Bernhardafter installing ubuntu server 11.4 i get these errors. On reboot the file system /boot is corrupted. When i repair this disk with knoppix cd it says it was uncleanly unmounted. after repair it boots normal. But after a reboot i gives the same error. The error message is Cannot write bytes: pipe error. Basicly it does not unmount /boot correctly. Then i installed Debian to see if it was a02:28
Bernhardsoftware issue. But the i get about a similar error. When Debian shuts down it says something like this: cannot unmount file system failed.  So it seems it is some sort of same issue.. idears ?02:28
ali1234i'm guessing hardware problem or kernel bug, but you need to check dmesg02:53
diplomorning all07:26
brobostigongood morning everyone.07:48
MooDoohello all07:54
brobostigonhello MooDoo07:55
brobostigonmorning popey07:56
brobostigonwill the gingerbread gmail app, pick up email, without sync anabled, but with background data ?08:05
MooDoobrobostigon: not sure i just turn on wifi or 3g and press refresh lol08:06
brobostigonhmm, ok.08:06
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:07
brobostigonmorning bigcalm08:08
brobostigonthank you MooDoo08:08
MooDoono worries08:11
oimonwhat a depressing weekend :(08:15
MooDooorning czajkowski08:23
JamesTaitMorning all! o/08:32
filo1234Hi to all08:38
filo1234I need to enable autologin in GDM, but I need to do it from shell, because I have only an ssh access now...someone knows where is configuration file for to do it?08:41
filo1234In other version I edited /etc/gdm/gdm.conf08:42
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kazadeI don't suppose anyone knows where there's documentation on getting paid-for apps into the software centre?08:45
jpdskazade: http://www.canonical.com/partners/isv08:48
jpdskazade: You probably want: http://www.canonical.com/partners/become-a-partner08:53
ubuntuuk-planet[Paul Mellors] Wordpress + Comments - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/08/wordpress-comments.html09:15
bigcalmJust got an email from my fiancé(e?) saying that she's pre-booked for the evening of our anniversary. I thought this only happened to blokes?09:27
czajkowskibigcalm: you mean it's only blokes who forget the date09:28
kazadethanks jpds09:29
bigcalmczajkowski: aye09:29
jpdskazade: No problem.09:29
czajkowskibigcalm: aww09:29
bigcalmczajkowski: "Perhaps we can do something nice this weekend, outside of Oggcamp time"09:30
dutchiesolution: ask a girl out on her birthday09:31
czajkowskibigcalm: when is your anniversary ?09:31
bigcalm10th Aug09:31
czajkowskidutchie: nooooo09:31
Myrttioh man09:31
* MooDoo is lucky that his wifes birthday is the same day as his :)09:31
czajkowskiMooDoo: hehe09:31
Myrttithis whole discussion is so funny in the light of when my birthday is09:31
bigcalmI wonder if I can get flowers delivered to the hotel09:31
czajkowskidutchie: cant cheat someone out of 2 celebrations09:31
czajkowskiMyrtti: I'm sure you can09:32
bigcalmMyrtti: do we get to sing happy birthday to you at the weekend?09:32
czajkowskibigcalm: aye flowers deliver anytime any place09:32
dutchieczajkowski: heh, it just happened, rather than a conscious choice09:32
Myrttibigcalm: if you insist, I promise to blush and go all red09:33
bigcalmWhich day is it on?09:33
Myrttithe 11111th birthday09:34
czajkowskiso I was mulling over a talk topic - life outside of IRC in a FLOSS community09:34
bigcalmStill not finalised? Oh my09:35
MooDooMyrtti: rubbish we already know it's your 18th, don't deny it :)09:35
czajkowskibigcalm: wondering would people think it's interesting09:35
gord... life outside of irc?09:35
bigcalmIt's a possibility09:36
gordthe thing with the burning hate ball?09:36
czajkowskilife outside of an irc channel :)09:36
gord... sleep?09:36
MooDoolife?  outside?  <shudder>09:36
bigcalmLife outside of an IRC channel for me is the IDE09:36
* bigcalm grumbles and codes09:36
gordczajkowski, would actually be an interesting topic :)09:36
czajkowskigord: are you coming to oggcamp09:37
MooDoobigcalm: sounds like a file...."Grumbles and Codes" :)09:37
gordczajkowski, nope, was thinking about it but after working all evenings last week and this week and all weekend last weekend to get things in for feature freeze on thursday.. i need a rest on the weekend09:37
gordor i could just collapse in to a ball, whatever09:38
