=== JoeMaverickSett is now known as MavJS === xtrahi is now known as xtralo [04:13] I remember someone was asking they installed LibreOffice but when they open the program it looks like windows 98'ish, I found a way to integrate it to lubuntu so it has the skin. [04:14] just install the libreoffice-gtk plugin on synaptic package manager. [04:38] I've had a problem with my Lubuntu install for the past two releases (or more, not sure, but it's been happening since I first installed lubuntu) [04:38] has anyone else here experienced fonts being broken in lxterm? [04:39] lxterminal* [04:40] Landon: "broken" is unclear and perhaps subjective... what do you do to lxterminal, and what happens that you are calling "broken" ? [04:40] in the process of taking a screenshot [04:40] I can change fonts and font sizes without any obvious issues here... [04:40] basically, bits of the letter/number are missing [04:41] I've not seen that, but it could depend on which font and which size you are selecting? [04:42] Does it happen to you for all fonts in all sizes? [04:43] (is there no screenshot type utility with lubuntu?) [04:43] let me try switching though [04:44] I was using Bitstream Vera Sans Roman at size 10 [04:44] bug 623052 [04:44] Launchpad bug 623052 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wifi driver crash on HP Envy 14" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623052 [04:44] Just specify exactly the steps to reproduce the issue. You install Lubuntu 11.04. You log in, you click start -> accessories -> LXterminal. Then you switch to... OK... I'll try that font... [04:44] switched to Bitstream Vera Serif Roman, but now there's a new set of problems with some letters appearing far apart and some overlapping [04:44] bug 615236 [04:44] Launchpad bug 615236 in Bazaar "'bzr reconcile' unsafe for stacked 2a? (ignores parent inventories)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615236 [04:44] * phillw grrr..... [04:45] phillw: Are you typing random bug numbers? :) [04:45] jmarsden: nope, just not lp ones! http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lxde-maintainers/2011-April/000594.html [04:46] whoops, I mean Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Roman had the missing parts of letters [04:46] the other Bitstream Vera fonts have the spacing/overlap issues though [04:46] phillw: Like this debian bug 615236 [04:46] Debian bug 615236 in lxde "Uses deprecated HAL" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/615236 [04:47] Unit193: possibly, but there is also a true-type font bug kicking about [04:47] whichj I think has been patched for oneric, but not older (exisiting) variants. [04:47] phillw: Just giving you the syntax for non-launchpad bugs [04:49] Landon: Those fonts do not seem to be in Lubuntu by default. So your steps to reproduce are missing "install such-and-such" which is a font package that contains them?? [04:50] like I said, this has existed on this laptop since 10.10 or 10.04, so I'm not sure what all I've installed [04:51] Landon: If you switch to something more standard like Monosapce 10 does everything look acceptable? [04:51] no, same problem [04:51] Landon: and again, when reporting bugs it *really* helps to provide a full set of steps to reproduce the issue... [04:53] Landon: OK. It's not something that happens to all Lubuntu installations; so either it relates to your video hardware/drivers or to your specific configuration on your machine, I would guess. [04:53] If phillw finds the relevant Truetype bug that might help out, too... [04:57] Landon: Do you get this effect if you boot the laptop from an Lubuntu LiveCD and test on that (very basic, standard) Lubuntu ? [04:58] no idea, I won't be able to test that though [04:58] You don't have an optical drive?? [04:58] not in this town :) [04:58] Can you create a live bootable USB stick and boot from that? [04:59] not unless lubuntu fits in 64mb [05:01] OK. Well, you have something to try next time you have access to a bootable CD or an empty 1GB or bigger USB stick :) [05:01] found an older screenshot of it, if you're interested in what the problem looks like [05:01] Landon: If you create a new user say landon2 and log in as that new user, do you still get the issue? [05:02] http://imgur.com/mUYEZ [05:02] That user would have a nice fresh default