[01:46] <biffbaxter> Hi guys uploaded my first source package worked but got a build error anyone want to take a stab. seems basic, just wonder if I need to add it to my build depends control file
[01:48] <biffbaxter> one error is /bin/sh: pkg-config: not found
[03:18] <biffbaxter> hi guys anyone on to answer a question?
[03:20] <lifeless> !ask | biffbaxter
[03:20] <biffbaxter> yeah I know...but I asked earlier and nobody replied for 30 minutes...so I figured... :)
[03:22] <biffbaxter> I had a package uploaded to launchpad that failed the build process. So I deleted it, made the changes I think needed done, and re-uploaded the new one, but its not showing. How long should it take for the new package to show up in the PPA?
[03:48] <lifeless> ah
[03:48] <lifeless> 1 minute short :P
[08:26] <mrevell> Hallo
[10:34] <nigelb> Is there anything different I should do to run a script that uses lp-lib in a cron?
[10:34] <nigelb> the cron tries to reauthenticate
[10:44] <ams_cs> jelmer: hi, could you do a gcc import for lp:gcc/4.6 ? thanks for doing the 4.5 import
[10:53] <ryanakca> Is there a way to recreate a source_package_publishing_history object from its entries dictionnary?
[10:53] <ryanakca> Further, are there any suggestions on the following launchpadlib errors? I don't see where they're comming from, I recall it working Friday... http://paste.ubuntu.com/661318/
[11:00] <jelmer> ams_cs, sure
[11:00] <ams_cs> jelmer: thanks, any news on the automatic imports bug?
[11:03] <jelmer> ams_cs: there is some progress on the bzr upstream bug, which is marked critical and on top of our todo list.
[11:04] <ams_cs> jelmer: cool, thanks
[11:04] <wgrant> ryanakca: Each object has a self_link property.
[11:04] <wgrant> ryanakca: You can give that URL to lp.load() to reload the object.
[11:05] <wgrant> ryanakca: I'm not sure what you're trying to use lp_entires for... it's probably not what you want.
[11:05] <wgrant> ryanakca: If you want to iterate over the objects in the collection, just use a for loop over aoeui.
[11:10] <nigelb> wgrant: hi, got a minute?
[11:31] <wgrant> nigelb: Hi.
[11:32] <nigelb> wgrant: I'm trying to run ubuntu-sponsoring in a cron.
[11:32] <nigelb> it works fine as normal user
[11:32] <nigelb> already saved credentials
[11:32] <nigelb> as a cron, the log shows asking for credentials
[11:33] <wgrant> nigelb: How are the credentials saved?
[11:33] <nigelb> as a file
[11:33] <wgrant> If they're in something like GNOME Keyring or the KDE Wallet, it'll need to be unlocked.
[11:33] <wgrant> Hmm.
[11:33] <wgrant> Sure it's there and not in a desktop keyring?
[11:33] <nigelb> I can see the file.
[11:34] <wgrant> Which version of Ubuntu/launchpadlib?
[11:34] <nigelb> lucid, and the launchpadlib in lucid.
[11:36] <wgrant> Hmm.
[11:36] <wgrant> So it shouldn't be using the keyring..
[11:36] <wgrant> I've not sens something like that before :/
[11:36] <wgrant> It can't be run anonymously?
[11:37] <nigelb> It should be able to run anonymously.
[11:37] <nigelb> There's no private data it needs.
[11:37] <nigelb> Of course the two people who know most about it are on vacation/away
[11:58] <kkm432> i have created a new project on launchpad. how can i add multiple committers to this project
[11:59] <ogra_> have a team owning the project, add people to the team
[12:01] <nigelb> and make sure the branches are owned by the team.
[12:04] <kkm432> thx...
[12:19] <ryanakca> wgrant: Will giving the self_link URL to lp.load() cause it to refetch everything?
[12:22] <wgrant> ryanakca: Yes.
[12:23] <wgrant> Well, "everything" being the object the URL references.
[12:23] <ryanakca> Bummer. Alright, thanks
[13:08] <ryanakca> Where spkg is a source_package_publishing_history (https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html#source_package_publishing_history) , how do I call its getPublishedBinaries method? spkg.getPublishedBinaries() gives me: AttributeError: 'Collection' object has no attribute 'getPublishedBinaries'
[13:11] <wgrant> ryanakca: You have a set of source_package_publishing_histories there, not a single one.
[13:12] <ryanakca> wgrant: Aha! I see, thanks!