czajkowskino jammy dodgers for you09:38
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MooDoomorning davmor210:05
* czajkowski stabs davmor2 10:06
MooDoobit harsh eh c\10:06
davmor2morning MooDoo and everyone else and czajkowski10:06
davmor2c\ the new cz<tab>10:06
davmor2gives czajkowski a hug sounds like she needs to feel the love :D10:07
MooDoodavmor2: she's just stebbed you, you could at least steal her biscuits10:07
davmor2MooDoo: no cause then she'll feel the stabbing was justified this way czajkowski just feels guilty :D10:08
czajkowskiI have no guilt when it  comes to you10:09
MooDoodavmor2: yeah like that's going to happen...10:09
MooDooczajkowski: i'll hug you as you've not stabbed me today ... YET!10:09
davmor2MooDoo: czajkowski: Hahahahahaha10:09
oimonpopey: visio £500? surely not? what does it do?10:17
popeyfull version is 900 quid10:17
* oimon falls over10:17
oimonthat's obscene10:17
popeyyou should see how much SAP charge for their software10:18
popeyfor the HR module of SAP the license fee is in part (AIUI) based on how much you pay your staff10:18
popeyit's a percentage of your payroll10:18
oimonwrong wrong wrong10:18
MooDooisn't viseo a flow chart type of tool?10:18
oimonit's terrible and so wrong10:18
oimonif the looting in my home town wasn't bad enough, somebody opened my carton of orange juice for the week i had in the office fridge - where were the police eh?10:20
oimonis nothing sacred?10:20
oimonand a dog did a poo on my doorstep last night :(10:20
popeyfriend of mine works for a company where _people_ poo on the doorstep regularly10:20
oimonin east london?10:21
MooDoopopey: microsoft cambridge :)10:21
popeynot quite sure where he is10:21
MartijnVdSWe have people who poo on the walls here in the office10:21
MartijnVdSHe hasn't been caught for >4 years now10:21
MartijnVdS(or she?)10:21
oimondna testing?10:21
* MooDoo is going to beat all of you, i'm getting a device in 4 weeks that will poo EVERYWHERE and at ANY TIME10:22
oimoni thought the netherlands were a civilised place10:22
MooDoos/device/baby :)10:22
MartijnVdSoimon: it tends to be10:22
oimonloads of my local shops got trashed last night :(10:22
oimonMartijnVdS: they put poo on the walls of the toilet or the office?10:25
davmor2MooDoo: You mad fool, I'd of thought by your time of life you'd know what cause them and how to prevent it ;)10:25
MartijnVdSoimon: toilet10:25
MartijnVdSoimon: (stall)10:25
oimonlook for a guy that looks like this: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2006-11-20/10:26
andylockranmorning guys and gals!10:26
MartijnVdS\o andylockran10:27
popeyhowdy howdy howdy10:27
Myrttiare there any lightning talk slots planned for oggcamp?10:28
MartijnVdSLeprechaun giving a lightning talk: http://i.imgur.com/Taqwt.jpg10:31
oimonMartijnVdS: quick video question - i remember speaking to you about deinterlacing..10:35
oimoni ripped and encoded a dvd and made a new dvd, in order to combine 3 short dvds into 1. but the final result was "wobbly",, especailly with horizontal movement of the chracters - did i miss a step? do i need to deinterlace?10:36
MooDoodavmor2: well i did advise her to take a shower ;)10:36
davmor2MooDoo: hahaha10:36
MartijnVdSoimon: I think you need to deinterlace, yes10:46
MartijnVdSoimon: http://www.100fps.com/10:46
oimondidn't think it would be necessary when ripping from a dvd10:48
MartijnVdSoimon: that page explains everything you ever wanted to know about interlacing, deinterlacing methods, how and why10:48
MartijnVdSoimon: depends on how the DVD was mastered (and the video on it encoded)10:48
oimonwhat a pain in teh butt this is :(10:49
MartijnVdSoimon: Read 100fps.com, then with everything you've learned adapt ffmpeg command line :)10:49
gordoh ffmpeg? i just use handbrake, handles all this for you10:49
oimoni did use handbrake10:50
MartijnVdSOK toggle the right switches in handbrake10:50
MartijnVdSsame thing really :)10:50
MartijnVdSyou just have to know what each switch does :)10:50
oimontook me hours...gonna have to do it all again :(10:52
gorddecomb, set to auto, does everything for you :)10:52
davmor2So popey you bought MS office why exactly?10:52
MartijnVdSoimon: tip: set it to do the first 5 minutes only10:52
MartijnVdSoimon: then check if it worked10:52
popeydavmor2: because I need it for work10:52
