[00:14] my brother touched my computer yesturday is there a way i can check what he did [00:14] Dust for Prints [02:37] is it possible to customize a cpu control fid-vid table, taking effect at boot time, so as to avoid needing a custom configured kernel? certain options are not modularized in a stock kernel, creating a major nuisance for phc [02:37] any clues what that means [02:52] there are only about 60 or so drupal channels === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [03:25] theadmin, but it logs in as root by default [03:25] augh [04:39] i don't see this attempt at hijacking the topic to end well. [04:39] elky: What do you have against sports teams :( [04:40] nothing. he didn't notice at all [04:40] 'sokay, we can be more persuasive if need be [04:40] yeah, but by "not notice" i mean "ignored". [04:46] Anyone care to guess what seven_six_two is on about? [04:46] I already did. They're on strike 2.5. [06:28] oh man [09:20] Um, I apologize for that mess in #ubuntu I caused. Happens to me. [09:21] I don't really respect Ubuntu as a distribution, but nonetheless I do respect the community. [09:21] I promise this will never happen again, can I get the ban off? [09:22] *poke* [09:22] theadmin: It wasn't very constructive. [09:22] theadmin: But OK, done. [09:22] jpds: I do agree, I'm sometimes a hatemachine :/ [09:22] jpds: Just tell me to stop when I start messing [09:23] theadmin: stop. :) [09:23] IdleOne: xD Roger that [09:24] jpds: I've never even seen you on #ubuntu before though, let alone know you're an op... [09:24] jpds: xD [09:37] Hello! [09:37] ikonia: What is wrong ? [09:37] Oh sorry, i noticed my mistake [09:37] LarsT: you're banned multiple tims from the ubuntu channels as your constantly a problem, [09:37] i wanted to write in ubuntu+1 not in ubntu [09:37] yet you didn't [09:37] so you got removed [09:37] yes it was the wrong channel right [09:37] LarsT: I think it's best if you stop using the ubuntu channels to be honest [09:37] look in ubuntu+1 i asked there [09:38] look - I removed you [09:38] and that is the big fault ? [09:38] without warning ?= [09:38] LarsT: how many times have people had to speak to you [09:38] removing is a warning [09:38] no no [09:38] how many times have you been banned [09:38] jp_Hranice: can we help you ? [09:38] only becauses i asked wrong channel [09:38] this is not a ban! [09:38] Who will help me ? [09:39] jp_Hranice: with what ? [09:39] LarsT: I've even had to write a letter to your ISP [09:39] LarsT: how many times have you been banned ? [09:39] yesterday i talked to council user [09:39] LarsT: no - that's not what I asked [09:39] he said, its okay to come back [09:39] LarsT: answer the question [09:39] hold on guys [09:39] and i will ask again [09:39] LarsT: how many times have we had to ban you / speak to you about your behaviour [09:39] jp_Hranice, do you need help here? [09:39] jp_Hranice: what kind of help are you in need of? [09:40] I posible found bug. I wrote about it at #ubuntu+1 [09:40] Myritti: Only because i asked wrong channel i am banned !!! [09:40] LarsT: - I am speaking to you about this, follow the conversation I am saying to you [09:40] jp_Hranice: and? [09:40] jp_Hranice: Please report bugs to launchpad.net [09:41] jp_Hranice: could you also please part this channel is it not a support channel thank you. [09:41] s/is it/it is/ [09:41] Myrtti: ChanServ boot LarsT [09:42] jp_Hranice: how is that relevant to you finding a bug and reporting it at #ubuntu+1? [09:42] ikonia: okay what is ? [09:42] Myrtti: Yes. And I spoke LarsT [09:43] LarsT: please hold on for a moment [09:43] ok [09:43] ikonia: all yours [09:43] LarsT: sorry, I didn't want jp_Hranice interupting the conversation [09:43] ikonia: in my openion its wrong [09:44] LarsT: in my opinion you continuing to use the Ubuntu channels is wrong [09:44] ikonia: i did not do any fault [09:44] LarsT: I am fed up of people having to talk to you about how to ask questions, which channels to use, you are constantly a problem [09:44] i know that i must go in ubuntu+1! [09:44] but i fetched the wrong [09:44] LarsT: and yet you didn't [09:45] yes [09:45] but i noticed and stopped asking around [09:45] g [09:45] LarsT: the problem is, you've caused problems too many times, so now there is no more room for