[00:06] <Floclo> Hi any one here?
[00:06] <xcv> me
[00:06] <bazhang> yes
[00:07] <Floclo> Cool
[00:07] <Floclo> I'm new to linux and I am having trouble dual booting
[00:08] <Floclo> It's a MacBook alum
[00:08] <draik> BootCamp
[00:09] <Floclo> I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site but because I'm using kubuntu it's slightly different
[00:09] <Floclo> I have everything working except when I boot to Linux partition I get
[00:09] <Floclo> Operating system not found
[00:10] <Floclo> I don't think grub installed
[00:10] <xcv> Floclo: i'm sorry, but since have never used a mac, i can't help you
[00:10] <Floclo> Should kubuntu install it by default or should I have been connected to the net to get it
[00:11] <bazhang> !info grub-efi
[00:11] <Floclo> No worries xcv
[00:11] <bazhang> Floclo, intel mac? use refit
[00:12] <Floclo> Yes
[00:12] <Floclo> Refit is installed and working
[00:13] <Floclo> I will have to go now i will come back later thanks so far for listening
[01:28] <robbiesan> Hello, newb to Kubuntu, like it a lot.
[01:29] <robbiesan> I have a question,
[01:30] <robbiesan> How can I widen my internet pages by using two fingers on my touchpad? I good using the other OS
[01:59] <bobweaver> !remaster
[02:49] <chazwoza> hey guys...running kubuntu 11.04. How do I change my mouse cursor for GTK applications?
[02:49] <chazwoza> ive changed the cursor in system settings, but in firefox etc when I put the mouse over it reverts back
[02:56] <chazwoza> nobody? :(
[03:07] <Rod_J> Is UbuntuOne available in Kubuntu or is "OwnCloud" the Kubuntu equivalent?
[03:10] <bazhang> Rod_J, try in #ubuntuone perhaps
[03:10] <Rod_J> OK, thanks
[03:10] <bazhang> no reason you cannot use it with Kubuntu afaik
[03:43] <pidus> Tried everything that I could find on the net to make youtube work on my ff, which worked flawlessly on 10.10, but refuses to go beyond a black screen in 11.04
[03:43] <pidus> any insights?
[03:45] <pidus> I guess #firefox is the place where I should be posing this question.
[06:32] <Floclo> Hi guys
[06:33] <Floclo> How do I check if grub is installed from the terminal in a live cd
[06:33] <Floclo> I'm running dual boot on ms osx
[06:34] <Linkmaster> Floclo: if you're using your system, grub should be installed - you can try pressing the 'shift' key, or wait for grub to show up.
[06:34] <Floclo> Not working...
[06:34] <Linkmaster> Alright
[06:34] <Floclo> I have followed the dual boot instructions...
[06:34] <Floclo> On ubuntu forums
[06:34] <Floclo> But
[06:34] <Linkmaster> Did you install windows before or after?
[06:35] <Floclo> After finishing install I try to boot to kubuntu and I get no os found
[06:35] <Floclo> I had osx lion first
[06:36] <Floclo> I'm dual booting to kubuntu
[06:36] <Floclo> Can I manually install to the kubuntu partition
[06:37] <Floclo> Or maybe there is another issue
[06:38] <Floclo> Any suggestions Linkmaster ?
[06:38] <redeyyez> my laptop has issues detecting smb shares if its been connected to another network.  Have to reboot to get things working properly there must be a way to do this via terminal
[06:38] <Linkmaster> Try installing grub into the kubuntu installation. I don't deal with OS X, so I'm not the best in the world for that
[06:39] <Floclo> Yea how do I install manually?
[06:39] <Linkmaster> redeyyez: you can ssh, if you know how[I don't know well enough to teach though, just giving you google ideas]
[06:40] <Linkmaster> Floclo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[06:40] <redeyyez> Linkmaster: thanks for the idea, i was leaning more towards a command to restart network services or something along that line
[06:40] <Floclo> I found instructions for ubuntu but I can't use su
[06:40] <Linkmaster> I wouldn't know about that, other then bringing down your network interface with ifconfig
[06:41] <Floclo> Oohh
[06:41] <Shirakawasuna> Floclo: supposed to be sudo
[06:41] <Linkmaster> Floclo: using a live cd, just type 'sudo' and it'll be executed automatically
[06:41] <Shirakawasuna> Floclo: ubuntu doesn't like 'su' alone. sudo su works, though
[06:41] <Floclo> New site thanks Linkmaster and Shirakawasuna awesome help
[06:41] <Floclo> Will seevhow i go
[06:43] <Linkmaster> good luck
[06:44] <redeyyez> no one has a lot of networking experience with kubuntu?
[06:45] <Linkmaster> redeyyez: wait patiently. there are a lot of skilled people in the channel, but not all are at their clients at the moment
[06:45] <redeyyez> tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart sometimes this helps
[06:56] <redeyyez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configure laptops for multiple locations  Nice read here for future use.
[07:04] <Floclo> Hey guys still going with this grub issue. In the mean time I thought I would chat about beginning with Linux
[07:04] <Floclo> Any one got good resources for beginners to learn the system.
[07:06] <Alexia_Death> Floclo: Best way to learn is to use it.
[07:06] <Alexia_Death> Floclo: And google for solutions if you have problems.
[07:07] <Alexia_Death> Unlike windows, most error messages on lunx can be copy-pasted.
[07:07] <Floclo> Yea I'm trying to get dual boot on the Mac
[07:07] <Alexia_Death> Wow
[07:07] <Alexia_Death> Adavanced usecase...
[07:07] <Floclo> Yeah problems ATM
[07:07] <Floclo> ?
