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JZApples	VxQf, how do I find out what drive that is on then? I would like to move it to the same drive as my OS and keep my two RAID arrays strictly for data storage.	00:00
VxQf	You're using ubuntu desktop?	00:01
fosburg	trying to figure out how to change desktop look and feel. at present there is a bar (top screen) first5 pull down menu is applications. When I installed Ubuntuu, Icons ran down the left side.and had pull down menus. that's what I want on the desktop--any suggestions how to fix?	00:01
JZApples	VxQf, 11.04, yes.	00:01
VxQf	Basically,	00:01
VxQf	Redoing swap partition is... annoying.	00:01
mengu	hi all. i'm opening my sound manager and i see no input devices there. why is that?	00:02
VxQf	And I don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing	00:02
VxQf	And have full backups of everything.	00:02
VxQf	If you have a few GB of free space on your OS disk you can just add a swap partition there	00:02
VxQf	But otherwise you'll need to resize	00:02
VxQf	Which can be dangerous.	00:02
bastidrazor	mega1_: in a terminal type sudo adduser usernametobeadmin admin	00:03
VxQf	You should pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l	00:03
teamcha	hi	00:03
krazykrivda	my vfat partition is mounted RW but the folder shows a LOCK icon ansd i cannot modify anything in it. even as root.. any suggestions?	00:03
teamcha	quit	00:03
JZApples	VxQf, can i resize the partition from live cd? Pastebin coming. Thank you so much for your help.	00:03
dontworry	Hello, I am having some trouble with my wireless usb stick. I have the proper drivers (from the CD) and I can see all the networks that are available to connect to, but when I try to connect to my home one and enter the passcode, it does not let me connect. I disabled the passcode just to try it out and it did connect. I was wondering why it wouldn't let me connect with a passcode	00:03
VxQf	Yes but resizing partitions is always dangerous	00:04
VxQf	Make sure you have full backups of all your data.	00:04
tzhuang	is anyone here familiar with vpn clients that can help me	00:04
tzhuang	i'm looking to connect to a remote server from china to bypass the youtube/fb block	00:04
VxQf	What do you need to know, tzhuang?	00:05
JZApples	VxQf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/660159/	00:06
JZApples	tzhuang, lol nice. stick it to the man.	00:06
VxQf	IF you're using ubuntu you shouldn't need any vpn "clients" you can get plugins for network manager that will connect to most types of VPN	00:06
VxQf	IE cisco/openvpn	00:06
nezeroth	Can someone help me with an Ubuntu question regarding the use of dual monitors on dual (but different manuf) video cards?	00:07
VxQf	JZApples, swap partition is on SDA5....	00:07
usalabs	anyone know how I can stop the nVidia Control panel resolution from always returning back to 'Auto' (1024x768), every time I run an app that changes screen resolution, and I exit the app, the screen always returns back to 1024x768, even though I have changed res to 1152x864 and saved changes to /etc/X11/Xorg.conf	00:07
qin	tzhuang: You could just try ssh and socks proxy	00:07
fosburg	trying to figure out how to change desktop look and feel. at present there is a bar (top screen) firsts pull down menu is applications. When I installed Ubuntuu, Icons ran down the left side.and had pull down menus. that's what I want on the desktop--any suggestions how to fix?	00:08
JZApples	VxQf, Awesome! That is its own partition on my OS disk.	00:08
VxQf	Right	00:08
VxQf	Seems odd that it would be mounting that through the mapper thoug.	00:08
VxQf	Is it just a normal sata disk?	00:08
bazhang	fosburg, choose unity from the login window	00:08
tzhuang	VxQf: looking for remote server to connect to on a vpn client that's free	00:08
mega1_	How do I list all users	00:08
tzhuang	VxQf: tired of looking for free proxies with a billion ads	00:09
tzhuang	qin: where can i get more info?	00:09
fosburg	ok on the login window	00:09
VxQf	tzhuang, Not really the place to be asking that to be honest.	00:09
JZApples	VxQf, it's listed as Unknown in Disk Utility. Yes normal SATA. I also have 4 1tb drives that I'm in the process of setting up software RAID 10 on and an external RAID 10 enclosure with 4 2tb disks. Can you help me setup fstab and mtab? I'm worried I'm going to screw something up.	00:09
DrekNYC	Mooooooootheeeeeeerr fuckeeeeeeeers :D	00:09
tzhuang	VxQf: hmmm any idea where i should be looking?	00:09
krazykrivda	my vfat partition is mounted RW but the folder shows a LOCK icon ansd i cannot modify anything in it. even as root.. any suggestions?	00:09
VxQf	tzhuang, most free vpn services are terrible and wont let you stream, FYI.	00:10
qin	tzhuang: man ssh, option -D, http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/	00:10
VxQf	JZApples, Maybe. yse UUIDs	00:10
VxQf	Oh wait	00:10
VxQf	Can you even do that with a mapper?	00:10
VxQf	lol	00:10
usalabs	tzhuang try installing Tor it's an anonymity proxy service	00:11
JZApples	VxQf, i was planning on using UUIDs. wouldn't I want to change that to /dev/sda5 in fstab?	00:11
tzhuang	VxQf, qin: thx for the help i'll look into the link qin posted	00:11
VxQf	usalabs, tor is not meant for streaming youtube.	00:11
VxQf	JZApples, no.	00:12
VxQf	sudo blkid /dev/sda5	00:12
VxQf	Will get you the uuid	00:12
VxQf	and in fstab is appears as uuid="UUID"	00:12
tzhuang	usalabs: thx	00:12
VxQf	without quotes	00:12
JZApples	VxQf, also, if I don't have a floppy drive, can this row be removed from fstab? /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0	00:13
VxQf	Speaking of which	00:13
VxQf	Sure you can get rid of it.	00:13
JZApples	VxQf, yeah I was planning on using blkid to get UUID of all drives for fstab.	00:13
nezeroth	Any takers on the dual video card question?	00:13
JZApples	VxQf, isn't it also weird that my OS partition isn't listed in fstab? I thought that was weird. after taking out the floppy, all i have is the swap in there.	00:14
bazhang	!details \| nezeroth	00:14
VxQf	nezeroth, that is not fun.	00:14
ubottu	nezeroth: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."	00:14
vanquish349	my brother touched my computer yesturday is there a way i can check what he did	00:14
JZApples	vanquish349, beat the information out of him.	00:14
vanquish349	he is 19 i am 14	00:15
JZApples	vanquish349, lol.	00:15
DeamosSeraph	heh	00:15
VxQf	I don't really have the experience but if you can't use the manufacturer thing like twinview, you'll need to either do sparate x-screens or xinerama...	00:15
mega1_	Can anyone tell me how to list all users	00:15
VxQf	mega1, cat /etc/passwd	00:15
nezeroth	I am running Ubuntu 11.04 (11.4?) and am running two monitors connected to two different video cards, I can only use my main display but I want to be able to use both cards and extend the desktop, help?	00:15
VxQf	Or if you want all users currently logged in just type users	00:16
VxQf	nezeroth, try looking into xinerama?	00:16
VxQf	IIRC that will do something like what you are after	00:16
nezeroth	ah, is that what that does? lol, I had a hunch.	00:16
VxQf	But I don't think it will do it as well as the nvidia/ati software.	00:16
escott	nezeroth, very hard to do AFAIK. usually you need one X server per video card	00:16
bazhang	!xrandr > nezeroth	00:16
ubottu	nezeroth, please see my private message	00:16
fosburg	<bazhang> fosburg, choose unity from the login window. How do I get to the login window? Sorry for my lack of knowledge	00:17
vanquish349	so is there a way i can check what he did	00:18
wrtiii	Could someone please give me a brief rundown on clonezilla? I have intalled my server, configured static IP, SSH, and used Tasksel for LAMP Server. I added my user to the www-data group and put a quick coming soon html page up via winscp. http://afterlife.dyndns.tv I still need to configure the dns servers or something since I went static IP? but what I want to be able to do is create a	00:18
wrtiii	mirror image of my server so if I make a mistake somewhere or break something while I start moving into territory that I am not very famillar with I can just back up a step from my backup.	00:18
bazhang	fosburg, when you start up, the place your username and password is, for you to log in to your system; choose a user, then select from the bottom panel	00:18
mengu	how do i reduce the noise that i get with the microphone?	00:18
bazhang	mengu, reduce in alsamixer (in terminal)	00:19
escott	nezeroth, if it is going to work your xorg.conf will need to be hand edited something like http://www.lukemacneil.com/computer-articles/xorg-conf-for-dual-video-cards-monitors-and-tv-out	00:19
mengu	which one? mic boost?	00:19
bazhang	wrtiii, check the clonezilla support forums	00:19
mASOUD_42	fosburg : click on the power icon on top right corner, choose logoff. then at the bottom middle there's a drop down list: ubuntu classic, unity, etc. choose unity and then login	00:19
escott	mengu, the mic boost gain should be lowered	00:19
fosburg	ok. thank you	00:20
mengu	thanks escott & bazhang	00:20
minimec	mengu: disable mic boost (type 'm' for 'mute')	00:20
krazykrivda	can anyone help me with mounting issues	00:21
bazhang	krazykrivda, need way more details	00:21
nezeroth	escott, wow, that seems complicated. I do not feel comfortable with that just yet, in fact I am looking at the link the bot sent me and Im not sure I can do that either.	00:21
krazykrivda	this is my mount : /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,iocharset=utf8,umask=000)	00:22
nezeroth	seems I am in for a night of reading, lol	00:22
escott	krazykrivda, for fat one of the mount options is to set a user to own the files (fat has no concept of file ownership)	00:22
escott	krazykrivda, you are missing that option	00:22
carl1408	I have 9.10 and want to do a distribution upgrade online. How to..?	00:22
nezeroth	afk one second, need more coffee.	00:22
krazykrivda	escott: what woudl I declare for EVERYONE to own?>	00:22
escott	nezeroth, and you only have a hope of this working if both cards are the same manufacturer (preferably identical)	00:23
escott	krazykrivda, set ownership to nobody and set the mask to give full permissions i guess	00:23
shorttech	all USB external HS should automount correct?	00:24
thevaliantx	how can i get my usb device (an android phone) to be recognized?	00:24
carl1408	I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade But didn't work.	00:24
usalabs	tzhuang PM	00:24
carl1408	thevaliantx: It should just come up like a usb device.	00:24
krazykrivda	escott: i'm not to familiar and have not used permissions/fstab in a while.. can u tell me what to put in	00:24
escott	thevaliantx, make sure the phone is set to usb mass storage and not charge. its in the phone's settings	00:24
nezeroth	one card is ati, the other is nvidia, but soon I hope to put my other similar nvidia card in with the SLI, but for now this is the setup I have XP	00:25
carl1408	thevaliantx: As escott says and then it should come up just like any other USB storage device.	00:25
escott	nezeroth, abandon all hope.. thats not going to work	00:26
nezeroth	escott, I never abandon hope, I just boot windows lol	00:26
usalabs	anyone know how I can stop the nVidia Control panel resolution from always returning back to 'Auto' (1024x768), every time I run an app that changes screen resolution, and I exit the app, the screen always returns back to 1024x768, even though I have changed res to 1152x864 and saved changes to /etc/X11/Xorg.conf	00:26
thevaliantx	escott i'm not sure where to find that in the settings.	00:26
ski_	hm, is there a way to get `ls -a' to list files starting with `.' separate from other files ? i'm looking through the `man' and `info' pages, but can't seem to find anything relevant -- it says "By default, sorting is done by character code (e.g., ASCII order).", but apparently that is not the case here	00:27
escott	nezeroth, the two would have completely different opengl library files. you might get things to work in vesa mode but why bother	00:27
krazykrivda	escott: hwo about this: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)	00:27
nezeroth	escott, I see your point and would tend to agree that this undertaking is quite beyond my abilities. Thank you for the information.	00:27
thevaliantx	escott the phone says that it is connected via usb, and that usb debugging is connected, yet nothing is showing when i try to find the device in nautilus	00:28
nezeroth	Oh, I had another question, can Ubuntu run MMO's?	00:28
escott	krazykrivda, that would seem ok. your normal user would be the main login, and the umask should give full permissions	00:28
nezeroth	Like Rift or Star Trek Online?	00:29
krazykrivda	escott: btu it still is NOT working.. even as root i cannot modify files	00:29
escott	krazykrivda, what are the permissions being reported as? what does ls -l say	00:29
escott	krazykrivda, also be sure to check the permissions of the mountpoint itself	00:30
krazykrivda	escott: drwxrwxrwx 42 charlie users 32768 1969-12-31 19:00 FILES	00:30
bullgard4_	I reinstalled Ubuntu using the 'ubuntu Server 11.04' CD. When the login screen appears, I cannot move the cursor, and Ctrl+Alt+F1 has no effect. How to fix that?	00:30
krazykrivda	escott: and moutn command returns : /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)	00:30
usalabs	ski_ have you tried piping using grep?, I don't exactly know the regex for grep, but it mught work	00:30
robinbowes	I'm using indamixx 4.3 which is based on Ubuntu	00:30
robinbowes	ACtually, it's transmissionOS 4.3, which is based on Ubuntu	00:31
escott	krazykrivda, what about ls -l /mnt/FILES/* what are the permissions inside are they not rwxrwxrwx?	00:31
lilcyber	Hey, did Ubuntu ever fix the heat bug in the Linux kernel?	00:31
robinbowes	I believe it is based on jaunty	00:31
ski_	usalabs : how would `grep' help, here ?	00:31
krazykrivda	mostly directories instide.. but here is 1 file directly at /mnt/FILES/*	00:31
krazykrivda	-rwxrwxrwx 1 charlie users 179 2010-05-08 14:10 examples.desktop	00:31
robinbowes	I need to install a driver for my wireless card	00:32
usalabs	ski_ ls -a \| grep {regex} to show only . files	00:32
escott	thevaliantx, its not debugging mode. when you first plugin the usb cord it should put a notification at the top of the phone. click on that notification should allow you to change the usb connection mode to usb mass storage (which will unmount the sdhc card on the phone and export it to your computer)	00:32
nezeroth	Oh, does Ubuntu have a way for me to see my core temps on my processor and other stuff like that?	00:32
ski_	usalabs : i'm attempting to get back the behaviour i know i had with `ls' before, so it should apply to `ls -a', `ls -al', &c.	00:32
centr0	how do i key bind a script?	00:32
robinbowes	According to: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download I can simply use:	00:32
robinbowes	sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty	00:32
krazykrivda	escott: even sudo mv/cp etc.. return read-only file system	00:32
rww	!lm-sensors \| ski_	00:32
ubottu	ski_: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.	00:32
rww	erm, wrong person.	00:32
usalabs	ski_ oh, sorry misunderstanding :(	00:32
rww	nezeroth: ^^^^	00:32
thune3	ski_: -d option ls -ad .* ?	00:32
lilcyber	@ nezeroth it does, just go to the byobu terminal	00:32
escott	krazykrivda, and you can't "touch /mnt/FILES/testfile.txt"	00:32
bregma	_ski: LANG=C ls -la	00:32
robinbowes	But, I'm guessing that I would need to add the jaunty repos to get that package?	00:33
bregma	_ski the problem is the default locale in your login session	00:33
escott	!info sensors \| nezeroth	00:33
ubottu	nezeroth: Package sensors does not exist in natty	00:33
lilcyber	@nezroth it is in Celsius though	00:33
krazykrivda	escott: nope :-\	00:33
krazykrivda	charlie@Charlie-Ubuntu:/mnt/FILES/Videos/Full Length$ touch /mnt/FILES/test touch: cannot touch `/mnt/FILES/test': Read-only file system\	00:33
ski_	thune3 : i want all files, just "sorting is done by character code" which the `info' page claims, but which actually doesn't happen	00:33
krazykrivda	escott: and sudo touch.. returns the same	00:34
escott	krazykrivda, thats really weird. what kind of media is this? usb, cd or what	00:34
nezeroth	rww, lilcyber, escott, I am not sure how to use either of those, sorry, could you tell me again like I was 5 ^.^	00:34
bregma	ski_, sorting is done according to te rules defined in the LC_COLLATE locale	00:34
ski_	since the default behaviour has changed, i'm assuming there's an option to get the old behaviour, but i don't know what it is	00:34
krazykrivda	escott: this is simply a partition on my hardrive.. ahd been working using fstab for months then 1 day.. it doesn't	00:34
rww	nezeroth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto has instructions.	00:34
lilcyber	@nezroth ok, which ubuntu do you have?	00:34
linuxman567	Hey!	00:34
lilcyber	Hey linuxman567	00:35
nezeroth	lilcyber, 11.04 or 11.4 something like that	00:35
ski_	bregma : ty. would you happend to know where i would look for info on that ?	00:35
nezeroth	the new one	00:35
OvermindDL1	I am trying to get a USB microphone to forward through the sound system so it comes out the primary speakers in Kubuntu, but I can find no way to do so, is there a way and if so then how?	00:35
bregma	ski_, start with man locale	00:35
OvermindDL1	11.04	00:35
kevin_	hello	00:35
alessandro_	!lista	00:36
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	00:36
nezeroth	thank you OvermindDL1	00:36
lilcyber	nezoth Ok go to the top left at the ubuntu logo click it and type in byobu terminal and click on it, the temp will be in C, also Is this related to the cpu heat?	00:36
lilcyber	*bug	00:36
ski_	bregma : ty	00:36
etass	hi all, i hope this doesnt go off topic, i think i accidentally did something "risky", i opened a website supposedly filled with spyware and browser exploit (only the latter being a threat i hope), the situation is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu, apparmor on (firefox default) javascript (strict) on (blocked by noscript tho) and images on, now i happen to see that that site may potentially harm my pc , is there any way to see if it happened or should i be worried? also,	00:36
etass	what protection does apparmor's default firefox profile offer? thanks in advance and sorry for the noob question	00:36
bregma	ski_, you can just set LANG or LC_ALL in your .profile	00:36
krazykrivda	escott: are you out of ideas as well?	00:36
qin	ski_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/red-hat-fedora-linux/22464-ls-output-order.html something to do with locale, or: for i in `ls -a` ; do echo $i \| grep "^\."; done; ls -1	00:36
thune3	ski_: ls -av ?	00:37
nezeroth	lilcyber, installing now.	00:37
lilcyber	Ah you didn't have it before?	00:38
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nezeroth	lilcyber, no but I do now, I installed it from the native terminal	00:38
ski_	qin : wouldn't that snippet only print dot-files ?	00:39
lilcyber	nezroth: Good, open it up and look at the bottom of the terminal. It should have in yellow the cpu temp	00:39
qin	ski_: thune3 ismore elegant with -v	00:39
ski_	thune3 : "-v natural sort of (version) numbers within text" -- i'm unsure of what all the implications of using this flag is ..	00:39
nezeroth	are you sure thats not voltage, lilcyber?	00:40
lilcyber	I am sure, I have checked.	00:40
nezeroth	kk, thank you	00:40
escott	krazykrivda, the permissions say it should work. im not clear on why it wouldnt	00:40
lilcyber	nezeroth Your welcome.	00:40
nezeroth	lilcyber, what else can I do in this byobu terminal?	00:41
bregma	ski_, ls -v will sort 6 befoe 18	00:41
krazykrivda	escott: ok.. wel thank you for ur help.. i swear everything was fine and working 1 day.. then the next.. ntohign worked.. and fstab was not changed	00:41
lilcyber	nezroth well if you hit F9 while in that terminal you can see the gadgets you can see, and the same exact thing you do in native terminal	00:42
nezeroth	lilcyber, so its just an updated/different native terminal from the one that comes with Ubuntu?	00:42
usalabs	ski_ the behavior of ls is determined in the .bashrc file in a user directory	00:42
etass	hi all, i hope this doesnt go off topic, i think i accidentally did something "risky", i opened a website supposedly filled with spyware and browser exploit (only the latter being a threat i hope), the situation is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu, apparmor on (firefox default) javascript (strict) on (blocked by noscript tho) and images on, now i happen to see that that site may potentially harm my pc , is there any way to see if it happened or should i be worried? also,	00:43
etass	what protection does apparmor's default firefox profile offer? thanks in advance and sorry for the noob question	00:43
lilcyber	nezeroth yes it is a the same terminal just a different look.	00:43
nezeroth	lilcyber, cool beans...you know of any good games I can play on this thing?	00:43
omeromer	I broke my unity profile on compiz... can anyone please send me the default unity profile?	00:43
lilcyber	nezeroth Actually I was just looking at them, private chat and we will talk, as so not to disturb the other people that need help	00:44
xangua	omeromer: you mean¿¿: unty --reset	00:44
xangua	unity --reset *	00:44
omeromer	it didn't help	00:44
omeromer	I'm still missing the top bar and everything is just broken	00:44
omeromer	I tried all commands recommended on the internet none worked	00:45
omeromer	this is freaking me out I hope I can fix this	00:45
bregma	ski_, try "info coreutils ;ls invocation'" for a detailed description of ls options and how to control them	00:45
lilcyber	omeromer I think you need to reinstall ubuntu	00:45
omeromer	is that for sure?	00:45
omeromer	no other way?	00:46
lilcyber	omeromer: I am not sure, but I doubt it. Well when you log in you can switch from ubuntu to ubuntu classic to see if that works.	00:46
omeromer	brb I'm doing a reset	00:47
omeromer2	lilcyber	00:49
omeromer2	when I turn on the PC	00:49
omeromer2	it doesn't even ask me to choose a user	00:49
omeromer2	it just instantly logs on as the only existing user	00:49
lilcyber	ok then log out, or switch users (top left power button)	00:49
ski_	bregma : yeah, i already did that :)	00:49
lilcyber	Then try	00:50
omeromer2	well	00:50
omeromer2	I don't have a top left power button	00:50
omeromer2	I don't have anything	00:50
lilcyber	Ah hmm..... you have terminal?	00:50
omeromer2	yes	00:50
etass	hi all, i hope this doesnt go off topic, i think i accidentally did something "risky", i opened a website supposedly filled with spyware and browser exploit (only the latter being a threat i hope), the situation is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu, apparmor on (firefox default) javascript (strict) on (blocked by noscript tho) and images on, now i happen to see that that site may potentially harm my pc , is there any way to see if it happened or should i be worried? also,	00:50
etass	what protection does apparmor's default firefox profile offer? thanks in advance and sorry for the noob question	00:50
ski_	usalabs : well, i doubt that, since i'm using `tcsh', not `bash'	00:50
lilcyber	omeromer2 hold on	00:50
minimec	omeromer2: Try 'metacity --replace' in that terminal. That should swich the session to 'ubuntu classic'. I think that should give you a top and bottom panel.	00:52
usalabs	ski_ have you tried ls -alF	00:52
ski_	usalabs : alias ls ls -aFl	00:52
minimec	omeromer2: metacity --replace will change the window-manager from unity (compiz) to the old gnome metacity window manager.	00:53
minimec	omeromer2: Only for the current session ;)	00:53
omeromer2	minimec I've tried that	00:54
omeromer2	it only gives me window title bars back	00:54
minimec	omeromer2: but you don have a panel... try gnome-panel in terminal after having swiched to metycity.	00:55
omeromer2	kk sec	00:55
usalabs	ski_ I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for but using under tcsh have you tried alias % \ls which should return ls to default	00:56
omeromer2	wow great I got the gnome panel	00:56
Omni\|Work	Is there a canonical (pun intended) way to install a command by pathame on the command line of Ubuntu? In Fedora, for example, I would do 'yum install /user/bin/telnet'.	00:58
mega1_	How can i get ubuntu server to format unpartctioned space on my hd	00:58
lolmatic	why does metacity take up 400 mb ram?	00:58
bazhang	Omni\|Work, install a command?	00:58
etass	hi all, i hope this doesnt go off topic, i think i accidentally did something "risky", i opened a website supposedly filled with spyware and browser exploit (only the latter being a threat i hope), the situation is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu, apparmor on (firefox default) javascript (strict) on (blocked by noscript tho) and images on, now i happen to see that that site may potentially harm my pc , is there any way to see if it happened or should i be worried? also,	00:59
etass	what protection does apparmor's default firefox profile offer? thanks in advance and sorry for the noob question	00:59
ski_	usalabs : i can assure you the problem is not about using `alias' or about using `tcsh' instead of `bash'	01:00
thevaliantx	escott: i really appreciate the help. i wish there were a Linux app designed specifically for Android for the purposes of transferring file (ie, photos, MUSIC) to the Android and vice versa. ironic given that Android runs on a Linux kernel.	01:01
K-Rich	said i needed to plug in :/ 4 hours though so not bad	01:01
thevaliantx	should i put all of my music in the DCIM folder?	01:01
usalabs	ski_ also your ls aliases are stored in ~/.cshrc	01:01
usalabs	ski oh ok	01:01
al_nz1	why do I get "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" when I enter mysql at cli?	01:03
thevaliantx	gotta' run to work, thanks for the help escott	01:03
mina2	im stuck trying to configure my phone via bluetooth to use it as a modem. in ubuntu 10.10. my phone is nokia 2730 classic. can anyone help please	01:06
mmcji	how do I fix network UNCLAIMED error for eth0 on my pc? I am running the latest updated ubuntu 11.04 on dell inspiron 1520. The hardware for eth0 is BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX	01:07
mmcji	wireless works fine and the eth0 interface is detected fine wit the live cd as well	01:07
mmcji	but when I install ubuntu, the ethernet interface does not work	01:07
thune3	Omni\|Work: apt-file (needs package apt-file) will allow you to find what package a file would belong to, then you could install the package.	01:09
mina2	hello	01:09
etass	hi all, i hope this doesnt go off topic, i think i accidentally did something "risky", i opened a website supposedly filled with spyware and browser exploit (only the latter being a threat i hope), the situation is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu, apparmor on (firefox default) javascript (strict) on (blocked by noscript tho) and images on, now i happen to see that that site may potentially harm my pc , is there any way to see if it happened or should i be worried? also,	01:10
etass	what protection does apparmor's default firefox profile offer? thanks in advance and sorry for the noob question	01:10
mmcji	etass: 99% chance you are just fine	01:12
mattalexx	How can I, if I have the string "/dev/sda1", get that partition's file system type into a variable? "ext3" for example.	01:12
mmcji	clear all cache , history etc in your browser, close and reopen	01:12
MXIIA	a friend of mine says that ubuntu suddenly stopped accepting keyboard/mouse input, then upon reboot he goes into a bootloop, any ideas?	01:13
mmcji	as long as you were not logged in as root, the chances of anything happening in linux are very very remote	01:13
etass	mmcji: so you say i shouldnt worry even if that site is actively used to spread malware? (i can link you it and its wot rate if u like)	01:13
willwh	MXIIA: is the disk encrypted?	01:13
willwh	or maybe just fubar? :P	01:13
mmcji	sure send me the link	01:13
bullgard4_	I reinstalled Ubuntu using the 'ubuntu Server 11.04' CD. Now I cannot login neither as a normal first user on the classical GNOME login screen nor on a virtual console probably because the keyboard layout setting is wrong. I can login as a second user though. How to fix this?	01:13
MXIIA	willwh, not that I'm aware of.	01:13
willwh	have you tried booting from a liveCD?	01:14
willwh	and mounting the disk?	01:14
mmcji	windows would be a different story	01:14
MXIIA	I'll suggest that.	01:14
mmcji	etass: what is hte link?	01:15
lenshark	hi guys. i'm browsing into a site which asks for a captcha input, but then the image is not shown. firebugged it and saw the image is restricted from me.. and have this message by google: "Unusual traffic from your computer network"	01:15
etass	mmcji: did i send it via pm?	01:15
mmcji	i didn't see it. your not sending me to a naughty site are you?	01:15
mina2	hello	01:15
mmcji	lol	01:16
lenshark	is there a tool in ubuntu i can use to detect what queries my ip is sending, something like that ?	01:16
etass	sent it	01:16
lenshark	the issue is here: http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?&&answer=86640	01:16
willwh	lenshark: netstat	01:16
etass	mmcji: i pm'd it im not sure we're allowed to share such links (non ubuntu related)	01:16
duan	hello	01:16
willwh	lenshark: also iftop is good :)	01:17
lenshark	hmm. willwh ok will try now	01:17
duan	new one	01:17
marian_	hi all	01:17
MXIIA	willwh, what would you suggest I do after I get the LiveCD to boot?	01:17
lilcyber	MXIIA install it	01:18
willwh	MXIIA: no, don't do that	01:18
willwh	just try mounting the hard disk	01:18
MXIIA	:P lilcyber do you know what the problem is	01:18
mina2	hello has anyone been successful in using a nokia 3g phone as a modem in ubuntu 10.10?	01:18
MXIIA	willwh, what would that have to do with keyboard/mouse input?	01:18
willwh	then I would probably take a look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog	01:18
lilcyber	MXIIA no, and sorry haha.	01:18
lenshark	willwh, i run iftop and got this: "pcap_open_live(eth1): socket: Operation not permitted"	01:18
willwh	lenshark: sudo iftop ;)	01:19
MXIIA	willwh, alright.	01:19
willwh	MXIIA: remember it will be those logs on the mounted disk - not the LiveCD fs :)	01:19
mina2	i addedd the phone (paired it via bluetooth) selected the use phone as a modem and ran a configuration program (gave the apn and phone number) but it doesn't connect	01:19
duan	how uesing liux	01:19
MXIIA	willwh, of course :P	01:20
lenshark	cool, thanks willwh	01:20
willwh	np :)	01:21
lenshark	so i believe that the second column are the sites that my ip is connecting into, right willwh because there are a ton of it right now	01:21
exodus_ms	I have three terminal profiles. I would like to start each profile at startup. Is there a way to autostart each by "title" instead of using the command Gnome-terminal in autostart applications? Using this command only starts one instance of the terminal	01:22
mASOUD_42	mina2: can you take a screenshot? i may be able to help	01:22
cipherboy	has anyone looked into e4rat?	01:22
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Omni\|Work	thune3: Thank you!	01:24
Omni\|Work	bazhang: Yes. Install the 'telnet' command. Though I suppose it would be equally valid to say 'install the telnet executable'.	01:24
KOVU	hey fello ubuntu users	01:25
lilcyber	Hello K0VU	01:25
Tan1208	hi??	01:25
lilcyber	Hey Tan1208	01:25
KOVU	best os evar	01:25
Tan1208	Hi..	01:25
Asahina	Um, I have one thing to say...	01:26
lilcyber	How are you noth? haha	01:26
lilcyber	*both	01:26
Asahina	Ubuntu is awesome	01:26
Asahina	that is what I wanted to say	01:26
lilcyber	Yes it is good sir/mame, well Linux is awesome in general	01:26
KOVU	a lot to be said for a community rather than a coperation	01:26
Asahina	I'm a female, and yes Linus is amazing...	01:27
lilcyber	People support and donate to keep the community alive, then a corporation	01:27
lilcyber	AH ok haha. SOrry about that.	01:27
Tan1208	hello fellaz user...good day and night to all	01:27
Asahina	I changed its look to resemble windows7	01:27
JaUg	Hi, im having problems installing Ubuntu 11.04 64bit on my pc. Ive tried both amd64 version and alternate CD. When i come to partitioning options it shows the entire 2TB as free space even tho im sure that in windows partitioned it to 200GB for windows 40GB for ubuntu and the rest for other files.	01:27
Asahina	bye Tan1208	01:27
JaUg	(im installing from usb)	01:28
KOVU	asahina you have ruined linus with windows 7 look (cringes)	01:28
lilcyber	XD	01:28
Asahina	I'm a new user...	01:29
Asahina	I need to familiarize myself	01:29
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Tan1208	yeah im new then	01:29
KOVU	putting a windows 7 theme on linux is like letting justin bieber and rebecca black have a baby	01:29
MXIIA	Asahina, may I see a screenshot	01:29
MXIIA	to stop the mindpuke	01:29
Guest3086	going crazy with skype not showing any video using logitech quickam. help more than welcome. Using Ubuntu 10.10	01:30
KOVU	yay maverick meercat for the netbook	01:30
Dragin	Linux User Newb here... can anyone tell me if Ubuntu 11.04 has a terminal, or is it all GUI? If it does have a terminal, how do I accwss it?	01:31
Asahina	well, MXIIA ...it's not perfect...since the windows theme hasn't been updated for Ubuntu's current version...	01:31
KOVU	i had that until yesterday when i finally decided to upgrade to natty narwhale	01:31
lilcyber	It has a terminal Dragin	01:31
Asahina	should I upload it online and paste the link here?	01:31
KOVU	i hate the look so i changed it to ubuntu classic	01:31
lilcyber	well you can go to the top left click the logo and search terminal	01:31
mASOUD_42	Dragin: control+alt+T	01:31
MXIIA	Asahina, what theme?	01:32
Asahina	win-7	01:32
Dragin	Thank you so much mASOUD! =	01:32
Dragin	0	01:32
Dragin	=)	01:32
mASOUD_42	;)	01:32
Omni\|Work	'apt-get install apt-file' doesn't seem to work.	01:32
KOVU	wow a heck of a lot of users iin here tonight	01:32
MXIIA	Asahina, http://lifehacker.com/5619064/w7-theme-for-ubuntu-brings-windows-7s-familiar-gui-to-linux ?	01:32
KOVU	guess what os im talking to you from	01:33
Asahina	win-7...right?	01:33
lilcyber	@Omni\|Work you have to be admin	01:33
Asahina	MXIIA: no	01:33
KOVU	dreaded windows 7 (projectile vomits)	01:33
MXIIA	KOVO, vista.	01:33
MXIIA	Windows NT 6.1	01:33
Asahina	MXIIA: I mean yes	01:33
Dragin	Now what command gets me to #?	01:34
mASOUD_42	Drag i think you mean /? cd /	01:34
Dragin	no	01:34
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Dragin	I need su mode so I can do things as root	01:34
bregma	Dragin, use a terminal type sudo?	01:35
Asahina	MXIIA: try googling - "Unbunt - windows7 theme 2011"	01:35
Dragin	we'll see	01:35
bullgard4_	[Natty Server 32 bit] Using the command line, how can I change the default keyboard layout from USA to Germany?	01:35
mASOUD_42	Dragin: su root	01:35
Asahina	I mean - "Unbuntu - windows7 theme 2011"	01:35
Dragin	ok, thanks	01:35
MXIIA	unbuntu?	01:36
Asahina	but it isn't updated yet MXIIA	01:36
Asahina	yeah, I'm using ubuntu	01:36
Asahina	why are you surprised?	01:36
MXIIA	you said "unbuntu"	01:36
Asahina	oh...sorry	01:36
Asahina	lol	01:36
bullgard4_	[Natty Server 64 bit] Using the command line, how can I change the default keyboard layout from USA to Germany?	01:36
KOVU	i take it the 2 == in red mean staff am i correct	01:37
sabaton	bullgard4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale	01:38
Asahina	guys, I came here for another reason: How do you change login background wallpaper?	01:38
judgepg	ls	01:40
judgepg	Hi	01:40
mASOUD_42	Asahina: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/45315/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-linux-login-screen/	01:40
mulder__	need help with logitech quickam with skype on ubuntu 10.10	01:41
Ademan	when I try and run a liveCD after selecting language my monitor goes into standby mode and does not come back. the alternate cd's video output works fine fwiw	01:42
KOVU	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam this might be of help to you	01:43
KOVU	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams	01:44
mulder__	Thanks Kovu, I tried that link and I can't get neither sound or video recognized	01:45
mulder__	Not sure what I am doing wrong or right here.	01:46
jaime	hola	01:46
KOVU	hmm um have you updated to the latest driverers	01:46
mulder__	I have the latest ATI drivers	01:46
lilcyber	Well have to restart brb	01:46
KOVU	ok what webcam is it	01:47
KOVU	i will see if i cant find something	01:47
mulder__	Logitech Quickam/IM connect	01:47
KOVU	ok	01:47
bullgard4_	sabaton: Your article does not mention the word "keyboard" at all. Why did you recommend it to me?	01:48
Asahina	Thanks KOVU ...	01:49
Asahina	wow, it worked	01:49
mulder__	Thank you Kovu	01:49
Asahina	I just wished I could change the login box too	01:49
KOVU	i use a "046d:08d9 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam IM/Connect" on ubuntu 9.04 amd64. the webcam just shows garbage while testing and simply shows nothing in calls. a workaround is to move /usr/bin/skype to /usr/bin/skype.real install lib32v4l-0 via apt-get and create a new /usr/bin/skype with the following content: #!/bin/bash LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype.real after that the webcam works.	01:49
KOVU	#!/bin/bash LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype.real if you paste that in terminal it should fix it	01:50
mulder__	Basically if I go into options/video devices and click on the back window with test in it, nothing shows us	01:50
mulder__	the select webcam shows: USB camera etc...though	01:51
KOVU	have you updated your skype	01:51
mulder__	I have the version from synaptic	01:51
mulder__	2.2.0.35	01:52
mulder__	the window is still black showing nothing Kovu :-(	01:53
KOVU	hmm	01:53
KOVU	im out of ideas anyone else have an idea how to fix the problem	01:54
mASOUD_42	cheese webcam. test if it webcam works. if so somethings wrong with skype	01:55
mulder__	This is driving bananas man I don't know what to do and I don't want to use windows!	01:55
lilcyber	mulder__ what's wrong?	01:56
mulder__	Hello Lil. I don't have any video showing in skype 2.2.0.35	01:56
mulder__	Well I have video showing in cheese.	01:57
lilcyber	Upgrade to the newest one(beta). Video works with it.	01:57
mulder__	I have version 2.2.0.35 is that not the latest on ubuntu?	01:57
lilcyber	Nope.	01:58
mASOUD_42	mulder__: try "gstreamer-properties" meddle with video input there	01:58
lilcyber	The latest is 2.4 I think.	01:58
scottamunga	Hello. I'm trying to connect to my wife's laptop through our network. I can see it under Network in Ubuntu, but when I put in the username and password, it doesn't work. Does anybody know how to verify the username and password in Windows Vista?	01:58
lilcyber	Wait nvm it is 2.2	01:58
bullgard4_	[Natty Server 64 bit] Using the command line, how can I change the default keyboard layout from USA to Germany?	01:58
th0r	mulder__: give me a minute to upload a script for you....should get the webcam working	01:58
lilcyber	@bullgard4 you can change it when you login	01:59
mulder__	Thank you guys I am waiting :-)	01:59
lilcyber	it is the middle option	01:59
th0r	mulder__: http://pastebin.com/5YBu9e97	01:59
th0r	mulder__: make that an executable script and instead of calling skype call that script. It might get the webcam working	01:59
bullgard4_	lilcyber: No. I asked for something else: _command line_	02:00
lilcyber	AH I didn't see that.	02:00
w3bcrawler	is there a way to automatically run a certain command on logout? ie rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions	02:01
Romin	Hi guys, anyone recommend a good GUI for c/c++ development? Ubuntu 11.04.	02:01
w3bcrawler	Eclipse.	02:02
TheEvilPhoenix	Romin: eclipse	02:02
w3bcrawler	It's top notch.	02:02
scottamunga	Hello. I'm trying to connect to my wife's laptop through our network. I can see it under Network in Ubuntu, but when I put in the username and password, it doesn't work. Does anybody know how to verify the username and password in Windows Vista?	02:04
w3bcrawler	usually to have a network between a ubuntu & windows pc, you need to have samba installed on the linux machine	02:05
TheEvilPhoenix	scottamunga: you using Samba?	02:05
scottamunga	TheEvilPhoenix: yes.	02:05
w3bcrawler	scottamunga: are you just trying to transfer files?	02:05
mulder__	@Thor: How do I make that string you sent an executable?	02:05
TheEvilPhoenix	w3bcrawler: can I /query you for about 15 seconds?	02:06
scottamunga	w3bcrawler: yes. I've already set up my wife's computer to access files in Windows, but I can't figure out the reverse. I entered what I thought was her username and password, but Ubuntu didn't accept them.	02:06