popeycontrary to what most free software advocates believe, OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are nmot 100% compatible with Microsoft Office.10:53
davmor2popey: so why didn't work provide you with a copy?10:53
MartijnVdSpopey: in which way?10:53
gord:O shocking10:53
popeydavmor2: I _am_ 'work' in this case10:53
* popey is employed by a company he owns10:54
MartijnVdSooh, rich kid eh :P10:54
gordlemonade stands don't bring in much dough10:54
popeywindscreen wash sir?10:54
MartijnVdSgord: LibreOffice doesn't come with WordArt though!10:54
davmor2MartijnVdS: there are a boat load of small things, macro set etc that don't work the same in OO.o/LO10:54
MartijnVdSgord: or Comic Sans10:54
MooDoopopey: well there is your first mistake asking, just wash the windscreen and stick out your hand10:55
popeythats where I have been going wrong10:55
MartijnVdSdavmor2: embedded objects work badly in OOo10:55
gordokay, after half an hour i think i am done with this album that is nothing but different chiptune versions of axel f10:55
MartijnVdSgord: next up: http://www.demoscenetimemachine.com/10:55
davmor2popey: I knew you were, so you're company bought you a copy of MS office then ;)  not you :)  wash your hands of it and move on :)10:56
davmor2popey: so here's the biggy, did you buy the MS version, Mac version, and are you running it on Microsoft of in wine?10:58
popeyI bought the Windows version which I am running under Windows.10:59
popeyon bare metal10:59
davmor2popey: Fair enough, I was going to ask how it ran under wine if that was the case but now I shall not :)11:00
diploAnyone have a Android phone that they don't want in here ?11:00
gordi wonder how nice it would with virtualbox under that cool native mode11:00
gordi'm not curious enough to spend the money on ms office to find out though ;)11:01
davmor2diplo: No! however if you go to the orange shop you can pick up a reasonable pay as you go one called the San Francisco for a £100 if that helps11:07
diploOoh I'll take a look ta davmor211:08
oimongord: what's that decomb thing you mentioned? a separate app or part of handbrake11:09
gordoimon, park of handbrake11:09
MartijnVdSoimon: it's a processing flag in your favourite transcoding app11:09
MartijnVdSgord: parking brake? :P11:09
davmor2diplo: it doesn't have the fastest processor in the world, and you can upgrade it by rooting and using blade upgrades if orange haven't yet for your info11:10
oimongord: ah, found it hidden away11:10
* daubers waits for the microwave to go *ping*11:10
oimondecomb has off, custom, default.11:11
MartijnVdSdaubers: Rig it to go "Awoooga!" next time :)11:11
diploBasically just want to get started, really don't want another contract :/11:12
diploIf i could find a second hand desire / something similar I'd go for it11:12
oimoni love that you can now upload photos to ubuntu one folder from android :)11:12
gorddiplo, the android sdk does have an emulator y'know11:12
diploheh, again something I want to try, but actually want a physical phone.11:15
oimonhandbrake doesn't support ripping to divx anymore :(11:15
diploHad *old* Nokias for a couple of years now11:15
davmor2diplo: http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/san-francisco-from-orange-in-grey11:15
diploJust found one on ebay near end of auction for £2111:15
gordoimon, right, because divx is awful.. just use x264 :) turn off a bunch of options if its too slow11:15
oimoni have a dvd player that plays divx, would save me a lot of time encoding11:16
gordso... you are ripping a dvd to... put on a dvd?11:16
gordto play in your dvd player?11:16
oimonyes, to combine 2 dvds i need to rip+encode then do it again11:16
diploJust keeping an eye on it, nice to have a cheap phone till I have some spare cash to afford a decent one11:16
oimonactually it's 3 short dvds11:17
popeysounds like a lot of work11:19
popeywhy not just carry 3 dvds?11:19
popeyand give your cpu a rest11:19
oimoncos my son likes to watch button moon, but the dvd's are really short, so often nothing else gets watched on the dvd player so best practice to put everything on one dvd. besides the dvds are getting scratched and flung around the room11:20
popeyButton Moon :D11:20
* popey starts singing11:20
* oimon is sick of the tune by now11:21
popeyWe're off to button moon, follow mister spoon.. button moooooon, button moooooooon11:21