[07:08] <Alexia_Death> having never ownes or used or even touched a mac I cant help you with that im afraid:(
[07:08] <Floclo> Lol yeah there are guides online
[07:08] <Alexia_Death> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook <- this looks through-
[07:10] <Floclo> Hey should kubuntu install grub by default?
[07:10] <Alexia_Death> It does usually
[07:10] <Alexia_Death> but boot ing for mac-s is abit different so I dont know.
[07:11] <Floclo> I'm trying to work out if it is installed on the partition I installed kubuntu to
[07:11] <Floclo> Do you know how ican tell the terminal to look at dev/sda5 to see if it's installed?
[07:12] <Alexia_Death> It would be easier to look in the config file and see if it is where it should be
[07:13] <Alexia_Death> then just run grub-install in chroot to make sure its installed.
[07:15] <Floclo> Were should it be if I'm looking in that drive
[07:15] <Alexia_Death> hmm /dev/sda5 is a partition...
[07:16] <Alexia_Death> I dont know how mac-s work but on pc-s default location for grub is the mbr
[07:17] <Alexia_Death> you only ever install it on partition if you want to do chain loading I think :/
[07:17] <Floclo> Ohhh I
[07:17] <Floclo> Am thinking I don't know enough either yet
[07:18] <Alexia_Death> yeah... Wait for a mac user to show.
[07:18] <Floclo> I didn't want to install to mbr incase I screw my osx install
[07:18] <Alexia_Death> Or take some risks and experiment:)
[07:18] <Alexia_Death> Yeah.
[07:18] <Alexia_Death> if you dont install it in mbr then you need to configure your os-x loader to chainload.
[07:19] <Alexia_Death> but I dont know how thats done:)
[07:19] <Alexia_Death> find a guide:)
[07:19] <Alexia_Death> maybe you need that bootcamp thingy.
[07:20] <Floclo> Yeah I've got refix as the boot loader
[07:21] <Floclo> I've got a tut for ubuntu should it all work the same for kubuntu because if so it hasn't!
[07:23] <Floclo> Any Mac users here"!?
[07:24] <Floclo> So weird... I've got the got saying the kubuntu partition is basic data?!
[08:37] <tobago> is vim on kubuntu broken? when i yank some line in visual mode, close the file, open another file and try to paste the stuff, the (default) register "" is empty. how come?
[08:38] <tobago> vim on ubuntu itself (other machine) works as expected.
[08:44] <szal> tobago: compare *buntu version and package version, then either answer your question yourself or question its validity ;)
[08:46] <yofel> tobago: only thing I could think of is messing around  with the klipper settings. Maybe that messes up the clipboard handling
[08:46] <yofel> or close klipper and check if it works then
[08:47] <tobago> szal: ubuntu (kernel 2.6.24-29-generic): vim --version --> 7.1  / kubuntu (kernel 2.6.38-10-generic): vim --version --> 7.3
[08:47] <yofel> well, that's two different vim versions, but it works fine for me in 7.3
[08:48] <szal> kernel 2.6.24?  that's a heck of an unsupported version..
[08:48] <tobago> szal: well on that kernel vim works perfectly.
[08:49] <szal> smells like Intrepid or Jaunty
[08:49] <yofel> it's hardy
[08:49] <tobago> szal: even worse: heron ;)
[08:49] <tobago> yofel right
[08:49] <szal> which has ended its life recently even on the server
[08:49] <yofel> er, no, it hasn't
[08:50] <szal> er, yes, it has
[08:50] <szal> !hardy
[08:50] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases server supported till april 2013
[08:50] <tobago> szal: the desktop is not support any longer. but that's another story... it's because on that machine the gma500 intel chipset is not supported by linux.
[08:50] <szal> ah, on the desktop, ok
[08:50] <tobago> in newer versions the x11 doesn't support that chipset.
[08:51] <tobago> anyway. i just want to get vim running on the current kubuntu...
[08:51] <tobago> i means, it runs, but not as expected due to yanking/pasting in the register.
[08:52] <tobago> yofel alright. i try killing klipper and then try the yanking/pasting again.
[08:53] <yofel> I've klipper synchronised to xclipboard, matters maybe
[08:53] <yofel> well, coffee break, bbl
[08:53] <tobago> yofel: mmh. killed klipper but still the same issue.
[08:54] <tobago> maybe a setting in the vimrc?
[09:28] <Machtin> hey there! Any idea why it might be that I can use toslink in vlc, but my browsers won't play sound in flash and html5 (guess in everything else that has sound, too)? I checked opera and firefox.
[09:39] <Peace-> Machtin: pulse could be the problem
[09:40] <Machtin> feared that it might be.. fixable problem or would i have to remove pulse?
[09:40] <Peace-> Machtin: well you could kill pulse
[09:40] <Peace-> the sudo alsa force-reload
[09:40] <Peace-> then
[09:46] <Machtin> still no sound
[09:56] <andriyko> hello. I'm running kubuntu 11.04(2.6.38-11-generic kernel) on hp6720s laptop. There is no sound when using laptop's speakers, but there is sound when using headphones via jack. Could you please help me?
[10:08] <andriyko> !support | andriyko
[10:36] <dancapp> Can anyone tell me how to delete updates from the update-list in KPackageKit? I've got 3 updates which fail every time I try and action them, but they appear on the list every time it gets refreshed.
[10:50] <kopp> hello
[10:50] <kopp> i need help
[10:51] <kopp> i have kubuntu 10.10 trinity desktop
[10:51] <kopp> compiz effects won't work!
[10:53] <kopp> anybody help me?