excuses [09:45] LarsT: you've used up all your excuses with your past lies [09:45] so now there is no space left for your excuses or reasons [09:45] no but i talked yesterday to council user [09:45] and he told me [09:45] its okay to come back, and as long as i respect warnings its okay [09:45] LarsT: you spoke to topyli yesterday, I've read what he told you [09:46] he told me, as long as i accept warnings [09:46] and i spoke to LjL [09:46] I'm sure you did [09:46] and he told the same [09:47] if you had told me "please go in ubuntu+1" and i would not stop, then i would accept the ban but, i noticed my mistake, said sorry, changed th channel [09:47] LarsT: that doesn't change the fact that you once again, ignored the topic of the channel [09:47] LarsT: you've been told many times [09:47] you know the channels topics/rules [09:47] okay maybe i get a last try [09:47] I've had enough of having to ask you [09:47] no - you've had your last try [09:47] okay then i will go to council [09:47] ok - please do so [09:47] ok [09:47] !appeals [09:47] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [09:48] LarsT: please leave this channel now and take it up with the council [09:48] ok [09:48] LarsT: I think it is best at this time for you to email the council and part this channel now. [09:51] where is toply [09:51] ah okay [09:51] not active at this time [09:52] * [LaDDDD] (57906a4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.144.106.76): p57906A4C.dip.t-dialin.net/87.144.106.76 - http:// [09:52] * [LaDDDD] #xubuntu [09:53] see how long before he starts there [09:54] he messaged me with that nick [09:54] Hello where can i find [09:54] council [09:54] !appeals | TorbenLa [09:54] TorbenLa: If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [09:54] yes i am in ubuntu-ops [09:54] Lars, Please don't start this crap again [09:54] TorbenLa: follow the process in the URL [09:54] i want to discuss it , i find it is unfair [09:55] TorbenLa: then follow the process [09:55] i already wrote to this mail [09:55] a week ago, no answer [09:55] TorbenLa: wait for an answer then [09:55] TorbenLa: or write another one [09:55] ok [09:55] ok [09:58] the -ru is factoid is fine. [09:58] i don't think i've ever seen such an email [09:58] I find no such mail either [09:58] topyli: what a surprise [09:58] bazhang: never had any complaint about that factoid before [09:58] known problem user tells lies [09:58] i went and looked just now. [09:58] had him in pm just now, but he changed nicks and i lost him [09:58] * ikonia falls over with shock [09:58] russian speakers read the cyrillic, dont care about the roman [09:59] IdleOne, just more odd comments from theadmin imo [09:59] Well I assume it is clear enough for Russian speakers to make out [10:00] what is thought to be the problem with !ru? [10:00] I'm not to worried about it [10:00] refuses to read the grub2 factoid, yet gives out advice clearly (in large bold font) against what the factoid says. [10:00] then says works for me with Arch! [10:00] LjL, someone got annoyed that it includes the "/join" string i think [10:00] LjL, there is not a problem with it [10:00] IdleOne: Then, replace "posetite" (visit) with "naberite" (type) [10:01] and [10:01] IdleOne: Can you remove that /join out of the latinization of the !ru factoid? It's senseless :D [10:01] I told him no [10:01] about the /join part [10:01] and Russian speakers never have a problem with it. [10:01] ^ [10:01] uhm it *should* say the same thing in the transliteration as it does in the russian, though... [10:02] it does [10:02] !ru [10:02] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [10:02] well except for that /join [10:02] I will transliterate if you wish [10:03] i can see it says the same thing, just the /join seems spurious [10:03] 100% consistent with the other /join ones [10:03] theadmin is way offtopic, right? [10:03] in which case it should be there in the cyrillic too, no? [10:03] it's helpful to have the /join [10:03] no [10:04] there is no /join equivalent in the ru irc clients etc [10:04] russians have their own clients? O.o [10:04] what a mess [10:05] the translation pack, of course they use the regular ubuntu ones [10:06] bazhang: anyway unless i'm mistaken "posetite" is "visit", so it doesn't make much sense to say "visit /join #ubuntu-ru", it should be *type* /join #ubuntu-ru i suspect [10:06] which would make it wrong for the other cyrillic version though, no? [10:07] elky: well we could make the two versions different i suppose, if there is a valid reason [10:07] really the main reason for the roman to be there is clients using KOI-8 [10:07] or otherwise not employing UTF-8 [10:08] in which case they are usually kb'd from -ru [10:09] which doesn't seem like a good idea, tell them to switch instead [10:09] they warn, the bot does actually, but after a string of it, the bot kicks them [10:10] well ok, still those using KOI-8 or whatever and being smart enough to avoid being kicked deserve being pointed to support [10:12] on an unrelated note, i'm leaving to the alps later today [10:12] i won't be able to access my home server from there [10:12] theadmin> IdleOne: What's that pseudo-XML, , must it be there? [10:12] get him on fixing the bot, stat [10:12] so if there is something i need to do about the bots running there, please tell me now [10:12] In ubottu, szal said: !ru is Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:13] !ru is Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:13] But ru already means something else! [10:13] !no !ru is Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:13] I know nothing about !ru yet, bazhang [10:13] argh [10:13] do without the ! in !ru [10:13] !no ru is Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:13] I'll remember that bazhang [10:13] !ru > theadmin [10:23] server uses su? [10:24] sudo, as in desktop version [10:24] bazhang: not on this server [10:24] so mr_daniel is doing that on his own accord [10:24] ie no need to not use sudo or sudo -i [10:25] exactly [10:32] discussion in #linux about sudo/not having root enabled "turns me off a distro that to me seems designed for kids" [10:38] then that proves how stupid they are that they are not able to disable the sudo based model [10:39] it's a tiny, tiny, thing. i don't know why it's a big deal to some. as if it restricts them somehow [10:40] because they think they're smarter than they are, usually [10:40] I can see why it's a big deal as it's a security model change, ubuntu took the lead on it (although gentoo tried something similar years ago) [10:40] then again, i always used sudo before ubuntu even existed so i obviously fail to mind [10:40] "I'm not dumb , I can use root" [10:40] if you're not dum, you'll know how to safley before root [10:40] dumb [10:40] yeah, just like my teacher at school [10:41] "sure go ahead and login as root to gdm" [10:41] and then people ask me why I quit the place [10:41] why? [10:41] ;) [10:41] must have been the food [10:41] yeah, it was definitely the food [10:41] mmh, or the toilets, not enough pink stuff [10:41] I don't have a problem with people logging in / using root, however the majority of new users don't understand the implications, so it's a good move [10:42] years ago we built our own tool, called "be" (to just temporarily elevate privileges) - it took about 2 years to recognize that "sudo" did exactly that [10:42] ikonia: I can understand logging in as root in console. But as root in gdm in Fedora 4 four or five years ago, when things genuinely broke if you logged in as root... [10:43] well, a teacher saying login as root is foolish as they should be teaching good practies and things such as the risks and implications [10:43] * Myrtti nods and sips tea [10:44] $ be root always resulted in "be careful!" [10:44] that said there are still issues with the sudo model on desktops such as the X11 apps, and the need for tools such as gksudo [10:47] the most common problem being that people often use sudo to launch X apps, and end up not owning their own files [10:48] yup [10:50] not sure how to improve that as sudo was never really meant for a graphical implication [10:58] THIS PROGRAM DOES TOO MUCH [11:25] theadmin called the ops in #ubuntu (blk) [11:28] the issue with owning files is fixed with the -H option to sudo, but that's not the main issue with sudo and X apps [11:30] X will, by default, not let apps ran by other uses use the session, which is why gksudo/kdesudo exist, they create a kind of cookie for the app to authenticate it [11:30] [11:48] wrtiii in #u is the one claimin "turns