oimoni just ordered bagpuss11:21
oimonhe has good 70s taste11:21
MooDoomy son is now in to the wiggles and imagination movers, oh yeah and iron maiden :)11:21
dauberspopey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0o6u1VmGE though I preferred http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9rXx88YsA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7WrEidvyY personally11:22
oimonDM for when he's older11:22
oimonhe's only 1 atm11:22
oimonthere should be a channel dave for kids11:23
daubersoimon: If they start showing sharkey and george, I may have to get a TV licence11:23
diploMooDoo, Iron Maiden \0/ saw them in Cardiff last week11:25
diploFirst time in 19 years!11:25
AlanBellMyrtti: no lightning talks on the schedule yet11:29
oimonsky news live requires silverlight...what? bye then11:29
MyrttiAlanBell: aw. I've been toying with the idea of a short talk, don't have enough to say for a full slot... I doubt I'll have courage to do the presentation anyway, so no harm done11:31
AlanBellyou could propose a lightning talks slot11:36
oimonseen the hitler gnome3 vid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-moXUALZtw&feature=youtu.be11:41
popeyall over G+11:43
oimonlol i keep forgetting to look at g+11:44
AlanBelltired meme11:44
gordG+ is where meme's go to die11:44
oimongoogle don't even bother emailing me about g+ stuff anymore. i'll check it again next week11:44
popeyI never turned off the emails11:45
oimonwow my g+ is pretty bare right now11:49
dogmatic69anybody have recommendations for using loads of terminal windows together? ive always got 10+ open and tabs is ok, but there must be something better11:52
gorddogmatic69, terminator11:52
dogmatic69terminator could do with some tabs too12:02
dutchieit does do tabs12:03
dutchiei think12:03
dogmatic69no context menu12:04
dogmatic69no ctrl + t12:04
dogmatic69why they hide it... :/12:04
dutchiebecause tabs are evil :)12:04
AlanBellso how does terminator compare with byobu?12:04
dutchiedifferent purposes12:05
gordit doesn't :) terminator is a terminal emulator12:05
gordbyobu is a screen thingy12:05
dogmatic69this terminator ~= the normal terminal12:05
AlanBellso would I use byobu in terminator?12:07
* AlanBell installs to find out what this thing is12:08
Laneybyobu is just a bit of a UI for screen12:08
AlanBellyeah, trying to figure out what terminator is12:09
dogmatic69terminator is split screen terminals12:09
dogmatic69you can have 10 in one window12:09
gordbasically if you use one terminal window, gnome-terminal should be fine, for those of us that regularly use multiple terminal windows, terminator is a great fit, its so easy to make/remove terminals :)12:11
ali1234unless you also need those terminals to be slightly bigger than a postage stamp - then it's rubbish12:12
dogmatic69AlanBell: http://oi51.tinypic.com/67uqzs.jpg12:13
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dogmatic69not i just have 3 tabs open with everything <312:28
dogmatic69open one term for each box, group them together. type command once, works on all in the group12:30
AlanBellI am getting lots of emails from Standard & Poor's about their big "downgrading America" thing12:31
AlanBellmust log into the newsletter preferences console I rewrote for them and turn it off12:32
dogmatic69haha, everyone in the office is wanting terminator now12:34
dogmatic69they all on mac's12:34
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oimonTerminator will run on any modern OS with Java 6 or later.12:37
oimonhmm i'm wondering if that's a different app with the same name12:37
andylockranyeah, oimon there are two12:55
MartijnVdSsame with unity13:05
MartijnVdSgoogle for "unity" and you get some 3D framework for mobile phones(?)13:06
MooDoowhat what!13:08
LaneyMooDoo: are you going to rms?13:09
bigcalmMooDoo: In the bu#13:09
MooDooLaney: yes indeedy13:09
Laneygood good13:09
* bigcalm goes to do some soldering for the 1st time in 10+ years13:09
oimonwhat time do peeps think oggcamp sessions will finish on sat? 5pm?13:10
davmor2It's the eye of the tiger it's the thrill of the fight13:31
* MooDoo slaps davmor2 get out the dark ages13:31
czajkowskioimon: about then, and then we head to the pub13:32
czajkowskifor the pub talk session13:32
* davmor2 NO! I enjoy the dark ages where they made music you could sing to :P13:32