[10:58] <Peace-> kopp:
[10:59] <Peace-> ah trinity
[10:59] <kopp> yes trinity
[10:59] <Peace-> well... we don't support trinity version
[10:59] <kopp> trinity don't have irc :/
[10:59] <kopp> channel
[10:59] <Peace-> kde is kde4 now
[10:59] <Peace-> kde3 is dead
[11:00] <kopp> rip
[11:00] <Peace-> btw you should check if you have 3d
[11:00] <ghettoblaster> got a question bout oneiric, can i ask it here, or is there another forum
[11:00] <kopp> Peace-: i have 185 nvidia driver
[11:00] <Peace-> you should ask into #ubuntu+1 but... you will not answered because the most use unity in that channel
[11:00] <kopp> compiz run
[11:01] <Peace-> ghettoblaster: you should ask into #ubuntu+1 but... you will not answered because the most use unity in that channel
[11:01] <kopp> but effect's don't works
[11:01] <Peace-> so...  you could ask here
[11:01] <ghettoblaster> ty Peace ill try ;)
[11:02] <kopp> and have a question
[11:03] <kopp> the testing version of (K)Ubuntu will damage my computer?
[11:03] <Peace-> it could
[11:03] <Peace-> kopp: the stable version is 11.04
[11:03] <Peace-> testing 11.10
[11:03] <Peace-> users can install 11.04 , tester expert user can install 11.10 too
[11:03] <kopp> an example: karnel have an overclocking bug and damage my computer. It is possible?
[11:04] <kopp> *kernel
[11:04] <Peace-> kopp: with alpha software you can demage your computer yes
[11:04] <kopp> ok
[11:04] <kopp> i wait for beta
[11:04] <Peace-> even with beta
[11:04] <Peace-> and even with rc
[11:04] <Peace-> you need to wait for the release
[11:04] <kopp> ok
[11:05] <kopp> Peace-: thanks for help
[11:06] <Peace-> kopp: btw why you are using trinity
[11:06] <Peace-> kde3 has nothing more than kde4
[11:06] <kopp> i have 3 os
[11:06] <Peace-> kde4 uses less resources
[11:07] <kopp> ubuntu natty kubuntu natty kubuntu maverick whit trinity
[11:07] <kopp> i like kde3
[11:07] <kopp> have bette compatible whit gtk apps
[11:07] <Peace-> kopp: nope man
[11:08] <Peace-> with the new theme for gtk now gtk applications looks like qt
[11:09] <Peace-> kopp: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A3bDTdsdVYQ/TO-SXmRmjuI/AAAAAAAAAiM/JpRi9tHCk98/s1600/gedit.png
[11:09] <kopp> hm
[11:09] <kopp> in my pc uses other gtk theme
[11:10] <kopp> whit solid titlebar
[11:10] <Peace-> bad theme then..
[11:11] <kopp> kubuntu why not use oxygen by default on gtk apps?
[11:11] <Peace-> kopp: oxygen-gtk
[11:11] <Peace-> kubuntu uses oxygen-gtk
[11:11] <Peace-> that is the best
[11:11] <Peace-> look at gimp on my dekstop
[11:11] <kopp> i download
[11:12] <kopp> but i like still kde3
[11:12] <kopp> because i like the old konsole more
[11:13] <Peace-> well do as you wish
[11:14] <Peace-> kopp: thi si my desktop http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/07/plasma-desktopoC1490.jpg
[11:15] <kopp> when i drop a folder to the konsole on kde3
[11:16] <kopp> i can chose cd, paste, mv, ln, cp
[11:17] <kopp> and i like more konqueror 3.5 filemanager than 4
[11:17] <Peace-> bah
[11:17] <Peace-> i have used kde 3 too
[11:17] <Peace-> there are no reason to keep kde3
[11:17] <kopp> i keep it
[11:17] <Peace-> ok
[11:18] <kopp> and rtinity Enterprise Edition [1 DVD] have all kde3 programs whit firefox, thunderbird
[11:19] <kopp> have devel kde3 apps
[11:19] <kopp> have all
[11:19] <kopp> have Kdevelop
[11:19] <kopp> all education apps
[11:20] <kopp> ALL QT3 APPS
[11:20] <kopp> i can't wait natty whit trinity
[11:26] <kopp> Peace-: what distro you have?
[11:26] <Peace-> 11.04
[11:26] <Peace-> with kde 4.7
[11:29] <kopp> i restart and chose kde4
[11:33] <_-[Kopp]-_> hello
[11:34] <_-[Kopp]-_> Peace-: nvidia geforce 8600 gt is enough good for kwin 4?
[11:36] <_-[Kopp]-_> Nvidia geforce 8600 gt is enough good for kwin 4?
[11:42] <Peace-> _-[Kopp]-_: i have intel 945gm
[11:42] <Peace-> 128 of memory
[11:42] <_-[Kopp]-_> i have 700 mb video memory
[11:45] <yofel> _-[Kopp]-_: 8600gt is plenty, I've had it running on a 6600
[11:46] <_-[Kopp]-_> thanks for help
[11:47] <_-[Kopp]-_> i find this:http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=136216
[11:47] <_-[Kopp]-_> and i hate source because need devel packages
[11:47] <_-[Kopp]-_> i need deb, or apt
[11:58] <_-[Kopp]-_> Peace-: need deb package for kubuntu oxygen-gtk
[12:00] <Peace-> search on muon or kpackagekit
[12:00] <Peace-> it's on the repository
[12:02] <_-[Kopp]-_> Peace-: se this image: http://noob.hu/2011/08/07/01.jpeg
[12:03] <Peace-> you have already installed it
[12:03] <Peace-> it's gtk2-oxygen
[12:03] <Peace-> engines
[12:03] <_-[Kopp]-_> but i need the theme
[12:04] <Peace-> kid learn a bit of kde...