configuration... [05:02] ok, let me try that [05:04] Your screenshot shows transparency and stuff... that's not a standard Lubuntu configuration as far as I know :) [05:05] yeah, that would have been me playing with unity(?) on the same laptop [05:06] monospace 10 works on a fresh user [05:06] Then you misconfigured lxterminal for your real user... are you willing to wipe its config and start over (just lxterminal config, not any other programs)? [05:06] same with bitstream vera sans mono 10 [05:06] completely [05:08] ~/.config/lxterminal/ is what I'm looking for? [05:08] OK, try rm ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf [05:08] and then exit and re-run lxterminal [05:10] well, that worked, but what was the logic behind it? [05:10] the only font related part of that config is the name, right? [05:10] You had wrecked your lxterminal config, so kiling it forced lxterminal to regenerate a clean one... that was my logic :) [05:13] awesome, it works, that was the kind of fix I came here looking for [05:13] thanks [05:13] You're welcome :) [05:42] is there a pre-made iso for ppc? [05:43] Of Lubuntu? Not yet, as far as I know. [05:43] Might be able to install lubuntu-core [05:44] i see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1798792 but if there is a say community made one I would just use that [05:44] There's still not even an Alternate i386 ISO for 11.10 Alpha3, which is higher priority than ppc... [05:44] mac users can use their precious OS X ;) [05:45] but I got the laptop for free... osx is kinds lame [05:45] philipballew: If there is one, it hasn't yet found its way into phillw's collection of Lubuntu ISOs at http://phillw.net/ISOs/ [05:46] if i made a instlation on a ppc laptop I could make an iso pretty easily I think [05:46] install Debian PPC and some lxde packages [05:46] Go for it. I know someone locally who would be interested in an Lubuntu PPC ISO if one showed up... [05:47] and get the theme stuff from lubuntu site ;) [05:47] if phillw needed it I could play around with it [05:47] maybe get something together [05:48] get a coupple bug testers to test the iso [05:48] I have an old G3 that I think I could do a little testing on [05:48] how hard is it to make an iso [05:48] Unit193, it's old world mac? [05:49] * philipballew likes a challenge\ [05:49] its an ibook [05:49] bioterror: Not from what I understand [05:49] Unit193, new world mac = iMac, or PowerMac G3 with the yosemite form factor and newer [05:49] old world macs are those grey boxes [05:50] bioterror: Blue and clear white [05:50] so that's a new world then [05:50] you dont have to use Mac OS as a boot loader for linux :D [05:50] Yep, from what I understand [05:50] yaboot [05:51] yaboot is what they use [05:51] ! yaboot [05:52] nothing... [05:52] !yaboot [05:52] !info yaboot [05:52] Package yaboot does not exist in natty [05:52] !ppc [05:52] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [05:53] PPC only and ubot5 doesn't have those repos [05:53] philipballew: dpkg knows about it, ubot5 does not: [05:53] <dpkg> yaboot is the primary bootloader for New World Apple Macintosh, IBM RS/6000, IBM pSeries and IBM OpenPower machines. ybin (YaBoot INstaller) installs yaboot on to New World Power Macs (it's akin to /sbin/quik or /sbin/lilo). ybin can also create dual boot menus for GNU/Linux and Mac OS (X). HOWTO at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-howto.html . http://yaboot.ozlabs.org/ Not for Old Worlds, ask me about . [05:54] phillw claims I have the power to add new databases to DragonEyes on #lubuntu-offtopic, but I have not tried it yet... would be fun to add the ubot and dpkg factoid data to DragonEyes :) [05:55] add a bio of yourself to the bot in case someone asks you anything it will say crazy things you do (possibly fictional) [05:56] jmarsden, asside from an avid linux guru, also .....