16:38] <Neo31> hello, how can I change all variables showed by the command local please
[16:38] <zteam_> byt playonlinux always reset that changes
[16:39] <Neo31> I had to edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n on fedora, what is the equivalent on ubuntu?
[16:39] <dbsantos> hello, I want a bootable pendrive that runs on a linux filesystem (not NTFS, FAT or FAT32)... somebody knows how to do it? I want to boot HIREN's on it
[16:39] <bernhard1> How to fix this ? happend after cloning a disk with DD.
[16:39] <bernhard1> mountall: fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1
[16:40] <zteam_> dbsantos, why would u not want FAT on that thing?
[16:40] <Neo31> dbsantos look for a package like liveusb-creator
[16:40] <F-B-T> 141 million per millilitre
[16:40] <Neo31> or somethign like that
[16:41] <punter> How do I add a menu item on an icon in the launcher I created, when I right-click on it?
[16:41] <dbsantos> I want be free of virus, because I will use this pendrive in my job... do you know?
[16:42] <dbsantos> every tutorials that I saw, talk about FAT, NTFS, FAT32...
[16:43] <dbsantos> I will use it to fix problems, and I want to be sure that the pendrive "is clean"
[16:44] <bernhard1> How to fix this ? happend after cloning a disk with DD.
[16:44] <bernhard1> while booting: mountall: fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1
[16:44] <bernhard1> Could not write bytes: broken pipe
[16:44] <bernhard1> After that i get the login prompt.
[16:44] <FloodBot1> bernhard1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <k3v1n> dbsantos, AVG has a good liveCD that can be installed onto a pendrive. I use it for virus removal. It's linux based.
[16:44] <escott> dbsantos, it may depend on the bios. to make it bootable with certain bioses you may need to have fat or eltorrito.
[16:44] <escott> bernhard1, have you tried running fsck manually
[16:44] <zteam_> dbsantos, if your job uses Windows you won't be to ready a usb stick with anything else than FAT or NTFS (unless you are installing some third-party driver)
[16:45] <ciezr> dbsantos: a neat trick, create a folder named "autorun.inf" on the fat32 pendrive
[16:45] <zteam_> dbsantos, and if you are booting from that live-usb it can't get a virus anyway...
[16:46] <The_Pugilist> using ubuntu 11.04 can i encrypt a users home directory after the account has been created or does it have to be done when the user is created?
[16:46] <lion42> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1404662
[16:47] <The_Pugilist> ty lion42
[16:47] <lion42> If you just installed, though, I would recommend reinstalling and doing a proper encrypted disk setup. Faster/easier.
[16:47] <dbsantos> so... what's the better filesystem to put on pendrive? FAT, FAT32 or NTFS?
[16:48] <Abhijit> i think youtube have changed something. youtube-dl and minitube are not working to download videos. help please. how to download?
[16:48] <dbsantos> to use as bootable tool
[16:48] <lion42> Abhijit, not an ubuntu issue.
[16:48] <zteam_> dbsantos,  well you could just that make it so any changes you made on the stick will be resetted once you reboot
[16:49] <The_Pugilist> well the thing is lion42, i am setting up an ftp server where each users' home directory needs to be encrypted
[16:49] <zteam_> dbsantos, that way any virus you will get can't survive once you restarted it
[16:49] <Abhijit> lion42, ok.
[16:49] <lion42> The_Pugilist, sorry, no idea about that.
[16:49] <The_Pugilist> no worries
[16:49] <dr_willis> The_Pugilist:  you are worried about security enough to encrypt the dirs.. but using ftp? wouldent ssh be a better idea from a security point of view?
[16:49] <OmegaForte> Mornin'. Any standing issues?
[16:49] <Deamosseraph> yeah..SSH would be better if security was a problem
[16:50] <dbsantos> ok... about the health of filesystem on a pendrive, what's the better (FAT, FAT32 or NTFS)?
[16:50] <Deamosseraph> and for the encryption, I would have done it at install TBH
[16:50] <The_Pugilist> well yes, dr_willis, but i am looking to implement a remote backup service, and this requires me to use ftp/sftp
[16:50] <zteam_> dbsantos, but there possible are ways to format with another filesystem too, but I'm not sure if you will be able too boot from a stick with ext2 for example
[16:50] <Deamosseraph> FAT32 is normal on a pendrive
[16:50] <Abhijit> Deamosseraph, ntfs or fat32
[16:50] <Abhijit> Deamosseraph, not for health but for compatibility
[16:50] <Deamosseraph> Use SFTP, Puglist
[16:50] <zteam_> dbsantos, FAT32 is what I recommend
[16:50] <dr_willis> sftp is ssh isent it...
[16:51] <faint545> how do u check the version of a package by using "apt-cache search" ?
[16:51] <dbsantos> thankyou everybody
[16:51] <Abhijit> aaah
[16:51] <dr_willis> dbsantos:  its more of a matter of whats being done to the filesystems.. how many writes mainly.. then the actual fs used.
[16:51] <Abhijit> Deamosseraph, wrong person
[16:51] <Abhijit> dbsantos, those msgs were for you
[16:51] <Deamosseraph> I dont only know the ins and outs of FAT/FAT32
[16:51] <Deamosseraph> err..I know only even
[16:52] <Deamosseraph> Damn forensics class made us tear apart FAT32 :P
[16:52] <dbsantos> I will make a new pendrive now... thanks a lot
[16:56] <kevin_> i got this error when i tried moving the files using the terminal
[16:56] <kevin_> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/sda5/MUSIK/western_classical/Antonio Vivaldi - 12 Concerti for Oboe and Violin op. 7/CD2/Concerto N\3709 en si b\202mol majeur, RV 373 - 08 - II. Grave.mp3': Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[16:57] <kevin_> Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[16:57] <Deamosseraph> jesus thats a long path/filename
[16:57] <escott> kevin_, can you try and copy the file using a wildcard character
[16:57] <th0r> kevin_: I think the commas might be causing a problem
[16:57] <dr_willis> either somthing got pasted wrong or you got ` and ' characters being used as quotes...
[16:58] <punter_> Hi all
[16:58] <opt1mus> Aye, rename it.
[16:58] <dr_willis> kevin_:  you dident use a ` as a quote when you ment '  did you?
[16:59] <kevin_> no i did not use `
[16:59] <kevin_> see this snapshot
[16:59] <dr_willis> odd that paste had a ` there.
[16:59] <kevin_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/snapshot9i.png/
[17:00] <kevin_> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/sda5/MUSIK/western_classical/Antonio Vivaldi - 12 Concerti for Oboe and Violin op. 7/CD2/Concerto N\3709 en si b\202mol majeur, RV 373 - 08 - II. Grave.mp3': Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[17:00] <dr_willis> Hmm. funny characters in the names.. diamonds and numbers.
[17:00] <tensorpudding> kevin_: it looks like you have a filename encoding issue
[17:00] <dr_willis> it may be a good idea to rename those files and get rid of those exttra characters.  I never use languages with those sortof characters.
[17:00] <tensorpudding> you should rename the file with unicode
[17:01] <kevin_> this error was shown by the terminal when i tired copying the entire directory
[17:01] <dr_willis> !info unicode
[17:02] <tensorpudding> unicode isn't a program, it's a mapping of characters
[17:02] <tensorpudding> i meant utf-8, which is a character encoding for unicode
[17:02] <rumpe1> kevin_, if it's ntfs/fat maybe try a mount-option for the correct encoding
[17:02] <saulotoledo> Hello! I can't add/share printers um my lan with Cups. At Linux clients I can deetect the printer, but when trying print I receive "Can't connect to printer, trying again in 30 sec..."
[17:02] <tensorpudding> utf-8 is the default character encoding
[17:04] <rumpe1> mount
[17:04] <kevin_> why mount-option?
[17:06] <FroyoShark> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:06] <FroyoShark> oops
[17:06] <escott> kevin_, if its ntfs or fat and using something other than utf-8 then you need to verify that the kernel knows to translate the encoding in that fs into utf-8
[17:06] <rumpe1> kevin_, try mounting with "nls=utf8" option
[17:07] <kevin_> but my partitions are premounted
[17:07] <rumpe1> kevin_, what's "premounted"?
[17:08] <kevin_> i mean auto mounted during the start up
[17:08] <kevin_> i do not want to mess up again with the fstab file
[17:09] <escott> kevin_, thats ok. we just want to look at your fstab. can you !paste it to us
[17:10] <kevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/659985/
[17:11] <kevin_> here is the fstab file content
[17:12] <chamunks> I am trying to RSYNC a massive directory 450 gigs of tens of thousands of files I want to make this go as smoothly as possible is there a way to log the process for resuming incase of failure and such?
[17:12] <chamunks> Or even a way to make rsync break up the job for me into smaller parts.
[17:12] <escott> chamunks, thats the point of rsync is that it is easy to resume, just keep running it until it says its done
[17:12] <dr_willis> 450gb is massive? :) thats my wallpaper collection...
[17:12] <Dulak> chamunks: rsync will automatically resume
[17:13] <dr_willis> rsync is sort of amazin in how usefull  and thought out it is.
[17:13] <Dulak> chamunks: it uses a pretty nifty comparison algo to only transfer the differences, so it doesn't have to restart from scratch
[17:13] <OmegaForte> chamunks, I think rsync has super powers.
[17:13] <chamunks> escott, Dulak, even after a system reboot or something?  where is it logging this information to? can i force it to log everything to a file somewhere other than the source / dest?
[17:13] <dr_willis> You could look into fsarchiver if  you are  more into  making an 'archival' backup. vs a 'clone'
[17:13] <rumpe1> kevin_, the default for mount is to not convert the filename-encodings. That's the problem i guess.
[17:14] <escott> chamunks, you could send its output to a file, but there is no point. rsync is designed to handle resumes. it will compare the contents of the remote and local copies and send the differences
[17:14] <Dulak> chamunks: it doesn't log anything, it compares things on both sides of the connection and only transfers what is different, so it can resume anytime, anywhere.
[17:15] <stowoda> hi
[17:15] <stowoda> how to find out wether my linux is 64 or 32 bit?
[17:15] <stowoda> if
[17:15] <stowoda> ?
[17:15] <tensorpudding> stowoda: open System Monitor, look at the information tab
[17:15] <stowoda> ok thx
[17:16] <chamunks> escott, I cant recall how to pipe the output for some reason.  I figure run it all inside of a screen session with fancy output something like this "ionice -c3 rsync -v --progress --human-readable --compress-level=2 -r -c -t -m"
[17:16] <tensorpudding> stowoda: wait, that doesn't show it anymore, hmm
[17:16] <rumpe1> kevin_, try "sudo umount <partition> && sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=007 /dev/sdX /mnt/... " and try again
[17:16] <stowoda> yeah, I see
[17:16] <escott> stowoda, uname -i. to see if your processor is capable cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags and look for "lm"
[17:16] <stowoda> it is capable escott
[17:17] <chamunks> escott, being my command so far. I would like a record of the xfers details just because I'm the kind of guy who downloads full 100% flac files with rip logs hehe.
[17:17] <stowoda> lm is set
[17:17] <stowoda> escott
[17:18] <escott> chamunks, command 1&>logfile.txt
[17:18] <chamunks> escott, will that just dump  everything to the log without also outputting to the command line?
[17:18] <chamunks> escott, or will the &sign do both
[17:19] <kevin_> rumpe1 again the problem comes
[17:19] <stowoda> Linux luk 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:19] <escott> chamunks, sorry should be &> logfile.txt. that will send both stdout and stderr to the log file
[17:20] <kevin_> even if it is get copied to the source dirctory will the music players play them
[17:20] <escott> kevin_, bad unicode encoding on the filenames will cause all sorts of problems for you
[17:20] <stowoda> i686 seems to bee 32bit
[17:20] <stowoda> or?
[17:21] <escott> stowoda, i686 is 32bit
[17:21] <stowoda> :(
[17:21] <stowoda> ok thx
[17:21] <kevin_> escott. then how to rectify the bad ubicode
[17:21] <chamunks> escott, good to know.  but will it still output to the command line as well?  this xfer is going to take days so i wont be watching it.
[17:22] <escott> kevin_, if you can figure out what encoding the ntfs system has you can try different versions of the mount command until it works
[17:22] <chamunks> escott, but i will be checking up on it occasionally to make sure it hasn't broken.
[17:22] <escott> chamunks, if you want to see it at the same time you probably need to use tee
[17:24] <escott> kevin_, i don't know much about ntfs but it might require the specification of a codepage
[17:25] <kevin_> what is the codepackage name ?
[17:25] <escott> kevin_, that may depend on where you live
[17:26] <chamunks> escott, hmm well that changes the game again lol.
[17:26] <kevin_> don't joke please
[17:26] <wols_> stowoda: why do you want a 64bit install?
[17:26] <chamunks> escott, sorry for requesting the spoonfeeding I can see you're already engaged in other conv's
[17:27] <escott> kevin_, im serious. if you are in the US its likely your windows system would use a latin codepage. but if you were in europe you could be using a codepage specific to your native language
[17:27] <kevin_> i am in india and my system langauge in US english
[17:28] <escott> chamunks, see man tee. should be something like rsync &| tee logfile.txt
[17:29] <escott> chamunks, rather 2&>1 | tee logfile.txt
[17:31] <stowoda> aehm. do a cpu have a fpu? I mean in a personal computer..
[17:31] <stowoda> or are floating point operations emulated in software
[17:31] <escott> stowoda, yes ever since the 486dx
[17:31] <stowoda> :) ok
[17:31] <stowoda> thx
[17:31] <clueful> is it hard to get a vpn set up in ubuntu?
[17:31] <eloystebam> spanish??
[17:31] <chamunks> escott, its a shame that there isnt exactly a test command... pipe that with tee...
[17:32] <eloystebam> speak spanish?
[17:32] <tensorpudding> !es | eloystebam
[17:32] <KM0201> !es
[17:32] <KM0201> ..
[17:33] <KM0201> :_)
[17:33] <escott> chamunks, just run any other command, but honestly there is very little point to making these logs. you will never need to look at them. just trust rsync to do its job
[17:33] <eloystebam> KM0201, thank
[17:33] <KM0201> eloystebam: wasn't me.. :)
[17:33] <escott> !vpn | clueful
[17:33] <KM0201> tensorpudding: beat me to it.
[17:33] <chamunks> escott, i'm just making a terrible joke  see command : test | tee
[17:34] <infid> are there any good tools for generating/encrypting/auto-filling passwords for ubuntu (like keepassx) but that make it easy to regenerate new passwords for all the passwords at once?
[17:35] <clueful> escott: thanks but I am actually referring to setting up a server rather than connecting to one
[17:35] <chamunks> escott, I'm just anticipating that there will be read errors in this transfer and I basically want to know where my drive has cannibalized my data.
[17:36] <debianasus> !sources.list
[17:38] <linusA> Is anyone using a PS3 sixaxis over bluetooth with natty?
[17:38] <OmegaForte> linusA, I would, but my bluetooth adapter isn't compatible with anything.
[17:38] <wols_> !anyone | linusA
[17:38] <chamunks> escott, thanks for your time and attention i'm sure this will do the trick.
[17:39] <linusA> I have gotten a connection with sixad but when I check the joystick with jstest-gtk all the levels are stuck and the button presses done show
[17:40] <linusA> @ubottu I know a lead in question is not standard protocol, but the the whole question  seemed to long and convoluted
[17:40] <wols_> linusA: ubottu is a bot and a lead in always wastest the time of the people in channel and yourself
[17:41] <romeyro> hello
[17:41] <romeyro> anyone know if bluray on ubuntu is compatible ?
[17:42] <wols_> romeyro: it's not. at least if you mean "can I watch movies on bluray under linux?"
[17:42] <romeyro> oh :S
[17:43] <salvatore> hi all
[17:43] <romeyro> hi
[17:43] <romeyro> wols_,  i hope we ll get a solution soon
[17:44] <wols_> romeyro: there won't be any
[17:45] <romeyro> wols_, even the next year ?
[17:45] <romeyro> wols_, i m pretty sure that someone will found something
[17:46] <debianasus> !msgthebot
[17:46] <salvatore> I've a problem with fglrx (ati driver), maybe a simple problem.. I have ubuntu 11.04 with fglrx 11.5 installed and all works well. Today I tried to install the last version of ati driver (11.07), then I removed 11.05 (with apt-get --purge *fglrx*) and installed the last one.. after the install don't appear the command "aticonfig" hence I can't configure my xorg.. Where I'm wrong?
[17:46] <ZAHH> hello
[17:46] <ZAHH> anyone know how to securely wipe an external HD
[17:46] <OmegaForte> ZAHH, bleachbit
[17:46] <ZAHH> Im using shred /dev/sd[device] but its gonna take ages
[17:47] <Myrtti> ZAHH: shred
[17:47] <ZAHH> I figured
[17:47] <wols_> ZAHH: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[17:47] <OmegaForte> wols_, Why not dev/urandom then!?