oimonor in my case , return home :(13:33
bigcalmIs there a limit to the number of devices that a google account can be used on?13:33
czajkowskidavmor2: old sod13:33
czajkowskioimon: try and stay for an hr if you can13:33
czajkowskibest chatting is done then13:33
oimon:'( son won't let it13:33
oimonhe's quite strict about his bedtime, being 1 and all that13:33
czajkowskiI'm sure you'll have a good day13:33
oimonyeah :)13:34
davmor2czajkowski: you're only a bit younger so watch you're gob, and I think MooDoo and popey are both older than me :P13:34
MooDoodavmor2: i'm 1913:36
MooDoocough cough13:36
* oimon checks MooDoo blog13:37
_serial_is getting on a bit at 2913:37
popeyIt's my 40th next year13:37
popeyI think I may have a party13:37
davmor2MooDoo: for the second time :P13:37
* oimon didn't used to believe older people when they forgot how old they were. now i have to work it own based on my birth year13:37
MooDoodavmor2: pah i'm 40 next year i'll have you know13:37
MooDoopopey: i'm having a party too, i might even pop down to london to have a beer13:38
oimonturning 40 is OK so long as you have managed to father 2 kids, have wife + dog, built a house and written a book13:38
davmor2popey: I'm 38 tomorrow :) as I say czajkowski calling me an old sod doesn't bode well for you pair :D13:39
MooDoooimon: 1 now 1 in 4 weeks, wife yes built a house yes [lego] and written a book yeah right lol13:39
MooDoodavmor2: don't how czajkowski dare, she's 85 next13:39
_serial_suddenly doesn't feel that old on here :) thanks guys13:39
davmor2MooDoo: What flowers do you want at your funeral?13:40
MooDoodavmor2: i'm miles away i'm not scared :)13:40
davmor2MooDoo: czajkowski is living close to Tottenham now don't be surprised by the fire bomb knock at the door latter in the week :D13:41
MooDoodavmor2: it's ok i'll be down there doing my shopping at aldi13:42
davmor2MooDoo: haha13:42
Myrttioh for gods sake13:44
Myrttidoesn't Farnham Maltings have a proper street address ANYWHERE on the site? or have I gone blind13:44
MooDoothere you go13:44
dogmatic69google shows a map as the first result13:45
MooDoothe link i put is the actual adress13:45
oimonMyrtti: are you going?13:45
czajkowskipopey: you really 40 next year, don't look a day over 3513:45
Myrttiadding the even to LinkedIn, oimon yes13:45
dogmatic69the google one is exactly the same13:45
oimonit's a nice venue, my best mate had an art exhibition in there once13:46
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oimonoggcamp team chose well :)13:46
oimonwhat sort of parents allowed their 11 year-old to participate in the rumpus in enfield last night ? :(13:48
oimonprobably the sort that have kids who want to smash things up for fun13:48
jpdsoimon: They were unemployed young adults.13:48
oimonjpds: and those on school holidays13:48
oimoni live in enfield. my friend was moving his van and saw some 11 yr olds on their way to town centre. he spoke to them and tried to discourage them from going but to no avail13:49
jpdsApparently, they looted a McDonalds.13:52
jpdsI mean, seriously.13:52
MooDooobviously hungry13:52
* Myrtti spams popey 13:53
* popey tickles Myrtti 13:53
davmor2MooDoo: no they'd of robbed a really food place if they were hungry13:53
oimonthey smashed a jeweller and got £40k worth of watches13:54
shaunomystery meat, grilled over the remains of a burning bus.  stay classy13:54
Myrttimy brain has been rewired it seems13:55
Myrtti"a jeweller? aw what a shame, all the pretties gone :-<"13:55
oimonseriously hope there's no more trouble tonight13:55
MooDoodavmor2: well i'm down there at the weekend, got my ubuntu hoody ready might as well promote at the same time ;)13:56
oimonis there a uniform for oggcamp? everybody wears their ubuntu gear?13:56
davmor2MooDoo: haha13:56
czajkowskidavmor2: eh no I'm SE1 :)13:56
oimonmight do the corporate thing and wear redhat tshirt :)13:57
AlanBelloimon: clothing optional IIRC13:57
davmor2czajkowski: and your trying to tell me that that isn't closer to tottenham than you were before?13:57
MooDoodavmor2: well i was going to go visit at czajkowski at some point in the new year, don't think i will now ;)13:58
MooDoohey reaper433414:01
Myrttilinkedin.com, why are you being mean14:03
reaper4334I was wondering if anyone could help, I can't boot Ubuntu. Instead I'm given the message "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uid/bec40618-f442/.... does not exist. Dropping to shell!"14:04