w3bcrawler	sure, whatever floats your boat.	02:06
w3bcrawler	i just use openssh and winSCP to save myself the headache of networking with samba	02:06
th0r	mulder__: paste that entire thing into a text file. Call it 'fixed-skype'. then make the file executable (in a terminal type 'chmod a+x fixed-skype'	02:07
th0r	mulder__: then copy it to /usr/local/bin (terminal again....sudo cp fixed-skype /usr/local/bin)	02:07
mulder__	text file=text editor?	02:07
madprops	where can I access inittab to check what runlevel i have as default?	02:07
th0r	mulder__: right...just copy and paste from your web browser to gedit or some such editor	02:08
w3bcrawler	scottamunga: have you tried creating a separate username/password on the windows machine	02:09
canonin	Heya!	02:09
scottamunga	w3bcrawler: The only account is her admin account, which she runs from.	02:09
scottamunga	not very safe probably	02:09
NiCoLaS	How do I kill Update Manage (which is frozen) safely	02:10
w3bcrawler	scottamunga: perhaps you should try setting up a guest account and try with those credentials	02:10
NiCoLaS	"sync; sudo pkill [update manager pid]"?	02:10
w3bcrawler	NiCoLaS: alt-f2, type in xkill, type enter, and click on the frozen window.	02:10
scottamunga	w3bcrawler: I found that in Control Panel right as you said that. Creepy. :)	02:11
scottamunga	I'll try it	02:11
mulder__	@thor: Not sure why but I have this when I put it in the terminal: sudo cp fixed-skype /usr/local/bin	02:11
mulder__	cp: cannot stat `fixed-skype': No such file or directory	02:11
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w3bcrawler	scottamunga: brb!	02:11
NiCoLaS	w3bcrawler: Neat, I didn't know xkill existed.	02:11
w3bcrawler	NiCoLaS: :)	02:11
scottamunga	alright	02:11
NiCoLaS	Thanks.	02:11
canonin	any ob users here?	02:11
th0r	mulder__: did you use sudo ?	02:11
mulder__	ahem ...no oooops	02:12
mulder__	whistling away!	02:12
ddw_music	need some urgent help -- i followed advice to install ubuntu on a usb stick, not as a live install, but a "full" install -- and it overwrote some grub info -- now i can't boot into the systems on my HD -- I just get "error: fd0 cannot get C/H/S values /// grub rescue" what do i do next?	02:12
mulder__	let me try again	02:12
Romin	w3bcrawler and TheEvilPhoenix: I have Eclipse and "C/C++ Developer Tools for Eclipse" from the software center. Eclipse isn't recognizing "#include <iostream>" or any library for that matter.	02:13
mulder__	damn still the same message	02:13
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th0r	mulder__: are you in the directory where you saved the file in gedit?	02:14
Romin	Any ideas as to how I could fix that?	02:15
disse	Problem: home dir encryption after installation, encryption pass 45 signs, sudo/user pass shouldn't be the same	02:15
mulder__	I saved the file on the desktop Thor	02:15
mASOUD_42	mulder__: change the "fixed-skype" with the name of the file you want to move	02:15
th0r	mulder__: ok...then in the terminal type 'cd ~/Desktop' and try the command again	02:15
ddw_music	hi - is anyone there? i need help with a corrupted grub -- hopefully very soon -- i cannot boot into ANYTHING on my computer -- will provide details once someone replies	02:15
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coz_	ddw_music, did you try the #grub channel ? not to push you away , however if no one can help who is online at the moment,, try either # grub or ## linux	02:16
ddw_music	ok	02:17
ddw_music	in the meantime i found a webpage that may help	02:17
coz_	ddw_music, i still tend to "wing" it with grub at this point	02:17
mulder__	man oh man...Ok I typed that command and nothing happens.	02:17
mulder__	why skype is so crap in ubuntu! grrrrr	02:18
th0r	mulder__: attitude gets you nowhere	02:18
wildbat	mulder__: because it belongs to M$ XD	02:19
mulder__	I am just frustrated that's all :-(	02:19
Romin	Lol wildbat	02:19
mulder__	well yes of course	02:19
mulder__	but the cam shows as USB camera (046d:08d9) (/dev/video0)	02:20
mulder__	it works using cheese	02:20
owen1	i need to control a laptop remotely (with graphic). both my laptop and the other one are xubuntu. what app should i install on each laptop?	02:21
wildbat	!vnc \| owen1: VNC server and viewer	02:22
ubottu	owen1: VNC server and viewer: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX	02:22
wildbat	owen1: freenx is nice and fast too but not then same session.	02:23
mulder__	even the microphone shows PulseAudio server (local) but that should be the webcam instead right?	02:23
wildbat	mulder__: if pulse is set to the webcam mic you are fine . i dunno you video thou ;)	02:24
owen1	wildbat: what do u mean 'not the same session'?	02:24
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mulder__	I don't know what else to do apart from using windows for skype and that's a pain really Wildbat!	02:25
wildbat	owen1: it means it have it's own desktop ~ like RDP in wins~	02:26
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wildbat	mulder__: may be you have better luck with wine _Skype then skype for Linux , i have no idea. may be stop using skype there is ton of other chioces.	02:27
mulder__	well most of my contacts use Skype so I am kinda stuck!	02:28
Dean63	Please register your nickname on freenode to chat here. How do I do that????	02:28
rww	!register \| Dean63	02:29
ubottu	Dean63: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	02:29
wildbat	mulder__: or VBOX +win +skype then , a bit overkill :>	02:29
Dean63	thanks	02:29
wildbat	mulder__: if cheese work then your skype should too, may be stick around see if anyone know any good video driver for it .	02:30
elthlan	mulder__: this may help you: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=505131	02:30
owen1	what is the deafult vnc server/client combo in ubunt	02:30
elthlan	mulder__: it has worked for me	02:31
mulder__	I am using a logitech Quickam/IM connect Elthan	02:31
elthlan	yes, but the script may help too	02:32
elthlan	as it is an issue with the lib skype uses	02:32
wildbat	won't harm to try ;)	02:32
elthlan	just paste this in Terminal: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype	02:33
elthlan	and skype may run with the camera enabled	02:33
wildbat	owen1: default ? what you mean by it ? by default ubuntu don't have vnc installed.	02:33
adminewb	is it possible to customize a cpu control fid-vid table, taking effect at boot time, so as to avoid needing a custom configured kernel? certain options are not modularized in a stock kernel, creating a major nuisance for phc	02:34
bazhang	adminewb, phc being what?	02:35
exodus_ms	is there a way to start the terminal at login by using the "title" instead of Gnome-terminal in autostart applications?	02:36
mulder__	Elthlan: I get this in the terminal: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype	02:36
mulder__	ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.	02:36
elthlan	is Skype running?	02:37
elthlan	or is Cheesy running?	02:37
mulder__	nah	02:38
mulder__	None of them	02:38
wildbat	mulder__: do you even have that lib ? ls -al usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so	02:38
mulder__	I get plkenty of GTK warning	02:39
mulder__	I can past the results for you guys if you want to have a look	02:39
bazhang	!enter \| mulder__	02:39
ubottu	mulder__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	02:39
mulder__	http://pastebin.com/YRwbiVj3	02:40
HB	i need help reparing a ntfs windows disk... :/ Error reading $Mft record(s): Input/output error. Remount failed: Input/output error.	02:41
bazhang	hb ##windows , use windows tools for that	02:41
HB	i try but it was taking for ever!!!! 24hours and still was at 12% ... also windows is impossible to use with that disk..	02:42
elthlan	hmm, so not just one error. which skype and ubuntu version do you use?	02:43
mulder__	skype 2.2.0.5 and ubuntu 10.10	02:43
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mulder__	2.2.0.35 sorry	02:43
bazhang	hb this is not the channel for fixing windows disks,	02:43
elthlan	sorry, i use the same version of Skype but fell back to 10.04 for stability on apps.	02:45
HB	thanks bazhang ....	02:45
disse	Problem: home dir encryption after installation, encryption pass 45 signs, sudo/user pass shouldn't be the same	02:45
exodus_ms	how can I add the terminal in "startup applications" by using the "title" instead of Gnome-terminal?	02:45
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mulder__	I fell back from 11.04 to 10.10 for the same reasons :-)	02:45
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mulder__	I couldn't boot into ubuntu at all with my ati card	02:46
w3bcrawler	is there a way to automatically run a certain command on logout? ie rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions	02:46
em	Do any of you have expertise with Drupal?	02:46
bazhang	w3bcrawler, very bad idea to do it on logout	02:47
resc_user_3319	Problem: screwed inux partition, its no longer there grub failed, using rescatux 0.29 grub install failed http://paste.debian.net/125328/	02:47
w3bcrawler	bazhang: well i'm trying to have my x not save session but it does automatically even though the option is unchecked	02:48
w3bcrawler	i'm not sure what else to do	02:48
bazhang	w3bcrawler, thats odd	02:49
w3bcrawler	bazhang: yeah :\|	02:50
owen1	i installed x11vnc on laptop1 and xvnc4viewer on the other. i forward port 9600 on my router into ip of laptop1. when i try to connect from laptop2 i get: "main: unable to connect to host: No route to host (113)"	02:51
owen1	any ideas?	02:51
mulder__	ah well back to windows for skype...it's going to be fun!	02:52
resc_user_3319	PROBLEM: GRUB2 wont install using rescatux 0.29 log is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1819348	02:53
resc_user_3319	log actually is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1819348	02:54
wildbat	owen1: use ip instead and see	02:55
KM0201	mulder__: what probs are you having w/ linux skype?	02:55
ThePub	if I tell dpkg to "--force-all" shouldn't it bypass dependency checks?	02:55
mulder__	@KM0201: I can't have any video/picture/sound detected	02:55
mulder__	I can log in	02:56
wildbat	resc_user_3319: why not use ubuntu LiveCD to reinstall ?	02:56
KM0201	mulder__: ok, does your camera work in guvcview, or cheese?	02:56
w3bcrawler	bazhang: would it be alright to clear ~/.cache/sessions on startup?	02:56
mulder__	It works in Cheese yes	02:56
KM0201	ok.	02:56
bazhang	w3bcrawler, that would be the much preferred way, yes	02:56
KM0201	hang on a sec	02:56
mulder__	Ok KM	02:56
w3bcrawler	k ty :) gonna go lookup how to do that brb	02:57
resc_user_3319	wildbat: i cant get either an 11.04 live cd or usb to fully boot or install	02:57
nightcrawler99	hi everyone	02:57
wildbat	resc_user_3319: how you install your ubuntu then :>	02:57
goddard	I am trying to execute a file that i can see and modify but cannot execute it because it says it doesn't exist	02:57
bazhang	goddard, to accomplish what exactly	02:58
goddard	bazhang: huh?	02:58
owen1	wildbat: i think the problem was a password. trying again	02:58
rww	goddard: chmod +x file. If that doesn't work, check that it's the right architecture (32-bit vs. 64-bit)	02:58
goddard	bazhang: i have a file that exists but cant execute because it says it doesn't exist	02:58
owen1	wildbat: after i run 'x11vnc -storepasswd' it's not running anymore...not sure why	02:58
resc_user_3319	wildbat: i installed ubuntu alongside win7, accidently deleted linux partition from windows, now i cant get anything to fuly boot	02:58
goddard	rww: i believe those things are all correct	02:59
owen1	wildbat: it lets me type the password twice and than the program exits.	02:59
KM0201	mulder__: can i PM you?	02:59
goddard	rww: this is so strange	02:59
mulder__	Sure KM	02:59
anxiety	when im using wired internet I cant load any webpages in browsers or connect to msn facebook etc via pidgin, however I can connect to q3 engine based game servers fine, and pinging servers works fine. everything works fine using wireless. anyone have any ideas whats up with that?	03:00
wildbat	resc_user_3319: so you deleted a partition ?~ try undelete it ~ with testdisk . if not working pop in windows setup CD and fixmbr ,so you have atleast a windows to use . then figure out reinstall ubuntu later.	03:00
wildbat	owen1: if you use ssh tunnelling~ you don't need passworded vnc , vnc password is never been safe anyway .	03:02
Miram	Where do people normally extract and install tarballs in Ubuntu?	03:02
resc_user_3319	wildbat: ill try testdisk, but i will not have a win7 recovery disk for "8-10" business days	03:02
owen1	wildbat: even without a password it's not working. i give it an ip (without the port,right?)	03:02
Redb3ard	miram in terminal	03:03
Miram	Sorry, I mean to what directory, Redb3ard.	03:03
bazhang	Miram, what application	03:04
w3bcrawler	is the only way to add a command to bootup creating a perl script and dropping it in the /etc/init.d directory?	03:04
wildbat	owen1: on server : x11vnc -display :0 -many -localhost then on client create a ssh tunnel 5900 to 5900 then just vncviewer localhost	03:04
Redb3ard	Miram, if you're installing a program it will usually create it's own directories	03:04
Miram	Some task-manager application, guys	03:04
owen1	wildbat: ok. trying	03:04
bazhang	Miram, whats the package name please	03:04
wildbat	owen1: if you just different port other then 5900 you have to tell it	03:04
Redb3ard	Miram, Trus baz, he knows what he's talking about	03:04
Miram	Oh sorry, Doit_for_linux_2_3_19_en.tar.gz	03:05
goddard	now one has ever had this problem?	03:05
owen1	wildbat: why localhost on the server/client	03:05
owen1	wildbat: also what do u mean by 'creat tunnel'?	03:06
Xptical	hi all, is there a channel for ubuntu servers?	03:06
owen1	Xptical: ubuntu-server	03:06
Xptical	thanks	03:06
wildbat	owen1: cause you tunnelled it,so anything connect on 5900 on client will go to ther server 5900 thr ssh . ssh -n -L 5900:localhost:5900 (so secure ) :>	03:07
nightcrawler99	i have a couple of questions about ubuntu	03:08
owen1	wildbat: i run this on the server: x11vnc -display :0 -many -localhost what should i do on the client?	03:08
Redb3ard	that's what we're here for	03:08
owen1	wildbat: i appologize if u have to repeat yourself. i didn't understand you.	03:09
lilcyber	What are they nightcrawler99?	03:09
nightcrawler99	every time i restart my laptop i have to reconnect my wireless internet	03:09
nightcrawler99	how can i fix that	03:09
lilcyber	By that you mean what?	03:09
w3bcrawler	is the only way to add a command to bootup creating a script and dropping it in the /etc/init.d directory?	03:10
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Redb3ard	imo, it sounds like a driver issue	03:10
th0r	nightcrawler99: if you want it to connect at bootup you need to configure the network in /etc/network/interfaces instead of using network-manager	03:10
anxiety	nightcrawler click on the wireless icon, go edit connections click wireless then auto (your router) edit connect automatically	03:11
nightcrawler99	ok let me try that	03:11
wildbat	owen1: ssh -n -L 5900:localhost:5900 <the server ip>	03:12
wildbat	owen1: then vncveiwer on localhost.	03:12
owen1	wildbat: awesome	03:13
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nightcrawler99	also whats a good p2p for ubuntu like mp3 rocket	03:14
bazhang	!p2p > nightcrawler99	03:14
ubottu	nightcrawler99, please see my private message	03:14
SexyBoBo	Ok installed nvidia drivers and now it is telling me "Driver active but not currently in use"	03:16
anxiety	sexybobo did you install it through restricted driver manager? if so have you restarted?	03:16
SexyBoBo	Yes and Yes	03:16
anxiety	what do you get back from lsmod \| grep nvidia ?	03:17
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anxiety	sexybobo what do you get back from lsmod \| grep nvidia ?	03:18
SexyBoBo	bobo@GLaDOS:~$ lsmod \| grep nvidia	03:19
SexyBoBo	nvidia 10709116 72	03:19
anxiety	ok	03:19
owen1	wildbat: when i try to nunnel from the client i get: Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.	03:19
owen1	ssh: connect to host 6.172.9.207 port 22: No route to host	03:19
anxiety	sexybobo, what about cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf	03:20
Redb3ard	anxiety, please use pm	03:20
wildbat	owen1: your server isn't installed ssh-server?	03:20
Pat201	what does it mean when terminal tells me to run something as root	03:20
bazhang	Redb3ard, ?	03:20
bazhang	Pat201, use sudo	03:20
Redb3ard	bazhang, ?	03:20
theadmin	Redb3ard: sudo COMMAND	03:21
bazhang	Redb3ard, no need to use PM here	03:21
theadmin	Redb3ard: Example: sudo rmmod wl	03:21
SexyBoBo	Section "Device"Identifier"Default Device"Option"NoLogo""True" EndSection	03:21
wrtiii	Is there a command to give me the actually hdd size?	03:22
wildbat	wrtiii: sudo fdisk -l	03:22
anxiety	ok sexybobo, that file is missing information :S	03:22
theadmin	Redb3ard: You can as well run "sudo -i" to get the root shell	03:22
w3bcrawler	is the only way to add a command to bootup creating a script and dropping it in the /etc/init.d directory?	03:22
lilcyber	yes	03:23
Redb3ard	theadmin, oooh.. but i need to leave root	03:23
theadmin	Redb3ard: "exit", then.	03:23
javier	hello, i just got natty installed, one problem. the monitor comes up as a samsung 72 inch. my tv is is 60. how do i change it	03:23
lilcyber	sudo nano /etc/init.d	03:23
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Not really, you can as well add it to root's crontab @reboot (but that doesn't always work out)	03:23
Redb3ard	theadmin, but it logs in as root by default	03:23
lilcyber	w3bcrawler	03:23
theadmin	Redb3ard: That's nonsense and won't happen in Ubuntu.	03:23
lilcyber	did I answer your question?	03:24
Redb3ard	theadmin, i think our wires are crossed. i'm sorry	03:24
wrtiii	Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table ???	03:24
anxiety	sexybobo, can you run sudo nvidia-xconfig	03:24
w3bcrawler	lilcyber yes, but isn't init.d a directory	03:24
wrtiii	Disk /dev/dm-0: 151.3 GB, 151326294016 bytes	03:24
theadmin	Redb3ard: You can't log in as root in Ubuntu because there IS NO ROOT PASSWORD.	03:24
anxiety	sexybobo, then run cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and post back here	03:24
theadmin	Redb3ard: What does "echo $USER" give you?	03:24
owen1	wildbat: got it. i need to install both client and sever vnc on the SERVER!	03:24
owen1	wildbat: let me try again	03:24
Redb3ard	my username	03:25
SexyBoBo	the nvidia-xconfig gives me this error VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.	03:25
lilcyber	Well you can sud mv whatever /etc/init.d	03:25
lilcyber	*sudo	03:25
resc_user_3319	wildbat: testdisk was unable to undelete the partition, is there some other way of reinstaling grub2 before getting a win7 disk and starting al over?	03:25
w3bcrawler	lilcyber, theadmin: basically i'm trying to clear the ~/.cache/sessions directory on bootup so my sessions will stop saving (yes, the option to save sessions on logout is unchecked)	03:26
anxiety	sexybobo, weird its meant to write that line :S	03:26
w3bcrawler	and trying to find the easiest way to do so	03:26
SexyBoBo	xorg.conf is now http://paste.ubuntu.com/660228/	03:26
anxiety	sexybobo oh yup that looks good, hit alt+prtscreen+k now	03:27
theadmin	w3bcrawler: this line will do, in /etc/crontab: @reboot rm -r ~/.cache/sessions/*	03:27
anxiety	sexybobo, that'l restart your xserver and hopefully load the nvidia driver	03:27
lilcyber	Well can you cd into it and purge those files?	03:27
adzy	anyone know why i get key ring password prompts 3 times everytime i load ubuntu??? cant i set it up to just enter one password>	03:27
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Err, wrong	03:27
adzy	?	03:27
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Not ~, rather /home/your-username	03:27
wildbat	resc_user_3319: you have to have LiveCD, then make the partition (maybe /boot is needed in case of dual boot), then install grub	03:27
w3bcrawler	theadmin: so @reboot rm -r /home/myusername/.cache/sessions/*	03:28
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Pretty much so	03:28
w3bcrawler	appended to the end of /etc/contab	03:28
adzy	!keyring password	03:28
w3bcrawler	crontab*	03:28
xangua	adzy: automatic log in enabled¿	03:28
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Yeah, it'll execute the command at start of anacrond	03:28
adzy	xangua, in users?	03:29
w3bcrawler	theadmin: excellent, thank you, i'm gonna give that a shot. <3	03:29
bobo	Still says driver not active	03:29
theadmin	w3bcrawler: xD	03:29
wildbat	resc_user_3319: or you can have your bootCD's grub to chainload windows up ~then execute fixmbr or bootsect to fix booting of windows.	03:29
theadmin	w3bcrawler: No problem.	03:29
WXZ	how come gparted can't create a logical ntfs partition?	03:29
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adzy	where do i change automatic log in?	03:30
lilcyber	adzy login screen I presume	03:30
WXZ	within an extended partition	03:30
theadmin	WXZ: Sure you have ntfsprogs installed?	03:30
anxiety	sexybobo, can you type sudo apt-get install mesa-utils, then glxgears, it'll test whether you have 3d accelleration from the nvidia driver or not	03:30
adzy	lilcyber, I dont have a log ing screen it just auto log ins	03:30
owen1	wildbat: something weird happens after i tunnel. i see greeting that tells me i am on the server, but the prompt is showing the client username, and it actually not on the server. is that normal?	03:30
xangua	adzy: on user & group preferences	03:31
WXZ	theadmin: no, I don't... I have ntfs-3g. I thought that was enough	03:31
adzy	found it	03:31
seclm193	how would i auto mount my ntfs partition in natty?	03:31
adzy	;)	03:31
WXZ	theadmin: fixing now	03:31
wildbat	owen1: oh ~ drop then -n option (i copy directly from my script ;p)	03:31
owen1	wildbat: ok	03:31
resc_user_3319	wildbat: how do i get my live cd's grub to chainload. thanks for the help	03:31
nightcrawler99	is their a ctrl alt del for ubuntu that stops programs?	03:31
javier	anyine know how i can change the monitor from 70 inch to 65 inch	03:32
goku87	how can i sync an htc evo with ubuntu?	03:32
theadmin	seclm193: In /etc/crontab, "/dev/sdz1 /media/ntfs ntfs-3g defaults"	03:32
wildbat	resc_user_3319: you have LIVECD? boot it and hold shift you should see grub menu	03:32
theadmin	seclm193: Err	03:32
theadmin	seclm193: /etc/fstab	03:32
theadmin	seclm193: Apologies for that, messing stuff up	03:32
nightcrawler99	no live cd	03:32
xangua	goku87: sync what exactyl¿ an android device normaly Syncs with your google account & services	03:33
seclm193	theadmin: it's ok, so i just edit my /etc/fstab and add the device location and mount locaton	03:33
princej88	nightcrawler99, try xkill -all in terminal. your cursor will turn into an 'x' and then you can just click on the program that you want to close	03:33
goku87	yea but im trying to sync the music playlists and all that..also trying to back it up	03:33
nightcrawler99	ok	03:34
resc_user_3319	wildbat:when i boot ubuntu 11.04 live and shift i get run live, install, memtest etc. how to i get to grub	03:34
goku87	i have a macbook and htc's are not compatible with os x	03:34
seclm193	theadmin: i guess my main question, do i just add that to the end of the file?	03:34
anxiety	or better idea sexybobo, once you've got that package installed, just run glxinfo what do you get back?	03:34
WarOp	Does anyone know a good program to rip a Dvd to iso image, trying to rip Backtrack4 dvd to harddrive, I've tried dvdrip but seems like its only for video dvds	03:34
SexyBoBo	34167 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6833.385 FPS guessing the driver is just lying to me	03:34
bitplane	there's a command line app "quote", but it doesn't show up in "which quote" any idea how i find out what/where it is?	03:34
owen1	wildbat: i get: vncviewer: unable to open display ""	03:34
owen1	wildbat: btw, my server is running with awesome wm. no gnome/kde/xfce	03:35
anxiety	warop ubuntu has a built in cd copying program, use that but tell it to write to file instead of another disk	03:35
wildbat	resc_user_3319: it is grub :> ~ you can press c to drop to grub prompt	03:35
nightcrawler99	thanks for the help everyone	03:35
WarOp	Is it k3b	03:35
seclm193	theadmin: how do i fine what partition is the ntfs partition	03:35
resc_user_3319	wildbat; thanks	03:35
csdserver	sudo fdisk -l	03:35
csdserver	@ seclm193	03:36
WarOp	I'll check out my burners and see if they have a option for that	03:36
WarOp	main one i use is k3b	03:36
WarOp	Thanks anxiety	03:36
wildbat	owen1: it shouldn't have anything to do with WM ~	03:36
seclm193	csdserver: thx	03:37
SexyBoBo	anxiety, The glxinfo gives me a whole lot of stuff but keeps mentioning nvidia and the glxgears was giving me 6833 fps i am guessing the additional driver app is just incorrect	03:37
anastasis	Does anyone know a room where I can get help with SSH. I am trying to setup SSH between an Ubuntu 11.04 laptop to a Slackware 2.6.37.6.	03:37
anastasis	No one is in any of the rooms	03:37
anxiety	sexybobo, yea it seems like everythings working	03:37
goku87	how do i turn on the launcher menu?	03:37
wildbat	resc_user_3319: you know how to chainload from here,right or you need a walkthru?	03:37
KingFisher	Hello...I am using Ubuntu on an Asus Netbook.	03:38
SexyBoBo	TY for your help that mesa tool package looks like it will be helpful in diagnosing future problems	03:38
seclm193	csdserver: after changing fstab, do i need to do something to enact the changes	03:38
anxiety	sexybobo, yea it can be quite useful :)	03:38
anastasis	Does anyone know a room where I can get help with SSH. I am trying to setup SSH between an Ubuntu 11.04 laptop to a Slackware 2.6.37.6.	03:38
w3bcrawler	theadmin: it's still saving the session :O	03:39
wrtiii	I am going to add a 2nd 160gb hdd to my server to be used for keeping a current clone of the 1st disk. Is there anything I should be aware of before shutting down and installing the new disk. Does it work more or less like "plug and play" or will I have to do some fancy linux stuff to get it setup?	03:39
anxiety	when im using wired internet I cant load any webpages in browsers or connect to msn facebook etc via pidgin, however I can connect to q3 engine based game servers fine, and pinging servers works fine. everything works fine using wireless. anyone have any how i can get wired to work properly?	03:39
owen1	wildbat: in the vnc log i see: The VNC desktop is: localhost:1 PORT=5901	03:39
owen1	wildbat: not sure why it's 5901	03:40
javier	downloaded ati catalyst, and the desktop is too big still. can't see the cairo dock or the menu bar. how do i resize	03:40
WarOp	anxiety: Figured it out, the way you told me Thanks didnt know burners could do that :)	03:40
aroman	javier: have you opened up the Monitors app and changed the resolution?	03:40
KingFisher	when I boot up on my Netbook using Ubuntu I get generic messages like "Problem on page table 1" and some stuff about the battery.	03:40
anxiety	np warop :)	03:41
KingFisher	I am having battery issues on my Ubuntu netbook and I cant use the netbook with the battery anymore	03:41
KingFisher	Is this something inherent wrong with my software/battery	03:41
javier	resolution is correct at 1920x1080. its the size is too big	03:41
wildbat	owen1: you start the vnc twice may be . killall x11vnc	03:41
KingFisher	or is it something I can fix with a fresh install	03:41
aroman	javier: "the size"?	03:41
anastasis	KingFisher: lookup power regression issue with Ubuntu...although your problem sounds serious	03:41
javier	it was recognized as a 72 inch display, its really a 65 inch	03:42
KingFisher	Thanks for pointing me in the right direction anastasis	03:42
joint2k	does ubuntu need a boot partition?	03:43
rww	joint2k: no	03:43
aroman	joint2k: not a discrete one, no.	03:43
csdserver	sorry seclm193 - i'm not sure what you were trying to do	03:43
seclm193	csdserver: auto mount ntfs partitions	03:43
joint2k	why not?	03:44
Redb3ard	every time i boot up my computer (with reFit) it still loads the grub bootloader and i have to select ubuntu again.. any way to stop this?	03:44
javier	dropped resolution to 1776x1000, and its a little too small. my windows 7 on the same machine uses 1920x1080 and i can see the whole desktop	03:44
vanquish349	i think my brother has put some software on my computer that lets him take control of my computer is there a way to check it and possibly remove it	03:45
javier	whats the best way to correct?	03:45
csdserver	just chown the directory's mount point, create the directory if you haven't, and reboot. who was helping you before?	03:45
Redb3ard	javier, i have the same problem. i run mine at 1920x1080 and the loss is really frustrating	03:45
Romin	Hi guys. I have g++ installed and trying to compile a simple c++ program, yet the terminal acts as if I do not have g++.	03:46
Romin	Can anybody help?	03:46
vanquish349	what is zeitgeist	03:46
Romin	Running ubuntu 11.04.	03:46
theadmin	Romin: Is g++ in your $PATH?	03:46
aroman	Romin: "it acts like it"?	03:46
javier	is there a config or something that can be change to like 1900x1060	03:46
owen1	wildbat: you were right. now it's running on 5900 and localhost:0. i still get the same message: vncviewer: unable to open display ""	03:46
owen1	wildbat: is there any log i can tail?	03:46
aroman	vanquish349: an software program that tracks your activity	03:46
rww	vanquish349: a program included in Ubuntu that keeps track of which files and programs are used and uses that information when you're searching for things in Unity.	03:46
aroman	vanquish349: not for malicious purposes though	03:46
vanquish349	ok	03:46
Redb3ard	aroman, yet lol	03:47
aroman	Redb3ard: :P	03:47
javier	is there a known issue with using ubuntu on widescreen tvs	03:47
csdserver	they look awesome?	03:47
wildbat	owen1: you start the vncveiwer from client not inside the ssh ~	03:47
Romin	theadmin: how can I check?	03:47
owen1	wildbat: oh	03:47
theadmin	Romin: Well, how did you install g++?	03:47
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Redb3ard	Javier,, i don't know. i absolutely love mu ubuntu gui on my big screen but not being able to see the window ctrls at the top and bottoms of the screen is freustrating	03:48
Romin	sudo apt-get install g++	03:48
owen1	wildbat: works! thank you	03:48
theadmin	Romin: Well that's odd then	03:48
wildbat	owen1: ^^	03:49
theadmin	Romin: Try "sudo apt-get install build-essential"	03:49
Romin	Yes, I already installed that as well	03:49
aroman	theadmin: maybe he's running into trouble since g++ needs to be escaped?	03:49
aroman	the command I mean	03:49
theadmin	aroman: + is not a special character in Bash	03:49
aroman	it isn't?	03:49
rww	nope	03:49
aroman	O.o	03:49
javier	agreed. thats why i am looking for a config file or some other way to change the monitor size. before i installed ati the system said the display was a 72 inch tv. its not and that is what i believe is causing the issue	03:49
Romin	build-essential is already the newest version.	03:49
anxiety	romin, what do you get back at the command line if you type g++ --help ?	03:50
aroman	Oh I just learned something new about bash. I didn't realize you could escape ANY character. (i.e /s/u/d/o)	03:50
theadmin	aroman: The following are: \| & ; ( ) < > space tab \|\| && ;; \| newline ! case do done elif else esac fi for function if in select then until while {} time [[ ]]	03:50
Romin	The same message I get when I try to compile a .cpp: The program 'g++' can be found in the following packages: g++ pentium-builder	03:50
aroman	Romin: sudo dpkg -s g++ ?	03:51
wildbat	owen1: ssh and vnc are the best remote tools ^^ ~you don't even have to start vnc-server from server, you can start x11vnc from the ssh then just connect with vncviewer :>	03:51
Redb3ard	theadmin, they are what?	03:51
aroman	Romin: s`udo dpkg -s g++ \| grep -i status` would be what	03:51
aroman	Redb3ard: characters that need escaping in BASH	03:51
Romin	http://pastebin.com/rbNLPR5n	03:51
theadmin	aroman: Bash special words / operators, yeah	03:52
aroman	Romin: that's really odd	03:52
Redb3ard	i'm sorry, what is escaping?	03:52
aroman	Redb3ard: basically just a way of telling something that you mean to use the non-special form of the character.	03:52
aroman	because those characters mean special things to bash	03:52
Redb3ard	gotcha	03:52
Romin	I had the same problem for gcc and somebody resolved my problem. The person fixed my gcc problem with this command: sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc && sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.5 /usr/bin/gcc	03:53
aroman	Romin: O.o it's doubly strange that you've had this issue before	03:53
anxiety	have you tried: sudo rm /usr/bin/g++ && sudo ln -s /usr/bin/g++-4.5 /usr/bin/g++ then?	03:53
Romin	I actually just transitioned from windows to linux.	03:54
endip	Since network manager isn't working right, I had to manually set up my network configuration. Now Ubuntu Software Center doesn't think I'm connected to a network and wont download reviews, or screenshots. It installs software find though. Any thoughts on how I can fix this issue?	03:54
aroman	Romin: that command should work identically if you replace gcc with g++	03:54
Romin	Ah, okay I will try anxiety and aroman.	03:54
aroman	anxiety: ah you beat me too it :P	03:54
vanquish349	what is dconf-tools	03:54
anxiety	haha soz aroman :D	03:54
aroman	vanquish349: some software for viewing/editing dconf settings	03:55
theadmin	vanquish349: dconf is a configuration mechanism in Gnome3, replacement of outdated gconf.	03:55
vanquish349	ok	03:55
vanquish349	my computer just got shutdown is there a way i could see what software he is using to do it	03:55
aroman	vanquish349: honestly, it seems most likely that he just SSH'd into your bo	03:56
aroman	box*	03:56
vanquish349	is there a way to stop it	03:56
aroman	vanquish349: change your passwords? or `sudo apt-get remove openssh-server` to remove the software	03:56
aroman	assuming that's how he's doing it.	03:57
Redb3ard	would port forwarding prevent him from being able to get in?	03:58
javier	any help with changing the size of the display (not resolution)?	03:59
rww	vanquish349: run "sudo ufw enable", then "sudo ufw status". If you see anything other than "Status: active" in response to the second command, pastebin it.	03:59
JZApples	When adding the partition that my OS is installed on in fstab should I just use defaults for the options?	03:59
Romin	Thanks guys, it worked. (Well, I am not getting the error anymore, atleast)	03:59
vanquish349	rww: nothing else	04:00
aroman	Romin: symlinking?	04:00
rww	vanquish349: you should be good to go, then	04:00
Roasted	Anybody know how to set deja dup so it runs every day, but once a week it does a FULL Backup?	04:00
aroman	Redb3ard: I assumed this was on LAN	04:00
vanquish349	rww: he can still get on	04:00
Redb3ard	aroman, that makes more sense	04:01
theadmin	JZApples: Most of the time that's just fine	04:02
Romin	Well I am testing simple file input. main.cpp:14:14: error: variable ‘std::ifstream ifs’ has initializer but incomplete type. Also main.cpp:20:9: error: ‘exit’ was not declared in this scope.	04:02
Romin	http://pastebin.com/TiqJCzis	04:02
theadmin	Romin: wtf is exit()? C++ doesn't have that	04:03
theadmin	Romin: just "return 1;"	04:03
aroman	Romin: I'm not a c++ guy, but don't you mean `return`?	04:03
Romin	main is of type int, so I need to return an int.	04:03
aroman	Romin: that's definitely valid Python syntax though xD	04:03
Romin	Hmm theadmin, I'll try.	04:03
aroman	Romin: we're talking about the method, not the datatype.	04:03
w3bcrawler	perl vs python for sysadmin ; does it all come down to preference?	04:04
aroman	w3bcrawler: very very offtopic.	04:04
theadmin	w3bcrawler: Mostly, Perl is ugly though	04:04
Redb3ard	webcrawler, echo theadmin	04:04
w3bcrawler	how is sysadmin offtopic?	04:05
aroman	you're talking about choices in programming languages	04:05
aroman	this is about support for Ubuntu :P	04:05
Redb3ard	lol	04:05
Redb3ard	come on	04:05
* theadmin is a Ruby fan		04:05
Redb3ard	he wasn't preventing anone being helped :D	04:06
Romin	Ah, I see what you are talking about. I've used exit before in visual studio with no problem.	04:06
aroman	yeah I was being a bit overzelous	04:06
w3bcrawler	so technically, it's offtopic for #perl, #python, and #ubuntu	04:06
Romin	But yes, that gets rid of that last error.	04:06
* Redb3ard 's lass wears a Python		04:06
Romin	The first one remains.	04:06
aroman	w3bcrawler: yeah i didn't mean to be rude, I was just trying to avoid a flamewar xD	04:07
w3bcrawler	haha no its' cool it's just weird how it works :P cuz of the weird mix of py/pl/nix	04:07
JZApples	When adding the partition that my OS is installed on in fstab should I just use defaults for the options?	04:07
Redb3ard	is there an official offtopic-offtopic?	04:07
w3bcrawler	#ubuntu-offtopic-offtopic?	04:07
Redb3ard	#lo	04:08
w3bcrawler	g'night peepz, thanks for your help today!	04:08
wildbat	JZApples: if it is / , you'd better use errors=remount-ro	04:10
csdserver	anyone have a clue whats going on in this output: http://pastebin.com/LHbEgqmj (xhost + added, ssh -X session)	04:10
csdserver	the folder in question is a mounted ext4 partition	04:12
JZApples	wildbat, should / be the mountpoint? how do I know what that should be for sure. That's what I was going to put, but now I"m questioning it. I'm new to modifying fstab and want to make sure i do it right	04:12
Renierius	Alright, hey people, got somewhat of a newb question here but.. I keep getting "PHP [2] mkdir(): No such file or directory", I'm trying to configure a website, was referring the installer to /var/www as the directory for the FTP. Do you guys see any clues to what I might be doing wrong? Am I handing out the wrong directory?	04:14
wildbat	JZApples: if you ls it , / hould have etc bin usr dev boot lib sbin proc var ......	04:14
JZApples	wildbat, it does. Thanks a lot man. I hope you're around if I ask more questions. I've been trying to do this for days and am really nervous. Read like 10 articles on it, but still kind of sweating.	04:16
csdserver	renierius - is the directory created and do you have permission to read/write?	04:16
javier	am i stuck with only changing the resolution or can i change the monitor size somehow?	04:16
T0X\|C	anyone use wbar with ubuntu? It looks awesome. I installed it but when I run it via terminal it says "Using Super bar" but I don't see anything	04:17
Dulak	Renierius: /var/www is owned by root by default afaik, you probably want to create a new document root under /var/www, and chown that new dir to the user you are ftping as.	04:17
Renierius	The directory exists, yes, and I had assumed that I did have these permissions.. do you suggest trying to chown the directory?	04:17
Renierius	Ah, yes, thank you for the pointer!	04:17
em	Does anyone here enjoy making websites or working with drupal?	04:17
Renierius	Going to try that.	04:18
wildbat	JZApples: lol ~ what you are trying to do messing about?	04:18
Dulak	I don't think anybody enjoys working with drupal...	04:18
wrtiii	Ok, So I just added a new hdd to my system. Start machine and boots to black screen and hangs, reboot and boots to grub loader and sits there until I press enter. boots to login. I am able to login with my creditentials but nowI attempt to do anything such as sudo or even shutdown it returns -bash: sudo: command not found. Rebooted the system and It took 3 more reboots to get it to load again	04:20
wrtiii	to the grub loader but machine will not fully startup as it did before the new hdd.	04:20
IAmNotThatGuy	Dulak, It depends. Some peeps really enjoy working with drupal as the security is good with it	04:20
JZApples	wildbat, Shouldn't all my drives be listed in this file? Everywhere I've read it says they should. ATM, I only have swap and floppy in there.	04:20
zelda	can someone assist me in getting my HDMI working?	04:20
aroman	JZApples: in where?	04:20
zelda	lspci doesnt detect it.	04:20
Dulak	IAmNotThatGuy: Really? They get a LOT of security alerts for something 'good with security' imo.	04:20
wildbat	JZApples: it should really .... new install?	04:20
JZApples	aroman, fstab	04:21
aroman	JZApples: yeah it doesn't have everything	04:21
IAmNotThatGuy	Dulak, I am not into site designing these days. but in the past, it ws okay, when compared with others. dunno now :P	04:21
aroman	JZApples: some stuff is handled by GIO and is out of there	04:21
JZApples	wildbat, new install and I've made massive changes with all my drives since then.	04:21
Renierius	Dulak, I chown'd the directory now, but it's still giving off the same error, what's it you meant with "create a new document root"?	04:22
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, try creating another account and try	04:22