[17:47] <wols_> ZAHH: after a single write over, no one can ever retrieve your date. truly no one
[17:47] <ZAHH> I heard that single pass overwrite isnt enough
[17:47] <wols_> ZAHH: you are wrong
[17:48] <wols_> OmegaForte: it doesn't matter with what you overwrite
[17:48] <OmegaForte> wols_, I'm just making a joke.
[17:48] <ZAHH> what if the CIA busted down my door and handed my HD to super scientists?
[17:48] <wols_> ZAHH: not even then
[17:48] <ZAHH> hmm, 35 writes seemed like alot anyways
[17:48] <wols_> ZAHH: the only time they could do this is if your hdd were around 20-25 years old
[17:48] <ZAHH> ya i heard this but i didnt understand why
[17:49] <wols_> cause the modern drive heads work differently. GMR and PMR heads write the data differently. they don't really read and write it anymore but mainly guess
[17:51] <salvatore> I've a problem with fglrx (ati driver), maybe a simple problem.. I have ubuntu 11.04 with fglrx 11.5 installed and all works well. Today I tried to install the last version of ati driver (11.07), then I removed 11.05 (with apt-get --purge *fglrx*) and installed the last one.. after the install don't appear the command "aticonfig" hence I can't configure my xorg.. Where I'm wrong?
[17:54] <Pisagor> Hello
[17:55] <Pisagor> when i try to open some link in folder (for instance, when i click on browse c: drive on wine menu) it doesn't really open it in a file browser like pcman or nautilus. It does open it in web browser.
[17:56] <dr_willis> Pisagor:  i noticed that also on one of my machines.. never did find a fix.. never really tried to fix it..
[17:56] <dr_willis> Pisagor:  is it opening in google-chrome or chromium?
[17:56] <Pisagor> it does open it in its own web browser
[17:56] <Pisagor> the default one coming with lubuntu
[17:57] <Pisagor> to uninstall it would offer a relief ?
[17:57] <mongy> salvatore, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide#Aticonfig_not_found_after_installation_.26_.22module_does_not_exist.22_after_boot
[17:57] <dr_willis> installing/uyninstalling to fix things is windows mindset
[17:57] <Pisagor> and this mindset sometimes might be useful
[17:58] <Pisagor> cause i am really helpless
[17:58] <dr_willis> Pisagor:  so what are you going to uninstall? :)  make a new user see if affects them the same way. if NOT then its a user setting issue.
[17:58] <salvatore> mongy: thank you, I not found it, now I read and try again :)
[17:58] <dr_willis> if it affects ALL users the same way. then its a system type setting issue.
[17:59] <Pisagor> well i am gonna uninstall the default browser, then what may come next
[17:59] <Pisagor> will it open the link "in terminal"
[17:59] <dr_willis> Pisagor:  you would proberly have better luck  just deleting all your users settings.
[17:59] <dr_willis> if its a user setting issued.
[17:59] <Pisagor> and i will keep on uninstaling until it opens in a proper file browser - yes i am a narrow minded one -
[17:59] <dr_willis> go ahead then.. have fun. i gave a  test to see if its a user or system issue...
[18:00] <wols_> Pisagor: I suspect you will uninstall a lot of dependencies, and you will break your installation even worse
[18:00] <Pisagor> wols_, do not scare me
[18:00] <wols_> Pisagor: the problem is not your browser...
[18:00] <Pisagor> what is it then
[18:00] <dr_willis> a 'user setting' issue........
[18:00] <wols_> it's the program that calls the browser
[18:00] <Pisagor> okay, knowing this makes me feel better...
[18:01] <wols_> Pisagor: a belief is not knowledge
[18:01] <dr_willis> the default filetype for open folder may be set to  the browser. instead of  the 'open folder..' file manager app.,
[18:01] <Pisagor> okay and do you know where i can set these
[18:01] <dr_willis> Not sure about Lubuntum, but in Ubuntu, the 'ubuntu-tweak' app can reset the users settings back to defaults.
[18:02] <dr_willis> but its a use at your own risk sort of thing.
[18:02] <burgua> hey all! How to hide bluetooth icon in tray? uncheking in preferences doesn't work
[18:02] <Pisagor> and reseting all settings back is not a windows mindset solution ?
[18:02] <auronandace> Pisagor: sounds like a wine issue
[18:02] <dr_willis> Pisagor:  if you want to argue all day.. go ahead.. have a nice day.
[18:02] <Pisagor> where is the settings that i can edit which program opens which sort of files or links
[18:02] <Pisagor> auronandace, is it ?
[18:03] <auronandace> Pisagor: you said "open some link in a folder", what link?
[18:03] <Pisagor> when i make a shortcut on desktop
[18:04] <Pisagor> i usually make shortcuts on desktop to be able to open them in the file manager
[18:04] <auronandace> Pisagor: what was it a shortcut to?
[18:04] <Pisagor> a folder shortcut
[18:05] <zroysch> I need to shrink a 2TB mdadm raid-1 partition slightly to replace a failed hard drive with another model. There's nothing wrong with shrinking a partition with data on it right?
[18:05] <Pisagor> an internal folder in my very internal hdd
[18:05] <auronandace> Pisagor: which folder?
[18:05] <Pisagor> ok auronandace you got me - it was the shortcut of the folder of my porn archive in hdd
[18:05] <Pisagor> so is this why ?
[18:06] <auronandace> Pisagor: how did you make the shortcut?
[18:06] <Pisagor> with the help of nautilus
[18:06] <Pisagor> i created the "short link" in the folder itself then i copied it to desktop
[18:06] <Pisagor> and it was working well for a while
[18:07] <auronandace> Pisagor: until when?
[18:07] <escott> zroysch, it must be unmounted, but most fs can be resized easily. i would be more worried about resizing the partition itself
[18:07] <Pisagor> until the 13th of june, 13:13
[18:07] <Pisagor> if i could exactly remember "until when" - i would not need any help to fix it, i think auronandace
[18:07] <Pisagor> i know the simple rules of logic.
[18:08] <auronandace> Pisagor: if you want help you can leave your sarcasm behind
[18:08] <Pisagor> ok
[18:08] <Pisagor> i dont remember until when - until what i did to my pc
[18:08] <Pisagor> i don't have a clue.
[18:09] <Pisagor> as a person who doesn't remember what caused it , do i still have a chance to fix ?
[18:09] <linusA> Ok I found my solution, If anyone is having trouble getting ps3 sixaxis button presses to register with sixad. edit /etc/default/sixad and change legacy=0 to legacy=1
[18:09] <auronandace> Pisagor: hmm, i'm a little confused at why you provided the "browse c: drive in wine" as an example
[18:09] <salvatore> mongy: now it works, thanks :) :)
[18:10] <Pisagor> because "browse c: drive in wine" is a good example
[18:10] <Pisagor> it's a feature i often use
[18:10] <auronandace> Pisagor: as a shortcut on your desktop?
[18:11] <Pisagor> yes, shortcuts have the same problem too
[18:11] <Pisagor> "browse c: in wine" has too
[18:11] <sainath> sainath
[18:11] <Pisagor> all links
[18:11] <Pisagor> all, i mean all...
[18:11] <auronandace> it does sound like a default setting issue
[18:12] <Pisagor> okay
[18:12] <Pisagor> thanks.
[18:12] <auronandace> Pisagor: can you right click and open as..
[18:12] <HSL> Hi
[18:12] <HSL> Finally upgrading my 8.04 LTS server,..
[18:12] <HSL> but I have a question :)
[18:13] <HSL> during the upgrade I get the question what I want to do with /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:13] <auronandace> Pisagor: or rather, open with..
[18:13] <Pisagor> no you can't do that for menu items or links
[18:14] <HSL> If I install the package maintainers version i miss my console stuff, if I keep the local version I dont have the new kernel,..
[18:14] <HSL> what to do?
[18:14] <a111> copy the stuff you changed HSL ?
[18:14] <a111> or change yours to match the new kernel
[18:14] <auronandace> Pisagor: try opening the shortcuts (the actual .desktop files) with a text editor and see what it says
[18:15] <HSL> a111: but can I change it before it reboots?
[18:15] <a111> Yeah i dont see why not
[18:15] <philipballew> is the ubuntu font going to be installed on ubuntu and therefor put into every applaction?
[18:15] <a111> copy your current one to a new directory first HSL
[18:15] <a111> then you have it safe
[18:18] <orated> There is an update which I don't want to install. How I can disabl notification for such updates?
[18:18] <orated> disable*
[18:19] <auronandace> orated: what update don't you want to install?
[18:19] <HSL> a111: thx!
[18:21] <orated> gnome-user-guide
[18:22] <auronandace> orated: ah, i can understand that; sorry, not sure how to set it to ignore that update
[18:22] <drake01> orated, You may try this: open synaptic manager->search for the software you want stop getting updates for->select it and from Package menu select LockVersion-> check for updates using update manager or command line!!
[18:23] <conor_ireland> hello
[18:23] <conor_ireland> does anyone know how to invoke the launchbar on a mac keyboard
[18:23] <orated> auronandace: np. drake01 : I'll try that. Thanks
[18:24] <tensorpudding> conor_ireland: it'll be whichever key is given Super
[18:24] <tensorpudding> conor_ireland: i think that would be option, but i don't know
[18:24] <conor_ireland> tensorpudding: how do i set that?
[18:24] <orated> drake01: I guess there is a CLI method for the same...
[18:24] <conor_ireland> tensorpudding: thanks
[18:25] <kermit> how do i connect to a wireless WPA network, already configured in network manager, from the command line?
[18:25] <tensorpudding> conor_ireland: check out your keyboard layout, and make sure it's mac
[18:25] <Bennit> Ohai
[18:26] <Bennit> Any `phatch` users here?
[18:26] <escott> kermit, nmcli
[18:26] <conor_ireland> tensorpudding: cool ty
[18:26] <drake01> orated,  Obviously there is always a cli method, the gui only run this cli command. Search for the actual  command using google for locking the version. I don't remember the command!!
[18:26] <zroysch> escott: what do you mean
[18:27] <dr_willis> !pin
[18:27] <escott> zroysch, nmcli is network managers cli tool
[18:28] <kermit> or conversly, how can i just get network manager to keep trying to connect whenever it gets disconnected?
[18:28] <a111> What reigon does iw reg set BO set wifi regulations to?
[18:28] <orated> Thanks dr_willis  :-)
[18:29] <maulana> http://adf.ly/2IZRd << for track handphone number can i get some software like that on ubuntu ?
[18:29] <conor_ireland> macbook/macbook pro or macbook/macbook pro intl?
[18:31] <bastidrazor> conor_ireland: nota
[18:31] <conor_ireland> bastidrazor: nota?
[18:32] <bastidrazor> conor_ireland: none of the above
[18:32] <conor_ireland> what do i pick for a macbook pro on ubuntu then?
[18:34] <elifou> i need to setup an ftp server on my ubuntu server. does any one have any good ftp server suggestions?
[18:34] <bastidrazor> conor_ireland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[18:34] <conor_ireland> bastidrazor: thanks
[18:34] <Tetsuo55> how can i make a unified diff patch for a source-tree compared to the svn server?
[18:35] <Tetsuo55> in windows its just rightclick -> create patch
[18:43] <conor_ireland> looks like it might be a virtualbox issue - as the cmd/apple key is the super key but wont work
[18:44] <HSL> Is it normal that when upgrading from 8.04LTS to 10.04LTS it takes a long time when it's busy with: Setting up javascript-common (7) ...
[18:46] <lassizci> just tried to install ubuntu netbook (10.04) to one of those first asus eee pcs but the installer seems to get stuck when I select the keyboard layout and click next
[18:46] <lassizci> liveUSB runs just fine on this one though
[18:46] <lassizci> what could be wrong?
[18:47] <theadmin> lassizci: Is there enough diskspace?
[18:47] <conor_ireland> does anyone know how to change the superkey in 11.04?
[18:47] <theadmin> conor_ireland: What do you mean, change it?
[18:48] <lassizci> theadmin: at least I don't get sny warning
[18:48] <conor_ireland> theadmin: in virtualbox for the mac the superkey wont work - i need to change it to a diff key
[18:48] <Andy80> if I remember well, the 10.04 installer was a bit slow on some eeepc... it took 15 minutes to load the installer.....
[18:48] <Andy80> lassizci: why don't you try with a more recent version? 11.04 I mean
[18:49] <lassizci> Andy80: there wasn't netbook version of the latest one
[18:49] <conor_ireland> theadmin: assign a different key to be the superkey
[18:49] <mina2> hello
[18:50] <Andy80> lassizci: because the Desktop version is perfect for netbook... try the new Unity interface :)
[18:50] <theadmin> brb
[18:50] <bullgard4_> The only 64-bit CD that I have, is a "ubuntu Server 11.04" CD. Can I use it to divide a partition into two? Or do I need another CD for this purpose?
[18:51] <dr_willis> a server cd wont have the gui gparted tool. but you could use fdisk. or parted bullgard4_  if you know how to use them.
[18:51] <mina2> i tried setting the required params for my 3g modem in usb_modeswitch. it is detected as USB MODEM MODEM in Mobile Broadband but after i select Connect Automatically it says gsm network disconnected what should i do
[18:51] <escott> bullgard4, 64 vs 32 bit doesnt matter for things like fsck and partitions
[18:51] <dr_willis> bullgard4_:  just to repartition disks. you dont need a 64bit cd either. a 32bit gparted live cd. would also work
[18:52] <cadooo> I like unity but is there another application launcher? I don't like how the default launcher hides applications
[18:52] <poisonarms> can someone tell me which download to select from the software center for SFML for c++?
[18:52] <spankbot> *.flac: ERROR initializing decoder
[18:52] <spankbot>         init status = FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_INIT_STATUS_ERROR_OPENING_FILE
[18:52] <poisonarms> i see python binding, c binding, but i dont see c++
[18:52] <mina2> i gave the correct APN and number *99***1#
[18:53] <dr_willis> cadooo:  you can set the left side panel to not hide
[18:54] <mina2> i tried setting the required params for my 3g modem in usb_modeswitch. it is detected as USB MODEM MODEM in Mobile Broadband but after i select Connect Automatically it says gsm network disconnected what should i do?    i gave the correct APN and number *99***1#
[18:54] <bullgard4_> dr_willis, escott Thank you very much for your help. I will give it a try using a 32-bit live CD.
[18:55] <theadmin> There.
[18:57] <theadmin> Huh, is this channel REALLY idle? Does that even happen?
[18:57] <goddard_> ubuntu people help with my video card issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816495
[18:57] <dr_willis> theadmin:  at times.. :)
[18:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Funny.
[18:59] <apapa> can't get my headphone jack to work on ubuntu 11.04
[18:59] <apapa> any ideas?
[18:59] <escott> apapa, what kind of soundcard is it
[19:00] <apapa> Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
[19:00] <apapa> does that help?
[19:01] <Gasseus> How do I make a wallpaper that changes itself once in a while?
[19:02] <escott> apapa, so that is intel hda sound. its possible that the sound is being sent to the wrong physical port. you can use the hda_analyzer tool from alsa to debug the hda module
[19:02] <escott> apapa, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsa-project.org%2Fmain%2Findex.php%2FHelp_To_Debug_Intel_HDA&rct=j&q=alsa%20hda&ei=r489TqylEMrq0QGc8KXNAw&usg=AFQjCNHC7mW5BTaI-cR17G6NRXgoc64ahA&sig2=vB3TARr2nK-MvEpE84ML6g&cad=rja
[19:03] <apapa> ok...let me check escott
[19:03] <theadmin> Gasseus: There's a tool called crebs in ppa:crebs/ppa
[19:03] <escott> Gasseus, write a script that calls out to gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename --type string "filename_goes_here"
[19:03] <theadmin> escott: or that... :D
[19:04] <Spaceghost> Hi all, I would like to know how can I watch videos while they are being downloaded?
[19:04] <theadmin> Gasseus: Some instructions here: http://www.obfuscatepenguin.net/crebs/
[19:04] <Spaceghost> using VLC, mplayer or any of the conventionals programs for do it.
[19:04] <Gasseus> theadmin mmk thanks
[19:05] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  downloaded from where?
[19:05] <Gasseus> escott does unity still use gconftool-2? I thought it moved to something completely different...
[19:06] <Spaceghost> dr_willis: megaupload, hotfile and similars, supossing that I made all the necessary for start the download (captha and that thing)
[19:06] <escott> Gasseus, unity in 11.04 is still based on gnome2 so yes. not sure what will happen with 11.10 it may have to be something gsettings related
[19:06] <Spaceghost> there is another detail and it's that I would like use while I am watching it a subtitles downloaded separetely
[19:06] <jrib> Spaceghost: just point your player to the file (for firefox this file ends in .part while it downloads)
[19:06] <Spaceghost> I don't know if it will become it more hard
[19:06] <Gasseus> escott Well, the current 11.10 repos have gnome3 rather then gnome 2.30
[19:06] <Spaceghost> to sincronize
[19:07] <dr_willis> Spaceghost:  not really noticed a way to do it.  there could be a lot of potential issues.   but i rarely get videos from such sources. I did see where Utorrent3 had a 'stream' option to watch as you download.
