[00:08] <ionite> hi
[00:08] <ionite> may i ask: i am using KDE and i'm running a net book on batteries.  how can make display the battery life left?
[00:09] <ionite> is there like a battery life indicator?
[00:14] <gomiboy> ionite: first right click on desktop -> unlock widgets then right click on panel (or desktop) and "add widget" -> search for battery indicator
[00:25] <ionite> gomiboy: thanks! how do i install chinese language?
[00:31] <gomiboy> ionite: open System settings -> locale -> System Languages and add what you want
[01:21] <tzahi> hello all. I have a question I hope some one can give me directions on this matter
[01:24] <tzahi> no one there? please
[01:27] <KimLaroux> !ask
[01:27] <tzahi> ok
[01:27] <tzahi> I am new here
[01:29] <tzahi> I wanted to know what is the process to become a contibutor to software which GPL
[01:29] <tzahi> I am student
[01:29] <tzahi> I also learn quickly
[01:30] <tzahi> and have fairly good programming skills
[01:30] <tzahi> and theory basis as well as ability
[01:31] <tzahi> and entusiasm to contribute on this important issue
[01:34] <tzahi> LIST
[01:39] <alex__> HI guys, I have a problem here with network manager in kubuntu 11.04 with kde 4.7 ....few hours ago, I did an upgrade , and now after a restart, my network manager , doesn't works anymore
[01:39] <alex__> how should I try to fix it ?
[01:45] <alex__> I get an error on the WLAN saying "Error:Invalid State"
[01:50] <Daixso> Hey guys
[01:50] <Daixso> n gals :D
[01:54] <corinth> How do I increase my touchpad sensitivity in Kubuntu?
[01:57] <Boomboy> corinth: system settings ->hardware -> input devices
[02:01] <alex__> so no solutions for my network-manager problem  ?
[02:02] <Boomboy> alex__: What seems to be the issue?
[02:07] <corinth> Boomboy: Which setting do I tweak?
[02:07] <corinth> I don't see "sensitivity."
[02:08] <Boomboy> cursor motion?
[02:08] <corinth> I don't see a cursor motion option.
[02:09] <Boomboy> what do you see once you click on input devices?
[02:09] <corinth> Nevermind, I found it. Thanks!
[02:10] <Boomboy> np
[02:39] <alex__> after an upgrade few hours ago , i cannot connect anymore my wireless ....., network manager again ....., the worst thing that can happen to
[02:40] <alex__> leave you without internet , which means , without support ....
[02:41] <alex__> and I have no idea about fix it......, the network simply seems disabled ....., to way to make it works ....
[02:41] <alex__> any idea ?
[02:56] <jmichaelx> alex__: there were two rounds of KDE updates todayyyyy from the backports ppa... for me, the network management plasma widget broke after installing the first batch of updates, but was fixed again after installing the second batch
[02:57] <alex__> yeah , but hot connect again my pc with wireless !?!
[02:57] <jmichaelx> alex__: ahhh... are you trying to connect to a home network?
[02:58] <alex__> yeah , but I don't have access to the router now ....
[02:58] <jmichaelx> alex__: is it that you do not know your key or something?
[02:59] <alex__> yeah I know everything , but network manager just doesn't let me manage wireless .....
[03:00] <alex__> I'm on another pc chatting here ....
[03:00] <jmichaelx> alex__: you could just set up /etc/network/interfaces, and you would not need to depend on the network management widget until it gets fixed on your system
[03:01] <alex__> let's try , but I'll need some help , please .. :)
[03:02] <alex__> so I'm in the file jmichaelx, whqt should I write inside it !?!
[03:04] <jmichaelx> alex__: it should look something like this... but (of course) with your SSIDDDD and your key
[03:04] <jmichaelx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/661605/
[03:04] <jmichaelx> SSID*
[03:05] <alex__> ok , can I just write on the bottom ?
[03:05] <alex__> ahh ok , I got it .., sorry ..
[03:06] <jmichaelx> alex__: you probably can, is there anything at the top besides the section that starts with 'auto lo'?
[03:06] <jmichaelx> ok
[03:07] <alex__> save it , and now !?!, restart network ?
[03:07] <jmichaelx> alex__: you will also need to find out for sure what your systeeeeeeem is calling your network device... if you run 'ifconfig', you will likely see an entry labeled 'wlanX' (could be 0,1,2,3, etc
[03:08] <jmichaelx> alex__: restart network, if you can... you may just need to reboot
[03:08] <alex__> yeah , I check it , is wlan0 like your ...
[03:08] <jmichaelx> ok good
[03:08] <jmichaelx> yes, restart network, or reboot
[03:08] <alex__> ok , so I'll reboot ....
[03:10] <alex__> so now, it should be already connected when I login ?
[03:10] <jmichaelx> alex__: likely so
[03:11] <alex__> is not working .. :(
[03:15] <alex__> there was a mistake , let's try again jmichaelx :)
[03:18] <alex__> no way ....
[03:23] <alex__> I think jmichaelx the problem is the IP , it doesn't seems to be correct ...
[03:24] <alex__> so jmichaelx is possible to set even IP, gateway and DNS !?! in the same way ?
[03:28] <jmichaelx> alex__: definitely
[03:28] <jmichaelx> alex__: had you not been using dhcp?
[03:29] <alex__> yeah I use ...., but the ip of wlan result different of the IP range of my lan
[03:30] <alex__> so of course it doesn't go anywhere I guess ....
[03:30] <jmichaelx> that seems reallyyy strange
[03:31] <alex__> I know ....
[03:32] <alex__> a simple way to share the connection from this pc , by lan !?! could be a solution !?!
[03:32] <jmichaelx> alex__: are you sure that everything was entered correctly? spelling, capitalization, etc?
[03:32] <jmichaelx> alex__: that could possibly be done, but you would likely need a crossover cable
[03:33] <jmichaelx> alex__: can you not temporarily connect your wireless machine via ethernet, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[03:34] <alex__> actualy I cannot rigth now ....
[03:34] <alex__> so I have to wait , until I can connect it directly by lan ...
[03:35] <alex__> thanks a lot anyway jmichaelx
[03:35] <jmichaelx> alex__: if you have everything entered correctly in /etc/network/interfaces , your wireless access point should not give you an IP outside of the normal range it is configured to use
[03:38] <alex__> the only thing is that I have a wep password  , but I even try changin wpa with wep
[03:38] <jmichaelx> alex__: ok, if you are using WEP, things are done differently
[03:38] <alex__> it shouldn't be right ?
[03:38] <jmichaelx> no
[03:38] <alex__> really !?!
[03:39] <alex__> sorry mate , I thought it was unrilevant ......
