[00:13] <snap-l> Made the mistake of disconnecting my microphone, and had to reboot to get Natty to see it again.
[00:14] <rick_h_> ouch
[00:17] <jrwren> usb mic?
[00:17] <jrwren> where is hald when you love him?
[00:17] <snap-l> Yep
[00:17] <snap-l> jrwren: I can't even parse that sentence.
[00:18] <jrwren> :)
[00:18] <snap-l> got some goodies from Borders again
[00:18] <snap-l> Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior
[00:21] <jrwren> you never answered me Q...
[00:21] <jrwren> which Rachmaninov?
[00:22] <snap-l> Sergei
[00:31] <jrwren> yes, i meant which piece.
[00:31] <jjesse> evening :)
[00:35] <rick_h_> party
[00:36] <snap-l> Vocalise, with Bobby McFerrin
[00:38] <jrwren> oh my.
[00:38] <jrwren> party sounds nice.
[02:31] <snap-l> Evening.
[02:54] <_stink_> yo
[13:08] <rick_h_> NC dude's qotd: "Fortune: Stone's Law: One man's "simple" is another man's "huh?"
[13:08] <rick_h_> this comes after I tried explaining how to fix his broken code using events in JS
[13:09] <rick_h_> so my reply: Rick's law, simple and huh are just points along the lines of education and experience. Both are lines we can move across. :)"
[13:38] <brousch> one man's simple is another man's java
[13:46] <brousch> hah, i love how the detroit area names their events "Michigan" when the rest of the state would love to disown that whole section
[13:49] <snap-l> rick_h_: I need that on a T-Shirt.
[13:51] <snap-l> Totally tweeted that.
[13:53] <brousch> :P
[13:53] <snap-l> brousch: That's OK, we totally disown the rest of the state too.
[13:54] <snap-l> Especially those crazy folks over on the west side.
[14:26] <rick_h_> hah
[14:27] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, man that guy just hits every one of my pet peeves
[14:28] <brousch> rick_h_: you're very tenacious. i gave up convincing people at my work to learn long ago
[14:29] <rick_h_> the problem is he hops into the softdev channel and asks crap
[14:29] <rick_h_> "I'm trying to do this, does anyone know how to do it better?"
[14:29] <rick_h_> and of course, as the responsible co-worker trying to education I have to stick my foot in there
[14:29] <rick_h_> and it leads to an hour of why my way is too complicated/won't work
[14:29] <rick_h_> and then finally I get that quote left in the chat room after I leave
[14:30] <rick_h_> so I come back and go grrrrrrr
[14:44] <snap-l> It's because he really doesn't want to learn a new way
[14:44] <snap-l> I think that's what's grinding you so badly.
[16:03] <rick_h_> I think what grinds me is that he writes crap
[16:31] <snap-l> Right, and he doesn't want to get better. ;)
[18:36] <jjesse> spent the rainy morning here in CT at a Borders and was amazed at how trashed th store is, bathrooms not clean, books and crap on the floor, pretty disgusting
[18:49] <gamerchick02> i'm such a silly geek. got my wireless AP all set up with WPA2 security and a nice difficult password
[18:49] <jjesse> yay
[18:53] <gamerchick02> yeah
[18:53] <gamerchick02> i'm proud of myself. :)
[18:53] <gamerchick02> i like taunting the neighbors with our closed AP
[19:30] <_stink_> rick_h_: when you write your own decorators, do you use some special package for that?  google-fu suggests something might be better than the plain old function-that-takes-a-function in the regular syntax.
[20:52] <rick_h_> _stink_: just got through writing one for bookie
[20:52] <rick_h_> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/feature%2Fapi/bookie/lib/access.py#L183
[20:56] <_stink_> rick_h_: cool, thanks.
[20:57] <rick_h_> _stink_: it usually breaks down into "does the decorator need options?"
[20:57] <rick_h_> if so, then you need the class wrapper
[20:58] <rick_h_> if not, then you can use the plain version @something
[20:58] <rick_h_> it does import the decorator function
[20:58] <rick_h_> from decorator import decorator
[20:58] <rick_h_> not sure if that's what you saw/not
[21:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: yeah, i'm going to file this away - i'm chugging along using a pattern, but i'll soon learn if it's broken.
[21:02] <rick_h_> ok, sure thing
[21:02] <rick_h_> what are you using now?
[21:02] <rick_h_> just a normal function decorating?
[21:07] <_stink_> rick_h_: something like this: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/378/
[21:07] <_stink_> in pyramid
[21:15] <snap-l> Happy afternoon
[21:19] <rick_h_> _stink_: right, cool
[21:20] <rick_h_> yea, that way you can't setup args to the decorator
[21:20] <rick_h_> so that's the only reason my example was the one with more bits
[21:20] <rick_h_> doesn't authenticate do a db query?
[21:21] <rick_h_> ah, nvm, this might be run by an admin or something as well
[21:23] <snap-l> http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/captchas_to_keep_idiots_out_of_comment_threads/ <- snicker.
[21:24] <snap-l> Man, Ubuntu One is too easy to confuse.
[21:25] <rick_h_> heh
[21:25] <snap-l> I copied over a file at the coffee shop, but didn't let it finish up what it was doing
[21:25] <snap-l> so, naturally, when I get home, it won't copy over anything at all
[21:26] <snap-l> So, just to get things working right, I copied it over to Dropbox
[21:27] <snap-l> blergh
[23:29] <rick_h_> brousch: snap-l _stink_ widox jrwren http://paste.mitechie.com/show/379/
[23:29] <rick_h_> which talk do you think I should go for at 1devday detroit?
[23:32] <brousch> is anyone else doing python?
[23:32] <rick_h_> not sure, I was asked to bring some python to the conference
[23:32] <rick_h_> "even a beginner python talk would be good" was the initial request
[23:32] <brousch> i would suggest the python then
[23:33] <brousch> if you can show the breadth of python, that's be great
[23:33] <rick_h_> yea, just wasn't sure that the whole sweeping talk would be great or try to use python as an exmaple that would apply to any language
[23:34] <brousch> better than bash, simple gui, easy web with flask O:-)
[23:35] <brousch> just no gifs of women getting pooped on. those don't go over well
[23:35] <rick_h_> lol
[23:35] <brousch> men are ok though
[23:36] <snap-l> Yeah, nobody cares if men get crapped on
[23:39] <brousch> i should put one together for our grdevday
[23:39] <brousch> it's mostly .net people
[23:57] <brousch> ok, i did it, i submitted
[23:59] <rick_h_> cool
[23:59] <brousch> Having an intro to Python talk to hone over time will be very useful
[23:59] <brousch> now i need some fun projects to show it off