[19:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: utorrent on Linux won't have that.
[19:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: I mean, the only way to control it is via a web interface
[19:07] <dr_willis> any subtitle files would be very tiny size compared to a videos size
[19:07] <Spaceghost> jrib: really so easy?
[19:07] <dr_willis> theadmin:  yep.
[19:07] <jrib> Spaceghost: yes.
[19:07] <Gasseus> theadmin: Wine maybe?
[19:07] <theadmin> meh
[19:07] <dr_willis> but thats not utorrent 3 either theadmin ... I think. :)
 I got a "Codec 0/0 unavailable - permissions... Codec 1/0 unavailable - permissions..."  error
[19:08]  * theadmin likes qbittorrent
[19:08] <escott> apapa, must run as root
[19:08] <apapa> when running the python
[19:08] <ben22> Why can I only play audio on TTY1 ?
[19:08]  * Gasseus wonders why you care about products that are mostly used for unlawful stuff...
[19:08] <theadmin> ben22: Maybe a problem with pulseaudio
[19:08] <Dulak> all that stream thing does is download the first block, the last block, then sequential blocks starting at #2 for streamable files.  Not sure why that would be an issue in linux, it's quite simple.
[19:08] <apapa> ok escott
[19:08] <theadmin> Gasseus: I am somewhat of a pirate, but that's none of your buisness :D
[19:08] <ben22> theadmin, tried start-pulseaudio-x11, no luck. any clues?
[19:09] <theadmin> ben22: No, I mean. Try using ALSA instead of Pulse.
[19:09] <jrib> ben22: how are you entering your xsession?
[19:09] <Spaceghost> jrib: and what about a way to aumatize Firefox to start the watching when I started the downloaded? or a bit later but while it's being downloaded and not when the download finished
[19:09] <Gasseus> theadmin: Aren't we all...
[19:09] <ben22> theadmin, jrib I did try uninstalling pulse, no luck. also, entering xsession through xinit
[19:09] <theadmin> Gasseus: Nah, I know a guy who would go crazy if I even mentioned piracy :D
[19:09] <jrib> Spaceghost: I run: « mplayercorner -fs "$(ls -t ~/Desktop/*(.) | head -n 1)" » which will play the newest file in my desktop
[19:10] <whitesquall> wine is not the way. Linux must have native solution :)
[19:10] <Spaceghost> dr_willis: the videos that I will download are in .mp4 and x264 directily, I mean without any RAR or any another container or cut
[19:10] <jrib> ben22: why aren't you using startx?
[19:10] <Gasseus> theadmin: was he a musician?
[19:10] <Spaceghost> jrib: incluiding .part?
[19:10] <jrib> Spaceghost: it's any file
[19:10] <ben22> jrib, I thought it made no difference.
[19:10] <jrib> ben22: check
[19:11] <jrib> ben22: if it still doesn't work, pastebin your .xinitrc
[19:11] <ben22> jrib, .xinitrc consists of one line: /usr/bin/ion3
[19:11] <jrib> ben22: ok see if startx makes things work, if not change that line to start with "ck-launch-session"
[19:12] <Spaceghost> oh, to many join and quits in this channel, but if I deshabilite it in my IRC client it will be apply in each chat
[19:12] <theadmin> Gasseus: pm maybe?
[19:13] <theadmin> Spaceghost: /ignore #ubuntu JOIN PART QUIT NICK -- works in irssi
[19:13] <Guest83653> i have forgot my password in ubuntu ... how do i recover it ?
[19:13] <jrib> !password | Guest83653
 what am i looking for?
[19:14] <ben22> jrib, thank you. what does ck-launch-session do though?
[19:14] <apapa> I ran the HDA analyzer <escott>
[19:14] <jrib> ben22: creates a console kit session.  Console kit is the new-fangled thing that manages user logins and rights
[19:15] <ben22> jrib, well whatever it is it works now, thanks again
[19:15] <jrib> ben22: no problem
[19:15] <escott> apapa, you have various nodes labeled AUD_OUT identified by hex addresses (0x10) and various pins which can have sources as those AUD_OUT nodes. look for one that advertises PIN Caps (capabilities) suggesting it is a headphone
[19:15] <bullgard4_> I am going to create 3 partitions on a hard disk in order to install a new Ubuntu system. 1 partition will be a swap partition. How should I split Ubuntu  between the other 2 partitions? Is it all right to put solely /home on the second partition?
[19:16] <theadmin> bullgard4_: It's fine, yes
[19:16] <cadooo> crashed! can the application launcher in unity be changed out for a different one?
[19:16] <zeec8>  /msg nickserv register X11 zeec8@nycap.rr.com
[19:16] <theadmin> bullgard4_: I also can suggest separate /usr or /boot, but that's up to you
[19:16] <theadmin> zeec8: Woah now :P
[19:16] <escott> apapa, so you are looking for things like press detect, output (maybe headphone drive), something non-digital (unless you have spdif headphones) and toggle on the OUTPUT checkbox
[19:17] <zeec8> Damn space
[19:17] <apapa> ok when i unplug the analog headphones..something logs
[19:18] <apapa> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/alsa-info.txt'
[19:18] <theadmin> zeec8: Also X11 is a pretty insecure password.
[19:18] <Spaceghost> I don't have irssi, uhm
[19:18] <bullgard4_> theadmin: How much hard disk space should I allocate to /hme, and how much to the rest partition?
[19:18] <apapa> Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400183: Stereo Amp-In
[19:18] <Dulak> bullgard4_: my normal setup is swap 2x ram, / 25 gigs, rest to /home, for a workstation
[19:18] <theadmin> bullgard4_: 20GB for / is enough.
[19:18] <escott> apapa, you can run hda tool in an analyze mode. usually when you plug/unplug the headphone there is supposed to be some process which sees that happen and toggles off the output flag on the speakers and on the flag on the headphone, but it may not be looking at the correct pin
 I see...Node 0x10 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400183: Stereo Amp-In
[19:18] <Spaceghost> jrib: the .part thing is working great, thanks, now I will see a way to automatize the start, thank you.
[19:18] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Rest for /home I guess
[19:19] <bullgard4_> Dulak, theadmin Thank you for advising.
[19:20] <apapa> ok so how do i fix the pin issue?
[19:20] <conor_ireland> why isnt there an easy way to re-assign the superkey - you have to download ccsm and edit the keys for the launcher
[19:21] <Spaceghost> jrib: what is mplayercorner?
[19:21] <jrib> Spaceghost: ah my bad, that's my own script that starts mplayer in the corner of my screen
[19:22] <jrib> Spaceghost: the contents are simply a shebang line followed by: mplayer -geometry 100%:100% "$@"
 what do i need to do to solve this?
[19:22] <escott> apapa, its just try and see until you find the correct pin. if this is a laptop you might try to fix the issue by adjusting the model parameter in your alsa modprobe http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA#.27model.27_parameter
[19:22] <apapa> thanks escott...i'll try that...
[19:22] <Spaceghost> jrib: how can I do the same but with charging with the video the last *.srt downloaded?
 this is a laptop
[19:24] <apapa> what do i need to change my modprobe to?
[19:24] <jrib> Spaceghost: untested, but something like: « mplayercorner -sub "$(ls -t ~/Desktop/*.srt(.) | head -n 1)" -fs "$(ls -t ~/Desktop/*(.) | head -n 1)" »  By the way, I'm using some zshisms here so it may not work in bash
[19:25] <corinth> The touchpad sensitivity settings don't seem to be doing anything for me....does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:25] <jrib> Spaceghost: more specifically, when I do *(.) that means give me all files (not directories or other things)
[19:25] <Spaceghost> ah, ok
[19:26] <Spaceghost> I will see it, thanks a lot for everything, jrib.
[19:26] <tamaroth> hi
[19:27] <s10lolo> i am looking for a way to see the cpu temp of my 2600k sandybridge cpu. is it possible?
[19:28] <escott> apapa, i can't tell you exactly what to do its specific to your hardware. but if your model is listed in alsa's list of known configurations take that model identifier string and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as options snd-hda-intel model=whatever and then sude alsa force-reload
[19:30] <escott> s10lolo, sensors
[19:30] <billymaze> Hello!
[19:30] <billymaze> I just got a new external hard drive and I want to use truecrypt to encrypt some data.  However, I'm not sure if I should use an encrypted container or make an encrypted partition.  Is one better than the other?
[19:30] <billymaze> If so, why?
[19:32] <apapa> escott, it's not exactly the same model number as listed...
[19:32] <lion42> It'd probably be easier to just encrypt the whole drive, especially if you're going to use a significant portion of it for sensitive data
[19:32] <lion42> but I don't know the safety of encrypted containers.
[19:32] <lion42> (I use whole-device)
[19:33] <corinth> The touchpad sensitivity in the mouse settings don't seem to be doing anything for me....does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:33] <escott> apapa, its worth a try if its similar. if it doesn't work you can just undo the change
[19:33] <lion42> corinth, have you tried searching "ubuntu yourmodelcomputer touchpad" on google or similar?
[19:33] <Dulak> billymaze: It depends on usage, if you are going to have it mounted most of the time, the partition is probably best.  If it will only rarely be mounted, the container probably makes more sense
[19:33] <jrib> corinth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[19:33] <corinth> lion42, Yep.
[19:34] <apapa> ok. how do i do the change escott?
[19:34] <billymaze> Dulak:  I see.  Thanks for the tip!
[19:34] <escott> apapa, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBgQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FHdaIntelSoundHowto&rct=j&q=hda%20model%20ubuntu&ei=PZc9Toq-KYT30gGWnonmCQ&usg=AFQjCNHzrBecRSolnwCdA6EUFV1dBnKpvg&sig2=rs9E5m1SnzunQJw3a6fjQA&cad=rja
[19:35] <escott> apapa, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:35] <tamaroth> So, I've got a question about raid arrays, I have at the moment two stripe arrays in my PC, on one of them ubuntu is installed, and that raid array is healthy and functioning properlly, however my second array seems to not work. after I installed two drives i created the hw raid and then created partition in ubuntu (ext4) using disk utility, it worked fine until i had to restart my machine. after the restart the raid array wasn't mounted automatically and d
[19:35] <DanaG> Say, how do I make an upstart job pass a hostname to an exec command?
[19:35] <DanaG> er, "the" hostname.
[19:35] <tamaroth> TL;DR: raid0 fucked, help!
[19:35] <escott> tamaroth, hw raid with dmraid or mdadm
[19:36] <corinth> Does anyone know where xorg.conf is stored in a Wubi install?
[19:36] <theadmin> corinth: xorg.conf normally doesn't exist.
[19:36] <theadmin> corinth: If you need, you can create it.
[19:37] <bullgard4_> [Ubuntu 11.04, Gparted] I'd like to have 2 independent operating systems on one hard disk. Should I mark 2 partitions with Flags=boot, or is one marking Flags=boot enough?
[19:37] <corinth> theadmin, Good to know...I didn't know that. If I need it, do I need to add everything that an xorg.conf normally has, or just the section that I need?
[19:37] <tamaroth> escott: hw raid with dmraid
[19:37] <theadmin> corinth: I think just the sections you need
[19:38] <theadmin> bullgard4_: The partition which contains your bootloader has to be marked as boot.
[19:38] <tamaroth> escott: in the link i provided you have output from dmraid -r
[19:38] <escott> tamaroth, don't know anything about dmraid sorry
[19:38] <tamaroth> damn!
[19:38] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Ok. Thank you.
[19:38] <tamaroth> i had like 250gb of data there, don't want to lose it all :(
[19:39] <tamaroth> every time i reset my ubuntu that is ;\
[19:39] <corinth> What do I need to do to put changes into effect that I've just added to xorg.conf?
[19:40] <wols_> corinth: restart X
[19:40] <corinth> wols_, Is that a command, or do I just need to logout/login?
[19:40] <theadmin> corinth: You can do "sudo service gdm restart"
[19:41] <Guest33081> hello
[19:43] <thom__> Hi, having problems getting my mouse pointer speed to be as fast as I'd like
[19:43] <thom__> cranked everything up in Preferences -> Mouse but still pretty slow
[19:44] <tamaroth> escott: any idea who might help me?
[19:44] <s10lolo> is there a way i can check my sandybridge 2600k cpu temp in ubuntu?
[19:44] <Guest33081> Backtrack 5 Tutorial
[19:45] <escott> tamaroth, not really i think use of mdadm is more common. most likely you are just missing some kind of dmraid config file in /etc. not sure what that file would be though
[19:45] <needhelp1> looking for some help with rsync, user@user:~$ rsync -n /home/user/Downloads/ /media/External\ Seagate/
[19:45] <needhelp1> skipping directory .
[19:46] <mASOUD_42> s10lolo: http://sensors-applet.sourceforge.net/
[19:47] <tamaroth> escott: gparted actually shows my raid there, but spits out a lot of errors too
[19:47] <yeats> needhelp1: try 'rsync -avn ...' (then remove the -n when you really do it)
[19:48] <needhelp1> yeats, by the three periods, do you mean there has to be three spaces
[19:48] <megakacktus> why isn't ubuntu using GNOME 3 ?
[19:48] <MadRush> to get NFS going on a Ubuntu client connecting to an Ubuntu server, do I need to open ports on BOTH machines UFW?
[19:48] <yeats> needhelp1: no - three periods was a "continue with the rest of the command" ;-)
[19:48] <theadmin> megakacktus: Because GNOME 3 sucks?
[19:48] <needhelp1> yeats, k thanks, trying now
[19:49] <megakacktus> beg to differ, @theadmin
[19:49] <lion42> theadmin, and unity doesn't?!
[19:49] <theadmin> lion42: Unity sucks a little less
[19:49] <needhelp1> megakacktus, ubuntu 11.10 will have gnome 3 i believe
[19:49] <mASOUD_42> unity sucks big time tho
[19:49] <Reaper> lol
[19:49] <needhelp1> mASOUD_42, if so, gnome shell sucks even worse IMO
[19:49] <wols_> the Unity developer(s) must pop SSRIs by the bucketload...
[19:50] <megakacktus> GNOME 3 isn't the greatest, but with a few tweaks, it kicks arse.
[19:50]  * theadmin runs Xfce
[19:50] <lion42> I have xfce, but I've been having issues with it so I'm using old-gnome.
[19:50] <mASOUD_42> needhelp1 what wrong with gnome shell?
[19:50] <Reaper> I have to see what is so good about Xfce
[19:50] <megakacktus> 10.04 ftw!
[19:51] <hoopjumping> Hi, can I get synaptic to install in a custom directory? I don't have much room in my 16gb partition, so I'd rather install to the other hard drive
[19:51] <lion42> Reaper, its faster if you have older hardware, or want to free up resources for other tasks.
[19:51] <italoxp> Reaper, it's just so versatile that it can emulate GNOME classic. Tha's why people are starting to use it.
[19:51] <lion42> That's really the big benefit.
[19:51] <Reaper> ahh I see
[19:51] <needhelp1> yeats, so that worked, but the log of all the files to be changed was to long, i cant scroll through them all, any ideas?
[19:51] <xangua> hoopjumping: make your partition bigger ;)
[19:51] <italoxp> Reaper, it also uses the same themes as GNOME, so you can get the same desktop with less resources.
[19:51] <Reaper> got cha
[19:51] <hoopjumping> xangua: Can't, that's the entireity of the 16gb hard drive.
[19:52] <xangua> hoopjumping: then delete files, uninstall stuf
[19:52] <escott> hoopjumping, you should mount that spare drive to some place like /usr/share/games which is non-critical but might take a lot of disk space
[19:52] <yeats> needhelp1: go to the /media/External\ Seagate/ directory and do 'ls -la' to make sure everything's there
[19:52] <hoopjumping> Escott: Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear. How do I do that?
[19:52] <yeats> needhelp1: rsync will report any errors at the end
[19:53] <BlueWolf> Hi, Could someone explain to me why a Core i3 - 2.93GHz, 2GB RAM DDR3 is running as slow as a Pentium 3? Is the any program in Ubuntu 10.10 that could slow it down? In my system monitor - it says my Ram is running at 60%, When the only programs running are Opera, System Monitor, Torrent Transmission, Two file systems and Empathy? Can Anyone help?
[19:53] <Spaceghost> see you, guys.
[19:53] <italoxp> BlueWolf, check on top (terminal, run top) if there are other apps
[19:54] <italoxp> BlueWolf, look for processes that uses lots of cpu and ram
[19:54] <escott> hoopjumping, are you at all familiar with mountpoints and fstab
[19:54] <italoxp> But Opera uses a lot of ram, depending of how many tabs you're using
[19:54] <hoopjumping> escott: Not at all.
[19:54] <yeats> !fstab | hoopjumping
[19:54] <theadmin> italoxp: I think you're confusing it with Firefox.