[03:39] <jmichaelx> alex__: it makeees a big difference
[03:39] <alex__> :)
[03:41] <jmichaelx> instead of 'wpa-ssid', you need to have 'wireless-essid'
[03:41] <jmichaelx> and
[03:41] <jmichaelx> instead of 'wpa-psk', you will need to use 'wireless-key' (i bbelieve)
[03:43] <alex__> ok , so let's try again ....
[03:43] <alex__> I'm crossing my finger mate .. :D
[03:44] <jmichaelx> i hope it works for you
[03:46] <alex__> yeah jmichaelx, it works .... :D
[03:46] <alex__> thank you so much buddy .....
[03:47] <alex__> so now let's upgrade again ...
[03:48] <alex__> jmichaelx: after the upgrade , should I set back the file interfaces ?
[03:53] <jmichaelx> alex__: it is your decision, but if you want to use the network manager, you will need to at least comment those lines out in your interfaces file
[03:54] <alex__> and the comment char is # or something else ?
[03:54] <jmichaelx> yes, # works fine
[03:58] <AlexZion> jmichaelx: I'm alex__ on the other pc ....., after upgrade , averything nice and smooth as always .....
[03:59] <jmichaelx> yay!!!!
[03:59] <AlexZion> thanks again for your support .... , and to share with me your good knowledge .....
[04:00] <jmichaelx> i was a bit aggravated myself this morning, finding that the network widget was broken after the updates... at least glad they fixed it promptly
[04:00] <jmichaelx> AlexZion: no problem at all
[04:01]  * Linkmaster hasn't had any problems with updates, so he has been wary TO update
[04:01] <AlexZion> yeah , I really hate when something happen to the network , because cut you off from support , updgrade and so on .....
[04:01] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: your wariness is compeletely understood
[04:01] <jmichaelx> AlexZion: i agree
[04:01] <Linkmaster> Based on all these issues, I'm like "o.O?"
[04:02] <jmichaelx> the 4.7 upgrade has nnot given me much, aside from a few bugs and regressions
[04:03] <Linkmaster> Though at the same time, I HAVE no updates. I had some about 3-4 days ago, where my network manager went wacko[in the sense that I simply couldn't connect] and I ended up needing to reinstall the STA driver, but other than that I was good
[04:03] <Linkmaster> the 4.7, other than a few regressions I'm not pleased with, have given me quite a few benefits
[04:04] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: i have been wanting to look into why ubuntu is not yet using the new libre broadcom  wireless drivers. i believe they are being used in fedora
[04:05] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: what benefits did .7 give you?
[04:05] <Linkmaster> libre broadcome drivers?
[04:05] <jmichaelx> 4.7*
[04:05] <AlexZion> anyway kubuntu is growing up very well and fast .....and kde is always more lovable ..... :D
[04:06] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: yes, broadcom released free/OS drivers for some of their wireless chipsets some months ago
[04:06] <AlexZion> I just think the default config should be a bit different .....
[04:06] <Linkmaster> 4.7 allows some nice things for me to do, such as the 'view all' option to show all the windows. As well as window thumbnails. I could do both on 4.5, but when I upgraded to 4.6 using maverick, it froze my system all the time. Using 11.04, I could use window thumbnails, but not the 'present all' feature
[04:07] <Linkmaster> Hmm...the STA seems to work for me, I'm not changing a not broken opject
[04:07] <Linkmaster> and we should probably move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: ahhh... i think i do not even use many of those things
[04:07] <AlexZion> I have to go guys ...., so thanks again and see you next time .. ;)
[04:08] <jmichaelx> AlexZion: take care!
[04:09] <Linkmaster> jmichaelx: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <jmichaelx> Linkmaster: there
[04:39] <ItBlends> When I switch to gimp. The gimp dialog boxes don't come up also. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:41] <Linkmaster> ItBlends: the gimp dialog boxes have either been closed, or are 'hiding' behind gimp. Check the task bar to see if they show up
[04:44] <ItBlends> Linkmaster, They aren't closed. And they aren't hiding behind gimp. They are hiding behind the non gimp windows.
[04:45] <ItBlends> They don't show up in the task bar either
[04:45] <Linkmaster> Are they stacked?
[04:45] <ItBlends> I can only find them by minimizing all non gimp windows
[04:46] <Linkmaster> I know that in my taskbar, similar windows get stacked. You might be able to fiddle with something to have the dialog windows show up as well, though I wouldn't know. When I use gimp, and don't want to be bothered with other things, I just use another desktop for it
[04:46] <ItBlends> Linkmaster, nope. sometimes they show up in the task bar, but in general they aren't there
[04:46] <ItBlends> I'm not sure when they show up
[04:46] <Linkmaster> Hm..I don't then :l I'm pretty tired, so I'm probably just stupid at the moment, maybe someone else will know
[04:48] <Daskreech> ItBlends: what window manager are youusing?
[04:49] <ItBlends> Daskreech, kwin.. or whatever is the default
[04:49] <Daskreech> ok and the Gimp dialogs are modal child windows ?
[04:50] <ItBlends> Daskreech, they aren't modal.
[04:50] <Daskreech> Ah. ok
[04:50] <Daskreech> What version of KDE?
[07:43] <calwig> hi, i seem to have no more taskbar. how can i get it back?
[07:44] <calwig> ach brb
[08:15] <pistola> two things , i have just installed kubuntu 11.04 on a laptop and every hardware`s recognized fine , but a problem is that a i have to click enter to forward the boot process otherwise it just stops at first boot screen , thats really annoying , another thing is that when i plug in my headphones  when try to listen to music the music comes from the speakers anyway , so i have to have the headphones plugged in from boot start to get sound
[08:15] <pistola>  in there , so is there a fix for that ?
[08:30] <ionite> hi
[08:30] <ionite> how can i view chinese fonts in chinese programs?
[08:38] <ionite> how can i view chinese fonts in chinese programs?
[10:22] <Efarth> %C1,4 hello
[10:35] <ionite> if i were to run exe files on KDE. what should i use? WINE? Virtual?
[10:36] <James147> ionite: depends on what it does ^^ some work better in a vm some work better with wine
[10:37] <James147> (most of the time its even better to find an alternative that is native to linux)
[10:38] <ionite> James147: it's text based research. minimal graphics.
[10:38] <James147> that dosnt tell me much
[10:38] <ionite> James147: just that it's a EXE file. basically like an encyclopaedia that's with little graphics.
[10:39] <James147> You could try it with wine and if not then try a vm
[10:43] <ionite> James147: thanks
[10:45] <gaelle_> hi. i have a big problem. The networkmanager plasmoid does no longer manage my connections. I tells me that the wireless is deactivated on the hardware side (its not, works fine under windows) and even when connecting a lan cable, it tells me that the lan cable is disconnected. Its actually not, because i can still go on the internet (chating right now). so networkmanager seems disconnected from the "computer". any ideas?
