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| AlarmSpark | rww:o | 04:56 |
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| rww | oh gods | 04:56 |
| jyo | ? | 04:58 |
| philipballew | he left quick | 04:58 |
| philipballew | well i think it was a he... | 04:58 |
| rww | spillover from #ubuntu-offtopic | 04:59 |
| rww | and yes, it's a guy | 04:59 |
| philipballew | this can be a off topic channel to somewhat | 04:59 |
| jyo | I assume this sort of randomness is par for the course for ops. | 05:00 |
| rww | it's par for the course for the Californian #ubuntu-offtopic users :\ | 05:00 |
| philipballew | crazy people! | 05:05 |
| === bkerensa_ is now known as bkerensa | ||
| === ryaxnb__ is now known as ryaxnb | ||
| iheartubuntu | nhaines is the man im lookin for... | 21:47 |
| iheartubuntu | my neighbor has a computer randomly shutting off and rebooting | 21:48 |
| iheartubuntu | im thinking power supply, but some people on forums across the net say it could be hard drive also | 21:48 |
| iheartubuntu | i was running ubuntu updates on his comp yesterday and the power went off right in the middle | 21:49 |
| iheartubuntu | inside of computer is clean and power supply is clean inside too | 21:49 |
| pleia2 | could be ram | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | ("it's always ram") | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | I'd say it's unlikely to be the harddrive if it boots reliably and you don't see filesystem errors | 21:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i wasnt seeing errors, although he now tells me before i put ubuntu on it 2 years ago it did this same thing but not as frequently as every day | 21:52 |
| iheartubuntu | he said "ubuntu fixed it" up until the past month | 21:52 |
| iheartubuntu | when i put ubuntu on i also put in a good video card and upped the ram from 512 to 3gb | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | my debugging spidey senses tell me they are completely unrelated :) | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | I'd run some memtests, if they come back clean I'd start pulling dimms and do hardware debugging | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | pull out a dimm, do stress tests, etc | 21:54 |
| iheartubuntu | joy, but i guess thats better than taking out the power supply | 21:55 |
| iheartubuntu | i have a 4GB caviar HD laying here at work i was going to swap in | 21:55 |
| iheartubuntu | thanks pleia2 | 21:59 |
| pleia2 | good luck | 22:00 |
| iheartubuntu | philipballew knock knock | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | you broke him! | 22:02 |
| iheartubuntu | i didnt touch the computer though :) i swear it | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | heheh | 22:04 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: it's probably RAM. Also, a 4GB Caviar HD will probably not hold an Ubuntu install. | 22:55 |
| nhaines | pleia: I saw a recommendation for "The Articulate Advocate: New Techniques of Persuasion for Trial Lawyers" (ISBN: 978-0979689505) that covers things like stance, pacing, gestures, and such things about public speaking. | 22:58 |
| iheartubuntu | thanks nhaines i will check it out | 22:58 |
| iheartubuntu | it was brand new memory chips too | 22:58 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: nice | 22:59 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: "brand new" means "untested" | 22:59 |
| iheartubuntu | yes | 22:59 |
| iheartubuntu | and i bought some cheap chips too | 22:59 |
| nhaines | pleia2: I've tried to work on my stance and gestures, but I don't speak enough anymore to perfect. :) | 22:59 |
| nhaines | pleia2: actually, I haven't watched yet (still at work) but http://www.ernietheattorney/ has two links to clips from the author that might be insightful as to whether the book will be useful. | 23:00 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: yeah, until recently I've mostly just focused on communicating clearly and without nervousness | 23:01 |
| pleia2 | ooh, $9.99 as nook book | 23:01 |
| pleia2 | if bn.com didn't suck | 23:01 |
| iheartubuntu | not to kiss butt... you both did great at the SCaLE ubucon | 23:01 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: it only looked that way because we're professionals. In actuality we both sucked, just that only ourselves can see our own failings. :) | 23:02 |
| nhaines | (Also known as: you're your own worst critic.) | 23:02 |
| pleia2 | I did better at fosscon | 23:02 |
| nhaines | pleia2: I bombed the UpScale talk. Spoke too fast. But I think I nailed the Ubucon intros and Q&A. :) | 23:03 |
| nhaines | I'm more confident when I'm adlibbing. Thanks for setting me up for the "Ubuntu is an ancient African word for 'my wifi just works'" joke. | 23:03 |
| pleia2 | the whole UpScale thing was a bit hectic in general | 23:03 |
| akk | Timing is really hard on ignite talks. | 23:04 |
| akk | Especially hard not to go too fast. | 23:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:05 |
| nhaines | akk: I was amazed that even when I started to ramble I still got the timing okay. Teaching day courses must've helped there. | 23:05 |
| nhaines | Luckily, Gareth foobaring my slides got the audience rooting for me. | 23:05 |
| akk | foobaring your slides? | 23:06 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: I love living now, 8 minutes ago you suggested "The Articulate Advocate", I have since read the description read a couple of reviews, bought it and now it's loaded on my nook :) | 23:06 |
| akk | The modern girl! :) | 23:06 |
| nhaines | He autoadvanced through all 20 slides in 3 seconds about 8 seconds into my talk. :) | 23:06 |
| akk | nhaines: eek! That could throw off your timing a bit. :) | 23:06 |
| nhaines | akk: I thanked everyone for their time and bowed, then when it was set up I introduced myself again as before and everyone cheered. | 23:07 |
| akk | I've seen windows people do that in regular (non-ignite) talks -- apparently PPT has a mode you can get into that autoadvances, and it's hard to get out of. | 23:07 |
| nhaines | Apparently Gareth found the afterburner (trying to go backwards caused the slides to flip through to the end--he did it two or three times.) | 23:07 |
| akk | Hope you didn't have any slides that were meant to be a big surprise! | 23:08 |