[19:55] <escott> hoopjumping, http://fosswire.com/post/2007/04/unix-fundamentals-mount-points/
[19:55] <hoopjumping> I'll read the first link, thanks
[19:55] <italoxp> theadmin, every single browser works that way. More tabs, more memory.
[19:55] <theadmin> italoxp: Duh, but only Firefox consumes half of the RAM with just one tab open xD
[19:56] <s10lolo> mASOUD_42 - i have already tried sensors-applet and it only shows my gpu, i cant find anything that will find the sensors on the sandybridge cpu
[19:56] <MadRush> can anybody help me with NFS?
[19:56] <apn> MadRush, what help do you need?
[19:56] <BlueWolf> italoxp, What can I type in the terminal to show what processes are taking place? I thought it was Firefox that was slowing my machine. . . . .  But it's starting to get slow again.
[19:56] <MadRush> apn: I'd like to know if its necessary to open UFW ports on both the client and server machines
[19:57] <italoxp> theadmin,
[19:57] <yeats> BlueWolf: 'top'
[19:57] <Scunizi> BlueWolf: top
[19:57] <italoxp> Sorry
[19:57] <italoxp> BlueWolf, like I said, run top on terminal
[19:57] <escott> s10lolo, it could be that sandybridge is a bit too new. should work with 11.10
[19:57] <apn> MadRush, on client machine only out, server both ways
[19:57] <Whitesquall> BlueWolf: top or you can use more useful htop
[19:57] <italoxp> I never knew the difference between them
[19:57] <italoxp> Only the colors >.<
[19:58] <BlueWolf> The thing thats bugging me is that everything looks normal! It's not as slow now, but every now and then it dose this.... :D
[19:59] <yeats> BlueWolf: you can just keep the terminal with top running open in the background and check it when the problem recurs
[20:01] <escott> BlueWolf, it may not be cpu related it could be input/output related
[20:01] <BlueWolf> yeats, But I have tryed to track the problem, But just as the Terminal has shown me, everything looks normal. But its slow...
[20:01] <BlueWolf> escott, What do you mean Input/Output related?
[20:02] <escott> BlueWolf, i notice it mostly when firefox is loading. it tries to read/write (with syncs) lots of small files in the sqlite databases and the disk io queues get jammed up.
[20:04] <foenix> Hello, the mail program nmh and install-mh do not seem to be installing on 10.04
[20:05] <endip> wols: Are you around? I re-installed ubuntu. This time I'm running it off a hdd. I was in here last night trying to figure out what's wrong with my wired network connection. So, I just booted into ubuntu, and my wired network still isn't working (I don't have wireless so I'm using my laptop for xchat right now).
[20:05] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:05] <BlueWolf> escott, I thought it was Firefox, so I uninstalled it and put Opera on instead. But it dose not look like its made a difference.
[20:05] <MadRush> apn: if my client is getting permission denied when trying to ls a mounted NFS directory, where should I look first to fix this?
[20:06] <Cheetah> test
[20:07] <hoopjumping> I'm looking at my fstab file right now, and it only has one device listed in it (/dev/sda1). 1: How do I find out what the 16gb ssd is called, and the 1tb hdd is called. 2: Where do games what I have downloaded via synaptic go. 3: how can I, using fstab, say "go to the hard drive, not my teeny-tiny ssd"
[20:07] <foenix> sudo apt-get install nmh isn't installing nmh. is this a bug?
[20:07] <maxo> I need a cap locks indicator for unity. does one exist?
[20:07] <endip> Does anyone know what command  I can run to find out if my network card is being recognized in ubuntu? (For some reason my "wired network" option in the network indicator in the panel is grayed out, like I don't have a NIC installed.)
[20:07] <escott> MadRush, NFS permissions are exactly the same as your local permissions. make sure that your uid on the server and client are in sync
[20:07] <needhelp1> yeats, i only did a test run with -n
[20:08] <yeats> needhelp1: still having trouble?
[20:08] <needhelp1> yeats, yeah, when it returns the list of files to be changed, the list is to long to view in terminal, it wont let me scroll the whole list
[20:09] <MadRush> escott: I feel like I should already know this but how do you check your UID
[20:09] <yeats> needhelp1: add '| less' to the end of the command
[20:09] <needhelp1> yeats, what does that do
[20:09] <yeats> needhelp1: it pipes the output into a paging program called "less"
[20:09] <yeats> needhelp1: then you can page through the output
[20:10] <BlueWolf> escott, It's saying in my system monitor that Opera is using 423.4 MB Ram, 0 CPU and Empathy is using 195.1MB Ram, 0 CPU. There is NO other usage, I don't get it? :D
[20:10] <escott> hoopjumping, suppose you have a large music library in /home/username/Music you can move those files to the 1TB disk and then mount /dev/sdX1 /home/username/Music and that folder will appear there
[20:10] <endip> Can someone help me get my realtek lan card working?
[20:10] <rawfodog> Hi. Im using a dell inspirion 1420. I when I insert an SDCARD it mounts it as read only. It does this for multiple SDCARD's, I've checked the lock etc
[20:11] <wrtiii> I have a fresh server install, I have configured SSH and Static IP. I want to set up a web server. I tired using  "aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" and I get the following message back -- The following packages have unmet dependencies: apache2-mpm-worker: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.  apache2-mpm-prefork: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which
[20:11] <wrtiii> is a virtual package.     --  Am I mistaken with what packages I am trying to install?
[20:11] <MadRush> escott: i checked the uid ... both are 1000 (what I expected) will it work even if the user name is different?
[20:11] <yeats> endip: you can see if the system sees the card by doing 'lspci' and looking for your card in the output
[20:11] <escott> MadRush, its uid only, username is irrelevant
[20:12] <trism> maxo: yes, see: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/indicator-keylock-displays-keyboard.html
[20:12] <endip> yeats :: Cool, I did that, and the card is recognized. But in ifconfig the card isn't getting an IP address. and in the indicator in the panel the "wired network" option is grayed out.
[20:12] <escott> rawfodog, have you tried remounting mount -o remount,rw /media/SDCARD
[20:13] <needhelp1> yeats, is it possible to only copy folders
[20:13] <rawfodog> Ill try that. I'm not familiar with that command
[20:13] <yeats> wrtiii: try doing 'tasksel' and select LAMP server
[20:13] <endip> yeats :: the card is a realtek lan RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Eathernet Controller (rev 03)
[20:14] <hoopjumping> escoot: Ok, I think I'll try that, as I have all my music in the hard drive. How do I find out what it's called (or just guess it's sda2?). Ahh, I want a GUI! It'd be so much easier. I'm getting a headache.
[20:14] <foenix> can someone please run "sudo apt-get install nmh" and tell me if the package is broken or if I'm just crazy?
[20:14] <rawfodog> yeah that doesnt work says it cant find the card or something
[20:14] <MadRush> escott: I actually get Permission Denied even when I try to access with root on my client machine
[20:14] <sosaited> I have created a Ubuntu 10.04.3 usb with unetbootin but it gets stuck at the purple screen
[20:15] <yeats> !find nmh
[20:15] <wrtiii> yeats: Everything I have read pretty much says not to use tasksel?  Is there a program similar to windows ghost that I could use to create a image of my server as it is now in the event that I end up with some ugly installs and want to start fresh again without completing a full install again?
[20:16] <endip> yeats :: I saw some forum posts, and bug reports on issues with Realtek Lan RTL8111/8168B online yesterday and I tried going through a few instructions that required blacklisting a module for the RTL8169 in a config file. But then wols told me not to do that, and to reinstall ubuntu and come back to this channel for help immediately. So I'm following what he suggested.
[20:16] <auronandace> wrtiii: dd
[20:17] <yeats> wrtiii: you might investigate clonezilla
[20:17] <yeats> wrtiii: don't know why it's not advisable to use tasksel - it's certainly easier than manual installation and is "tweakable" later
[20:18] <yeats> wrtiii: looks like one of the programs you're trying to install requires apache-mpm-worker and another needs apache-mpm-prefork and those can't *both* be installed
[20:18] <endip> yeats, I think that wols believed the problem was with network manager and not with the Realtek RTL8111/8168B drivers, or modules loaded during boot. Apparently he's not a big fan of the network manager. Anyway, I just bought a new barebones PC for a HTPC and I'm stuck without network connectivity. Would really appreciate some help.
[20:19] <yeats> needhelp1: I don't know - you might try looking at the rsync documentation for options for just folders
[20:19] <Reaper> I know this is a bit off topic. but is there a backtrack channel?
[20:20] <yeats> endip: I'm not familiar with that card, so I'm probably not much help - perhaps someone else in the channel is?
[20:20] <endip> yeats, fair enough. Thanks.
[20:21] <wrtiii> yeats: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[20:21] <el_seano> Reaper: there is a few #backtrack channels, but none of them are very populated
[20:21] <Zorgs> Hi guys, how do I find out what filesystem I have? (64-bit or 32-bit)
[20:21] <maxo> trism: awesome, thanks! :-)
[20:22] <foenix> Zorgs: "uname -a"
[20:22] <foenix> then read the last numbers on x86
[20:22] <yeats> wrtiii: may be because you have some conflicting packages installed?
[20:22] <foenix> x86_64 = 64 bit
[20:22] <astraljava> Zorgs: You're not looking for a filesystem, but architecture. `uname -a` will tell you.
[20:22] <needhelp1> Reaper, have you tried #backtrack-linux
[20:22] <wrtiii> yeats: I've only installed OpenSSH
[20:23] <yeats> wrtiii: hmm - can you pastebin the full output?
[20:23] <wrtiii> yeats: That's all it says.
[20:23] <Zorgs> Tried "uname -a" and got this response: "Linux simon-Extensa-5220 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[20:23] <Zorgs> "
[20:24] <endip> Anyone have any idea why my lan card is recognized correctly in Ubuntu, but I can't get wired networking to work?
[20:24] <astraljava> Zorgs: That's 32-bit, then.
[20:24] <Seveas> Zorgs, 32bit (i686)
[20:24] <Seveas> Zorgs, 'uname -m' gives you just the architecture
[20:24] <Zorgs> ah, would it have said "x86_64" otherwise?
[20:24] <Seveas> yes
[20:25] <Zorgs> Cool
[20:25] <herrgabriel> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and want to install 11.04. Is it better to make a fresh and clean install or would it be ok to let the upgrade be made by synaptic?
[20:25] <Zorgs> Thanks a bunch
[20:25] <yeats> wrtiii: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[20:25] <Seveas> herrgabriel, clean install would be quicker, if you haven't done a lot of customisation
[20:25] <Seveas> but upgrade via 10.10 is fully supported
[20:25] <astraljava> Zorgs: You can check what the cpu is capable of, with: `lshw -c CPU | grep width`
[20:25] <wrtiii> yeats: no output shown. immediatly next line was back to prompt
[20:26] <yeats> wrtiii: try tasksel again
[20:26] <herrgabriel> Seveas, I have customized quite a lot, but last time I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 some things got f***ed up and I ended up making a clean install
[20:26] <escott> astraljava, Zorgs cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags and look for "lm" may be faster
[20:27] <Seveas> herrgabriel, you should not skip a release when upgrading unless you know how to recover from deep trouble
[20:27] <astraljava> escott: And what does lm mean, then?
[20:27] <wrtiii> yeats: same error
[20:27] <Seveas> astraljava, "long math"
[20:27] <herrgabriel> Seveas, now I do how to handle things when the shit hit the fan. But since I have my files backed up with DeJa Dup I guess a clean install would be less troublesome
[20:28] <yeats> wrtiii: okay - try 'sudo apt-get update' and see if that works
[20:28] <escott> astraljava, long mode
[20:28] <Zorgs> I got a response that I can have 64-bit, how to reinstall with a 64-bit version? (did "autoinstall" from the CD and apparently got the 32-bit version)
[20:28] <astraljava> Seveas: Okay, thanks. escott: Might be slightly faster, but my method is more convenient. :D
[20:28] <CoJaBo> How do I get GIMP to do... anything at all but segfault? Running Kubuntu 11.04.
[20:28] <wrtiii> yeats: nice.. uhh  -- W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Cannot initiate the connection to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.31). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[20:28] <CoJaBo> installing from apt-get install gimp
[20:29] <Seveas> astraljava, I think yours is clearer. Thanks for sharing it :)
[20:29] <yeats> wrtiii: well that would certainly cause aptitude to fail ;-)
[20:29] <herrgabriel> CoJaBo, try removing KDE and installing GDE... (scnr)
[20:29] <Seveas> CoJaBo, fix your memory
[20:29] <astraljava> Seveas: Trademarked by Myrtti. :) Thank her. :)
[20:29] <herrgabriel> Ah, but thanks Seveas. Will do a quickclean now :)
[20:29] <escott> astraljava, agreed. Zorgs you have do download a different iso image from ubuntu.com for 64bit
[20:29] <CoJaBo> herrgabriel:  yeh, I don't think its kde related :P
[20:30] <Zorgs> ah
[20:30] <wrtiii> yeats: Ok So why is the default installation trying to find something that does not exist?
[20:30] <endip> Anyone have any idea why my lan card is recognized correctly in Ubuntu, but I can't get wired networking to work?
[20:30] <CoJaBo> Seveas:  crashes immediately in startup, if it was that bad a mammary error, it'd effect other apps...
[20:30] <Seveas> endip, how far does it get? No link, no ip address, no interface?
[20:30] <Seveas> CoJaBo, one would think
[20:31] <yeats> wrtiii: eh?  I'm seeing "Network is unreachable" which you'd need to fix before aptitude will work
[20:31] <Seveas> CoJaBo, mv ~/.gimp-2.6 ~/.gimp-2.6-backup && sudo apt-get install --reinstall gimp
[20:31] <Myrtti> astraljava, Seveas :-D
[20:31] <Seveas> see if that fixes it
[20:31] <StevenR> endip: does ifconfig -a show eth0 ? if so, try sudo ethtool eth0 and see if a link is detected
[20:31] <CoJaBo> Seveas:  i.e., before gui even.. total exec time is 840 ms start to crash -_-'
[20:31] <endip> Seveas, No link (in other words, the "wired network" option in the indicator in the panel is grayed out?), no IP address, and I don't know about interface. Is there a command I can run for that?
[20:31] <wrtiii> yeats: I'm seeing the file it's requesting on the far end not existing?
[20:31] <endip> StevenR, ifconfig - a shows eth0, yes.
[20:32] <Seveas> endip, the commands StevenR just gave
[20:32] <StevenR> endip: so what does sudo ethtool eth0 say?
[20:32] <endip> Seveas, thanks
[20:32] <yeats> wrtiii: ah - okay - that probably means the mirror is out of sync - try changing mirrors
[20:32] <wrtiii> yeats: What is network unreachable supposed to mean then?
[20:32] <endip> StevenR, k, give me a second I'm chatting on a different computer.
[20:32] <yeats> can you ping anything?
[20:32] <yeats> wrtiii: ^^
[20:32] <Seveas> wrtiii, that either the computer is not connected to the internet or the server on the other end is down
[20:33] <wrtiii> years: How do I change to a different mirror?
[20:33] <Seveas> wrtiii, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <Seveas> change ca.archive to uk.archive
[20:34] <Seveas> that one generally works
[20:34] <CoJaBo> Seveas: It doesn't get far enough to create the .gimp dir. Waiting on the reinstall now
[20:34] <yeats> wrtiii: or choose a mirror close to you from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:35] <endip> StevenR, Here's the output from ifconfig lspci http://pastebin.com/r1FrAzND
[20:35] <Seveas> yeats, though that's generally a good idea, I always like to use the canonical archive when debugging. It's up most of the time.
[20:35] <CoJaBo> Seveas: Yeh, still segfaults after the reinstall :/
[20:35] <endip> StevenR, give me a sec to run sudo ethtool eth0, k
[20:36] <yeats> Seveas: good thought
[20:36] <Seveas> CoJaBo, install the gimp-dbg package and run it with gdb. See where it crashes
[20:36] <Seveas> CoJaBo, also, pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy gimp'
[20:37] <endip> StevenR, sudo ethtool eth0 returned that ethtool is not installed. (Command not found). I don't have an internet connection on that computer so give me a second while I install it manually.
[20:37] <endip> ethtool that is
[20:37] <Seveas> ethtool is not installed by default? Damn...
[20:38] <astraljava> endip: You can also do `grep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog`, and see whether it even recognizes the interface.
[20:38] <chenthu> why do i have to run modperobe b43 everytime i loggin to make my wifi work.....is thaere a way to enable it permanently
[20:39] <Seveas> chenthu, echo b43 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[20:39] <Omneh> hi there, I have a new laptop, I just installed 11.04, it's a tablet and it has a wacom integrated as a touchscreen, but xsetwacom --list doesn't pick anything up, any ideas?
[20:39] <chenthu> Seveas: thank you
[20:40] <synapse> wow, did a dist upgrade from edgy (I think) to 10.04 with no problems, didn't screw up anything for my nvidia
[20:40] <synapse> first time that's EVER worked
[20:40] <peeps[lappy]> is there a ppa or something to get the latest nvidia drivers?  or do i just have to download/install them outside of the package manager
[20:40] <CoJaBo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660072/ , also, how do I run it in gdb?