JZApples	aroman, but won't it run better with everything in there? I don't know, only been working with Ubuntu 11.04 for a few weeks.	04:22
aroman	JZApples: well, you're basically talking about the difference between mounting statically at boot and mounting dynamically with nautilus or whatever	04:23
aroman	so if those drives never change, sure, use fstab	04:23
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: creating another account.. ?	04:23
Dulak	Renierius: your web server has to point to a document root directory as the root of the website, that is the dir you need to be working with, and should be owned by the same user you are ftping as, usually	04:23
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, another user*	04:23
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: what is that going to do? and even so how would I do that when anything I type tells me command not found ? All I did was shutdown the system, plug in a new sata drive and turn the system back on.. ?	04:24
wrtiii	Is there some procedure in installing a new hdd I am missing for linux?	04:25
JZApples	aroman, well this is my file server with two different RAID setups connected. I want to make sure it mounts properly and sets up the shares if I need to reboot. But if it just automatically does that and editing this file is pointless then I won't.	04:25
aroman	JZApples: seeing as you want to use it as a fileserver i'd say go with fstab	04:25
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, try without sudo to chmod and other actions	04:25
aroman	if we were talking about external HDs I'd say leave it alone	04:25
IAmNotThatGuy	I think you are in as a root aaccount	04:26
Renierius	Dulak: Well.. wouldn't that be /var/www right now then? I'm working out of that one and I just chown'd it, but it didn't seem to change anything.	04:26
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: I cannot even use shutdown or reboot commands	04:26
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, what version are you using?	04:26
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: and no it's logging me in as my created user. becuase I tried to sudo to root and it gave me the command not found thng	04:27
wrtiii	11.04 Server	04:27
Dulak	Renierius: that depends on your web server config. None of my websites use /var/www as a docroot. I tend to do something like /var/www/domain.com as the docroot, with that folder owned by the user. I have no idea how you are configured.	04:27
fizy[laptop]	im trying to ssh from my laptop to my desktop, but my laptop is saying that either its a man in the middle attack, or the host key has changed. i know for a fact that its not an attack. if i sudo it however, it works fine. is there any way to force ssh to re-key my desktop?	04:29
Flannel	Renierius: /var/www is the default document root, yes. www-data is the user that apcahe runs as, so in order to serve anything, it needs to be readable by www-data (and, if PHP is creating files, writable too). FTP is entirely different, but you still need to make sure you have the proper permissions to write there as your FTP user.	04:29
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wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: I just removed the shutdown removed the hdd and rebooted with the original config and now it boots to a grub loader screen and just sits there...	04:30
Renierius	Alright, I'll give that a try, thank you, Dulak.	04:30
Flannel	fizy[laptop]: The better way would be to just get your laptop to accept the new key as valid	04:30
Dulak	fizy[laptop]: edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the line that has the key for the host you are having issues with, it should readd next time you connect with the current key	04:30
fizy[laptop]	Flannel: how would i do that?	04:30
wildbat	fizy[laptop]: coz your IP changed ~ remove the file in ~/.ssh/known_hosts	04:31
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, you have a liveCD?	04:31
fizy[laptop]	Dulak: there are many lines. how do i know which one to remove?	04:31
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, I Have no Idea why you removed shutdown :[	04:31
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: one of these usb sticks around here should be but who knows which one :P	04:31
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, lol :P	04:31
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wrtiii	removed shutdown...	04:32
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wrtiii	oh lol	04:32
Dulak	fizy[laptop]: the hostname is usually the last thing on the line	04:32
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, you upgraded the OS?	04:32
wrtiii	the grub loader is giving me an option for recovery mode already	04:32
JZApples	In fstab, what is the proc line for?	04:32
fizy[laptop]	Dulak: nope. its just gibberish	04:33
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, you upgraded the OS?	04:33
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, if so, then http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744522	04:33
wrtiii	ok	04:33
wrtiii	will look now	04:33
IAmNotThatGuy	coz he re-installed. he got the same issue maybe	04:33
aroman	JZApples: not to sound RTFM, but `man fstab`	04:33
wrtiii	How the hell does connecting a single sata hdd cause this much trouble?	04:33
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vanquish349	there is someone taking control of my computer(i think it is my brother). i have tried a few things to stop it but no luck would anyone be able to help me sort it ou	04:34
vanquish349	out*	04:34
Dulak	fizy[laptop]: then delete them all, you'll have to ok whenever you connect again but it's a small price to pay. Also, it's at the end of the line, and the hostname is always there, unless you force it not to be when you create a key. You would have to go out of your way for it not to be there.	04:34
aroman	vanquish349: hold on, why don't you just talk to your brother about it?	04:34
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: How is that forum post helpful?	04:34
JZApples	aroman, thanks dawg	04:35
vanquish349	aroman: because i did and he hit me	04:35
JZApples	aroman, RTFM?	04:35
aroman	JZApples: "read the fine manual" except fine is usually another four letter word beginning with F :P	04:35
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, if you have upgraded, someone already had the same problem. try sudo -i and see whether it wirks. Or else have to report	04:35
JZApples	aroman, rofl	04:35
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: It's not just sudo though. It is shutdown, restart, fdisk, df, ifconfig and every other command I can think of with the exception of logout	04:36
IAmNotThatGuy	OMG	04:36
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: How can connecting a single hdd booting, then removing it and rebooting cause such a problem.. The system was working 100% before this	04:37
needhelp1	using rsync, sent 312251 bytes received 2451 bytes 629404.00 bytes/sec	04:37
needhelp1	total size is 70048220607 speedup is 222585.88 (DRY RUN)	04:37
needhelp1	... looks like im not receiving all that im sending	04:37
fizy[laptop]	Dulak: ill pm you one of the keys. im not sure what that key goes to, but odds are it goes to one of the many jailbroken itouches i sshed into when i was bored during school	04:38
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, I believe that is not the real issue	04:38
wrtiii	Iamnotthatguy: So what are you think is the issue then?	04:39
IAmNotThatGuy	wrtiii, PMZ	04:39
wrtiii	k	04:39
Dulak	fizy[laptop]: you can delete every line in that file and start from scratch. It'll just prompt you to readd the keys whenever you reconnect. I've done it many times being a lazy bastage.	04:39
needhelp1	rsync -auvn --progress --stats --ignore-existing --include '/' --exclude '/' /home/user/Downloads/ /media/External\ Seagate/ \| less	04:39
wildbat	needhelp1: DRY RUN, read man rsync.	04:40
needhelp1	right i know im in dry run, looking for comments on my command. Im concerned about lossless media and images, not sure if rsync is safe with those types of files	04:40
Dulak	ignore-existing is not a good idea, unless you know what you're doing. It only uses the filename to compare, rather than byte-to-byte. You won't get changed files with it.	04:41
vanquish349	so can someone help me	04:41
needhelp1	Dulak, ah, i'll remove it	04:41
needhelp1	my prior post, why does it say im sending much more than im receiving ?	04:41
needhelp1	i dont get that	04:41
Dulak	needhelp1: It uses deltas to compare changes, the deltas are counted in your transfer, even if they only confirm there was no change that needed to be transferred	04:42
JZApples	When man says something like "see mount(8)" what does that mean? man mount(8)?	04:43
llutz__	JZApples: man 8 mount	04:43
llutz__	JZApples: man man for an explanation	04:43
Renierius	Dulak, when I try that I get this message: http://pastebin.com/j6Mg1waK	04:44
mmcji	How are ubuntu package versions related to the orignal package? example, how do I find out what version of amanda is currently in the software channel when the ubuntu package number is Version: 1:3.2.1-1. Is is most likely amanda 2.6x, but how do I find out?	04:44
Renierius	What could I be forgetting, Dulak?	04:44
JZApples	llutz__, thanks man.	04:44
Dulak	Renierius: Umm, I just loaded your install.php just fine from here	04:45
Renierius	Dulak: I can do that as well, but within the actual installation process something isn't working out.	04:46
needhelp1	Dulak, safe for loseless file formats ?	04:46
Dulak	needhelp1: I don't understand the question	04:47
Dulak	Renierius: not sure what the issue is, have a look at your error_log or error.log for your web server	04:48
oscalation	i think hes asking if rsync is safe to use with loseless file formats	04:48
oscalation	Dulak,	04:48
Renierius	Alright, I will, thanks.	04:48
rypervenche	mmcji: Check the source website.	04:48
thune3	mmcji: i think it is the obvious 3.2.1 http://www.amanda.org/download.php	04:48
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Dulak	Renierius: rsync works fine for any file format, if that was the question. It is just the one option you were passing that wasn't a good idea unless you understood what it was doing and wanted that behavior.	04:49
Renierius	Dulak: Wait, what..? I'm sorry, but you kind of lost me there, mate..	04:51
javier	ok. I really don't want to drop my resolution below 1920 x 1080. But I can't see the edges of the desktop on my tv. Can anyone help me?	04:51
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mmcji	thune: but how do you know? Ubuntu does not always have the latest packages.	04:52
Dulak	Renierius: that was meant for someone else sorry	04:52
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mmcji	you are probably correct, but i would like to know how to verify specifically what version I am installing.	04:53
thune3	mmcji: you can see the changelog tracks the upstream versions, with ubuntu sometimes patching in the -# level: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/a/amanda/amanda_3.2.1-1/changelog	04:53
Renierius	Dulak: Ah, hence.. was wondering about such already.	04:53
mmcji	cool!!!!	04:53
Flannel	mmcji: You can look at packages.ubuntu.com, or if you want to know through your computer, you can do 'apt-cache policy packagename' and that'll tell you what you have currently (if installed) and what you'd upgrade to if you upgraded the package	04:53
mmcji	thune3: Thanks	04:54
mmcji	Flannel: Thanks	04:54
zelda	Is someone willing to help me get my hdmi working? lspci doesnt see it and aplay -l doesnt either. Its an IntelHDA card.	04:55
zelda	I have tried the forums and nothing.	04:55
braxton	I'm having problems with my computer not recognizing an 8gb SD card in its built-in reader with Ubuntu 10.04 and an HP Pavilion dv7-45dx. It will open nautilus for a split-second and then it will instantly close.	04:56
KE1HA	javier: There should be over-run compensation slider on your graphics settings, and in some cases the TV also has this feature as well, by setting the auto pixel compensation.	04:56
braxton	Make that 1245-dx	04:56
sathe	hi	04:57
Yegor_P	hi	04:57
Dulak	javier: worst-case you can use xvidtune to tweak the edges as necessary to fit	04:57
bryce	Hello	04:57
sathe	hi yego & bryce	04:58
bryce	Can I get someone to help me with a wireless internet issue?	04:58
KE1HA	javier: be warned though, on the Nvidia cards / Ub systems I've used this on, it doen't save the overrun setting and you have to reset it after each reboot or restart on xserver.	04:58
sathe	wat is your issue bryce	04:58
braxton	bryce: Just ask your questin.	04:58
braxton	*question	04:59
bryce	sathe	04:59
sathe	yeah	04:59
javier	ok, that changes the size, but I get flickering lines acress the tv now	05:00
zelda	anyone?	05:00
bryce	I can get wireless internet to work, but when I shut off and restart my laptop, it isnt working.	05:00
Yegor_P	guys, I need to make some sort of slipstreaming... the task is to make an image containing proprietary video drivers, so to use it for clonezilla later. is it feasible to just move a ubuntu hdd from one pc to another in order to install VGA drivers?	05:00
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DangerOnTheRang1	Can anyone recommend an Intel graphics driver that supports shaders?	05:01
sathe	Ensure that your wireless device is turned on.	05:01
braxton	bryce: Are you dual-booting windows?	05:01
zelda	hm guess I will have to take it over to the Utah linux groups.	05:01
braxton	zelda: What is your problem?	05:01
bryce	braxton: no	05:01
bryce	braxton: I'm using only ubuntu	05:02
KE1HA	DangerOnTheRang1: 946GZ, Q963, Q965, G31, Q33, Q35, G33) supports software vertex shaders and hardware pixel shaders on Shader Model 3.0	05:02
bryce	sathe: It is on, I'm on wireless now, But if I were to restart my computer it wouldnt work!	05:02
braxton	bryce: Oh. Well I've heard problems related to that. I'm sorry, but I have to leave now, or else I'd try to help.	05:02
zelda	I cant get my hdmi working. lspci doesnt recognize it, and aplay -l doesnt see the digital part of this either.	05:02
DangerOnTheRang1	KE1HA: I have a GMA950 - will that support shaders?	05:02
sathe	did you try the help options in ubuntu	05:03
KE1HA	DangerOnTheRang1: See PM	05:03
bryce	sathe: Yes.	05:03
bryce	Sathe: You know what I need?!? I need someone who freaking knows what they're doing. Okay? PM me and I'll send u the full details of the situation.	05:04
zelda	its an intelHDA sound card. Its recognized in the system as ad1981	05:04
Flannel	bryce: The people in this channel are volunteers. You're more likely to get help from them if you're not rude.	05:05
wrtiii	I want to install a 2nd HDD in my linux server. typcially Is there anything I need to do before doing so?	05:06
zelda	@braxton : any ideas?	05:06
Flannel	wrtiii: Nope. Turn off your power and pull the plug before doing so, but that's not unique to linux.	05:07
wrtiii	Flannel: Yea.. I just did exactly that and when I rebooted all hell broke lose.. just spent the last hour getting the system running again..	05:09
wrtiii	sigh round 2 dingding	05:09
zelda	thanks anyway people.	05:10
Flannel	wrtiii: Were you adding a PATA drive when the other was a SATA? or vice versa?	05:10
wrtiii	na	05:10
wrtiii	160gb sata drive	05:10
wrtiii	one is wdc one is samsung	05:10
KE1HA	that shouldn't matter and UB should have adserse reactions to simply adding an HDD	05:11
Flannel	wrtiii: Only thing that I can think of that would cause problems is if you moved your primary drive to your secondary drive, and the new one became the primary. Would require some bootloader fiddling.	05:11
KE1HA	whoops should not have .. ..	05:11
kslt1`	Does ubuntu use LVM? That could cause problems if the new drive has an LVM label on it.	05:13
anxiety	when im using wired internet I cant load any webpages in browsers or connect to msn facebook etc via pidgin, however I can connect to q3 engine based game servers fine, and pinging servers works fine. everything works fine using wireless. anyone have any ideas whats up with that?	05:14
KE1HA	wrtiii: I guess the question is, what was the actually fault / error you saw after rebooting?	05:14
wrtiii	KE1HA: Black Scren	05:15
Flannel	kslt1`: it can, it doesn't by default.	05:15
wrtiii	KE1HA: Posts then goes to black and sits there	05:15
wrtiii	at least this time, gonna go reboot it again	05:15
wrtiii	maybe kick it too	05:15
KE1HA	wrtiii: ok, are you able to boot a LiveCD?	05:15
kslt1`	Try a LIVE cdrom to boot from, and see how the new drive shows up when booted from the LIVE cd.	05:16
seanmc98	can someone help me seT UP VIRTUAL box on 11.04 so i can run windows vista	05:16
KE1HA	If ya can, may help to post the output of fdisk -l and see what UB is seeing.	05:16
seanmc98	can someone help me seT UP VIRTUAL box on 11.04 so i can run windows vista please	05:17
Romin	Anyone know the name of the latest code::blocks build? I tried looking on the forums but it says "none" under linux for all the latest builds... I need to run sudo dpkg -i <Name_Of_Daily_Build.deb>	05:17
wrtiii	Ok. So it flashed some device not found erro right after post. then bootloader appear, I chose the non recovery selection and it has booted to login now with a bunch of errors about /dev/dm-2 not found	05:17
wrtiii	SSH is not up either	05:18
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javier	ok so how do I use xvidtube? I get lines across my tv changing the overscaler	05:19
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wrtiii	Ok and now same problem as first round of attempting this.. I am able to login w/ my usual username and password	05:19
wrtiii	but once logged in nothing I type works	05:19
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Guest76530	hi my synaptic package manager is not opening. pls help	05:20
wrtiii	It returns -bash: command: command not found ie. sudo -i --> -bash: sudo: command not found reboot --> -bash: reboot: command not found ....	05:20
Guest76530	i am ne	05:20
Guest76530	i am new to ubuntu and open source	05:21
KE1HA	wrtiii: it's all a cascading problem form not getting through a clean boot.	05:21
kslt1`	@wrtiii it's confused about where your root file system is.	05:21
KE1HA	very confused from the sounds of it.	05:22
kslt1`	I would go back to original config and get it booting, then check out the new drive carefully using a LIVE cd.	05:22
kslt1`	You could corrupt your file system in the current state.	05:22
KE1HA	Easy enough to do, just pwr dwn the sys, and pull the pwr off the drive and reboot.	05:23
wrtiii	Is there a usb utility for making a live cd that's good offhand?	05:23
seanmc98	is ubuntu 11.04 i386 or AMD64 for a 32 bit PC?	05:23
kslt1`	IDE has choices that have to be made, jumpers that have to be set. If the drive is jumpered the same as the original, could be causing this.	05:23
dunbar	i386	05:24
seanmc98	wrtiii, unetbootin	05:24
seanmc98	dunbar, can you help me set up virtual box and windows XP in 11.04 please	05:24
dunbar	you want to set up a win xp guest in an 11.04 host?	05:25
kumar	hi my synaptic package manager is not opening. pls help	05:25
KE1HA	or usb-creator, usb-creator-kde, usb-creator-gtk, unetbootin .. I use unetbootin allot.	05:25
eQuiNoX__	hey everyone i just got a "bin" file which is a disk image of an android mobile; how could i mount it so that i could have a look at the contents? I tried this => http://pastebin.com/iRwPEnvB	05:25
wrtiii	sata drives kslt1`	05:25
eQuiNoX__	kumar: any kind of error message you are getting?	05:26
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: have you installed vbox?	05:26
wrtiii	Ok So I disconnected the drive and reboot now brings me to grub loader screen and it will not proceed past there w/o user input. and when I press enter to try and boot past it the system just hangs	05:26
seanmc98	installing now	05:26
kumar	no equinox. i have restarted my system several times.	05:26
wrtiii	went through this like 5 reboots last time until it finally completed a full boot on it's own	05:26
dunbar	seanmc98 have you ever used vbox before?	05:27
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: cool, after that create a new virtual machine and configure it with your requirements. its pretty straightforward and easy	05:27
kslt1`	So, sata doesn't require jumper settings?	05:27
seanmc98	no i havent. im a complete noob in VBOX	05:27
KE1HA	Not that I know of, least mine sata drives dont	05:27
eQuiNoX__	kumar: how is restarting once different from restarting many times? ;)	05:27
kumar	equinox: when i give my root password. it shows me as processing. but no use	05:27
eQuiNoX__	kumar: are you able to use apt-get?	05:27
seanmc98	eQuiNoX__, do i download the windows xp.iso or omething?	05:28
dunbar	seanmc98 it really helps you do everything, just be sure to give it enough memory and disk space	05:28
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98 aah, well i cant tell you how to get a hold of windows iso/disk you have to figure that out on your own ;-)	05:28
KE1HA	On most of the newer MB's, it's wehre you plug the SATA drive into that determines what it is, same with onboard cd's, raid's etc	05:28
seanmc98	eQuiNoX__, torrents work :P	05:28
ziyadb	Hi, I am looking for recommendations for mail clients. The default appears to be "Evolution" is it worth using? Or are there better options out there?	05:28
seanmc98	i think	05:29
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: course they do	05:29
kumar	one thing equinox: i am new to open source. i dont know what is apt-get.	05:29
ziyadb	s/are there better options out there/do better options exist/	05:29
eQuiNoX__	kumar: so?	05:29
eQuiNoX__	kumar: no spoon feeding. use google ;)	05:29
kumar	pls help me with this.	05:29
jen	can someone help me with my ipod touch?	05:29
dunbar	ziyadb, you can try mozilla thunderbird	05:29
* ziyadb spoon feeds kumar arsenic		05:29
seanmc98	and i will need usb devices to work in the VBOX eQuiNoX__ and dunbar	05:29
jen	I am finally home and cant be distracted	05:29
kumar	ok equinox. thanks	05:29
eQuiNoX__	meanwhile, guys some help with the android mounting issue? :/	05:30
eQuiNoX__	kumar: dont mention	05:30
ziyadb	dunbar: oh, yeah. I have heard of that before, I assume it is awesome?	05:30
tensorpudding	ziyadb: not really on topic	05:30
KE1HA	wrtiii: gettign the grub boot menu manes the cfg file has been changed somehow, is ya can't get it too boot though, you'll need to chroot in from LiveCD and do a simple update-grub2	05:30
seanmc98	what andriod issue?	05:30
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: yeah that wont be a prob	05:30
eQuiNoX__	"eQuiNoX__: hey everyone i just got a "bin" file which is a disk image of an android mobile; how could i mount it so that i could have a look at the contents? I tried this => http://pastebin.com/iRwPEnvB"	05:30
dunbar	I really don't know, my parents use it, I pretty much use webmail exclusively	05:30
jen	I have gtkpod	05:30
jen	but now what do I do?	05:30
ziyadb	tensorpudding: I suppose not.	05:30
ziyadb	dunbar: I will have to take it for a spin then. Thanks.	05:31
seanmc98	eQuiNoX__, can you take a look at this real quick please	05:31
seanmc98	http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/660295/	05:31
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: use the synaptic package manager	05:31
eQuiNoX__	add repositories	05:31
eQuiNoX__	and then reload	05:31
eQuiNoX__	and install via synaptipc	05:32
kslt1`	I'm no good here. Thanks for listening...	05:32
eQuiNoX__	synaptic*	05:32
jen	anyone?	05:32
kumar	i now know wat is apt-get equinox.	05:32
kiko	alguem fala portugues	05:32
eQuiNoX__	much easier for people new to ubuntu	05:32
seanmc98	eQuiNoX__, how do i use it lol	05:32
eQuiNoX__	eg?	05:32
eQuiNoX__	eh?	05:32
kumar	is synaptic manager and update manager are same	05:33
seanmc98	to add sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner”	05:33
eQuiNoX__	seanmc98: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=synaptic	05:33
seanmc98	since that dont work in terminl	05:33
eQuiNoX__	kumar http://lmgtfy.com/?q=synaptic	05:33
riz0n	Hey guys, I am using the new version of Ubuntu from a Live CD and trying to access an NTFS Partition for the purpose of backing up its conents, but am receiving an error. It says: Error mounting: mount exited withe xit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error Failed to read NTFS $Bitmap Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID ahrdware.	05:34
mouse	kumar synaptic manager is a software manager and update manager is like a system manager not exactly same but basically do the same thing	05:35
jen	anyone help me?	05:35
wildbat	riz0n: there line said "it NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID ahrdware." try scandisk in winz .	05:35
eQuiNoX__	jen: might help => http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/07/how-to-use-gtkpod-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/	05:36
riz0n	wildbat: I can irc.freenode.net: Terminatup usingOinuxirc.freenode.net: Terminatednot get Windows to boot. Hence the reason I am trying to do a drive backp	05:36
wrtiii	KE1HA: Now that I remove the 2nd HDD and Reboot 2 or 3 times The server now works perfect just like it did before	05:36
KE1HA	jen: I used this guide on my other half pod, and worked first time.	05:37
KE1HA	http://ubuntuguide.net/get-ipod-touchipad-recognized-sync-with-gtkpod-in-ubuntu-10-1010-04	05:37
jen	ok	05:37
jen	neato	05:37
jen	was it a touch?	05:37
KE1HA	Yeah, just touch, not iPhone.	05:37
kumar	equinox.. when i give the root password and open my synatic it now says as another synaptic is running.. but my update manager is open now.	05:37
jen	ok	05:37
kumar	ok thanks mouse.	05:38
mouse	update manager updates the system	05:38
KE1HA	wrtiii: Ok, you need to get the topography of your drive system, do you have pastebin installed?	05:38
wrtiii	on the linux system?	05:38
KE1HA	yes	05:38
wrtiii	nope	05:38
wrtiii	didn't realize it was an app	05:39
Jazillann	hi, does nayone know the software the ubuntu documentation pages are built on?	05:39
KE1HA	wrtiii: hold on one	05:39
wrtiii	is there a package for it?	05:39
KE1HA	sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l \| pastebinit	05:40
KE1HA	then paste the link it give you	05:40
riz0n	So is there a way to force mount an NTFS Partition in Ubuntu	05:42
needhelp1	does anyone know when using rsync what ^M means	05:42
wrtiii	KE1HA: Does that work for command line?	05:43
Jazillann	riz0n: search the ubuntu software centre for ntfs, should be an ntfs tool there	05:43
Jazillann	needhelp1: if you do rsync --help it should tell you	05:43
KE1HA	just copy and paste what i posted and it will install and then do the fdisk and send it to pastenin for us.	05:43
linn00b	Hello! I'm looking for some help on setting up a guest account. The first time I tried it things didn't go so well and I think it was due to a lack of privileges.	05:44
KE1HA	wrtiii: sri, yes, it's mand for the command line	05:44
KE1HA	whoops its made for .. CL	05:44
K-Rich	bwahahahah the dog is in the playpen	05:44
jen	umm	05:44
Jazillann	!users \| linn00b	05:45
ubottu	linn00b: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo	05:45
KE1HA	wrtiii: you can also install it when doing LiveCD when you having problems and post it so folks can help you.	05:45
riz0n	Jazillann: thanks. my hard drive is going dead (I think) and I want the opportunity to try and back its contents up before I try formatting and reinstalling its contents.	05:45
seanmc98	what program do you suggest using to download torrents/	05:45
wrtiii	That is awesome	05:45
wrtiii	http://paste.ubuntu.com/660299/	05:45
Jazillann	seanmc98: azureus, ktorrent, utorrent	05:45
wrtiii	I have it on my windows machine here and normally just cut and paste to it	05:45
tensorpudding	seanmc98: transmission, it is available by default	05:45
wrtiii	but so much easier having it right on the server	05:46
seanmc98	transmission isnt any goood?	05:46
wrtiii	brb gotta go find a usb stick	05:46
linn00b	ubottu: thanks! I'll be fine doing through the GUI? or should I CL it?	05:46
ubottu	linn00b: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:46
linn00b	oh wtf.	05:46
jen	I need someones help	05:46
needhelp1	!ask \| jen	05:46
Jazillann	!ask \| jen	05:46
ubottu	jen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:46
Jazillann	loool	05:47
Jazillann	hivemind	05:47
linn00b	!users \| linn00b	05:47
ubottu	linn00b, please see my private message	05:47
linn00b	I see.	05:47
KE1HA	wrtiii: so you do have LVM installed, you'll have to reconnect the drive, use the LiveCD, and do the same thing so we can see what that drive is doing to the LVM	05:47
jen	well I am still ubuntu ignorant and I need someone to personally help me	05:47
linn00b	jen, I'll try to help :)	05:47
jen	ok cool :3	05:48
linn00b	but I'd take a look at my username.	05:48
anxiety	haha jen wats up?	05:48
jen	<.< yeah no thankies ^-^"	05:48
wrtiii	KE1HA: Is LVM worth it? I was already considering just doing a fresh install without it. using max space on both drives	05:48
jen	I need personal help with my ipod touch to syn music	05:48
wrtiii	KE1HA: I mean I could understand the LVM for a desktop situation but hindsight being 20/20 just seems to be something more to go wrong with a server.	05:49
KE1HA	wrtiii: in some cases, yes, but my prefrence is no, if I need more that a TB of storage, I go to HW RAID	05:49
jen	I am using gtkpod and the instructions I am using arent helping	05:49
jen	lol anyone?	05:50
KE1HA	wrtiii: you can always install JOBD which keeps things seperate device wise and still give you all the space, just not continious.	05:50
linn00b	you used the word thankies. Everyone probably hates you.	05:50
KE1HA	wrtiii: the best too I've used for LVM is not a UB distro tool, its from Fedora, but I doint support it here.	05:50
aroman	jen: personal help?	05:51
jen	yes like someone chat with just me to help	05:51
jen	like KEN	05:51
jen	tehe	05:51
aroman	well,	05:51
goddard	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11126608#post11126608	05:51
KE1HA	wrtiii: If this is a real server, meaning, you want good reliability, LVM is probably NOT what you want to be using.	05:51
goddard	help	05:51
daijie	asdf	05:51
aroman	I can say that probably the best experience i've had with ipod syncing is just using windows/mac	05:51
goddard	it seems like i have problems that no one can ever slve	05:51
aroman	in a VM or WINE	05:51
jen	will it work on WINE?	05:52
wrtiii	KE1HA: Is there a way to remove the LVM without doing a fresh install?	05:52
KE1HA	jen: Im not an expert in ipod stuff, but if you can explain the exact problem your having, someone watching here may know how to help.	05:52
aroman	jen: not sure about the latest version	05:52
aroman	goddard: what exactly is your problem?	05:53
jen	ok dokie	05:53
KE1HA	wrtiii: Probably, but it's more pain than its worth. I'd do a backup of anythign critical, and install without LVM for any server type setup. Make sure you install the other drive first though.	05:53
Jazillann	does anyone know the mediawiki theme used at https://help.ubuntu.com/ ?	05:53
quiescens	shrugs, lvm shouldn't be any significantly worse than using drives individually, but obviously isn't as good as using drives redundantly	05:54
goddard	aroman: a file exists yet it doesn and i cant figure out why	05:54
KE1HA	wrtiii: using Tasksel you can have a server install done, up and runnign in 30 minutes.	05:54
goddard	aroman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11126608#post11126608	05:54
jen	well then here's my prob. My ipod is registered and I have music on here I would like to get onto my pod, but cannot sync it. I have apps, a little music, and such. Will it work on WINE? GTK idk if it works or not, it has 8 gig touch as an option but intrustioncs are invalid because I am using natty.	05:54
aroman	goddard: i'm looking at the screenshot now	05:55
wrtiii	KE1HA: yea nothing critcal yet. lamp server, mumble server and static ip is as far as I got. wanted to install the 2nd harddrive so I can keep a mirror image of the main drive in a stable state should problems like this arise. then I can just restore the image from the secondary drive and not have to worry about any problems that were created	05:55
aroman	goddard: it's very blurry, can you pastebin the output?	05:55
rypervenche	jen: You could always run a VM with Windows in it.	05:55
jen	a what?	05:55
jen	VM???	05:55
aroman	jen: virtual machine	05:55
MrWizard	if the music is registered and in itunes, makes an export of it and hard transfer the music to the device via NAS	05:55
jen	umm	05:55
goddard	aroman: not sure why everyone sys tha i can readit fine	05:55
jen	how?	05:55
jen	is it complicated?	05:56
KE1HA	wrtiii: LAMP is 30 seconds to install, if nothign critical is there, Install the second drive, and do a fresh server install.	05:56
aroman	goddard: we can't.	05:56
aroman	jen: not really	05:56
goddard	aroman: odd	05:56
MrWizard	Hello World ^-^	05:56
goddard	aroman: ok i guess	05:56
Jazillann	jen: this might help http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-ubuntu.html	05:56
rypervenche	jen: I believe if you want to be able to sync apps and things of that nature you have to use iTunes.	05:56
jen	itunes wont work on linux will it?	05:56
aroman	jen: not natively, no.	05:56
wrtiii	KE1HA: Will do. now if someone could just train my cat to return the usb stick it stole so I don't have to scrap one of my other ones for this that would be great	05:56
KE1HA	wrtiii: that part I can do almost blindfolded and have done hundreds of test install so can help you more from that perspective.	05:56
linn00b	apple and *nix dont get along	05:56
aroman	linn00b: all of apple's products are *nix..	05:57
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Jazillann	then though apple is pretty much *nix..	05:57
Jazillann	ahaha	05:57
aroman	:P	05:57
linn00b	aroman: touche. should have said linux.	05:57
jen	then how?	05:57
linn00b	aroman: shorthand ftl	05:57
aroman	linn00b: yeah :P	05:57
KE1HA	wrtiii: +1 on the cat know what ya mean !	05:57
dunbar	wasn't mach based on freebsd	05:57
linn00b	aroman: atleast I have my username to hide behind... >,>	05:57
linn00b	dubar: Unix.	05:58
aroman	dunbar: OS X is based on BSD, yes.	05:58
MrWizard	well, BSD at any rate	05:58
jen	if anyone wants to waste their time helping me, private chat me	05:58
aroman	jen: short answer: it's hackish	05:58
MrWizard	which is Berkley's old school flav o unix	05:58
aroman	apple doesn't provide any official support for linux	05:58
wrtiii	KE1HA: Permission to PM You?	05:58
jen	Im a noob	05:58
goddard	aroman: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52167105@N05/6016500709/sizes/l/in/photostream/	05:58
jen	:3	05:58
aroman	goddard: dude	05:58
jen	a cute lil noob	05:58
aroman	goddard: why would you not just pastebin?	05:58
aroman	thats 900x easier	05:58
goddard	aroman: dude what do i need to pastbin?	05:59
aroman	goddard: exactly what's in your terminal	05:59
aroman	there's no reason at all that you need anything but that	05:59
KE1HA	wrtiii: sure, go ahead	05:59
aroman	that's all you're showing.	05:59
linn00b	So I got my new user set up! Much thanks to everyone. Now its for my kid, so I want to make sure I can monitor what he does on the account, does Linux have a keylogger it likes to use?	05:59
seanmc98	if i have a windows xp .iso and virtualbox installed how do i set it up?	05:59
aroman	linn00b: you want to use a keylogger to spy on your child?	05:59
frodo_baggins	guys is it it necessary to have a /home partition. I have other drives in my HDD and windows 7 too.	06:00
no-name-	will ubuntu run ok on a 2.7 ghz single core?	06:00
linn00b	aroman: I want to make sure he doesn't hop onto the internet and disappear into the porn cloud, yes	06:00
aroman	frodo_baggins: no, but why would you not have one?	06:00
MrWizard	lol	06:00
aroman	linn00b: you want a porn filter, not a keylogger.	06:00
aroman	a keylogger would do nothing to prevent that scenario	06:00
aroman	since it can only report things after the fact	06:00
linn00b	aroman: both? First I want a keylogger.	06:01
aroman	no-name-: very well	06:01
MrWizard	ubuntu will run ok on that old p2 box ya got sittin in the corner down in ya basement ;)	06:01
milamber	!pastebin \| goddard	06:01
ubottu	goddard: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	06:01
linn00b	aroman: I just want to be able to come back later, and see what's been going on on my guest account.	06:01
frodo_baggins	aroman: yeah good point, but i was thinking if i give 250 gb out of 2TB to /root. Or can you suggest me sizes plz.?	06:01
no-name-	MrWizard: I couldn't find video drivers for that one :P	06:01
aroman	linn00b: well suit yourself, check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14180/how-can-i-install-a-keylogger	06:01
aroman	linn00b: I'm afraid I can't vouch for anything personally	06:01
Flannel	linn00b: You should look into dansguardian, which is a web filter	06:02
aroman	frodo_baggins: not sure what you're trying to do	06:02
linn00b	aroman: dansguardian, got it, much appreciated friend!	06:02
aroman	linn00b: I think you meant to direct that to Flannel :P	06:02
linn00b	><	06:03
MrWizard	no-name: probably was an old via chipset for video then, in which case you need to use some old openchrome drivers, in addition to generating your own xorg.conf file cause it wont be made on install or driver update =(	06:03
linn00b	I guess I'm just used to seeing red and thinking its you	06:03
aroman	heh	06:03
linn00b	Flannel: thanks!	06:03
aroman	"seeing red"	06:03
aroman	frodo_baggins: have a look at this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?chap=4&part=1#doc_chap2	06:03
seanmc98	can someone help me seT UP VIRTUAL box on 11.04 so i can run windows xp. i have the .iso downloaded	06:03
frodo_baggins	aroman: just going to install ubuntu side by side windows 7 but using manual partitioning, to use for testing my php scripts	06:03
linn00b	haha I've made a proper ass out of myself tonight.	06:03
seanmc98	and i have virtual box installed	06:03
aroman	frodo_baggins: ah I see	06:03
dunbar	seanmc98: have you started vb yet?	06:03
aroman	frodo_baggins: what's wrong with the default layout?	06:03
MrWizard	ew. default layouts. shivers ><	06:04
seanmc98	dunbar, yes	06:04
seanmc98	clicked new. and maed it windows XP	06:04
seanmc98	named*	06:04
dunbar	and?	06:04
seanmc98	idk what to do after that i have never used it	06:04
aroman	!details \| seanmc98	06:04
ubottu	seanmc98: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."	06:04
frodo_baggins	aroman: I guess, when something happens to windows installation, even ubuntu installation gets affected if you chose side by side-default.	06:05
seanmc98	dunbar, do i select boot hard disk?	06:05
aroman	frodo_baggins: changing your partition map wouldn't really do that	06:05
aroman	i think you're referring to GRUB being overwritten	06:05
=== MrWizard is now known as Sabu
Sabu	boo.	06:06
milamber	frodo_baggins: are you just trying to get an AMP server set up?	06:07
frodo_baggins_	aroman: exactly	06:09
aroman	frodo_baggins_: yeah messing around with your partition map is going to do nothing to fix that I'm afraid	06:09
frodo_baggins_	aroman: ahh....so should i choose "default-sise-by-side" option or give "free space to ubuntu" to do it by self?	06:10
Sabu	if u pick free space its prolly gonna take ALL ur free space	06:11
aroman	frodo_baggins_: I guess that really depends on your own configuration	06:11
Sabu	pre-partition space and do the side by side	06:11
aroman	us guessing wouldn't really help much	06:11
frodo_baggins_	okay, so i pre partition it then and install, ty ty all	06:12
=== green is now known as green_top
goddard	...	06:18
aroman	goddard: if you want help, use pastebin like everyone else	06:20
aroman	there's a reason those sites exist	06:20
linn00b	every keylogger I've been able to find seems.... bad. This doesn't seem like like a hard task. Anyone got a suggestion for their favorite?	06:20
aroman	i'd be happy to help you, but i just can't read that text.	06:20
goddard	aroman: i can't help stupid	06:20
aroman	goddard: what??	06:20
goddard	aroman: ive told you like three times how to view the image it isnt my fault you dont read	06:20
aroman	I know perfectly well how to change the size of the image	06:21
goddard	then you have no excuse	06:21
iceCupa	ZOMFG	06:21
iceCupa	1401	06:21
aroman	well, then you have no excuse for not getting help.	06:21
iceCupa	INSANE	06:21
goddard	aroman: when help is meet with a request of stupidity i find it usually leads no where any way	06:21
KE1HA	pandora's box	06:22
aroman	goddard: multiple people have told you the same thing now	06:22
theadmin	aroman: He's trolling you, ignore it.	06:22
goddard	aroman: stupidity seems to be contagious	06:22