[10:47] <ionite> James147: btw, why can't my KDE automactically connects to my WLAN @ startup? i have to click enable networking & enable WLAN inorder to connect. I'm also check the box to connect automactically.
[10:48] <James147> ionite: umm... they shouldnt be disabled on reboot :S
[10:49] <ionite> James147: so what should i do?
[10:50] <James147> ionite: not entirly sure... you could try deleting /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state  ^^ though I am not sure that will help
[10:51] <James147> ionite: what version of kde?
[10:51] <yofel> gaelle_: what version of kubuntu and kde?
[10:52] <ionite> James147: 4.07? how do i check?
[10:52] <James147> any kde app > help > about kde
[10:59] <ionite> James147: 4.07
[11:00] <James147> ionite: this happen after you upgraded to 4.7?
[11:01] <ionite> James147: no. i didn't upgrade. i just deleted my netbook remix and installed 4.7
[11:09] <James147> ionite: only thing I can suggest is trying a new user and if it dosnt work for them try reconfigureing networkmanager
[11:09] <James147> (if it dose work for the new user then try resetting the networkmanager settings in your home dir
[11:25] <ionite> James147: how can i permanently check the box Enable WLAN?
[11:48] <alvin> Is the new Amarok in some repo? I don't care how experimental it is. 2.4.1 crashes way too much
[12:02] <jemparing> alvin: i just update amarok from 2.4.1 to 2.4.3 just now. quite changes
[12:03] <yofel> alvin: amarok 2.4.3 is in backports ppa together with kde 4.7
[12:03] <alvin> lol, I see. I asked a minute too soon :-)
[12:05] <jemparing> ionite: can you check updates again? coz i got the same issue with de 1st update. i then check updates then apply de 2nd updates. it should fix networkmanager.
[12:06] <AlexZion> yeah I had the same problem , fixed with new updgrade ....
[12:32] <alvin> Amarok still freezes. Bug 777639 is still in effect.
[13:06] <tonymc> yay, new KDE update fixed network manager plasmoid
[13:15] <ionite> why KDE cannot detect my external HDD?
[13:16] <tonymc> can linux detect it at all?
[13:17] <tonymc> if you go to terminal and type ls /dev/sd* do you see it?
[13:19] <ionite> tonymc: why do i have to type this command inorder for it to detect?
[13:19] <tonymc> no it's not to detect
[13:19] <tonymc> it's to see if linux sees the drive at all
[13:19] <soee> how can i access some folder from windows os?
[13:20] <tonymc> soee where is that folder?
[13:20] <ionite> tonymc: after i type the command my desktop prompted me detection why can't it detect prior to the command?
[13:20] <tonymc> ionite that's strange, shouldn't happen like that
[13:21] <tonymc> ionite anyway it's not KDE fault, it's more to do with udev i  think
[13:21] <soee> tonymc, my home folder
[13:22] <ionite> tonymc: what's udev? is it a bug or something
[13:22] <tonymc> ionite i'm not too familiar with linux's guts so i can't help you with that... i'm not sure it'
[13:23] <tonymc> it certainly is a bug, i just don't know what kind of
[13:23] <ionite> tonymc: anyways are u using KDE?
[13:23] <tonymc> soee i mean on which drive? if you open dolphin, don't you see it in that left sidebar?
[13:23] <tonymc> ionite yes i'm using KDE
[13:23] <ionite> tonymc: how do i change the repo?
[13:23] <tonymc> ionite and i don't have this problem
[13:23] <tonymc> ionite KPackageKit -> settings -> edit origins
[13:24] <tonymc> but why do you want to change repo?
[13:24] <tonymc> i mean, you're not going to do something funny are you?
[13:24] <tonymc> like changing ubuntu repos to debian, like i did once
[13:24] <ionite> tonymc: oic. i'm gonna install wine. which 1 should i choose in the kpackage?
[13:25] <tonymc> ionite for some reason the latest wine results in unresolved dependencies so you'd be better off with wine 1.2
[13:26] <tonymc> ionite you want to install wine or you want to change the repo? maybe you meant adding winehq PPA to your repos?
[13:27] <ionite> tonymc: u read me well
[13:27] <ionite> tonymc: :)
[13:27] <ionite> tonymc: btw, do u use wine? are u familiar with wine?
[13:27] <tonymc> ionite we all were noobs at some point :-)
[13:27] <tonymc> ionite well you just install it and then run windows exes as if they were regular linux programs
[13:28] <ionite> tonymc: i was prompted many missing DLL files
[13:28] <tonymc> ionite what are you trying to run?
[13:29] <tonymc> you don
[13:29] <ionite> tonymc: a research EXE file. with lots of text and minimal graphics.
[13:29] <ionite> tonymc: i copied all the files from the CD and pasted on my HDD so i'm installing from my HDD since my netbook doesn't have a CD ROM drive
[13:29] <tonymc> i remember something about DLLs in wine config, you might want to check in there
[13:29] <tonymc> add those DLLs to wine
[13:30] <tonymc> i mean, if you *have* those DLLs on CD
[13:30] <tonymc> if not - you will have to find out what are these DLLs that are missing, and if they are capable of running under wine - it'll work
[13:30] <tonymc> you might want to use dependency walker for that
[13:32] <tonymc> there is a "Libraries" tab in wine config, so whenever you know which libraries your EXE depends on, you just get those DLLs and add library overrides one by one
[13:32] <ionite> tonymc: how to use dependcy walker?
[13:32] <tonymc> if it is going to work at all, it will work. if it doesn't - well you're out of luck then
[13:33] <tonymc> load it up and then lod your exe into dependency walker
[13:33] <tonymc> it will show which DLLs the EXE tries to load
[13:34] <tonymc> i'm not sure if it will work under wine though, i never tried
[13:35] <ionite> tonymc: meaning i have to d/l dependency walker and install dependency walker?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hello folks
[13:35] <tonymc> IIRC you can run it without installing, but yes, you'll have to download it from here http://www.dependencywalker.com/
[13:35] <tonymc> hey there digital out guy
[13:36] <BluesKaj> hi tonymc
[13:41] <tonymc> ionite i just checked - dependency walker works under wine. however, you would need a good knowledge of windows to distinguish the DLLs that are likely to be present on Wine versus the ones you actually have to find
[13:42] <tonymc> ionite i can help you with that if you are willing to go down that route as opposed to just installing VirtualBox and having Windows on a virtual machine
[13:43] <ionite> tonymc: welcome onbard :)
[13:43] <tonymc> ionite we better move to #kubuntu-offtopic as this isn't directly kubuntu-related
[13:43] <ionite> tonymc: see u there
[13:45] <BluesKaj> whynot dual boot
[14:04] <noaXess> hey all.
