[00:00] <pindonga> ajmitch, ah, ok
[00:01] <pindonga> I hope you can still manage to get 1.0 and 0.6 of django-configglue in, but if not, I understand
[00:01] <pindonga> if there is anything I can do to help , please let me know
[00:01] <ajmitch> I'll do what I can, there's still a couple of days before I have to beg the release team for exceptions :)
[00:02] <pindonga> ajmitch, I know you'll do your best and I am grateful
[00:02] <pindonga> I'll check again in a couple of days (wed the latest)
[00:02] <pindonga> thx
[01:41] <micahg> \o/ vala-0.14 is almost bootstrapped on powerpc which will fix a number of universe depwait/FTBFS issues
[09:47] <tonymc> hi all
[09:47] <tonymc> how do i go about packaging headers? i don't need to compile them or anything, just headers
[10:00] <mok0> Why does python-stdeb insist on installing python2.6?
[10:03] <Laney> highvoltage: good post, but I think the technical contributions bit could be a bit misleading
[10:03] <Laney> the DMB only deals with people doing Ubuntu Development, not these upstreamy folk (wherever they may end up)
[10:05] <tonymc> how do i go about packaging headers? i don't need to compile them or anything, just headers
[21:19] <tonymc> is there a way to compile x86 packages on an x64 system?
[21:23] <dupondje> tonymc: ofc
[21:23] <dupondje> pbuilder-dist has arch argument for example
[21:23] <tonymc> what about debuild?
[21:24] <tonymc> pbuilder is too heavy...
[21:24] <dupondje> pbuilder heavy ?
[21:24] <dupondje> not really :)
[21:25] <tonymc> well it downloads minimal system
[21:25] <tonymc> i wouldn't want that
[21:25] <dupondje> guess its not possible then
[21:26] <dupondje> cause you'll always need a minimal system to build packages
[21:26] <tonymc> well debuild doesn't need that
[21:26] <tonymc> i know it's not a clean method to build stuff
[21:26] <tonymc> but my program isn't that complicated and there are no complex dependencies or anything
[21:32] <jtaylor> it is possible but it can be a lot of work
[21:32] <jtaylor> on oneiric it should be easier due to more multi arch packages
[21:33] <jtaylor> install gcc-multilib and all 32 bit dependencies and pass -m32 to the build should do it
[21:56] <tonymc> OK then, how do i build with pbuilder? i've found something on google, "linux32 pbuilder -ai386" but it doesn't seem to work - package still builds as x64
[21:58] <jtaylor> setup a 32 bit chroot
[21:58] <jtaylor> pbuilder --create --architecture i386
[21:58] <micahg_> or use pbuilder-dist
[22:03] <tonymc> can i somehow install a local package onto that chrooted environment?
[22:04] <jtaylor> pbuilder --architecture i386 --login --saver-after-login
[22:04] <jtaylor> then do what you want to do in the chroot and logout
[22:04] <jtaylor> the changes will remain
[22:05] <jtaylor> there is also --extra-packages you can use
[22:05] <jtaylor> for packages in the repo
[22:06] <tonymc> wow
[22:06] <tonymc> thanks
[22:09] <tonymc> looks like everything's working now
[22:09] <tonymc> many thanks, you've been really helpful
[22:10] <jtaylor> also have a look at pbuilder-dist, it makes a few pbuilder operations a bit simpler
[22:10] <jtaylor> lots of info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Building_32-bit_packages_on_64-bit_or_for_older_Ubuntu_versions
[22:11] <tonymc> one more noob question
[22:11] <tonymc> where does pbuilder store built packages?
[22:11] <tonymc> i can't seem to find them anywhere
[22:11] <jtaylor>  /var/cache/pbuilder/result
[22:12] <jtaylor> or in --buildresult=...
[22:12] <jtaylor> you can mount directories from your host with --bindmounts=/dir/...
[22:13] <jtaylor> but note if you create files in there they will be root owned
[22:15] <tonymc> if i make /var/cache/pbuild/result writeable by me, i won't have to run it as sudo and thus the packages will be owned by me, right?
[22:15] <tonymc> i mean /var/cache/pduilder
[22:15] <tonymc> or it's not adviceable?
[22:15] <jtaylor> no pbuilder will always need root rights so far I know
[22:16] <tonymc> ah OK
[22:16] <tonymc> i build everything with scripts anyway, another two lines with chown won't matter
[22:16] <tonymc> thank you very much
[22:18] <jtaylor> np
[22:43] <tonymc> pbuilder doesn't download build time dependencies - is it how it's supposed to be?
[22:46] <tonymc> it displays an error in which it says that in order to resolve the situation it needs to remove pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy
[22:46] <tonymc> however when i login i don't see this package
[22:51] <tonymc> ah i got it, sorry
[22:51] <tonymc> needed to enable universe in sources
[23:01] <tonymc> it is aliiive... once again thanks for your help, quite a crash course in packaging i had