=== DNS777` is now known as DNS777 [01:46] Hi guys uploaded my first source package worked but got a build error anyone want to take a stab. seems basic, just wonder if I need to add it to my build depends control file [01:48] one error is /bin/sh: pkg-config: not found === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === apachelogger is now known as dslogger [03:18] hi guys anyone on to answer a question? [03:20] !ask | biffbaxter [03:20] biffbaxter: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:20] yeah I know...but I asked earlier and nobody replied for 30 minutes...so I figured... :) [03:22] I had a package uploaded to launchpad that failed the build process. So I deleted it, made the changes I think needed done, and re-uploaded the new one, but its not showing. How long should it take for the new package to show up in the PPA? [03:48] ah [03:48] 1 minute short :P === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: gmb | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [08:26] Hallo === med_out is now known as medberry === jtv is now known as jtv-afk [10:34] Is there anything different I should do to run a script that uses lp-lib in a cron? [10:34] the cron tries to reauthenticate [10:44] jelmer: hi, could you do a gcc import for lp:gcc/4.6 ? thanks for doing the 4.5 import [10:53] Is there a way to recreate a source_package_publishing_history object from its entries dictionnary? [10:53] Further, are there any suggestions on the following launchpadlib errors? I don't see where they're comming from, I recall it working Friday... http://paste.ubuntu.com/661318/ [11:00] ams_cs, sure [11:00] jelmer: thanks, any news on the automatic imports bug? [11:03] ams_cs: there is some progress on the bzr upstream bug, which is marked critical and on top of our todo list. [11:04] jelmer: cool, thanks [11:04] ryanakca: Each object has a self_link property. [11:04] ryanakca: You can give that URL to lp.load() to reload the object. [11:05] ryanakca: I'm not sure what you're trying to use lp_entires for... it's probably not what you want. [11:05] ryanakca: If you want to iterate over the objects in the collection, just use a for loop over aoeui. [11:10] wgrant: hi, got a minute? [11:31] nigelb: Hi. [11:32] wgrant: I'm trying to run ubuntu-sponsoring in a cron. [11:32] it works fine as normal user [11:32] already saved credentials [11:32] as a cron, the log shows asking for credentials [11:33] nigelb: How are the credentials saved? [11:33] as a file [11:33] If they're in something like GNOME Keyring or the KDE Wallet, it'll need to be unlocked. [11:33] Hmm. [11:33] Sure it's there and not in a desktop keyring? [11:33] I can see the file. [11:34] Which version of Ubuntu/launchpadlib? [11:34] lucid, and the launchpadlib in lucid. === warp11 is now known as warp10 [11:36] Hmm. [11:36] So it shouldn't be using the keyring.. [11:36] I've not sens something like that before :/ [11:36] It can't be run anonymously? [11:37] It should be able to run anonymously. [11:37] There's no private data it needs. [11:37] Of course the two people who know most about it are on vacation/away === stub1 is now known as stub === henninge is now known as henninge-lunch [11:58] i have created a new project on launchpad. how can i add multiple committers to this project [11:59] have a team owning the project, add people to the team [12:01] and make sure the branches are owned by the team. [12:04] thx... === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:19] wgrant: Will giving the self_link URL to lp.load() cause it to refetch everything? [12:22] ryanakca: Yes. [12:23] Well, "everything" being the object the URL references. [12:23] Bummer. Alright, thanks === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === henninge-lunch is now known as henninge [13:08] Where spkg is a source_package_publishing_history (https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#source_package_publishing_history) , how do I call its getPublishedBinaries method? spkg.getPublishedBinaries() gives me: AttributeError: 'Collection' object has no attribute 'getPublishedBinaries' [13:11] ryanakca: You have a set of source_package_publishing_histories there, not a single one. [13:12] wgrant: Aha! I see, thanks! [13:38] hello everybody! [13:39] question: I just passed this link to a friend who normally does not