[14:04] <noaXess> my xorg currently used 10 -30% cpu...
[14:04] <noaXess> yn idea how to get more information about xorg to see why it needs as much cpu?
[14:04] <tonymc> xorg should go away
[14:05] <noaXess> tonymc: that means?
[14:05] <tonymc> on my system it too starts hogging up CPU some times
[14:05] <tonymc> usually restarting X fixes that
[14:05] <tonymc> that means i'm eagerly waiting for Wayland
[14:05] <noaXess> not really. after few inutes.. it comes back..
[14:05] <noaXess> i think it' ssince upgrading to kde 4.7
[14:05] <tonymc> well that's really strange... what driver are you using? usually these problems are related to buggy drivers
[14:06] <noaXess> tonymc: nvidia
[14:06] <tonymc> proprietary?
[14:06] <naftilos76> how can i get evidence after a total crash/freeze - suddenly everything crashed, nothing moves on the screen, no virtual consoles can be accessed nothing...What log files can be accessed in order to get any kind of data?
[14:06] <tonymc> naftilos76 are you using nouveau nvidia driver?
[14:07] <naftilos76> i am using nvidia driver from repos
[14:08] <tonymc> naftilos76 there are two nvidia drivers - proprietary nvidia and opensource nouveau. nouveau locks up after some time on my system the same way you describe. the solution is to boot with nouveau.noaccel=1 specified along your usual ro quiet splash
[14:08] <naftilos76> GeForce 9600GT is my Graphics board GPU
[14:08] <tonymc> naftilos76 so, are you using nouveau or nvidia proprietary? both are in te repos
[14:08] <noaXess> tonymc: my system uses nvidia..
[14:09] <tonymc> noaXess that's why i switched to nouveau - nvidia wasn't working well for me, but maybe for you it isn't an option
[14:09] <noaXess> tonymc: i tried nv earlier.. as you wrote.. not an option..
[14:10] <noaXess> but.. it seems that this cpu usage is since kde 4.7.. hm..
[14:10] <noaXess> mybe some issue in kwin
[14:10] <tonymc> noaXess maybe ask on #kde-devel
[14:10] <noaXess> tonymc: ok
[14:10] <tonymc> or #kde
[14:10] <muntiKubu> have you tried  NV 280.13?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, there is a new 280.13 nvidia driver available at xorgedgers , which solved some of my graphics freeze problems on natty
[14:10] <soee> noaXess, had the same with 4.7
[14:10] <noaXess> soee: and.. what solution?
[14:11] <soee> changing drivers doesnt help
[14:11] <naftilos76> tonymc: i haven't got that option in my grub file. I still do not understand what i have installed.
[14:11] <soee> im back on 4.6.5 :/
[14:11] <noaXess> instead of back to 4.6 and wait :=)
[14:11] <naftilos76> tonymc: how can i get the info you need? with dpkg -l | grep something?
[14:11] <tonymc> naftilos76 of course there is no option, you haven't added it there
[14:12] <noaXess> muntiKubu: you mean a nvidia 280.13 or for nouveau?
[14:12] <tonymc> naftilos just cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[14:12] <muntiKubu> noaXess: the latest Nvidia driver is 280.13 which you can get from Nvidia
[14:12] <naftilos76>     Driver         "mouse"
[14:12] <naftilos76>     Driver         "kbd"
[14:12] <naftilos76>     Driver         "nvidia"
[14:12] <noaXess> muntiKubu: ok.. but not from repo..
[14:12] <BluesKaj> or one can use the nomodeset in grub to over ride the default nouveau driver and thereby enable the nvidia-current
[14:13] <tonymc> Ok so it's not nouveau
[14:13] <tonymc> that means i'm useless here haha
[14:13] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj.. wasup?
[14:13] <naftilos76> :-)
[14:13] <BluesKaj> hi noaXess
[14:13] <noaXess> BluesKaj: mine is the nvidia-current 270.41.06-0ubuntu1
[14:14] <naftilos76> thanks tonymc
[14:14] <naftilos76> bb
[14:14] <BluesKaj> nox have you tried the 280?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> noaXess,^
[14:14] <muntiKubu> noaXess: what's wrong with nvidia-current?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> muntiKubu, nothing as long as it works
[14:15] <noaXess> muntiKubu: since kde 4.7 i have some cpu usage from xorg.. 10-30% without doing big stuff
[14:17] <noaXess> now an overall cpu usage of 10-12%.. seems xorg has ben recovered after closing some programms..
[14:17] <noaXess> but that isn't normal.. for just three open apps and ovarall cpu usage of 10-12%, right?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> noaXess, yeah that seems normal
[14:18] <noaXess> BluesKaj: thats normal? 10-12% overall.. hm.. thought befor 4.7 it was lower.. like 4-8%
[14:18] <noaXess> cpu temp overall is 60-46°
[14:18] <noaXess> 64° ^
[14:18] <muntiKubu> noaXess: I haven't paying attention to it but how did u get those numbers?
[14:19] <noaXess> BluesKaj: the 280 nvidia isn't in repos, right? so need to intstall it manually
[14:19] <noaXess> how? what muntiKubu?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> noaXess, there's a ppa ..hang on'
[14:19] <muntiKubu> I'd like to see what those numbers are for me using the same monitor as yours
[14:20] <noaXess> cpu usage over top.. and cpu temp over the widget.. wait
[14:20] <muntiKubu> ok
[14:20] <noaXess> muntiKubu: hardware temparature widget...
[14:20] <noaXess> muntiKubu: the cpu usage also over the cpu monitor widget
[14:21] <noaXess> btw.. cpu usage doesn't care about effects on or off..
[14:23] <muntiKubu> I only have quassel and konsole running but it varies widely from < 1 to 25%
[14:24] <noaXess> muntiKubu: and cpu temp?
[14:24] <noaXess> muntiKubu: do you also use a notebook?
[14:24] <muntiKubu> desktop
[14:24] <noaXess> muntiKubu: hm.. maybe a different..
[14:25] <noaXess> also have a problem that firefox is slow after a while... some of you too?..