[12:04] <Peace-> i have not time to feed you right now
[12:04] <_-[Kopp]-_> right
[12:06] <_-[Kopp]-_> Peace-: i need to compile the theme?
[12:31] <yofel> _-[Kopp]-_: go to kpackagekit, install gtk2-engines-oxygen
[12:31] <Peace-> yofel: he has that
[12:31] <Peace-> already installed
[12:31] <_-[Kopp]-_> i installed
[12:31] <_-[Kopp]-_> but i need the theme
[12:31] <_-[Kopp]-_> the oxygen-gtk theme
[12:31] <yofel> true, but then I'm not sure what his problem is
[12:32] <yofel> *sigh*
[12:32] <_-[Kopp]-_> thanks
[12:32] <_-[Kopp]-_> works
[12:32] <yofel> _-[Kopp]-_: kopp, oxygen-gtk is an engine that renders the default KDE theme on gtk
[12:32] <_-[Kopp]-_> i go to system precenses and see oxygen gtk theme
[12:33] <_-[Kopp]-_> i added this repo: https://launchpad.net/~msb/+archive/testing
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:39] <_-[Kopp]-_> BluesKaj: hejhej! :D
[14:52] <tonymc> anyone had success with running KDE's text-to-speech?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hi  _-[Kopp]-_
[14:54] <_-[Kopp]-_> BluesKaj: hi
[14:54] <_-[Kopp]-_> tonymc: i don't try it because i have eyes
[14:55] <ArchangelSe7en> Sam ?
[14:55] <tonymc> i have eyes too, i just want it to work
[15:00] <_-[Kopp]-_> tonymc: i can't help you
[15:00] <_-[Kopp]-_> sorry
[15:01] <tonymc> well you can just try it, see if it works - that way at least i know that it doesn't work only on my system
[15:01] <tonymc> it's there in KDE system settings under accessibility
[15:01] <ArchangelSe7en> brb
[15:54] <reno__> hello there!
[15:54] <reno__> who can help me with something?
[15:55] <Linkmaster> !anyone | reno__
[15:55] <Linkmaster> :D
[15:56] <reno__> i wanna install a win game on my kubuntu and i don't know commands to run a iso file....
[15:57] <Linkmaster> I used to know this one, did it quite a few times awhile ago, give me a second
[15:59] <Linkmaster> Its faily depedant on where you want to mount it, but   sudo mkdir /media/iso sudo modprobe loop sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop     is what your looking for
[15:59] <reno__> i want only to open that iso and install
[16:00] <Linkmaster> It can be shortened to "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso iso9660 -o loop" but the mounting directory makes life easier
[16:01] <Linkmaster> I did this when trying to install neverwinternights, so from my experience, the best way to go about what you want is to "sudo mkdir /mnt/isoname" then "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /mnt/isoname is9660 -o loop" to have it mount in the  /mnt directory. Once thats done, using wine or whatever, you can select the installation .exe
[16:02] <reno__> let me try that
[16:07] <reno__> found in mnt directory only game folder but empty
[16:08] <reno__> you know if i can run installed games using wine?
[16:18] <Linkmaster> Interesting, nothing came up?
[16:21] <reno__> fount some scripts
[16:21] <reno__> with mount and unmount
[16:22] <reno__> says to copy in /bin but dont works
[16:22] <reno__> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[17:15] <marvin034> nabend allerseits
[17:15] <marvin034> jemand anwesend der mir freundlicher weise bei einem wlan problem helfen kann?
[17:16] <Ddpbf> !de
[17:16] <marvin034> danke
[17:33] <mac_> Am new to Kubuntu but 4 years experience with Ubuntu.  Using Ver 11.04 of Ubuntu, I notice that DigiKam lost its main taskbar but after a restart the taskbar would sometimes appear.  Recently I found the same problem with Kubuntu.  Does anyone know what might be causing the problem and offer a solution?
[18:31] <raevin> anyone good w/ iptables?
[18:31] <raevin> The man page for it doesntdo me justice on what I want/need to acoomplish
[18:34] <vikapi> raevin: wat do u want to accomplish..
[18:35] <raevin> vikapi: I have all my rules in the NAT table right now, because I need the pre-routing feature...however, I want to have a drop rule as well at the end of it all, but if I do iptables -A INPUT -j DROP, it filters before my NAT rules can come into effect
[18:35] <raevin> should i do iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport <public port> -j ACCEPT too before the drop?
[18:38] <raevin> well, i did that and it's not working either o.o
[18:47] <Pi^2> Hi, been experiencing this weird problem...after a few days of everything running smoothly, my system will refuse to start any new processes...anything that I attempt to run simply appears in the taskbar as loading, disappears and never starts
[18:48] <Pi^2> it's happened a few times, the only way to correct being restart, just happened right now (i currently can't start anything, can't even open a Konsole to see what's up)
[18:48] <raevin> Pi^2: what does sysctl fs.file-max return?
[18:49] <Pi^2> fs.file-max = 384044
[18:49] <Pi^2> and i just checked my ps x output via xchat's /exec command...the processes im attempting to start are indeed "running", but not displaying on the GUI
[18:49] <raevin> do sysctl fs.file-max=790759 && sysctl -p
[18:49] <raevin> might have to be root
[18:50] <raevin> samething happened my server a few times, the file descriptor/handles are set to a low amount
[18:50] <Pi^2> k, sec
[18:50] <raevin> yup
[18:52] <Pi^2> hm, this did not appear to resolve the issue
[18:53] <Pi^2> or must i restart my xsession?