[20:40] <synapse> when will a dist upgrade for 11.04 be available?
[20:40] <Zorgs> Oh come on, how come it takes forever to install a webbrowser on the computer?
[20:41] <Seveas> CoJaBo, gdb gimp
[20:41] <endip> astraljava, thanks I'll try that too
[20:41] <synapse> gdb gimp?
[20:41] <Seveas> and in the gdb thing, just type run
[20:41] <Zorgs> Trying to install Google Chrome and it has asked me to verify with password and then nothing happens
[20:41] <astraljava> Btw. good to see you again, Seveas. :) (I know, OT, non-relevant, but still :D)
[20:41] <peeps[lappy]> really getting sick of abysmal graphics performance with nvidia
[20:42] <Omneh> synapse, run "update-manager -d" and you should get the option to install 11.04
[20:42] <synapse> peeps[lappy]: what card?
[20:42] <frenzz> hello, how extract all *.zip files in folder ?
[20:42] <wrtiii> How do I get out of VI ?
[20:42] <peeps[lappy]> synapse, Quadro FX 880M on a Lenovo Thinkpad W510
[20:42] <cgtdk> :q!
[20:42] <synapse> for i in *.zip; unzip $i; done
[20:42] <cgtdk> wrtiii: Enter :q!
[20:42] <endip> StevenR, I added too that pastebin the contents of ethtool eth0 http://pastebin.com/7YXWpDWx -- still around?
[20:42] <wrtiii> I think I am going to have a preference for nano
[20:43] <Seveas> wrtiii, vim will grow on you if you don't watch out :)
[20:43] <CoJaBo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660073/ , but appearently missing symbols for..something
[20:43] <Omneh> wrtiii, :q will quit, :q! will quit with forcing no saved changes :wq will quit while writing changes, so will just typing ZZ
[20:43] <synapse> how come 11.04 doesn't automatically show it?
[20:43] <synapse> in the gui
[20:43] <cgtdk> It sure will
[20:43] <Omneh> but you have to be in command mode, if the bottom of your screen says insert or replace or visual then you need to peck Esc
[20:44] <Omneh> synapse, show what in the gui?
[20:44] <synapse> peeps[lappy]: you gotta get a real nvidia card, I have a 9800gt sli and it's badass
[20:44] <thomasw_> hi, having an issue w/sporadic lagging in video. using 11.04 toshiba netbook nb205
[20:44] <synapse> the DIst upgrade button is greyed out
[20:44] <Seveas> CoJaBo, you need the libgtk2.0-0-dbgsym package
[20:44] <cgtdk> synapse: I have a GTX 580 (though not on this box) and it's badass!
[20:45] <cgtdk> :D
[20:45] <cliffton> some one feel like helping me with external drive? it wont read?
[20:45] <synapse> shouldn't I just be able to run update-manager and it's there
[20:45] <synapse> cliffton: use fdisk and wipe it
[20:45] <escott> frenzz, for f in *.zip; do unzip $f; done;   or ls *.zip | xargs unzip
[20:45] <Omneh> synapse, I couldn't tell you dude, but just FYI, if you're upgrallingreinstading your computer all the way from edgy to natty you might want to consider backing up your home directory and just
[20:45] <Omneh> reinstaling
[20:45] <napoly> 	hello plp.. i have here a lenovo B560.. with ubuntu 11.04.. kernel is 2.6.38-10-generic .. and the problem is my Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller... can pls someone help me with drivers for it.. ? i have tried firmware-b43-installer but no luck
[20:45] <synapse> Omneh: nah
[20:46] <synapse> I'd need a 1TB drive for USB
[20:46] <astraljava> synapse: I thought the Quadro cards _were_ badass.
[20:46] <synapse> and I am too cheap to pay for it
[20:46] <synapse> the 9800 cards are badass
[20:46] <synapse> 1GB ram, SLI support, chain em to gether if you want
[20:46] <endip> astraljava, I also added the output of the command you gave me to that pastebin http://pastebin.com/KYZn1QcY
[20:46] <Omneh> synapse, they're on sale through newegg at the moment, I just bought one for my gf for like $70
[20:46] <endip> StevenR, Are you gone?
[20:46] <synapse> I can play TF2/L4D2 in wine perfectly if I want
[20:47] <italoxp> synapse, seriously?
[20:47] <synapse> yeah
[20:47] <italoxp> synapse, from steam?
[20:47] <synapse> playonlinux
[20:47] <synapse> yeah
[20:47] <italoxp> No issues?
[20:47] <italoxp> No voice issues, no Overlay issues?
[20:47] <synapse> I need to unmess my L4D2 wineprefix
[20:47] <synapse> but TF2 works fine
[20:47] <Omneh> hi there, I have a new laptop, I just installed 11.04, it's a tablet and it has a wacom integrated as a touchscreen, but xsetwacom --list doesn't pick anything up, any ideas?
[20:47] <synapse> I gotta update something for L4D2 to work right
[20:47] <synapse> but its a wine prefix deal
[20:48] <bazhang> !ot | synapse
[20:48] <endip> I have the same exact ethernet controller in my laptop as in my desktop, and my desktop wired connection isn't working at all. 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[20:48] <synapse> sorry
[20:48] <CoJaBo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660075/
[20:48] <italoxp> synapse, go to offtopic
[20:48] <italoxp> synapse, let's talk
[20:49] <astraljava> endip: So it's not getting anything from DHCP. Are there other devices that do get an IP from the DHCP server, wherever it resides in your network?
[20:49] <wols_> endip: is it eth0 now?
[20:49] <wols_> endip: and what if you set up a static IP via /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:50] <Seveas> CoJaBo, do you have a .gtkrc with crap in it?
[20:50] <endip> wols I posted all the outputs a few minutes ago in pastbin
[20:50] <endip> wols just a sec
[20:50] <endip> wols :: http://pastebin.com/KYZn1QcY
[20:50] <Seveas> CoJaBo, can you run 'strace -f gimp', maybe it's trying to parse a broken configfile and hitting a bug
[20:51] <endip> wols :: I would love to set up a static ip. how do I do that? (PS. All of my info is in that pastebin file) I did exactly was you told me. Reinstalled ubuntu and came back for help. Glad to see you're here.
[20:52] <wols_> endip: http://paste.debian.net/125309/
[20:52] <wols_> endip: this is a /etc/network/interfaces stanza
[20:53] <Seveas> endip, there's no dhcp server listening on your network
[20:53] <CoJaBo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660080/
[20:54] <wols_> endip: not for long. it's 11pm
[20:54] <Seveas> endip, do you have an adsl/cable router thing that has a whitelist for who can connect?
[20:54] <endip> Seveas -- No white list no.
[20:54] <endip> wols. I'm on it.
[20:54] <cjs226> i have ubuntu-desktop 11.04 installed in a vm i'm usring to tinker with.  how can i disable X from starting?  google's not returning working solutions
[20:55] <endip> wols :: how do I put that info into my interfaces or whatever. Where's the file again, I don;t remember
[20:56] <adrian15> cjs226: You can try to unlink a link from /etc/rc2.d to /etc/init.d/gdm . That is if upstart is not the default yet and if gdm is still used... maybe it is used ldm (lightdm).
[20:56] <endip> Seveas -- the only limitation on my router is that I have it set to allow 10 IP address. I have like 4 or 5 computers connected.
[20:57] <endip> Seveas :: Actuall I only have 4 computers on my network that have IP addresses. So I don't think that's it. (Though I could always be wrong)
[20:57] <endip> wols :: Where's that interfaces file that I need to added those lines to?
[20:57] <Seveas> endip, did you have other computers connected in the past? They might still be in the routers config
[20:58] <astraljava> endip: What does `sudo dhclient3 eth0` output?
[20:58] <endip> Seveas :: The router is currently showing 4 computers connected. 4 IP addresses given out. (I'm monitoring it.)
[20:58] <wols_> < wols_> endip: this is a /etc/network/interfaces stanza
[20:58] <Seveas> CoJaBo, it looks related to your theme, it crashes when initializing parts of it
[20:58] <Zorgs> Anyone have a good way to run windows games in Ubuntu?
[20:59] <QuanticZ> Use Wine + Winetricks
[20:59] <yeats> !wine | Zorgs
[20:59] <bazhang> !appdb | Zorgs
[20:59] <wols_> Zorgs: there is only one way: WINE. and it doesn't fully work and never will
[20:59] <endip> astraljava,  it outputs chown: failed to get attributes of 'etc/resolv.conf' : No such file or directory
[20:59] <endip> wols :: thanks, on it.
[20:59] <wrtiii> Found something that says I need to manually configure my dns servers  in resolv.conf after making my server static?
[20:59] <CoJaBo> Seveas: Yeh, indeed I just found that. It was set to Oxygen, I changed it to the only other, Raleigh- Someone should probably put a workaround bug or somethng for that..
[20:59] <wols_> wrtiii: yes
[21:00] <yeats> endip: make sure there's a / before etc: '/etc/resolv.conf'
[21:00] <endip> wols :: wait, do I need to make a new file then, and name it stanza?
[21:00] <cjs226> adrian15: i don't see gdm or ldm in rc2.d so i guess "upstart" is the default.  i google that, thx
[21:00] <wols_> endip: no
[21:00] <adrian15> cjs226: Can you pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/rc2.d please ?
[21:00] <endip> wols :: sorry I
[21:00] <QuanticZ> Anybody having problems with Ubuntu 10.10 x64 and Flashplayer?
[21:00] <Seveas> wrtiii, if you have a static ip, resolvers are configured statically too. YOu don't need to edit files manually though, all can be done with network-manager
[21:00] <endip> wols edit interfaces then?
[21:01] <wrtiii> Seveas: network-manageR? commandline?
[21:01] <Seveas> wrtiii, gui
[21:01] <Seveas> I missed the word server. Files and vim it is :)
[21:01] <wrtiii> that won't work then :P
[21:01] <endip> wols I was confuse by the stanza part. (I guess I don't know what that is.)
[21:01] <K-Rich> damn that peer
[21:02] <wols_> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stanza
[21:02] <cjs226> adrian15: http://pastie.org/2331605
[21:02] <Zorgs> !virtualizers
[21:02] <CoJaBo> Seveas: Thanks for the help tracking it down
[21:02] <Seveas> K-Rich, peer is paid by anonymous and lulzsec to kill peoples connections
[21:02] <Seveas> CoJaBo, np
[21:02] <endip> wols :: I added those lines to interfaces
[21:02] <endip> yeats :: thanks.
[21:02] <Zorgs> !VirtualBox
[21:02] <wols_> endip: you did change them so they fit your network IPs, right?
[21:03] <adrian15> cjs226: Check for upstart as you were about to do. I am curious on what is ondemand but I don't think xorg start is there.
[21:04] <cjs226> adrian15: i'll do, thx for looking
[21:04] <endip> wols yes, I better check to make sure they're correct
[21:04] <adrian15> cjs226: Anyway if you only want to get rid of xorg you can try something like: apt-get remove xserver-xorg*
[21:04] <wols_> endip: ifup eth0  or ifup -a would set them
[21:05] <cjs226> adrian15: i'm wanting to keep it installed as i'll likely play around with GUIs at some point but they're not needed for what i'm currently doing
[21:05] <endip> wols :: I'm getting output: SIOCADDRT: No such process Failed to bring up eth0
[21:06] <wols_> endip: then what network device name is it? and you will need to change your interfaces file to choose the right one
[21:07] <chenthu> can some one tell me 32bt libs like "ia32-libs"?
[21:07] <yeats> endip: using 'sudo ifup eth0'?  (assuming you're not in a root shell)
[21:07] <endip> wols: ok. I think I'm following. Auto eth0
[21:07] <endip> yeats: yes, sudo ifup eth0
[21:08] <yeats> endip: okay - just checking ;-)
[21:08] <wols_> endip: what is your ethernet's device name?
[21:08] <adrian15> cjs226: Another way of disabling it might be editing the corresponding script on /etc/init.d/ (gdm, xdm or ldm) and add a "exit 0" line as the second line after the #!/bin/bash line.
[21:08] <adrian15> cjs226: But that's more a hack than an elegant disabling of Xorg.
[21:08] <endip> wols :: Sorry, how can I find my ethernet's device name?
[21:09] <endip> wols :: I'm just not sure I know exactly what you're asking for.
[21:09] <dr_willis> the 'text' kernel option tells the system to not start gdm, and disablex X adrian15
[21:09] <wols_> endip: ifconfig -a
[21:09] <dr_willis> adrian15:  or rename the /etc/init/gdm.conf file to be like gdm.DONTRUN
[21:10] <chenthu> hey can some one give me suggestions for 32bit libs other than ia32-libs , so that i can run i386 .debs on my amd64 arch system...
[21:10] <endip> wols ;; eht0 --- Wait, It's showing an IP address now in ifconfig -a
[21:10] <Articate> I'm contempating installing ubuntu on a usb-drive - is it doable?
[21:10] <endip> wols :: wth0
[21:10] <Articate> and what size would it have to be?
[21:10] <wols_> endip: which IP is it?
[21:10] <endip> wols_, sorry man, I'm dumb, eth0
[21:10] <endip> wols_, 192.168.1.110
[21:10] <wols_> endip: you also need to set the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf if you use the static IP
[21:10] <adrian15> chenthu: I use ia32-libs but you might want to try with a chroot, it might help.
[21:11] <v3n0w> Hello guys. I have upgraded to natty, but I think I need the old 1394 firewire stack to make my stereo camera work. And it is not available. Is there any work around for this?
[21:11] <Obfuscation> anyone know why my DVD driver will read bought DVDs and some burnt DVDs as long as they aren't burnt from a Windows machine?
[21:11] <endip> wols_, Ok, the nameserver is currently set at 192.168.0.1
[21:11] <chenthu> adrian15: ok but i am new to linux and could u tell me what a chroot is or a link to start with?
[21:12] <wols_> !chroot
[21:12] <dr_willis> Obfuscation:  are the disks 'finalized
[21:12] <adrian15> cjs226: Did you see dr_willis pieces of advice? /etc/init.d/gdm.conf probably it is /etc/init.d/gdm .
[21:12] <wols_> endip: so can you ping google now?
[21:12] <dr_willis> Obfuscation:  are the disks 'finalized' after you burn them? windows can treat them as a big floppy disk  and wont finalize them which can  cause issues.. dependin on hwo it burnt.
[21:13] <dr_willis> adrian15:  cjs226  on 10.04 it is /etc/init/gdm.conf   init.d is the OLD sysv method... init is Upstart
[21:13] <l4than-d3vers> Hello, does anyone know how I can invert the colors on my display *without compiz* ?
[21:13] <dr_willis> l4than-d3vers:  change your theme colors..
[21:13] <Delano> hi, i get an error saying my software index is broken. It says "the package remastersys needs to be reinstalled but I can't find the package for it"
[21:13] <cjs226> adrian15 | dr_willis: i tried using text as a kernel option in grub and i never receieved a console upon bootup
[21:13] <endip> wols_, no, I get unknown host google.com
[21:13] <wols_> endip: ping your router IP
[21:14] <dr_willis> cjs226:  thats odd.. i tend to use 'nosplash nofb noquiet text'
[21:14] <adrian15> dr_willis: Thank you. /etc/init/ . Interesting.
[21:14] <adrian15> cjs226: How did you add that kernel option ?
[21:14] <endip> wols_,  I get Network is unreachable
[21:14] <wols_> endip: what is your router ip?
[21:14] <Delano> hello?
[21:14] <endip> wols 192.168.0.1
[21:15] <dr_willis> !upstart
[21:15] <wols_> endip: then why did you set the static IP to be 192.168.1.10?
[21:15] <v3n0w> Hello guys. I have upgraded to natty, but I think I need the old 1394 firewire stack to make my stereo camera work. And it is not available. Is there any work around for this?
[21:15] <cjs226> dr_willis: with 11.04?  i added text to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in /etc/default/grub then ran update-grub
[21:15] <Captainkrtek> endip: it should be x.x.0.10
[21:15] <endip> wols_, good question. :-(
[21:15] <adrian15> cjs226: Do you get the option when you run cat /proc/cmdline ?
[21:16] <dr_willis>  cjs226  thats how i do it all the time..
[21:16] <cjs226> adrian15 | dr_willis: i'll try it again
[21:16] <dr_willis> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[21:16] <endip> Captainkrtek, yeah, I know, I just changed it
[21:16] <dr_willis> oops dont have text here. :)
[21:17] <dr_willis> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nomodeset text"
[21:17] <endip> wols do I need ifup again after changing interfaces?
[21:17] <wols_> yes. ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[21:18] <endip> wols_,  a better question might be, how can I get a new ip address after I change the interfaces file? It's still set at 192.168.1.110
[21:18] <wrtiii>  cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall/examples/Universal /etc/shorewall  --->  cp: omitting directory `/usr/share/doc/shorewall/examples/Universal'
[21:18] <wols_> I just told you the commands to use
[21:18] <wrtiii> wtf ^^
[21:18] <endip> wols :: I got a new ip address now.