[14:26] <muntiKubu> noaXess: you might want to look at disabliong some of KDE stuff that runs on the background - like akonadi, strigi, file indexing, etc
[14:28] <noaXess> muntiKubu: already disabled ;)
[14:28] <tonymc> what does it have to do with Xorg?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> noaXess, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[14:29] <tonymc> if Xorg is misbehaving, that must be related to something directly interfacing with Xorg - that is, either driver, or KWin (or Xorg itself could be broken too, and changes somewhere in drivers or KWin could trigger that bug)
[14:29] <noaXess> tonymc: hm... if i work with firefox.. and hav a lot of tab's open.. that uses aso grafic power and a lot of ram for fiefox.. sometimes 1GB+... then xorg is working hard.. and if i cloe ff xorg has a break ;).. you know what i mean
[14:29] <muntiKubu> tonymc: not xorg but cpu usage
[14:30] <tonymc> you said xorg was hogging 30% CPU
[14:30] <noaXess> tonymc: jep sometimes... 10-30%
[14:30] <tonymc> so KWin then
[14:30] <noaXess> maybe new kwin version of kde 4.7 has some issues or does some badly thing with xorg
[14:30] <tonymc> it's true that they changed a lot of stuff in KWin for the 4.7 release
[14:31] <noaXess> tonymc: maybe waiting a week to get more updates
[14:31] <tonymc> for example, my OpenGL doesn't work anymore, but that's because of the bug in nouveau
[14:31] <tonymc> more like a few months
[14:31] <noaXess> but.. anyway.. at your stations.. is firefox also slow?..
[14:31] <noaXess> it should be faster, right?
[14:32] <tonymc> and it worked fine on 4.6, but still it's a bug in nouveau
[14:32] <noaXess> if ff eats to much memory it get's slow..
[14:32] <noaXess> and ff needs to me restarted
[14:33] <alvin> On 4.7, my CPU is finally behaving.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> tonymc, nouv driver isn't capable of DR or #3D from my experience , so why is it the default and why does it need to be blacklisted or over ridden with nomodeset . It seems to me it's a bug that been ignored by the devs
[14:34] <tonymc> BluesKaj i don't need 3D, and nouveau is working fine for me with noaccel=1
[14:36] <tonymc> though it's really bad that it locks up
[14:36] <BluesKaj> tonymc, you're ok with that , but there are those of us who expect more , especially if we use pci graphics
[14:36] <tonymc> i mean, without noaccel=1 it just locks up
[14:37] <tonymc> imagine someone loading up livecd on my PC and within minutes Kubuntu just freezes and you can't do anything until five minutes later it unfreezes and restarts X
[14:38] <tonymc> anyway it's still technically not nouveau's fault
[14:38] <tonymc> i still don't understand what (other than politics) prevents nvidia from releasing their specs
[14:39] <tonymc> isn't more widespread adoption good for them?
[14:41] <tonymc> amd managed to compete just fine with releasing at least some of the specs
[14:50] <ionite_> tonymc: sorry i got DC
[14:50] <tonymc> m?
[14:51] <ionite_> tonymc: which channel is it? how do i set ubuntu main server?
[14:51] <tonymc> in KPackageKit go to settings, then press edit origins and select Main Server as opposed to whatever mirror you have there
[14:53] <sharkmonkey> are the nouveau drivers being made by reverse engineering and register poking?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> sharkmonkey, you'll have to ask the devs
[15:01] <mehrab> hey, I can't click on my kde desktop or panel, but everything else is OK. what's the matter?
[15:02] <sharkmonkey> mehrab, maybe plasma locked up?
[15:03] <tonymc> plasma is thinking of something and it doesn't want you to interrupt it
[15:04] <mehrab> sharkmonkey, how should I unlock it?
[15:05] <sharkmonkey> mehrab, i think it would restart if you killed it
[15:05] <sharkmonkey> maybe not
[15:06] <mehrab> tonymc, :)
[15:06] <ionite_> tonymc: how i know which is the main server?
[15:06] <sharkmonkey> well you could kill it and then launch it from krunner
[15:06] <sharkmonkey> killall plasma-desktop
[15:06] <tonymc> it says "Main Server" in the dropdown box
[15:06] <sharkmonkey> then press alt-f2
[15:07] <sharkmonkey> and run plasma-desktop
[15:09] <mehrab> sharkmonkey, not, not worked
[15:09] <sharkmonkey> mehrab, killing didn't kill it?
[15:10] <sharkmonkey> relaunching didn't work? relaunching worked, but it's still unresponsive?
[15:10] <mehrab> sharkmonkey, it did, but the problem is not solved
[15:12] <ionite_> tonymc: are u there?
[15:13] <tonymc> nope, i'm here
[15:14] <mehrab> sharkmonkey, I removed .kde folder, and it's OK now. thanks for responce
[15:15] <tonymc> and with that folder you removed all your kde-related config
[15:15] <tonymc> like passwords, kmail etc
[15:15] <sharkmonkey> can a single plasma applet end up locking up the entire plasma interface?
[15:16] <tonymc> if it stumbles upon a bug in plasma - why not?
[15:16] <sharkmonkey> ignoring bugs. can the intended design allow that to happen?
[15:17] <sharkmonkey> ignoring bugs in plasma itself, and allowing for bugs in a given widget
[15:17] <tonymc> i don't think so
[15:17] <ionite_> tonymc: i got this: A package dependency could not be found. More information is available in the detailed report.
[15:17] <tonymc> although nedless loops could make that happen maybe
[15:17] <tonymc> endless
[15:17] <tonymc> ionite_ where are you installing wine from? winehq PPA or official repos?
[15:18] <ionite_> tonymc: i'm just done with WINE but i'm installing flash from kpackage
[15:18] <tonymc> ionite_ i remember telling you that you're better off with version 1.2 as 1.3 breaks dependencies
[15:18] <tonymc> well i can't really say anything about flash
[15:19] <tonymc> it was automatically installed and i didn't even think about it
[15:19] <ionite_> tonymc: but i was in miniclips.com and i get see some games or even play some online games
[15:20] <tonymc> i don't play games, especially flash ones, so can't say anything about that
[15:20] <ionite_> tonymc: do u do PM?
[15:20] <tonymc> and PM is?..
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ionite_, if you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed then flash is installed as part of that package
[15:20] <tonymc> package management?
[15:21] <ionite_> tonymc: private message
[15:21] <ionite_> BluesKaj: i did that and i still cant play some games.
[15:21] <tonymc> of course i do private messages, five a dollar
[15:21] <tonymc> just kidding
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ionite_, ok try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer in the terminal
[15:22] <ionite_> tonymc: alright. it worked! my exe file worked! thanks so much tony :)
[15:22] <tonymc> great to hear that
[15:23] <tonymc> one more man helped and i am guarateed to go to heaven
[15:23] <ionite_> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[15:23] <ionite_> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:23] <mehrab> sharkmonkey, additional info: I think the problem was gmail plasmoid, I added it and it locked up again
[15:23] <ionite_> tonymc: btw why some of my chinese fonts were displayed as alien fonts while some appear perfectly fine?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ionite_, make sure you have multiverse, universe and canonical partner repositories enabled in kpackagekit
[15:26] <ionite_> BluesKaj: how do i do that?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ionite_, and it won't hurt to have other software sources enabled as well
[15:27] <BluesKaj> kpackagekit
[15:28] <ionite_> BluesKaj: what about chinese programs? can it display the alien fonts?