reaper4334this seems to have appeared from nowhere, it booten fine yesterday14:04
MooDooreaper4334: does this help? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81309014:06
davmor2Myrtti: why do you think linkedin.com is being mean14:06
MyrttiThis webpage is not available14:07
MyrttiThe connection to www.linkedin.com was interrupted.14:07
Myrttithat's why :-(14:08
davmor2Myrtti: :(14:08
oimonnot sure of the point of linkedin yet.. seems to just exist as a voluntary data mine for recruiters?14:09
reaper4334MooDoo: I'll have a read of that, thanks14:09
MooDooreaper4334: yw!14:10
oimonblackberry have sent some sort of apology via twitter for the distrubances. that's a bit like the brickmakers having to apologise for their bricks being used to throw at the police14:12
MooDoooimon: marketing.....got to be14:19
oimonMooDoo: yeah, i guess they feel compelled to14:27
Mezdavmor2: ping14:32
davmor2Mez: just saw on the list nice :)14:32
Mezdavmor2: was going to ask you to forward onto Wolves XD14:33
davmor2Mez: Done14:34
MooDooooo rms in birmingham too :)14:35
MezMooDoo: Nottingham, Birmingham, Edinburgh, I believe.14:35
MooDooMez: yup i'm at the nottingham one14:36
davmor2MooDoo: anyone would think you lived there or something :)14:38
MooDoodavmor2: i certainly do mate.....but not telling you where abouts :p14:43
davmor2MooDoo: I don't need to know the poll will soon tell me muhahahahahahahahahaha14:44
MooDoodavmor2: poll?14:44
davmor2MooDoo: the thing the council keep in order to tax you :)14:45
MooDoodavmor2: pah stupid councils14:46
Myrttilinkedin.com gggggRRRRRRRGGGRRRRRRR14:49
oimonworks for me :P14:50
MyrttiI'm sure it does14:50
davmor2Myrtti: sorry wfm too it just hates you14:52
oimon"Overlapping Twitter reports of shops being closed in #Edmontonand other areas of north London" :(15:00
oimonmy train route goes thru tottenham and edmonton ...hope the trains are still going unlike yesterday15:01
reaper4334MooDoo: Fixed the boot issue, thanks a lot :)15:15
MooDoobrill :)15:18
daubersWoot! Local mirror downloading15:41
dogmatic69what was the drop-in replacement for sendmail15:58
bigcalmexim is one16:02
dogmatic69i think it was postfix16:03
dogmatic69will try it and see16:03
dogmatic69what does uptime mean with 100 days(!)16:03
dogmatic69(!) <--- o.o16:04
bigcalmNot seen that before16:06
bigcalmBut it might mean that it's been so long, there is bound to be a kernel update you should have rebooted for16:06
dogmatic69logged into 4 servers, in htop only one says (!) after the days16:06
dogmatic69it is the longest of the 416:07
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dogmatic69just thought of a new game16:10
dogmatic69wait till friday afternoon, get a copy of terminator, open a terminal for each server, using broadcast -> all do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'16:11
dogmatic69should be fun :)16:11
JimmyEatFoodhi guys i've just installed Natty using wubi and I've decided I no longer want to use Windows16:20
JimmyEatFoodis it possible to remove windows from my system at this point? Or will I need to reinstall Ubuntu using a live cd/usb?16:21
MooDooi would do a total reinstall so it's native to the drive, will be quicker as well imho16:21
JimmyEatFoodOk cheers, will that mean I will need to reconfigure everything when reinstalled? Or is it possible to do a back up of some sort? It took me a couple of hours to get my wireless adapter working and I don't want to have to do it again lol16:22
marxjohnsonJimmyEatFood: There's a question on http://wubi.sourceforge.net/faq.php about moving the install to a dedicated partition16:23
marxjohnsonso you might be able to avoid reinstalling16:23
* MooDoo wasn't aware of that, thanks :)16:24
marxjohnsonlinks through to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43859116:24
JimmyEatFoodthanks :)16:25
JimmyEatFoodcheers for your help16:27
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AlanBellLondon is looking a bit broken at the moment :(18:11
nixtuxyeah :( ,dont think it will stop soon also18:13
MichealHLondon is broken? :P18:16
MichealHHow will we ever survive lol18:16
Azelphurloving how all the riots in London are right on top of where I used to live, and that we moved away from there because the area was going downhill :D18:52
