=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [07:23] morning all [08:02] hello all [08:06] Morning [08:27] \o [09:05] good morning everyone. [09:05] \o brobostigon [09:06] HazRPG: when you are next around, i need a quick word, please. [09:06] o/ MartijnVdS [09:07] * MartijnVdS pets his SSD again [09:07] :) [09:07] also, I need a SATA-3 (6 Gbit) interface in my machine.. I'm not using its full potential now :) [09:08] It takes longer to get through the BIOS from powerup than to get to the login screen after the BIOS finishes :) [09:08] MartijnVdS: OCZ one? [09:08] daubers: "Intel 510" 120GB [09:08] ah, ok\ [09:08] [09:09] Model Number: INTEL SSDSC2MH120A2 [09:09] me eczema is really playing up, i am hating this, and timing aswell. [09:13] heh: [09:13] SSD - 2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 2min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT. [09:14] "normal" disk - 46min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 46min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT. [09:21] :D [09:22] now if only Intel would hurry up releasing Ivy Bridge [09:23] but I read that's been pushed back to March :( [09:27] aloha [09:27] howdy czajkowski [09:39] * StevenR waits for more paint to dry [09:45] * StevenR wonders if it's possible to "remote control" his camera [09:48] StevenR: Which camera? [09:48] canon powershot a1100 is [09:49] there's a psremote application [09:49] but it's windows only... still, shows it's possible [09:49] (I'd like to do timelapse with it :)) [09:50] StevenR: http://www.circuitsathome.com/tag/canon-powershot [09:54] daubers: thanks :) (I was hoping to do it with arduino, but my google fu is weak this morning) [09:56] like when we do a show, get into the the theatre before the set goes in, and do a 1/min shot or something [09:57] so the set builds like magic :) [09:58] also, it'd be handy for rehearsals to catch whole set shots [09:58] cos nobody ever takes the photos that I want :) [10:04] heh [10:06] You can do timed shots on Canon cameras with gphoto [10:06] at least, I can with my EOS and Ixus [10:06] and my Ixus also has the "CHDK" option [10:06] http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK [10:07] the photographers are taking shots of the actors for press/archive ... which is great, but I like shots of my lighting too :D [10:07] heh, I used to take pictures of the empty podium (with instruments) before a band started to play [10:07] For the light guys [10:08] MartijnVdS: what do you use as a frontend for control? [10:08] (for the timed shots) [10:08] StevenR: I just did a few shots before the show started, nothing special [10:09] (and then a lot of shots once the band started to play) [10:22] * daubers is quite excited about next weekend now [10:22] A lot to do this week to be ready [10:23] daubers: oggcamp? [10:23] MooDoo: Indeedy :) [10:23] pah! :p [10:26] MooDoo: Heh, I need to make sure the storage system I've put aside is ready, build a local mirror on another (and drop a better nic in it), take one of the cameras I'm borrowing somewhere with a lot of ambient noise and test it, and try OpenShot with AVCHD files [10:26] hmmm avchd [10:27] MartijnVdS: Most video cameras at the moment will record into AVCHD, so it's here to stay unfortunatley [10:27] daubers: at least it's a standard, and HD [10:28] MartijnVdS: Rubbish to edit in though :( [10:28] daubers: hah, but EDITING hd video is for pirates and movie studios [10:28] not mortals [10:29] MartijnVdS: Pah, I do it at least once or twice a week while testing stuff [10:29] daubers: well yes, but you supply to movie studios, don't you? [10:29] MartijnVdS: Was editing in dpx the other day. _That_ is insane [10:29] MartijnVdS: Not many movie studios. Mostly TV types [10:31] Too bad that "TV types" don't seem to understand HD here :( [10:31] MartijnVdS: HD is expensive. It'll take time for a lot of people to move their workflows over [10:32] daubers: All major TV channels in .nl are available in HD.. but there's only upscaled content on them [10:32] daubers: Two live events in HD at the same time? Unpossible! [10:32] MartijnVdS: Yeah, that's cheap and easy :) [10:32] (upscaling) [10:32] When there are two sporting events, one gets HD, the other what they call "SD+" (aka 576p) [10:33] hrrmph. gphoto won't make my camera take a photo. it's unsupported by the camera (connect a usb cable and it goes into "pc connect mode" [10:33] StevenR: can you set the camera to a different mode? [10:33] StevenR: in the menus? [10:34] MartijnVdS: To do HD in FCP or Avid you need very expensive storage, as you can't edit in a compressed format like h264 due to key framing. Most of the HD codecs work at about 20-50MB/s/stream so if you use 2 streams of HD you need to get 100MB/s to each edit station [10:34] MartijnVdS: Also, editing in HD really really hurts processors, so you need excessively powerful machines to edit in it [10:35] daubers: What's no in my phone was once excessively powerful though [10:35] now* [10:36] MartijnVdS: Avid recommends Xeons rather than i7's these days [10:36] MartijnVdS: FCP recommends 8 core xeons for editing HD [10:36] Was it 8 or 6… I forget [10:36] 10-core xeons exist [10:38] MartijnVdS: the menus stop orking when it becomes a pc device [10:38] daubers: Still, the public broadcaster (tax money etc.) should upgrade ALL its channels at once, not one every 3 years :) [10:39] StevenR: sure, but in mine there's an option to set "PC Mode" before I connect it [10:39] MartijnVdS: You're talking about £50k+ for each post house! Thats before you take in account camera's, training, channel bandwidth and so on [10:41] daubers: They have 3 HD outputs, and they can do 3 HD broadcasts at once. It's just that they can't do >1 HD live feed at once [10:41] daubers: it feels like they didn't upgrade _something_ yet :) [10:42] MartijnVdS: I suspect it'll be a mix of cameras and what not still in process [10:46] daubers: probably [10:46] daubers: I just want everything in hd... I'm impatient like that :) [10:48] Ah, found the 2011-2015 plan on their web site [10:48] \o/ [10:52] cool, they have a comparison [10:53] MartijnVdS: yeah, I don't get that option, the menus are rather slimmed down [10:55] StevenR: maybe CHDK is available then? [11:11] MartijnVdS: nope. looks like I need to use a servo or something [11:11] but there's code out there to do that :) [11:48] what about that Unity eh? [11:48] what a pile of manure. [11:49] Thats your opinion - some of us like Unity [12:08] i don't like unity. but i'm too lazy to use real gnome [12:13] directhex: what do you use? [12:14] StevenR, unity. i just don't enjoy it :) [12:14] i've turned off some of the most obnoious changes in recent ubuntu - e.g. i have a real system tray, and i un-mapped the Super key so i can use gnome do [12:20] ahh, I see === GentileBen is now known as RaycisCharles [13:22] * StevenR blacklists an IP from South Korea [13:23] Only one? [13:23] yeah [13:23] it was trying to bruteforce my ssh not-quite-vpn [13:23] but it only accepts two large ssh keys [13:24] so a bruteforce password attach isn't gonna fly [13:24] *attack [13:25] StevenR: install fail2ban [13:26] it'll auto-block IPs after auth failures in seconds [13:26] interesting to watch it try though :) [13:26] fail2ban++ [13:40] well. that is irritating. Neither denyhosts or fail2ban are available for the repos on that box [13:40] (it's centos5, rather than ubuntu) [13:45] Oh :/ [13:45] tried EPEL? [13:46] not yet. I kindof wanted to keep it nice and slim :) [13:46] I know what you mean [13:46] and you use centos? :P [13:46] MartijnVdS: it's slim enough :P [13:47] (that and I have to support it at work, so I like to keep my hand in) [13:52] Hmmm. PHP segfaulted, and not because I was doing something silly in C again. [13:52] mgdm: cool, reproducible? [13:53] Not yet :-) [13:53] I happens every now and again, but often it's because of something I've written and compiled in, so I tend not to take too much notice [14:40] hi [14:41] hi GirlyGirl [14:44] bye lol [14:45] oh dear brobostigon [14:45] ;) [14:46] hamitron: huh ? [14:46] you scared her off [14:46] i did no such thing.i couldnt have. [14:47] hehe [14:47] brobostigon: humour [14:47] hmm, ok. [15:03] sorry [15:25] lambda's in c++0x sure are great === Featureffreak is now known as Featurefreak [17:08] Evening [17:15] sorry to ask, but I need to find a simple way of creating a mysql database using the linux terminal, can somebody point me in the direction of a easy to understand tutorial please? [17:16] !mysql [17:16] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [17:16] hmm, not that helpful [17:17] http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user [17:17] something like that maybe scoundrel50a [17:18] ah, thank you, that looks like it might help. If I can understand it....thank you. [17:27] yippee, that worked, I just created a db using the terminal, amazing..... [17:35] \o/ circuit board modified and rerouted === RaycisCharles is now known as mintsauce [17:49] While we are on the subject of databases. Is there a good db designer in the Software Centre? [17:50] It doesn't need db access, just a visual interpretation of tables [18:03] I used something for my postgresql at one point [18:04] I'm tempted to say pgadmin but I'm sure I'm wrong [18:04] there is a sqllite one [18:04] i'v used it before, it was okay [18:05] I don't need actual db interaction as I will be creating things by hand later. I just want a visual way of setting up tables [18:05] Have just tried dbdesigner, but it's failing to run [18:05] right, but things that are designed to visually set up tables, often also do db interaction as well [18:06] Fair enough [18:07] there is a kde one [18:07] oml thing [18:07] akonadi? [18:10] mum bought me a mini fridge for my room :D http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/August%202011/IMG_20110807_190706.jpg [18:10] only 10 quid from boot sale too, fun fun \o/ [18:14] Azelphur: maybe a hint "here is your first piece of kit to move out" [18:14] bigcalm: I quite like the mysqlworkbench [18:14] ;) [18:14] hamitron: haha nah I've been after getting one, it's a long way to the fridge from up here so most houses have a little fridge on the top floor if people are living up