[15:28] <Uninstall> I'm the kdeartworks maintainer, can anybody report a kubuntu bug for me on your bugzilla?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ionite_, sorry I have no idea
[15:31] <alvin> Uninstall: That would be Launchpad. It's discouraged to reports Kubuntu bugs on Launchpad, unless they are packaging bugs.
[15:32] <alvin> The automated tools are also not working for those of use who use the backports ppa in order to have bugfixes.
[15:32] <Uninstall> alvin: it's a kind of packaging bug
[15:32] <Uninstall> you've added a button on wallpaper settings dialog
[15:32] <alvin> Tell us about it
[15:32] <Uninstall> that allows to install extra wallpapers
[15:32] <alvin> Is that the 'Get new Wallpapers' button?
[15:32] <Uninstall> yes
[15:33] <Uninstall> that button doesn't install kdebase-wallpapers
[15:33] <Uninstall> but it installs wallpapers from kdeartworks
[15:33] <alvin> Yes, it uses OpenDesktop or something. Never tried it.
[15:33] <Uninstall> it should install before kdebase-wallpapers and eventually kdeartworks wallpapers
[15:34] <Uninstall> so please change it if you want to provide a good kde experience
[15:34] <alvin> There's no kdebase-wallpapers in the repositories
[15:35] <alvin> Oh, yes there is. It's probably kde-wallpapers and kdeartwork
[15:35] <alvin> Is the default KDE behaviour to install these packages?
[15:36] <Uninstall> alvin: I mean kdebase-workspace-wallpapers
[15:36] <Uninstall> you should install it
[15:36] <Uninstall> and optionally kdewallpapers
[15:36] <alvin> I see. That package is also there. The description says it's not installed by default in order to save space. Makes sense.
[15:37] <Uninstall> alvin: yeah, but that button should instead install that package
[15:37] <Uninstall> not kdewallpapers
[15:37] <alvin> And the Kubuntu developers have added that button? They mostly try to follow default KDE behaviour. We don't even have UbuntuOne
[15:38] <Uninstall> alvin: sorry, it has been added from KDE people
[15:39] <Uninstall> but there problem is still there
[15:40] <alvin> You'll need to be in #kubuntu-devel for that discussion. A feature request can be made to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace (report a bug). You better do it yourself. It's a quick process and you'll get updates by mail. The bug can be linked to an upstream report.
[15:40] <ionite_> BluesKaj: tonymc: how do i enable cookies?
[15:41] <tonymc> erm... you have to disable them first, they're enabled by default
[15:42] <alvin> Uninstall: I just noticed there is another button in that window. It says 'Install Default Wallpapers'. Mind you, I'm on KDE 4.7, and that is not a part of the released Kubuntu
[15:42]  * alvin pressed shiny button
[15:42] <Uninstall> 2 buttons?
[15:43] <alvin> Yes, Install Default Wallpapers, Open, and Get New Wallpapers
[15:45] <alvin> It's installing a 'package file', but the window doesn't tell me what package. I guess that's no useful information
[15:46] <alvin> I would file a bug for that little progress window, but I won't bother now. We get a new package manager and default browser every release anyway. It's probably already deprecated.
[15:46] <ionite_> BluesKaj: tonymc: how do i enable cookies?
[15:47] <yofel> alvin: it installs kdewallpapers
[15:47] <tonymc> ionite_ in the preferences of your browser
[15:47] <alvin> there you have it. I'll have some new wallpapers in a few minutes.
[15:47]  * alvin wonders if any of them can be used for his dual-screen.
[15:47] <yofel> kde-wallpapers was only recently splitted into kde-wallpapers and kde-wallpapers-default so that was probably just missed
[15:48] <Uninstall> alvin: Get new wallpapers is related to get hot new stuff
[15:48] <alvin> yes, it is
[15:48] <Uninstall> alvin: while the other one install the wallpapers from distro packages
[15:48] <yofel> Uninstall: right, the right button uses get hot new stuff, the left one installs the kdartwork wallpapers
[15:48] <alvin> And yofel is right. Now, kdewallpapers is installed
[15:49] <yofel> Uninstall: but indeed some of the kde-wallpapers wallpapers are probably missing
[15:49] <yofel> alvin: is 'kde-wallpapers' installed?
[15:49] <alvin> No, kdewallpapers. No dash.
[15:49] <Uninstall> it should install kde-workspace-wallpapers
[15:49] <Uninstall> they are "more important"
[15:50] <yofel> Uninstall: *that* doesn't exist. it's kde-wallpapers
[15:50] <yofel> you're right anyway
[15:50] <alvin> Uninstall: You'll probably mean kdebase-workspace-wallpapers. That one is not installed.
[15:50] <yofel> Uninstall, alvin: kdebase-workspace-wallpapers is 4.6, kde-wallpapers is 4.7 - just for clarification
[15:51] <alvin> Right :-)
[15:51] <alvin> They can both be installed. (I'm on KDE 4.47)
[15:51] <alvin> *4.7
[15:52] <yofel> kde-wallpapers and kdewallpapers can, rigtht. One is former workspace and the other is artwork (and yes, we know the naming is confusing)
[15:52] <alvin> Erm, just to clarify. I was wrong about the dash. There's kde-wallpapers (not installed) and kdewallpapers (installed) now. kdebase-workspace-wallpapers is not installed
[15:53] <Uninstall> I'm not really interested about what happens on the distribution side
[15:53] <yofel> Uninstall: uh, that was renamed on the kde side, blame them...
[15:53] <Uninstall> but I would like to see workspace wallapapers installed
[15:53] <Uninstall> no, we didn't
[15:53] <yofel> Uninstall: I'll have a look at it
[15:53] <yofel> Uninstall: yes you did, it's trunk/KDE/kde-wallpapers in svn
[15:54] <Uninstall> ooh, right, yeah, I did it some month ago
[15:54] <yofel> see :P
[15:54] <Uninstall> the other should be named kde-artwork-wallpapers instead
[15:55] <yofel> Uninstall: It'll probably need a rename, but kdewallpapers would need to stay for transitional reasons, so there's no hurry on our side.