[21:18] <dr_willis> wrtiii:  need the -r for recursive option?
[21:18] <Ademan> I'm reading up on mdadm it sounds as though I can create a raid out of two partitions. I have to asymmetrical disks. Is there any reason why I SHOULDN'T create a pair of symmetrical partitions on either disk then use the remainder of the larger disk for /boot ?
[21:18] <cjs226> dr_willis | adrian15: it worked!  i didn't set the noquiet or nosplash before.  could that have been an issue?
[21:19] <wols_> endip: in the proper subnet?
[21:19] <Ademan> two asymmetrical disks*
[21:19] <endip> wols :: yeah, I can ping my router now
[21:19] <dr_willis> cjs226:  i just use them because i HATE plymouth. :)
[21:19] <endip> wols :: i'll try google in a sec
[21:19] <cjs226> dr_willis | adrian15: thanks for your help!
[21:19] <wols_> endip: try your router IP first
[21:19] <Delano> hello?
[21:19] <endip> wols -- pinging google
[21:19] <bazhang> Delano, hi
[21:19] <endip> wols  - I tried both
[21:19] <endip> wols : both are working
[21:19] <Delano> hi, i get an error saying my software index is broken. It says "the package remastersys needs to be reinstalled but I can't find the package for it"
[21:20] <wols_> !info remastersys
[21:20] <bazhang> Delano, remastersys is not in the ubuntu repos, where did you get it from
[21:20] <wols_> Delano: full output of your error when running apt-get please
[21:20] <Delano> wols_, sec
[21:20] <wrtiii> dr_wills: -r worked but what exactly did that do?
[21:20] <farchord> Hey guys, anyone know why there isn't a french canadian layout in the latest Xubuntu? Tried Canada Multilingual, all variations, but they dont match
[21:21] <wols_> wrtiii: you tried to copy a whole directory
[21:21] <endip> wols :: so, this is bypassing the network manager?
[21:21] <wols_> endip: yes
[21:22] <Captainkrtek> farchord: I dont know if there is
[21:22] <farchord> mmm :(
[21:22] <endip> wols_, So, this is crazy. I have the same ethernet controller on my laptop and it works fine. Any idea why it isn't working on this new box?
[21:22] <Delano> wols_, http://pastebin.com/EcCykbZF
[21:22] <adrian15> wols_: network-manager will replace /etc/network/interfaces when the cable is plugged in and plugged out and he needs to remove it or... will it respect the interfaces content? I had some problems with that long ago that's why I ask.
[21:23] <Captainkrtek> farchord: you could try this though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66115
[21:23] <Captainkrtek> :-)
[21:23] <lixxus> what is the upgrade path from v7 to v8 ?
[21:23] <adrian15> wols_: The question is related to endip issue.
[21:23] <chenthu> !chroot
[21:23] <bazhang> !eol | lixxus
[21:23] <wols_> adrian15: it intended to ignore any interfaces for which /etc/network/interfaces has settings
[21:24] <bazhang> lixxus, you would not, you'd update to a supported version
[21:24] <farchord> Captainkrtek, guess ill try that thanks
[21:24] <wols_> emid: no. imho nm is simply shitty software
[21:24] <szal> lixxus: what is v7 and v8?
[21:25] <Captainkrtek> farchord: no problem, good luck!
[21:25] <endip> wols_, will these settings get lost if I reboot, or  unplug? Via adrian15 's question.
[21:26] <wols_> endip: no. they persist
[21:26] <wols_> Delano: pastebin.com times out
[21:26] <Delano> wols_, ?
[21:26] <Reaper> virtualbox
[21:26] <Reaper> doh
[21:26] <wols_> Delano: you have a package remastersys installed from god knows where. remove it with dpkg
[21:27] <adrian15> wols_: I see. I think that network-manager made me nervous when I set up the network manually with ifconfig commands without editing interfaces file. That might be.
[21:27] <endip> wols_, ok. thanks a lot. I have to go work on file sharing now. any suggestions on where to read up on sharing between linux PCs?
[21:27] <wols_> adrian15: yes, using ifconfig to set up the network is not respected by nm. it will overwrite that kind of config immediately
[21:27] <endip> wols I haven't done it in a while.
[21:27] <v3n0w> Hello guys. I have upgraded to natty, but I think I need the old 1394 firewire stack to make my stereo camera work. And it is not available. Is there any work around for this?
[21:27] <adrian15> wols_: Although I would recommend endip to add a dns-nameservers line to interfaces file because I am not sure if network-manager tried to overwrite it if it found another interface.
[21:28] <LarsT> Hello!
[21:28] <wols_> adrian15: for that you need the resolvconf package
[21:28] <Delano> wols_, how do I remove it with dpkg?
[21:28] <adrian15> wols_: Ahm, yes, you are right.
[21:28] <wols_> Delano: dpkg -r   see man dpkg
[21:29] <farchord> Captainkrtek, ha! I'm proud of myself now! I found how, wasn't that link! XD xfce comes with a configuration editor, basically a bit like Windows's Registry editor, in it's most simplified form. Changed the keyboard layout there, and BAM, worked :)
[21:30] <derp> How do i merge 2 folders in Ubuntu?
[21:30] <Delano> wols_, not sure how to use it
[21:31] <adrian15> derp: Can you define "merge" ?
[21:31] <derp> adrian15, 2 different folders with different filenames into one single folder
[21:32] <Seveas> derp, mv -i /path/to/folder1/* /path/to/folder2/
[21:32] <Seveas> -i for interactive, that prompts before overwriting files
[21:32] <derp> thanks.
[21:32] <adrian15> derp: Moving them into a new folder ? Or just linking them ?
[21:32] <derp> adrian15, Seveas gave me a good answer
[21:32] <derp> :)
[21:33] <chenthu> unity is supposed to open an already running instance of an application when it is minimized and reclicked the application icon...but this doesnt seem to happen with XChat...whay is that?...every time i click it creates a new instance of xchat with the other one still running
[21:33] <adrian15> derp: Seveas answer: If a file is in both folder1 and folder2 the folder1 copy will be preserved and the folder2 will be lost.
[21:34] <coz_> chenthu,  does middle click do it?
[21:35] <chenthu> coz_, hmmm let me check it...
[21:35] <Seveas> adrian15, not with -i. It'll ask you whether to overwrite or not
[21:36] <chenthu> coz_, lol...sry i am using  keypad and there is no middle mouse button ... :-P
[21:36] <coz_> chenthu,  ah ok hold on
[21:36] <adrian15> Seveas: You are right :) .
[21:36] <chenthu> coz_, ok
[21:36] <Seveas> adrian15, I always am :P
[21:37] <LarsT> freenet.de
[21:37] <LarsT> sorry
[21:37] <LarsT> wrong thing
[21:38] <DangerOnTheRangr> When I log in, notifications are displayed, but after GNOME finishes loading, notifications no longer display. Does anyone know why this is? I'm using 10.04.
[21:39] <coz_> chenthu,  take alook here   http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-04-Unity-Keyboard-Shortcuts-and-Tricks-200390.shtml   I believe one way to open xcaht from launcher , rather  not open a second instance is  windows key  ( aka Super)  and the nnumber of the icon from top to bottom on the launcher
[21:40] <chenthu> coz_, ok will look at it..thank you :)
[21:40] <HelloWorld321> Does this look okay in /etc/environment: JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26"  (I just added this line as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=901442, and now I'm getting a: system problem detected, would I like to report it?)
[21:40] <peepsalot> how do i switch from nvidia drivers to nouveau?  i used the "additional drivers" GUI tool or whatever it's called to disable nvidia but now i just can't get into X, it seems to still be looking for nvidia drivers on boot
[21:41] <bregma> peepsalot, boot into text mode and type 'sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current'
[21:41] <bregma> peepsalot, it may also be necessary to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:42] <coz_> chenthu,  no problem,, I do have an image that is going to be used as a compiz plugin with some of the shortcuts  as an overlay image but that plugin is not ‌in compiz just yet   here is the image     http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/keys.png
[21:42] <Seveas> HelloWorld321, that shouldn't be needed.
[21:42] <Seveas> correct symlinks to java etc. are maintained bia update-java-alternatives
[21:43] <HelloWorld321> Seveas: Tx.  K.  It's probably an obsolete posting
[21:43] <chenthu> coz_, the link u gave speaks of short cuts...but i want it to work it like it does on chrome firefox ermianl or other apps with a small marker to the left of the icon
[21:43] <coz_> chenthu,  mm  ... let me log into unity and test it hold on
[21:44] <HelloWorld321> Seveas: I'm actually trying to set up a glassfish server for development (which is what the article is about) ... just grab all 7 packages in Ubuntu Software Center?
[21:44] <adrian15> HelloWorld321: What I do to activate java is to enable partner repository and install the sun-java-jre package.
[21:44] <Seveas> HelloWorld321, you'll need at least glassfish-javaee glassfish-appserv and glassfish-activation iirc
[21:45] <Seveas> it's been years since I touched that
[21:45] <HelloWorld321> Seveas, adrian15: Tx, kindly
[21:45] <chenthu> coz_, ok
[21:46] <Seveas> yeah, definitely use the sun java. openjdk and gcj cause nothing but problems for me
[21:47] <peepsalot> bregma, thanks, got into X  again
[21:47] <coz_> chenthu,  ok  now you have xchat opened   and  it is minimized ...yes?
[21:47] <coz_> chenthu,  or explain again what you want ?
[21:47] <peepsalot> unfortunately this driver is 10x slower than the already terrible nvidia driver.  i through it was suppoed to beat nvidia in 2d performance
[21:49] <Fuego> Hi; trying to dual-boot ubuntu onto a formerly windows 7 machine via. live CD (or alternate). Ubuntu fails to recognize the hard drive through the instalation process, though I can find it in GParted with the live CD.
[21:49] <szal> peepsalot: how is the nVidia driver terrible?
[21:49] <Fuego> Can anyone help?
[21:49] <peepsalot> poor frame rate mainly,  also i've never seen one that worked with suspend or hibernate
[21:49] <bazhang> Fuego, formerly windows? dual boot with what then
[21:49] <chenthu> coz_, yeah it is opened but when i minimize it i could not find it anywhere when i click the icon on unity sidebar a new irc client opens,not the previously connected one, i have to use alt+tab to select the xchat again
[21:49] <LarsT> !Help | Fuego
[21:49] <bazhang> LarsT, he did.
[21:50] <matalo> can i remove a package with dpkg but leave all package files installed?
[21:50] <coz_> chenthu,  ok understood,, let me play here since I genrerally dont use unity
[21:50] <Fuego> bahzang - sorry, is still windows. I mean I'm moving from pure windows 7 to the dual boot.
[21:50] <StevenR> matalo: why do you want to do that? What's your actual goal?
[21:50] <LarsT> bazhang
[21:50] <LarsT> [23:49] <Fuego> Can anyone help?
[21:50] <bazhang> Fuego, ah okay; windows 7 sometimes creates this odd 100 mb partition
[21:51] <matalo> php5-sqlite has broken deps, i'm not actually using it but a php application requires it
[21:51] <bazhang> LarsT, he already asked the question. please pay attention
[21:51] <matalo> StevenR: php5-sqlite has broken deps, i'm not actually using it but a php application requires it
[21:51] <LarsT> !repeat
[21:51] <LarsT> i meant
[21:51] <chenthu> coz_, but in the case of firfox, chrome, terminal and other apps. when i minimize, i get a small marker to the left of the icon and the number of marker curresponds to the number of windows or instances of that application running and i get to choose the instance with the switcher
[21:51] <bazhang> Fuego, I'd boot using the gparted livecd
[21:51] <bazhang> LarsT, stop that
[21:51] <LarsT> bazhang stop too do not annoy me
[21:51] <Fuego> gparted live CD?
[21:51] <LarsT> i do my thing you do yours
[21:51] <coz_> chenthu,  I see that,, mm could be a issue with xchat itself then
[21:52] <Fuego> How is that different from the standard live CD?
[21:52] <coz_> chenthu,  I am not having any luck with this here but still playing
[21:53] <chenthu> coz_, i dont think this is a problem with xchat, cause some other app too behaved the same way...let me find out
[21:53] <Seveas> bazhang, having fun with the trolls?
[21:54] <coz_> chenthu,  sorry I have to log out of Unity, I am not at all likeing this   brb
[21:54] <chenthu> coz_, yeah it was with Vidalia (Tor) but that was worse...cause it would never open another instance and would never kill the previous one too...got me stauck that i have to relog to make tor work again
[21:54] <peepsalot> how do i quit X for a manual install of nvidia driver binary?  IIRC i have to set the runlevel to something?
[21:54] <Fuego> Looking up the GParted Live Cd- I'm unsure as to what it does for me, in this case?
[21:55] <Seveas> peepsalot, <ctrl><alt><f1>, log in, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:55] <bazhang> Fuego, hang on a second busy just now
[21:55] <chenthu> coz_, wb
[21:55] <matalo> StevenR: I was hoping dpkg could remove the package but leave all installed files behind. That will solve my broken dependency problems and still let the app believe that php5-sqlite is installed.
[21:55] <coz_> chenthu,  I am going to back out of this issue  since I cant be sure of its solution , I dont use Unity at all
[21:55] <chenthu> coz_, yeah it was with Vidalia (Tor) but that was worse...cause it would never open another instance and would never kill the previous one too...got me stauck that i have to relog to make tor work again
[21:56] <Fuego> Alright.
[21:56] <chenthu> coz_, thats ok...thank you for trying out... :)
[21:56] <coz_> chenthu,  no problem,, sorry  I couldnt solve this one
[21:56] <Seveas> LarsTorben, can you please stop annoying bazhang? If you don't agree with his actions, please discuss it in #ubuntu-ops instead of trying to join
[21:56] <chenthu> coz_, thats ok ...i think i got to report this bug
[21:57] <peepsalot> Seveas, nvidia binary still says i'm running X
[21:57] <chenthu> coz_, are u using xchat?
[21:57] <bastidrazor> peepsalot: sudo service gdm stop
[21:57] <coz_> chenthu,  yes I am
[21:57] <coz_> chenthu,  it didnt work well in Unity at all
[21:57] <peepsalot> bastidrazor, that seemed to work
[21:58] <Seveas> peepsalot, nasty trick to do in the terminal where you logged in (don't do this if you logged in as root!): kill -9 -1  (this kills all your processes except the current shell)
[21:58] <coz_> chenthu,  as far as     minimizing it and maximizing it
[21:58] <chenthu> coz_,can i pm u regarding an xchat query as this is only for ubuntu
[21:58] <coz_> chenthu,  sure
[21:58] <earl_> nick
[21:58] <Seveas> hi Myrtti
[21:59] <bastidrazor> peepsalot: you can then install the driver from that same tty and also restart X  with sudo service gdm start ..also getting to X again would be ctrl alt F7
[21:59] <Seveas> (bastidrazor, ctrl is not needed to go back to X, just ALT+F7)
[21:59] <bastidrazor> Seveas: i stand corrected
[22:00] <ma5t3rw1tt> does restarting X in Lubuntu the same as in Ubuntu?
[22:00] <DangerOnTheRangr> I found the answer to my own question (notify-osd not displaying messages): You must disable any applications (like Totem) that keep the screensaver from activating. It's a known bug with notify-osd - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/402962
[22:00] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, probably not
[22:01] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas - Have they changed the key combination of restarting X?
[22:01] <StevenR> matalo: in that case, you could either fix the package (file a bug if it's bug), or extract the package manually, and put everything where it should be (though I don't advise that)... or install a "local" copy in /usr/local
[22:01] <HSL> Hi, I keep getting this error: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale
[22:01] <HSL> svn: warning: environment variable LC_CTYPE is UTF-8
[22:01] <HSL> svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct
[22:01] <HSL> and I can't get rid of it.
[22:01] <HSL> anyone got a clue?
[22:01] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, no, but it's /etc/init.d/ldm restart and not gdm
[22:01] <Seveas> HSL, pastebin the output of 'env'
[22:01] <herrgabriel> I messed up with my DeJa Dup backup settings, postponed the backup and now it won't let me choose a new setting. How do I remove DeJa Dup with all it's settings? Ubuntu 10.04 here
[22:02] <Seveas> herrgabriel, sudo apt-get remove --purge deja-dup
[22:02] <Seveas> --purge will remove all configfiles from /etc
[22:02] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: Any direction you could send me on the key combination of restarting X in Lubuntu, I even asked in that channel & no answer
[22:02] <herrgabriel> ah, ok. will try that. thanks
[22:02] <Seveas> if it has config files in your homedir (in ~/.config or ~/.dejadup or instance) you must remove them yourself
[22:03] <napoly> hi i need help with wireless connection on ubuntu 11.04.. can someone please help me.. !?!?!!