there [18:14] kinda sucks walking 3 down and 3 up just to get a drink or something. [18:15] yeh :/ [18:15] certainly adds time [18:15] I know a lot wonder what take me so long making a coffee [18:15] takes* [18:20] with mailing lists, using google apps and thunderbird, is there something sensible I can do to make the mailing lists a bit more separated? [18:20] like have it separate from my unread count and move it to another folder or something [18:20] Thanks for the suggestions peeps. I shall be looking into them more later [18:26] Azelphur: create filters in gmail so they don't go in the inbox? [18:26] ah, I see :) [19:01] greetings [19:01] there really was a uk channel for buntu... :) [19:03] s/was/is [19:03] yea, we might be English too [19:03] although word on the street is we're all from mumbai india secretly :P [19:03] we outsourced the channel? [19:03] yea :( [19:05] :) [19:05] now I must depart, somewhere...somehow there is a Ubuntu machine needing saving (somewhere being over the road, somehow being turned off during a dist upgrade) [19:05] \o/ [19:06] how is the wether other there? [19:07] Azelphur: yea, save the world, save your buntu! ;) [19:31] :P [19:31] so I've returned with a rather unhappy looking netbook [19:31] I ran dpkg-reconfigure -a to finish the stuff [19:40] dum da dum dum [19:43] doesn't seem to want to let me login though :( [19:44] login screen comes up looks like no gnome-settings-daemon and then when I login it puts up a notification "Install problem! the configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your system administrator." and then throws me back to the login screen [19:46] guess I'll backup /home and reload :p [19:49] Azelphur: what about running apt-get upgrade again? [19:50] are there any packages that haven't yet been updated? [19:50] happy days [19:50] StevenR: nope [19:53] StevenR: think I might just be crazy and try and do the 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade and hope it fixes all the busted config files that happened during the last one [19:55] Azelphur: can't make it any more broken [19:55] indeed [20:01] Hmmm…. my meagre electronics knowledge is failing me [21:05] <__steve__> Any python guru's online? Not for troubleshooting, was hoping on advice on how to go about a particular cgi project... [21:07] __steve__: probably easiest just to ask, if anyone knows they might answer [21:11] <__steve__> thanks, got an existing script I use for backing up. I have recently started playing with cgi scripts, but as the backup takes a long time it is not suitable for use within the cgi script. Should I look at using a client-server setup? Any advice would be appreciated. [21:12] Does it need to be run as a CGI? Might it be easier to trigger it as a cron job? [21:19] <__steve__> mgdm, Again thanks for the feedback. Its a headless box that I use as a media server. (Specifically I am dumping a DVD to an image file) So yes, I could run a cron job at regular intervals that checks for the presence of a disc but I am interested by the challenge of getting it to work from a cgi. Any pointers? [21:19] You'll be wanting to hand off to another process that can live a bit longer, in PHP land there are things like Gearman and ZMQ that can do that sort of thing, but itthat might be gigantic overkill [21:20] (they're not PHP-specific, they just get used there) [21:24] <__steve__> Those do look like they would be very useful! Overkill as you say - but it does make things interesting. Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking about a client-server architecture within python do you think? I was thinking it may be a good excuse to get better at threading. [21:37] __steve__: if you fancy a challenge, I don't see why not [21:38] having a main process kicking about that does work when pinged by the CGI? [21:40] <__steve__> mgdm, That what what I was thinking - Sound like it would work? [21:41] Yeah [21:42] <__steve__> Looking at ZMQ - it seems great. It is defiantly one to bookmark - I have a couple of ideas in mind which would be excellent. In this case though I think working from the ground up would give me more chance to learn more python. [21:43] sure [21:43] you basically need a 'go' button [21:48] <__steve__> Nice, do you use python much? Or are you more into php? [21:50] PHP is my day job, and I've got involved in the project itself, but I play with Python every now and again [21:55] <__steve__> Fair enough, I do like python - suits my needs well. Thanks for the feedback. [21:56] No problem :-) I'd be interested to hear how you end up doing it [21:57] <__steve__> Sure thing, I dont get the chance to play with any programming in work time so it doesnt take much for me to start coding when Im home. [21:58] I do development all day at work, which doesn't stop me doing it outside of work too :-) [22:01] <__steve__> You mentioned you are involved in the php project, do you do dev work? [22:06] __steve__: yeah, I have done the odd bit on the core and work on some extensions [22:08] <__steve__> mgdm, Well the best of luck to you. Must shoot for now though - otherwise I will get it in the ear. ;-p