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| riddler | I remember someone was asking they installed LibreOffice but when they open the program it looks like windows 98'ish, I found a way to integrate it to lubuntu so it has the skin. | 04:13 |
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| riddler | just install the libreoffice-gtk plugin on synaptic package manager. | 04:14 |
| Landon | I've had a problem with my Lubuntu install for the past two releases (or more, not sure, but it's been happening since I first installed lubuntu) | 04:38 |
| Landon | has anyone else here experienced fonts being broken in lxterm? | 04:38 |
| Landon | lxterminal* | 04:39 |
| jmarsden | Landon: "broken" is unclear and perhaps subjective... what do you do to lxterminal, and what happens that you are calling "broken" ? | 04:40 |
| Landon | in the process of taking a screenshot | 04:40 |
| jmarsden | I can change fonts and font sizes without any obvious issues here... | 04:40 |
| Landon | basically, bits of the letter/number are missing | 04:40 |
| jmarsden | I've not seen that, but it could depend on which font and which size you are selecting? | 04:41 |
| jmarsden | Does it happen to you for all fonts in all sizes? | 04:42 |
| Landon | (is there no screenshot type utility with lubuntu?) | 04:43 |
| Landon | let me try switching though | 04:43 |
| Landon | I was using Bitstream Vera Sans Roman at size 10 | 04:44 |
| phillw | bug 623052 | 04:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 623052 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wifi driver crash on HP Envy 14" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623052 | 04:44 |
| jmarsden | Just specify exactly the steps to reproduce the issue. You install Lubuntu 11.04. You log in, you click start -> accessories -> LXterminal. Then you switch to... OK... I'll try that font... | 04:44 |
| Landon | switched to Bitstream Vera Serif Roman, but now there's a new set of problems with some letters appearing far apart and some overlapping | 04:44 |
| phillw | bug 615236 | 04:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 615236 in Bazaar "'bzr reconcile' unsafe for stacked 2a? (ignores parent inventories)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615236 | 04:44 |
| * phillw grrr..... | 04:44 | |
| jmarsden | phillw: Are you typing random bug numbers? :) | 04:45 |
| phillw | jmarsden: nope, just not lp ones! http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lxde-maintainers/2011-April/000594.html | 04:45 |
| Landon | whoops, I mean Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Roman had the missing parts of letters | 04:46 |
| Landon | the other Bitstream Vera fonts have the spacing/overlap issues though | 04:46 |
| Unit193 | phillw: Like this debian bug 615236 | 04:46 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 615236 in lxde "Uses deprecated HAL" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/615236 | 04:46 |
| phillw | Unit193: possibly, but there is also a true-type font bug kicking about | 04:47 |
| phillw | whichj I think has been patched for oneric, but not older (exisiting) variants. | 04:47 |
| Unit193 | phillw: Just giving you the syntax for non-launchpad bugs | 04:47 |
| jmarsden | Landon: Those fonts do not seem to be in Lubuntu by default. So your steps to reproduce are missing "install such-and-such" which is a font package that contains them?? | 04:49 |
| Landon | like I said, this has existed on this laptop since 10.10 or 10.04, so I'm not sure what all I've installed | 04:50 |
| jmarsden | Landon: If you switch to something more standard like Monosapce 10 does everything look acceptable? | 04:51 |
| Landon | no, same problem | 04:51 |
| jmarsden | Landon: and again, when reporting bugs it *really* helps to provide a full set of steps to reproduce the issue... | 04:51 |
| jmarsden | Landon: OK. It's not something that happens to all Lubuntu installations; so either it relates to your video hardware/drivers or to your specific configuration on your machine, I would guess. | 04:53 |