[18:53] <raevin> does it ressolve after you restart your computer?  you can try, doesn't hurt lol
[18:54] <raevin> i did this on a headless machine so i can't say if x could cause it, but it owuldn't surprise me
[18:54] <Pi^2> well, the problem resolves when I restart, but it always comes back after a few days
[18:54] <Pi^2> ex, my uptime is about 6 days, which started when I had to reboot to fix the issue the last time around ^
[18:55] <raevin> sounds like a file descriptor issue, but i thought the changes took effect immediately.  does it happen still if you just log out n log back in?
[18:55] <Pi^2> i'll find out (about to disconnect)
[18:55] <raevin> k
[18:57] <Pi^2> yea , relogging fixed the issue
[18:58] <raevin> maybe had to relog in for the sysctl settings to take effect o.o
[18:58] <raevin> glad it's fixed now :)
[18:58] <Pi^2> :)
[18:58] <Pi^2> ty
[18:58] <gadmin> hi
[18:58] <raevin> np Pi^2 :D
[18:58] <raevin> hey gadmin
[19:01] <gadmin> i have problem
[19:01] <gadmin> with my ubuntu
[19:01] <gadmin> can somebody help me
[19:01] <Linkmaster> Why don't you tell us
[19:02] <Linkmaster> We can't help if we don't know anything thats wrong
[19:02] <Linkmaster> Though, if its ubuntu, you should try #ubuntu
[19:02] <gadmin> i can't  open my  csharp applications with mono
[19:03] <gadmin> mono can open net framework based applications  and  i can't  i have kubuntu
[19:08] <rectec794613> what directory are the plasma themes at?
[19:09] <reno__> hi! how i can mount an iso to install a application, i using kubuntu
[19:12] <raevin> reno__: sudo mkdir /media/iso && sudo mount -o loop /<path to iso> /media/iso
[19:12] <raevin> not sure if there's a KDE-specific or GUI way, but that's the CLI way
[19:12] <reno__> count where i have isofile?
[19:13] <raevin> reno__: what do you mean?
[19:13] <reno__> i have theat iso file in home/downloads/file.iso
[19:13] <raevin> if the iso is at /storage/isos/super.iso, then the command would be mkdir /media/iso && sudo -o loop /storage/isos/super.iso /media/iso
[19:15] <reno__> clear
[19:17] <rectec794613> anybody know the answer to my question?
[19:18] <rectec794613> what directory are the plasma themes at?
[19:18] <raevin> rectec794613: have you tried doing a grep -r -H "<theme name>" /usr for a specific theme to see whre its at?
[19:21] <rectec794613> doesnt show. my friend helped me with a theme not working the other day and he told me where the themes are but i dont remember now that the problem happened again
[19:21] <rectec794613> he told me where to go to delete the theme files
[19:23] <rectec794613> raevin: do you know where they are?
[19:25] <raevin> rectec794613: sadly no, i'd only assume they're either in /usr or your home directory somewhere
[19:28] <rectec794613> ok i'll do some digging around and tell you if i find it
[19:28] <Snowhog> rectec794613: If you are looking for the Desktop Themes directory, they are at /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme (unless a downloaded theme was installed, in which case it will be in your user home directory (hidden))
[19:30] <Snowhog> rectec794613: If a downloaded/installed Desktop Theme, then look in ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme
[19:30] <rectec794613> oh ok
[19:30] <rectec794613> looks like it might work
[19:31] <rectec794613> yeah i think that's it
[19:31] <rectec794613> Snowhog: thanks
[19:37] <rectec794613> Snowhog: is the desktoptheme directory sopposed to be owned by root?
[19:37] <Snowhog> rectec794613: If you are referring to the one in your user home directory, no. In /usr/share/..., yes.
[19:41] <rectec794613> Snowhog: is there a reason why the changes made (installing/uninstalling themes) in the "Get Hot New Stuff" program don't make a difference in ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme?
[19:43] <Snowhog> rectec794613: IIUC, when you download/install new Themes from "Get Hot New Stuff", they are installed in the users home directory.
[19:43] <rectec794613> doesnt make a difference with me unless i manually delete the theme folder
[19:43] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Are you saying that when you did so (downloaded/installed), that the resulting theme is showing as owned by root?
[19:44] <rectec794613> no my home folder's desktoptheme directory is owned by me; i was looking at the wrong one before
[19:46] <rectec794613> Snowhog: sorry forgot to add ur name to my post
[19:48] <rectec794613> Snowhog: wow hold on. got another problem. my entire desktop changed back to the way it was a week ago
[19:48] <rectec794613> Snowhog: again
[19:49] <rectec794613> i need somebody to help me through this
[19:49] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Well, did you just delete a theme directory?
[19:50] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no
[19:50] <rectec794613> Snowhog: left everything as it was
[19:50] <Snowhog> rectec794613: And it just 'magically' changed while you were looking at it??
[19:50] <rectec794613> Snowhog: but my wallpaper, widgets, icons, theme, and more are changed
[19:50] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah im not kidding
[19:51] <rectec794613> Snowhog: it happened once before
[19:51] <Snowhog> rectec794613: What did you do just before it happened?
[19:51] <rectec794613> Snowhog: switched desktops
[19:51] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Do you have separate activities for desktops set?
[19:52] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no but i use compiz
[19:52] <Snowhog> rectec794613: So, if you switch back to the previous desktop, does it all look okay on that one?
[19:53] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no all four of them are like that. ok well i can change it back but i need to know how to prevent this, and i think it has something to do with the themes
[19:54] <rectec794613> Snowhog: lemme restart and i'll come back
[19:57] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok back
[19:57] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i think i know why
[19:58] <rectec794613> Snowhog: are the wallpaper and widgets, etc all stored in the desktoptheme's theme folder?