[22:03] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, ctrl+alt+f1 to move to TTY1, log in and run the initscript
[22:03] <bazhang> napoly, whats the chipset, pci or usb
[22:03] <Seveas> the old ctrl+alt+backspace shortcut has been disabled in all ubuntu variants a few years ago
[22:03] <HSL> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/EiUkNBgP
[22:04] <Seveas> HSL, your LC_CTYPE is wrong. try this in the shell: unset LC_CTYPE
[22:04] <napoly> broadcom corporation bcm4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[22:04] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: So I press the CTRL+ALT+F1 and then run that /etc/init.d/ldm restart ?
[22:04] <napoly> pci
[22:04] <Seveas> and find out in which configfile (~/.bash* /etc/profile /etc/environment or /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile.d/* it is set)
[22:04] <Seveas> ^- HSL
[22:04] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, yes
[22:05] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: Then the shortcut for restarting becomes CTRL+ALT+F1 from now on?
[22:05] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, there is no shortcut for restarting. c-a-f1 just brings you to a tty
[22:06] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: Ahh I had that happen to me asking me to login, I tried putting startx for getting the desktop back up and nothing work, or do you type something else?
[22:06] <Seveas> alt+f7 to switch back to the terminal where x is running
[22:07] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: Then how would I switch back to the desktop?
[22:07] <napoly> bazhang.. donno if it helps but it is a Lenovo B560
[22:08] <Seveas> ma5t3rw1tt, alt+f7 to switch back to the terminal where x is running
[22:08] <ma5t3rw1tt> oh ok, thanks
[22:08] <HSL> Seveas: this is what is in /etc/environment
[22:08] <HSL> http://pastebin.com/FUn3vjvv
[22:09] <Seveas> HSL, that looks ok, must be one of the other files then
[22:09] <ma5t3rw1tt> @Seveas: Ahhh ok I just tried it and what you said made perfect sense, thanks.
[22:09] <HSL> Seveas: LC_CTYPE is not in any of those files
[22:09] <ma5t3rw1tt> +1 for Seveas
[22:10] <chenthu> coz_, u tgere?
[22:10] <chenthu> coz_, did u get my pm?
[22:11] <Seveas> HSL, try this in the shell: set -x; . ~/.bashrc > bashrc_out 2>&1
[22:12] <Seveas> HSL, and pastebin the resulting bashrc_out file
[22:12] <HSL> + . /root/.bashrc
[22:12] <herrgabriel> Alakazam! The configuration for Deja Dup was in gconf-editor apps/deja-dup. I resetted everything and it let me choose again :)
[22:12] <HSL> ++ echo -ne '\033]0;root@ctu: /etc/profile.d\007'
[22:12] <matalo> StevenR: thanks for the advice
[22:13] <LjL> LarsTorben: please try speaking, i'm not sure i have removed everything
[22:14] <coz_> chenthu,
[22:14] <coz_> chenthu,  does that work now?
[22:14] <HSL> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/QHubWS7B
[22:15] <coz_> chenthu,  if not head over to the #xchat  channel  and speak with them,, they will have the resources to troubleshoot this
[22:15] <chenthu> coz_, nope
[22:15] <Seveas> LjL, there were some mutes. I don't know how freenode handles those these days. chanserv.py removes them :)
[22:15] <chenthu> coz_, OK THANK YOU ... :)
[22:15] <coz_> chenthu, ` no problem
[22:15] <LjL> thanks seveas, i overlooked those
[22:16] <Seveas> HSL, ok, looks like something did that just once. Can you open a new shell and see what LC_CTYPE is set to there?
[22:16] <LjL> LarsTorben: you should be able to speak now, hopefully
[22:16] <Edler> hey guys question
[22:16] <jen> ello
[22:16] <Edler> i want to use RSA key
[22:16] <Edler> so that when i SSH to a server
[22:16] <Edler> it doesn't ask me for password
[22:17] <Edler> i know how to do it
[22:17] <HSL> Seveas: LC_CTYPE=UTF-8
[22:17] <Edler> but what if i wanted to SSH my own server
[22:17] <Seveas> hm
[22:17] <jrib> !ssh | Edler
[22:17] <jen> well got my ipod registered, I have songs, apps and what not
[22:17] <jen> but now how do I just add songs
[22:17] <Seveas> HSL, grep CTYPE -R /etc
[22:17] <jen> what do I use and how do I use it
[22:17] <Seveas> time to go brute force :)
[22:17] <Seveas> HSL, also, grep CTYPE ~/.??*
[22:19] <HSL> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/biFpfmpT
[22:19] <HSL> the other one is empty
[22:19] <jrib> HSL: have you recently annoying any gremlins?
[22:20] <HSL> jrib: :P
[22:20] <Seveas> jrib, I think he has. it's confusing :)
[22:20] <HSL> I;ve upgraded from 8.04LTS to 10.04LTS
[22:20] <HSL> but the locale warnings started this week
[22:20] <HSL> really weird
[22:20] <Seveas> what's the last thing you did before they started?
[22:21] <bernhard1>  when ubuntu server boot it gives some choices to boot: recovery mode etc. How can i disable these choices and make it just boot the ubuntu server?   (i noticed that it does not have the countdown and booting unbuntu normally when i make the boot partition read only).
[22:21] <Seveas> anyway, as a workaround at this to the very bottom of your ~/.bashrc: unset LC_CTYPE
[22:21] <jrib> !grub2 | bernhard1
[22:21] <HSL> Seveas: isn't there a way to set this systemwide?
[22:22] <Seveas> HSL, not unless you know where it's set to the wrong value
[22:22] <Seveas> adding this line to the bottom of /etc/bash.bashrc will probably work
[22:23] <jrib> HSL: if you create a new user you could determine whether it was a system issue or user issue
[22:23] <Seveas> jrib++
[22:23] <HSL> jrib: good one, i'll check it now
[22:23]  * jrib guesses it's related to this ruby stuff
[22:24] <HSL> ow shit,.. yeah,.. that's what I did last week
[22:24] <HSL> tried to install RVM,
[22:24]  * chenthu asks "how many of you are using Unity?"
[22:24] <JaUg> Hello, is this the right channel to ask a question about what version to install on my htpc?
[22:25] <jrib> JaUg: sure
[22:25] <coz_> JaUg,   you can try to install the current version,,
[22:25] <JaUg> well i did once but there was problems with drivers
[22:25] <coz_> JaUg,  ah ok  ,,, video drivers ?
[22:25] <JaUg> its Processor: AMD Fusion E-350, Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6310
[22:26] <JaUg> yeah, AMD just released drivers so i wanna try again
[22:26] <coz_> JaUg,  did you try  ubuntu 10.04  LTS
[22:26] <JaUg> but i dont know if i want LTS or 11
[22:26]  * Seveas off, 'night all
[22:26] <JaUg> i think so yes
[22:26] <JaUg> or if i want 32 or 64 bit
[22:26] <coz_> JaUg,   if it was LTS you already tried  then go for the 11.04  ... and is your system 64 bit?
[22:26] <coz_> JaUg,   in terminal      arch
[22:27] <sabaton> coz_, E350 is 64bits
[22:27] <LarsTorben> take ubuntu 11.04 64bit
[22:27] <coz_> sabaton,  thanks
[22:27] <JaUg> as sabaton said :P
[22:27] <coz_> JaUg,  yeah go for the 64 bit 11.04
[22:27] <JaUg> wouldnt it be easier to find drivers and stuff for LTS?
[22:27] <chenthu> JaUg: if u are using linux just for learning abt linux... i think u can choose what ever u want...but if u are using it for a purpose which need constant support and very stable....then i would advice u to choose 10.04 LTS..
[22:27] <magical_walrus> I've already installed Ubuntu 11.04 server and had the installer set up LVM encryption. I want to use a flash drive to decrypt the disk automatically on boot, how can I do this?
[22:28] <sabaton> JaUg, i would try mythbuntu
[22:28] <LarsTorben> JaUg: no it is okay
[22:28] <coz_> JaUg,  I dont know if it would be "easier" to find drivers for LTS
[22:28] <LarsTorben> JaUg, 11.04 is good
[22:28] <JaUg> ok, i found theese drivers wich should be ok right? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[22:28] <coz_> JaUg,  you could also use the mini install iso
[22:28] <LarsTorben> Jaug: yo do not need drivers
[22:29] <LarsTorben> Jaug: ubuntu propose these78
[22:29] <coz_> !mini | JaUg
[22:29] <JaUg> i dont have any problems with bandwidth or HHD space
[22:29] <coz_> JaUg,  well I generally use the mini regardless,, just my preference
[22:30] <sabaton> JaUg, the mythbuntu derivate should give you htpc features out of the box
[22:30] <LarsTorben> i would take normal
[22:30] <LarsTorben> less problems
[22:31] <JaUg> im going to use it as a Media pc (XBMC or Boxee) and Webserver (apache) and storage for all my files wich i want to be able to access from the network
[22:31] <JaUg> so you ubuntu 11.04 is the way to go?
[22:31] <LarsTorben> yes
[22:31] <LarsTorben> y
[22:32] <chenthu> is it possible for me to run ubuntu on my PDA...removing android.......?
[22:32] <jrib> chenthu: i wish i could run linux on my ipod touch :/
[22:32] <meganerd> chenthu: it will depend on the hardware you have, and you will have to wait for the ARM port
[22:32] <JaUg> ok, thanks for your help, last time it didnt work too good with 1080p material, hope it works better with the drivers out
[22:32] <meganerd> jrib: that will never happen
[22:33] <jrib> meganerd: heh they got the kernel to load :P
[22:33] <jrib> just no drivers
[22:33] <chenthu> jrib: lol...android is itself a linux
[22:33] <chenthu> !ARM
[22:34] <magical_walrus> Can anyone tell me how to put the key for decrypting my LVM encrypted disk on a USB drive, so ubuntu decrypts the volume on boot if the USB drive is plugged in?
[22:34] <LarsT> test
[22:34] <LarsT> hm
[22:34] <LarsT> magical_walrus: for the lvm file system ?
[22:35] <chenthu> meganerd: cause i have seen in movies abt people using mobile devices to do stuffs...though they are movies, i bet it can be in reallyty too...
[22:35] <Pat201> what does the wget command do in the terminal
[22:36] <LarsT> Pat201: it fetches packages etc
[22:36] <magical_walrus> LarsT, Yes (I am not quite sure what the proper term is, all I know is I setup ubuntu 11.04 server and had the installer encrypt the volume with a very long passphrase that I chose. I used the alternate installer)
[22:36] <minimec> Körbchengröße 	80B
[22:36] <minimec> Haarfarbe 	schwarz
[22:36] <minimec> Haarlänge 	normal
[22:36] <minimec> Größe 	165cm
[22:36] <FloodBot1> minimec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <chenthu> meganerd: what else other than ARM port?
[22:36] <LarsT> Pat201:  wget link (man wget)
[22:36] <Valter> Can someone help me please?
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ask | Valter
[22:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> grr damned autocompletion... Valter, what do you need help with?  Just ask the question, and we'll respond if we can help you out.
[22:37] <Valter> im asking it in 1 sentence as asked, sec
[22:38] <Valter> I right now have Windows Vista and I want to remove it to install Ubuntu 11.04, but after I run ubuntu install from usb device, shorthly after installing it will stop and say write help for commands or something like that.
[22:38] <wildbat> hmmm ~ is there a command to open *.desktop file from cli?
[22:39] <jrib> wildbat: maybe gvfs-open?
[22:39] <LarsT> Valter, defected iso ? hardware problems ? difficult to say... try 10.1o
[22:39] <jrib> qnope
[22:39] <LarsT> 10.10
[22:40] <Valter> The 11.04 looks really nice, I really want to try it, I have tryed 10.10 already, but I downloaded that iso from ubuntu.com few hours ago.
[22:40] <astraljava> wildbat: It's a text file. You can edit it in an editor of your choice.
[22:40] <Valter> Is there possivbilty to then upgrade 10.10 to 11.04?
[22:40] <LarsT> Valter 10.10 did not work ?
[22:40] <jrib> !upgrade | Valter
[22:40] <Valter> I only used it with vista so i had 2 OSes toghter
[22:41] <wildbat> astraljava: i know i mean to execute it as if you double click
[22:41] <LarsT> perfect
[22:41] <Valter> But now i only want to have ubuntu
[22:41] <LarsT> then boot from 10.10 cd, remove all, install it
[22:41] <sosaited> Valter, Have you seen the Unity interface?
[22:41] <LarsT> if you want 11.04 upgrade to it, or install unity in 10.10 apt-get install unoty14
[22:42] <wildbat> hmmm let me rephase ~ is there a command to execute *.desktop file from cli as if you double click it?
[22:42] <Valter> OKei thanks, will try that
[22:42] <rww> wildbat: try xdg-open. not sure if it'll work, but it might :\
[22:42] <Zorgs> Anyone know how to check freespace on my hdd?
[22:43] <rww> Zorgs: df -h
[22:43] <coz_> Z^^
[22:43] <coz_> darn fingers
[22:43] <Zorgs> thanks
[22:43] <Turkish_Bey> hi
[22:43] <JaUg> One more question, so i want to install 11.04 64bit, but i still want to keep my windows installation (i have an empty partion), can i install from within windows with the mini version too?
[22:43] <JaUg> *partition
[22:43] <wildbat> rww: opened the file with gedit same as jrib's gvfs-open :>
[22:43] <rww> wildbat: :(
[22:44] <magical_walrus> Can someone please tell me how to put the passphrase for my already-encrypted LVM volume on a USB drive? I want ubuntu to decrypt the volume on boot up if it detects the key
[22:44] <synapse> Anyone know why sudo keeps asking for my password when I have "synapse ALL=(ALL) ALL" in /etc/sudoers?
[22:45] <doit_> what is a good mouse management tool for ubuntu? I am using Linux Mint 10 lxde and may need to install an application to change the mouse double click speed.
[22:46] <wildbat> synapse: coz you didn't set NOPASSWD
[22:46] <synapse> thanks
[22:46] <wildbat> synapse: and it is not recommended to set ALL to NOPASSWD ...
[22:47] <synapse> why not
[22:47] <astraljava> doit_: In vanilla ubuntu, there's an app for that in System | Preferences. Since you're using Mint, we cannot help you here.
[22:48] <coz_> doit_,  I believe there is the #linuxmint  channel ....yes?
[22:48] <jrib> wildbat: you could always just parse the file and run the Exec key
[22:48] <astraljava> synapse: Cause that'd be like running Windows as a root user, maybe?
[22:49] <synapse> heh
[22:49] <doit_> astraljava: you are aware that mint is built on ubuntu and if the app works in ubuntu and is in the mint repos I can install it and be off and running.
[22:50] <doit_> coz_: yes there is, but it seems very few people know anything about LXDE. so I have to improvise.
[22:50] <astraljava> doit_: Yes, I am aware, and the official policy of the channel is not to provide support for Mint, as they do some tweaks that ubuntu does not.
[22:50] <wildbat> synapse: not secure , any sudo from any script that you not aware of may cause damage viruses/format/disk erase/file erase you name it .
[22:50] <coz_> doit_,  understood   although I believe there is also an lxde channel,,but as I recall it was nearly vacant last time I looked
[22:50] <doit_> hmm. I guess I need to find an LXDE channel.
[22:50] <doit_> well let us find out.
[22:50] <arooni-mobile> trying to copy a 1.4GB map file from my hard drive => micro SD card (via a SD card adapter) in my memory card reader on lenovo t420 running ubuntu 11.04... its been stuck at 1.4GB of 1.4GB - 0 seconds left (7.3MB/sec)
[22:51] <coz_> doit_,    #lxde
[22:51] <synapse> I hear ya
[22:51] <synapse> I am always worried about getting hacked
[22:51] <wildbat> jrib: what you mean?? you mean make a script ? ;)
[22:52] <Rotham_> hey
[22:52] <r0z4>  hi somebody can help me with mi microphone in ubuntu, i can hear but i cant record sound
[22:52] <Rotham_> can ln be used to pass an arg to the item I'm linking to?
[22:52] <doit_> coz_: yeah, it is almost empty. Not expecting a response in the near future.
[22:52] <coz_> doit_,  :)  I understand
[22:52] <wrtiii> Could someone please give me a brief rundown on clonezilla?  I have intalled my server, configured static IP, SSH, and used Tasksel for LAMP Server.  I added my user to the www-data group and put a quick coming soon html page up via winscp. http://afterlife.dyndns.tv   I still need to configure the dns servers or something since I went static IP?  but what I want to be able to do is create a
[22:52] <wrtiii> mirror image of my server so if I make a mistake somewhere or break something while I start moving into territory that I am not very famillar with I can just back up a step from my backup.
[22:52] <r0z4> I can see the configuration http://imagebin.org/166731
[22:53] <doit_> coz_: guess I will try the #linux channel next
[22:53] <coz_> doit_,   yes  ##linux is a channel I often refer people to
[22:54] <HSL> does anyone have a clue what's going on when my ubuntu server boots fine, I can do everything, but when I look in the console it hangs on  * Starting web server apache2 [ OK ]
[22:54] <wildbat> r0z4: arr..... you mute it ....