| jmarsden | If phillw finds the relevant Truetype bug that might help out, too... | 04:53 |
| jmarsden | Landon: Do you get this effect if you boot the laptop from an Lubuntu LiveCD and test on that (very basic, standard) Lubuntu ? | 04:57 |
| Landon | no idea, I won't be able to test that though | 04:58 |
| jmarsden | You don't have an optical drive?? | 04:58 |
| Landon | not in this town :) | 04:58 |
| jmarsden | Can you create a live bootable USB stick and boot from that? | 04:58 |
| Landon | not unless lubuntu fits in 64mb | 04:59 |
| jmarsden | OK. Well, you have something to try next time you have access to a bootable CD or an empty 1GB or bigger USB stick :) | 05:01 |
| Landon | found an older screenshot of it, if you're interested in what the problem looks like | 05:01 |
| jmarsden | Landon: If you create a new user say landon2 and log in as that new user, do you still get the issue? | 05:01 |
| Landon | http://imgur.com/mUYEZ | 05:02 |
| jmarsden | That user would have a nice fresh default configuration... | 05:02 |
| Landon | ok, let me try that | 05:02 |
| jmarsden | Your screenshot shows transparency and stuff... that's not a standard Lubuntu configuration as far as I know :) | 05:04 |
| Landon | yeah, that would have been me playing with unity(?) on the same laptop | 05:05 |
| Landon | monospace 10 works on a fresh user | 05:06 |
| jmarsden | Then you misconfigured lxterminal for your real user... are you willing to wipe its config and start over (just lxterminal config, not any other programs)? | 05:06 |
| Landon | same with bitstream vera sans mono 10 | 05:06 |
| Landon | completely | 05:06 |
| Landon | ~/.config/lxterminal/ is what I'm looking for? | 05:08 |
| jmarsden | OK, try rm ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf | 05:08 |
| jmarsden | and then exit and re-run lxterminal | 05:08 |
| Landon | well, that worked, but what was the logic behind it? | 05:10 |
| Landon | the only font related part of that config is the name, right? | 05:10 |
| jmarsden | You had wrecked your lxterminal config, so kiling it forced lxterminal to regenerate a clean one... that was my logic :) | 05:10 |
| Landon | awesome, it works, that was the kind of fix I came here looking for | 05:13 |
| Landon | thanks | 05:13 |
| jmarsden | You're welcome :) | 05:13 |
| philipballew | is there a pre-made iso for ppc? | 05:42 |
| jmarsden | Of Lubuntu? Not yet, as far as I know. | 05:43 |
| Unit193 | Might be able to install lubuntu-core | 05:43 |
| philipballew | i see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1798792 but if there is a say community made one I would just use that | 05:44 |
| jmarsden | There's still not even an Alternate i386 ISO for 11.10 Alpha3, which is higher priority than ppc... | 05:44 |
| bioterror | mac users can use their precious OS X ;) | 05:44 |
| philipballew | but I got the laptop for free... osx is kinds lame | 05:45 |
| jmarsden | philipballew: If there is one, it hasn't yet found its way into phillw's collection of Lubuntu ISOs at http://phillw.net/ISOs/ | 05:45 |
| philipballew | if i made a instlation on a ppc laptop I could make an iso pretty easily I think | 05:46 |
| bioterror | install Debian PPC and some lxde packages | 05:46 |
| jmarsden | Go for it. I know someone locally who would be interested in an Lubuntu PPC ISO if one showed up... | 05:46 |
| bioterror | and get the theme stuff from lubuntu site ;) | 05:47 |
| philipballew | if phillw needed it I could play around with it | 05:47 |
| philipballew | maybe get something together | 05:47 |
| philipballew | get a coupple bug testers to test the iso | 05:48 |
| Unit193 | I have an old G3 that I think I could do a little testing on | 05:48 |
| philipballew | how hard is it to make an iso | 05:48 |
| bioterror | Unit193, it's old world mac? | 05:48 |
| * philipballew likes a challenge\ | 05:49 | |
| philipballew | its an ibook | 05:49 |
| Unit193 | bioterror: Not from what I understand | 05:49 |
| bioterror | Unit193, new world mac = iMac, or PowerMac G3 with the yosemite form factor and newer | 05:49 |