[20:00] <rectec794613> Snowhog: side problem: how come if i try to open the trash it says "Malformed URL trash:/"
[20:00] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Desktop Themes come with their own color scheme and widgets. I don't believe they come with their own wallpaper.
[20:01] <rectec794613> Snowhog: what if you change the wallpaper while using the theme?
[20:02] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I don't believe so. Wallpaper selection is not specifically part of a Desktop Theme package.
[20:04] <rectec794613> Snowhog: well gimme a second gonna restart again
[20:07] <rectec794613> Snowhog: hm well if you dont have a solution i guess i'll just change everything back, do a backup and hope for the best
[20:07] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I don't use Compiz, as Kwin works just fine for my needs.
[20:08] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah i just dont wanna reconfigure everything
[20:14] <rectec794613> Snowhog: wait lol
[20:14] <rectec794613> Snowhog: omg i cant believe this
[20:15] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i was pressing super+tab because its the hotkey to my window switcher
[20:15] <rectec794613> Snowhog: turns out its also used to switch desktop styles
[20:16] <rectec794613> Snowhog: unbelievable
[20:16] <rectec794613> Snowhog: all this trouble over nothing
[20:17] <Snowhog> rectec794613: A keyboard shortcut that controls two actions!? I didn't think that was possible.
[20:17] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no sometimes they take over eachother; sometimes the compiz hotkey works, sometimes its the kde
[20:18] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Simple fix then. Reconfigure either one so that the keyboard shortcut key combo is different.
[20:19] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah thats a huge load off my shoulders (no pun intended) i thought i had a serious problem there
[20:22] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok so anything i can do about the malformed url error when opening the trash?
[20:23] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Delete the Trash widget and readd it. See if it works then.
[20:24] <rectec794613> Snowhog: im having the problem with the kickoff shortcut under "Computer"
[20:24] <Sa[i]nT> I come from windows and I'm used to the WinSDK, where do I look to make applications in kubuntu? Not QT if at all.
[20:25] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Clarify please?
[20:25] <xzased> Hi. I am using dolphin to sftp into one of my servers. I added it as a network folder, but it always prompts me 3 times for my password, even when 'save password' is checked. Is there a way to make dolphin use kwallet or something similart so it doesn't ask me for the password again?
[20:27] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Okay, understand. You are trying to open Trash via K > Computer > Trash and it won't let you, saying malformed URL
[20:27] <rectec794613> Snowhog: exactly
[20:28] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Can you open the Trash from the Trash widget (either on your Panel or the Desktop, assuming it's in one of those locations)?
[20:29] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no, the only way i can is by opening dolphin and going to it through the places menu
[20:30] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Which Desktop Theme are you using, and what version of Kubuntu and KDE?
[20:31] <rectec794613> Snowhog: H2O, Kubuntu 11.04, KDE 4.6.2
[20:33] <Snowhog> rectec794613: If you change Desktop Themes, to Oxygen say, does the problem persist - can you access the Trash via K > Computer > Trash?
[20:33] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah same problem
[20:34] <rectec794613> Snowhog: if its any problem with you i dont need to access trash that way *that bad*
[20:35] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Has this been a problem 'always' for you, or can you remember when it first became a problem?
[20:36] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i think its always been like this. i've had problems from the start using this on my new pc, and have been through several reinstallations
[20:37] <rectec794613> Snowhog: whats KIOExec? should i reinstall it?
[20:39] <Snowhog> rectec794613: You might want to concider upgrading to KDE 4.6.4 (you are behind with your 4.6.2 release).
[20:42] <rectec794613> whenever i check for updates it gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/5DjT6EuZ  I'm using Muon
[20:42] <WFeather> Need help getting a ATI 6870 and nVidia GTX 260 to both work with Kubuntu 11.04, want to run 2 monitors on the 6870(in DVI already done)
[20:42] <WFeather> plus one on DVI on the 260
[20:42] <rectec794613> sorry i mean
[20:42] <rectec794613> Snowhog: whenever i check for updates it gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/5DjT6EuZ I'm using Muon
[20:46] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Change to a different Server in Muon > Settings > Configure Software Sources > Kubuntu Software > Download from (I use Server for the United States)
[20:47] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah thats what im using. should i just delete those repos?
[20:48] <rectec794613> Snowhog: or uncheck?
[20:56] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Those entries are written incorrectly.
[20:57] <Snowhog> rectec794613: What ppa's from launchpad had you tried to add?
[20:58] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i havent added those
[20:59] <rectec794613> Snowhog: cant check for updates and the only one i have to do is for wine
[20:59] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Well, someone did, as ppa repositories are not included in a Kubuntu installation.
[21:00] <rectec794613> Snowhog: so what should i do?
[21:00] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I would delete them myself - they don't work as written anyway.
[21:01] <rectec794613> Snowhog: can i do that from a terminal? i dont see them listed in the software sources
[21:02] <Snowhog> rectec794613: If you want to upgrade to KDE 4.6.4 (recommended IMO), you do so by closing Muon (if it's running) and open a console and type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa followed by sudo apt-get update and then sudo apg-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok hopefully muon will be better once it finally rolls around as the official package manager and installer of kubuntu
[21:03] <Snowhog> rectec794613: As to deleting those malformed ppa entries, open Muon and go to Software Sources and locate the entries there and delete them.
[21:04] <rectec794613> Snowhog: as i said before, i cant find the exact same repo's as the error lists. what should i look for?
[21:06] <rectec794613> Snowhog: gonna backup my home folder then do the upgrade
[21:06] <Snowhog> rectec794613: In Software Sources click on the Other Software tab and look for the ones with ppa in them
[21:08] <rectec794613> Snowhog: should i delete all the ppa's? thats like 3/4ths of the list
[21:08] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Take a screenshot and post to pastebin so I can look at what you have.