goddard	theadmin: stop trolling me	06:22
aroman	okay yeah he is	06:22
* theadmin /ignore's		06:23
aroman	it just seemed uncommon for a troll to go through the trouble of making the whole post on the forums :P	06:23
* goddard /ignore's lots foreach()		06:23
goddard	:D	06:23
goddard	:P	06:23
goddard	t(-_0)	06:23
goddard	theadmin: is aroman's saviour i think they are in love :D	06:24
devsys	Hey everyone.... quick question. I have a installation of Xymon which was installed and working perfectly using the official ubuntu package. Some time has pased, and I really need to update the install as some security issues have came to light that have been addressed in the latest version. The developer has a deb file for this new version on sourceforge... how can I upgrade my install?	06:25
iceCupa	wats the channelspeak?	06:26
urlin2u	devsys, that is a server package?	06:27
devsys	yes	06:27
devsys	I believe so... its ubuntu server	06:27
Yukinoroh	anyone else having scrollbar issues in gimp?	06:27
Yukinoroh	if liboverlay is installed, the font selection is impossible, and if it's not, the scrollbar at the bottom will hide part of the image	06:28
KE1HA	yes it's a network monitor I think	06:28
Yukinoroh	I think it's caused by liboverlay	06:28
urlin2u	devsys, before you get yelled at this being a ubuntu channel , try here #ubuntu-server ;)	06:28
devsys	uups, thanks	06:28
devsys	oops*	06:28
Flannel	urlin2u, devsys: that question was perfectly fine for this channel.	06:28
rypervenche	devsys: Download the .deb file, install it using "# dpkg -i filname"	06:28
rypervenche	devsys: # meaning root powers.	06:29
urlin2u	Flannel, no problem I was just giving the full optional exsperience. ;)	06:29
devsys	rypervenche: I did and I got xymon conflicts with hobbit-client	06:29
samy3	hi	06:29
samy3	help me how to install VirutalBox in my linux machine?	06:29
devsys	should I remote the hobbit-client package? I dont have a problem doing that I just don't want to hose the server part of the install	06:30
dunbar	samy3 it is in the ubuntu software center	06:30
Flannel	devsys: What version of Ubuntu are you using?	06:30
samy3	dunbar where is ubuntu software center?	06:30
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devsys	Flannel: I believe 10	06:31
dunbar	samy3: are you on 11.04	06:31
devsys	11.04	06:31
KE1HA	System >> Administration or Applicaitons Ubuntu Software Center	06:31
Guest75269	hy	06:31
urlin2u	samy3, there is also the virtualbox website if you want to use usb HD's or thumbs	06:31
Guest75269	Newbie ^_^	06:31
samy3	guys can you tell me how to install using the terminal?	06:31
samy3	command	06:31
theadmin	samy3: sudo apt-get install packaganame	06:32
theadmin	!APT \| samy3	06:32
ubottu	samy3: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)	06:32
Flannel	devsys: hobbit-client is a dummy package, so you'll be fine removing it (it doesn't provide anything)	06:32
devsys	sweet	06:32
Flannel	devsys: You just want to make sure you have xymon-client installed (which is what hobbit-client turned into)	06:32
urlin2u	samy3, make sure you install dkms as well it wil allow kernel updates on the host without reloading the guest additions.	06:33
KE1HA	Geez, lets see: sudo dpkg -i or sudo aptitude install or sudo apt-get install too many to pick from :-)	06:33
theadmin	KE1HA: Yep, exactly the reason I hate APT :P	06:33
samy3	urlinu what is dkms?	06:33
Flannel	KE1HA: dpkg -i knows nothing about repositories, apt-get and aptitude are two different frontends, aptitude is no longer installed by default.	06:34
KE1HA	Indeed dpkg fer .deb should have stated that sri :-)	06:34
urlin2u	samy3, it links up the virtual and host kernel, for being able to update the host kernel and no having to reinstall the guest additions in virtualbox.	06:35
devsys	Flannel: I get Package hobbit-client is not installed, so not removed	06:35
devsys	Flannel: Using sudo apt-get remove hobbit-client	06:36
devsys	Flannel: dpkg -l \| grep hobbit-client showed nothing	06:36
samy3	urlin2u but vb is not install on my pc	06:38
urlin2u	samy3, I thought you wanted to install virtualbox.	06:38
frodo_baggins	hi I was trying to install netbeans 7 bundled with jre java....but got this error...http://pastebin.com/Pnx4dTEK please help!!	06:39
samy3	yeh urlinu2u i want to install vb=virutal box	06:39
KE1HA	devsys: try: apt-cache policy hobbit-client	06:39
urlin2u	samy3, right and before or after you do I suggested to install dkms, if you don't want to reinstall the guest additions in VB every time you get a kernel update in the host.	06:40
frodo_baggins	is jre 7 supported on ubuntu 11.04	06:41
Flannel	devsys: ah, it seems that's a virtual package provided by xymon-client. So, that's somewhat annoying.	06:41
samy3	urlin2u how can i install dkms?	06:41
theadmin	frodo_baggins: Normally not.	06:41
urlin2u	samy3, sudo apt-get install dkms in the terminal.	06:41
samy3	ok urlin2u got it	06:42
frodo_baggins	theadmin: any way to install neteans 7.0.1	06:42
devsys	KE1HA: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660316/	06:42
samy3	oh no :( error come while instaling dkms	06:42
KE1HA	devsys: verifies what Flannel said about virtual package .. that's a pain.	06:42
urlin2u	samy3, you might want to get acquainted with synaptic as well, I prefer it over the software center more info really, it is in the admin area.	06:43
devsys	Hmm so what do I do about it?	06:43
samy3	http://pastebin.com/nUALHX7N here is the error when i use apt-get install dkms	06:43
urlin2u	samy3, did you use sudo?	06:44
KE1HA	samy3: ua need sudo to install dkms	06:44
samy3	no urlin2u	06:44
KE1HA	sudo apt-get install dkms	06:44
linn00b	exit	06:44
Myrtti	he is using root terminal	06:44
urlin2u	samy3, you don't need to be in root and shouldn't be	06:44
KE1HA	That's gonna cause issues	06:45
samy3	ok omg again error comes using sudo	06:45
KE1HA	especially with dynamic kernel module compilation	06:45
urlin2u	samy3, is this a fresh install have you run a regualar update?	06:45
samy3	let meyes fresh install	06:46
samy3	yes it is fresh install	06:46
urlin2u	samy3, run this then the dkms sudo apt-get update	06:46
MikeChelen	is there any way to adjust the sizes of the close, minimize, and maximize icons in 11.04?	06:46
devsys	Hmm so can I force the deb to overwrite it?	06:47
urlin2u	samy3, really a update and upgrade probably should n=be run before adding apps	06:47
samy3	when i use dkms sudo apt-get update then this error come http://pastebin.com/rujbKebf	06:48
urlin2u	samy3, the sudo is the first thing run sudo apt-get update is the command	06:49
KE1HA	cuz your tryting to tell a package name to do something .. sudo apt-get update first, them upgrade, then install dkms	06:49
urlin2u	KE1HA, ;)	06:49
urlin2u	samy3, you will get the hang of it. ;)	06:50
samy3	ok urlin2u some package start installing on my pc	06:50
samy3	:)	06:50
urlin2u	samy3, it should show in the terminal, probably a bunch of packages will appear and a y/n for install.	06:51
samy3	yes urlin2u still installing. Hey can i ask you how red color appears when you wirte to me?	06:52
urlin2u	samy3, if you type the nic the first few letter then hit tab it should complete, the red is so you see I'm talking to you.	06:53
Ssn	transmission says port is closed when i have that port open in the router, is there other system setting i should tweak?	06:53
samy3	urlin2u, ok got it and also sudo apt-get update command is completed what to do next?	06:54
urlin2u	samy3, what do you see in the terminal?	06:55
Ssn	also I've tried disabling ufw/enable ufw but allowing that port, wouldn't work either way	06:55
wrtiii	well it's confirmed that this server supports hot swapping sata drives at least ;)	06:55
KE1HA	wrtiii: that's progress from where we were fer sure.	06:56
onats	hey	06:56
urlin2u	samy3, in ubuntu the update command only gathers whats available, so did you see a packages for install and a y/n for installation?	06:56
onats	does 'brogrammer' have negative connotations?	06:56
samy3	urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/n4nkLeCp	06:56
KE1HA	urlin2u: just give hime the whole line with the && statement, he's goo to go on updates	06:57
urlin2u	samy3, this is the ubuntu channel we can't help with backtrack, sorry.	06:57
wrtiii	KE1HA: Just loaded up gparted from my hirens stick and wipe all drive partitions. first attempt to reinstall the installer wouldn't do the partitioning guided w/o lvm because of the already existing lvm partitions	06:58
KE1HA	wrtiii: gotta love LVM ey :-)	06:58
samy3	urlin2u, please help me with this :) if you don't mind. otherwise tell me where can i get help regarding this?	06:59
KE1HA	samy3: now you need to upgrade the packages: sudo apt-get upgrade then answer Y when it asks you.	06:59
urlin2u	samy3, I would except that this is the ubuntu chanell I would rather not be banned.	06:59
KE1HA	after that's done, you can install dkms	06:59
wrtiii	KE1HA: Yea.. it's amazing... haha I'm sure in a desktop situation it would be great. but for a server.. the option should be removed from the installer	06:59
samy3	ok urlin2u ,	07:00
wrtiii	KE1HA: and really.. why LVM at all... what was wrong with partition magic and a floppy disk.. ;)	07:00
KE1HA	wrtiii: in most cased HW RAID is the best way to go fer true servers, but for testing and such, multi-signgle dives are ok.	07:01
MikeChelen	can the size of the close, minimize,	07:01
MikeChelen	and maximize buttons be adjusted in 11.04?	07:01
KE1HA	wrtiii: I used LVM a few times, until I had the headache you've had, and that was enough.	07:01
samy3	KE1HA, http://pastebin.com/n4nkLeCp when i used this sudo apt-get update	07:01
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Guest48548	hi i am using e1505 and i just installed xubuntu 11.04 but my ireless doesn't seem to ork	07:02
Myrtti	!backtrack > samy3	07:02
ubottu	samy3, please see my private message	07:02
KE1HA	samy3: it is: sudo apt-get upgrade ... not update agian	07:02
_nickel	I'm trying to add Natty as an "affected project" on Launchpad and I can't seem to figure it out. Anyone have a moment to help me?	07:02
_nickel	to a bug on Launchpad.net that is	07:02
Guest48548	can anyone help me with wifi on xubuntu my hardware is dell e1505 a broadcom wireless chip	07:03
wrtiii	KE1HA: I was toying with the software raid idea, but it's just my own personal server. What I require is the ability to keep an "out-of-date" image of my working system should I wrecked my system learning how to configure a shared user database across multiple services. Then I can go uh-oh.. and reimage and save myself a couple hours worth of setup getting the server back to where it was	07:04
wrtiii	KE1HA: Where with a raid setup my mistakes would be saved before I knew I made them :P	07:04
wrtiii	KE1HA: Do you install the LAMP and SSH directly from the installer tasksel menu? or do you bring the system up with a minimal install and then run tasksel @ first login?	07:05
KE1HA	wrtiii: SW RAID is as bad as LVM, mabye worse. HW-RAID and a good off system back up is best way to go IMHO	07:06
KE1HA	wrtiii: Install SSH first, then make sure it's working, then go back into tasksel and do LAMP	07:06
wrtiii	KE1HA: at the risk of getting beaten I'm honestly beginning to wonder if linux is truly the way to go or not ;)	07:06
samy3	hi how can i open the .rar file?	07:07
KE1HA	wrtiii: for Server, definately the way to go.	07:07
skpl	is there a way to change my cursor theme in natty narwal?	07:08
KE1HA	Then again, there's only one WinDoze box in the house here, the wife's WOrk Laptop, the rest are all UB Linux.	07:08
KE1HA	samy3: Hows the upgrade going, still installing?	07:09
wrtiii	KE1HA: I've been directly supporting a server of 2500 terminals and indirectly supporting the rest of the country + we are currently gearing up our deployable networks which will link into the network via satellite uplink and I don't think I've ever encountered the amount of problems I've come across in the past week trying to get linux working on 1 machine (4 machines if you include the other	07:09
wrtiii	3 that just did not like linux)	07:09
samy3	KE1HA, yes upgrade still installing , net speed is slow	07:09
weside	I like linucks :)	07:09
KE1HA	samy3: Ok no worries, let us know when it's done.	07:10
wrtiii	KE1HA: Automatic Security Updates.. I tell it to go to hell I will do it manually or does linux actually have something that works? hehe	07:10
samy3	KE1HA, thanks dear i'll tell you as soon i get	07:10
KE1HA	wrtiii: ALl the proff I need: http://www.top500.org/stats/list/37/os	07:11
pr3nt1c3	!nvidia	07:11
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto	07:11
wrtiii	KE1HA: haha nice! I am so bookmarking that	07:12
urlin2u	wrtiii, the linux set up at the Hadron collider seems to work and the about60% of the servers on the net that are either uunix or linux , amongst others and googles servers. ;)	07:13
weside	Has anybody played around with Ubuntu 11.10 alpha yet?	07:13
wrtiii	urlin2u: Yea but I bet none of them are P4 era dells	07:14
urlin2u	weside, yes there is a actual channel for more help #ubuntu+1	07:14
urlin2u	wrtiii, my p3 run fine	07:14
weside	cool	07:14
urlin2u	*runs	07:14
KE1HA	OT I know but, Cisco owns the pipes, Linux runs the Net :-)	07:14
wrtiii	urlin2u: I went through 3 pc's all GX280, GX620 and a Lenovo P4 era. None of them would take a standard ubuntu install all of would install fine. pc would post then lock up	07:15
urlin2u	the fastest super computers at least 70% run a linux variant.	07:15
urlin2u	wrtiii, I suspect that your new at this am I correct?	07:16
wrtiii	If it wasn't for the fact that I completed the exact same install process on my laptop without incident I would of blamed myself as the common failure point	07:16
smokeycastle	I have an issue with switching to console previously I was able to go ctrl + alt +f1 to switch to console however now when I do it i stay on the gui I just lose the ability to interact with anything until i press ctrl + alt + f7. any ideas what has happened?	07:16
wrtiii	urlin2u: depends what your suspecting I am new to	07:16
urlin2u	wrtiii, open source	07:16
wrtiii	that's a fair enough statement	07:17
wrtiii	Last contact was slackware about 15 years ago so old, new, either works :P	07:17
urlin2u	wrtiii, no biggie it is not always plug and play, but nice when it is. ;)	07:17
wrtiii	Well I still gotta get the paperwork past the boss for having one of the good towers at home so I may be figuring out how to get the install to work on one of the older machines in a couple weeks ;)	07:18
wrtiii	At any rate, So What about the automatic security updates. my install is waiting for an answer	07:18
KE1HA	you have to tell it if you want them to do it or not	07:19
urlin2u	wrtiii, seems logical to install security updates.	07:19
wrtiii	on one hand, once I deploy I may be away for 6-9 months with very limited or possibly no access to my server. so would be good to have the security updates being done automaticaly	07:19
wrtiii	but then again I don't want the system going down because of some failure in the auto update process	07:20
wrtiii	So I guess my question is, How stable is the automatic security update process?	07:20
KE1HA	Security updates are well testing from my experience, when you get into third party or exotic apps it can get a bit tricky.	07:21
KE1HA	.. well tested ..	07:21
urlin2u	wrtiii, peronally know nothing in the server area, if you don't get answers that satisfy you here, try #ubuntu-server.	07:21
urlin2u	personally*	07:21
wrtiii	lol keep going to different channels until someone gives me the answer I want ? ;)	07:22
rokra	Hi, I installed ubuntu yesterday alongside win7 but I have no multiboot option , and I have only the boot to win7 any ideas?	07:22
urlin2u	roknir, you need to reload grub2 tho the mbr.	07:23
KE1HA	wrtiii: that's the right answer :-) .. Also, sticking with the LTS release bundles are best for server, unless you must have something from a later distro.	07:23
urlin2u	roknir, what is the other distro besides W7	07:23
rokra	only ubuntu 11	07:23
rokra	urlin2u: I need to read the doc grub2 because I don t want to break the mbr	07:24
wrtiii	KE1HA: good point, and you mention this after I am 3/4 of the way through the install process again... haha	07:24
urlin2u	roknir, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files	07:24
KE1HA	wrtiii: The box Im on now is 10.04 LTS so are my servers, but have several boxes here that are all on Natty.	07:24
urlin2u	rokra, sorry your nic is very close to another, the mbr is easy to deal with. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files	07:25
wrtiii	KE1HA: What's the life span left on 10.04 LTS?	07:25
auronandace	!lts \| wrtiii	07:26
ubottu	wrtiii: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)	07:26
KE1HA	wrtiii: 3yrs fer Desktop and 5 for servers I think, need to check that.	07:26
KE1HA	Ahh, the BOT got t it first :-)	07:26
wrtiii	That does not answer my question though :P	07:26
urlin2u	rokra, does the link make sense just 3 commands form a booted naty cd to fix you uo.	07:27
wrtiii	What was the release date of the current LTS version?	07:27
KE1HA	Oh, SRI, Left on .. well 10.04 came out in April 2010 :-)	07:27
auronandace	wrtiii: it does, the release numbers are based on the date: 10.04 = april 2010	07:27
fowl	derp	07:28
wrtiii	I'll be posted and have to return this server before spring 2013. at the very latest july of 2013 :P	07:28
wrtiii	any huge changes between 10.04 and 11.04 server versions?	07:28
KE1HA	tht's you'd ahve to ask ubuntu-server guys on, I test the ISO install, but not much else untill a year before upgrading.	07:29
Lasers	wrtiii: HUGE.	07:29
Lasers	wrtiii: Oh server version. Nevermind!	07:29
rokra	urlin2u: thanks, should be OK	07:31
wols	wrtiii: 10.04 is a lot longer supported	07:31
rokra	urlin2u: rebooting on the disk now , I hope ;)	07:31
urlin2u	rokra, cool the mbr can be intimidating. ;)	07:31
kz3	as soon as I am typing "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal I am getting this error "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found." what should I do?	07:32
wrtiii	Alright fine I'll download another ISO	07:32
wrtiii	:)	07:32
wrtiii	oh comon.. zzzz... Anyone know of any highspeed mirrors for the 10.04.3 LTS 64 Bit ISO?	07:33
bullgard4_	[Natty server with GNOME 2] "Please enter your password to access problem report of system programs" If I enter the password of the current user which gives sudo access, then I cannot report my problem because the computer does not open the problem reporting routine. What should I do?	07:33
auronandace	wrtiii: torrents might be faster	07:33
wols	kz3: the directory should look like this http://paste.debian.net/125337/	07:34
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wrtiii	does ubuntu list a certified torrent of it or something?	07:34
kz3	wols : which directory?	07:34
Lasers	!torrent \| wri	07:35
ubottu	wri: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	07:35
Lasers	!torrents \| wrtiii	07:35
ubottu	wrtiii: Natty can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/desktop/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/server/ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/	07:35
wols	kz3: the directory which is shown in my paste and your error message...	07:35
kz3	wols : how should I solve the error?	07:35
Algorith	transmission has a cli?	07:35
krazykrivda	I have been using fstab to mount a vfat partition, but it no longer gives me any access to modify files. what should I do?	07:35
wols	bullgard4_: gksu <xterm> or sudo <shell> then start the problem reporting stuff	07:35
KE1HA	it's probably an error in the source.list	07:36
wols	kz3: the question is how does this dierctory look at your end?	07:36
urlin2u	wrtiii, http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/10.04/	07:36
wols	KE1HA: if a apt binary is missing, it's a sources.list problem?	07:36
wols	KE1HA: the method driver missing is not "hztpfoo" but "http"	07:37
wrtiii	haha! 2MB/s is so much nicer than 200k download speed :)	07:37
kz3	wols : it says bash: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: No such file or directory	07:37
KE1HA	My bad, i was reading that all wrong.	07:37
Lasers	Algorith: Yes.	07:38
bullgard4_	wols: Thank you.	07:38
wols	kz3: I asked for the content of the directory. you already told us the error message.	07:38
rokra	urlin2u: omg	07:40
urlin2u	rokra, what's up?	07:40
rokra	urlin2u: it is not working , still booting on win7 directly without multiboot	07:40
wols	krazykrivda: what is your fstab line for it?	07:40
rokra	urlin2u: I think I have understand but need to check something can you help me , because I m bad with grub etc..	07:41
wols	rokra: what is your grub-install line you used?	07:41
KE1HA	wols: I'm sure I've seen a bug report on that error though somwhere.	07:41
krazykrivda	wols: this is what mount returns for it: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)	07:41
urlin2u	rokra, can you boot the live natty cd and paste bin the output of sudo fdisk -lu	07:41
rokra	wols: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt then grub-install... sda	07:42
auronandace	rokra: do you have more than one diskdrive?	07:42
wols	KE1HA: could very well be. reinstalling apt should solve the problem possibly but I'm not sure, hence why I asked him. but he doesn't want to answer, so shrug	07:42
rokra	but I have 2 disks one ssd ( sda) and on sata sdb	07:42
kz3	wols : ls /usr/lib/apt/methods	07:42
kz3	bzip2 copy ftp gzip https mirror rsh	07:42
kz3	cdrom file gpgv http lzma rred ssh	07:42
wols	rokra: I want you exact line, not the other stuff around	07:42
urlin2u	rokra, I will get you working it is area I'm quite familiar with.	07:42
auronandace	rokra: is windows on the sdb disk?	07:42
rokra	seems the mbr is on sdb because I disconnected the sata disk from the pc and I got the grub commadn line	07:42
urlin2u	rokra, looks like you have help here, call if you need mine. ;)	07:43
rokra	auronandace: no , the sda has 2 partition the windows and the linux , I m running both OS on the ssd disk n and the sata is just for diskspace	07:43
rokra	wols: I m looking the article to give you the exact line	07:44
rokra	urlin2u: you can help me as well :p	07:44
KE1HA	wols: dont know if it's exactly the same, but it's close: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/790315	07:45
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 790315 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/'http could not be found" [Undecided,Invalid]	07:45
wols	rokra: I don't care what the article says, I care what YOU typed!	07:45
rokra	wols: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt	07:45
urlin2u	rokra, multiple helpers can get things confused and frustrating.	07:45
rokra	wols: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda	07:45
wrtiii	What version of IRC is everyone running.. Are invision and the other one that started with an "E" still being used?	07:46
urlin2u	chat	07:46
urlin2u	xchat	07:46
rokra	irssi	07:46
KE1HA	Konversation	07:46
Algorith	irssi	07:46
wols	KE1HA: IF he typed the error message in here properly, this is not at all like the bug you linked	07:46
rick__	hey folks, i just installed ubuntu 11.04. Also, i have installed the Gnome remote desktop. But the problem is then when i do a remote desktop to my ubuntu, i do not see any of the open apps.	07:46
rick__	Any ideas about that	07:46
wols	!polls \| wrtiii	07:47
ubottu	wrtiii: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	07:47
wrtiii	wols: really..	07:47
rokra	urlin2u: do you know how can I check that the mbr is not on the sdb disk	07:47
wols	wrtiii: you don't want 1500 people in here answering your poll	07:48
rokra	urlin2u: because I didthe grub-install on the sda	07:48
KE1HA	wols: ok, i need to backtrack some then as I thought that's what he types.	07:48
wols	KE1HA: your bug was 'http while his typing was simply http	07:48
urlin2u	rokra, yes but wols can get you going, but there is a bootscript that will tell you that and much more.	07:49
krazykrivda	wols: any advice for me? ;-)	07:49
KE1HA	Ahh. 'http and not just http got it, tnx	07:49
wols	urlin2u: why. you said you have experience and could help him. you were right with confusion by too many helpers	07:49
urlin2u	!bootscript	07:49
wols	urlin2u: which is why I stopped	07:49
wrtiii	wols: It was not a poll and I did not ask what was "best" merely asked if anyone was still using scripts like invision. but then again I may just be splitting hairs here. I figure I might as well get comfortable I imagine as I get more fluid with ubuntu I'll be answering some questions myself when the oppurtunity comes up	07:49
urlin2u	rokra, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/	07:49
royst	hi all	07:50
wols	kz3: you can download the apt deb file and install with dpkg -i but it's a shot in the dark	07:50
wols	!info apt	07:50
ubottu	apt (source: apt): Advanced front-end for dpkg. In component main, is important. Version 0.8.13.2ubuntu4.1 (natty), package size 2052 kB, installed size 6208 kB	07:50
urlin2u	wols, no problem you can do this I just wanted to make sure there are set up . ;)	07:50
cmanns	What would cause ubuntu grub command line not to have commands like root	07:51
rokra	urlin2u: running	07:51
wols	cmanns: missing stage 1.5 and stage 2 files most likely. what dos "help" say?	07:51
wols	cmanns: and are you getting the grub menu or an error?	07:52
urlin2u	rokra, cool are you on the live cd as well?	07:52
wols	!pm > wrtiii	07:52
ubottu	wrtiii, please see my private message	07:52
rokra	urlin2u: yes	07:52
cmanns	Like uh	07:52
cmanns	unknown command root wols	07:52
cmanns	I'm trying to use grub to usbboot an old laptop that wont usb boot due to bios	07:53
wols	cmanns: more explanation needed	07:53
urlin2u	rokra, good I wil look at the script, it sounds like you got the grub into the wrong mbr is all the problem is probably.	07:53
rokra	urlin2u: I have he result	07:54
cmanns	I tried grub> usb, says USB devices: (none) too which potentially sucks	07:54
theadmin	cmanns: Ubuntu uses GRUB2.	07:54
theadmin	cmanns: "root" isn't a command there, for instance	07:54
cmanns	My goal's to boot off USB but this laptop doesn't support it (Thus I pxe installed ubuntu)	07:54
theadmin	cmanns: Neither is "kernel", actually	07:54
rokra	urlin2u: Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda , Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.	07:54
cmanns	theadmin, can grub2 boot from usb on a laptop that wont boot from usb?	07:54
bullgard4_	Natty server 64 Bit with GNOME 2 ignores the key AltGr. Therefore I cannot login. the keyboard layout is displayed as »Deutschland«. How to fix this? This problem seems to be related to that in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514984.	07:54
cmanns	Appears grub can do this =/	07:54
urlin2u	rokra, paste the whole generated file here then post a link to it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/	07:54
rokra	urlin2u: what is the best way to use?	07:54
theadmin	cmanns: I think yes, but idk how, I'm not familiar with Grub2 at all	07:54
rokra	urlin2u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660339/	07:56
Generic_Dumbass	Flashgot doesn't work on Linux I guess. What should I use instead?	07:56
urlin2u	rokra, cool hold on	07:56
theadmin	Generic_Dumbass: There's quite a few downloaders. jDownloader is a good example.	07:57
theadmin	Generic_Dumbass: Also, Flashgot does work on Linux	07:57
Generic_Dumbass	Ctrl-F7, my go to command, is grayed out in Firefox	07:57
theadmin	Generic_Dumbass: Except it's for Firefox...	07:57
Generic_Dumbass	so, at least part of it doesn't work	07:57
theadmin	Generic_Dumbass: idk	07:57
cmanns	Might try this	07:57
cmanns	http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/how-to-boot-from-an-usb-stick-without-bios-support-using-grub2-776192/#post3867081	07:57
cmanns	Sound viable?	07:57
FloodBot1	cmanns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:58
shorttech	does anyone know how to remove the vertical mouse move from KDE that shows a 2d image of all the windows (applications) open on the desktop???	07:58
theadmin	shorttech: Maybe people on #kde do.	07:58
shorttech	#kde	07:58
theadmin	shorttech: /join #kde	07:58
shorttech	theadmin, than kyo u	07:59
cmanns	How did I flood?	07:59
urlin2u	rokra, you have grub in the sda1 partition, and the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD which should be in sda1 in sdb1	07:59
theadmin	cmanns: It's a bot, if you send messages too often it'll warn you	08:00
theadmin	like	08:00
theadmin	this	08:00
urlin2u	rokra, the grub in windows can be a problem.	08:00
rokra	urlin2u: what is /Boot/BCD??	08:00
urlin2u	rokra, it is part of the W7 boot	08:00
rokra	urlin2u: what is the best way , can I move the mbr windows to sda1 which is the windows system disk?	08:00
bullgard4_	How can I switch off compiz so that it will not start at reboot?	08:00
bullgard4_	(Natty)	08:01
theadmin	bullgard4_: System, Preferences, Appearance, Visual Effects, None	08:01
rokra	reading some article , I can see the command ms-sys ... ?	08:01
cmanns	ic theadmin	08:01
wols	bullgard4_: disabloe your display manager: /etc/init/gdm	08:01
theadmin	wols: lolwut?	08:01
Lasers	That'll take off compiz for sure. :)	08:02
wols	theadmin: depends what he wants. my solution might not be what he wants tho	08:02
urlin2u	rokra, that question does not make sense, what you need to do is remove grub from the sda1 partition and get the missing /bootmgr /Boot/BCD in	08:02
theadmin	wols: You don't typically kill flies with a hammer	08:02
theadmin	wols: He just wants to get rid of visual effects, that's all	08:03
wols	urlin2u: it doesn't matter what's in sda1 but only what is in sda	08:03
bullgard4_	wols: How can I switch off compiz so that it will not start at reboot? I cannot login because Natty does not accept a AltGr keypress.	08:03
wols	theadmin: he has bug reporting to do which means he has a problem. so my solution is not as draconian as it seems	08:03
KE1HA	His config, form what he posted looks correct, as long as the grub2.cfg is right.	08:03
wols	bullgard4_: compiz has nothing to do with logging in. what do you actually need to not load?	08:04
urlin2u	wols, okay then read the script and fix it there are mssing files in the wsda1 that windows needs.	08:04
KE1HA	He should probably chroot in from a LiveCD and update grub	08:04
rokra	urlin2u: so what is the best thing to do :(	08:05
urlin2u	there a is also a grub in the W7 as well.	08:05
bullgard4_	wols: I do not know exactly what you call "actually need to not load". -- What I can tell you is that I cannot login because my Natty does not accept the AltGr keypress.	08:06
urlin2u	rokra, do you have the W7 disc?	08:06
samy3	KE1HA, sudo apt-get upgrade ... done	08:06
samy3	what next?	08:06
wols	bullgard4_: the place you login has NOTHING to do with compiz. at all. what you use to login is the display manager	08:06
JZApples	I have an external RAID 10 array hooked up to my computer via USB, should I add that to fstab and if so, should I just use defaults for the options?????	08:06
KE1HA	samy3: cool, you should probably reboot the box as more than likely there was a Kernel update, then one logged back in, sudo apt-get install dkms	08:07
wols	bullgard4_: and to disable that, my advice from above was the right one	08:07
ikonia	JZApples: usb raid device, doesn't sound like a good idea	08:07
theadmin	bullgard4_: On the bottom of the login manager, AFTER user selection, you should select your keyboard layout	08:07
bullgard4_	wols: My problem seems to be related to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514984.	08:07
samy3	ok KE1HA :)	08:07
JZApples	ikonia, why, it works great.	08:07
theadmin	bullgard4_: If that keyboard layout uses AltGr, it'll work	08:07
wols	JZApples: what filesystem on the raid?	08:07
ikonia	JZApples: is it a hardware raid device ?	08:07
mASOUD_42	why is does not work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/660343/	08:07
JZApples	wols, ext4	08:07
JZApples	ikonia, yes, hardware raid	08:07
ikonia	JZApples: does it auto mount when you plug it in ?	08:08
urlin2u	rokra, lest fix windows firstr follow this link and when you have just W7 booting again run the script and post it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/660344/	08:08
JZApples	ikonia, it does, but it might not always be turned on when the computer boots.	08:08
ikonia	JZApples: then leave it out of fstab	08:08
JZApples	What is the proc row in fstab for?	08:09
theadmin	JZApples: procfs	08:09
theadmin	JZApples: Do not take that out.	08:09
bullgard4_	theadmin: I do not know how I could make good use of your statement: "[10:07]<theadmin>bullgard4_: If that keyboard layout uses AltGr, it'll work". It does not work. If I press a key combination involving a AltGr keypress when keying in my password, Natty ignores this AltGr keypress.	08:10
theadmin	bullgard4_: Before entering your password, look at the bottom. There is a keyboard layout selector.	08:11
theadmin	bullgard4_: Select yours, e.g. "German (Germany)" or whatnot.	08:11
theadmin	bullgard4_: Do not leave it as "US English"	08:11
JZApples	Will you guys review my fstab config before I save it and let me know if something looks fishy? /dev/md0 is a software raid array. http://paste.ubuntu.com/660346/	08:12
bullgard4_	theadmin: I know that it is there. And I have selcted "Germany".	08:12
wols	bullgard4_: is there a "Nodeadkeys" one maybe?	08:12
theadmin	bullgard4_: Okay, now that is totally odd.	08:12
samy3	KE1HA, reboot and when i run sudo apt-get install dkms	08:13
samy3	a error ocurs	08:13
samy3	:(	08:13
theadmin	bullgard4_: Sorry, I just assumed you could've forgotten	08:13
bullgard4_	wols: How can I find this out?	08:13
wildbat	JZApples: use UUID better but looks ok	08:14
wols	bullgard4_: check what gdm offers you for your selection	08:14
KE1HA	samy3: ok do this for us: sudo apt-get install dkms \| pastebinit then post that link fer us.	08:14
punter	Is there an RSS reader software for Ubuntu that will connect to my Google Reader account?	08:14
Generic_Dumbass	so, does anyone actually have a youtube downloader working properly on Ubuntu narwhal? i'm about to stab myself in the face.	08:14
llutz_	bullgard4_: what character do you need, isn't that available in any other (US, FR...) layout?	08:14
JZApples	wildbat, I read that I shouldn't use UUID on the software raid array because it might accidentally only mount one of the drives if I do that. There's technically 4.	08:14
samy3	KE1HA, http://pastebin.com/xMVjRE7p	08:15
ikonia	JZApples: incorrect	08:15
ikonia	JZApples: don't put it in fstab though	08:15
bullgard4_	llutz_: The character '@'.	08:15
JZApples	The directions here told me to include it. http://www.howtogeek.com/51873/how-to-setup-software-raid-for-a-simple-file-server-on-ubuntu/	08:15
ikonia	JZApples: 1.) you are not using software raid 2.) you already have a raid device	08:16
ikonia	JZApples: it's important if you are going to follow guides that they apply to your system	08:16
JZApples	ikonia, i have two raid arrays setup. One software, one hardware.	08:16
ikonia	JZApples: so please don't include it in /etc/fstab	08:16
gulzar	anybody using e17?	08:16
llutz_	bullgard4_: does it work, if you try US-layout,prssing shift-2? just as a workaround until you fix the real bug	08:16
KE1HA	samy3: Ok, i need to look at this fer a minute. Be right back with ya.	08:17
ikonia	JZApples: if it an external device you should not include it in /etc/fstab	08:17
JZApples	ikonia, software RAID in using SATA ports on my mobo. Hardware RAID is external enclosure via USB.	08:17
samy3	KE1HA, take your time :)	08:17
KE1HA	samy3: how did you originally install Virtualbox ?	08:18
wols	KE1HA: do you know what in the logfile referenced in his paste is?	08:18
samy3	if i'm right i think i did it with the synaptic	08:18
wols	KE1HA: line 29	08:18
KE1HA	wols: do I know about it, yes, but I think the porblem is before that, insofaras, Vbox was installed B4 dkms, and that causes the issue.	08:19
rokra	urlin2u: sorry I was on call, windows is working	08:19
rokra	urlin2u: why do I need to fix windows? I can boot on windows	08:20
samy3	KE1HA, now what to do?	08:20
cypha	is there a reason webpages look worse in linux than windows?	08:20
cmanns	man this makes no sense	08:20
KE1HA	samy3: what did you use to install Virtual box originally'?	08:21
cmanns	usb optical mouse works and dmesg shows it unplug/plug	08:21
wols	rokra: how many windows installations do you actually have btw?	08:21
cypha	reading any text in any program is simply worse in linux	08:21
samy3	may be in root	08:21
cmanns	Yet this USB drive that works on my comptuers, win7, osx, other distro's. dmesg reads nothing if i plug it into all usb ports	08:21
urlin2u	rokra, well you could but the files for it were in the incorrect partition at least the boot Bcd, and you have grub in windows now, although you have not run the ubuntu.	08:21
rokra	wols: only1	08:21
cmanns	Anything I can try or am I fubar'd? I already tried with usb legacy enabled/disable	08:21
wols	rokra: the bootinfo script says otherwise	08:21
gulzar	enlightenment was unable to import the theme. Are you sure this is really a valid theme	08:21
KE1HA	wols: the problem he's seeing is, he can't build the vbox kernel module becasue of two things, one, dkms wasn't installed and two, theres been kernel changes before he did the update/upgrade.	08:22
urlin2u	rokra, here is what the line in your script should be Boot files/dirs: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe	08:22
rokra	wols: mm I understand why, before I was running win7 on the sata disk ( sdb) , then I bought the ssd disk and I reinstalled the win7 on the ssd disk which the sda.	08:22
wols	KE1HA: and you know that why? e.g. what is in the build log exactly?	08:23
rokra	wols: maybe there is some old track of the win7 on sdb	08:23
urlin2u	rokra, here is yours notice the difference. Boot files: /Windows/System32/winload.exe /boot/grub/core.img	08:23
cypha	how do I know if i'm running alsa for sound?	08:24
wols	rokra: last I checked, grub had a device.map, what's in that file?	08:24
KE1HA	wols: ok, well if you think Im worng, by all means, plase do assist.	08:24
wols	KE1HA: I'm just asking what is in the build log. any way to get at it?	08:24
mASOUD_42	cypha : ps aux \| grep alsa	08:25
rokra	wols: map for tomtom?	08:25
cypha	mASOUD_42: just something about color	08:25
bullgard4_	llutz_: My Natty interprets the key combination Alt+2 as "Pos1" (= jump to the first position in a line). -- I have found out another workaround: I can log in as another user.	08:25
cypha	--color	08:25
rokra	wols: :D , seriously I don t know	08:25
mASOUD_42	cypha so nothing called alsa is running	08:26
KE1HA	If he goes and looks at the dir listed, he can cat \| pastebinit, but he' need to remove Vbox, install dkms, ensure the new kerneel headers are there and reinstall Vbox.	08:26
gulzar	getting this while importing e17 theme.... enlightenment was unable to import the theme. Are you sure this is really a valid theme. How to solve it?	08:26
cypha	mASOUD_42: how can I figure out what i'm using for sound?	08:26
mASOUD_42	cypha: ps aux\|grep sound	08:27
cypha	mASOUD_42: still nothing	08:27
rokra	urlin2u: If I understand I have 2 boot files	08:27
sherorox	how do I copy a file on my desktop using the terminal?	08:27
mASOUD_42	cyphia: you have any sound?	08:27
mASOUD_42	sherorox: man cp	08:28
KE1HA	samy3: Please see PM	08:28
urlin2u	rokra, what we have here is to many irons in the fire helping you, and a misunderstanding on what shold be whre.	08:28
cypha	mASOUD_42: actually no	08:28
cypha	how do I fix this??	08:28
urlin2u	rokra, if you had removed the sdb HD before the grub install W7 would not have booted.	08:29
wrtiii	10.04 LTS Install from USB. Used unetbootin to create install usb. about 3rd step in install I get an error mounting CD-Rom. Tell it to try again and it comes up saying it couldn't want to try again. I say no and install will not proceed.	08:29
sherorox	mASOUD_42: cp and then the name of the file?	08:29
bullgard4_	wols: "[10:14]<wols>bullgard4_: check what gdm offers you for your selection" <-- How can I check that?	08:29
wrtiii	Seems it is looking for an installation CD rather than trying to continue install from usb stick?	08:30
sherorox	mASOUD_42: where do I specify location	08:30
LarsT	Hello!	08:30
mASOUD_42	sherorox: yea like this : cp fileUWantToCopy Where	08:30
wols	bullgard4_: by pressing the "down" thing in the combobox?	08:30
mASOUD_42	sherorox: like: cp file.zip /usr/home	08:31
cmanns	Anybody know why USB would not output anything in dmesg when usb drive is plugged in/disconnected but other devices do?	08:31
sherorox	mASOUD_42: How do I put it on the desktop	08:31
mASOUD_42	sherorox: where is it now?	08:31