[15:55] <yofel> Uninstall: I'll have a look at that anyway, thanks for mentioning it. (but next time in #kubuntu-devel please ;)
[15:57] <Uninstall> yofel: oh, I didn't know that chan
[15:57] <Uninstall> ok
[15:57] <Uninstall> thanks
[16:10] <benl> i fail to understand the purpose of "activities" and the widget dashboard
[16:10] <DarthFrog> You and me both.
[16:11] <sharkmonkey> you can have different widget dashboard and panel layouts depending on the "activity"
[16:11] <home> The trash has reached its maximum time, error. I canot delete a blu ray file ! weird ?! some help ?
[16:13] <sharkmonkey> home, it's screwing up when it tries to put it in the trash? or when deleting from the trash?
[16:15] <home> no ok I found it
[16:15] <sharkmonkey> home, if it's the former, you should be able to skip the trash by doing a shift-delete
[16:15] <home> now I want to delete a folder. I canno tdelete it
[16:15] <home> no option o elete it
[16:16] <home> ok thanks
[16:44] <calwig> hi, im back and I wonder still how to get the KDE taskbar back. It somehow got turned off and I cant see my apps
[16:45] <BluesKaj> calwig, right click on the desktop , add widgets , then find the taskbar
[16:47] <calwig> BluesKaj: on the Kde desktop?
[16:47] <calwig> ok
[16:47] <calwig> brb
[16:47] <sharkmonkey> did you loose the entire task bar panel? or just the task manager functionality on the panel?
[16:48] <sharkmonkey> s/loose/lose
[16:48] <BluesKaj> maybe he did mean panel
[16:49] <calwig> I dont have that option, i have " create new, run command etc
[16:50] <calwig> refresh desktop, configure desktop...
[16:50] <BluesKaj> calwig, choose add panel if you lost whole thing
[16:50] <calwig> create new.... folder, text, html, link to device, application, URL
[16:51] <calwig> anywhere on the desktop i should click? to get that option?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> no 'add panel' option ?
[16:51] <calwig> <.<
[16:52] <calwig> im running gdm manager on Kde desktop
[16:52] <calwig> funny thing is that upon logging in, the panel at the bottom showed up for about a second, then a window up on the top FLASHED. then both disappeared
[16:53] <BluesKaj> ok , choose kdm at login
[16:53] <calwig> how can i run it from a terminal
[16:53] <calwig> kdm manager?
[16:53] <calwig> but I have been using GDM manager all this time, and its worked just fine
[16:53] <calwig> brb
[16:55] <BluesKaj> you can drop to a tty , ctrl+alt+f1 , the sudo service gdm stop , then sudo service kdm start , then ctrl+alt+f7 or 8
[17:08] <calwig> BluesKaj: k brb
[17:21] <devilchaos> hi folks having trouble setting up vpn with kvpnc has anyone delt with kvpnc here?
[17:22] <devilchaos> brb afk
[17:29] <devilchaos> bk
[17:35] <simontol> Hi, strigi search in Dolphin not working since I've upgraded to 4.7.0 via PPA, I can't get any results
[17:35] <Peace-> simontol: systemsettings
[17:35] <Peace-> desktop search
[17:37] <simontol> Peace- : yes?
[17:37] <simontol> all enabled
[17:37] <Peace-> simontol: screenshot please
[17:38] <simontol> Peace- can't you believe I have both Nepomuk and Strigi enabled?
[17:39] <Peace-> i want see please
[17:43] <simontol> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/321065/schermata3.png
[17:47] <simontol> Peace- : satisfied?
[17:47] <Peace-> simontol: are you italian ?
[17:48] <simontol> yes
[17:48] <Peace-> omg e allora dillo e vai in #ubuntu-it
[18:55] <calwig> Hi again
[18:58] <calwig> so um
[18:58] <calwig> Gdm started and Kde desktop is on
[18:58] <calwig> but i still have no taskbar, how can I start it from the console
[19:00] <BluesKaj> calwig, no i mean kdm , not gdm
[19:01] <calwig> ok here is the thing
[19:01] <calwig> kdm has to be ON to start KDE
[19:01] <BluesKaj> that's why gdm must be stopped , then kdm can run the desktop and the options for panel etc will be different in the right click dialog
[19:02] <BluesKaj> you can drop to a tty , ctrl+alt+f1 , the sudo service gdm stop , then sudo service kdm start , then ctrl+alt+f7 or 8
[19:02] <calwig> i changed the service
[19:03] <calwig> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:03] <BluesKaj> kde can run on gdm
[19:04] <BluesKaj> that''s the whole point I'm trying to kane j=here
[19:04] <BluesKaj> make
[19:05] <calwig> BluesKaj: right
[19:05] <calwig> ok here is what i will do
[19:06] <calwig> I will remove Kde and kdm
[19:06] <BluesKaj> why ?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> remove gdm
[19:07] <calwig> well Gnome environment on top of gdm is working fine
[19:07] <calwig> its Kde and KDM that are weird somehow
[19:09] <BluesKaj> kde and kdm aren't weird ...it works fine ...if you want to run kde then it's best run with kdm ..and if you don't want to follow my suggestions then you will continue to have problems
[19:32] <Daskreech> calwig: What are you trying to solve?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> lost his panel , and running kde on gdm , Daskreech , but has no 'add panel' option when right clicking on the desktop
[19:34] <Daskreech> what options does he get on right click? Assuming calwig is a he
[19:35] <Daskreech> I'll also assume that there isn't a black bacground?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, options are : create new.... folder, text, html, link to device, application, URL
[19:40] <Daskreech> Sounds like a folderview plasma container. is that right calwig?
[19:52] <calwig> so kdm is uninstalled
[19:53] <Daskreech> calwig: do you have a folderview containment?
[19:53] <calwig> gdm is running with Kde desktop
[19:53] <calwig> a what??
[19:53] <calwig> I have a desktop but i have no taskbar
[19:53] <calwig> I cant access any programs
[19:53] <Daskreech> when you right click on the desktop and you go into settings. Is the Layout a folder view?
[19:54] <calwig> when i right click i have no settings option on the menu
[19:54] <Daskreech> What is on the menu?
[19:55] <calwig> Create, Run, Refresh Desktop, Configure Desktop, Log Out, Switch User, Turn off
[19:55] <calwig> period.
[19:55] <calwig> nothing more
[19:55] <Daskreech> ha
[19:55] <ashwin> why is all my new mails going directly to trash im kmail?
[19:55] <Daskreech> what happens when you click on run?
[19:56] <Daskreech> if you get a floating cli can you type desktop settings in there and open the Plasma settings
[19:56] <Daskreech> ashwin: Filters I would suppose?
[19:56] <calwig> should i type desktop settings?