[21:12] <rectec794613> what site do i use for pics?
[21:12] <Snowhog> rectec794613:  http://pastebin.com like you did earlier
[21:13] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Hmm. If pastebin won't allow images to be posted, then post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[21:14] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i just dont know how to do it on pastebin
[21:15] <rectec794613> Snowhog: can i just send it please?
[21:15] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Sure.
[21:19] <rectec794613> Snowhog: not getting it?
[21:23] <cher> kubuntu's version of dmidecode is broken or not uptodate. It reports "<OUT OF SPEC>" for DDR3 SO-DIMMs.
[21:43] <IdleOne> Where do I change/set my default browser again?
[21:45] <rectec794613> IdleOne: System Settings>Default Applications>Web Browser
[21:47] <IdleOne> rectec794613: thank you :)
[21:47] <IdleOne> simple solutions evade me :/
[21:48] <rectec794613> IdleOne: No problem
[22:10] <erinaceus> Evening, I have a problem concerning apt-get i was installing drivers for kubuntu and it got stucked so i forced the process to stop and the lock remained, after deleting it manually i got an error mesage that i interrupted apt-get and i had to run "dpkg --configure -a" now i get the following output: http://paste.kde.org/107335/ anyone can help me?
[22:18] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, can I change the colors of the popup system notification for notices from Amarok?
[22:19] <raevin> erinaceus: can you do this? sudo apt-get update -f
[22:19] <raevin> or -f update, forgot which way it goes
[22:20] <LINKSWORD2> I believe it's update -f
[22:20] <erinaceus> raevin: nope, produces the same error message
[22:20] <LINKSWORD2> I haven't used that command in a while. xD
[22:22] <raevin> erinaceus: what does cat /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0002 give?
[22:22] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: lol, me neither, surprised i even remembered it exists lol
[22:23] <LINKSWORD2> I need to change the colors of the popup system notifications.. And if I can, set specific colors for specific notices.
[22:24] <erinaceus> raevin: just 512 lines saying "#padding" and an empty one at the end
[22:24] <raevin> erinaceus: try deleting the file
[22:25] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1318289
[22:25] <raevin> dunno if it'll work, but it looks like it will
[22:26] <erinaceus> raeving: Seems to have worked, sry to have bothered u when the solution was this obvious but i just reinstalled kubuntu after crashing it by attempting something like that :D So i hesitated, thx
[22:26] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: otherwise, look here: http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual/ConfiguringAmarok
[22:26] <raevin> erinaceus: it's no prob :)  better to ask than to have abroken system, lol.
[22:27] <erinaceus> raeving: Yeah, that's what i thought too
[22:27] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok its finished
[22:28] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Wow! You must have a very good Broadband connection. Have you rebooted (did it require you to) yet?
[22:28] <rectec794613> Snowhog: haha well its just basic cable. ok i'll go reboot, wish me luck
[22:29] <rectec794613> Snowhog: didnt require me to, but now i think the update notifier's working, just no updates listed
[22:30] <rectec794613> Snowhog: do it anyway?
[22:30] <Snowhog> rectec794613: And are you now running KDE 4.6.4 (About > KDE)
[22:31] <rectec794613> Snowhog: still says 4.6.2, a restart couldnt hurt
[22:31] <LINKSWORD2> Looks like I need to update / upgrade Amarok.
[22:32] <LINKSWORD2> Terminal isn't accepting my command, although I may be entering it incorrectly...
[22:32] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: what does the cli give you?
[22:33] <LINKSWORD2> .... Excuse me? CLI?
[22:34] <raevin> the command prompt/terminal
[22:34] <raevin> what command ar eyou running and what happens when u do
[22:34] <Snowhog> rectec794613: In Software Sources > Updates tab, check Important and Recommended updates and under Release upgrade, select Normal Releases
[22:34] <LINKSWORD2> Snowhog: You just said what I needed. Thanks.
[22:35] <rectec794613> lol
[22:36] <LINKSWORD2> ... Maybe not.
[22:36] <rectec794613> Snowhog: it already was like that
[22:36] <LINKSWORD2> Anyways, raevin... sudo apt-get install amarok -update
[22:36] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Then I'd shutdown and reboot.
[22:37] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok brb
[22:37] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: what happens when you do that command?
[22:38] <LINKSWORD2> "Not found" lol
[22:38] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: well, it was also written in 2009, lol.  here, follow this: http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual/ConfiguringAmarok#Notifications
[22:38] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: sorry, didn't see that until i sent you the ubuntu link
[22:40] <LINKSWORD2> raevin: What I want is to change the color of the SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
[22:40] <LINKSWORD2> No, I'm not shouting. I'm emphasizing what I want to change.
[22:41] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok it updated to 4.6.5, and for some reason, my Google background image changed
[22:42] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: sorry, guess i mis-understood since you mentioned amarok in your original question/support msg o.o
[22:42] <Snowhog> rectec794613: KDE 4.6.5 is the latest 'stable' version - it's what I'm using. Good job.
[22:42] <LINKSWORD2> No prob.
[22:43] <LINKSWORD2> If it's possible to change the color of the system notification for specific application related notices, that's what I want to do...
[22:43] <LINKSWORD2> Thus why I mentioned Amarok.
[22:45] <bobweaver> !remaster
[22:53] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i think my lists are the same. i still keep getting the 404 error
[22:55] <Snowhog> rectec794613: On the same to lists - boxee and ppa.launchpad?