[22:54] <r0z4> wildbat no, is not mute
[22:55] <wildbat> r0z4: the checkbox is checked ~ well at least it is Mute in English version.
[22:55] <Baph> HSL, I'd wager that the application in startup sequence that immediately follows apache2 is hanging, check /etc/init.d
[22:55] <astraljava> HSL: If you just hit <enter> after that line is shown, will you be given a prompt?
[22:57] <HSL> astraljava: nope, that's what it used to do, but it really hangs
[22:57] <synapse> I ran update-manager -d and it showed 10.10 as the latest I could goto
[22:57] <r0z4> wildbat this is for no sound when i power my pc, when i tried to record with gnome-sound record i have this error  http://imagebin.org/166733
[22:57] <synapse> do I have to keep doing that to get to the latest?
[22:58] <Flannel> synapse: What are you currently on? 10.04?
[22:58] <jrib> synapse: you should not be using -d anyway
[22:58] <synapse> yeah
[22:58] <HSL> Baph: where can I see the sequence order?
[22:58] <Flannel> synapse: You can just do regular update-manager then.
[22:58] <wildbat> r0z4: no idea ~ sorry ~
[22:59] <engammalsko> is there a irc channel for domain name etc?
[22:59] <synapse> it says my system is up to date
[22:59] <hotel> hello
[22:59] <synapse> when I don't use the distro flag
[22:59] <Flannel> -d stands for development, not distro.
[22:59] <synapse> ok
[23:00] <Flannel> synapse: Can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[23:02] <Baph> HSL: my apache2 (default install) starts on boot from /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2...
[23:02] <Baph> in other words, check the rc{x}.d folders for S...apache2
[23:02] <synapse> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/2Qk5h9UX
[23:02] <Baph> the higher the number, the later it starts
[23:03] <Flannel> synapse: Looks like you're already on lucid.
[23:03] <zykotick9> HSL, Baph /etc/rc* is the old init.d stuff - if your apache is being started with upstart check /etc/init/ for an apache script
[23:03] <synapse> yeah, I want to goto the latest
[23:03] <Flannel> synapse: (that's 12.04)
[23:03] <synapse> ?
[23:03] <synapse> it is showing 10.04 lucid in system monitor
[23:03] <Flannel> er, sorry, I'm confused.
[23:03] <Flannel> right, 10.04 is lucid.  You want to go to 11.04?
[23:03] <synapse> yeah
[23:03] <krebshack> Where can I find an up to date tutorial on having Ubuntu 11.04 boot into the terminal by default? I've checked the forums, and it seems like there's only information about 10.X or lower, and I haven't found great results on google either.
[23:04] <Flannel> synapse: You'll have to upgrade to 10.10 and then from 10.10 to 11.04.  There's no way to do it in one shot.
[23:04] <zykotick9> synapse, you have to do something (i'm not sure what) to get update manager NOT to only consider LTS releases.  Best of luck.
[23:04] <HSL> Baph: zykotick9 well, I want to know what the process is that starts after apache during booting,..
[23:04] <synapse> I went from edgy to lucid and it didn't mess up my nvidia at all
[23:04] <synapse> so I should be safe, right?
[23:04] <zykotick9> synapse, fresh install probably easier then 3 upgrades
[23:04] <wildbat> !boot | krebshack check boot option
[23:04] <HSL> apache works fine, so that's not the problem
[23:04] <synapse> not at all
[23:04] <Flannel> synapse: The way you can tell update-manager that you want to follow every release, and not just LTS, is by going to software sources/software properties, there's one of the last two tabs, you can check "LTS" or "Every"
[23:04] <synapse> when you have 1TB of custom stuff
[23:04] <synapse> heh
[23:05] <bluethundr_> ghost bluethundr oclG30rg3T0wn
[23:05] <synapse> I was amazed that it worked without a problem
[23:05] <Flannel> synapse: It's only two upgrades, you'll be fine doing them individually.  There's no guarantee that jumping random amounts is going to work.
[23:05] <zykotick9> Flannel, thanks
[23:05] <synapse> gotcha, thanks man
[23:05] <Baph> HSL: I'm not sure how upstart determines sequence (I'm on an older version of Ubuntu, and assumed no changes, wrongly)
[23:05] <rww> bluethundr_: if that was a password, you probably want to change it :P
[23:06] <HSL> Baph: I'm on 10.04LTS
[23:06] <grumete> mmmh it's disapointing how my ubuntu gets stucked from time to time, I can't even restart it... it just freeze up.
[23:07] <synapse> freezes up? how so
[23:07] <grumete> and I'm not doing anything "stressing" for the computer, just libreoffice documents.
[23:07] <bluethundr_> rww,  yep..
[23:07] <grumete> synapse, 15 minutes back, I was using amsn, and that was it.
[23:07] <synapse> next time it happens ctrl-alt-f1 and dmesg it
[23:07] <szal> grumete: sounds like hardware acting up
[23:07] <grumete> dmesg?
[23:07] <synapse> yeah, type it to see what is going on
[23:07] <Pat201> how can i find out if im running a 32bit or 64bit version of ubuntu
[23:08] <synapse> if its totally frozen, probably hardware relat ed
[23:08] <grumete> damn
[23:08] <grumete> once in the f1 terminal what could I do to restart it?
[23:08] <synapse> I have held uptimes of a year with this
[23:08] <synapse> is X11 locking up?
[23:08] <szal> Pat201: uname -a <- if it says 'x86_64' it's 64bit, if it says 'i686 i686 i386' it's 32bit
[23:08] <synapse> (the window manager)
[23:09] <mattimus> would anybody be able to help me with compiling a c program that uses appindicator?
[23:09] <Flannel> synapse: Alright, I can't find an image, but if you go to software properties, or software sources (whatever it's called nowadays), you can go to one tab which allows you to cchoose between LTS and every release
[23:09] <Flannel> synapse: I'll keep looking if you'd like an actualy image
[23:09] <Baph> HSL: do you have a file /etc/init/apache2.conf?
[23:09] <synapse> nah, I will upgrade step by step
[23:09] <synapse> because its worth trying
[23:09] <HSL> Baph: apache is not the problem,..
[23:10] <HSL> it looks like it's trying to start sabnzbdplus
[23:10] <Flannel> synapse: This is to upgrade step by step, otherwise it will ignore 10.10 and wait until 12.04
[23:10] <centr0> is there a cd flag that allows me to specify how many levels i want to go up instead of '../../../../'?
[23:10] <HSL> which is not installed anymore
[23:10] <bregma> mattimus, are you having a problem compiling?
[23:10] <synapse> when is 12.04 out
[23:10] <Baph> HSL: I accept that, but in order to determine what follows apache in the start sequence, we first need to find where apache is in that sequence
[23:10] <Flannel> synapse: April (04) of 2012
[23:10] <synapse> oh yeah, I forgot the naming scheme/numbers
[23:11] <HSL> Baph: no don't have a /etc/init/apache2.conf
[23:12] <Baph> HSL, for example, I just checked the /etc/init/rc.conf on a 10.04 box, and it calls "exec /etc/inid.d/rc $RUNLEVEL" - ie, it's using old rc logic, in addition to the newer upstart method
[23:13] <Flannel> synapse: Ah, here we go.  On the "Updates" Tab, down at the bottom, there's a dropdown for "Release Upgrade" (see bottom here: http://www.liberiangeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/securie_update_mav1_thumb.png)
[23:13] <HSL> Baph: I have the same :)
[23:13] <HSL> Baph: but I don't have a apache2.conf file in /etc/init/
[23:14] <Baph> HSL, then find all files named S*apache2 within /etc/rc*... that will tell you where apach2 is in startup sequence
[23:14] <Baph> *apache2
[23:14] <mASOUD_42> centr0:  i can only think of a bash script
[23:14] <centr0> ahh :(
[23:15] <HSL> Baph: is there a fast way to check all the rc* folders?
[23:15] <DreamLauncher> anyone here familiar with DeVeDe ?
[23:16] <HSL> or is manually the way to go?
[23:16] <rannmann> Does ubuntu create a kickstart after install automatically?
[23:16] <Baph> HSL: ls /etc/rc* > ~/output ... open in your favourite text editor
[23:16] <DreamLauncher> I have some hom movies I am trying to convert into a dvd. but when I convert the avi to dvd an burn it I get wrong type displayed on TV
[23:16] <HSL> Baph: already have it :) ls /etc/rc* | grep apache2
[23:16] <HSL> S91
[23:17] <Baph> grepping won't tell you the folder its in, and you need to know... for each rc folder that S91apache2 exists in, what is the next file starting with an S (mine is S91tomcat6)
[23:20] <HSL> Baph: it's in /etc/rc2.d, /etc/rc3.d, /etc/rc4.d, /etc/rc5.d
[23:21] <Baph> HSL: in my case, I have S91apache2 in each of those folders, and if you increase the number, the next file I have is S92tomcat6.... whatever yours is when you increase S{num}... is the service that's causing hanging on boot
[23:21] <HSL> Baph: in all files the "next" one is S98sabnzbdplus
[23:21] <HSL> Baph: I don't have a S92*
[23:22] <Baph> HSL: so apache2 starts, but SABnzbPlus doesn't... my money is on SABnzbPlus causing your issue
[23:22] <nuovodna> hi, i have a big trouble: i cannot suspend with nvidia card (GT 310M). I added     Option         "NvAGP" "1" to Xorg.conf section Device but it still reboot after resume from suspend. How can i solve??
[23:22] <HSL> Baph: SABnzbPlus is not even installed,.. :-)
[23:23] <HSL> I've removed it
[23:23] <nuovodna> i had a specific parameter on grub line but i formatted previous natty installation and now i cannot find the working option
[23:24] <nuovodna> finally found the option!! acpi_sleep=nonvs i hope it will be included in official ubuntu wiki
[23:24] <HSL> Baph: is there a way to clean up everything that "wants" to start up?
[23:24] <Baph> HSL: see update-rc.d for that
[23:26] <rowsdower> Anyone at Defcon?
[23:26] <Deamosseraph> I wish I was
[23:27] <rowsdower> This is my first year here
[23:27] <synapse> thanks again
[23:27] <bazhang> !ot | rowsdower
[23:27] <rowsdower> oops, sorry
[23:27] <Deamosseraph> yeah, come over to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel and tell me bout Defcon this year :P
[23:27] <Nashenas> hey guys, this is a question about apt. I tried using gnome 3, but it has serious issues on my system. I removed the gnome 3 repository, but I don't know how to roll back to the older versions of the packages that were updated in the process. Is there anyone who can help me out or point me in a general direction to proceed?
[23:28] <mega1_> Looking for a firewall for ubuntu
[23:28] <hp_> I have accidentally turned off the wireless switch of my old laptop and switching it back on does not work - my wireless card is disabled. Can I tell Ubuntu to power it back on?
[23:28] <bazhang> !ufw | mega1_
[23:29] <rww> !info ppa-purge | Nashenas
[23:29] <bazhang> mega1_, gufw if you need a gui
[23:29] <Nashenas> rww, thanks :)
[23:33] <noah> ubuntu ausoe
[23:33] <noah> go ubuntu
[23:33] <iandees_> hi all, i'm running into this issue in natty and it's getting quite bad (i need to restart every 12 hours or so): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/684599... Can anyone suggest a work around?
[23:34] <floogy> Hi, there...
[23:34] <HSL> Baph: reinstalled sabnzbd, but still the problems, but now on sabnzbd :)
[23:35] <HSL> Baph: I have 4 different apps with S99*
[23:35] <HSL> Baph: S99fetchmail,S99grub-common,S99ondemand,S99rc.local
[23:36] <ri_EMERGE> hi there! Is there a chat channell for Ubuntu on POwerPC?
[23:36] <xangua> ri_EMERGE: I believe power pc is no longer supported by ubuntu :S
[23:36] <floogy> HSL, in /etc/rc? that should be scripts for shutdown apps
[23:36] <mega1_> I have set up ubuntu server 10.04 with the default user and password how do I change this
[23:37] <xangua> !ppc | ri_EMERGE
[23:37] <HSL> floogy: did you see what Baph was helping me with?
[23:38] <ri_EMERGE> xangua: read that but i can't find solution on web
[23:38] <HSL> all services on my server work fine, but if I look at my console it hangs on the booting of an application, and it never gives me the prompt in the console
[23:38] <ri_EMERGE> I only need help because 10.10-alternate-ppc doesn't recognize hdd and it asks me which driver to load
[23:39] <floogy> mega1, man passwd etc.
[23:39] <floogy> HSL, no, unfortunatly
[23:39] <mega1_> Yes
[23:39] <HSL> floogy: all services on my server work fine, but if I look at my console it hangs on the booting of an application, and it never gives me the  prompt in the console
[23:39] <HSL> :)
[23:40] <hp_> Does anyone know how to re-enable a network card on an Asus M70SA?
[23:40] <floogy> HSL, what app
[23:41] <HSL> the one after sabnzbplus
[23:41] <HSL> but I don't know which one
[23:41] <HSL> :)
[23:41] <floogy> hehe
[23:42] <floogy> that's not foreseen...
[23:42] <HSL> floogy: that's what I'm trying to figure out
[23:42] <HSL> s91 is apache2
[23:42] <HSL> s98 is sabnzb
[23:42] <HSL> and S99 has 4: S99fetchmail,S99grub-common,S99ondemand,S99rc.local
[23:43] <floogy> So, you search for >S88, right?
[23:43] <floogy> oh 99
[23:43] <HSL> >S92
[23:44] <HSL> I want to know which one is after S98,.. but there are 4 different ones.
[23:44] <floogy> ls -alh /etc/rc.d/*
[23:44] <floogy> |grep 9
[23:46] <al_nz1> is there a "lte" version of ubuntu?
[23:46] <al_nz1> lite
[23:46] <mega1_> How do I change the main password
[23:46] <bazhang> al_nz1, lubuntu
[23:46] <xangua> and xubuntu
[23:46] <HSL> floogy: and than?
[23:46] <al_nz1> ok, and from full ubuntu, can you PXE boot these other version?
[23:46] <floogy> HSL, what did you see?+
[23:47] <HSL> floogy: I still have the same list:
[23:47] <HSL> S99fetchmail
[23:47] <HSL> S99grub-common
[23:47] <HSL> S99ondemand
[23:47] <HSL> S99rc.local
[23:47] <FloodBot1> HSL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <bazhang> al_nz1, no need, just install the lubuntu-desktop package. xubuntu is not lighter by much, if any
[23:47] <jstarcher> I run: git svn clone --no-metadata -A ~/users.txt -t tags -b branches -T trunk svn+ssh://jstarcher@myserver.com/svn/repos/myproject and get svn-git died of signal 4
[23:47] <jstarcher> any ideas?
[23:47] <jstarcher> How can I debug this
[23:47] <floogy> HSL, so it might be one of those
[23:48] <HSL> floogy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660149/
[23:48] <al_nz1> bazhang: I already have a ubuntu machine, and I need to have clients PXE boot a lite and fast linux flavour - just to command line
[23:48] <anvo> Why am I not having the option to change to Enlightenment on the login screen...?
[23:49] <anvo> How do I manage to set this option...?
[23:49] <Nashenas> hello again, I've switch my 11.04 into gnome, and when I activated my compiz settings so I can have a desktop cube effect I lost my window borders. Disabling the cube did not bring them back. Any ideas?\
[23:51] <al_nz1> bazhang: were you saying no need to PXE boot?
[23:51] <bazhang> al_nz1, that was before you provided the last bit of info
[23:52] <al_nz1> bazhang: k.
[23:52] <Barzogh> hello , can someone tell where i can found the rpurge application for ubuntu?
[23:52] <Barzogh> please
[23:53] <bazhang> Barzogh, does not exist
[23:53] <Barzogh> oO
[23:54] <JZApples> Is this row in my fstab file bad?  /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0    Does that mean my swap file is just a file and not on its own partition?
[23:55] <HSL> floogy: ok,.. it wasn't fetchmail :)
[23:55] <HSL> I'm not going to disaple grub-common :P
[23:55] <HSL> disable
[23:56] <floogy> on.denand rc.local?
[23:56] <floogy> m
[23:56] <HSL> yeah, they look quite important ;)
[23:56] <VxQf> JZApples, no
[23:56] <VxQf> Are you using LVM?
[23:56] <VxQf> Also
[23:57] <VxQf> In unix-like systems, everything is a file.
[23:58] <hp_> My wireless interface is hard-blocked according to rfkill. The manual switch on my laptop is broken. How can I remedy to that?
[23:58] <JZApples> VxQf, right, but that means its not on its own partition, correct?  wouldn't it be wiser to put that on it's own partition?  And if so, is there any way to shrink the partition my OS is on and create another one strictly for the swap?
[23:59] <mega1_> How do I add user as administrator
[23:59] <VxQf> I am not sure what you are talking about, tbh. The fact that it's being shown under the mapper means it's a partition
[23:59] <VxQf> probably on a raid array or LVM