Azelphursmart move was smart.18:52
davmor2Azelphur: so now you're lowering the tone of where you moved to instead right ;)18:55
MyrttiI see the Cambridgeshire guided busroute is finally opened18:58
czajkowskiAlanBell: aye19:07
czajkowskiAlanBell: 2 roads either side of us are seemingly being efected.19:08
AlanBellczajkowski: yikes, scary stuff19:21
daubersWhy are large groups of people stupid??19:31
AlanBellthis is terrible19:56
daubersAlanBell: hmm?19:57
AlanBellthe live coverage from Gotham City19:58
* funkyHat happened to be in London on Saturday night. Luckily missed all of the violence though20:00
daubersOh, more rioting?20:04
RammRodYou guys are awesome20:23
RammRodI'm watching London on TV20:23
RammRodkeep it up!20:23
dutchieobvious troll is obvious (popey/alanbell)20:24
AlanBellbacta :(20:26
KrimZonis there anything out there about the shooting of the guy that triggered it all?20:39
popeynot yet20:40
popeyIPCC are awaiting ballistics reports AIUI20:40
daubersAt least the police are doing the sensible thing by keeping it contained and letting it burn itself out20:46
daubersrather than go in on a baton charge and make it worse20:47
ikoniavery concerning20:49
ikoniaI hope non of you London livers are in any risk20:49
dutchiebirminhgham too apparently20:52
ikoniathat appears much more minor20:52
dutchieso far20:53
ikoniayes, I hope that doesn't escalate20:53
ikoniaI'm shocked by it all20:53
ikoniaproves the utter yob/moron gang culture that sits in our country20:53
hamitronin some ways it would be better if the police tackled them, showed them they can't get away with it20:54
ikoniathey are trying to20:54
hamitronbeat the hell out of them20:54
ikoniayou can't take that stance20:54
hamitronI would have if I lived there ;/20:54
daubershamitron: Based on the trigger, that would make it much worse20:55
daubershamitron: Ever read "Night Watch" by Terry Pratchett?20:56
hamitronthat trigger is just an excuse20:56
hamitronthere are lines you don't cross when protesting20:56
hamitronburning peoples homes and not respecting others property is one20:56
daubershamitron: Problem is, if you go in batons raised, you'll make it worse. These kind of things you bottle into an area and let it burn out. You have to show that the police and people on "the other side" are people too, not people behind riot shields coming at you with batons20:57
hamitrondaubers: no20:57
hamitronand look how the soft approach has naught the younger generation of gangs they can do as they please on street corners20:58
hamitronif I lived somewhere, with a riot, I'd expect the police to hit them hard20:59
czajkowskihttp://yfrog.com/h8rzsjmp wow20:59
daubershamitron: Great scene in Night Watch where there are mobs attacking Watch houses through out the city, and the main character avoids it at his watch house by opening the door, lighting the lamps and sitting outside with a mug of coffee20:59
hamitronas much as I love coffee.....21:00
daubershamitron: It's more about stopping people thinking of "Us" and "them" and of thinking of everyone as a person with a family/dependants and what not21:01
hamitronwell, I still think the fear of something happening would make a lot go home21:01
hamitronbut tbh, our police force isn't built for that21:02
daubershamitron: Fear is a rubbish way to press a point :( It's what causes these things to start with21:02
hamitronI don't agree21:02
hamitronpeople loot because they think they can21:02
* daubers has always believed that violence incites violence21:03
hamitronI hope some of the rioters die21:03
dutchieneeds to be soft but firm21:03
Myrttier... right21:04
dutchiethat didn't come out quite as clearly as i intedede :)21:04
Seeker`they should all be shot :P21:04
hamitronSeeker`: only with rubber bullets, I'd agree..... but imagine the paperwork :-o21:05
Myrttiwhat mushrooms have you people eaten21:05
daubersbah, carrying a weapon is an invitation to be attacked21:05
Seeker`I've got a friend who is a police officer, was in Tottenham on saturday night21:05
Myrttisuddenly the comments went all weird21:05
Seeker`took a couple of bricks to the face / head21:06
Seeker`I have precisely no sympathy for a group of chavs who are taking an opportunity to go and nick stuff21:06
Myrttior then this is a sign for me to go to bed as it's past midnight here and past 22 there21:06