Generic_Dumbass	Just in case this is being logged, THIS works on Ubuntu 11.04: http://www.chromeextensions.org/other/youtube-downloader-extension/	08:32
sherorox	mASOUD_42: on the desktop	08:32
Generic_Dumbass	thank god.	08:32
mASOUD_42	sherorox: and you want to copy it to where?	08:32
sherorox	mASOUD_42: on the desktop	08:32
mASOUD_42	O_o	08:32
sherorox	mASOUD_42: I don't know how to use the terminal lol. Im trying to learn because I fail at tutorials	08:33
sherorox	mASOUD_42: "community documents" is what I meant	08:33
theadmin	Generic_Dumbass: This channel IS logged.	08:34
mASOUD_42	sherorox: ok you need to know where the file is and where you want it to be .then cp whereisitnow whereyouwant	08:34
sherorox	mASOUD_42: how do I say its on the desktop	08:35
bullgard4_	wols: "Do you mean the third column of gdm? My gdm offers a menu with the following items: Recovery Console, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No effects), Ubuntu (Safe Mode), and User Defined Session.	08:35
mASOUD_42	sherorox: Desktop: ~/Desktop	08:35
wols	bullgard4_: I mean the slection where you choose keyboard layouts. not your choice of DE...	08:35
cypha	i'm getting no sound	08:36
cypha	can someone help?	08:36
mASOUD_42	sherorox: while ~ is same as /home/USERNAME	08:36
cypha	how can I solve this problem from the command line	08:37
urlin2u	rokra, when you installed grub you put it in sda1 when it should have been sda5, and in the W7 install the boot Bcd were put in sdb1 instead of sda1.	08:37
cypha	?	08:37
wols	urlin2u: he didn't put it in sda1 at all	08:37
sherorox	mASOUD_42: It won't let me make a copy of it. It says its the same file. Is there a way for me to change its name?	08:38
urlin2u	wols, from their boot script /Windows/System32/winload.exe /boot/grub/core.img	08:38
Kiwini	hey all, I tried out file sharing on my two machines, one was actually just a live usb to test, and now I can't get rid of the Ubuntu listing in my network, any ideas?	08:38
mASOUD_42	cypha : try sudo apt-get install indicator-sound	08:38
cypha	mASOUD_42: I'm running openbox, btw	08:39
cypha	not gnome	08:39
urlin2u	wols, ubuntu hasn't booted the grub image can be removed in several way but that is sda1	08:39
wols	urlin2u: it actually doesn't matter (much) where stage1 is	08:39
wols	urlin2u: his main problem is that for BIOS, his sdb seems to be harddisk 0x80	08:39
mASOUD_42	cypha : srry i dont even know what is open box	08:39
cypha	mASOUD_42: it didn't install anything	08:40
cypha	i think i already had that package	08:40
urlin2u	wols, correct but it helps to hce the boot bcd in the correct partition, otherwise it may be troublesome if sdb hd is removed as sdb1 is where they are.	08:40
rokra	urlin2u: wols to be honest , I m lost in your conversation :p	08:40
bullgard4_	wols: As a keyboard my gdm allows me to select either »Gemany«, »USA« or »Other...«. When pressing »Other...«, another menu appears showing a large list of items. Even for Germany it allows me to selct 15 different items. For example »Germany without accent keys«. -- Which one should I try?	08:41
wols	cypha: lsmod \| grep ^snd if you see several modules, you run alsa	08:41
cypha	yes i do	08:41
cypha	wols	08:41
cypha	basically, openbox prevents anything from running at startup	08:42
cypha	so I need to know how to manually start alsa i think	08:42
wols	bullgard4_: any not sure. ubuntu's naming is too "friendly" and not really standard for me	08:42
rokra	urlin2u: wols concerning sdb , indeed it seems to be the boot disk and it s not fine because it s only for storage, so is it possible to move the boot on the sda?	08:42
wols	cypha: it's already started. it's a kernel module...	08:42
cmanns	I also did lsusb and it doesn't show there either	08:42
wols	cypha: run alsamixer and see if your channels are unmuted	08:42
urlin2u	rokra, yes I posted a link to the commands from a W7 disc.	08:43
wols	cmanns: you sure the hardware is actually working? not a dead usb stick?	08:43
wols	urlin2u: changing boot order is done in BIOS only	08:43
cmanns	As said way up in the back log it works on almost a dozen different OS's	08:43
vindolin	someone else here with Intel 4965 wireless? my connection keeps crashing.. i have to reboot to get it working again :( dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/401992/	08:43
vindolin	^ 11.04	08:43
cmanns	Thus I'm kinda confused why dmesg doesn't say when it's unplugged but it tells me when a mouse is, I read on ubuntu forums oddly formatted usb drives can fail automount?	08:43
cmanns	Wont they still spit out debug info in dmesg?	08:44
ugly	Any one know y ddi would tell me the image is too big when trying to copy a hd image to a file stored on an external 1gb? It only copies 4.3gb of the drive	08:44
wols	cmanns: kernel has nothing to do with automount or formatting	08:44
cypha	wols, yes they are	08:44
wols	ugly: your external drive is FAT formatted. that filesytem doesn't allow big files	08:44
cmanns	wols, I didn't say kernel, I said oddly formatted usb drives.	08:44
wols	cmanns: and I said the kernel doesn't care about formatting	08:45
cypha	wols, when I switched from kde to openbox, it worked fine, because whatever apps were already started in kde, stayed running when i changed to openbox	08:45
urlin2u	wols, why don't you take car of this as it has become rather ridiculous. ;)	08:45
cmanns	ah ok	08:45
cypha	however, ever since I restarted into openbox, sound hasn't worked	08:45
cmanns	Then what would cause this or any potential tips to fix it? All topics on ubuntu forums are saying ur stick is dead or formatted odd...	08:45
cypha	basically, because openbox doesn't inherit the autostart settings that were in kde	08:45
ugly	Crap you are right I didn't think about that... Anyway to defeat that without reformating the drive?	08:46
rokra	urlin2u: I m going to follow your instructions	08:46
wols	cmanns: "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" or any other wav file	08:46
urlin2u	wols, when they posted move the boot to sda1, I assume they mean the boot bcd.	08:47
wols	ugly: either split the file or reformat the drive	08:47
rokra	urlin2u: I m going to start the win7 cd to repair	08:48
rokra	urlin2u: cy	08:48
wols	ugly: from what I see he has grub on sda and the windows MBR on sdb. but he never sees a grub menu or error message but straight boots into windows. that means I think, the BIOS is set to boot from sdb first. the only way to fix this properly is to go into BIOS and use the SSD to boot first and be hdd 0x80	08:48
wols	urlin2u: ^^	08:48
bobbyhays	#go-nuts	08:48
theadmin	cmanns: Another quick way to test sound that will work without a .wav file: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp	08:49
cmanns	wols, huh?	08:49
urlin2u	wols, hey personally like you we just want them fixed.;)	08:49
cmanns	I'm not trying to test sound, I'm the guy who's working usb stick wont read or output to lsusb/fdisk -l /dmesg	08:49
sherorox	mASOUD_42: the command mkdir. How do I specify where I want to create the directory	08:49
wols	cmanns: you and cypha start both with c. not enough letters typed for autocomplete. have you tried a reboot? maybe your kernel got confused by your switching around the usb devices? but that's a WAG	08:50
Kiwini	Anyone available to possibly help me with some smb troubles? I can't seem to remove a computer from the network list that no longer shares.	08:50
wols	theadmin: groan	08:50
wrtiii	Ok, So 10.04 LTS Install - I get the error: [!] Load Installer Components from CD -- There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM. -- Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry? retrying does nothing, selecting NO gives an installation failure. I have tried editing the boot line	08:50
wrtiii	and adding cdrom-detect/try-usb=true after the ***.seed and before the quiet argument. Could use some help with this please I am not finding much else for results on google :(	08:50
r12k4rd0	hello guys I need help about gnome sharing with the application gnome-file-share-properties of Gnome.	08:50
cmanns	It's cool wols not nagging I always appriciate y'alls help :)	08:51
r12k4rd0	Is there anyone can help me?	08:51
mASOUD_42	sherorox: simply put it in front of mkdir like : mkdir ~/Desktop/testdir	08:51
cmanns	I've tried reboots, usb legacy on/off, and a few other things too. It never outputs to dmesg yet an usb mouse will, tried all 3 usb ports, etc	08:51
ugly	So I can use Dd to split the image then during restore use dd if=image{1-x} of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k to restore	08:51
cmanns	Working on blacklisting uneeded kos	08:51
mASOUD_42	cmanns: test the usb stick on some other pc .see if it's actually working	08:52
wols	ugly: man split	08:53
ugly	So I can use Dd to split the image then during restore use dd if=image{1-x} of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k to restore?	08:53
cmanns	I have, I used another computer to put the data I need to grub boot on the USB :-)	08:53
cmanns	it's readable/works fine	08:53
wols	cmanns: does it work with the ubuntu live cd?	08:53
ugly	Ok ill Google too	08:53
ugly	Thanx	08:53
cmanns	wols, what you mean?	08:53
wols	cmanns: boot from the ubuntu live cd, plug it in. does the kernel recognize it in any way then?	08:54
cmanns	wols, I'm the guy who came for days about PXE...	08:54
wols	cmanns: or maybe can you plug it in and then paste dmesg \| tail ?	08:54
cmanns	I'll try the net installer from PXE in a bit when I reboot os's on this pc	08:54
cmanns	Sure but there is absolutely no info about it in dmesg at all (I've sysadmin'd linux for over 6 years) I've seen this once before but this isn't one of those Sandisk's that fail on lots of OS's thus I came to you guys incase theres boot options to fix usb	08:55
sherorox	mASOUD_42: whats the point of rmdir if rm -r deletes occupied and empty directories?	08:56
lotuspsychje	anyone knows a logo desginer package for ubuntu?	08:57
cmanns	sherorox, -r is recrusive	08:57
cmanns	Try man rm :-)	08:57
wols	cmanns: if it works everywhere else but never on this PC, then it's a hardware problem	08:57
cmanns	Yes I'm sure it is (This laptop is fubar'd with ubuntu)	08:57
Ascavasaion	the past few times I started my Ubuntu machine the volume control has disappeared off the top bar. any ideas how to get it back?	08:57
wols	cmanns: unless you can show us another linux distro running on this PC where it does work. only then it is a ubuntu kernel problem	08:57
sherorox	cmanns: whats does recursive do?	08:57
cmanns	so I was mostly interested in any boot options or something to potentially fix usb	08:58
cmanns	sherorox, please learn2google	08:58
wols	cmanns: there are no magical "fix" things	08:58
cmanns	Sometimes :-(	08:58
sherorox	cmanns: I did im on ubuntus help page right now. But its too hard for me to understand. im only 12	08:58
cmanns	:\|	08:59
cmanns	Since when they let 12 year olds on irc	08:59
sherorox	...	08:59
Ascavasaion	aaaah, I figured it out... added Indicator Applet.	08:59
cmanns	sherorox, http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/	08:59
mASOUD_42	sherorox: its seems that rmdir only deletes empty dirs. but rm does delete non empty ones too	09:00
cmanns	Anyways rm is remove, what does recrusive mean? Well if you don't know that I'm not your school teacher but it will keep going	09:00
Lasers	!recursive	09:00
cmanns	rmdir only removes dir's, like rm -rf / would delete everything under / it could	09:00
astraljava	cmanns: Please, mind your manners. No age-discrimation here, thank you.	09:00
* cmanns lol's on a time long ago he got an OS X user to do rm -rf /some-important-osx-dir due to him not reading about unix and it's commands		09:01
cmanns	I'm not discriminating but my parents didn't let me on the internet, and I know other parents who don't still today.	09:01
astraljava	It's still someone else's call to make, not ours.	09:02
rokra	urlin2u: back	09:02
rokra	urlin2u: now I have bootmgr is missing at boot	09:02
rokra	urlin2u: looking to download the bootinfscript	09:02
cmanns	of course astraljava - twas just speaking an opinion not agecisting. I'd never harrass a child :P	09:02
flo	hello, I've just typed for about half an our into a contact form on the web. when I submitted, the website said: "session expired, please reconnect". so now all what I typed is lost. Or is there a way to find what I typed somewhere, maybe in the cache?	09:03
wols	flo: you might be able to press the "back" button in your browser.	09:03
urlin2u	rokra, correct W7 boots on it's own right?	09:03
astraljava	cmanns: Good. Just we gotta be careful with our wordings, that's all. Thanks for understanding! :)	09:04
flo	wols, yeah, I've tried that but it didn't work. I got back to the homepage.	09:04
cmanns	np :)	09:04
rokra	urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/8RG9z9Mc	09:04
mASOUD_42	sherorox: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php	09:04
phnom	sherorox: Maybe this will make it clearer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rmdir	09:04
rokra	urlin2u: nothing boot now	09:04
rokra	urlin2u: no win7 , no ubuntu , only live cd	09:04
cypha	wols, yeah the mixer was muted =/	09:05
urlin2u	rokra, you have grub in the sda1 you can remove it from the live natty cd, open W7 and go to the boot section and remove anything called grub.	09:05
cypha	i gotta figure out which system tray volume controller i like best now	09:06
rokra	urlin2u: what is open W7?	09:06
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urlin2u	rokra, if you open home on the live natty cd in the left panel is the W& partiton click it to open it go to boot and remove grub.	09:07
urlin2u	W7	09:07
cypha	wols: where would you keep the application files for a system tray volume controller?	09:08
Machtin	hi there! Any idea why it might be that I can use s/pdif in vlc, but my browsers won't play sound?	09:08
rokra	urlin2u: sorry I don t get it , I m on the live CD , I need to open /dev/sda1 which is my win7 partition?	09:09
urlin2u	rokra, when you open W7 you will see this open the boot file and look for a grub file. http://imagebin.org/166779	09:09
rokra	urlin2u: yes right	09:10
urlin2u	rokra, yes you have grub in the sda1 it should not be there.	09:10
bullgard4_	Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?	09:10
rokra	urlin2u: so I have to delete the grub folder ?	09:10
rokra	urlin2u: I have to delete the /boot/grub folder in the win7 partition?	09:11
urlin2u	rokra, I'm assuming here that you ran the commands I posted the boot bcd is now in the correct place, also open gparted and remove the boot flag from sdb1	09:11
urlin2u	rokra, yes, anything grub in windows is poison.	09:11
rokra	urlin2u: yes I ran the previous command from the w7 cd, bootrec...	09:12
smokleycastle	Hi I got this error when trying to update ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/4dhUeuka	09:12
urlin2u	rokra, all 4 commands?	09:12
rokra	urlin2u: I can remove the /boot folder as well? ( Yes the 4 commands	09:12
urlin2u	rokra, only remove grub marked stuff .	09:13
rokra	urlin2u: I did the fixmbr, fixboot, scanos , rebuildbcd	09:13
ugly	Awesome so now I could cat /image.gz* ¦ V	09:13
rokra	urlin2u: ok done	09:13
netking	How do I install scrot from bash ?	09:13
urlin2u	rokra, run the script again.	09:13
mASOUD_42	netking: sudo apt-get install scrot	09:13
rokra	urlin2u: 2s I removing the boot flag on sdb	09:14
smokleycastle	Hi I got this error when trying to update ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/4dhUeuka anyone have any ideas?	09:14
urlin2u	rokra, cool that is a not needed flag.	09:14
theadmin	smokleycastle: It appears to me that Ubuntu developers messed something up	09:14
netking	install: missing destination file operand after `scrot'	09:14
urlin2u	rokra, run the script again so we can see that grub is completely gone.	09:15
theadmin	smokleycastle: Report a bug with "ubuntu-bug update-manager" and wait for them to fix it (as if)	09:15
urlin2u	from W7	09:15
smokleycastle	theadmin I thought ubuntu had a vibrant developer community?	09:15
rokra	urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/xq1HvMsY	09:15
ugly	Now I can use cat /image.gz* ¦ gzip -dc ¦ dd of=/dev/hda1 conv=noerror, sync bs=4k when I want to restore	09:15
wols	netking: what command did you run exactly?	09:15
theadmin	smokleycastle: Honestly, they're very lazy and detached	09:15
llutz_	ugly: use zcat, no gzip needed	09:16
smokleycastle	theadmin which is the best release of debian to ensure a good service?	09:16
wols	smokleycastle: you are in the wrong channel for debian...	09:17
theadmin	smokleycastle: I sent you a pm.	09:17
jpds	theadmin, smokleycastle: Already done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/442941	09:17
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 442941 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "debconf failed to upgrade from 1.5.27ubuntu1 to 1.5.27ubuntu2: exit status 128 - Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66" [Medium,Fix committed]	09:17
jpds	theadmin: Who's lazy now?	09:18
theadmin	jpds: There's a ton of unfixed bugs I bet :P	09:18
urlin2u	rokra, so still see grub there and you are missing this as well in windows 7, /bootmgr	09:18
smokleycastle	what is a good release of linux for a newbie?	09:19
astraljava	theadmin: #ubuntu-bugs when you're willing to help out with those	09:19
theadmin	smokleycastle: Please switch to PM	09:19
theadmin	astraljava: Help Ubuntu? Do I look THAT crazy?	09:19
jpds	theadmin: That's true for every software package.	09:19
urlin2u	rokra, do you have the commands I posted saved so you can copy and paste them from the W7 command line on the booted disc.	09:19
rokra	urlin2u: mistake the new one is posted here http://pastebin.com/yyt5Es5k	09:19
smokleycastle	theadmin i am using bitchx via an ssh connection from a centos vps through bash, I dont know how to switch to pm	09:19
rokra	urlin2u: which commands?	09:20
astraljava	smokleycastle: Meant to /msg theadmin <message_to_theadmin> but yeah, take it out of here, irrelevant.	09:20
urlin2u	rokra, well grub is gone the /bootmgr is missing though, if it was me I would boot the W7 disc again run the 4 commands and it should boot straight to W7 then,	09:21
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urlin2u	rokra, if that happens we will install grub and call it a day.	09:21
rokra	urlin2u: so I going back to the win7 cd	09:21
astraljava	smokleycastle: I'd start with the LTS release, which would be 10.04 at this time.	09:22
rokra	urlin2u: cy in 10m	09:22
urlin2u	rokra, personally I would I would want evcerything in iy=ts place.	09:22
wrtiii	I have installed 2 x 160 GB Sata Drives in my server. My intention is to use clonezilla to create an image of the primary drive on the second drive once I have my installation stable but before I attempt anything new. Is clonezilla the best route for this? Is there a way to have the drive in the system at all times but have linux not recognize/mount? it as to ensure there is noway that disk	09:22
wrtiii	could get corrupted but still have it easily accesible when I boot to clonezilla for either restoring or saving an image?	09:22
astraljava	smokleycastle: Then when the need arises (missing drivers for some peripherals or whatever), you could upgrade/install a newer release.	09:22
Machtin	Any idea why it might be that I can use toslink in vlc, but my browsers won't play sound in flash and html5 (guess in everything else that has sound, too)?	09:23
sudokill	wrtiii, clonezilla is good yes	09:23
sudokill	wrtiii, it checks that the image is restorable and has always been good for me	09:23
jp_Hranice	I need help. I have posible bug. During installing I can't fill My name, Computer name, Password, ...	09:24
wrtiii	sudokill: thanks, just keep thinking that ubuntu might have it's own app for this sort of thing or somethin, lol	09:24
theadmin	jp_Hranice: Can't fill? Are they greyed out? Or just can't type?	09:24
sudokill	wrtiii, i havent tried any others except acronis. i think for pure imaging clonezilla is very good	09:25
rokra	urlin2u: I started the laptop to stay online	09:25
wrtiii	Now I just gotta find another usb to configure for it ;)	09:26
jp_Hranice	theadmin: It§ filled by gray signs for fill and i cant place cursor there.	09:26
sudokill	jp_Hranice, maybe the livecd hasnt finished loading, try rebooting if it hangs	09:27
sudokill	and try again	09:27
urlin2u	rokra, good idea I think you are about set the commands should set the W7 correct, and if it boots staright in I will give you the commands for seting up grub.	09:27
sudokill	sometimes it can just bug up like that	09:27
theadmin	sudokill's right, jp_Hranice, this does happen from time to time, do try a reboot	09:27
rokra	urlin2u: wait win7 boot cd is slow	09:27
jp_Hranice	theadmin: It's during installing alfa 3	09:27
urlin2u	rokra, the commnds for grub from the natty cd booted after you get windows 7 to boot.	09:27
theadmin	jp_Hranice: Alpha? Do you mean you're messing with Ubuntu 11.10?	09:28
sudokill	jp_Hranice, oh if its alpha maybe it is a bug	09:28
urlin2u	rokra, is it a recovery, usually it is a dvd?	09:28
theadmin	jp_Hranice: If that's true for you, do visit #ubuntu+1	09:28
ugly	llutz: that makes sense. zcat /image.gz* ¦ dd of=/dev/hda1	09:28
rokra	urlin2u: dvd installation in monde repair	09:28
bullgard4_	Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?	09:28
jp_Hranice	theadmin: OK, thanks	09:28
llutz_	ugly: zcat image >/dev/hda1	09:28
rokra	urlin2u: ok it is searching for error	09:28
urlin2u	rokra, sometimes it will run a autofix.	09:29
rokra	urlin2u: automatically it detected a problem with the windows boot manager	09:29
rokra	urlin2u: I applied this thing or it s better to go by cmd and type your 4 commands?	09:29
urlin2u	rokra, it may fix it, with grub in there before it wouldn't runn probably.	09:29
theadmin	bullgard4_: Likely related to gnome, I think, if it reports it via a GUI	09:30
trijntje	Hi all, I'm stuck with unmet dependencies so I cant install or remove anything. I've already tried sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, with no effect. What else can I do to get this sorted out?	09:30
rokra	urlin2u: I did fix it auto	09:30
rokra	urlin2u: ok bootmgr is missing	09:30
urlin2u	rokra, if it is not a auto repair go to the command line and run the commands the autorepair can take forever and is suggested to be run 3 times.	09:30
ugly	Tnx lluz	09:31
theadmin	trijntje: If you have aptitude installed, try using that	09:31
urlin2u	rokra, did it notice the missing part?	09:31
theadmin	trijntje: It reports problems in a very descriptive way	09:31
rokra	urlin2u: yes it notice a problem with the windows boot mlanager	09:31
ugly	It is multiple files will zcat still work by combing all of them?	09:32
urlin2u	rokra,yo can reboot and se if it works, if not just reboot and run the commands your choice really.	09:32
ugly	In order?	09:32
trijntje	theadmin: I have aptitude installed, running it now	09:32
rokra	urlin2u: it is not working , i have again the bootmgr is missing at boot	09:33
JZApples	Anyone have any ideas for this error? I get it when trying to send an email via mdadm. sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory	09:33
bullgard4_	theadmin: The package "gnome" is not installed. So I shluld not reference it.	09:33
urlin2u	rokra, boot the W7 disc and run the 4 commands that should fix it.	09:34
llutz_	JZApples: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix	09:34
theadmin	bullgard4_: What about "ubuntu-desktop"?	09:34
rokra	urlin2u: this is booting on the win7 cd	09:34
urlin2u	rokra, correct here is the link again just to be sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/660344/	09:35
bullgard4_	theadmin: Ubuntu does not provide a package "ubuntu-desktop".	09:35
trijntje	theadmin: this is the output aptitude gives: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660374/	09:35
LarsT	it does	09:35
rokra	urlin2u: thanks but I got it :p	09:35
bullgard4_	!prefix \| LarsT	09:36
ubottu	LarsT: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	09:36
gedO	Hello. I'm trying to run Mass Effect on Ubuntu 10.10. Where I can get help for this????	09:36
urlin2u	rokra, figured you did, but just wanted to make sure.;)	09:36
theadmin	gedO: In #winehq and at http://winehq.org	09:36
gedO	Is there any wine chanel?	09:36
samy3	<3 ya ke1ha	09:36
JZApples	Can I use postfix with my hotmail account?	09:36
ikonia	JZApples: in what way ?	09:36
gedO	theadmin: Thank you	09:36
LarsT	I want to change from Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit to Canonical Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3. Is it usuable or better to take 9.04 ?	09:36
rokra	urlin2u: ready to go	09:36
JZApples	ikonia, just to send an email if mdadm reports an error.	09:37
rokra	urlin2u: so first succesfully	09:37
ikonia	JZApples: that's nothing to do with hotmail	09:37
theadmin	trijntje: Huh... wow, this is a mess, I can't make sense of it :(	09:37
theadmin	trijntje: Ask someone with a better APT knowledge I guess, sorry.	09:37
JZApples	ikonia, can i use it to send my hotmail account an email? how do i configure it for that?	09:38
rokra	urlin2u: the first time the scanos show me total identified installation : 1	09:38
rokra	urlin2u: now I have 0	09:38
ikonia	JZApples: postfix is just an mta - you need a client to send the mail	09:38
llutz_	JZApples: just use a nullmailer, msmtp or ssmtp for that task, much easier than postfix	09:38
JZApples	and i can do that with mdadm?	09:39
llutz_	JZApples: i don't know how mdadm sends mails, but it should work	09:39
urlin2u	rokra, are you sure you removed the bootflag from sdb1 not sda1	09:39
wols	trijntje: apt-cache policy libjack0 and apt-cache policy libjack-jackd2	09:40
* theadmin doesn't even know what a mdadm is		09:40
wols	theadmin: raid configuration utility	09:40
trijntje	theadmin: no problem, thanks for your time	09:40
theadmin	wols: ...Okay, how on Earth can that be related to sending mail?	09:40
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llutz_	theadmin: i guess it sends notifications on errors etc like crond	09:41
rokra	urlin2u: yes sure	09:41
theadmin	llutz_: Ah, would make sense	09:41
ikonia	JZApples: mdadm uses the mail command to send mail	09:41
rokra	urlin2u: should be in the pastebin I did	09:41
rokra	urlin2u: I have not that link because I changed irssi	09:41
rokra	rokra: but you still have this link	09:41
JZApples	ikonia, so how do i configure that?	09:41
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ikonia	JZApples: mail is just the client, you need to configure an mta such as postfix, or a remote smtp relay (such as your ISP's)	09:42
urlin2u	rokra, the W7 showed up I'm not sure of a 1 or 0 there. The last pastebin shows a bootflag on sda1 and sdb1 you did the removal after the pastebin I believe	09:42
trijntje	wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660376/	09:43
wols	trijntje: you installed libjack-jackd2 from some 3rd party repo or ppa which is not available anymore. remove it	09:43
wols	trijntje: the problem happened since you mixed repos	09:44
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urlin2u	rokra, guess since you have the W7 n=bootloader in the sdb hd and the sda hd you want to make sure you running the commands on the sda1 in sda	09:44
trijntje	wols: yeah, i'm running bodhi linux, which uses the natty repo, plus some modifications I think	09:46
wols	!bodhi	09:46
theadmin	trijntje: Unfortunately, we can't support derivs	09:46
theadmin	!derivatives \| trijntje	09:47
ubottu	trijntje: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition	09:47
trijntje	theadmin, wols: I know, I was just hoping there would be some apt or dpkg magick known to get me out of this mess	09:47
trijntje	and since #ubuntu is a really big channel, I thought I'd try it here	09:47
rokra	urlin2u: yyyyess , one thing done	09:47
rokra	urlin2u: windows 7 is back	09:47
theadmin	trijntje: Unfortunately the channel policy does not allow us to support derivs	09:48
rokra	urlin2u: I m able to boot on it , I restart the ubuntu live cd now	09:48
astraljava	trijntje: You need to remove libjack-jackd2, so that libjack0 can be installed. That's all we can do for the matter here.	09:48
mega1_	How do I get ubuntu server 10.04 to format unpartctioned HD space	09:49
theadmin	mega1_: Use fdisk or cfdisk.	09:49
urlin2u	rokra, yipee, yah boot the natty and run sudo fdisk -lu and post that in a pastbin and I will give you the commands to reload grub	09:49
wols	mega1_: first you put that space into a partition. then you create a filesystem on that	09:49
trijntje	theadmin, wols: I understand. Thanks a lot for you time, I will try the bodhi forum if I cant work it out	09:50
kamenka	всем привет	09:50
IdleOne	!ru	09:50
ubottu	Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke	09:50
theadmin	Wow, now this message makes no sense xD	09:51
adewisman	need help can install natty because apic setting in my toshiba satellite A50 is disable but I don't know how to enable it, always get I/O error each time I try to Install natty anyone has an Idea please ?	09:51
adewisman	*cant	09:51
theadmin	It says, literally, "Please visit /join #ubuntu-ru to receive help in Russian"	09:51
wrtiii	wols: Still awake?	09:51
adewisman	!register	09:51
ubottu	Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	09:51
theadmin	IdleOne: Can you remove that /join out of the latinization of the !ru factoid? It's senseless :D	09:51
urlin2u	theadmin, you would know. ;)	09:51
wols	wrtiii: it's noon...	09:52
IdleOne	theadmin: I agree it is senseless but it follows our factoid syntax for !LoCo channels. We give them the full command to join a channel because many new users don't know it.	09:52
theadmin	urlin2u: Yes, I would, I'm Russian	09:52
theadmin	IdleOne: Then, replace "posetite" (visit) with "naberite" (type)	09:53
wols	adewisman: noapic as boot parameter?	09:53
rokra	urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/ucEHVsRw	09:53
urlin2u	theadmin, I figured as such or at least spoke it.	09:53
IdleOne	theadmin: Please submit a edit /msg ubottu !ru is <reply> blah blah...	09:53
adewisman	wols: checklist it ?	09:53
urlin2u	rokra, first command sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt	09:54
theadmin	IdleOne: Roger.	09:54
JZApples	Now I get this error: sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found	09:54
urlin2u	rokra, let me know when run I will give you te second	09:55
rokra	urlin2u: ready	09:55
urlin2u	rokra, did you run the first command I just posted	09:55
rokra	urlin2u: yes	09:55
raj	Hello friends, I am having some trouble in installing LAMP. Cant install apach2 because of dependency... any help please	09:55
urlin2u	rokra now this one sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda	09:55
ugly	Can't sleep... Gonna tripple boot winblows, ubuntu, macosx	09:56
rokra	urlin2u: done	09:56
urlin2u	rokra, now rebot after second command you should see the grub menu then	09:56
rokra	urlin2u: ok I reboot cy	09:56
theadmin	IdleOne: Actually, never mind, I currently have encoding problems and therefore cannot type Russian characters (neither read, but I can see the latinization anyhow...)	09:56
urlin2u	rokra, reboot to the grub menu and boot into ubuntu	09:56
IdleOne	theadmin: no problem, whenever you can do it it would be appreciated.	09:57
theadmin	IdleOne: If you can tell me how to configure PuTTY to properly use Unicode, then sure.	09:57
raj	http://paste.ubuntu.com/660382/ Here is the log of my Apache2 instalation dependency... Any help will be great	09:57
IdleOne	theadmin: no clue sorry	09:57
llutz_	theadmin: putty - translation - UTF8	09:58
theadmin	llutz_: Tried that already, still receive stuff like "\u1203" from ubottu	09:58
theadmin	llutz_: Oh, wait, it's UTF8, not "UTF-8"?	10:00
raj	register roopa	10:00
llutz_	theadmin: UTF-8 is correct	10:01
theadmin	llutz_: Hm...	10:01
adewisman	wols: already tried to boot with noapic, after the boot screen appeared, it went blank, its so frustrating, I tried to Install jaunty and it works flawlessly	10:01
astraljava	raj: Could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?	10:01
wols	adewisman: nomodeset as well then	10:01
rokra	urlin2u: yess it worked	10:01
wols	adewisman: or alternate installer	10:02
theadmin	éöóêåí - Does this look Russian to anyone, now?	10:02
urlin2u	rokra, good deal now in ubuntu run sudo update-grub you should see W7 in the menu list.	10:02
wols	theadmin: no	10:02
szal	theadmin: no	10:02
wols	theadmin: irssi?	10:02
theadmin	wols: Yeah...	10:02
theadmin	wols: The Windows package provided on irssi.org specifically	10:03
theadmin	wols: It uses PuTTY in some way	10:03
adewisman	wols: already doing alternate install, just curious why cant I install a fresh natty instead wierd stuff	10:03
wols	theadmin: no. uses cygwin	10:03
theadmin	wols: Meh, the window title is "Cygterm - PuTTY", and settings are same as PuTTY's.	10:03
raj	@astralijava:http://paste.ubuntu.com/660384/	10:03
krazykrivda	i'm having issues mounting: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000) but i cannot modify files there even as root	10:03
szal	"!ru is <reply>Пожалуйста наберите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. \| Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke." <- theadmin: if you can read the Cyrillic here, would that be correct?	10:03
urlin2u	rokra, if you have any questions on all of this feel free to ask.	10:04
rokra	urlin2u: thanks man	10:04
rokra	urlin2u: I have a question	10:04
urlin2u	rokra, no problem .	10:04
theadmin	szal: Unfortunately, still looks like \u041f\u043e...	10:04
theadmin	szal: Could you pastebin it?	10:04
urlin2u	rokra, go for it.	10:04
rokra	urlin2u: lol can I clean the win7 on /dev/sdb1	10:04
szal	theadmin: yes, one sec	10:04
rokra	urlin2u: update-grub found 2 win7	10:04
elky	theadmin and others wishing to discuss this factoid, please go to #ubuntu-irc to do it so that support can continue unhindered here.	10:04
urlin2u	rokra, you mean the mbr?	10:05
rokra	urlin2u: 1 on sda1 and one on sdb1	10:05
rokra	urlin2u: yes	10:05
szal	theadmin: http://www.privatepaste.com/45503f864f	10:05
theadmin	szal: Let's do that.	10:05
astraljava	raj: I'm not sure, but those 4 last lines seem to duplicate repository entries, you already have in. mirror for those. Could you comment them out, run `sudo apt-get update`, then try again?	10:05
raj	@astralijava: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660384/	10:05
urlin2u	rokra, in the sdb1 partition are some file like the boot mgr boo bcd remove them.	10:05
rokra	urlin2u: indeed I have Boot files: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD on /dev/sdb1 , how can i remove that	10:06
urlin2u	rokra, wiping the mbr is risky I think it is just the files there.	10:06
urlin2u	rokra, should be a right click in ubuntu and delete.	10:06
rokra	urlin2u: ok searching the folder	10:07
rokra	urlin2u: thanks	10:07
urlin2u	rokra, ubuntu will remove anything just right click the files and delete then run the update-grub again	10:07
vincentvdBergh	test message	10:08
rokra	urlin2u: yes it workied properly	10:08
rokra	urlin2u: thanks	10:08
oCean	vincentvdBergh: we can read you	10:08
urlin2u	rokra, good deal the update grub just shows the sda1 now.	10:08
rokra	urlin2u: yes	10:09
vincentvdBergh	ok thanks I needed to test my new network I just set up	10:09
kaballasx	??admin > kaballasx	10:09
adewisman	!upgrade > adewisman	10:09
oCean	vincentvdBergh: for further testing purposes please use #test channel	10:09
ubottu	adewisman, please see my private message	10:09
urlin2u	rokra, I think your set, if you ever need to reload the windows n==boot to the mbr again the bootrec.exe /fixmbr is all that is needed. we rab=n the extras to get everything in place.	10:10
rokra	urlin2u: thanks for your advice ,it was nice :) , I have to restart to install the nvidia driver	10:10
urlin2u	rokra, darn netbook keyboard	10:10
theadmin	urlin2u: lol I can feel that	10:11
theadmin	urlin2u: Even my phone is more comfortable than a netbook keyboard	10:11
urlin2u	rokra. no problem glad we got it running.	10:11
ikonia	Jared5552: you're not using sendmail	10:11
rokra	urlin2u: cool with nvidia it s better :)	10:16
urlin2u	rokra, awesome I'm going to crash now see you later.	10:17
rokra	urlin2u: bye	10:17
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mr_daniel	I have a remote server, where I usually modify files with vi or nano. I ssh into it with a normal user account and then later switch to root with su to edit specific files.	10:21
theadmin	mr_daniel: Great, so your problem is?	10:21
mr_daniel	I want to to switch to a GUI-editor, e.g. Noteedit++ on Windows or gedit on Ubuntu. But I don't know how to make a su in a SFTP-session.	10:22
bazhang	mr_daniel, its sudo -i not su	10:22
mr_daniel	So my problem is how can I edit text files in a GUI-editor, where the remote ssh-server only allows nomal users to login, but I need root priveliges to edit specific files	10:22
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bazhang	mr_daniel, gksudo for gui	10:22
mr_daniel	bazhang: well, in my case it is su, because the machines is running Ubuntu Server edition	10:23
wols	mr_daniel: install gedit on the remote box and run an X server at the one you are sitting where the screen and keyboard are	10:23
mr_daniel	wols: maybe this could work	10:24
wols	mr_daniel: and use ssh X forwarding. ssh -X	10:25
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rrajbe	I have tried changing repositry server to main and updated and again tried to install apache2	10:29
rrajbe	but the problem of dependency still persists.... here is a log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/660399/ any help will be really apreciated ...	10:31
astraljava	rrajbe: Could you provide the `sudo apt-get update` output in pastebin, please?	10:32
rrajbe	@astraljava : Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/660401/	10:32
astraljava	rrajbe: Thanks! `apt-cache policy apache2` next, please? :) Seems you have some other repos there, that might be making things weird.	10:34
simonf_	Morning, got a problem trying to change apache2.conf file. Says I don't have permissions. I built server, am only user, and set up as administrator.	10:34
wols	simonf_: ls -l <path to file you want to change>	10:35
astraljava	rrajbe: And while you're at it, please pastebin `ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/`, too.	10:35
simonf_	wols: thanks, I'll give that a go	10:35
squaregoldfish	On a new install of natty, I'm getting constant disk writes of 1Mb every few seconds. iotop says it's jdb that's doing it. I'm using ext4 partitions - any way to reduce the write frequency?	10:36
gralco	The latest Nvidia drivers are making my system freeze, can someone help me out?	10:36
rrajbe	@astraljava : Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/660404/	10:36
wols	squaregoldfish: just don't run jdb?	10:37
rrajbe	@astraljava : that scooter software is bcos i ve installed beyond compare	10:37
wols	gralco: run the ones provided by ubuntu	10:37
gralco	wols: they do as well	10:37
wols	gralco: nvidia drivers are closed source software. what do you expect ubuntu to change?	10:38
squaregoldfish	@wols I thought jdb was the journal manager. Isn't that kind of important?	10:38
szal	gralco: define 'latest Nvidia drivers'	10:38
gralco	szal: anything past 173.xx.xx	10:39
szal	gralco: actual version number you used please	10:39
wols	squaregoldfish: sudo psaux \|grep jdb	10:39
wols	squaregoldfish: sudo ps aux \|grep jdb	10:39
gralco	szal: none atm	10:39
simonf_	wol: that command returned this "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7994 2011-02-22 18:32 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf	10:39
simonf_	"	10:39
szal	gralco: well, which _did_ you use?	10:39
agike	Hi, I keep getting "> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0 gtk+-unix-print-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 gdk-x11-2.0) not met;	10:39
agike	" when trying to install icecat5 .. how do I apt-install their devel versions ?	10:39
wols	gralco: what videocard exactly?	10:40
gralco	szal: most recently 180.13	10:40
squaregoldfish	@wols No processes. Pretty sure it's a kernel thing.	10:40
gralco	wols: 8800m gts	10:40
szal	gralco: for what card?	10:40
wols	simonf_: sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf	10:40
gralco	szal: 8800m gts	10:41
wols	gralco: why do you use legacy nvidia drivers?	10:41
gralco	wols: I'm sorry that was a typo I meant 280.13	10:41
* szal has no idea what the 180 is supposed to be for, but the 8800 runs on nvidia-current (by default 270; it displayed a freezing bug that was fixed in 275 and, afaics, didn't reappear in 280)		10:41
wols	gralco: 280 is not a ubuntu provided driver	10:42
gralco	szal: that doesn't seem to be true for me	10:42
astraljava	rrajbe: Your security repo isn't being indexed, hang on.	10:43