use LP (so he's not logged... he even doesn't have a LP account, shame on him!) [13:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/823284 [13:39] Ubuntu bug 823284 in Ubuntu One Client "Windows: local rescan can not detect "replaced" files" [High,Triaged] [13:39] he went to the bug, but he didn't see the comments! [13:40] (he sent me a screenshot, because I didn't believe him :p ) [13:40] the report is public, so it was very strange [13:40] he tried then with http://, and he saw the comments ok [13:40] is this expected? [14:31] hello [14:31] I have a question: I ve created a branch in launchpad [14:32] and when I am trying to commit to this branch using bzr [14:32] I get the following error: [14:32] bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-92449424:///%2Bbranch/stellarium/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport [14:32] do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? :) [14:33] bzr launchpad-login? [14:33] Possibly? [14:33] i did this [14:34] already [14:38] hikiko: what command are you using? [14:39] tsimpson: bzr commit -m "mpla mpla" [14:40] at a guess, I think it's using http rather than bzr+ssh, and http is read-only access [14:41] and how can i change this? [14:41] I'm not entirely sure, but #bzr should be better able to provide support [14:42] ok :) I ll ask there too thank you very much :) [14:59] Is there a way to set permissions on a branch in LP so two people can push to it without making a team? [15:05] I'm trying to solve a mystery here...I see a comment in launchpad bug as having been imported from upstream bugzilla but there is no such comment in upstream bugzilla. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/371897/comments/423 [15:06] Ubuntu bug 371897 in wine (Ubuntu) "Occasional sound drops in Wine via PulseAudio" [Low,Triaged] [15:06] If you click through to Wine Bugzilla from that link and search for that comment, you won't find it [15:14] gmb et al: Could somebody help me track down the source behind: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ivan1986/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=ubuntu-font-replace&field.status_filter= [15:15] it states "Removed files can still be downloaded from the Librarian; see below. " but there's little/nothing to see below [15:18] sladen: it was deleted more than 2 weeks ago so the files get removed completely after than [15:19] that* [15:19] the "Removed files" text needs fixing [15:37] bigjools: ta https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/823359 [15:37] Ubuntu bug 823359 in Launchpad itself ""Removed files can still be downloaded" currently lies, and needs fixing" [Undecided,New] === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [16:34] i'm pushing one branch (~3500 revs) to LP, and the process is slow as hell...any problems with Lp? === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:27] Hi! I’m hosting a small project on launchpad, now I’m curious where I could provide some information on the project. [17:28] Launchpad doesn’t have a built-in wiki itself, like other hosting platforms do. [17:28] create a wiki page via lauchpad use a blog use your imagination [17:28] So is there a recommended place where to put additional info? [17:28] ah lauchpad does have wiki [17:29] It does? Must have overlooked that all the years I’ve been using it. [17:29] X3lectric: thanks. [17:30] Just where do I find it? [17:32] create a wiki page via lauchpad? [17:33] LP's wiki is for Launchpad, it's not available for projects [17:33] there is bug about it...it has become activated some time ago... [17:34] there's some bug/blueprint/brainstorm on that but afaik not implemented yet [17:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/240067 [17:34] gour: I can't see wiki/doc option in projects [17:34] Ubuntu bug 240067 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad projects need wikis" [Low,In progress] [17:35] in progress [17:35] RenatoSilva: there are not...i believe i'd just use http://readthedocs.org for the project [17:36] i like bzr and the rest of LP...until there will be some wiki [17:36] fredo I dont like being a search engine prostitute but here u go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750642 [17:37] gour: oh the web jungle... [17:37] otoh, i'm worried why my push to LP is going on for more then 