| tjaalton | ricotz: thanks, though it's actually less work for me to just merge using git ;) | 08:16 |
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| tjaalton | since it'll already include the changes, it's just the changelog entry that needs mangling | 08:17 |
| tjaalton | and I'd really like to get rid of klingon/latin | 08:18 |
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| ricotz | tjaalton, ok, so no credits for then ;) | 08:41 |
| ricotz | yes, removing some delta could even lead to syncing it | 08:42 |
| Prf_Jakob | Hey people, I know I have asked this before and it isn't entierly the correct forum but does anybody know which kernel version is going into 11.04? | 12:10 |
| Prf_Jakob | Err 12.04.. | 12:11 |
| RAOF | Prf_Jakob: Do you mean 11.10 or 12.04? 11.10 will have 3.0; 12.04 will have... something. Probably 3.2 or 3.3, I'd guess. | 12:13 |
| Prf_Jakob | 12.04* | 12:13 |
| Prf_Jakob | RAOF: ok thanks... | 12:13 |
| Prf_Jakob | 3.3 looks a bit close. | 12:14 |
| tjaalton | ricotz: i can still credit you for poking me ;) | 17:02 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, alright ;) | 17:15 |
| bryceh | morning | 17:20 |
| Sarvatt | heyo bryce! | 17:20 |
| Sarvatt | back already? | 17:21 |
| bryceh | yep | 17:21 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: congrats :) | 17:21 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, thanks! | 17:21 |
| bryceh | coming back to work feels like I'm taking a vacation from paternity leave ;-) | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | "relaxing", wasn't it ; | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | ;) | 17:22 |
| bryceh | it had it's moments! | 17:23 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, tjaalton, so what's new? | 17:30 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: nothing special I guess, oneiric is pretty boring xorg-wise ;) | 17:32 |
| tjaalton | mesa 7.11 final was uploaded though | 17:32 |
| tjaalton | by RAOF | 17:32 |
| bryceh | good | 17:32 |
| tjaalton | oh and bug 820370 probably means that the failsafe conffiles should probably be removed in preinst after all? | 17:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 820370 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Tries and fails to remove /etc/gdm (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820370 | 17:33 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, okay yeah could be | 17:38 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, would you mind making those updates? You know those way better than me | 17:38 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: yeah, I could | 17:38 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, thanks | 17:43 |
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| cnd | bryceh, Sarvatt, RAOF: I'm trolling for a core-dev to upload a new version of utouch-qml, which isn't in the utouch package set yet (so I can't upload it myself) | 19:41 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: I'm not even a MOTU or PPU, think ya meant tjaalton instead of Sarvatt there :P | 19:42 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, oh, sad to hear that... | 19:42 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, I'd be happy to endorse if you are going for it | 19:42 |
| cnd | I didn't bother with tjaalton because I figure he's probably in bed by now :) | 19:43 |
| tjaalton | not in bed, but moving my arse to the couch instead ;) | 19:44 |
| cnd | tjaalton, well, you are welcome to help, but I figure it's outside your work hours so feel free to pass :) | 19:45 |
| cnd | it's not urgent | 19:45 |
| tjaalton | ok, I can have a look in the morning unless bryceh beats me to it | 19:45 |
| cnd | k | 19:47 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: well when I do it'll be for an X package set, nothing else really fits and you haven't sponsored anything for me there :P by then you might though and I'll look you up, appreciate that! | 19:47 |
| cnd | tjaalton, it's in lp:utouch-qml/ubuntu | 19:47 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, I guess I was assuming you've sponsored stuff for me | 19:48 |
| cnd | which doesn't make sense in hindsight :) | 19:48 |
| cnd | it seems like you've helped me out somehwere though, I just can't remember | 19:48 |
| cnd | but maybe I'm just mixing things up | 19:49 |
| bryceh | cnd, done | 20:48 |
| cnd | bryceh, awesome1 | 20:48 |
| cnd | ! | 20:48 |
| cnd | thanks | 20:48 |
| cnd | bryceh, are you still on leave? | 20:48 |
| cnd | I feel bad pinging you if you are still on leave | 20:49 |