astraljava	rrajbe: Yep, missed it first but it's not in the sources.list at all.	10:44
astraljava	rrajbe: Add the lines found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660413/ to your sources.list, update, and try the installation again.	10:46
* szal still thinks that nVidia have seriously b0rked something w/ the 8800; I remember the cries of dismay when it came out		10:46
szal	iirc it was the first GF8	10:46
fratz	got a ext3 partition, 65GB used space but i only can see a 1,2MB file ...	10:46
spexi	Hi! Is there any way to use two different wallpapers, because I'm having two monitors? Either with one big 3360x1200 wallpaper or separate 1920x1200 and 1440x900 wallpapers. I'm using Natty and with classic view, not Unity.	10:46
wols	szal: it was the longest running card ever. you still can buy it today in form of the gts250	10:47
wols	szal: it's pretty much the most successful nvidia card ever :)	10:47
astraljava	fratz: `du -h --max-depth=1 /path/to/partition` will show you which directories hold the data.	10:47
fratz	thx	10:48
lotuspsychje	lol	10:48
rrajbe	@astraljava : That solved my issue... thanks a lot... :)	10:49
astraljava	rrajbe: Good to hear. No prob. It was pretty damn time you added it anyway, you were missing security updates all along. :)	10:50
simonf_	wol, thanks - that's sorted out the editing of the conf file	10:51
squaregoldfish	@wols I mis-typed. The process is there: root 215 2 0 08:46 ? 00:00:02 [jbd2/sda1-8]	10:52
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fratz	@astraljava du: Zugriff auf „/media/Ext3/Bilder“ nicht möglich: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler	10:53
astraljava	fratz: Don't do deutsch that well, so could you just pastebin the whole output from that command?	10:55
theadmin	astraljava: Access to "/media/Ext3/Bilder" denied: Input-output error	10:55
theadmin	astraljava: That's what it says	10:55
fratz	right	10:56
lotuspsychje	Anyone knows a logo designer package for ubuntu?	10:56
fratz	can i set the terminal to english?	10:56
theadmin	fratz: You could try...	10:57
wols	fratz: LANG=C <command you want to give us the output>	10:57
theadmin	fratz: Try this: LANG=C bash	10:57
jrib	lotuspsychje: inkscape or gimp	10:57
astraljava	fratz: Okay, what if you add sudo in front of the command? And yes, please add what wols and theadmin just suggested.	10:57
wols	squaregoldfish: maybe tune2fs has a setting for it	10:57
lotuspsychje	jrib: gimp is little heavy for what i need	10:57
jrib	lotuspsychje: not sure why that would be a problem, but try inkscape I guess (it's for vector graphics)	10:58
wols	fratz: I am german so I understand the error message. it's "I/O Error". check your kernel log	10:58
fratz	how to check the kernel log?	10:58
theadmin	fratz: It's around /var/log	10:58
lotuspsychje	jrib: i just was wondering if anything specific for logo's existed for ubuntu	10:59
theadmin	fratz: Search for any files that start with "kernel"	10:59
wols	theadmin: it's kern.log there. and in his case, simply dmesg is enough	10:59
jrib	lotuspsychje: I'd say both inkscape and gimp are useful as logo designing tools	10:59
theadmin	wols: Ah, could be true	10:59
=== disse\|off is now known as disse
theadmin	Gosh >.< mutes sound Avast will make me deaf someday	11:00
theadmin	Ahem	11:00
theadmin	Sorry about that	11:00
spyzer	hello everyone, just like i run make clean to clean the *.o files, is there something for automake and autoconf generate files cleaning up action as well??	11:00
jrib	lotuspsychje: maybe blender too if you want to work with 3-d modelling	11:00
spyzer	please tell	11:00
lotuspsychje	jrib: im sure it does proffessionally, but im not really the image editing expert so :p	11:00
wols	theadmin: it also made you stupid by just running AV :P	11:00
spyzer	no?	11:02
cypha	what does %U do after chromium-browser?	11:03
fratz	the ext3 partition is on a external 120GB HDD and the attributes say, that 65GB are used, but the file-browser only shows a single 1,2 MB .xml file	11:03
jrib	cypha: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html	11:04
jrib	cypha: if you drag a url to the .desktop it will open it in chromium	11:04
fratz	du -h .... did tell me, that there are still files on the partition but there is an I/O-Error	11:05
cypha	jrib: what do you mean drag it to .desktop?	11:05
cypha	drag it into a folder called .desktop?	11:05
jrib	cypha: no, drag it the .desktop file for chromium	11:05
cypha	or drag a url to the desktop at all	11:05
MrNthDegree	cypha, IIRC %U means URL	11:05
MrNthDegree	cypha, it's there so when you open a file or URL with it and you get an Open With prompt, selecting Chromium from the list will open it	11:06
MrNthDegree	as GNOME/KDE take their Open With options from the applications list	11:06
cypha	hmm. k	11:06
cypha	so if I run chromium from the command line with the %U, i can do what?	11:07
MrNthDegree	cypha, imagine you have a .htm file you wanna open and it's not already associated ;)	11:07
cypha	k	11:07
MrNthDegree	cypha, makes no difference	11:07
cypha	continue with your example	11:08
cypha	:)	11:08
MrNthDegree	cypha, it's there for the benefit of Open With when you double click unassociated stuff	11:08
lolmatic	hey	11:08
lolmatic	my metacity seems to have a memory leak	11:08
MrNthDegree	cypha, i'll screenshot an example	11:08
ikonia	lolmatic: ok	11:08
lolmatic	it takes up more and more ram over time	11:08
cypha	gracias :)	11:08
ikonia	lolmatic: ok	11:08
MrNthDegree	cypha, http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3971/screenshot0807201112090.png <--- the %U is there for this screen	11:09
MrNthDegree	cypha, in that case, that's an XFCE Open With screen, but there are similar for GNOME and KDE	11:10
Jim_Parsons	hi im on ubuntu now	11:10
rainy	hi	11:10
MrNthDegree	%U means "stick the filename/url here"	11:10
Jim_Parsons	im liking it very mucho	11:10
rainy	!list	11:10
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».	11:10
MrNthDegree	(or it does on GNOME/KDE)	11:10
Jim_Parsons	but i have one problem that my videos doesnt seem to vsync	11:11
Tyrnis	plop all	11:11
Jim_Parsons	i get tearing	11:11
cypha	aaha	11:11
Jim_Parsons	on debian i did not get this	11:11
cypha	now i got it	11:11
ikonia	Tyrnis: ?	11:11
cypha	thanks MrNthDegree! :)	11:11
Jim_Parsons	does anyone know a solution?	11:11
Tyrnis	yep ikonia ?	11:11
ikonia	Tyrnis: plop all ?	11:11
Jim_Parsons	pleases help me ubuntu masters	11:12
Tyrnis	It's only a salutation ^^	11:12
Jim_Parsons	show me ur true power	11:12
ikonia	Tyrnis: normally people say "hello"	11:12
Jim_Parsons	i have a starship in order its weapons are locked onto your position	11:13
Jim_Parsons	i suggest your help me	11:13
Jim_Parsons	orbit*	11:13
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: please stop with the pointless comments	11:13
wrtiii	wols: Are you there? permission to send you a pm?	11:13
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: if someone can and wants to help you, they will	11:13
wols	if you must	11:13
Jim_Parsons	i thought u were all linux geniuses	11:13
Jim_Parsons	how dissapointing	11:13
fratz	astraljava: http://pastebin.de/18126	11:14
Jim_Parsons	maybe i should go back to debian since i like watching movies	11:14
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: ok, bye	11:14
Jim_Parsons	arnt u gonna try to convince me?	11:14
k2lu	^^	11:15
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: no, bye	11:15
Jim_Parsons	if i can fix this video tear issue i would stay with ubuntu forever	11:15
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: sorry, no	11:15
theadmin	Jim_Parsons: We don't work here.	11:15
Jim_Parsons	please ikonia	11:15
theadmin	Jim_Parsons: We're volunteers.	11:15
Jim_Parsons	i know u can help me	11:15
Jim_Parsons	use ur gifts	11:15
astraljava	fratz: Okay, as wols and theadmin suggested, you need to pastebin /var/log/syslog (not all of it, just the relevant parts) so that we can see what the kernel says when it mounts the drive and tries to use it.	11:15
wols	!attitude \| Jim_Parsons	11:15
ubottu	Jim_Parsons: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines	11:15
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: I suggest you go back to #debian	11:15
Jim_Parsons	i beg of you to help me	11:15
wols	ikonia: you bastard!	11:15
Jim_Parsons	for the glory of ubuntu	11:15
astraljava	fratz: There is data, but filesystem browser won't show it because of all the errors.	11:16
html	hi	11:16
theadmin	Oh god now this is a mess...	11:16
Jim_Parsons	and all it stands for open source and open support	11:16
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: I will warn you one last time to stop with the pointless comments	11:16
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: if someone knows the answer and wants to help - they will	11:16
fratz	astraljava: how do i know what relevant parts are?	11:16
theadmin	Hello, html	11:16
Jim_Parsons	someone sounds like a broken record eheheheh	11:16
html	Jim_Parsons, wgat do you need	11:16
lotuspsychje	Jim_Parsons: a good start would be pastebin your logs for errors	11:16
chenthu	how can i kill a process....especially with its process id (PID) ?	11:16
Jim_Parsons	i have video tear issues on ubuntu like vsync wont work	11:16
theadmin	chenthu: kill PID	11:16
wols	chenthu: kill <pid>	11:16
Jim_Parsons	watching movies on vlc and mplayer	11:16
theadmin	chenthu: Or, "killall processname"	11:17
html	theadmin, nice name and easy to spell , and hi back	11:17
Jim_Parsons	they were fine on stock deban	11:17
Jim_Parsons	so i dont see why it would be fine on ubuntu	11:17
chenthu	theadmin and wols : thank you	11:17
Jim_Parsons	wouldnt*	11:17
chenthu	theadmin: whats the diff between kill and kill all?	11:17
astraljava	fratz: All that has /media/Ext3 on it. You can do `grep \/media\/Ext3 /var/log/syslog`, but that might leave out something.	11:17
theadmin	chenthu: killall kills by name	11:17
theadmin	chenthu: kill kills by pid	11:17
chenthu	theadmin: oh ok...thank you	11:18
theadmin	chenthu: pkill does both, I think, but almost never used for some reason	11:18
wols	fratz: what did your kernel log say?	11:18
cypha	can someone tell me how to unbind alt+1 in xterm?	11:18
fratz	astraljava: do i need to unmount the drive before i pastebin /syslog?	11:18
astraljava	fratz: No.	11:18
fratz	acces denied to /var/log/syslog	11:19
astraljava	fratz: Just add sudo in front.	11:19
lotuspsychje	anyone knows snort log location to tail -f realtime in terminal?	11:19
wols	lotuspsychje: all logs are supposed to be in /var/log due to fhs	11:19
html	Jim_Parsons, ahh that mess bug, huh? so you it ot >>> just update and manually and vlc key to the "ubuntu center" and try to update / reboot / a bit of tuime	11:20
lotuspsychje	wols: i found em in syslog.1 but i would love them in seperate instead of syslog.1	11:20
html	Jim_Parsons, can i "IM" you ?	11:21
wols	lotuspsychje: tail -f /var/log/syslog \|grep <snort identifier>	11:21
lotuspsychje	wols: tnx lemme try	11:21
theadmin	!pm \| html	11:21
ubottu	html: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	11:21
fratz	astraljava: sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found	11:22
html	i did ask theadmin .	11:22
edi	Hi guys	11:22
html	hi edi ,	11:22
edi	can you please help me w/ my graphic card output?	11:22
wrtiii	I've been having a large issue with installing linux over the past week. I believe I had finally determined what the problem has been. While partitioning my drives I noticed that the installation usb was labeled hda, with my primary drive being hdb and secondy hdc naturally. Everything appears to go smoothly until I reboot, the pc posts and screen goes to black with a blinking cursor and it	11:22
wrtiii	hangs there. This time I installed as per every other time except when it asked me if I wished to install the bootloader to the mbr I removed the usb stick. It now has given me a fatal error as it is unable to install to hda.	11:22
edi	hi html	11:22
theadmin	html: What I mean is, reply to Jim_Parsons' question here.	11:22
theadmin	html: Not in PM	11:22
wrtiii	Is there something I can do pre installation to correct this, or am I best to replace the usb stick and let it install the bootloader to it. then boot from the usb stick and somehow ( I would need help with this ) install the bootloader to the correct drive after the installation?	11:22
astraljava	fratz: Either open the log file in an editor, like `gksudo gedit /var/log/syslog`, or use the grepping like `sudo grep Ext3 /var/log/syslog`.	11:23
html	theadmin, ok	11:23
wrtiii	I have had this problem across multiple machines and multiple distros. Is this something I am doing incorrectly to end up with the usb stick registered as hda during the installtion?	11:24
blkcrwn	fuck all you hos	11:24
theadmin	!ops \| blk	11:25
ubottu	blk: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!	11:25
theadmin	Oops	11:25
theadmin	...Well whatever that was	11:25
wols	someone really loves us there	11:25
theadmin	wols: lol yep :D	11:25
Trond--	How do I check if Sun JVM is running?	11:26
Trond--	-cp command doesn't work in Terminal	11:26
ikonia	Trond--: cp is "copy"	11:26
fratz	astraljava: http://pastebin.com/TUA7ivbd	11:27
wols	Trond--: cp has nothing to do with checking on a JVM	11:27
Trond--	ok. ty.	11:28
chenthu	wols and theadmin : when ever i kill avahi-daemon, Network Manager and wpa_supplicant process... it automatically restarts	11:29
theadmin	chenthu: You don't kill those	11:30
theadmin	chenthu: Do "sudo service networkmanager stop"	11:30
theadmin	chenthu: And such	11:30
Jim_Parsons	u guys probably dont even believe im runing ubuntu	11:30
fratz	astraljava: reading the log tells ME nothing	11:30
Jim_Parsons	well i got proof	11:30
Jim_Parsons	os[Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.67GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 87.1% free] disk[Total: 148.8GB, 68.8% free] video[Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]	11:30
theadmin	Jim_Parsons: Look, we do beleive, just not everyone can help.	11:30
Jim_Parsons	but i beg of u	11:30
Jim_Parsons	i need to watch star trek ds9	11:30
chenthu	theadmin: and what abt avahi-daemon and wpa-supplicant?...i have to stop those too?	11:30
wols	fratz: last time: what does your kernel say?	11:30
ikonia	Jim_Parsons: if someone can/wants to help, they will	11:31
theadmin	chenthu: I have no idea about wpa_supplicant...	11:31
fratz	wols: http://pastebin.com/TUA7ivbd	11:31
theadmin	chenthu: But avahi, yes	11:31
astraljava	fratz: It just tells us that the system can't read the medium correctly. Are you sure that the drive is alright, and it works flawlessly in some other machine?	11:31
Jim_Parsons	:(	11:31
Titanoboa	ohi.	11:31
theadmin	Jim_Parsons: For the last time, if no one helps, no one can.	11:31
Jim_Parsons	but im jim parsons from the big bang theory	11:31
chenthu	theadmin: ok thank you	11:31
theadmin	ikonia: Thanks.	11:31
Jim_Parsons	that wasnt very nice next time i will kick you 3 times	11:31
Jim_Parsons	but this time consider it a freebie	11:32
wols	Jim_Parsons: or more likely they don't like your attitude and think you are a noisy ***hole. I still don't understand why you aren't just kicked and be done with	11:32
Titanoboa	I'm on ubuntu 11.04 LiveCD, how can I easily check what graphics card I have?	11:32
Sidewinder1	Here comes the ban.	11:32
theadmin	ikonia: And thanks again.	11:32
wols	Titanoboa: lspci -nn	11:32
fratz	astraljava: i checked it on my netbook but there it doesnt even show me the small file	11:32
wols	Titanoboa: lspci -nn \|grep VGA should narrow it down	11:32
chenthu	theadmin: where can i find the interfaces file?	11:32
wols	chenthu: /etc/network/interfaces	11:33
html	wrtiii , not that there are soommme, flash media the just says "F! U" just cuz , and sometimes it works / or is picky, just get a usb ( that is known to work / brand that can do it all ) i have a "travel" usb ( http://tinyurl.com/3llz5rm ),cuz you can allways got smaller but never bigger,,	11:33
theadmin	chenthu: /etc/network/interfaces?	11:33
Flex	is it possible to update your graphics driver on livecd?	11:33
chenthu	theadmin: thank you	11:33
chenthu	wols: thank you :)	11:33
Titanoboa	wols: cool. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] [1002:7142]	11:33
fratz	astraljava: few days ago everything worked fine. While i was doing some backups the process crashed and now its like that	11:33
wols	Titanoboa: congrats. now you know	11:33
theadmin	chenthu: No problem. Altough I wanted to say /etc/network.d originally, but wols corrected me there :D	11:33
wrtiii	html: I have used multiple different usb sticks with the same outcome earlier this week I attempted different usb sticks and multiple distros as well as multiple downloads of the same distros	11:34
wols	Flex: it is afaik, but as soon as you reboot that update is gone	11:34
Flex	wols, how many drivers are there for ati? is there still an unofficial version?	11:34
Titanoboa	now, is it possible to upgrade/enable/update or whatever it so I can play this game I somehow installed to RAM? :) (big tournament today. after that i'll go back to trying to actually install ubuntu_	11:34
astraljava	fratz: Then something went awry, and I don't know how to fix that. I'm sorry. Hope you get someone to help you further.	11:34
html	Jim_Parson it could be ur hardware	11:34
fratz	astraljava: thanks anyway!	11:34
ikonia	html: he's long gone	11:35
wols	Flex: for you, there is "ati" and nothing else	11:35
Flex	Titanoboa, yes it is, as wols said, you won't have it if you reboot, that's all.	11:35
astraljava	fratz: Keep that syslog pastebin entry handy, so that you can present that with the story of 'something went wrong while backuping', it will make a good starting point.	11:35
justmozzy	hey guys. anyone knows if one can integrate the software center with the unity menu?	11:35
mattalexx	Is there a way to enable the Canonical Partner Repository with out "sed"ding around in /etc/apt/sources.list? Maybe a command that will do it?	11:35
theadmin	mattalexx: you can add-apt-repository "deb http://example.org/repo natty main" or whatnot	11:36
theadmin	mattalexx: I don't know the exact address	11:36
theadmin	mattalexx: Nor the exact notation.	11:36
Titanoboa	wols/flex okay so I just go to Ubuntu Software Center and find this: ATI binary X.Org driver ?	11:36
Titanoboa	& install	11:36
fratz	astraljava: at least i now know what the drive contents	11:36
html	ikonia, you kiCKED him when i was helping him out ?!!? wow.....	11:36
theadmin	html: He was being incredibly rude.	11:37
wols	html: if you haven't noticed: this guy was trolling. he didn't need help	11:37
html	then hes a totlal nebie! and theres a few websites you can send him to , and no i didnt know he was trolling,	11:38
lotuspsychje	wols: tnx mate grep snort worked out fine realtime	11:39
iceman__	hey there.. is there no control panel in ubuntu anymore?	11:39
html	wrtiii, so what are you trying to do?	11:39
Sidewinder1	!classic \| iceman__	11:40
ubottu	iceman__: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".	11:40
szal	html: if this guy really was someone famous as he claimed to be, then he exhibited a clear case of what we call in German 'Starallüren' ;)	11:40
iceman__	aha, thanks Sidewinder1 =)	11:40
chenthu	can some one tell me how to kill or stop wpa_supplicant process.... when i kill it restarts and when i stop , it says its not a service	11:41
synapse	Anyone know the best channel for linux audio support?	11:41
html	szal, what do you mean ? and famous? like who?	11:41
szal	html: [13:31:33] <Jim_Parsons> but im jim parsons from the big bang theory	11:41
oCean	let's move on, ok?	11:41
theadmin	oCean's right, forget it.	11:42
dnivra	synapse: if it's ubuntu related, it'd be here. any other distro, please ask in the specific distro's channel.	11:42
theadmin	rm -rf /earth/people/irc/channel-ubuntu/Jim_Parsons #okay?	11:42
Sidewinder1	iceman__, Glas to've "hepped".	11:42
chenthu	wols: how to stop wpa_suppliacant... it restsrts when i kill it or i never kills	11:42
smokeycastle	So ubuntu changed out of unity, how do i get it to go back in	11:42
synapse	it's more of a kernel/usb/m-audio question, I am using ubuntu btw	11:42
html	szal, well "FYI" if you watch him he talks about linux on the show often, just youtubue it	11:43
dnivra	!ask \| synapse	11:43
ubottu	synapse: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	11:43
oCean	html: drop that discussion now please	11:43
szal	synapse: perhaps you should ask your question, so we can see whether it fits here or not	11:43
wols	chenthu: why do you want to stop it?	11:44
theadmin	chenthu: I think "ifconfig wlan0 down" might as well help	11:44
wrtiii	html: my intention is to install a linux based server distro that will act as a voice and web server for my own personal means.	11:44
smokeycastle	I am trying to use vi on a laptop (asus) but the insert keys are all called as secondary by pressing function key + buttons.	11:44
html	im me=aking to simple point of getting linux out there , and how wonderful if someone famous helps us along	11:45
wrtiii	html: I have had a windows based server running for the past year doing exactly this but deciding that for a change of flavourand some new experience I would switch to linux and have had nothing but trouble with it.	11:45
chenthu	wols: i am using aircrack-ng an this process needs to be stopped for it to work.....	11:45
synapse	Ok, I asked in #kernel about this m-audio usbcore/bandwidth exceeded problem, they says they are working on it, does anyone know the best channel to get the help I need?	11:45
Benkinooby	what is the best place to ask about licensing? i wan't to know more about canonicals contributor agreement	11:45
chenthu	theadmin: no i just ent the particular thin stoped not close lan	11:46
chenthu	wlan*	11:46
wols	Dear $deity: please redeem us from script kiddies. or "pentesters" as they like to call themselves	11:46
chenthu	wols: ?...$deity? and no i am not prntesing or scripting i m learning and that too on my on wifi netwrok	11:47
html	wrtiii, and thats one reason y linux is so hard to get a "virus" and /or a bug to get your info/money ..ect..	11:47
theadmin	chenthu: Hm, well, let me see	11:48
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wols	html: no it's not	11:48
wols	chenthu: how have you set up your network configuration?	11:48
theadmin	chenthu: Try this: sudo kill -s SIGQUIT $(cat /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid)	11:48
wrtiii	html: I installed @ first a debian distro on recommendation and upon reboot after installation I was greeted with a black screen and a blinking cursor. After troubleshooting that with different usbs sticks, redownloaded isos and ubuntu distro attempts I chalked it up as being an incompatible pc (Dell GX280) I received a new pc (Dell GX620) and experience the same problems. So I decided it must	11:48
wrtiii	be the P4 era dells. I then got a Levono PC from the same era and yet again encounter the same problem.	11:48
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oCean	wrtiii: how is that an #ubuntu issue?	11:49
html	wrtii, well a nob can make a "ms" virus" but linux yoou need a bit of skill ,	11:50
smokeycastle	how do I make it so ubuntu loads into unity again?	11:50
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wrtiii	oCean: because it appears to be a problem with the ubuntu installer?	11:50
theadmin	html: A bit? Now, please, Linux is too secure.	11:50
theadmin	smokeycastle: On the login screen, choose "Ubuntu" in the session menu	11:50
oCean	wrtiii: in ##linux you're saying not wanting to use ubuntu because of it's sudo	11:50
synapse	if you are concerned about virii, use clamd or symantic's version	11:51
anadon	how do I use an installer with the ".so" extension?	11:51
theadmin	anadon: That's not an installer at all, that's a library	11:51
smokeycastle	ok so I have done that however unity still not there?	11:51
synapse	anadon: don't think you can :)	11:51
wrtiii	html: I managed to complete an install of 11.04 server on this newer pc and had my server up and running but upon speaking with some people determined that I would use the 10.04 LTS version instead.	11:51
smokeycastle	and no message saying it was disabled or anything	11:51
html	wrtiii, form here on out i willl bee talkin just to you	11:51
synapse	anadon: what library/object are you having problems with	11:52
anadon	theadmin: then where do I put it? Its the flash beta and there's more in that folder than just a ".so"	11:52
html	wrtiii, so if i dont put ur name , just know it s you	11:52
theadmin	anadon: Well, your browser's plugins folder.	11:52
synapse	anadon: I think you need to link that to .flashplugins if you are talking about the flash addon	11:53
anadon	is it /usr/firefox?	11:53
anadon	damn...is there a guide to this?	11:53
chenthu	wols: u mean my wifi or the netwrok i am currntly using?	11:53
chenthu	theadmin: ok will try that	11:53
ZwIrc	Hi	11:53
wols	chenthu: wifi	11:53
wrtiii	html: 10.04 LTS ran me straight back into the same black screen upon rebooting after installation. I noticed while troubleshooting tonight @ the partitioning stage of the installation that the USB Stick was HDA followed by my two harddrives HDB and C. So on my most recent installation when it asked me if I wished to install the bootloader to the MBR I removed the usb stick before selecting	11:53
wrtiii	yes. I then received a fatal error saying that HDA was not found.	11:53
ZwIrc	need some help! Lost some important files.	11:53
wols	chenthu: e.g. nm, wicd, etc	11:54
chenthu	wols: streaming from my mobile (android)	11:54
theadmin	ZwIrc: Do you want a file recovery program? If so, look testdisk up	11:54
szal	anadon: is it the 64bit 11.0 beta?	11:54
wrtiii	html: this actually showed up earlier this week because after every installation I would have to recreate my usb stick because booting from it a 2nd time booted directly to the grub boot loader.	11:54
synapse	andon: is this hava or flash?	11:54
synapse	hava/java	11:54
anadon	szal: yup	11:54
ZwIrc	I got help to create a RAMDISK. I have stored many server files there, but what i did not know was after i did a recovery on the computer, all files in RAMDISK disapeared	11:54
html	wrtiii, did you check the bois? update it?	11:54
szal	anadon: there's a PPA for that	11:54
anadon	synapse: its adobe flash	11:54
wols	ZwIrc: a ramdisk is in memory. everytime you reboot whatever is in there is gone	11:55
wrtiii	html: So I am well aware now that the linux installation has been installing linux to the selected disk but does not follow that same selection when installing the bootloader and defaults to HDA MBR.	11:55
szal	anadon: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash	11:55
chenthu	wols: i am not using my wifi right now...but if i was using it would be using nm	11:55
ZwIrc	wols: but id did never disapear before when i rebooted	11:55
wols	chenthu: if wpasupp runs, you are using it	11:55
ZwIrc	was only this time when using a recovery	11:55
synapse	anadon: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash	11:55
ZwIrc	but is there any chance to get the files back? :s	11:56
wols	ZwIrc: stuff in ramdisks disappear always. if they don't it's not ramdisk	11:56
punter	How do I make xterm to display vivid colors instead of bold? I tried the +bdc switch with no luck so far...	11:56
chenthu	wols: no i am actually using my 3g Data Key	11:56
synapse	anadon: copy libflashplayer.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and flashplayer.xpt to your Mozilla components directory.	11:56
ZwIrc	how to recover them?	11:56
wrtiii	html: What I am unsure of now is my best course of action. -- Yes the bios is now up to date. -- Should I boot from the usb stick into the installation and then somehow ( I am not knowledgable enough to know how ) install a new copy of the bootloader to the mbr on the correct drive. Or is there something I am doing incorrectly prior to installation that is causing the USB Stick to show up	11:56
wrtiii	as HDA during installation?	11:56
html	wrtiii, check out yumi, xboot, , or a multi -boot theme, then try it out on a vurtual box	11:56
anadon	synapse: I have no idea where those are....the linux fs makes no sense to me.	11:57
synapse	anadon: sudo updatedb and then run "locate firefox \| grep plugins"	11:57
chenthu	theadmin: it ried it says.... "cat/var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid: No such file or directory"	11:58
wrtiii	html: are those alternative boot loaders?	11:58
theadmin	wrtiii: LILO, Syslinux	11:58
html	there is like 6-12 things to check for , and you need some time for it all	11:58
cousin_mario	hello	11:58
ZwIrc	is it posible to recover files from a ramdisk?	11:58
* cousin_mario can't make xorg-edgers or x-swat nvidia drivers work on natty		11:58
wols	!ppa \| cousin_mario	11:59
ubottu	cousin_mario: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa	11:59
poincare101	Hello everyone, I have a .ts file (which is of file type MPEG2 TS), I am trying to convert it to some format I can play (VLC refuses to play it), how can I convert it?	11:59
synapse	cousin_mario: I am upgrading to 11.04 right now and I hope I dont have that problem	11:59
cousin_mario	wols: ok about my own risk, but is there anyone else using it?	11:59
html	wrtiii, http://tinyurl.com/3llz5rm i have have the best luck with this usb drive,	11:59
wrtiii	Is it possible once loaded into ubuntu to install a bootloader to the mbr of a specified disk?	11:59
cousin_mario	synapse: you'll need them if you use kde	11:59
wols	cousin_mario: see the part about "unsupported"? it means: not supported here. we don't care if it breaks for you	12:00
KleinM	Hi, I downloaded my graphics card drivers from the nvidia website, because it didn't show at System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. So I installed it but now when I boot into Ubuntu, I get an error that says that Ubuntu is now in low-graphic mode and I still can't activate the extra effects at Appearance. Anyone knows how to fix this?	12:00
cousin_mario	wols: any other place you would recommend to ask about that?	12:00
lei_	heilei	12:00
html	wrtiii, can you pm , the details	12:00
wols	cousin_mario: whoever made the ppa	12:00
poincare101	Hello everyone, I have a .ts file (which is of file type MPEG2 TS), I am trying to convert it to some format I can play (VLC refuses to play it), how can I convert it?	12:00
synapse	cousin_mario: well, I went from edgey to 10.0.4 to 10.10 fine	12:00
wols	KleinM: what videocard exactly?	12:00
ZwIrc	is it posible to recover files from a ramdisk wols?	12:01
wols	!repeat \| poincare101	12:01
ubottu	poincare101: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	12:01
theadmin	ZwIrc: Nope.	12:01
cousin_mario	synapse: X won't even start with nvidia 280	12:01
KleinM	GeForce GT 540m	12:01
Drona	folks can someone tell me how to make the evolution recognise your wvdial setting as default internet settings?	12:01
synapse	cousin_mario: oh, I use a gt9800, no idea	12:01
wols	synapse: note how cousin_mario mario is totally wrong. X starting or not has nothing to do with kde	12:02
synapse	wols: I didn't want to say it	12:02
poincare101	wols: I need help pretty quickly. do you have any pointers?	12:03
html	wrtiii, yes	12:03
wols	poincare101: and I need a pony. if you need help totally quickly, get a consultant	12:03
bullgard4_	What keyboard layout alternatives to "nodeadkeys" does the Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64 offer?	12:04
wols	poincare101: what is the "file" output?	12:04
html	theadmin, oh , and yes i know that linux with no gui and proper setup is very tough to hack/break,	12:05
wols	html: you talk a lot of uninformed garbage :)	12:05
poincare101	wols: pastebin?	12:05
wols	poincare101: it's a single line that output normally, you wouldn't need a pastebin. do you know the command "file"?	12:06
KleinM	wols: I have a GeForce GT 540m, and some Integrated Intel thing. But how do I let Ubuntu use only my nvidia card and not the intel?	12:07
anadon	synapse: ok, I cp'd the .so to all the firefox plugin directories in /usr/lib. What now?	12:08
junior_	hello all	12:08
wols	KleinM: have you set your BIOS to "discrete" or such?	12:08
Sidewinder1	poincare101, A .TS file is generally the format used on "store-bought" DVDs, as in "Video.TS" Not sure about VLC, but Totem will certainly play it provided all of the other files are there.	12:08
wols	KleinM: so it actually uses it by default?	12:08
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wols	Sidewinder1: totem uses ffmpeg too, right?	12:09
Sidewinder1	wols, As far as I know.	12:09
KleinM	wols: No, I didn't see something like that in my BIOS?	12:10
wols	Titanoboa: no, fglrx (ATI binary X.Org driver) will not work for you	12:11
KleinM	wols: I think it uses the Intel by defualt, otherwise it would have been picked up and wouldn't have said "No Proprietary drivers found"	12:15
wols	KleinM: I asked you something	12:15
wols	ah, missed the answer, sorry	12:15
Titanoboa		12:15
Titanoboa	Okay so	12:16
wols	ikonia: see that problem KleinM has. another one with a fscked up Optimus. Yay crap laptops!	12:16
Machtin	i get no sound while using s/pdif in the browser.. vlc works :/ any hints?	12:16
Titanoboa	next project is to get ventrilo for ubuntu! i've never compiled anything before :) am i foolish to assume there's some easily comprehended tutorial around?	12:16
krazykrivda	can anyone help me with mounting my vfat partition so I can edit the files?	12:17
ikonia	wols: I wasn't following, but I'll have a quick scroll back	12:17
wols	Machtin: start the browser via xterm and check if it outputs any error messages there. try to use /dev/dsp with any sound program and see if it outputs any noise on the speakers	12:17
clakes	love is suicide	12:17
clakes	(sorry, just had to share)	12:17
wols	ikonia: always the same. intel/nvidia setup. trying to load nvidia drivers, and X refuses to load them. at most, intel drivers can be loaded	12:17
Sidewinder1	Titanoboa, Perhaps have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware?highlight=%28%28CompilingEasyHowTo%29%29	12:17
ikonia	clakes: please don't	12:17
html	how do i turn a img to a iso >>>> aka distro meego for netbooks	12:18
Titanoboa	thx Sidewinder1, i'll get back here if i need more help which will surely happen.	12:18
ikonia	wols: yes, I'm seeing more what you mean	12:18
wols	Titanoboa: did the ATI binary X.org driver work for you?	12:18
Sidewinder1	NP	12:18
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szal	Machtin: play sound in browser, use pavucontrol to put stream on correct output	12:18
Titanoboa	wols i gave up D: tournament is starting too soon, i just need to get vent and eat now	12:19
dr_willis	html, in that case the img is a 'hard drive' image thats normally dd'd to a usb flash drive. Converting it to a iso may be tricky.	12:19
wols	Titanoboa: your videocard should be supported by the "ati" driver out of the box in ubuntu	12:19
Titanoboa	i got an error in the end of installing it and now i can't even remove it to try again so, gave up :)	12:19
dr_willis	html, how big is the img file?	12:19
Titanoboa	out of the box?	12:19
KleinM	wols, ikonia: Have you dealt with a similar problem before?	12:19
wols	Titanoboa: yes, without any configuratin	12:20
wols	KleinM: yes	12:20
KleinM	wols: Solved it?	12:20
wols	KleinM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics	12:20
wols	KleinM: most times yes	12:20
rileyp	irsend I cant get it to work in natty it work in lucid for me fine I have a mceusb transceiver	12:20
ZwIrc	I cant use testdisk to restore files from RAMDISK?	12:21
Machtin	szal: thanks :)	12:21
html	dr_willis, hey long time no see ,, i think its 700mb-750mb	12:22
bullgard4_	What keyboard layout alternatives to "nodeadkeys" does the Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64 offer?	12:23
dr_willis	html, you can try just burning it to a cd/dvd. but most likely that wont work.	12:23
ikonia	most burning support will support .img extensions	12:23
szal	ZwIrc: you gotta be kidding.. RAM is a non-permanent or volatile storage, if you delete something from it, it's gone	12:24
wols	html: maybe you should check what kind of data your .img is? just cause it has some sort of file extension doesn't mean a thing	12:24
Sidewinder1	szal, He's been told that, several times, now. :-(	12:24
szal	ZwIrc: same if you turn off the power supply	12:24
dr_willis	szal, years ago my AMIGA had a 'Rad:' drive. a Non voliatile ram drive that could survive a reboot. :) sort of a neat trick.. but thats OT.. but still a COOL feature i wonder why its not doable in mondern OS's	12:25
szal	dr_willis: iirc, the RAD did survive a reboot, but not switching off the machine	12:26
ZwIrc	szal :( Just think it is strange, because the files have ben there in 3 months	12:26
ZwIrc	with rebots	12:26
ZwIrc	now they are gone	12:26
dr_willis	szal, yep. I said that. :) you could even defrag it..	12:26
ZwIrc	how do i see that it is realy a ramdisk?	12:27
html	well im not sure how to dual boot it , (meego) and i have been away from there distro for a long time , but then i got it easy to a cd , but i dont know how to with the updated one	12:27
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ikonia	html: most distros dual boot the same as each other, it's all controlled through grub	12:27
szal	ZwIrc: 'sudo fdisk -l' please	12:27
html	*back then	12:27
szal	!paste \| ZwIrc	12:27
ubottu	ZwIrc: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	12:27
dr_willis	html, that disrto may be dead and not worth messing with also. the whole using 'img' files was somthing used like 2 yrs ago.	12:27
dr_willis	html, test it in virtualbox. rename it to whatevber.iso see if vbox can boot it via the cd.	12:28
dr_willis	html, or just fire up k3b and have it burn it to a DVD	12:28
wols	dr_willis: cause a reboot changes to real mode. and a kernel upon entering protected mode pretty much clears/discards the memory	12:28
wols	dr_willis: one can loop mount ISO files	12:29
html	k3b ? will it convert it? to iso?	12:29
szal	dr_willis: y u not in -offtopic?	12:29
efix	Guys, the epiphany browser is compatible with HTML5 ?	12:29
wols	html: have you used "file" on your img file yet?	12:29
synapse	I just updated to 11.04 and all of my keyboard shortcuts for virtual workspaces are displaying crazy rendering problems with my nvidia 9800gt.. any help?	12:29
ikonia	html: why do you want it in iso format	12:29
dr_willis	html, it can burn it/convert it on the fly. but the whole 'img' format is a bit of a vague standard.	12:29
wols	dr_willis: what standard?	12:29
dr_willis	html, it may be a simple hard disk image dump	12:29
dr_willis	the pick your own standard and name it what you want standard.	12:30
dr_willis	lets name it .bin :)	12:30
dr_willis	html, test it in vbox. would be the quick and easy way to see if it can just boot it as an cd/dvd.	12:30
ikonia	no need for vbox,	12:30
ikonia	just run file against it	12:30
html	iso's are easy for me , anything esle and im lost	12:30
szal	dr_willis: neither .img nor .bin are standards; they are generic extensions for raw images of data including the underlying filesystem	12:30
wols	ikonia: I asked for it for half an hour now. I guess he has me on /ignore	12:31
dr_willis	szal, thats my point. :)	12:31
ikonia	html: burning .img file that is a cd image is exactly the same as burning a cd image that's in an iso format	12:31
ZwIrc	szal: http://pastebin.com/T2G4yvzc	12:32
ZwIrc	or http://paste.ubuntu.com/660455/ if u want ^^	12:32
szal	ZwIrc: nothing in there that looks like a non-HDD storage device	12:33
KleinM	wols: Thanks for that link, im going to try that now	12:33
ZwIrc	then it sould be able to retrive	12:33
raven	how to specify bass management in pulseaudio/alsa?	12:33
ZwIrc	szal: it was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/	12:34
szal	raven: define 'bass management'	12:34
synapse	Anyone having this problem on 11.04 nvidia 9800gt with virtual workspaces? http://i.imgur.com/g60RV.png	12:34
florin91	Hi folks! I have a problem: I can't generate pgp key on ubuntu. It says "Couldn't generate pgp key. General error". Any thoughts?	12:34
wols	florin91: you are using gpg?	12:35
raven	szal, specify to take the bass from lfe chan in 5.1 and not from l+r	12:35
phatjoe	hey guys, anyone can tell me how can I mount an ISO file (extracted from an Audio CD) ? it doesn't work with mount -o loop	12:36
szal	synapse: what gfx driver?	12:37
clakes	ikonia ...sorry for that, life advice... another one: love linux and love ubuntu	12:37
szal	phatjoe: audio CDs aren't mounted, they're just played	12:37
wols	phatjoe: file <your extracted iso file>	12:37
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klaniara	Hi	12:38
dr_willis	phatjoe, by 'extracted' you mean a 'image file' made from a cd?	12:38
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ZwIrc	szal: it was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/	12:39
