falktx | hi there | 08:54 |
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scott-work | morning | 11:55 |
astraljava | o/ | 12:35 |
scott-work | after our conversation yesterday i am feeling energized again | 12:38 |
scott-work | astraljava: ^^^ | 12:38 |
astraljava | YES!! Mission accomplished. I can go slack off again. | 12:38 |
scott-work | lol :) | 12:39 |
astraljava | Hehe. :) Seriously, it was really good for me to host the meeting. I seem to have gotten more excited as well. | 12:39 |
scott-work | good :) | 12:39 |
scott-work | that coincides with my question about hosting the meeting and an potential increase of involvement | 12:40 |
astraljava | Also, in a week, I'll be having a 100/10 line at home, so I get to really devel and test, I mean, seriously, so I'm getting pumped up right now. | 12:40 |
scott-work | i believe that many people are hesitant to speak in meetings because they don't feel honestly involved or part of the project | 12:41 |
astraljava | Yeah. It's just the thing of getting your hands dirty, you get to the feel of things. | 12:41 |
* astraljava is all about things today, it seems | 12:41 | |
scott-work | once they lead the meeting some of the mysteriousness or unfamiliarity dissapates and people seem to be more willing to be active | 12:41 |
astraljava | Right, exactly. | 12:41 |
* scott-work wonders if that will translate to project lead as well | 12:42 | |
astraljava | holstein: Do you recall seeing the minutes of the meeting you hosted in July? | 12:42 |
astraljava | scott-work: I would assume as much. After all, we're not seeing really long-term leaders in teams of ubuntu-land. It's an exhaustive position, and will need fresh blood every once in a while. | 12:43 |
astraljava | The rotation should utilize for that nicely. | 12:43 |
astraljava | utilize that* ? | 12:43 |
astraljava | or not utilize at all, maybe something else. | 12:44 |
astraljava | But you get the point. | 12:44 |
* astraljava wishes he knew more English | 12:44 | |
abogani | 8.9-lowlatency kernel is available. | 12:56 |
abogani | I meant 8.10 | 12:56 |
scott-work | astraljava: many people in this channel are not native english speakers, however i have not found many occurrances for which i could not undestand them | 13:08 |
scott-work | i have pointed out several times that i have found many English Second Language (ESL) speakers to speak better than many native English speakers | 13:09 |
scott-work | this is a position for which i speak honestly | 13:09 |
scott-work | ah, alessio is gone before i could thank him | 13:10 |
scott-work | ah, abogani , good afternoon to you my friend! | 13:30 |
abogani | scott-work: good afternoon to you! :-) | 13:30 |
scott-work | thank you for mentioning the -lowlatency kernel | 13:31 |
scott-work | is this the 3.8.10 kernel? and is it in your git repository? | 13:31 |
abogani | scott-work: Yes! | 13:33 |
scott-work | abogani: in the past have you ever considered if the debian multimedia team would accept your kernels, particularly the -lowlatency kernel? | 13:36 |
scott-work | i wonder if they would or not | 13:37 |
abogani | scott-work: I don't care because kernels are never imported in Ubuntu from Debian directly . | 13:38 |
scott-work | ah, a very astute point | 13:39 |
abogani | scott-work: For same reasons: different patches, different versions, different toolchain and so on... | 13:39 |
scott-work | yes, i should have realized this | 13:39 |
scott-work | abogani: emmett has been unresponsive for the currently packaged kernel in my ppa and therefore i am hesitant to devote time to packaging this one as well :/ | 13:41 |
scott-work | my time has been overly taxed and i am trying to be judicious with it of late | 13:42 |
scott-work | astraljava: i spoke with skaet last night/this morning regarding the A3 image and whether it had been published | 13:43 |
scott-work | i was concerned that i did not speak to her in a timely fashion and the image had been published, apparently i did and it didn't :) | 13:43 |
scott-work | i was quite surprised when she PM'ed me stated she had read the meeting logs and saw my comments regarding this and was concerned if she had done the correct thing | 13:44 |
scott-work | i assured her that she had | 13:44 |
abogani | scott-work: I'm waiting so long that you start to be judicious about your time. If you remember I advise that you a lot of times ;-) | 13:44 |
abogani | I have advised | 13:45 |
scott-work | abogani: yes, yes, my friend, i remember it very clearly :) and i do appreciate your concern, i cannot stress enough my appreciation for you | 13:45 |
holstein | astraljava: july didnt happen | 14:07 |
holstein | i sent out the email late though | 14:07 |
* abogani is wondering if UStudio has received requests about -rt kernel. | 14:19 | |