6hrs :-/ [17:38] X3lectric: thanks for making an exception. :-) [17:39] wait I did mention prostitution so pay UP [17:39] gour: 6 hours! [17:39] fredo: you dont understand [17:40] fredo: what is your project [17:40] RenatoSilva: yup :_/ [17:40] fredo: no, you don't [17:40] wth? [17:40] X3lectric: Maybe I’m completely stupid, but aren’t they using pages on wiki.ubuntu.com? [17:40] fredo: read the url, read the topic, THAT'S NOT FOR YOUR PROJECT's WIKI [17:41] fredo: that is the UBUNTU wiki [17:41] fredo: create a wiki page in the topic means a wiki page about YOU [17:41] RenatoSilva: I didn’t say anything different. [17:41] * gour killed his push [17:41] omg [17:41] RenatoSilva: I think you are arguing with the wrong guy. [17:41] fredo: so you're willing to create random pages there for your LP project [17:41] it even gives you wiki expamples [17:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Silver_Fox [17:42] X3lectric: OF PERSONAL wiki pages, NOT PROJECT pages? [17:42] soo you guys either read up or start making sense [17:42] gour and X3lectric read the bug 240067 [17:42] Launchpad bug 240067 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad projects need wikis" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240067 [17:43] [18:27] Hi! I’m hosting a small project on launchpad, now I’m curious where I could provide some information on the project. [17:43] RenatoSilva: I was just asking where I could create a page on my project, not that I was planning to use wiki.ubuntu.com. [17:43] is it not so dissimilar [17:43] X3lectric: that's not the proper page [17:43] X3lectric: you can't at LP...simple like that [17:44] fredo: that's not the proper page, it's the UBUNTU wiki not you project's wiki. READ THE BUG PLEASE? [17:44] X3lectric: except small text on the overview [17:44] dud its use you imagination [17:44] RenatoSilva: I really don’t understand why you are shouting at me. [17:44] sorry I mean *fredo* and X3lectric read the bug 240067 [17:45] Launchpad bug 240067 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad projects need wikis" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240067 [17:45] just cause its personal you dont have to be restricted by the info posted there [17:45] RenatoSilva: Yes, I read the bug. [17:45] fredo: I don't understand why are you accepting that as an answer to your question [17:45] Am I? [17:46] fredo: so the answer is currently there's no place to put project's documentation [17:46] fredo: if you want to create your project pages on that wiki, good luck for you [17:46] RenatoSilva: Yes, I think I did understand that. [17:46] RenatoSilva: read #bug 0800useyourimagination [17:46] Launchpad bug 800 in Launchpad itself "Security-related bugs should not have to always be private" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800 [17:47] RenatoSilva: No I have to shout back: I NEVER SAID I WAS USING wiki.ubuntu.com FOR MY PROJECT! [17:47] fredo: I use LP for my project more for development and support [17:47] fredo: neither did I say you were [17:48] RenatoSilva: Okay, so there is no problem. :-) [17:48] But thanks for the information. [17:48] fredo: that's a problem with LP as imo it's supposed to be a project hosting site just like SF.net [17:48] fredo: so a wiki would really be welcome [17:49] RenatoSilva: Yes, totally. [17:49] fredo: mark that bug as affecting you [17:49] I’ll do. [17:49] well the powers that eb already say its all free so cause its free it has to suck [17:50] me I would adpat the personal wiki and mod the hell out to cover that gap, or alternatively use wordpress [17:51] fredo: so after all this tstetrozone whats your project about [17:51] fredo: as my projects in LP are wiki engine plugins, their wiki pages and frontend is on the own wiki-engine website [17:51] X3lectric: It’s a speech synthesis frontend. [17:52] fredo: while it's not implemented, it's a jungle of options [17:52] fredo: nice [17:52] X3lectric: It’s part of a larger project to build a speech generating device using Ubuntu. [17:52] ah [17:52] *are in [17:53] sounds like something youd use if you wnated to create a AI [17:53] or replace the hawkins dude [17:53] fredo: so it's somewhat part of ubuntu? [17:54] RenatoSilva: I discussed that on #ubuntu-offtopic, but they tend to regard it not related to Ubuntu. [17:54] fredo: oh I