[19:57] <calwig> do you know the command?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> calwig, right click , choose configure desktop ...what are your options
[20:01] <calwig> Its Kicker
[20:01] <calwig> ARGHHH
[20:01] <calwig> Kicker is screwd up
[20:01] <calwig> I killed Kicker and restarted it and it wont start
[20:02] <calwig> It will restart show the taskbar for a second and disappear
[20:02] <calwig> whcih means one simple thing
[20:02] <calwig> im not going to deal with problems
[20:02] <calwig> only solutions
[20:02] <calwig> :)
[20:02] <calwig> KDM is out
[20:02] <calwig> and Kde too
[20:02] <FloodBotK1> calwig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <calwig> @FloodBotK1 Hi Glad you could join us
[20:03] <calwig> brb
[20:04] <Daskreech> Kicker?
[20:04]  * BluesKaj wonders why he wa here ...didn't follow anyone's suggestions , just complained
[20:04] <Daskreech> how can he acll kicker?
[20:05] <Daskreech> there is no kicker
[20:05] <BluesKaj> configure desktop option maybe
[20:10] <BluesKaj> BBL ... gonna setup dual boot on my other machine ..gotta keep my "hand in" windows. Wife sorta depends on me and it's best if I run it on a different pc
[20:13] <Juest> !ops
[20:13] <IdleOne> nice trolling
[20:13] <txwikinger> ok?
[20:14] <IdleOne> was just in -ops asking to have a ban removed, when refused joined here and called !ops
[20:14] <txwikinger> ah
[20:14] <Tm_T> hilight
[20:15] <txwikinger> I thought it was someone from London or Bham using same tactic as against riot police
[20:26] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I've got a problem with graphics being off-center when I run a game.
[20:26] <LINKSWORD2> Any ideas?
[20:27] <Daskreech> Smack the side of your monitor?
[20:27] <OerHeks> graphics off centre, you can't hit the target ?
[20:27]  * LINKSWORD2 smacks Daskreech instead.
[20:28] <Daskreech> I don't think I deserved that. I'm Capn Daskreech Sparrow
[20:28] <LINKSWORD2> OerHeks: Thanks for reminding me... The mouse cursor isn't even showing up.
[20:28] <OerHeks> try diable compiz ?
[20:28] <OerHeks> *disable
[20:29] <LINKSWORD2> I've tried both on and off.
[20:29] <LINKSWORD2> Compiz doesn't seem to be interfering.
[20:29] <OerHeks> full screen or maximized ?
[20:30] <LINKSWORD2> Both.
[20:30] <OerHeks> i used to know a setting 'disable compiz when full screen'
[20:30] <OerHeks> ah ok
[20:31] <LINKSWORD2> Let me see if I can find that.
[20:31] <LINKSWORD2> DarkwingDuck: I blame you.
[20:31] <OerHeks> that was in my gnome-period .. i'm on KDE 4.7 now
[20:32] <LINKSWORD2> OerHeks: I found a setting in Desktop Effects that says; "Suspend Desktop Effects for full-screen windows."
[20:32] <OerHeks> yes, that is the one.
[20:32] <LINKSWORD2> I have enabled it. Attempting to retry the game.
[20:34] <LINKSWORD2> It's still acting weird. Oer, I'm going to upload a snapshot.
[20:34] <LINKSWORD2> !screenshot
[20:36] <LINKSWORD2> BTW, OerHeks may I use /query?
[20:37] <OerHeks> i don't understand, /query ?
[20:38] <LINKSWORD2> One-on-one chat mode. Direct communication.
[20:38] <OerHeks> ah PM, sure
[21:05] <LINKSWORD2> DarkwingDuck: Yo. What's up?
[21:05] <LINKSWORD2> !offtopic
[21:08] <LINKSWORD2> Thanks, OerHeks! Let me know how that goes when you have a chance.
[21:08] <LINKSWORD2> BRB.
[21:23] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, look. I'm back! lol
[21:24] <szal> lol, do you expect ppl to cheer now? ;)
[21:54] <_BS_> BluesKaj - Very sorry I got called away from the keyboard yesterday, unable to see the results of any sleuthing you might have done on getting a BCM57781 going. Per http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/661198/. By any chance, did you discover anything?
[21:57] <_BS_> When I boot with my lts connected to my (hardware) KVM, the screen size is not understood - going to 800x600. When I have the monitor connected directly, I am able to choose a range between 640x480 and 1280x1024. What might the steps be to wire in the monitor settings so when I boot with kvm I can get back to my normal res? Thanks.
[22:13] <vuth_> how good is kubunut?
[22:14] <LINKSWORD2> Kubuntu is a VERY good operating system.
[22:15] <LINKSWORD2> Take it from me. I've had a well-rounded experience with Windows and Mac systems, as well as Linux, and Kubuntu is one of the best.
[22:19] <vuth_> wanna talk private Linksword2?
[22:20] <vuth_> unless ur busy..
[22:20] <vuth_> i have tons of noob question
[22:20] <LINKSWORD2> Aha.
[22:20] <LINKSWORD2> Sure.
[22:38] <Daskreech> vuth_: It would be better to ask questions here
[22:39] <Daskreech> LINKSWORD2: Sorry just got back Did hitting the monitor work? If not was it resolved otherwise? :-D
[22:39]  * LINKSWORD2 smacks Daskreech. No and no.
[22:39] <LINKSWORD2> No and no....
[22:41] <vuth_> i dont want to waste bandwidth but the CD and DVD version of kubutnu is the saem other than the language package. am i correct?
[22:43] <Daskreech> vuth_: the DVD version has Kubuntu and the entire Main repos on it. You can install the OS and a number of packages (including ubuntu and xubuntu) without the internet using the DVD
[22:45] <Daskreech> The CD just has the default items in a compressed image (also means it can't be used to install packages)
[22:46] <vuth_> thnx
[22:47] <vuth_> so im better off downloading the dvd version huh?
[22:48] <Daskreech> If you need that
[22:49] <Daskreech> Remember that they will likely be outof date in a short time. If you have access to the internet pretty reliably then the CD is probably going to be more useful
[22:49] <Daskreech> If not then spend more time getting the DVD but you will then have the ability to at least install a semi customized Kubuntu even if there is no internet available
[23:16] <Daskreech> vuth_: see above
[23:16] <vuth_> ?
[23:17] <Daskreech> vuth_: Jsut in case you had missedwhat I said. I hadn't directed it to you
[23:17] <vuth_> yeah i went witht he cd
[23:17] <vuth_> thnx again
[23:17] <Daskreech> Sure. Anything else you would like to know vuth_?
[23:17] <vuth_> none atm
[23:26] <Daskreech> ok