me off a distro that to me seems designed for kids" in ##linux earlier, but now decided to ask for help in #ubuntu anyway? [11:50] he's been crossposting for a long time about clonezilla and going on about various linux distros not working for him, even after being asked to find help with clonezilla forums etc [11:50] @btlogin [11:51] * popey clenches [11:52] :0 [11:52] the use of "virii" does this to me [11:52] html giving bogus advice too [11:52] and off topic as well [11:59] there is like 6-12 things to check for [11:59] oh COME ON [12:07] in pm: [12:07] wrtiii> I am guessing you take offence to people that do not appreciate sudo or something, lol [12:07] some are really clueless [12:46] is it idiot day? === CarlFK1 is now known as carlfk [13:27] no, it's just full moon [13:27] just like every day === carlfk is now known as CarlFK [13:37] theadmin [13:37] ? [13:39] once i have been banned from ubuntu irc ! admin will you please remove from that list [13:45] hello !!! [13:46] who has been banned from which channel? [13:47] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (kjbeo appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [13:48] from ubuntu channel [13:49] StevenR: chenthu, what's your business here? [13:50] oCean: no business aren't we supposeed to be here?.... [13:50] see topic [13:50] chenthu: exactly [13:50] ok [13:50] oCean: curiosity. someone was referred here, and I'm merely curious as to how this process works within the ubuntu irc community [13:50] !logs [13:50] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [13:51] StevenR: the channel is publicly logged ^ [13:51] StevenR: but you are not supposed to idle here [13:51] StevenR: it's not a spectator sport, we have a strict policy to allow no idlers to prevent hecklers [13:51] with no exceptions, I'm afraid [13:51] fair enough. I see the point. Thanks for the link [13:52] i dont want to be banned any more [13:53] user__: are you sure you are banned? [13:54] yes [13:54] on #ubuntu? [13:54] user__: trying to find that actual ban, but I cannot find one with your current ip [13:54] yes [13:54] user__: but you are currently talking in #ubuntu [13:54] oCean i dont understand [13:55] user__: if you are banned, you should be able to talk on #ubuntu [13:55] should NOT be able [13:55] oCean i have been banned from ubuntu channel about 1 month ago [13:55] user__: well you aren't anymore [13:55] user__: but you are IN #ubuntu now [13:55] talking [13:55] at that time this is not my nick [13:56] then give us the details of that ban [13:56] what nick? [13:56] impiza [13:56] right, there's even more than one [13:57] ? [13:58] you clearly tried to evade those bans before. That's not really helping your case [13:59] what [13:59] user__: so you are currently ban evading. You have to stop that first [13:59] you have to remove yourself from the #ubuntu channel [13:59] i have been waiting for more than one month [13:59] k [14:00] so [14:01] now i am not using #ubuntu [14:03] oCean [14:04] user__: I'm not the operator that set your ban, so I have to find more context to remove it [14:05] at this point I don't have enough context to actually remove it. I'd rather have the OP that set your ban look into this [14:05] hello user__ [14:05] I was the one who set your ban [14:05] ikonia: ah, there you are :) [14:06] hello ikonia [14:06] I storm dumped my connection for a moment [14:06] hello [14:06] oh u remember me [14:06] totally [14:07] you are the user who persistantly tries to use #ubuntu for mint support and dodge bans [14:07] ikonia i have say sorry about a 1000 times before ! please remove my ban dear [14:07] I know you've said sorry 1000 times before, but everytime you re-commit the same issue [14:08] i dont remember for what i have come there on that day [14:08] I do [14:08] re commit what ? [14:09] user__: are you currently using ubuntu and do you need help / support ? [14:10] just remove my ban ! [14:10] i not here for any help or support now [14:10] user__: then come back when you are [14:10] please / [14:10] i dont understand [14:11] user__: you do understand, so please don't try this [14:11] ? [14:12] user__: you have tried on a number of occasions to use #ubuntu for mint support, you have tried to circumvent your ban (as you just tried earlier today) to gain