see, "using" Ubuntu [17:54] all these rules [17:54] Yes, difficult. [17:55] fredo: the pages I've seen there in the ubuntu wiki are ubuntu-related, for example you find grub documentation there, but grub is included in ubuntu [17:55] its like moving bakck with your parents [17:55] -> using Ubuntu does not mean part of the Ubuntu project [17:55] X3lectric: why [17:55] why? [17:55] watch [17:56] tsimpson: yeah [17:56] lol [17:56] tsimpson: I just don’t know what actually makes something part of the ubuntu project. [17:56] X3lectric: parents returning [17:56] im just waiting [17:56] fredo: if it's part of the project itself, not just using the product [17:56] fredo: if it's included in ubuntu [17:57] documentation goes on help.u.c, wiki.u.c is mostly for teams (community) [17:57] X3lectric: its like moving back with your parents. How so? [17:57] what fredo means its using the ubuntu framework and delivery [17:57] Okay, then I’ll push hard for inclusion in Ubuntu if that gets me a wiki page. ;-) [17:57] X3lectric: waiting? [17:57] RenatoSilva: when you say lol [17:57] If they ever complete that page on the dev.ubuntu.com guide [17:57] usually thers a big hammer [17:57] "The purpose of this wiki is for information on contributing to Ubuntu and the coordination of teams working on Ubuntu." [17:58] help.u.c, wiki.u.c? [17:58] so it's not stuff that just uses Ubuntu, but things that are part of Ubuntu [17:58] RenatoSilva: expand "u.c" to "ubuntu.com" [17:58] X3lectric: I don't understand you. Never mind [17:59] how u trigger the bot? [17:59] ? lol [17:59] ! lol [17:59] Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [17:59] THERE you go [18:00] RenatoSilva: undderstand now [18:00] tsimpson: hmm help seems not a wiki, right? [18:00] X3lectric: absolutely no [18:01] X3lectric: are you a random messages bot? [18:01] no but look at the tone [18:01] RenatoSilva: help.ubuntu.com is also a wiki (well, everything under /community), but it's specifically for documentation/support [18:01] fredo: look, there's a problem with project and documentation [18:02] RenatoSilva: Yes, I agree. [18:02] fredo: how to map a given doc to the matching version? [18:02] fredo: so I tend to think of keeping the docs in the own repo as a good idea [18:02] nm [18:03] fredo: problem is converting it to wiki pages or editing raw wiki pages... [18:03] RenatoSilva: I’m not really planning to provide user documentation, rather developer docs and background information. [18:04] RenatoSilva: For user documentation, one can use a help system built into the software. [18:05] g32 === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [18:05] fredo: the advantage of online help for users is that the docs are always up-to-date, not requiring to update the package all the time for making sure the doc is the latest [18:06] fredo: but it's not really a oooooh issue I think [18:06] *an [18:06] RenatoSilva: probably. [18:07] fredo: if the docs won't be too big/complex, have you ever considered just using text files in the repo? [18:07] RenatoSilva: Sure, that would also work. Just not as representative. [18:08] fredo: for example, mines are that way, a single text file as there's nothing much to say about it [18:08] fredo: html is annoying, because of editing it [18:09] fredo: it would be nice if you could edit in some office suite or some other editor and from there generate pdf/html/wiki [18:10] fredo: you can with libreoffice, but I don't think it's good at html exporting and pdfs are binary [18:10] RenatoSilva: I sometimes use reStructuredText and export HTML and PDF (via LaTeX) from it. [18:11] RenatoSilva: And it’s also readable just as plain text. [18:12] fredo: just like wiki pages [18:13] RenatoSilva: right. [18:13] fredo: what's the relation between it and LaTex? [18:13] fredo: why would LaTex read non-LaTex docs? [18:14] RenatoSilva: rst can output LaTeX files from which you can generate PDFs. [18:18] fredo: oh I see [18:19] fredo: you may find this appropriate: http://moinmo.in/ReStructuredText [18:20] fredo: MoinMoin is the wiki engine under ubuntu and launchpad wikis [18:20] RenatoSilva: I see. [18:20] fredo: and probably will be the on for LP projects [18:22] fredo: so if you're confident with plain-text editing of RST, you could maintain the docs versioned and synced with your code, and when publishing, just put them