[13:38] <facundobatista> hello everybody!
[13:39] <facundobatista> question: I just passed this link to a friend who normally does not use LP (so he's not logged... he even doesn't have a LP account, shame on him!)
[13:39] <facundobatista> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/823284
[13:39] <facundobatista> he went to the bug, but he didn't see the comments!
[13:40] <facundobatista> (he sent me a screenshot, because I didn't believe him :p )
[13:40] <facundobatista> the report is public, so it was very strange
[13:40] <facundobatista> he tried then with http://, and he saw the comments ok
[13:40] <facundobatista> is this expected?
[14:31] <hikiko> hello
[14:31] <hikiko> I have a question: I ve created a branch in launchpad
[14:32] <hikiko> and when I am trying to commit to this branch using bzr
[14:32] <hikiko> I get the following error:
[14:32] <hikiko> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-92449424:///%2Bbranch/stellarium/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport
[14:32] <hikiko> do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? :)
[14:33] <Peng> bzr launchpad-login?
[14:33] <Peng> Possibly?
[14:33] <hikiko> i did this
[14:34] <hikiko> already
[14:38] <tsimpson> hikiko: what command are you using?
[14:39] <hikiko> tsimpson: bzr commit -m "mpla mpla"
[14:40] <tsimpson> at a guess, I think it's using http rather than bzr+ssh, and http is read-only access
[14:41] <hikiko> and how can i change this?
[14:41] <tsimpson> I'm not entirely sure, but #bzr should be better able to provide support
[14:42] <hikiko> ok :) I ll ask there too thank you very much :)
[14:59] <ScottK> Is there a way to set permissions on a branch in LP so two people can push to it without making a team?
[15:05] <YokoZar> I'm trying to solve a mystery here...I see a comment in launchpad bug as having been imported from upstream bugzilla but there is no such comment in upstream bugzilla.
[15:06] <YokoZar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/371897/comments/423
[15:06] <YokoZar> If you click through to Wine Bugzilla from that link and search for that comment, you won't find it
[15:14] <sladen> gmb et al:  Could somebody help me track down the source behind:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ivan1986/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=ubuntu-font-replace&field.status_filter=
[15:15] <sladen> it states "Removed files can still be downloaded from the Librarian; see below. "  but there's little/nothing to see below
[15:18] <bigjools> sladen: it was deleted more than 2 weeks ago so the files get removed completely after than
[15:19] <bigjools> that*
[15:19] <bigjools> the "Removed files" text needs fixing
[15:37] <sladen> bigjools: ta  https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/823359
[16:34] <gour> i'm pushing one branch (~3500 revs) to LP, and the process is slow as hell...any problems with Lp?
[17:27] <fredo> Hi! I’m hosting a small project on launchpad, now I’m curious where I could provide some information on the project.
[17:28] <fredo> Launchpad doesn’t have a built-in wiki itself, like other hosting platforms do.
[17:28] <X3lectric> create a wiki page via lauchpad use a blog use your imagination
[17:28] <fredo> So is there a recommended place where to put additional info?
[17:28] <X3lectric> ah lauchpad does have wiki
[17:29] <fredo> It does? Must have overlooked that all the years I’ve been using it.
[17:29] <fredo> X3lectric: thanks.
[17:30] <fredo> Just where do I find it?
[17:32] <RenatoSilva> create a wiki page via lauchpad?
[17:33] <RenatoSilva> LP's wiki is for Launchpad, it's not available for projects
[17:33] <gour> there is bug about it...it has become activated some time ago...
[17:34] <RenatoSilva> there's some bug/blueprint/brainstorm on that but afaik not implemented yet
[17:34] <gour> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/240067
[17:34] <RenatoSilva> gour: I can't see wiki/doc option in projects
[17:35] <RenatoSilva> in progress
[17:35] <gour> RenatoSilva: there are not...i believe i'd just use http://readthedocs.org for the project
[17:36] <gour> i like bzr and the rest of LP...until there will be some wiki
[17:36] <X3lectric> fredo I dont like being a search engine prostitute but here u go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750642
[17:37] <RenatoSilva> gour: oh the web jungle...
[17:37] <gour> otoh, i'm worried why my push to LP is going on for more then 6hrs :-/
[17:38] <fredo> X3lectric: thanks for making an exception. :-)
[17:39] <X3lectric> wait I did mention prostitution so pay UP
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> gour: 6 hours!