| bioterror | old world macs are those grey boxes | 05:49 |
| Unit193 | bioterror: Blue and clear white | 05:50 |
| bioterror | so that's a new world then | 05:50 |
| bioterror | you dont have to use Mac OS as a boot loader for linux :D | 05:50 |
| Unit193 | Yep, from what I understand | 05:50 |
| Unit193 | yaboot | 05:50 |
| philipballew | yaboot is what they use | 05:51 |
| philipballew | ! yaboot | 05:51 |
| philipballew | nothing... | 05:52 |
| jmarsden | !yaboot | 05:52 |
| Unit193 | !info yaboot | 05:52 |
| ubot5 | Package yaboot does not exist in natty | 05:52 |
| bioterror | !ppc | 05:52 |
| ubot5 | PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ | 05:52 |
| Unit193 | PPC only and ubot5 doesn't have those repos | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | philipballew: dpkg knows about it, ubot5 does not: | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | <dpkg> yaboot is the primary bootloader for New World Apple Macintosh, IBM RS/6000, IBM pSeries and IBM OpenPower machines. ybin (YaBoot INstaller) installs yaboot on to New World Power Macs (it's akin to /sbin/quik or /sbin/lilo). ybin can also create dual boot menus for GNU/Linux and Mac OS (X). HOWTO at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-howto.html . http://yaboot.ozlabs.org/ Not for Old Worlds, ask me about <quik>. | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | phillw claims I have the power to add new databases to DragonEyes on #lubuntu-offtopic, but I have not tried it yet... would be fun to add the ubot and dpkg factoid data to DragonEyes :) | 05:54 |
| philipballew | add a bio of yourself to the bot in case someone asks you anything it will say crazy things you do (possibly fictional) | 05:55 |
| philipballew | jmarsden, asside from an avid linux guru, also .....(insert crazy things that are not true) | 05:56 |
| philipballew | some channels do that\ | 05:56 |
| * jmarsden thinks he is quite crazy enough without needing to add fictional stuff :) | 05:58 | |
| * philipballew applauds jmarsden personal life accomplishments | 05:59 | |
| apanda_ | is there a way to change the defaultbrowser to midori in a central place? (eg for urls in lxterminal) | 10:07 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 11:29 |
| bioterror | lubuntu 11.10 alpha 3 farts blood with Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 | 11:30 |
| philipballew | what connection manager does lubuntu use. | 12:22 |
| philipballew | network manager or wicd? | 12:23 |
| bioterror | nm-applet | 12:23 |
| philipballew | alright. so sudo aptitude install nm-applet will install it | 12:24 |
| * philipballew is setting up a minimal system and building lxde on top | 12:25 | |
| bioterror | if you're not going to use vpn's or mobile phones as modem, go with the wicd | 12:25 |
| philipballew | alright. ill try it | 12:29 |
| ActionParsnip | hey guys | 14:22 |
| KM0201 | o/ | 14:27 |
| ActionParsnip | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/bluetooth.png | 14:27 |
| ActionParsnip | anyone getting that when running bluetooth-applet ? | 14:27 |
| * KM0201 looking | 14:27 | |
| KM0201 | hmm, i don't do bluetooth | 14:28 |
| ActionParsnip | happens in all themes too | 14:28 |
| ActionParsnip | oneiric | 14:28 |
| KM0201 | yeah, my first thought would be a problem with the theme.. but.. if it's on all of them. | 14:28 |
| ActionParsnip | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/742398 | 14:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 742398 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Missing icon for bluetooth applet" [Low,Fix released] | 14:30 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 14:34 |
| KM0201 | well, i guess that answers tha tquestion.. :) | 14:34 |
| KM0201 | ActionParsnip: did you see #10, that apparently "fixes" the problem? | 14:35 |
| ActionParsnip | yeah saw that but I'm using english | 14:35 |
| ActionParsnip | seems weird | 14:35 |
| KM0201 | oh ok | 14:36 |
| ActionParsnip | I'll just log a bug, it's not earthshattering | 14:37 |