| bryceh | nope, today's first day back | 20:49 |
| cnd | ok | 20:49 |
| cnd | I hope things are going well | 20:49 |
| cnd | and congrats if I haven't said so yet :) | 20:49 |
| bryceh | cnd, oh thanks! | 20:49 |
| bryceh | cnd, was a good exercise to figure out why my oneiric pbuilder wasn't working | 20:51 |
| cnd | bryceh, you have an oneiric pbuilder! | 20:51 |
| cnd | ? | 20:51 |
| cnd | I can't figure out how to create one | 20:51 |
| bryceh | yep, I have pbuilders for all releases | 20:52 |
| cnd | every time I try I hit a bug (I think it's a bug in debootstrap) | 20:52 |
| tjaalton | bug 805886 | 20:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805886 in util-linux (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "/proc does not get umounted after debootstrap (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 54)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805886 | 20:52 |
| cnd | tjaalton, yep, that's the one | 20:52 |
| tjaalton | pretty annoying | 20:52 |
| cnd | tjaalton, is there a workaround? | 20:52 |
| cnd | or bryceh, how did you build one? | 20:52 |
| tjaalton | cnd: dunno, haven't looked at it closer | 20:53 |
| tjaalton | yet | 20:53 |
| bryceh | hmm, built it when oneiric first opened | 20:53 |
| cnd | I currently rely on building locally and checking if the daily build recipe succeeds | 20:53 |
| tjaalton | cnd: well, downgrade util-linux should be enough | 20:53 |
| bryceh | I recall having to do `pbuilder login --save-after-login` and fiddle around a bit to get it working | 20:54 |
| cnd | tjaalton, I believe I tried that | 20:54 |
| cnd | and it still failed | 20:54 |
| tjaalton | ok | 20:54 |
| bryceh | cnd, that bug # doesn't look familiar, maybe I'm just lucky | 20:57 |
| bryceh | or maybe having built the pbuilder early on I don't have the bugged mount | 20:58 |
| cnd | maybe | 21:00 |
| cnd | bryceh, I nominate that you fix it | 21:00 |
| cnd | that's how open source works right? | 21:00 |
| cnd | :) | 21:00 |
| * cnd holds the open source bug fix nomination wand tightly | 21:01 | |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: so ya decided to ship st/gbm in 7.11 instead of --disable-gallium-gbm? | 21:04 |
| Sarvatt | all the pipe drivers | 21:04 |
| bryceh | cnd, I'll delegate to the X canonical person able to reproduce the bug | 21:05 |
| cnd | rats | 21:06 |
| bryceh | O:-) | 21:06 |
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| bryceh | cnd, but anyway is it fixable if you log into the pbuilder chroot with the cmd I mentioned above? | 21:06 |
| cnd | bryceh, I can't build a pbuilder chroot in the first place | 21:07 |
| cnd | so I can't get to that point | 21:07 |
| cnd | unless there's some command that says "don't delete on error" | 21:07 |
| bryceh | ahh | 21:07 |
| bryceh | ok so then definitely I escaped it by building my pbuilder before all this came about | 21:08 |
| cnd | ok | 21:08 |
| bryceh | most workarounds I can think of at the moment are probably too much trouble to do | 21:09 |
| bryceh | like creating a natty pbuilder and then upgrading it | 21:09 |
| bryceh | cnd, are you creating your pbuilder on a oneiric host or natty? | 21:10 |
| cnd | oneiric | 21:10 |
| bryceh | I'm doing it on a natty host; perhaps it's the host version of mount that matters? | 21:10 |
| cnd | I don't know how to create it correctly on a different host | 21:10 |
| cnd | I've tried, but it seems to get hosed somewhere | 21:10 |
| cnd | if you know how to do it, please do tell :) | 21:10 |
| bryceh | cnd, did you try the workaroudn of downgrading util-linux? | 21:10 |
| cnd | then maybe I can copy it to my oneiric host | 21:10 |
| cnd | I did, but it didn't help | 21:10 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Welcome back! | 21:47 |
| bryceh | RAOF, hey thanks! | 21:47 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Yeah, might as well ship st/gbm; EGL isn't (or won't be) on the CD, so the extra space is meh. | 21:47 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Oooh, before I upload a new wayland/mesa - was there some reason that you restricted wayland to i386, amd64, armel? I don't know of any reason why it wouldn't be useful on any arch (even debian/hurd!). | 21:51 |
| bryceh | RAOF, it was taking forever to build on ppc, so I dropped all archs except the ones I specifically thought it would be valid for | 21:52 |
| bryceh | no reason aside from that. Feel free to restore the missing archs if you think there's value to having them | 21:53 |