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> fredo: you dont understand
[17:40] <X3lectric> fredo: what is your project
[17:40] <gour> RenatoSilva: yup :_/
[17:40] <RenatoSilva> fredo: no, you don't
[17:40] <X3lectric> wth?
[17:40] <fredo> X3lectric: Maybe I’m completely stupid, but aren’t they using pages on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[17:40] <RenatoSilva> fredo: read the url, read the topic, THAT'S NOT FOR YOUR PROJECT's WIKI
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> fredo: that is the UBUNTU wiki
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> fredo: create a wiki page in the topic means a wiki page about YOU
[17:41] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I didn’t say anything different.
[17:41]  * gour killed his push
[17:41] <X3lectric> omg
[17:41] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I think you are arguing with the wrong guy.
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so you're willing to create random pages there for your LP project
[17:41] <X3lectric> it even gives you wiki expamples
[17:42] <X3lectric> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Silver_Fox
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: OF PERSONAL wiki pages, NOT PROJECT pages?
[17:42] <X3lectric> soo you guys either read up or start making sense
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> gour and X3lectric read the bug 240067
[17:43] <X3lectric> [18:27] <fredo> Hi! I’m hosting a small project on launchpad, now I’m curious where I could provide some information on the project.
[17:43] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I was just asking where I could create a page on my project, not that I was planning to use wiki.ubuntu.com.
[17:43] <X3lectric> is it not so dissimilar
[17:43] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: that's not the proper page
[17:43] <gour> X3lectric: you can't at LP...simple like that
[17:44] <RenatoSilva> fredo: that's not the proper page, it's the UBUNTU wiki not you project's wiki. READ THE BUG PLEASE?
[17:44] <gour> X3lectric: except small text on the overview
[17:44] <X3lectric> dud its use you imagination
[17:44] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I really don’t understand why you are shouting at me.
[17:44] <RenatoSilva> sorry I mean *fredo* and X3lectric read the bug 240067
[17:45] <X3lectric> just cause its personal you dont have to be restricted by the info posted there
[17:45] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Yes, I read the bug.
[17:45] <RenatoSilva> fredo: I don't understand why are you accepting that as an answer to your question
[17:45] <fredo> Am I?
[17:46] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so the answer is currently there's no place to put project's documentation
[17:46] <RenatoSilva> fredo: if you want to create your project pages on that wiki, good luck for you
[17:46] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Yes, I think I did understand that.
[17:46] <X3lectric> RenatoSilva: read #bug 0800useyourimagination
[17:47] <fredo> RenatoSilva: No I have to shout back: I NEVER SAID I WAS USING wiki.ubuntu.com FOR MY PROJECT!
[17:47] <RenatoSilva> fredo: I use LP for my project more for development and support
[17:47] <RenatoSilva> fredo: neither did I say you were
[17:48] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Okay, so there is no problem. :-)
[17:48] <fredo> But thanks for the information.
[17:48] <RenatoSilva> fredo: that's a problem with LP as imo it's supposed to be a project hosting site just like SF.net
[17:48] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so a wiki would really be welcome
[17:49] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Yes, totally.
[17:49] <RenatoSilva> fredo: mark that bug as affecting you
[17:49] <fredo> I’ll do.
[17:49] <X3lectric> well the powers that eb already say its all free so cause its free it has to suck
[17:50] <X3lectric> me I would adpat the personal wiki and mod the hell out to cover that gap, or alternatively use wordpress
[17:51] <X3lectric> fredo: so after all this tstetrozone whats your project about
[17:51] <RenatoSilva> fredo: as my projects in LP are wiki engine plugins, their wiki pages and frontend is on the own wiki-engine website
[17:51] <fredo> X3lectric: It’s a speech synthesis frontend.
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> fredo: while it's not implemented, it's a jungle of options
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> fredo: nice
[17:52] <fredo> X3lectric: It’s part of a larger project to build a speech generating device using Ubuntu.
[17:52] <X3lectric> ah
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> *are in
[17:53] <X3lectric> sounds like something youd use if you wnated to create a AI
[17:53] <X3lectric> or replace the hawkins dude
[17:53] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so it's somewhat part of ubuntu?
[17:54] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I discussed that on #ubuntu-offtopic, but they tend to regard it not related to Ubuntu.
[17:54] <RenatoSilva> fredo: oh I see, "using" Ubuntu
[17:54] <X3lectric> all these rules
[17:54] <fredo> Yes, difficult.