| KM0201 | yeah. | 14:37 |
| KM0201 | "dogs and cats sleeping together.. mass hysteria!" | 14:38 |
| ActionParsnip | did y'all get this too: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jbkafmnknpfncneoiphgjeoccaibacmp?hc=search&hcp=main | 14:38 |
| ActionParsnip | makes Chrome integrate better with the blueness in Lubuntu | 14:38 |
| KM0201 | hmm, | 14:39 |
| KM0201 | hadn't tried that | 14:39 |
| KM0201 | not bad | 14:39 |
| KM0201 | i'm not usually much of a 'themer' though | 14:40 |
| ActionParsnip | Just thought I'd snoop around. Had some spare time | 14:41 |
| KM0201 | yeah | 14:41 |
| KM0201 | i haven't tried 11.10 yet | 14:41 |
| KM0201 | how's it coming along? | 14:41 |
| KM0201 | been so busy w/ NAS problems | 14:42 |
| ActionParsnip | Seems fine here but my hardware is super linux friendly :) | 14:43 |
| ActionParsnip | had the old slow mouse issue in the Alpha 2 which has gone so all is good | 14:43 |
| KM0201 | hmm, good | 14:45 |
| KM0201 | and yeah, my hardware is all linux friendly as well. | 14:45 |
| KM0201 | i was a bit concerned buying a enw laptop a few weeks ago, but.. i did some research, and came away perfect.. everything "just works" | 14:45 |
| KM0201 | webcam, sound, mic, 3D, etc. can't complain really | 14:46 |
| KM0201 | is there a way to substitute thunar, for PCMan? | 15:05 |
| KM0201 | i know w/ gnome, its pretty easy.. just not sure how to do it w/ lxde | 15:06 |
| phillw | jmarsden: DE is still poorly, my fix of the database did not work :( | 17:58 |
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| KM0201 | o/ | 22:57 |
| silverarrow | anyone who knows about grub errors? | 23:42 |
| KM0201 | grub is such a pita.. what is the error? | 23:43 |
| silverarrow | I have reinstalled lubuntu, seemingly successfully | 23:43 |
| silverarrow | I don't dare to the first update, because I have had repeated troubles with grub after | 23:44 |
| phillw | silverarrow: what problem with grup are you having? | 23:44 |
| phillw | *grub* | 23:45 |
| silverarrow | one of the messages I get is something about "line supported" something, or the hard drive is not detected properly | 23:46 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu will work fine as long as I don't do any updates | 23:46 |
| silverarrow | a bit weird | 23:46 |
| silverarrow | I spent a lot of time on this yesterday, and made a new atempt at it now | 23:47 |
| phillw | silverarrow: what version of lubuntu & what version of grub are you running? | 23:48 |
| silverarrow | maybe it's the hard drive, but I can't detect anything wrong | 23:48 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu 11.04, and everything default | 23:49 |
| silverarrow | from the CD, no updates yet | 23:49 |
| silverarrow | though it downloaded packages during install | 23:49 |
| phillw | tat may be a bug in the installer for 11.04, please try it with updates during install turned off. that way I can follow it better on a VM | 23:51 |
| phillw | *that* | 23:51 |
| silverarrow | thanks, I will try that, but darn many installations by now | 23:52 |
| silverarrow | so there's nothing I can do now? | 23:53 |
| phillw | silverarrow: we need to narrow down where the issue is. If you get a 'clean' 11.04 running we have a starting point. | 23:53 |
| silverarrow | ok, I will do it all over right now | 23:53 |
| phillw | silverarrow: indeed there is, we can force the system to re-install grub | 23:54 |
| silverarrow | though it takes forever, maybe tomorrow then | 23:54 |
| silverarrow | grub is pretty safe, the new version? | 23:55 |
| phillw | silverarrow: head over to http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 and pay attention to "good grub becomes bad grub" | 23:55 |
| phillw | silverarrow: grub is pretty good at recovering :) | 23:55 |
| silverarrow | It seems I have grub 2 | 23:56 |
| phillw | silverarrow: those are my notes... you will deffo have grub2 with 11.04 | 23:57 |
| phillw | follow through the track from there to the relevant parts of DRS305's tutorial | 23:58 |
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