access to #ubuntu on multiple occasions, why should I remove your ban ? [14:12] will you give me a chance ! please [14:12] user__: you have had chances, and you keep trying [14:13] it's easier for me to leave the ban in place and stop you asking the #ubuntu community for help with mint [14:13] ikonia u also use mint channel too [14:14] correct [14:16] hummm [14:17] user__: please come back if you have a genuine need to use the #ubuntu support channel, in the mean time, please stop trying to gain access [14:19] if you not remove my ban then how can i access to this channel [14:19] again [14:19] user__: you type /join #ubuntu-ops [14:19] the same way you did to join it this time [14:19] the ban in #ubuntu has nothing to do with your ability to join this channel [14:19] please [14:20] user__: I've explained the situation. [14:20] Please come back if you and when you have a genuine need to use the #ubuntu channel [14:20] ikonia this is cruel [14:21] user__: you don't need to use the channel now, so it should not cause you any problems [14:21] user__: do you use Mint as your operating system? [14:21] mint now use ubuntu too [14:22] Received a CTCP VERSION from popey what is this [14:23] user__: someone is looking at the version of the irc client you are using [14:23] user__: the next time you have a genuine need for the #ubuntu channel, join this channel and we can discuss your ban [14:23] how to do that [14:24] user__: this isn't a support channel, [14:25] user__: please leave this channel now and you're welcome to come back the next time you have a need for the #ubuntu channel [14:29] user__: do you understand ? [14:30] this is too much ! you are not going to remove my ban ! :-( [14:30] correct [14:30] not at this time [14:31] I have explained that if you come back when you need to use #ubuntu we can discuss it then [14:31] do you understand that? [14:32] :-( [14:32] humm [14:32] k [14:32] thank you [14:33] now, please leave this channel and come back when you actually want to use #ubuntu [16:00] Pulled the ban I set in -server a week ago. [16:02] I haven't removed it from #u yet [16:13] user__ was banevading in #u [17:07] oCean: again ? [17:08] no, not that I know of [17:08] I kickbanned at ^that occasion [19:36] !backtrack > nakedsnakekid [19:47] spidersense tickles [19:53] oPT1mus = ? [19:53] rings bells [19:53] ? [19:54] I don't remember what, but that sounds familiar nick [20:18] rww: ping [20:18] rww: ok, so what now? [20:19] opt1mus: Hi. You're banned from #ubuntu-offtopic because trolls are not permitted in #ubuntu-offtopic and your behavior leads me to believe that your only reason for being in there is to run through the standard ##club-ubuntu trolling playbook. As you've been advised, attempting to join #ubuntu-offtopic constitutes a violation of freenode policy, so stop doing it. [20:21] rww: I see, well my purpose in there was to obtain a reason for Anastasius' ban. I had no intentions of trolling, my jupming through IPs was due to being somewhat annoyed at being banned, when I had said nothing more than referring to chan' numbers, as was someone else, that it was aimed at. I do not troll, I enjoy discussion. [20:21] *jumping [20:22] opt1mus: Anastasius knows why he's banned and knows what to do to appeal bans. [20:23] rww: ok, so i'll let him know about this channel. May I have the ban lifted, please? [20:23] opt1mus: no [20:23] we usually don't discuss bans 1) on other channels than this 2) with others than the person banned [20:23] Myrtti: well I wasn't aware of that, I am now. [20:24] Myrtti: I have no intentions of trolling, otherwise I wouldn't be here, i'd carrying on with the silly IP game. [20:25] Myrtti: rww: throw me a line here? [20:25] opt1mus: no [20:25] rww: why so obtuse? [20:26] opt1mus: on the contrary, I think I've been perfectly clear [20:28] rww: yes, and I feel I've made myself clear. I asked for an explanation, there was none, you refused to even let me know of this place at first. But now that we are on the same page you should see that i'd not waltz on in without the say so of your good selves. [20:37] rww: you've read me wrong, so be it. [20:37] opt1mus: if you would kindly part the channel, we have a no idling policy and rww has made clear he is not removing your ban. [20:39] thank you.