| nhaines | Just the xkcd comic that was hard to read in 15 seconds. But everything flipped by too fast to read. | 23:09 |
| iheartubuntu | i went to a 2 hour talk last week and the guy was just horrible. it almost felt like he was a used car salesman at his previous job. i couldnt take it anymore and got up and left. | 23:09 |
| iheartubuntu | and both of you sound very natural | 23:09 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: what turned you off to the speaker? | 23:10 |
| iheartubuntu | he never made eye contact for one | 23:10 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: pleia2 will probably concur with me that sounding natural takes lots of practice. :) | 23:10 |
| akk | A car salesman who doesn't make eye contact probably wouldn't do very well either. | 23:10 |
| iheartubuntu | it felt like he had the whole speech memorized and felt like i was invisible ot him | 23:10 |
| iheartubuntu | it made it boring | 23:10 |
| nhaines | pleia2: actually the 15 minute version of my UpScale talk played well at OCLUG. :) | 23:11 |
| akk | I tend to dislike those rehearsed "motivational" speakers. Unless they're really really good. | 23:11 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: oh, right... what was the topic? | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | yeah, teleprompter/memorized talks are much easier, it's much harder to be aware of your audience and look natural | 23:11 |
| iheartubuntu | stocks :) | 23:12 |
| nhaines | You have to know the material inside and out in order to adjust to your audience, for one. | 23:12 |
| iheartubuntu | i had to try and not look at him and just take notes | 23:12 |
| akk | I bet it's extra hard to make a speech on stocks interesting. | 23:12 |
| pleia2 | there was one speaker at an event recently who was just reading from a script | 23:12 |
| pleia2 | he had really good presence, but it was pretty dry, and he was really thrown off his game by questions | 23:13 |
| nhaines | pleia2: that's almost always an instant fail. | 23:13 |
| nhaines | Although, I might do that for a future talk... I'll bet I can make that funny. | 23:13 |
| pleia2 | pretty much the only funny I can pull off is self-deprecating, but it works for me | 23:14 |
| nhaines | (The "script" would be a prop, obviously.) | 23:14 |
| nhaines | pleia2: I like using that, and I also like using very mild jabs at common computing frustrations, that invite the audience to smile along. | 23:15 |
| iheartubuntu | when i was in toastmasters one of the things was to make eye contact in small audiences, much larger ones and you can look at their foreheads and they wont know :) | 23:15 |
| akk | I mostly go with funny pictures (and sometimes the frustrations too). | 23:15 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: ah yes, I've done that from time to time too | 23:15 |
| pleia2 | "who has every used some foss that had poor documentation?" "HAHAHA" | 23:15 |
| nhaines | Yup! The "Add/Remove Programs" one was my favorite... I'm sorry that one's gone. | 23:16 |
| akk | iheartubuntu: I saw a great presentation demonstrating eye contact -- you choose groups of people and make eye contact with the center of the group | 23:16 |
| iheartubuntu | interesting | 23:16 |
| akk | and then everybody in that group thinks you've made eye contact with them, close enough. | 23:17 |
| nhaines | Oh, this one was well-recieved. "If you tell others they should only run Ubuntu and Free Software, but you have a Macbook... Well, that's not going to be very persuasive." (Eat your own dog food!) | 23:17 |
| iheartubuntu | i havent spoken in public for a while now. would be fun to do again. and im sure i can do a lot better than this guy i listened to | 23:17 |
| akk | So you don't have to cover all 300 people, just each 5x5 subset (or whatever, depends on room size). | 23:17 |
| akk | dogfood, yeah ... it used to be so common for speakers on linux to use mac or windows! | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | I made an accidental joke at my last talk, I called the ubuntu bug squad "bug people" | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | *pause* "hehe, bug people" | 23:18 |
| akk | My local LUG got all mad at me when I pointed out that 6 of their last 7 speakers had used windows laptops. | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | there was much laughing | 23:18 |
| akk | But I noticed that most of the next few speakers used linux laptops. :) | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | hehe, nice | 23:18 |
| nhaines | I have an idea for a Linux comedy routine. | 23:19 |
| iheartubuntu | RAID | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | nice, this books starts out with "The Paradox of Naturalness" :) | 23:20 |
| iheartubuntu | whats the routine nhaines | 23:21 |
| akk | Was it Churchill who wouldn't let someone interrupt him on the way to a meeting because "I'm busy preparing my extemporaneous remarks" ? | 23:21 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: I want to do some fun Ubuntu stuff. "I got tired of all the ease of use and handholding. I decided I wanted to go back to basics--the raw, genuine Linux experience with compiling my own code and everything. So I typed 'sudo apt-get install gentoo'..." | 23:25 |
| nhaines | Then I might do a monologue from the "typical" computer user who refuses to learn anything, probably one from the " | 23:26 |
| nhaines | typical" Linux geek who thinks everyone should have to learn everything. | 23:26 |
| nhaines | That sort of thing. Hopefully make fun of everyone in a way that invites people to laugh at themselves. | 23:27 |
| iheartubuntu | im going to attempt to start an Ubuntu Hour in LA union station where a bunch of metro lines, buss lines, metrolink, amtrak, etc all converge | 23:30 |
| iheartubuntu | i need to scout around the best place to do it. there are a couple places with tables and then there is that big hall where people sit and lounge around waiting for a train | 23:31 |
| akk | It would be cool to have an Ubuntu Hour in a place where there were a lot of newbies killing time. | 23:33 |
| akk | Might be able to talk some of them into checking it out. | 23:33 |
| iheartubuntu | hope to make it down to philipballew global jam | 23:37 |
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