[17:55] <RenatoSilva> fredo: the pages I've seen there in the ubuntu wiki are ubuntu-related, for example you find grub documentation there, but grub is included in ubuntu
[17:55] <X3lectric> its like moving bakck with your parents
[17:55] <tsimpson> -> using Ubuntu does not mean part of the Ubuntu project
[17:55] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: why
[17:55] <X3lectric> why?
[17:55] <X3lectric> watch
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> tsimpson: yeah
[17:56] <X3lectric> lol
[17:56] <fredo> tsimpson: I just don’t know what actually makes something part of the ubuntu project.
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: parents returning
[17:56] <X3lectric> im just waiting
[17:56] <tsimpson> fredo: if it's part of the project itself, not just using the product
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> fredo: if it's included in ubuntu
[17:57] <tsimpson> documentation goes on help.u.c, wiki.u.c is mostly for teams (community)
[17:57] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric:  its like moving back with your parents. How so?
[17:57] <X3lectric> what fredo means its using the ubuntu framework and delivery
[17:57] <fredo> Okay, then I’ll push hard for inclusion in Ubuntu if that gets me a wiki page. ;-)
[17:57] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: waiting?
[17:57] <X3lectric> RenatoSilva: when you say lol
[17:57] <fredo> If they ever complete that page on the dev.ubuntu.com guide
[17:57] <X3lectric> usually thers a big hammer
[17:57] <tsimpson> "The purpose of this wiki is for information on contributing to Ubuntu and the coordination of teams working on Ubuntu."
[17:58] <RenatoSilva> help.u.c, wiki.u.c?
[17:58] <tsimpson> so it's not stuff that just uses Ubuntu, but things that are part of Ubuntu
[17:58] <tsimpson> RenatoSilva: expand "u.c" to "ubuntu.com"
[17:58] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: I don't understand you. Never mind
[17:59] <X3lectric> how u trigger the bot?
[17:59] <X3lectric> ? lol
[17:59] <X3lectric> ! lol
[17:59] <X3lectric> THERE you go
[18:00] <X3lectric> RenatoSilva: undderstand now
[18:00] <RenatoSilva> tsimpson: hmm help seems not a wiki, right?
[18:00] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: absolutely no
[18:01] <RenatoSilva> X3lectric: are you a random messages bot?
[18:01] <X3lectric> no but look at the tone
[18:01] <tsimpson> RenatoSilva: help.ubuntu.com is also a wiki (well, everything under /community), but it's specifically for documentation/support
[18:01] <RenatoSilva> fredo: look, there's a problem with project and documentation
[18:02] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Yes, I agree.
[18:02] <RenatoSilva> fredo: how to map a given doc to the matching version?
[18:02] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so I tend to think of keeping the docs in the own repo as a good idea
[18:02] <X3lectric> nm
[18:03] <RenatoSilva> fredo: problem is converting it to wiki pages or editing raw wiki pages...
[18:03] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I’m not really planning to provide user documentation, rather developer docs and background information.
[18:04] <fredo> RenatoSilva: For user documentation, one can use a help system built into the software.
[18:05] <nigelb> g32
[18:05] <RenatoSilva> fredo: the advantage of online help for users is that the docs are always up-to-date, not requiring to update the package all the time for making sure the doc is the latest
[18:06] <RenatoSilva> fredo: but it's not really a oooooh issue I think
[18:06] <RenatoSilva> *an
[18:06] <fredo> RenatoSilva: probably.
[18:07] <RenatoSilva> fredo: if the docs won't be too big/complex, have you ever considered just using text files in the repo?
[18:07] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Sure, that would also work. Just not as representative.
[18:08] <RenatoSilva> fredo: for example, mines are that way, a single text file as there's nothing much to say about it
[18:08] <RenatoSilva> fredo: html is annoying, because of editing it
[18:09] <RenatoSilva> fredo: it would be nice if you could edit in some office suite or some other editor and from there generate pdf/html/wiki
[18:10] <RenatoSilva> fredo: you can with libreoffice, but I don't think it's good at html exporting and pdfs are binary
[18:10] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I sometimes use reStructuredText and export HTML and PDF (via LaTeX) from it.
[18:11] <fredo> RenatoSilva: And it’s also readable just as plain text.
[18:12] <RenatoSilva> fredo: just like wiki pages
[18:13] <fredo> RenatoSilva: right.
[18:13] <RenatoSilva> fredo: what's the relation between it and LaTex?