astraljava | scott-work: Wow! Damn. She's hard-core, _so_ dedicated! :) | 14:43 |
astraljava | holstein: Okay, I'm just wondering where I can find the meeting minutes as the site where they should have them has last been updated at the end of June. | 14:44 |
holstein | right.. we didnt have a meeting | 14:44 |
holstein | i mean, no one came, so i didnt start it | 14:45 |
holstein | i didnt do a stub about it... | 14:45 |
astraljava | Okay cool, no worries, I was just informed the minutes are there, but the web interface doesn't update. | 14:50 |
astraljava | So I gotta ask for them. | 14:50 |
holstein | yeah? | 14:50 |
holstein | i didnt start the bot, and i didnt grab anything from #ubuntu-meeting | 14:51 |
holstein | i think i said 'the meeting is postponed' | 14:51 |
holstein | we could grab that | 14:51 |
astraljava | Right on. :) | 14:51 |
astraljava | No, I don't mean from the July meeting. :D | 14:51 |
astraljava | Just from yesterday. :D | 14:51 |
holstein | AH... :) | 14:52 |
holstein | i see | 14:52 |
astraljava | Hehe, that would hilarious. See meeting minutes here: "Meeting postponed". Cheers! | 14:54 |
holstein | lol | 15:01 |
scott-work | but there was a meeting the holstein chaired for which he did use the bot if you are interested in those as well, astraljava | 15:05 |
scott-work | astraljava: but i do also realize that you are looking for the minutes from the meeting yesterday as well | 15:05 |
holstein | astraljava: i can put the channel output in a pastebin if you need... | 15:06 |
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scott-work | ailo: astraljava: holstein: i feel that our conversations yesterday were powerful, would it be possible to set a time we can get together as discuss plans for the remainder of this release? | 16:07 |
holstein | sure | 16:07 |
scott-work | and possible discuss the direction of oneiric+1 | 16:07 |
holstein | how about loosely a daily thing? | 16:07 |
holstein | just hang when/if we are around? | 16:07 |
scott-work | i would prefer something more organized originally, just to set a loose frame work of what we can reasonably accomplish and agree upon it as a group | 16:08 |
holstein | ubuntu 12.04 codename practially panther ;) | 16:08 |
scott-work | then i think loose, daily discussion are good :) | 16:08 |
scott-work | holstein: i like your other one better | 16:08 |
holstein | hehe | 16:08 |
astraljava | scott-work: Definitely. We would need a lot of workshop sessions to get everything going. It's too seldom that enough people are here otherwise at the sametime. | 16:09 |
astraljava | same time, even | 16:09 |
scott-work | i don't think it needs to be a formalized meeting for everyone to attend | 16:11 |
scott-work | just the four of us because we are the most active and will be doing the actual work | 16:12 |
scott-work | it could be an ad hoc, pickup meeting if we happend to be here at the same time | 16:12 |
scott-work | or we could agree on a time and do it | 16:12 |
astraljava | That's the thing, we will hardly ever be here at the same time, unless we agree on a date beforehand. | 16:13 |
astraljava | But outside of that, we can drop all formalities. | 16:13 |
scott-work | maybe we might shoot for three out of the four then and give the fourth notes of the discussion for which he can comment | 16:17 |
scott-work | i am very frustrated with the lack of progress and am very motivated to over come obstacles and make progress | 16:18 |
astraljava | Exactly. Hell, even 2 would be great. Most days, it's someone shooting some ideas on the channel, and 8 hours later someone +1's. | 16:22 |
scott-work | then perhaps we should define a framework to discuss these things on IRC over time | 17:10 |
scott-work | maybe we should all mention the top five tasks we feel is imortant to finish this cycle's development, wait a day, comapre the list, decide which ones to attack, prioritize them, and assign responsibility | 17:11 |
astraljava | My timeframe would be around 1500 UTC to 2200 UTC, and the things I'd like to be worked on are (in no particular order): 1. lowlatency kernel, 2. package selection (includes everything from seeds to workflow description), 3. user-friendly documentation, 4. contributior-friendly documentation, 5. continuity of the project | 20:00 |
ailo | I'm close to a computer usually between 06.00-20.00 UTC | 21:47 |
ailo | The rest of the time I might be sleeping | 21:48 |
astraljava | Ahh... yeah, on a normal week, my comp.time is usually from around 0500 UTC to that 2200 to 2300 UTC, but this week, I played it safe and gave it a reduced schedule, as we're... you know, busy with two releases due Friday. :D | 22:32 |
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