ZwIrc	is there any chance you think?	12:39
phatjoe	actually the original image was extracted with Nero into an NRG image then converted with nrg2iso	12:39
yay	Greek please	12:39
wols	!gr	12:39
ubottu	#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes	12:39
szal	!gr \| yay	12:39
yay	;p	12:39
ubottu	yay: please see above	12:39
florin91	GnuPG, I think	12:39
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phatjoe	output from "file cd.iso" is cd.iso: DOS-executable (	12:39
yay	Ty	12:39
wols	phatjoe: doesn't sound like a ISO9660 image to me...	12:40
phatjoe	wols: then I should assume nrg2iso didn't get the job done..	12:41
dr_willis	phatjoe, you could try a 'vlc whateverthethingis.iso' and see if it plays it..	12:41
florin91	Then what I need to generate pgp key pairs ?	12:42
yay	Ppl with blue eyes and big smile are lucky	12:42
dr_willis	Im not sure how it would become a 'dos executable' Unless somehow file is confused.	12:42
krazykrivda	i am unable to edit files and a mounted vfat partition.. how can I fix this?\	12:42
clakes	what's with saying "sorry, i regret being outta topic?" ...'k, i guess i should regret saying "i'm sorry for i'm sorry being outta topic for a line" =)	12:42
synapse	szal: how do I tell the graphics driver I am using	12:42
phatjoe	dr_willis: I did try it with VLC also.. couldn't play a thing.. anyways.. thx for the help guys ;)	12:42
dr_willis	krazykrivda, you could try installing and running ntfs-config, it can tweak the options ntfs and vfat are mounted with. But its a bit of a flakey app. OR you can mount it by hand with better options.	12:42
synapse	szal: I know what lspci tells me	12:42
ikonia	clakes: can you please keep the silly comments, speached, or words of wisdom out of the channel, the topic is Ubuntu support discussion, please try to keep to that	12:43
wols	synapse: Xorg.0.log	12:43
yay	Wish i had Strawberries	12:43
* wols points ikonia to yay		12:43
raven	i have bass parts from l + r and from lfe chan mixing on my subwoofer and that causes frequency elemination. any solution?	12:43
ikonia	yay: did you read what I said to clakes ?	12:43
ZwIrc	szal, did u see the link?	12:43
clakes	i just said "sorry for being out of topic"... an "it's ok" instead of a kick would do just great	12:44
ikonia	clakes: please join the channel #ubuntu-offtopic	12:44
yay	Not really im a girl I do not smart	12:44
yay	Im not	12:44
clakes	i will if you accept my excuse fot being off-topic	12:44
ikonia	yay: please keep the topic to ubuntu support discussion	12:44
yay	Ok	12:44
yay	Sorry	12:44
ikonia	yay: no problem	12:44
krazykrivda	i am unable to edit files mounted on a vfat partition.. what should i do?	12:45
szal	synapse: 'lspci -k', 'dpkg l \| grep -i nvidia'	12:45
szal	damn	12:45
szal	synapse: 'lspci -k', 'dpkg -l \| grep -i nvidia'	12:45
yay	Ubuntu is complicated for not good users which I think we might be the most	12:45
Sidewinder1	!ntfs \| krazykrivda	12:45
ubottu	krazykrivda: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE	12:45
clakes	that was off-topic szal...	12:45
wols	krazykrivda: "mount"	12:45
szal	clakes: what was?	12:46
ikonia	szal: ignore him	12:46
krazykrivda	wols: Sidewinder1 : /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000)	12:46
Ansuman	how to know whether apache is installed on ubuntu 11.04?	12:46
ikonia	Ansuman: it's not by default, open the package manager, search for apache2 - see if it's marked as installed	12:46
retry369	ubuntu 11.10 panoroma?	12:46
wols	krazykrivda: unask 002	12:47
szal	retry369: whole sentences?	12:47
oCean	retry369: 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 channel	12:47
ikonia	retry369: ubuntu 11.10 discussion is in the channel #ubuntu+1	12:47
Ansuman	ikonia: OK. I will check thanks.	12:47
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yay	Wols come prv to talk about ubuntu	12:49
dr_willis	krazykrivda, you sure that got pasted right? and gid is not gid=1000 also?	12:49
krazykrivda	i'm sure i pasted correctly	12:49
wols	!pm \| yay	12:50
ubottu	yay: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	12:50
krazykrivda	idk how to paste INCORRECTLY dr_willis lol	12:50
florin91	wols From terminal: gpg: can't open `/home/user/.gnupg/random_seed': Permission denied	12:50
wols	krazykrivda: ls -l <your FAT mountpoint>	12:50
yay	Ok do most men or women use ubuntu?	12:50
wols	florin91: that's pretty clea, no?	12:50
wols	!ot \| yay	12:50
ubottu	yay: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	12:50
oCean	yay: this is technical support, for discussion /join #ubuntu-offtopic	12:50
florin91	@wols chmod +x ./random	12:50
dr_willis	Im pretty sure that the gid should be 1000, the inital user i thought was UID and GID of 1000	12:51
synapse	szal: Kernel driver in use: nvidia, Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb \| nvidia-173-modaliases:173.14.28-0ubuntu1, nvidia-96-modaliases:96.43.19-0ubuntu1, nvidia-common:0.2.30, nvidia-current:270.41.06-0ubuntu1, nvidia-glx-185:270.41.06-0ubuntu1, nvidia-settings:270.29-0ubuntu1	12:51
krazykrivda	wols: I am know unable to umount to try and remount properly	12:51
dr_willis	krazykrivda, you are trying to access it as your first made user? or as a differnt user?	12:51
wols	dr_willis: it normally is	12:51
yay	The worst think I have been tough passed with d and it was hard it was that java	12:51
wols	krazykrivda: as your normal user, run "id"	12:51
yay	I remember nithing	12:51
oCean	yay: stop it	12:51
yay	Nothing	12:51
yay	Ok	12:51
krazykrivda	dr_willis: first and only user.. and it had been working how I set it up in fstab for months then 1 day it woudltn' let me edit	12:51
ZwIrc	Wols, the files was stored on tmpfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660458/	12:52
ZwIrc	no way to retrive them?	12:52
krazykrivda	wols: uid=1000(charlie) gid=1000(charlie) groups=1000(charlie),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare)	12:52
wols	krazykrivda: so you can see, you are UID 1000	12:52
Ansuman	where to find package manager on ubuntu 11.04?	12:52
wols	krazykrivda: ls -l <mountpoint of vfat>	12:52
szal	synapse: uninstall everything that is not nvidia-current; if that doesn't cut it, try upgrading to nvidia-current 280 from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates	12:52
synapse	darn	12:53
wols	krazykrivda: ls -ld <mountpoint of vfat> rather	12:53
krazykrivda	wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660466/	12:53
synapse	is it possible to backlevel from 11.04 to 10.10 using update-manager?	12:53
krazykrivda	wols: drwxrwxr-x 42 charlie users 32768 1969-12-31 19:00 /mnt/FILES (ls -ld)	12:54
Sidewinder1	synapse, No, just do a fresh install.	12:54
synapse	can't risk it	12:54
wols	krazykrivda: and when you "gedit /mnt/FILES/mynewfile it does say "permission denied"?	12:54
krazykrivda	yes	12:54
krazykrivda	i did remount w/ umask 002	12:54
krazykrivda	wols: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)	12:54
synapse	I am gonna try some stuff	12:54
STiK	nub :P	12:55
synapse	thanks	12:55
wols	krazykrivda: mount \|grep mnt/FILES does it say rw or ro?	12:55
krazykrivda	wols says rw: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)	12:55
Janine	Anyone here that is really good with configuring a mouse?	12:55
mohsin_	hi there	12:55
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mohsin^	/msg NickServ identify maze1226	12:56
wols	mohsin^: set a new password for your nick now	12:56
szal	mohsin^: yeah right.. you better change that pwd..	12:56
krazykrivda	wols: I was able to "sudo touch /mnt/FILES/test.txt"	12:57
krazykrivda	wols: but sudo gedit the same file and it opens read only and I cannot type at all	12:57
chenthu	wols: does nano work for krazykrivda ?	12:58
rileyp	does irsend work in natty	12:58
wols	chenthu: ask him. but probably not	12:58
chenthu	krazykrivda: u wanna edit /mnt/FILES/test.txt?	12:59
Janine	anyone here that are good at configuring a mouse?	12:59
wols	!anyone \| Janine	12:59
ubottu	Janine: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.	12:59
krazykrivda	chenthu: I really want to be able to use this partition as I would use anything	12:59
ZwIrc	No one here aviable to help me?	12:59
ZwIrc	-.-	12:59
ZwIrc	i pay well -.-	12:59
compdoc	ha	12:59
krazykrivda	chenthu: this FILES.. is where I store all my movies/music/documents etc.. that all should be operating system free	13:00
florin91	I don't get it. Ran again pgp --gen-key and still can't open that file ... that what it says gpg: no writable secret keyring found: eof	13:00
florin91	Key generation failed: eof	13:00
florin91	gpg: note: random_seed file not updated	13:00
compdoc	ZwIrc, last time you stiffed me the $50	13:00
chenthu	krazykrivda: please explain the problem...i just came in	13:00
Sidewinder1	krazykrivda, First, the correct command would be "gksudo gedit'; Second did you try what ubottu said regarding NTFS?	13:00
IAmNotThatGuy	ZwIrc, LOL	13:00
Janine	I cannot get my mousewheel to work, everything else works but not the vertical scrolling. It is a Logitech VX Nano Wireless. Can anyone help me?	13:00
Sidewinder1	!ntfs \| krazykrivda	13:00
ubottu	krazykrivda: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE	13:00
chenthu	krazykrivda: u wanna gedit a file?	13:01
ZwIrc	compdoc stiffed? :P	13:01
krazykrivda	chenthu: i want to move files there.	13:01
wols	Sidewinder1: are you even reading what krazykrivda pasted and asked all this time?	13:02
krazykrivda	chenthu: i'm just using gedit as a point of refeerence that even that is not possible w/ sudo	13:02
compdoc	ZwIrc, old term - means non payment of funds	13:02
szal	ZwIrc: no effing way. accept it	13:03
synapse	whats the apt-get(?) command to check if you have a package installed?	13:03
wols	synapse: dpkg -l <package>	13:03
ZwIrc	hum?	13:03
florin91	And what about me? Can somebody help me?	13:03
synapse	thx	13:03
krazykrivda	wols: I know nothing about NTFS-3g is that not applicable for my situation? again this had been working a week or so ago.. then suddenly stopped	13:03
chenthu	krazykrivda: ok if u want to edit then dont use the file name just use sudo gedit and when gedit opens u browse to that file and u will be able to edit.... and to move the files....could u please elaborate... i am sorry if i am making u do tis again...but i have to understand ur problem to help u....	13:03
szal	ZwIrc: for the last time, you CANNOT recover files deleted from a ramdisk	13:04
wols	florin91: ls -l ~/.gnupg	13:04
wols	krazykrivda: it's not. Sidewinder1 doesn't know what he's talking about	13:04
ZwIrc	but it is a ramdisk then :p	13:04
wols	ZwIrc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs	13:05
florin91	@wols where to post the output ?	13:05
wols	!paste \| florin91	13:05
ubottu	florin91: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	13:05
krazykrivda	chenthu: i have a partition on my harddrive that I use to store basically all of my files/docs.. i use in windows.. and I mount it in ubuntu.. all of a sudden the files partitions mounts.. but i am unable to edit/or mv files there.. but I can browse it as usual	13:05
synapse	wols: is it possible to remove drivers with apt?	13:05
ZwIrc	ah :/	13:05
ZwIrc	so its like the same	13:05
Janine	I cannot get my mousewheel to work, everything else works but not the vertical scrolling. It is a Logitech VX Nano Wireless. Can anyone help me?	13:06
florin91	http://pastebin.com/rTC2iWVA	13:06
wols	synapse: drivers from where? if they are installed as .deb packages yes you can. apt-get remove <package> for example	13:06
chenthu	krazykrivda: if u cant move did u try to copy?	13:06
krazykrivda	yes	13:06
compdoc	Janine, you sure the mouse works?	13:06
synapse	wols: they were installed with the nvidia thing	13:06
krazykrivda	chenthu: I use to be able to open up nautilus.. copy paste files there.. do antyhing as if it were jsut another ordinary folder.. no longer is that the case	13:06
wols	florin91: secring.gpg is owned by root and that's why it fails	13:06
wols	synapse: I don't support nvidia.run installers. ask nvidia	13:07
Janine	the mouse works and everything on it except vertical scrolling works too	13:07
synapse	ok	13:07
Janine	compdoc, the mouse works and everything on it except vertical scrolling works too	13:07
synapse	I am in there	13:07
ZwIrc	is there a fast command to delete that partition then?	13:07
knoppix	does anyone have experience with split and cat and 150G files?	13:07
florin91	And random.seed as well ?	13:07
alessioalex	hmmm, even in production I get a 404 page with "No route matches "/lskjdfksjdjsdlf""	13:08
alessioalex	But I want the page 404.html	13:08
alessioalex	from public	13:08
wols	knoppix: we don't support knoppix	13:08
alessioalex	What do I have to do so that it displays that page, not that stupid "no route" message?	13:09
florin91	@wols And how can I own those files?	13:09
chenthu	krazykrivda: does it mount automatically or u mount it manually?	13:09
m0ijk	Good evening. I just installed ubuntu on a stationary computer. just got it so I know little about it (was my fathers). It's a core 2 duo with 4gb of ram and ati 4850 - thats all I know for now. However, the fans runs like crazy. so I'm trying to get them under control. installed lm-sensors and run the script. however, it just report the cpu fan. nothing from the other fans. what is the easiest way to get fan control running, and/or what to do	13:09
m0ijk	with the 0 RPM fans?	13:09
wols	!permissions \| florin91	13:09
ubottu	florin91: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	13:09
knoppix	it should be linux in general, thanks anyway	13:09
krazykrivda	chenthu: i can do either.. right now I have been using fstab to mount.. and have been for years.. i can manual mount if that woudl solve my probelm thopuhg..	13:09
wols	m0ijk: which fan "runs like crazy"?	13:09
krazykrivda	chenthu: running the 'mount' command i get this... /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)	13:10
html	dr_willis, thanks it worked	13:10
chenthu	krazykrivda: u could try manual mount by mounting to a dir created by u on desktop	13:10
m0ijk	wols: there is a huge one on the chassis, one on the cpu and one on the psu. so probably one of them	13:10
dr_willis	html, which did?	13:10
krazykrivda	chenthu: can u give specuific cmd for me to type into terminal and I will try	13:11
compdoc	Janine, according to google, ppl have that mouse working in ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04. which version you using?	13:11
krazykrivda	wols: are you out of ideas as well	13:11
Janine	compdoc, 11.04	13:11
wols	krazykrivda: pretty much. don't see a reason for the behaviour	13:11
html	booted, but didnt work	13:11
florin91	@wols Why not just to be sure use chmod 777 files ?	13:12
alberto	Hello, I need some help here... I just installed mySQL server on Ubuntu 11 and everytime I try to initiate it, the message that gives me is Fake initctl... Any ideas of what I should do?	13:12
compdoc	Janine, try this: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/configure_logitech_vx_nano	13:13
mohsin^	I am using lubuntu 11.04 .. on T61. i am trying to reduce mouse sensitivity but UI does not work	13:13
wols	m0ijk: if it's the trackpoint: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Sensitivity_.26_Speed	13:14
chenthu	krazykrivda: create a folder in desktop, then check whether you have your ur disk already mounted if so use "umount" to unmount... the remount it to the folder u creared...for eg i f i have created a folder on desktop name" hd" i use this "sudo u mount /dev/sda5" and then use "sudo mount /dev/sda5/ /home/user/hd	13:14
Janine	compdoc, thanks!	13:15
compdoc	Janine, looks like its a lot of work - good luck	13:15
wols	mohsin^: if it's the trackpoint: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Sensitivity_.26_Speed	13:15
chenthu	krazykrivda: but are u sure /dev/sda5 is the right drive?....did u check it using :fdisk -l"?	13:16
krazykrivda	yes	13:16
bernhard1	After installing Ubuntu 11.4 server i get errors when booting.	13:16
bernhard1	I have this issue on several disks (new and old one).	13:16
bernhard1	It gives errors on the filesystem /boot .	13:16
bernhard1	rdev/sda1	13:16
bernhard1	mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1	13:16
FloodBot1	bernhard1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:16
bernhard1	then: cannot write bytes: broke pipe (many times)	13:16
bernhard1	then it boots to prompt and i can login:	13:16
krazykrivda	chenthu: as i said.. it does mount the files and I can see them.. just can't edit	13:16
BluesKaj	Hey all	13:17
acidrain	i have uploaded 2047.9GB since my format in 2009 of ubuntu	13:17
chenthu	krazykrivda: ok but did u try what i said ...may be that could solve ur file...cause some times manually mounting solves... i think i got a problem with this once....may be...	13:17
krazykrivda	chenthu: I'm trying to.. btu now having issue with umount	13:17
chenthu	krazykrivda: can u paste the output?	13:18
synapse	solz: I blacklisted nouveau and nvidiafb and they are still showing up in lspci	13:18
wols	synapse: did you recreate your initramfs too?	13:19
wols	synapse: and modprobe -r them?	13:19
synapse	I have no idea how to do that	13:19
krazykrivda	chenthu: umount: /mnt/FILES: device is busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))	13:19
wols	krazykrivda: lsof \|grep mnt/FILES	13:20
chenthu	krazykrivda: ^^	13:20
synapse	krazykrivda: perhaps you have a terminal open or are in the directory?	13:20
chenthu	krazykrivda: but i never know as much as wols	13:20
chenthu	wols: wat does this "lsof \|grep mnt/FILES" do?	13:21
krazykrivda	chenthu: wols.. i have EVEYRTHING closed	13:21
synapse	wols: I removed them with modprobe, I don't know how to recreate the initramfs	13:22
krazykrivda	wols: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /root/.gvfs Output information may be incomplete.	13:22
bernhard1	Any idears ? After installing Ubuntu 11.4 server i get errors when booting. I have this issue on several disks (new and old one). It gives errors on the filesystem /boot . rdev/sda1 mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 then: cannot write bytes: broke pipe (many times)then it boots to prompt and i can login: So i repair the hd with Knoppix cd. It says the /boot was unmounted not	13:22
bernhard1	not cleanly. then it repairs. When i repair sda1 with the knoppix cd with the command fsck /dev/sda1 it is fixed. So the server boots fine. But once the server is shutdown once it will startup again with these same message: mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 cannot write bytes: broke pipe Any clue how i can fix this ????	13:22
krazykrivda	wols: Browse 15948 charlie cwd DIR 8,5 32768 1 /mnt/FILES script-wo 15949 charlie cwd DIR 8,5 32768 1 /mnt/FILES gksu 15959 charlie cwd DIR 8,5 32768 1 /mnt/FILES	13:22
synapse	wols: guess that is a length procedure :(	13:22
krazykrivda	sry should have pastebinned	13:22
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chenthu	krazykrivda: better restart and try or better retsrat and enter into a terminal before logging in and the make a dir in the desktop then and then try " those commands i gave u"	13:23
chenthu	krazykrivda: may be u are using terminal from that path .... try using cd / and then retry	13:24
wols	krazykrivda: the processes with PID 15948 and 15959 have files open on /mnt/FILES and prevent the unmounting	13:24
krazykrivda	going to reboot	13:24
chenthu	krazykrivda: no wait	13:25
chenthu	krazykrivda: did u listen to wols?.....	13:25
chenthu	krazykrivda: u could kill those process wols said and try again?	13:25
wols	synapse: how do you know these modules are loaded right now?	13:26
Guest74900	Hey guys, these days i was thinking about some interesting web startup. Do you have any ideas?	13:28
synapse	wols: lspci -k \| grep nvidia	13:29
compdoc	Guest74900, one that makes a lot of money	13:30
Guest74900	I think it shound be about money but joy	13:30
Guest74900	shouldnt	13:31
sudokill	Guest74900, its up to you	13:31
wols	synapse: check lsmod instead	13:31
Guest74900	So, would you prefer money than self-satisfaction?	13:31
wols	Guest74900: do you have a ubuntu related support problem?	13:31
=== carlfk is now known as CarlFK
Guest74900	ok, i wont talk	13:32
chenthu	anyone been using aircrack-ng with a broadcm b43 ?	13:32
compdoc	www.TheJoyOfMirc.com	13:32
chenthu	on ubuntu	13:32
wols	!anyone \| chenthu	13:33
ubottu	chenthu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.	13:33
chenthu	wols: ok	13:33
IAmNotThatGuy	wols, ;)	13:33
theadmin	compdoc: Do not spam.	13:33
compdoc	its not spam - its a name for Guest74900's new website	13:34
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wols	compdoc: keep it on topic in here please	13:35
chenthu	compdoc: off topic is considered as spam	13:35
StevenR	chenthu: you can't really. IIRC, the hardware won't do the modes aircrack-ng wants (from memory)	13:35
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chenthu	StevenR: IIRC?	13:35
StevenR	chenthu: I ended up buying a cheapo usb dongle for my wireless debug work	13:35
StevenR	chenthu: If I Remember/Recall Correctly	13:36
user__	i want to talk to administrator of this irc in private !	13:36
theadmin	user__: You don't do that.	13:37
chenthu	StevenR: but in the aircrack website they said broadcom b43 is completely supported in linux than on windows	13:37
theadmin	user__: You can join #ubuntu-ops	13:37
user__	k	13:37
chenthu	StevenR: pm?	13:37
StevenR	chenthu: no thanks. I could be wrong. It might be certain chips using that driver	13:37
bullgard4_	Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?	13:38
chenthu	StevenR: ok ...thank you	13:38
StevenR	chenthu: so while the driver supports it, your hardware might not (I was using a Dell Vostro 1220, if that helps)	13:38
chenthu	StevenR: but i checked for the hardware compatibility and it sai it supports	13:39
chenthu	StevenR: said*	13:39
Doonz	hey guys. I have a Hardware Raid Array that was 9tb. I expanded it to 12tb. How do I go about formatting the last 3TB into its own partition. This has to be done through the cli	13:41
StevenR	Doonz: are you usin LVM?	13:41
synapse	wols: generated a new xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, same problem :/	13:42
Doonz	no	13:42
user__	theadmin no one response there	13:42
hathanh	what?	13:42
StevenR	user__: well. Be patient.	13:42
Sidewinder1	user__, Sometimes it takes a few minutes to get a response.	13:42
StevenR	Doonz: and please don't cross post in future.	13:43
acidrain	!nowplaying	13:44
wols	synapse: what problem exactly?	13:44
synapse	wols: can you paste that nvidias/download link again, I lost it	13:44
wols	synapse: what download link? for what?	13:44
synapse	someone here posted a link for nvidia.com/downloads	13:44
wols	synapse: unsupported. and will break your ubuntu	13:45
wols	synapse: what videoard do you have?	13:45
synapse	01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (rev a2)	13:46
wols	synapse: that one is years old and no new driver will change anything for it	13:46
wols	synapse: use the ubuntu default driver(s) for it. either nouveau or nvidia	13:46
kjbeo	!!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! WATCH KLOERI TEACH FREENODERS HOW TO SUCK DICK FOR STAFF FAVORS / SEE HOW MRMIST GOT HIS OLINE , HINT IT REQUIRED LIVING UNDER LOREZ'S DESK FOR A SUMMER / SEE HIDDEN FOOTAGE FROM THE PDPC/CANONICAL GAY ORGY / SEE NIKO LOSE HIS VIRGINITY TO A 400LB BLACK MAN . CALL NOW! (405) 949-1961 IF LOREZ'S MOM DOESN'T CUSS YOU OUT IN SPANISH, SHIPPING IS FREE !!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! kjbeo Dcite MrNthDegree awallin natschil Evixion ben_ plo	13:47
kjbeo	!!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! WATCH KLOERI TEACH FREENODERS HOW TO SUCK DICK FOR STAFF FAVORS / SEE HOW MRMIST GOT HIS OLINE , HINT IT REQUIRED LIVING UNDER LOREZ'S DESK FOR A SUMMER / SEE HIDDEN FOOTAGE FROM THE PDPC/CANONICAL GAY ORGY / SEE NIKO LOSE HIS VIRGINITY TO A 400LB BLACK MAN . CALL NOW! (405) 949-1961 IF LOREZ'S MOM DOESN'T CUSS YOU OUT IN SPANISH, SHIPPING IS FREE !!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! Tharlinn m0ijk bernhard1 Gujs Guest8383 Guest2056640 dju	13:47
kjbeo	!!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! WATCH KLOERI TEACH FREENODERS HOW TO SUCK DICK FOR STAFF FAVORS / SEE HOW MRMIST GOT HIS OLINE , HINT IT REQUIRED LIVING UNDER LOREZ'S DESK FOR A SUMMER / SEE HIDDEN FOOTAGE FROM THE PDPC/CANONICAL GAY ORGY / SEE NIKO LOSE HIS VIRGINITY TO A 400LB BLACK MAN . CALL NOW! (405) 949-1961 IF LOREZ'S MOM DOESN'T CUSS YOU OUT IN SPANISH, SHIPPING IS FREE !!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!! linds6630 the_metalgamer despoil Fantomas kotrcka Coriola	13:47
ubottu	kjbeo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	13:47
ubottu	kjbeo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	13:47
ubottu	kjbeo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	13:47
synapse	can you see if you have that link to the downloads page though in your history?	13:47
Spacewalker	O_O	13:47
MrNthDegree	.....nice :\|	13:47
hackerqi	:)	13:47
Myrtti	and moving on	13:47
wols	synapse: I don't help people break their ubuntu. this channel exists to do the opposite...	13:47
Myrtti	don't feed the trolls	13:47
* MrNthDegree brb		13:47
theadmin	Woah, that was... sigh	13:48
* theadmin hates spammers		13:48
* wols hates people commenting needlessly on them when they should know better		13:49
wols	theadmin: if you didn't get it: you SPAM	13:49
=== whitesquall1 is now known as Whitesquall
* BluesKaj wonders what thepoint of these idiot spammer is..to prove that they are indeed idiots?		13:50
Myrtti	moving on	13:50
theadmin	wols: That's flood, not spam.	13:50
user__	is this is called spam ? @ kjbeo ?	13:50
user__	theadmin then what is spam ?	13:51
wols	synapse: what is your actual problem. I checked the logs but I haven't found a description of it.	13:51
Machtin	so, is it spam to comment on people who comment on spam? :P	13:51
theadmin	user__: that k-dude was spam.	13:51
theadmin	Whatever, we've gone incredibly offtopic	13:51
wols	user__ theadmin BluesKaj Machtin: please leave and go to #ubuntu-offtopic. thank you	13:51
sgo11	hi, I am trying to save a flv file in google-chrome cache. The cahce file gets removed when the size exceeds 40M. how to resolve this issue? 1, where is the file moved to? I can see the video can still play smoothly in chrome. that means it must be cached somewhere. 2, how to increase the limit size? thanks.	13:51
NetworkRenderer	Hello is there an German channel for Ubuntu	13:51
NetworkRenderer	?	13:52
user__	sorry wols	13:52
synapse	wols: nvidia rendering problems when I switch between virtual workspaces	13:52
wols	!de \| NetworkRenderer	13:52
ubottu	NetworkRenderer: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!	13:52
theadmin	NetworkRenderer: Ja, und es heisst #ubuntu-de	13:52
BluesKaj	wols, get a life !	13:52
NetworkRenderer	DAnke	13:52
Machtin	wols: I have no intention to join that channel, but I'll leave as you requested. Good day and enjoy spamming on spam-comments :)	13:52
wols	sgo11: where do you see this max 40MB file? what path?	13:52
sgo11	wols, ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache	13:53
wols	sgo11: the cache for your chrome instance is somewhere in your home directory. probably under .chrome or such	13:53
sgo11	wols, when the cache file exceeds 40M. it's removed.	13:53
user__	sgo11 you can download the file using easy youtube downloader ! its easy	13:54
sgo11	wols, I can find the cache file. my problem is chrome is trying to remove any cache file exceeds 40M. I am not sure if it gets removed or moved to somewhere else.	13:55
wols	sgo11: as user__ suggested, I think you should use a specialized tool to download the flv files	13:55
theadmin	sgo11: Run google-chrome with --disk-cache-size="5000000M"	13:55
theadmin	sgo11: Or whatever :D	13:55
dr_willis	put the disk cache in your UbuntuOne Account dir!	13:56
sgo11	user__, the video is not from youtube.	13:56
dr_willis	:)	13:56
sgo11	theadmin, I have already tried it. it doesn't work.	13:57
user__	wols its a tool you can use in firefox opera , and google chrome	13:57
user__	which site ?	13:57
sgo11	user__, vimeo	13:58
Ulfalizer	how do i list the available versions of a particular package?	13:59
user__	sgo11 i have to leave from ubuntu channel now sorry ! please come to #ubuntu-offtopic k by e	14:00
theadmin	Ulfalizer: Repos normally contain only one available version. You can look at it with apt-cache policy PACKAGE	14:00
jify	Hi guys, i have a question, when i click on the terminal window button on my desktop it opens two terminal windows instead of one, is there something wrong with my os? or is this some simple bug?	14:01
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Faderhval	mjellow #ubuntu, quick question does linux have a LAN protocol like samba native and only for linux clients?	14:01
TheEvilPhoenix	jify: its unlikely its the OS. sticky mouse maybe?	14:01
\|Slacker\|	nfs?	14:01
wols	Faderhval: all network filesystems work on a variety of OSes	14:01
EgyParadox	Faderval:nfs	14:01
EgyParadox	Faderhval*	14:01
escott	jify, use "xev" to see if there are multiple clicks being sent	14:02
theadmin	Faderhval: sshfs	14:02
jify	TheEvilPhoenix: thats a relief, ill try and change the mouse	14:02
TheEvilPhoenix	jify: it could just be the actual computer (not OS) interpreting a double click as a quad click...	14:02
TheEvilPhoenix	jify: does anything happen when you click once on said terminal button/link/launcher/	14:03
Ulfalizer	theadmin: ok, doesn't have the latest in that case	14:03
Faderhval	so if i want to do transfer files between two linux machines over LAN the best way would be nfs? sshfs?	14:04
jify	TheEvilPhoenix: no it just pops up two terminals everytime i click	14:04
theadmin	Ulfalizer: That's Ubuntu, it commonly doesn't have latest software.	14:04
wols	Faderhval: samba	14:04
TheEvilPhoenix	jify: so you didn't answer my question. WHen you click *only once*, does anything happen? Simple yes/no.	14:04
jify	TheEvilPhoenix: no nothing happens	14:05
Faderhval	i have samba configured but isn't that for windows shares? i was wondering if there were something like that but for linux	14:05
rigved	Faderhval: my suggestion would be sshfs, because it's secure and very easy to setup...can be integrated into the file browser using bookmarks also	14:05
BluesKaj	Faderhval, ssh works well, if you want an automount ni fstab , then install sshfs	14:05
Faderhval	sshfs seems to be the answer, does it work with mget and get and so on im guessing?	14:06
Ulfalizer	theadmin: any common places where you might find packages for later versions? manually installing programs overwriting files tracked by the package manager might be a bad idea, right?	14:07
wols	Faderhval: it's not the answer	14:07
escott	Ulfalizer, if you want a newer upstream version there might be a ppa, but usually there isnt	14:08
theadmin	!checkinstall \| Ulfalizer	14:08
ubottu	Ulfalizer: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!	14:08
Myrtti	Faderhval: if you don't mind living with the latency the encryption brings in, then sshfs is ok-ish. If you are certain that the machine sharing files will stay in the LAN and doesn't need that much security or encryption, then choose NFS. There is quite a speed difference.	14:09
rypervenche	Ulfalizer: If you're really worried about version number, you might want to try a different distribution.	14:09
theadmin	Ulfalizer: Indeed, Arch is awesome for all-latest things.	14:09
Faderhval	wols, I am aware of samba and I am currently using it for LAN shares. And it works well but it anoys me that it is basicly designed for windows shares i was looking for something native to linux	14:09
wols	Faderhval: it wasn't designed for windows	14:09
Ulfalizer	is check-install safe even for overwriting files from "normal" packages?	14:10
wols	Faderhval: and at this point in time, NFS is a lot worse supported all over than samba/cifs	14:10
theadmin	Ulfalizer: Totally. Just make sure they have the same name	14:10
Ulfalizer	ok, thanks	14:10
theadmin	Ulfalizer: That way it'd count as an upgrade	14:10
Ulfalizer	why doesn't ubuntu provide "unstable" versions of packages corresponding to bleeding-edge stuff in the main repositories?	14:11
Faderhval	wols is it wrong that samba was developed for linux so that win and linux could do networking?	14:11
raluxgaza	Hi guys my mic isn't working on 11.04, I am using an aspire 4810T, help pls. I have looked around can't find anything to fix this in 11.04	14:11
escott	raluxgaza, have you turned up the mic boost in alsamixer	14:11
wols	Faderhval: dunno if it was developed only for winodws interoperability, but I do know that smb/cifs (the network protocol) was not developed and designed for Windows	14:12
Ulfalizer	Faderhval: they can still do networking. it's just for some specific protocols (e.g. smb).	14:12
raluxgaza	escott, yes i have, nothing still :(	14:12
fritzophrenic	ugh, I just read that Ubuntu Oneiric will not supply GNOME desktop as an alternative to Unity...have they fixed all the broken stuff in compiz and in Unity in general related to Unity? I liked it but had to constantly restart X when it was enabled	14:12
escott	raluxgaza, do you know if this is intel hda sound? lsmod \| grep snd_hda_?	14:13
escott	fritzophrenic, where are you reading that? gnome is definitely in oneiric	14:13
rypervenche	Ulfalizer: Because Ubuntu is based on Debian, which is a very stable release.	14:14
theadmin	rypervenche: Ubuntu is based on Debian Testing, which is not so "stable" as you think	14:14
Ulfalizer	rypervenche: could still provide the option though	14:14
jify	TheEvilPhoenix:i will try and change the mouse, and see what happens	14:14
Faderhval	I'm a bit confused tbh :) but sshfs for secure transfer a littly laggy thou, NFS for faster but insecure transfer and then smbd... right will go do somereading on the various topics thanks for the answers	14:14
Ulfalizer	i.e., default to old, tested versions	14:14
wols	Ulfalizer: they do	14:14
raluxgaza	escott, yes its intel	14:14
astraljava	fritzophrenic: GNOME2 will be removed from oneiric, but GNOME3 is definitely the desktop.	14:14
bregma	fritzophrenic, I have Oneiric installed an Gnome is one of the alternative desktops	14:14
Ulfalizer	wols: in some centralized location? or is it up to third parties to provide packages for later versions?	14:14
acicula	escott: astraljava: think he means the gnome-classic fallback option wont be there	14:15
escott	raluxgaza, have you looked at this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA	14:15
rypervenche	theadmin: I am aware. I use Debian Testing as my main distro.	14:15
wols	Ulfalizer: the oneiric repos are just that: unstable software but newer than what is in natty	14:15
astraljava	acicula: Yes, hence I mentioned GNOME2.	14:15
theadmin	rypervenche: Ah, nice I guess	14:15
Ulfalizer	wols: ok	14:15
raluxgaza	escott, I am looking into it, thanks for your help	14:15
acicula	astraljava: ah like so, metacity is not part of gnome3, so its not so much gnome-classic being dropped as it is gnome 2 not being packaged?	14:17
acicula	for ubuntu 11.10	14:17
fritzophrenic	astraljava, hmm ok...I'm not sure what that means for me...it sounds like if I need to not have Unity, I can disable it. I suppose I won't put off the upgrade too long when it comes around then.	14:17
pk__	when i install mingw32 i get i586-mingw32msvc-gcc version 4.2	14:19
pk__	but i need at least 4.3	14:19
pk__	how can i get it?	14:19
astraljava	acicula: Upstream moved on, so no point in including it anymore.	14:19
acicula	astraljava: that seems sensible yeah	14:19
fs	I have 2 different applications that watch files. I was wondering if it possible to run these two application in one shell window?	14:20
acicula	pk__: if its not in the repo you will have to find someone who packages it in his/hers ppa, or perhaps directly from the ming project page?	14:20
acicula	pk__: or failing that build it yourself	14:20
escott	fs, byobu or screen	14:20
rypervenche	fs: Yep, if you use "screen".	14:20
ikonia	fs: you could background them with &	14:20
fs	thanks guys, appreciate it :)	14:21
sodaorat	Hi	14:21
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sodaorat	I've got a copy problem on a external hard disk	14:21
sodaorat	NTFS btw	14:21
sodaorat	When I copy a big file, it stucks at about 60 Mo	14:22
sodaorat	and I don't know which tool to use under Ubuntu	14:22
rypervenche	sodaorat: How big is the file?	14:22
sodaorat	to check the disk for example	14:22
sodaorat	mmm	14:22
sodaorat	350 Mo	14:22
IAmNotThatGuy	sodaorat, please try to keep them all in some 2 lines. do not post each sentence in a new line	14:23
sodaorat	ok sorry	14:23
acicula	Mo?	14:24
Benkinooby	sodaorat, if you use cp -v it will be verbose and possibily show you errors. also are you sure that ther is enough space?	14:24
sodaorat	Mb	14:24
sodaorat	yes	14:24
ubuntu_	hey	14:24
ubuntu_	does somebody have any experience isntalling ubuntu on GPT disk non uefi	14:24
sodaorat	I copied with Nautilus, I'll try again with the terminal and use cp -v, thanks	14:24
ubuntu_	nobody :(?	14:25
dr_willis	sodaorat, You may want to try 'mc' also. its a text based file manager. Ive seen bugs where copying to USB flash gets slower and slower and slooooowerr.... when doing big files.. but lots of little files work. So you may want to monitor the mb/s speeds.	14:25
sodaorat	ok. cp -v is stuck,	14:26
sodaorat	I'll try mc	14:26
sw0rdfish	what does concatenate mean?	14:26
Benkinooby	sodaorat, you can also use the command dmesg to see if any system error messages came	14:27
escott	ubuntu_, gpt yes, efi no	14:27
theadmin	sw0rdfish: combine	14:27
ubuntu_	escott	14:27
sodaorat	btw, the copy is stuck, and with Ctrl-Z, Ctrl C, Ctrl Q it doesn't stop	14:27
ubuntu_	i meant with no efi	14:27
sw0rdfish	oh I see thanks.	14:27
dr_willis	sw0rdfish, to join together.	14:27
ubuntu_	you also have gpt with efi, which makes it way easier to install	14:27
ubuntu_	but i am on normal bios	14:27
theadmin	dr_willis: "join together" makes as much sense as "eat food" xD	14:27
acicula	sodaorat: between what kind of devices are you copying?	14:27
ubuntu_	I can;t seem to install ubuntu on my gpt drive	14:27
ubuntu_	well i cant boot after install..	14:28
ubuntu_	only boot from my standard windows 7	14:28
sodaorat	message in dmesg: usb 2-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3	14:28
sodaorat	I'm copying from my local hd (ext4) to a external hd device (NTFS)	14:28
escott	ubuntu_, there is nothing special about it really. with the gpt+bios you still need to have an mbr. but its a good practice to create a gpt partition and a grub_bios partition	14:28
ubuntu_	so i need to make a grub bios partititon	14:29
ubuntu_	how big?	14:29
ubuntu_	2mb enough?	14:29
Benkinooby	sodaorat, just to test it: copy it to the same hard disc... just to see if that works	14:29
Sidewinder1	!enter \| ubuntu_	14:29
ubottu	ubuntu_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	14:29
ubuntu_	sure.	14:29
Sidewinder1	:-)	14:29
acicula	ubuntu_: id make it no smaller then 100mb for /boot, kernels + initrds also take up space	14:29
ubuntu_	Do you know how to put unallocated space to unallocated spade?	14:29
sodaorat	Benkonooby: it works	14:30
ubuntu_	as i have leftover 2.25mb	14:30
coz_	acicula, did you read this http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/booting.html	14:30
escott	ubuntu_, don't remember how big offhand, but it can be small. i would recommend reading http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html	14:30
Floclo	hey excuse me for butting in...	14:30
Floclo	does anybody have a macbook running ubuntu	14:30
coz_	acicula, scroll down to "Booting with EFI"	14:30
Floclo	?	14:30
tiger_	hi	14:30
escott	ubuntu_, the main page is actually http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/index.html	14:31
coz_	Floclo, I know several people who come here do , I do not personally	14:31
ubuntu_	ok now i am confused?	14:31
Floclo	coz_ ok they are not available currently?	14:31
acicula	coz_: no i havent, what am i looking for?	14:31
tiger_	yes	14:31
coz_	acicula, scroll down a bit to "Installing to efi" you will see this Ubuntu 11.04 has an extremely serious bug that causes it to erase any existing ESP, thus wiping out any existing boot loaders or other files installed there. Be sure to back up your ESP before you install Ubuntu to a (U)EFI system!	14:32
Floclo	coz do they come here often?	14:32
ubuntu_	i dont have efi?	14:32
ubuntu_	>_>	14:32
coz_	Floclo, they do but I dont have their names off hand	14:32
s3r3n1t7	If memory serves me well, there was this bootable CD, that could fix any form of bootloader, including of windows and linux .... yet i forgot its name ...	14:32
Floclo	coz no problem thanks for the info	14:32