[22:55] <Snowhog> *two
[22:57] <rectec794613> Snowhog: exactly the same as last time: http://pastebin.com/5DjT6EuZ
[22:59] <rectec794613> Snowhog: got a backup of sources.list.d. gonna sudo rm the respective repos
[23:05] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok well all i could delete in the sources.list.d folder was boxee, that fixed the 404 on *that*, however the ppa's are still getting 404s and i cant find them in the sources.list.d folder
[23:06] <rectec794613> Snowhog: trying sources.list
[23:07] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no luck
[23:09] <Snowhog> rectec794613: You won't find it in that file. The one that is producing the 404 is going to be /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-ppa-natty.list  You can verify that by commenting (unchecking) it in Software Sources > Other Software tab.
[23:09] <david> hello all, just looking for advice
[23:10] <Guest51948> I am trying to find a utility of application that allows me to record a macro or actions via GUI
[23:12] <LINKSWORD2> !system notification
[23:13] <LINKSWORD2> Guest51948: Let me look for something. I think I know what I can recommend...
[23:17] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok fixed it
[23:18] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i'll explain how
[23:19] <rectec794613> Snowhog: i did a sudo apt-get update from the terminal. it gave me errors different from the ones listed in muon. i cd'd to sources.list.d and sudo rm'd their files
[23:19] <rectec794613> Snowhog:  updated again and it was fixed
[23:20] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Do you still have the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-ppa-natty.list file?
[23:21] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no i deleted it and it didnt solve any problems, should i restore it?
[23:22] <Snowhog> rectec794613: Well, it's the repository file that upgraded you to KDE 4.6.5, so without it, you'll not be able to get updates to your KDE 4.6.5 files you just upgraded to.
[23:22] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok
[23:25] <rectec794613> Snowhog: ok i copied it back
[23:25] <rectec794613> Snowhog: thanks for ur help
[23:27] <Snowhog> rectec794613: After copying it back, and in a console, redo the update command: sudo apt-get update and see if you still get the 404 error. I'd be curious.
[23:29] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah i already did
[23:30] <rectec794613> Snowhog: no errors in term. no errors in muon
[23:30] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I use Muon, but not for package management. I always do my installs/removals/purges and updates/dist-upgrades from the console.
[23:30] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[23:30] <LINKSWORD2> raevin, you still here?
[23:31] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I'm glad that you were able to get that small niggle resolved.
[23:31] <rectec794613> Snowhog: would i seem more pro if i did it like that?
[23:31] <raevin> LINKSWORD2: yearh, sorry, gf's over so kinda afk a bit
[23:33] <Snowhog> rectec794613: I choose to do it from the console with sudo apt-get because I like the user control it provides. I have nothing against Muon, and installed it back when it was first announced. I just prefer using the command line. I use Muon for 'finding' packages I might want to use.
[23:33] <LINKSWORD2> claydoh: I think I need your help, mate.
[23:33] <rectec794613> Snowhog: yeah seems like apt-get can be faster. at least it seems like it is when words are whizzing past
[23:34] <claydoh> LINKSWORD2:  yes?
[23:34] <LINKSWORD2> I'm missing some kind of script or plugin from the Notification Manager in System Settings.
[23:35] <LINKSWORD2> .... I've also forgotten how to find images captured with KSnapshot.
[23:37] <claydoh> LINKSWORD2: images usually save to where you tell it to, though the default is /Documents iirc
[23:37] <rectec794613> well later guys
[23:38] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[23:38] <claydoh> ....or is it /Desktop
[23:39] <claydoh> LINKSWORD2: as to notifications, more info needed
[23:39] <LINKSWORD2> Trying to upload an image. imagebin is being a pain in the neck.
[23:39] <LINKSWORD2> There we go.... http://imagebin.org/166862
[23:44] <claydoh> which kde version? kcm_knotify is in kdebase-runtime in 4.6 and earlier, kde-runtime in 4.7
[23:45] <LINKSWORD2> KDE 4.7.
[23:47] <claydoh> it is part of kde-runtime, do you have
[23:47] <claydoh> /usr/lib/kde4/kcm_knotify.so
[23:47] <LINKSWORD2> .... Huh?
[23:47] <claydoh> the image you have gives the error that kcm_knotify is missing
[23:47] <LINKSWORD2> Clay, please explain more... And you may query if you need.
[23:47] <claydoh> do you have the file /usr/lib/kde4/kcm_knotify.so
[23:48] <LINKSWORD2> I honestly don't know...
[23:48] <claydoh> well, take a looksee :P
[23:48] <LINKSWORD2> How might I find that?
[23:49] <claydoh> use a file manager,  dolphin
[23:51] <LINKSWORD2> No, it doesn't appear to be there.
[23:52] <claydoh> my only suggestion on this is to try reinstalling the package kde-runtime, which will reinstall that file if it is missing
[23:52] <LINKSWORD2> sudo apt-get install kde-runtime ???
[23:52] <claydoh> sure, or use a package manager of your choice.
[23:53] <claydoh> may have to add ''--reinstall'' if it already installed
[23:54] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I suppose I may have to find out....
[23:56] <LINKSWORD2> OK, good.
[23:56] <LINKSWORD2> Now, claydoh if you don't mind, I have an additional question....
[23:57] <claydoh> LINKSWORD2: shoot
[23:57] <LINKSWORD2> Bang!
[23:57] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[23:57] <LINKSWORD2> I would like to change the colors of the system notifications, and if possible, do so for notices from specific programs, like Amarok.
[23:58] <claydoh> thats all in whatever plasma theme you use iirc
[23:58] <LINKSWORD2> Uh.... ????
[23:59] <claydoh> I don't know a way to change just the notifications