[18:13] <RenatoSilva> fredo: why would LaTex read non-LaTex docs?
[18:14] <fredo> RenatoSilva: rst can output LaTeX files from which you can generate PDFs.
[18:18] <RenatoSilva> fredo: oh I see
[18:19] <RenatoSilva> fredo: you may find this appropriate: http://moinmo.in/ReStructuredText
[18:20] <RenatoSilva> fredo: MoinMoin is the wiki engine under ubuntu and launchpad wikis
[18:20] <fredo> RenatoSilva: I see.
[18:20] <RenatoSilva> fredo: and probably will be the on for LP projects
[18:22] <RenatoSilva> fredo: so if you're confident with plain-text editing of RST, you could maintain the docs versioned and synced with your code, and when publishing, just put them in LP (if hopefully they implement some import feature :) )
[18:22] <RenatoSilva> *the one
[18:22] <fredo> RenatoSilva: Yes, sounds like a good idea.
[18:24] <RenatoSilva> fredo: would be even better if they could track some tag pattern from your repo and import them into the wiki. That is, the wiki is automated!
[18:25] <RenatoSilva> fredo: they could also allow users edit or propose edits to the wiki pages so they're merged into your code if you accept it :)
[18:25] <RenatoSilva> I think it'd be something similar with translations (.po files)
[18:25]  * RenatoSilva 's foolish dreamings
[18:26] <RenatoSilva> *with they do with translations
[18:27] <RenatoSilva> *similar to what they do with translations
[19:28] <Delemas> I'm trying to backport packages to Hardy. Launchpad keeps complaining "Source format '3.0 (quilt)' not supported by target series hardy" even though I believe my PPA has the packages to support this (quilt, dpkg, debhelper). How can I get my backports to build through launchpad?
[20:00] <komputes> SPAM detected: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/59867/comments/129
[20:14] <benji> komputes: I've hidden the comment in question, please file a question so we can contact the user and tell them that their email has been compomised
[20:25] <komputes> benji: is that the peocess, launchpad answers?
[20:25] <komputes> process*
[20:25] <lifeless> yes
[20:25] <lifeless> 'support' in the channel topic :)
[20:26] <benji> komputes: yep; if it were just hiding the comments than something lighter weight would work, but we want to contact the poor soul so they stop spamming
[20:26] <komputes> benji: users should have spam karma ;)
[20:26] <komputes> hidden, but still indicative of how many hidden comments they have
[20:26] <benji> heh
[20:27] <komputes> benji: sure, if you need me to do it, give me the URL and I'll post a question
[20:27] <benji> komputes: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:29] <cody-somerville> Maybe there should be a checkbox when hiding a comment that toggles sending the user a notification automatically with a prewritten explanation (e.g. 'Your comment on x below has been hidden by a Launchpad administrator. In most cases, this is due a, b, c reasons. Please see http://... for more information.')
[20:30] <komputes> cody-somerville: flagging for review is a good idea
[20:32] <lifeless> there are bugs for that ;)
[20:55] <doko_> jelmer, lifeless: gcc import ping
[20:56] <doko_> any estimate on the regular imports?
[20:59] <ondrej> is it just me or the ppa uploads are broken? (550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.)
[21:01] <lifeless> doko_: sorry, I don't know what you're referring to ?
[21:01] <lifeless> ondrej: bug 798957
[21:14] <doko_> lifeless, bug #797915
[21:15] <doko_> one month silence for a critical bug seems to be odd
[21:15] <lifeless> doko_: we have 240 critical bugs and 20 engineers
[21:44] <ondrej> lifeless, ubot5: thanks, I see now
[23:32] <lifeless> poolie: hi
[23:33] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/bugs/798957 was mentioned by doko earlier
[23:33] <lifeless> bah
[23:33] <lifeless> not that one
[23:33] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/bugs/797915
[23:33] <lifeless> that one
[23:33] <lifeless> it seems to have gone quiet - a month with no update; I'm curious if its still actively being worked on?
[23:36] <lifeless> (I ask because doko mentioned it being important to linaro; I do have confidence in due process happening... but I promised to enquire :P)
[23:38] <jelmer> lifeless, there was some progress on it today
[23:39] <lifeless> jelmer: oh excellent
[23:40] <jelmer> lifeless: fetching all revisions referenced by tags is no longer the default, it's now optional (and defaults to false)
[23:40] <jelmer> lifeless: I'll see about getting that fix onto Launchpad, though not tonight :)