(insert crazy things that are not true) [05:56] some channels do that\ [05:58] * jmarsden thinks he is quite crazy enough without needing to add fictional stuff :) [05:59] * philipballew applauds jmarsden personal life accomplishments [10:07] is there a way to change the defaultbrowser to midori in a central place? (eg for urls in lxterminal) [11:29] hmmm [11:30] lubuntu 11.10 alpha 3 farts blood with Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 [12:22] what connection manager does lubuntu use. [12:23] network manager or wicd? [12:23] nm-applet [12:24] alright. so sudo aptitude install nm-applet will install it [12:25] * philipballew is setting up a minimal system and building lxde on top [12:25] if you're not going to use vpn's or mobile phones as modem, go with the wicd [12:29] alright. ill try it [14:22] hey guys [14:27] o/ [14:27] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/bluetooth.png [14:27] anyone getting that when running bluetooth-applet ? [14:27] * KM0201 looking [14:28] hmm, i don't do bluetooth [14:28] happens in all themes too [14:28] oneiric [14:28] yeah, my first thought would be a problem with the theme.. but.. if it's on all of them. [14:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/742398 [14:30] Ubuntu bug 742398 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Missing icon for bluetooth applet" [Low,Fix released] [14:34] hmm [14:34] well, i guess that answers tha tquestion.. :) [14:35] ActionParsnip: did you see #10, that apparently "fixes" the problem? [14:35] yeah saw that but I'm using english [14:35] seems weird [14:36] oh ok [14:37] I'll just log a bug, it's not earthshattering [14:37] yeah. [14:38] "dogs and cats sleeping together.. mass hysteria!" [14:38] did y'all get this too: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jbkafmnknpfncneoiphgjeoccaibacmp?hc=search&hcp=main [14:38] makes Chrome integrate better with the blueness in Lubuntu [14:39] hmm, [14:39] hadn't tried that [14:39] not bad [14:40] i'm not usually much of a 'themer' though [14:41] Just thought I'd snoop around. Had some spare time [14:41] yeah [14:41] i haven't tried 11.10 yet [14:41] how's it coming along? [14:42] been so busy w/ NAS problems [14:43] Seems fine here but my hardware is super linux friendly :) [14:43] had the old slow mouse issue in the Alpha 2 which has gone so all is good [14:45] hmm, good [14:45] and yeah, my hardware is all linux friendly as well. [14:45] i was a bit concerned buying a enw laptop a few weeks ago, but.. i did some research, and came away perfect.. everything "just works" [14:46] webcam, sound, mic, 3D, etc. can't complain really [15:05] is there a way to substitute thunar, for PCMan? [15:06] i know w/ gnome, its pretty easy.. just not sure how to do it w/ lxde [17:58] jmarsden: DE is still poorly, my fix of the database did not work :( === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [22:57] o/ [23:42] anyone who knows about grub errors? [23:43] grub is such a pita.. what is the error? [23:43] I have reinstalled lubuntu, seemingly successfully [23:44] I don't dare to the first update, because I have had repeated troubles with grub after [23:44] silverarrow: what problem with grup are you having? [23:45] *grub* [23:46] one of the messages I get is something about "line supported" something, or the hard drive is not detected properly [23:46] lubuntu will work fine as long as I don't do any updates [23:46] a bit weird [23:47] I spent a lot of time on this yesterday, and made a new atempt at it now [23:48] silverarrow: what version of lubuntu & what version of grub are you running? [23:48] maybe it's the hard drive, but I can't detect anything wrong [23:49] lubuntu 11.04, and everything default [23:49] from the CD, no updates yet [23:49] though it downloaded packages during install [23:51] tat may be a bug in the installer for 11.04, please try it with updates during install turned off. that way I can follow it better on a VM [23:51] *that* [23:52] thanks, I will try that, but darn many installations by now [23:53] so there's nothing I can do now? [23:53] silverarrow: we need to narrow down where the issue is. If you get a 'clean' 11.04 running we have a starting point. [23:53] ok, I will do it all over right now [23:54] silverarrow: indeed there is, we can force the system to re-install grub [23:54] though it takes forever, maybe tomorrow then [23:55] grub is pretty safe, the new version? [23:55] silverarrow: head over to http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 and pay attention to "good grub becomes bad grub" [23:55] silverarrow: grub is pretty good at recovering :) [23:56] It seems I have grub 2 [23:57] silverarrow: those are my notes... you will deffo have grub2 with 11.04 [23:58] follow through the track from there to the relevant parts of DRS305's tutorial