| RAOF | Heh. Well, it makes mesa packaging slightly less annoying, as I won't have to special-case wayland support for !i386 !amd64 !armel. | 21:54 |
| ricotz | RAOF, hello, it seems the dependency of libegl1-mesa on libwayland0 is too strict | 22:15 |
| RAOF | ricotz: No, it's deliberately that strict. | 22:16 |
| RAOF | Because there's not yet any API or ABI guarantees on libwayland, we're being cautious. | 22:16 |
| ricotz | RAOF, oh, ok | 22:16 |
| RAOF | Wait for mesa_7.11-0ubuntu2 to build and then everything will be installable again. | 22:17 |
| ricotz | i see, making a better snapshot version would help | 22:18 |
| ricotz | RAOF, yeah, i am using the edgers versions | 22:18 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, might be useful to loosen this dep a bit for the ppa | 22:19 |
| RAOF | The dependency information is in the libwayland package; it's not trivial for -edgers to relax that. | 22:21 |
| RAOF | Having said that, I also don't expect there to be lots of wayland updates. | 22:21 |
| ricotz | hmm, bad timing then ;) | 22:22 |
| ricotz | the current edgers build depends on ubuntu2 now | 22:22 |
| RAOF | Yeah. It just needs a rebuild. | 22:24 |
| RAOF | Or, I guess, you could not install EGL support :) | 22:28 |
| ricotz | RAOF, this might be a bit difficult -- libcairo2 ;) | 22:31 |
| RAOF | Oh, yeah. | 22:31 |
| RAOF | That'll go away at some point. | 22:32 |
| ricotz | i hope so, seems the cairo-gl backend make a lot problems | 22:33 |
| bryceh | yep | 22:34 |
| RAOF | Thinking of which - the next thing to do with wayland is upload a new wayland-demos package, right? Would you like me to do that? | 22:36 |
| bryceh | RAOF, is libwayland in main yet? | 22:38 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Yup. I got that squared away last week. Mesa now builds the wayland-egl backend. | 22:39 |
| bryceh | RAOF, excellent. I've actually got the wayland-demos package ready to go, I'll take care of uploading it | 22:39 |
| bryceh | RAOF, did you have anything to add to the package beyond syncing from debian? | 22:43 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Which package? wayland-demos? | 22:43 |
| bryceh | RAOF, yep | 22:44 |
| RAOF | Oh, I hadn't really looked at it :) | 22:44 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: whats up? just need a mesa no change rebuild or need me to relax dependencies in mesa? | 23:20 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: New libwayland means mesa needs a rebuild. | 23:23 |
| Sarvatt | gotcha, doing now | 23:23 |
| RAOF | And, in general, each wayland upload will requrie a rebuild of mesa. | 23:26 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, ok, thanks, the natty wayland package is fine since there were no ppa relevant changes | 23:28 |
| Sarvatt | thanks for the heads up, i'll keep an eye on wayland uploads then. haven't been following it to be honest | 23:29 |
| * Sarvatt installs so he notices the brokenness :) | 23:29 | |
| RAOF | Well, you're guaranteed to notice the brokenness now that mesa actually uses it ;) | 23:30 |
| bryceh | should we consider including wayland snapshots in edgers? | 23:39 |
| bryceh | or would that be more trouble than worth at this point | 23:39 |
| Sarvatt | i'm overwhelmed with the other updates in there to be honest, with ivybridge so close I'm not sure thats going to change anytime soon | 23:48 |
| * Sarvatt got 4 new machines to work on in the past week | 23:50 | |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Speaking of ivybridge, what was the problem with 2.15.901 you were having? Everything seems to be peachy here, although I should probably install gdm to actually see if the bgnone thing is working properly; lightdm still doesn't seem to do it. | 23:55 |
| Sarvatt | 101_copy_fb.patch needs fixing to apply to it? | 23:55 |
| Sarvatt | ya disable it to build or were you using edgers? | 23:56 |
| RAOF | I refreshed it :) | 23:56 |
| Sarvatt | woohoo! | 23:56 |
| Sarvatt | that was it | 23:56 |
| RAOF | It didn't require anything particularly special, but perhaps that's because I know what it does :) | 23:56 |
| * Sarvatt owes RAOF a beer if he can drag him away from the board games | 23:56 | |
| Sarvatt | :P | 23:56 |
| RAOF | Actually, now that I look at it again I can simplify it a bunch. It looks like intel_batch_submit no longer references the screen pixmap, which was what the intel_batch_buffer_submit_internal thing was about. | 23:58 |
| RAOF | Or, alternatively, I guess uxa could be setting the screen pixmap earlier. Investimagation time! | 23:59 |
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