hamitronnn Myrtti21:07
hamitronall i can think of is coffee now21:09
hamitronty daubers21:09
Catbuskrisi am not getting a lot in info on the following point: is it (black british) cultural specific, or is it just nasty people doing what they do best?21:11
Seeker`Catbuskris: it is a load of young (say, under 25) people taking an opportunity to grab new TVs and sports clothes21:11
Catbuskrisi mean the BBC were specifically interviewing the head of the _black_ british police association, but they only asked him if this was an economically motivated riot, not racially21:11
Seeker`under the banner of being concerned about the police actions of the past few days21:12
Seeker`the original shooting which "triggered" it was under operation trident I believe21:12
Catbuskrisi'm under 25: why aren't they a bit more like me?  honest question: i'm very sheltered i guess21:12
Seeker`and operation trident was set up to investigate gun crime in London's black community21:12
Seeker`The areas of london that it is occuring in are quite poor21:13
Catbuskrisi don't see it as legitimately racially motivated if the black dude in question shot a copper first...21:13
Seeker`well, thats the question21:14
Seeker`we don't know what happened yet21:14
Seeker`Closest we have is a rumour that the bullet found in the police radio was a hollowpoint, which is the same type of round that the police use21:15
Seeker`but that isn't confirmed, and even if it is, doesn't mean that it came from a police gun21:16
AlanBellthe current stuff is crime motivated, hardly any of them will have any idea why it started21:19
hamitronyep :/21:19
Catbuskrisguys i'm a simple man, please: what are the implications of this bullet being a hollowpoint@21:22
Catbuskrisare you implying the guy the polic shot was a policeman???21:22
popeyits rumour and speculation21:23
popeyneither is healthy21:23
popey(in this instance)21:24
Seeker`Catbuskris: the papers are trying to imply that it might have been a bullet from the police officer's gun that was embedded in the radio, not from the guy that was shot.21:24
Seeker`But nothing is certain until we see the IPCC report21:24
Catbuskrisoh well jesus, that's serious but very easily verifiable21:25
Catbuskristhey do that shit in CSI: Miami all the time; ballistics, you know?21:25
Catbuskrispresumably the guy had a gun with his prints all over it, and the bullet came therefrom, and the taxi driver/ a zillion other people saw it happen21:25
AlanBelljust as a reminder, can we try and keep the conversation around this up to our usual high standards21:26
* hamitron steps aside so as to not lower it21:26
AlanBellthe CSI stuff actually takes more than half an hour, the show would be a bit dull if they did it real time21:28
AlanBellthe before picture21:29
popeyhttp://houseofreeves.co.uk/ unsurprisingly unresponsive / slow21:30
* daubers heads to bed21:32
daubersNight all21:32
hamitronAlanBell: wonder how long till the google car drives down there for an update21:33
Seeker`wow, that shop isn't half alight21:39
Seeker`I can't quite believe what I'm seeing on the news21:46
hamitronI've put my tv in a box, since it is useless with no channels ;)21:50
hamitronI guess some will say I'm lucky21:50
hamitronbecause it doesn't sound good21:50
Seeker`bbc news online :)21:53
jpdsGuys, there's ##londonriots for a reason.21:53
jpdsMeanwhile: https://yfrog.com/kk1nincj21:54
hamitronSeeker`: got more important things for me personally, like compile a linux distro21:55
hamitronI know that sounds selfish21:55
bigcalmjpds: I quite liked this: http://twitpic.com/633vk421:56
bigcalmWhoops, wrong one21:56
brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.22:03
Seeker`owner of that store talking on BBC now22:49
Laneyapparently in nottingham city centre now22:53
Seeker`wish the BBC news guy would shut up22:54
Seeker`sounds like he is trying to make the store owner depressed22:54
Catbuskristhat's a pretty common feeling i have,23:15
Seeker`"anyone who isn't dressed up as a hoodie as i am is likely to be mugged"23:15
CatbuskrisUnfortunately the BBC is the best I seem to have on the ground, so to speak23:15
Seeker`0045: West Midlands Police confirm that a police station in Holyhead Road in Handsworth, Birmingham, is on fire.23:49

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