sodaorat	I can't manage to kill the process of copying! (the cp -v) with kill 2724 and after kill -9 2724	14:33
escott	acicula, ubuntu_ the grub_bios partition is actually a smaller partition for the stage1 part of grub2 it is not for /boot	14:33
Floclo	will have to come here regularly to catch them :-D	14:33
Sidewinder1	Floclo, Have you asked/searched: http://ubuntuforums.org/	14:33
coz_	Floclo, absolutely,, dont give up on that,,,	14:33
coz_	!mac	14:33
ubottu	For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages	14:33
ubuntu_	i remember deleting bios_grub as i had no idea wtf it was	14:34
Floclo	ubottu thanks I will re-read it	14:34
ubottu	Floclo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	14:34
ubuntu_	it was an leftover of my ubuntu installation that failed	14:34
Floclo	lol	14:34
Sidewinder1	s3r3n1t7, Was it "supergrub?"	14:34
acicula	escott: ah i see, then you wont need space for kernels indeed. think the grub stages are supposed to fit on 1.4M disks still, says 1.5Mb in use here	14:34
s3r3n1t7	Sidewinder1, yes! thank you!	14:34
Floclo	im real new to this	14:34
Sidewinder1	NP	14:34
escott	ubuntu_, in gpt there isn't guaranteed to be the same space between the end of the mbr and the beginning of the partition table, so you have to have a partition for that section of the bootloader if you are relying on an mbr and not efi boot	14:35
IAmNotThatGuy	!mac \| Floclo	14:35
ubottu	Floclo: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages	14:35
IAmNotThatGuy	Floclo, I am sute that you can find a plenty of help there	14:35
IAmNotThatGuy	sure*	14:35
Floclo	awesome guys i am running ubuntu now its just the isight camera	14:35
coz_	Floclo, ok cool,, just dont get frustrated,, there are exeptionally birght people that give their time freely here,, a lot depends on timezones,,families,,school. etc for them to be online	14:35
Floclo	cant get it working :(	14:35
ubuntu_	so i need to make a .boot partition?	14:35
jrib	!mac \| Floclo	14:35
ubottu	Floclo: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages	14:35
jrib	oops	14:36
Sidewinder1	IAmNotThatGuy, Thanx, I completely forgot about that factoid; don't use a MAC.	14:36
Floclo	coz i know this is the best community even in the short time ive been here	14:36
IAmNotThatGuy	Sidewinder1, ?_?	14:36
escott	ubuntu_, whether or not you have a boot partition is up to you, but you should have a grub_bios partition	14:36
IAmNotThatGuy	Floclo, http://handyfloss.net/2008.07/making-isight-camera-work-in-ubuntu/	14:36
jrib	Floclo: my camera works fine on my macbook, but you need to extract the firmware :/ The directions are on the wiki	14:36
Floclo	woah awesome heading there now	14:36
ubuntu_	ok	14:36
ubuntu_	how big does it need to be	14:37
Floclo	thanks guys really great help	14:37
sodaorat	I have now 2 tabs stucks: one with the cp, one with the mc!	14:37
IAmNotThatGuy	np Floclo =]	14:37
Sidewinder1	IAmNotThatGuy, Your reference to the "mac" factoid for Floclo .	14:37
IAmNotThatGuy	soda pkill is not working?	14:37
IAmNotThatGuy	Sidewinder1, can you explain why not to do that?	14:38
Benkinooby	sodaorat, are you on command line only?	14:38
sodaorat	non	14:38
escott	ubuntu_, it is not a mountpoint but a flag on the partition. i don't know exactly how big it can be, but it can be fairly small. grub will just put part the part of the bootloader that it would have placed between the mbr and bios partition table that it can't safely do with gpt. probably less than a meg total	14:38
sodaorat	I've a terminal with 3 tabs on Ubuntu 11.04	14:38
Floclo	hey I am also having trouble getting chrome to set as default	14:38
Floclo	firefox seems to rule with an iron fist!	14:38
Sidewinder1	IAmNotThatGuy, No, no, I just forgot about that factoid and was thanking you for refreshing this old memory. :-)	14:38
IAmNotThatGuy	ah!	14:38
sodaorat	Benkinooby: I managed to kill mc, but the process cp -v is still stuck	14:39
IAmNotThatGuy	Sidewinder1, FYI http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi	14:39
Benkinooby	sodaorat, killall cp	14:39
sodaorat	thx	14:39
Benkinooby	sodaorat, that will kill all cp processes	14:39
Floclo	is the default browser issue 11.04 only?	14:39
Benkinooby	sodaorat, worked?	14:39
sodaorat	nope	14:39
Sidewinder1	IAmNotThatGuy, I guess I shoulda' said "I" don't use a mac, sorry for the confusion.	14:40
Benkinooby	ok, try it as sudo	14:40
IAmNotThatGuy	No issues Sidewinder1 use the link to find all factoids	14:40
sodaorat	Benkinooby: waw still here	14:40
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Benkinooby	sodaorat, did you try to copy that file on the same hard disc?	14:41
IAmNotThatGuy	Floclo, gimme a min to find the solution	14:41
IAmNotThatGuy	Benkinooby, sodaorat told that it worked perfectly	14:41
Benkinooby	sodaorat, it would be good to find out if the problem is the hard disc you wnat to copy to, or the file you want to copy	14:41
Benkinooby	IAmNotThatGuy, sodaorat oh, ok missed that, sry	14:41
sodaorat	Benkinooby: yes. The USB drive is thinking a lot (the light flashes)	14:41
Sidewinder1	IAmNotThatGuy, Yes, I'm more than familiar with that link; as a matter of fact, I keep a dialog window open with ubottu, just to double check before I "sick" the bot on someone. :-)	14:41
Benkinooby	sodaorat, maybe ist's jsut dam slow?	14:42
coz_	sodaorat, how large is the flash drive?	14:42
IAmNotThatGuy	Sidewinder1, lol	14:42
Benkinooby	sodaorat, you could also try to us nautilus,... it should show you a progress bar..	14:42
ubuntu_	how can you set a flagpartition	14:42
ubuntu_	well how can you flag it?	14:42
sodaorat	Benkinooby: It's not a flash drive, it's a external hard disk (500 GB), with 300 GB available	14:42
ubuntu_	as it is 1mb big, you cnat make a partition of it	14:42
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, partition flag you mean? i know that you can set the "bootable flag" with fdisk... gparted can do it too, i think	14:43
sodaorat	Benkinooby: Yes with Nautilus, the progress bar is stuck at about 60 Mo/360 Mo	14:43
raluxgaza	still can't get my mic to work, this is painful	14:43
IAmNotThatGuy	ubuntu_, Gparted?	14:43
ubuntu_	im on gparted	14:43
Benkinooby	sodaorat, Mb you mean	14:43
sodaorat	Benkinooby: Yes, Mb sorry, french habit ;)	14:43
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, which version of mic ?	14:43
escott	ubuntu_, please keep your responses on one line and include my name in your response. it should appear as a flag or partition type in gdisk or parted. i dont remember exactly where	14:43
Benkinooby	sodaorat, but if the hard disk is still blinking, maybe it's till coyping...	14:43
raluxgaza	hda-intel	14:43
IAmNotThatGuy	err H/w raluxgaza*	14:44
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, the intel one	14:44
Sidewinder1	ubuntu_, Not to but in, but are you sure that the partition is NTFS and not fat32?	14:44
ubuntu_	i am keeping it on one line?	14:44
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, OS?	14:44
sodaorat	Benkinooby: But with Nautilus, the progress bar was stuck, I let it wait for about 15 minutes, no progress.	14:44
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, 11.04	14:44
ubuntu_	the partition is unallocated	14:44
ksx4system	how do I set which NTP (network time) server clock in ubuntu uses?	14:44
sodaorat	Benkinooby: and it's weird that we can't kill the cp process isn't it?	14:44
ksx4system	is it something related with NTP daemon? I'm using 11.04	14:44
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, aspire 4810t	14:44
Benkinooby	sodaorat, that's true... even as sudo...	14:44
zykotick9	ksx4system, "cat /etc/ntp.conf" should show you	14:45
sodaorat	Benkinooby: But if I unplug the hard disk, it will be ok	14:45
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, have you visited https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes before?	14:45
coz_	sodaorat, what I have noticed on 11.04 with a 6 gig flash drive,, is that the system seems to cache the files to be copied first,, slowly,, while the flash drive just sits there ,,these were large files some being well over 2 gigs however	14:45
Benkinooby	sodaorat, try to copy a different file from your hdd to the ntfs ... mybe not that big... just to see if that works	14:45
Sidewinder1	ksx4system, Perhaps it has something to do with "tzdata?"	14:45
escott	ubuntu_, in parted it is set # grub_bios on. in gparted it should be in a dropdown where you have things like swap/boot/etc	14:45
Benkinooby	sodaorat, what will be ok?	14:45
ubuntu_	mann	14:45
ubuntu_	can't i just install ubuntu normally?	14:46
sodaorat	Benkinooby: I managed to copy little files (15 Mo). If I unplug the disk, the cp process will stop.	14:46
ksx4system	zykotick9: thanks. it'll be piece of cake to tweak it now :)	14:46
Benkinooby	sodaorat, hm, ok	14:46
coz_	ubuntu_, sorry didnt see your whole post,, are you dual botting?	14:46
ubuntu_	triple booting	14:46
escott	ubuntu_, gpt+bios is not a normal config, thats part of the problem	14:46
ubuntu_	if i want linux	14:46
sodaorat	coz_: yes my pb is only with 300 Mb hehe	14:46
coz_	ubuntu_, ooo ok.. which other systems do you have so far?	14:47
ubuntu_	win7/win7	14:47
ubuntu_	but if i install ubuntu it wont show up..	14:47
ksx4system	zykotick9: but... what if i don't have ntp.conf file? should I create new one (or just copy from one of my Debian boxes)?	14:47
coz_	ubuntu_, 2 windows7 installs?	14:47
ubuntu_	yes	14:47
noelia	hello everyone	14:47
ubuntu_	hi	14:47
ksx4system	clock says it syncs via internet but i need to force using my own NTP server @ LAN	14:47
zykotick9	ksx4system, no, that means it's being dealt with through some other means. Sorry I don't know, best of luck.	14:48
noelia	Would you please help me out with an issue that is driving me mad?	14:48
sodaorat	Benkinooby, coz_: that's why I think that there is a problem with the hard disk, and I wanted to check if there are any tools to check the disk health. Do you know some?	14:48
IAmNotThatGuy	!ask \| noelia	14:48
ubottu	noelia: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	14:48
ubuntu_	@coz yes i have 2 windows install	14:48
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, yes I have, no luck :(	14:48
Benkinooby	sodaorat, i don't know if there are progs to chekc the ntfgs-health in ubuntu	14:48
coz_	sodaorat, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/disk-check.html	14:48
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, I am finding a bug in that. Not sure whether it is yours	14:49
noelia	The thing is I recently installed mySQL, and I can't initiate its daemon because it returns: Warning: Fake initctl: Doing nothing	14:49
escott	ubuntu_, the basics of grub+mbr+gpt is relatively simple. grub installs itself to the mbr, and to the grub_bios partition and to the /boot partition. mbr executes the data in your grub_bios partition which then hands off to the /boot partition at which point you can boot linux/chainload windows etc. but you need the grub_bios partition	14:49
sodaorat	thx	14:49
noelia	I have tried reinstalling mysql-server but it didn't work	14:49
ubuntu_	So if i install ubuntu	14:50
noelia	I also installed the updates	14:50
noelia	Many things I've tried	14:50
noelia	I don't know what else to do	14:50
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, no i haven't posted	14:50
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, No. I am telling whether it is for your version	14:50
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, oh :)	14:51
IAmNotThatGuy	Bug #818553	14:51
ubottu	Launchpad bug 818553 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[Aspire 4810T, Realtek ALC269, Mic, Internal] Background noise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818553	14:51
Benkinooby	coz_, sodaorat i think if disk health was not ok, dmesg would have shown something	14:51
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, ^	14:51
sakthi	hi	14:51
sakthi	newbie here	14:51
noelia	Before this happened, I couldn't log in to mySQL, because it didn't let me enter with my user name or password	14:51
sakthi	i mean newbie to ubuntu	14:51
coz_	sodaorat, how large is the hard drive?	14:51
noelia	What else should I do?	14:51
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, thanks for you help looking into now	14:51
IAmNotThatGuy	sakthi, welcome and shoot your query	14:51
IAmNotThatGuy	raluxgaza, Hope it will get solved soon	14:52
escott	sodaorat, do you mean smart status? smartmon-tools	14:52
ubuntu_	And select customize it, what do i need to do?	14:52
ubuntu_	well its called something else	14:52
Benkinooby	sodaorat, mabye try the command "rsync -av --progress" i aksed for it in #debian ... it has a different syntax though	14:52
raluxgaza	IAmNotThatGuy, yea, hope so too, thanks again	14:52
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IAmNotThatGuy	noelia, have you followed the forums links? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10298433 ?	14:52
IAmNotThatGuy	sakthi, there?	14:53
ubuntu_	anybody? If i select something else what do i need to do?	14:53
Benkinooby	sodaorat, rsync -av --progress /your/sourcefile /your/destination	14:53
sakthi	i am configuring svnmanager tool which manages svn, while doing it is trying to send a mail, i think i have to configure senmail.. like to know how to congfigure sendmail	14:53
bullgard4_	I installed Natty on 2 free partitions using the 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64-CD '. I cannot login because the keyboard settings are wrong (probably a wrong keyboard model). Natty does not accept any keyboard combinations with AltGr. Pressing the Y key interprets Natty as Z. How to fix that? I can access the Recovery menu though.	14:53
sodaorat	<Benkinooby>: I unplug first the USB disk and replug it	14:53
sakthi	IAmNotThatGuy yea, very much here :)	14:54
Benkinooby	sodaorat, ok	14:54
IAmNotThatGuy	sakthi, ;)	14:54
wols	bullgard4_: boot to a console without any X and check if your keyboard is set up correctly there	14:54
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noelia	IAMNoththatguy Yes, I already read that page, but... Does Samba really have anything to do with initctl or mySQL?	14:54
ubuntu_	Can anybody explain me why if i normal install Ubuntu it wont work?	14:55
IAmNotThatGuy	sakthi, can you please visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1031171 ?	14:55
ubuntu_	I'm pretty sick of trying to install ubuntu for 8 hours straight..	14:55
bullgard4_	wols: I am just now booted in a console without X. What I wrote, I have alreday checked in the console. How to fix these errors?	14:55
Bilange	is there any piece of software that gives me a web based routing configuration on ubuntu? (a bit like pfSense does, basically) I just need wan firewall and port forwards, nothing fancy actually.	14:55
sakthi	i googled on sendmail configuration.. not success in getting answer	14:55
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, ok, what did you try until now and what error messages or faults did you got?	14:56
sakthi	IAmNotThatGuy.. will check that site	14:56
ArchangelSe7en	ubuntu_, define "wont work" , more details would help a lot.	14:56
wols	bullgard4_: boot to a console without any X and check if your keyboard is set up correctly there	14:56
ubuntu_	no boot option	14:56
ubuntu_	i have never got any error	14:56
disse	hey guys, can i encrypt my home dir with an other pass than my own user pass? The other pass should be looooong but my user pass shouldn't be so long	14:56
disse	and how can i do that	14:56
ArchangelSe7en	that sounds rather obscure	14:56
ubuntu_	first 4 hours was figuring out why it was infinitely stuck at preparing install	14:57
disse	why? encrypting full with my ssd is not working	14:57
disse	so only the home dir	14:57
disse	but i want to be real safe	14:57
disse	so looong pass	14:57
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, do you use a CD, pen drive, what version of ubuntu?	14:57
bullgard4_	wols: Are you able to react on what I have written to you? Please do not do plain repeating of a previous message.	14:57
disse	but on every sudo the long pass is shit	14:57
ubuntu_	pen drive,	14:57
Sidewinder1	ubuntu_, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning/copying to USB?	14:57
ubuntu_	i didnt as i couldnt fine the option..	14:58
ubuntu_	find*,	14:58
ArchangelSe7en	use an md5sum checker	14:58
noelia	Iamnotthatguy Does Samba have anything to do with mySQL or Initctl? I just need to know that, please.	14:58
Sidewinder1	ubuntu_, Maybe, then, your ISO has an error?	14:58
wols	bullgard4_: if you cannot follow simple instructions shrug	14:58
ubuntu_	live is working..	14:58
ubuntu_	it is what i am on now	14:58
bullgard4_	wols: Your message is not helpful.	14:59
wols	noelia: not by default	14:59
ubuntu_	but do know i am trying to make a gpt drive bootable with Ubuntu	14:59
wols	bullgard4_: remember: you want help from us. I am (or probably was) willing to help. if you can get help elsewhere: fine by me.	14:59
noelia	wols How could I solve the problem?	14:59
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, gpt?	14:59
IAmNotThatGuy	noelia, I'm sorry I posted the wrong link and closed the actual one :[	14:59
ubuntu_	yeah GPT drive	15:00
noelia	iamnotthatguy Thank you very much anyway	15:00
noelia	:)	15:00
dr_willis	!gpt	15:00
IAmNotThatGuy	(:	15:00
bullgard4_	wols: Very well yelled.	15:00
sakthi	IAmNotThatGuy, will there be a problem if sendmail is also running with postfix ?	15:00
IAmNotThatGuy	sakthi, I dont think so	15:01
* wols relaxes, grabs the popcorn, watches bullgard4_ and giggles		15:01
ikonia	sakthi: it won't run	15:01
ikonia	sakthi: you can only run one MTA at one time	15:01
Sidewinder1	bullgard4, Please don't mind him; he definitely got up on the wrong side of the bed this am. :-)	15:01
ArchangelSe7en	brb	15:01
SantiG	hey guys, is there a way to uninstall ubuntu from my computer? I have my disk partitioned with windows and ubuntu, and i was wondering if i could delete ubuntu without having to format the whole disk	15:01
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, hm, i have no experience with gpt drives... did anyone else have problems with that?	15:01
* IAmNotThatGuy hugs wols		15:01
ubuntu_	i guess everybody ?	15:02
dr_willis	SantiG, reinstall the windows bootloader via windows. use windows tools or a live cd to delett linux partitions..	15:02
ubuntu_	who wanted to boot with gpt	15:02
dr_willis	SantiG, then resize/remake windows partitions as needed	15:02
* Sidewinder1 Slides him a cup-o-coffee. :-)		15:02
wols	SantiG: no there is not. you cannot "uninstall" an OS, you can only overwrite it. restore your bootloader to boot windows only with a windows cd and then reformat or delete or whatever you ubuntu partition	15:02
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> It's stuck	15:02
sodaorat	43057152 11% 20.47MB/s 0:00:15	15:02
dr_willis	SantiG, unless you did a 'Wubi' install Inside windows.. in which case. theres a Ubuntu entry in the add/remove programs listing.	15:03
ikonia	bullgard4_: why do you need the alt+gr key to login ?	15:03
Benkinooby	sodaorat, no error message i guess	15:03
wols	Benkinooby: tons of propblems unfortunately	15:03
compdoc`	SantiG, yes, you can	15:03
SantiG	compdoc, how can i do it?	15:03
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, http://www.wensley.org.uk/gpt might help you.. i can't i never had to do with gpt	15:03
SantiG	dr_willis i did the wubi install	15:03
bullgard4_	ikonia: In order to key in a letter '@'.	15:03
compdoc`	SantiG, does it boot grub?	15:03
dr_willis	SantiG, then you do NOT havce Ubuntu partitions like you stated.. Its in the add/remove program area.	15:03
ikonia	bullgard4_: is that part of your username/password ?	15:04
SantiG	dr_willis, i'll check if i have it in the add/remove	15:04
bullgard4_	ikonia: Yes.	15:04
ubuntu_	i read it but i dont understand a shiz	15:04
SantiG	compdoc, sorry i do not know much about this, whats grub?	15:04
julie101010	how do I add the battery charge indicator in the menu bar on 11.04?	15:04
Benkinooby	wols, you are refering to gpt ?	15:04
ikonia	bullgard4_: for the purpose of resolving the problem, change the username/password to not contain @ so you can login and debug/progress the issue	15:04
wols	Benkinooby: yes	15:04
Sidewinder1	SantiG, Even if it's not in add/remove, since it's a WUBI install, simply delete the files.	15:04
compdoc`	SantiG, when it boots, do you get a menu with a choice between ubuntu and windows?	15:04
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, is there any other important info on your hard disk?	15:04
ubuntu_	sure is	15:05
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, or can you toy around with it?	15:05
SantiG	compdoc, yes i do	15:05
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> no error message	15:05
ubuntu_	1,3tb of important stuff	15:05
ubuntu_	raided	15:05
SantiG	Sidewinder1, and where are supossed to be those files?	15:05
ubuntu_	Im only playing with one partition as i dont want to touch all my important stuff	15:05
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> I'll try to kill the process	15:05
Benkinooby	sodaorat, ok	15:05
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> waw there are 3 process rsync	15:06
Sidewinder1	SantiG, Not sure what directory, \ubuntu, perhaps? I would not touch WUBI, so I'm not that familiar with it, other than the basics.	15:06
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, what i want to say, is if you play around with grub, wich will modify your partition table, you are running a certain risk to lose all your data	15:06
Benkinooby	sodaorat, :(	15:06
dr_willis	SantiG, one of the features of wubi is that you can Uninstall it via the add/remove programs stuff and it should undo all that.	15:06
bullgard4_	ikonia: How can I change the username/password combination on the root console? By using an 'adduser' command?	15:06
ubuntu_	yeah i am stopping	15:07
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, so, sorry, gpt and raid is way above my level	15:07
dr_willis	SantiG, removeing it any other way.. and you may miss somthing	15:07
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> killall rsync worked this time	15:07
ikonia	bullgard4_: the command "passwd $username"	15:07
ubuntu_	lol okay	15:07
Benkinooby	sodaorat, at least something :P	15:07
ikonia	bullgard4_: that will change the password,	15:07
ubuntu_	DAMM UBUNTU WORK :(	15:07
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> oups there is one process left	15:07
SantiG	dr_willis, i checked the add/remove programs and its not there :S	15:07
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, the only thing you can try is to ask nicely at debian	15:07
bullgard4_	ikonia: I will give it a try.	15:07
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, your problem is not really ubuntu only	15:07
ubuntu_	and then what ?	15:07
IAmNotThatGuy	ikonia, that should be done through the recovery moed and running as root right?	15:07
ubuntu_	i know	15:07
sakthi	IAmNotThatGuy shall i give the smtp server address where i have got mail ids from the webhosting company	15:08
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, maybe one of them has experience with gpt and raids...	15:08
ikonia	IAmNotThatGuy: that's what he's doing	15:08
ubuntu_	i cant install any boot operating system on GPt without trouble	15:08
IAmNotThatGuy	ikonia, okies =]	15:08
ubuntu_	lol	15:08
ubuntu_	benkinooby	15:08
ubuntu_	i am banned from debian	15:08
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, cuz of your nick maybe?	15:08
ubuntu_	lol	15:08
ubuntu_	maybe	15:08
SantiG	talking to my brother he says he actually doesnt remember wether he installed it by wubi or cd :/	15:09
Benkinooby	they are not too happy about ubuntu folk in their channels :(	15:09
ubuntu_	lol	15:09
SantiG	he was the one who installed ubuntu	15:09
ikonia	bullgard4_: they are fine with ubuntu people - please don't suggest that	15:09
Sidewinder1	ubuntu_, If you didn't md5sum the ISO, all bets are off; it could be a bad download.	15:09
coz_	ubuntu_, I did find this , not sure if it will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744799	15:09
ubuntu_	oh it detects it	15:09
Benkinooby	sodaorat, so, any news?	15:09
ubuntu_	thats not the problem i just cant get it to boot anything with it	15:09
coz_	!who	15:10
ubottu	As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	15:10
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> I checked the SMART status with the utility drive, and it says it's ok	15:10
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, so it is allready installed? just that you can not boot to it?	15:10
ubuntu_	yeah	15:10
Benkinooby	sodaorat, i expected that...	15:10
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> but I had to unplug the HD to see the rsync really killed	15:10
ikonia	ubuntu_: what is the error when you try to boot it ?	15:10
ubuntu_	no option to boot	15:10
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, can you boot windows? - think you have a dual install, don't you?	15:10
ubuntu_	yeah	15:11
ubuntu_	i can boot	15:11
ikonia	ubuntu_: and what version of ubuntu are you using	15:11
ubuntu_	11.04?	15:11
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> So I think the disk has a problem... maybe because of NTFS	15:11
ikonia	ubuntu_: so what is the error when you try to boot	15:11
ubuntu_	I cant boot	15:11
DetectiveDongs	hi i'm a newb to linux servers: should my /var/www belong to root? doesn't this make building my site difficult?	15:11
ubuntu_	there is no option except windows 7	15:11
ikonia	ubuntu_: yes, but what is the error/problem	15:11
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: set the permissions	15:11
ikonia	ubuntu_: then you did not have grub installed correctly	15:11
ubuntu_	Oh i can't boot after install	15:11
Benkinooby	sodaorat, if you want a really ugly work around... copy the file to a FAT pen drive or so, aand then with windows form pen drive to ntfs....	15:11
ubuntu_	How do i isntall grub correctly?	15:12
escott	ikonia, ubuntu_ can't boot because he hasn't created a grub_bios partition as i instructed him 15 minutes ago	15:12
DetectiveDongs	what do you mean set the permissions ikonia	15:12
ikonia	escott: there we go then,	15:12
rocktop	how to know the total outgoing bandwidth per second from the eth0 ?	15:12
ubuntu_	I did have it	15:12
ubuntu_	and i couldnt boot	15:12
DetectiveDongs	to my current user: ie it shouldn't be set to root?	15:12
ubuntu_	i tried without couldnt boot either	15:12
ikonia	ubuntu_: you need to stop saying "couldn't boot" and exaplin the issue	15:12
ikonia	ubuntu_: that's like me saying "fix it" - you need info, in the same way we need info to help you	15:12
escott	ubuntu_, and have you installed grub after creating the grub_bios partition	15:12
ubuntu_	the issue is i can not select ubuntu	15:12
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, so now you only can boot windows 7 or nothing comes at all?	15:12
ubuntu_	only windows 7	15:12
sodaorat	<Benkinooby> I'm running a SMART test	15:13
ikonia	ubuntu_: please explain your partition layout	15:13
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, and window7 boots sucessfully?	15:13
ubuntu_	ofc	15:13
wols	ubuntu_: you start your PC. after the BIOS screen what comes up on screen first?	15:13
ubuntu_	raid array	15:13
bastidrazor	DetectiveDongs: i have /var/www owned by my user and group by www-data	15:13
ikonia	ubuntu_: software raid ?	15:13
Benkinooby	sodaorat, i never had troubles with copying stuff to ntfs... your problem is quite weired...	15:13
DetectiveDongs	bastidrazor oh ok, i didn't know if there was a risk in changing the permissions on this dir :P	15:13
ubuntu_	its is i think? its motherboard raid	15:13
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, in that case it's hardware	15:14
ikonia	ubuntu_: fakeraiud then - so there is problem number 1	15:14
Benkinooby	ubuntu_, in that case it's hardware raid	15:14
escott	ubuntu_, if you are using bios raid thats going to make things harder. if you are stripping thats going to make it extremely hard	15:14
ikonia	Benkinooby: no - it's not hardware raid	15:14
ubuntu_	lol	15:14
Benkinooby	Oo	15:14
ubuntu_	its raid 0	15:14
bastidrazor	DetectiveDongs: as far as i have seen it hasn't been an issue. just the www directory	15:14
sodaorat	Benkinooby, yes, it's weird, but I'm used to hardware problems hehe	15:14
rocktop	anyidea?	15:14
ikonia	ubuntu_: I'll be honest, that's never going to work for you	15:14
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escott	ubuntu_, you have the worst possible configuration imaginable raid 0 stripping + gpt + mbr/bios boot	15:14
DetectiveDongs	i have a fake raid setup	15:14
ubuntu_	ah great	15:15
DetectiveDongs	it worked fine	15:15
DetectiveDongs	you need dmraid	15:15
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: it won't work for what ubuntu_ wants to do	15:15
DetectiveDongs	oh ok	15:15
Benkinooby	sodaorat, hm... jsut go quick and dirty... use a fat drive and then copy fomr the drive to your ntfs with windows	15:15
FAERY	hiya!	15:15
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: and fakeraid sucess depends on the exact motherboard model	15:15
ubuntu_	so cuz i have GPT+BIOS+RAID 0 it wont work..	15:15
escott	ubuntu_, i know you can get grub + gbt/mbr working by installing grub after creating a grub_bios partition, but i don't know that grub will be able to deal with the fakeraid stripping	15:16
ubuntu_	thats a great thing to hear..	15:16
ikonia	ubuntu_: gpt+raid0+fakeraid = worst configuration possible	15:16
sodaorat	Benkinooby Yeah i'll test that under windows, because I have a dual boot.	15:16
FAERY	goodbye	15:16
coz_	ubuntu_, the gpt alone is going to take a bit of pain	15:16
sodaorat	Benkinooby Thanks a lot for your help	15:16
ikonia	coz_: 10.10 and later = gpt no problem	15:16
coz_	ikonia, ah that at least is good news	15:17
ubuntu_	well i do have hardware raid card for servers in my closet but it's a lil slower than my intel x58 chipset one	15:17
bullgard4_	ikonia:'passwd' worked all right. How can I determine the current active keyboard layout? I think it is stored in a file in the /etc directory.	15:17
ikonia	bullgard4_: env	15:18
Benkinooby	sodaorat, "help"... i tried my best	15:18
himcesjf	Is there a way to download all the files and folders stored in index of/ created using index.html altogether? For example, trying to download all file s anf folders of http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/ ??	15:18
ubuntu_	ill restart..	15:18
escott	himcesjf, wget	15:18
wols	himcesjf: wget	15:19
charlie_	after doing some kernel update from 2.6.32 to 2.6.38, my sound stopped working. help needed	15:19
escott	himcesjf, but please be considerate before doing that. ibiblio is a non-profit. if you want to mirror them you may be able to do so with rsync	15:19
edbian	himcesjf: wget -r	15:19
ikonia	charlie_: how did you do kernel updates ?	15:20
DetectiveDongs	bastidrazor mind if i pm u	15:20
bullgard4_	ikonia: The env command produces no output with direct keyboard relation. I can see LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 though.	15:20
himcesjf	escott: That was just an example. I was thinking to have the files and folders exactly the same way it is stored in there	15:20
himcesjf	I'll try what was suggested here	15:20
ikonia	bullgard4_: the first thing is to check the language is correct	15:20
bastidrazor	DetectiveDongs: not at all.	15:20
sina	can anybody tell me how I can update my Xscreen?	15:20
charlie_	ikonia: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38.xxxx	15:21
mbrochh	hey all. on a fresh 11.04 install, how can i get the panel color to match the rest of my theme's colors (ambience theme)	15:21
charlie_	ikonia: linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic	15:21
stwange	hi, what creates /boot/grub/{stage1,stage2,menu.lst}? Running natty 64 bit, I've installed grub, done a setup through grub (which wouldn't work without me copying stage1 and stage2 from /usr/lib/grub/.../stage1 and stage2 into /boot/grub), but it hasn't created menu.lst. I've tried grub-install /dev/sda but it says "Couldn't find device for /boot"	15:21
mbrochh	It looks windows 3.11ish, old, white and ugly	15:21
sina	can anybody tell me how I can update my Xscreen?	15:21
bullgard4_	ikonia: Does my statement 'LANG=de_DE.UTF-8' fulfill your requirement to check if the language is correct?	15:21
wols	sina: what do you mean with "Xscereen"?	15:21
charlie_	ikonia: this is the kernel that I installed linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic	15:21
escott	stwange, menu.lst is from grub1 aka grub_legacy most have moved to grub2	15:22
ikonia	bullgard4_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf	15:22
ikonia	charlie_: what version of ubuntu are you using	15:22
charlie_	ikonia: 10.04	15:22
ikonia	charlie_: that doesn't look like the right kernel for that OS	15:22
charlie_	ikonia: what do I do now? do I need to downgrade the kernel?	15:22
ikonia	charlie_: how did you upgrade it ? where did you get it from ?	15:23
stwange	escott, thanks. I need grub1 but I can't find grub-legacy in apt-cache. is it grub-coreboot?	15:23
Sidewinder1	ikonia, Looks like he downloaded the Natty image to run on Lucid.	15:23
stwange	escott, note I installed grub with apt-get, not grub2. Not sure if it's just an alias though	15:23
Runeazn	im ubuntu dude :P	15:23
charlie_	ikonia: I got it from the official repository	15:23
escott	stwange, grub-coreboot should be for coreboot aka openbios	15:23
wols	stwange: no, that's not it. why do you need grub1?	15:23
ikonia	charlie_: which official repo	15:23
Runeazn	So what did you tell me to do?	15:23
Runeazn	Im booted in windows currently.,	15:24
stwange	wols, working on an image which I don't have full control over, the underlying imager will expect grub1	15:24
DetectiveDongs	if i want to serve page from both nginx (nobody nogroup) and apache (www-data www-data), /var/www/site1 served by nginx /var/www/site2 from apache; how should my permissions be then?	15:24
escott	stwange, grub-pc is grub2 sorry	15:25
ikonia	DetectiveDongs nginx ?	15:25
charlie_	ikonia: Im sorry, I dont know but I installed it by typing "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic"	15:25
fritzophrenic	I'm looking to log the websites visited by my daughter. I don't want to set up filtering - whitelists are too restrictive (she's almost a teenager) and blacklists don't work anyway - I just want to be able to monitor what she's visiting. I'd rather have a nice GUI over pure command-line tools. Any suggestions? I found browser-history but reading the description I don't think there would be a way to make sure she doesn't c	15:25
DetectiveDongs	yes nginx?	15:25
ikonia	charlie_: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file	15:25
fritzophrenic	worst case I can have my router email me logs and grep through them for her IP address but that just sounds like a lot of work	15:25
edbian	fritzophrenic: she doesn't what?	15:25
DetectiveDongs	ikonia you're like neo in the matrix with helping people this morning :P	15:25
edbian	fritzophrenic: You're first post got caught off	15:26
celthunder	fritzophrenic: nothing stopping her from killing it anyway	15:26
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: how can you run two webservers at once ?	15:26
DetectiveDongs	different ports	15:26
DetectiveDongs	(local dev)	15:26
escott	stwange, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto for grub-legacy docs	15:26
sina	is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???	15:26
charlie_	ikonia: # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 (20110211.1)]/ lucid main restricted	15:26
charlie_	# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to	15:26
charlie_	# newer versions of the distribution.	15:26
charlie_	deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted	15:26
charlie_	deb-src http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted	15:26
sina	is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???	15:26
FloodBot1	charlie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	15:26
charlie_	## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the	15:26
sina	is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???	15:26
stwange	thanks escott	15:26
FloodBot1	sina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	15:26
fritzophrenic	I found browser-history but reading the description I don't think there would be a way to make sure she doesn't clear the history.	15:26
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: in that case the permissions need to be a group that both the apache owner and the nginx owner are a member of and has at least read access	15:26
himcesjf	escott: To mirror is to have data stored in the same way it is organised in Index of/ ? How does rsync helps to do same?	15:26
IAmNotThatGuy	!pastebin \| charlie_	15:26
ubottu	charlie_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	15:26
ikonia	!pastebin \| charlie_	15:27
DetectiveDongs	ikonia if nginx is under nobody.nogroup, i'm not sure how that exactly works	15:27
IAmNotThatGuy	ah! muted :D	15:27
keithclark	I am trying to create a live usb stick with startup disk creator and it won't let me select my image of choice, puppy linux. Is it designed to only work with Ubuntu .iso's?	15:27
DetectiveDongs	do i need to run nginx under an actual user in that case	15:27
fritzophrenic	she doesn't have sudo privileges so if it's running as me or root she shouldn't be able to kill it, should she?	15:27
edbian	fritzophrenic: The only way to guarantee she can't tamper with it is to filter at the router (if you're emailing the logs why don't you have the script that emails the log first grep the log for her IP). More importantly why do you not trust your own daughter?	15:27
ikonia	DetectiveDongs: then you need to make the apache owner share the same group as nginix	15:27
celthunder	fritzophrenic: physical access= yes	15:27
DetectiveDongs	ok	15:27
escott	himcesjf, depends on if you plan to do this once or on a regular basis. if you want to regularly have the same contents they would likely prefer you setup an rsync mirror and only download the new files, rather than using wget which can't tell what has changed	15:27
charlie_	ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660542/	15:27
celthunder	fritzophrenic: and same with the router..if you have physical access it's pretty hard to log/block people from doing anything	15:28
ikonia	charlie_: there are no repos in that file that contain the kernel you use	15:28
edbian	fritzophrenic: I've read a lot of articles and stuff online about parents monitoring children. It always comes down to. Don't monitor their activites (online or otherwise) it's not fair to them and it doesn't really solve the problem.	15:28
JRWR	on Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS, I would like to strip out (configs also) of all packages there where not in the base install of ubuntu, also to reset all other config files to defaults as well (Its on a VPS)	15:28
escott	fritzophrenic, physical access is (almost) always root access. she could just boot her own livecd	15:28
fritzophrenic	ok, so barring a liveCD...assuming she stays within the installed system, she shouldn't be able to stop a process not owned by her, correct?	15:29
ZwIrc	How to delete a partition? (ramdisk partition)	15:30
escott	fritzophrenic, she shouldn't be able to	15:30
fritzophrenic	as for trust, this is why I don't want to install filtering SW. I just want to be able to check in from time to time. "know what she's doing online" and all that	15:30
escott	ZwIrc, for tmpfs just umount it	15:30
wols	fritzophrenic: use any proxy that logs	15:30
fritzophrenic	ok, so basically my best bet would not be client SW but grepping the router logs. Ugh.	15:31
himcesjf	escott: And to rsync URL will function? . ssh: Could not resolve hostname http: Name or service not known rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [Receiver] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7] I couldn't find anything related on man .	15:31
escott	himcesjf, you would need to check with that server's administrator to see if they have an rsync server that you could connect to, its not usually public the way the www or ftp server is	15:32
fritzophrenic	i might just use browser-history anyway and trust her not to mess with it (both out of ignorance and out of actual trust)	15:33
stwange	escott, grub-install -v shows 0.97 (so grub-legacy), as does grub --version. setup via grub seems to work (and install menu.lst) but it doesn't actually do so: http://pastie.org/private/bpmpz8btzjeasbbjlx3g	15:33
celthunder	fritzophrenic: use a proxy thatlogs where it goes...	15:33
IAmNotThatGuy	side	15:33
celthunder	fritzophrenic: should be pretty easyto do	15:33