[00:13] Made the mistake of disconnecting my microphone, and had to reboot to get Natty to see it again. [00:14] ouch [00:17] usb mic? [00:17] where is hald when you love him? [00:17] Yep [00:17] jrwren: I can't even parse that sentence. [00:18] :) [00:18] got some goodies from Borders again [00:18] Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior [00:21] you never answered me Q... [00:21] which Rachmaninov? [00:22] Sergei [00:31] yes, i meant which piece. [00:31] evening :) [00:35] party [00:36] Vocalise, with Bobby McFerrin [00:38] oh my. [00:38] party sounds nice. [02:31] Evening. [02:54] <_stink_> yo [13:08] NC dude's qotd: "Fortune: Stone's Law: One man's "simple" is another man's "huh?" [13:08] this comes after I tried explaining how to fix his broken code using events in JS [13:09] so my reply: Rick's law, simple and huh are just points along the lines of education and experience. Both are lines we can move across. :)" [13:38] one man's simple is another man's java [13:46] hah, i love how the detroit area names their events "Michigan" when the rest of the state would love to disown that whole section [13:49] rick_h_: I need that on a T-Shirt. [13:51] Totally tweeted that. [13:53] :P [13:53] brousch: That's OK, we totally disown the rest of the state too. [13:54] Especially those crazy folks over on the west side. [14:26] hah [14:27] snap-l: yea, man that guy just hits every one of my pet peeves [14:28] rick_h_: you're very tenacious. i gave up convincing people at my work to learn long ago [14:29] the problem is he hops into the softdev channel and asks crap [14:29] "I'm trying to do this, does anyone know how to do it better?" [14:29] and of course, as the responsible co-worker trying to education I have to stick my foot in there [14:29] and it leads to an hour of why my way is too complicated/won't work [14:29] and then finally I get that quote left in the chat room after I leave [14:30] so I come back and go grrrrrrr [14:44] It's because he really doesn't want to learn a new way [14:44] I think that's what's grinding you so badly. [16:03] I think what grinds me is that he writes crap [16:31] Right, and he doesn't want to get better. ;) [18:36] spent the rainy morning here in CT at a Borders and was amazed at how trashed th store is, bathrooms not clean, books and crap on the floor, pretty disgusting [18:49] i'm such a silly geek. got my wireless AP all set up with WPA2 security and a nice difficult password [18:49] yay [18:53] yeah [18:53] i'm proud of myself. :) [18:53] i like taunting the neighbors with our closed AP [19:30] <_stink_> rick_h_: when you write your own decorators, do you use some special package for that? google-fu suggests something might be better than the plain old function-that-takes-a-function in the regular syntax. === gamerchick02_ is now known as gamerchick02 [20:52] _stink_: just got through writing one for bookie [20:52] https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/feature%2Fapi/bookie/lib/access.py#L183 [20:56] <_stink_> rick_h_: cool, thanks. [20:57] _stink_: it usually breaks down into "does the decorator need options?" [20:57] if so, then you need the class wrapper [20:58] if not, then you can use the plain version @something [20:58] it does import the decorator function [20:58] from decorator import decorator [20:58] not sure if that's what you saw/not [21:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: yeah, i'm going to file this away - i'm chugging along using a pattern, but i'll soon learn if it's broken. [21:02] ok, sure thing [21:02] what are you using now? [21:02] just a normal function decorating? [21:07] <_stink_> rick_h_: something like this: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/378/ [21:07] <_stink_> in pyramid [21:15] Happy afternoon [21:19] _stink_: right, cool [21:20] yea, that way you can't setup args to the decorator [21:20] so that's the only reason my example was the one with more bits [21:20] doesn't authenticate do a db query? [21:21] ah, nvm, this might be run by an admin or something as well [21:23] http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/captchas_to_keep_idiots_out_of_comment_threads/ <- snicker. [21:24] Man, Ubuntu One is too easy to confuse. [21:25] heh [21:25] I copied over a file at the coffee shop, but didn't let it finish up what it was doing [21:25] so, naturally, when I get home, it won't copy over anything at all [21:26] So, just to get things working right, I copied it over to Dropbox [21:27] blergh [23:29] brousch: snap-l _stink_ widox jrwren http://paste.mitechie.com/show/379/ [23:29] which talk do you think I should go for at 1devday detroit? [23:32] is anyone else doing python? [23:32] not sure, I was asked to bring some python to the conference [23:32] "even a beginner python talk would be good" was the initial request [23:32] i would suggest the python then [23:33] if you can show the breadth of python, that's be great [23:33] yea, just wasn't sure that the whole sweeping talk would be great or try to use python as an exmaple that would apply to any language [23:34] better than bash, simple gui, easy web with flask O:-) [23:35] just no gifs of women getting pooped on. those don't go over well [23:35] lol [23:35] men are ok though [23:36] Yeah, nobody cares if men get crapped on [23:39] i should put one together for our grdevday [23:39] it's mostly .net people [23:57] ok, i did it, i submitted [23:59] cool [23:59] Having an intro to Python talk to hone over time will be very useful [23:59] now i need some fun projects to show it off