in LP (if hopefully they implement some import feature :) ) [18:22] *the one [18:22] RenatoSilva: Yes, sounds like a good idea. [18:24] fredo: would be even better if they could track some tag pattern from your repo and import them into the wiki. That is, the wiki is automated! [18:25] fredo: they could also allow users edit or propose edits to the wiki pages so they're merged into your code if you accept it :) [18:25] I think it'd be something similar with translations (.po files) [18:25] * RenatoSilva 's foolish dreamings [18:26] *with they do with translations [18:27] *similar to what they do with translations === dslogger is now known as dickhouse [19:28] I'm trying to backport packages to Hardy. Launchpad keeps complaining "Source format '3.0 (quilt)' not supported by target series hardy" even though I believe my PPA has the packages to support this (quilt, dpkg, debhelper). How can I get my backports to build through launchpad? === dickhouse is now known as dragondrop [20:00] SPAM detected: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/59867/comments/129 [20:00] Ubuntu bug 59867 in linux (Ubuntu) "Synaptics touchpad ceases functioning after suspend and resume." [Medium,Won't fix] [20:14] komputes: I've hidden the comment in question, please file a question so we can contact the user and tell them that their email has been compomised [20:25] benji: is that the peocess, launchpad answers? [20:25] process* [20:25] yes [20:25] 'support' in the channel topic :) [20:26] komputes: yep; if it were just hiding the comments than something lighter weight would work, but we want to contact the poor soul so they stop spamming [20:26] benji: users should have spam karma ;) [20:26] hidden, but still indicative of how many hidden comments they have [20:26] heh [20:27] benji: sure, if you need me to do it, give me the URL and I'll post a question [20:27] komputes: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [20:29] Maybe there should be a checkbox when hiding a comment that toggles sending the user a notification automatically with a prewritten explanation (e.g. 'Your comment on x below has been hidden by a Launchpad administrator. In most cases, this is due a, b, c reasons. Please see http://... for more information.') [20:30] cody-somerville: flagging for review is a good idea [20:32] there are bugs for that ;) === dragondrop is now known as dslogger [20:55] jelmer, lifeless: gcc import ping [20:56] any estimate on the regular imports? [20:59] is it just me or the ppa uploads are broken? (550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.) [21:01] doko_: sorry, I don't know what you're referring to ? [21:01] ondrej: bug 798957 [21:01] Launchpad bug 798957 in Launchpad itself "Uploads are seemingly (but not actually) rejected" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798957 [21:14] lifeless, bug #797915 [21:14] Launchpad bug 797915 in Launchpad itself "large bzr-svn imports failing" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797915 [21:15] one month silence for a critical bug seems to be odd [21:15] doko_: we have 240 critical bugs and 20 engineers === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [21:44] lifeless, ubot5: thanks, I see now === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [23:32] poolie: hi [23:33] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798957 was mentioned by doko earlier [23:33] Ubuntu bug 798957 in Launchpad itself "Uploads are seemingly (but not actually) rejected" [Critical,Triaged] [23:33] bah [23:33] not that one [23:33] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797915 [23:33] Ubuntu bug 797915 in Launchpad itself "large bzr-svn imports failing" [Critical,In progress] [23:33] that one [23:33] it seems to have gone quiet - a month with no update; I'm curious if its still actively being worked on? [23:36] (I ask because doko mentioned it being important to linaro; I do have confidence in due process happening... but I promised to enquire :P) [23:38] lifeless, there was some progress on it today [23:39] jelmer: oh excellent [23:40] lifeless: fetching all revisions referenced by tags is no longer the default, it's now optional (and defaults to false) [23:40] lifeless: I'll see about getting that fix onto Launchpad, though not tonight :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel