[02:19] <h00k> I forget how to get Chanserv to set a topic for me
[02:19] <rww> h00k: /msg chanserv topic #channelname topic goes here
[02:19] <h00k> rww: oh yes
[02:19] <rww> I usually do /topic #channelname [tab key] to get the current topic, then prepend msg chanserv
[02:21] <elky> in xchat it doesn't give you topic, but rather a crapton of channel names to choose from
[02:21] <h00k> :(
[02:22] <rww> elky: I was assuming h00k was using a decent client.
[02:22] <h00k> irssi
[02:22] <rww> anyway, in pointy clicky land, op up, then use the topic editor textbox
[02:22] <h00k> I just /opme'd, /topic'd, and /deopme'd
[02:22] <h00k> in #ubuntu-us-wi
[02:22] <h00k> prior to asking
[02:23] <rww> it amuses me how #ubuntu doesn't know about sudoedit
[02:32] <funkyHat> rww: I didn't either until just now :P
[02:59] <rww> h00k: he sure told you
[03:00] <h00k> rww: apparently.
[03:00] <rww> wols is abrasive but generally accurate. I go back and forth on whether the latter overrides the former.
[03:02] <elky> I don't think we've had him stomp off in disgust because we wouldn't let him eviscerate a newbie for a while. Like a year at least I think.
[03:05] <rww> ah, a debianite. that explains a lot.
[03:05] <elky> yup
[05:17] <bazhang_> LjL2 ?
[05:18] <rww> they're multiplying!
[05:20] <Flannel> Someone must've fed him after midnight.
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[07:23] <Myrtti> Tm_T: you mean -ops
[07:24] <elky> where else is it?
[07:25] <jussi> fun morning this
[07:26] <elky> it's nowhere near a full moon either
[07:28] <Flannel> It's nearing the end of Summer
[07:29] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no, I think -irc is more suitable for discussing the purpose of of our irc channels in general (:
[07:29] <Flannel> Tm_T: That's not really congruent with the purpose of -ops vs -irc (seeing that #ubuntu is a core channel)
[07:30] <Flannel> but, in all honesty, $ANYWHERE-IT-WONT-BE-DISRUPTIVE is better than #ubuntu :)
[07:30] <Myrtti> Flannel: almost over here. 2,5 mo of school holidays is over this week
[07:31] <Flannel> Looks like GoodAD discovered vertical tab?
[07:32] <Myrtti> bad vibes
[07:33] <Myrtti> Modus Operandi...
[07:36] <Tm_T> Flannel: the purpose of our irc channels, #ubuntu included, is benefitical for larger audience than what we have in here, thus -irc (:
[07:36] <Tm_T> discussion of ...
[07:37] <Tm_T> but meh, both works
[08:06]  * elky wonders if a8nchs_burrito is the racist troll from freenode earlier
[08:06] <IdleOne> sure does appear he is headed that way
[08:07] <elky> they were PMing people with racist crap in spanish
[08:23] <jpds> Hmm, raro.
[10:23] <topyli> i recently removed BajaCalifornia from -ot because they provided a bit too much information about the contents of their rectum. they're back, might want to keep an eye
[10:24] <IdleOne> they are also in #u, quiet so far
[10:32] <knome> their rectum is quite so far?
[10:32]  * knome hides
[10:46] <Tm_T> quite?
[10:52] <Guest93855> Hello, I'm having a problem with sending to #ubuntu
[10:56] <ikonia> hello Guest93855
[10:57] <ikonia> Guest93855: I'm looking into your issue now
[10:57] <Guest93855> Thanks
[11:08] <ikonia> Guest93855: it appears your hostmask has been banned from #ubuntu
[11:08] <Guest93855> Can you fix it?
[11:09] <ikonia> Guest93855: do you know why you have been banned ?
[11:09] <Guest93855> I wasn't aware I was banned
[11:09] <Guest93855> The channel just says: == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu
[11:09] <ikonia> have you used any other nicknames ?
[11:09] <ikonia> Guest93855: correct, you cannot send because that hostmask has been banned
[11:10] <Guest93855> I don't use a defined nickname generally
[11:10] <Guest93855> used to use MarkShuttleworth but that's been registed now
[11:10] <Guest93855> *registered
[11:11] <ikonia> give me a moment to look into it
[11:12] <ikonia> have you ever used the nickname ubuntuGnuLinux
[11:12] <ikonia> my records suggest you have
[11:12] <Guest93855> I don't recall
[11:13] <Guest93855> What do your records show my hostname is banned for?
[11:13] <ikonia> do you recall being banned for giving "joke" advice such as apt-get install hackintosh
[11:13] <ikonia> then arguing with me and threatening to take your complaint to the council
[11:13] <Guest93855> Nope
[11:14] <ikonia> well, that is the reason
[11:14] <Guest93855> Could you please remove the ban?
[11:15] <ikonia> no, not at this time, as the user UbuntuGnuLinux has yet to resolve the issue,
[11:15] <Guest93855> Resolve the issue?
[11:15] <ikonia> yes, the one I just mentioned
[11:18] <ikonia> Guest93855: anything more I can help you with ?
[11:18] <Guest93855> I still don't understand... how am I meant to get unbanned?
[11:19] <ikonia> Guest93855: I suggest you try to think back when you have been using the nickname ubuntuGnuLinux
[11:19] <Guest93855> Are there any other ops who would know how to unban me?
[11:20] <ikonia> it was only a few days ago on the 01/08/2011
[11:20] <ikonia> Guest93855: I know how to unban you and I'm explaining to you
[11:20] <Guest93855> Possibly someone else on the same hostname, I don't recall using that nick
[11:21] <ikonia> that is possible, but doubtful
[11:21] <Tm_T> what ikonia says
[11:22] <Guest93855> Can you not just ban the specific user?
[11:22] <Guest93855> As I'm being affected at the moment
[11:22] <ikonia> I believe you are the same user
[11:23] <Guest93855> How long will the ban on the hostname last for?
[11:23] <Tm_T> until it's resolved, usually
[11:23] <ikonia> until the user UbuntuGnuLinux resolves it
[11:23] <Guest93855> How am I meant to resolve it?
[11:24] <ikonia> Guest93855: where are you connecting from ?
[11:27] <ikonia> Guest93855: hello ?
[11:30] <Guest93855> A uni network
[11:30] <ikonia> really ?
[11:31] <ikonia> which uni
[11:31] <Guest93855> I don't want to give out my personal information on IRC
[11:32] <ikonia> ok, then I guess we are done
[11:32] <Guest93855> I'm still having the same problem...
[11:32] <Guest93855> Have you changed something?
[11:32] <Myrtti> so Cambridge
[11:33] <ikonia> you will have the same problem, you are banned
[11:33] <Guest93855> Please could someone unban me?
[11:33] <ikonia> Guest93855: no, not at this time
[11:33] <Guest93855> Or let me know the procedure to get unbanned
[11:34] <ikonia> Guest93855: the proceedure is to resolve the issue with UbuntuGnuLinux
[11:35] <Guest93855> How can I do that?!
[11:35] <Guest93855> I can't resolve issues for a different user
[11:35] <Myrtti> you know
[11:35] <Guest93855> Is there someone else who could help?
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest93855: contact your uni admin
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest93855: explain the situation tot hem
[11:35] <ikonia> to them
[11:35] <Guest93855> I hardly think they'll be concerned with being banned from a single IRC channel
[11:35] <Myrtti> it's really very, very unlikely, that two people come from the same IP address, with the same intentions to our IRC channel, unless they either know each other from somewhere
[11:36] <Myrtti> so either you know the person who has been making trouble in our channels
[11:36] <Myrtti> or you are the same person
[11:36] <Myrtti> freenode is a relatively small network
[11:36] <Myrtti> you don't accidentally stumble in it
[11:38] <Guest93855> On a shared network it's perfectly possible to appear from the same IP
[11:39] <ikonia> Guest93855: then contact your uni and explain that abuse from within their uni has caused the whole of your uni to get banned from a main stream network channel
[11:40] <Myrtti> alternatively, we can send Graham Pullen some logs.
[11:40] <Guest93855> The easiest solution would be for you to unban the host and just ban specific usernames instead
[11:40] <ikonia> Guest93855: I'll lay my cards on the table a.) I don't believe your on a uni network b.) I believe you are the same person as ubuntugnulinux - so I'm not prepared to unban you
[11:40] <ikonia> Guest93855: no, the easiest situation is to leave it as is
[11:41] <Guest93855> ikonia: You're incorrect, but I'm fed up with this
[11:41] <Guest93855> You are very unhelpful
[11:41] <ikonia> ok,
[11:41] <Guest93855> Goodbyte
[11:41] <ikonia> good bye
[12:00] <Pici> bazhang: Please call for ! ops in -ot next time that happens.
[12:00] <ikonia> shamefully I was watching and didn't see it
[12:00] <Pici> I just turned on IRC and thats what I saw :(
[12:08] <topyli> i was half-watching the channel specifically for this user, but of course i was on the phone when that happened
[12:09] <topyli> sometimes the time is *just* right for trolling
[12:18] <rww> "11:10 < Guest93855> used to use MarkShuttleworth but that's been registed now" /me giggles
[12:19] <bazhang> Pici, at the mention of enema?
[12:19] <rww> ikonia: I think that was a bad attempt at a joke
[12:20] <ikonia> I hate people giving others bad advice
[12:20] <ikonia> oh
[12:20] <Pici> bazhang: use common sense, it was clearly offtopic and he gave no intention of stopping.
[12:20] <ikonia> randomly bashing microsoft may put a bad taste about it
[12:20] <bazhang> Pici, well, I suggested he stop, then went away for a bit. did not see what transpired after.
[12:21] <rww> ikonia: if you happen to be looking for a factoid, I'm fond of !behelpful :)
[12:21] <ikonia> ta
[12:21] <ikonia> he's talking to me in pm
[12:25] <Pici> :/
[12:26] <bazhang> * BajaCalifornia has quit (Quit: Bix Nood Muggafuggas!)
[12:26] <Pici> I'm going to have to agree with what theadmin said.
[12:26] <bazhang> quit message from #ubuntu
[12:26] <rww> bazhang: that quit message is familiar.
[12:26] <Pici> bazhang: he was trolling in #freenode earlier too
[12:26] <rww> oh, yes, that's AnalSplatter again.
[12:26] <bazhang> Pici, multiple channels in fact, surprised he did not get the kline
[12:47] <bazhang> terry_, hi, how may we help you
[12:52] <Pici> I've asked AlexDevilLX numerous times to take his support questions to #ubuntu
[12:53] <Pici> Yesterday (I think) he claimed that he was told to ask in -offtopic, but there was no record of anyone saying that to him in #u
[12:58] <Myrtti> hi terry_
[13:16] <terry_> ikonia: Are you here?
[13:16] <terry_> What is your problem?
[13:18] <ikonia> hello usr13
[13:18] <usr13> Yes, hello.  What is your problem?
[13:18] <ikonia> usr13: I was trying to ask you to consider the advice you where giving in #ubuntu (or comments) to be a bit more realistic
[13:19] <ikonia> you seemed intent on arguing this so I forwarded you to this channel
[13:19] <usr13> I said:  sudokill: Problem is, if you have a dual boot MS Windows / Linux, what happens is that sooner or later the MS Windows part get's neglected and ultimately takes up space for no reason.
[13:19] <usr13> No, YOU seemed to want to argue
[13:20] <ikonia> because it's nonsense
[13:20] <ikonia> windows doesn't take up space for no reason
[13:20] <ikonia> an unmaintained windows partition doesn't suddenly start eating space
[13:20] <usr13> Your argument was nonsense
[13:21] <ikonia> I'm sorry, but it's not
[13:21] <ikonia> telling people that unmaintained windows partitions will take up your space is not realistic
[13:21] <ikonia> it will take up no more/less space than a maintained system
[13:21] <usr13> Thats' not what I said.
[13:21] <ikonia> apologies then I had idea what you're trying to say beyond Windows will take up space on your hard disk
[13:22] <ikonia> and I still don't
[13:22] <ikonia> it was suggested you where trying to make some sort of joke, but I don't see it
[13:22] <usr13> sudokill: [IF you must dual boot]: I  recommend having Linux on a second HD, but I also recommend putting the bootloader on the primary drive.
[13:22] <ikonia> yes, I read that
[13:22] <usr13> That was the advise I gave:
[13:22] <ikonia> then you followed up with the line you pasted a minute ago
[13:23] <usr13> Yea i sure did and dont see anything wrong with it.  I did not advise anyone to do anything by that comment.
[13:23] <usr13> and it was not nonsense.
[13:23] <usr13> Your arguments were nonsense
[13:23] <ikonia> can you please explain to me how an unmaintained windows partition will take up space
[13:24] <usr13> can you explain to me how it would NOT take up space?
[13:24] <ikonia> usr13: it will take up the space you have allocated to it, because you want to dual boot,
[13:24] <usr13> Again, your arguments are nonsense
[13:24] <usr13> Yes, you are correct.
[13:24] <usr13> exactly
[13:25] <ikonia> so why is that a problem ?
[13:26] <usr13> ikonia: Obviously it is beyond your comprehension and I am unable to enlighten you.
[13:41] <popey> Uhm.
[13:41] <popey> I completely get what he's saying.
[13:41] <ikonia> I'm missing it then
[13:41] <popey> saying an unused windows install "takes up space" is not a daft thing to say
[13:42] <popey> "that thing over there that I bought but now no longer need is wasting space"
[13:42] <ikonia> why would it be unused if the user wants help dual booting
[13:42] <popey> is perfectly reasonable
[13:42] <popey> he didnt say that
[13:42] <popey> he was talking about the future
[13:42] <ikonia> what ?
[13:42] <popey> in the future it will become wasted space if you dont use it
[13:42] <ikonia> oh my word
[13:42] <popey> how is that not comprehensible?
[13:43] <ikonia> in that case he should also warn that an ubuntu partition is a waste of space
[13:43] <ikonia> as if you don't use it and just use the windows partition, it's a waste of space
[13:43] <popey> yes, thats true
[13:43] <popey> if you split the disk 50/50 and only use one half, the other half is wasted
[13:43] <ikonia> I didn't read it like that at all
[13:43] <ikonia> surly that's common sense
[13:43] <popey> yes
[13:43] <popey> but some people don't "get" it
[13:43] <ikonia> if you need 2 partitions for each OS, if you don't use the other that spsace is wasted
[13:44] <ikonia> I read it as not maintaining the windows partition will take up space
[13:44] <popey> I can now see why he left exasperated.
[13:44] <popey> no.
[13:44] <popey> here's my story..
[13:44] <popey> Eee 1008HA, came with windows, installed ubuntu (dual boot) split disk 50/50
[13:44] <popey> my wife no longer needs/uses windows
[13:44] <popey> so I have a disk which has 50% 'wasted' on XP
[13:44] <popey> I dont use it, neither does she
[13:44] <popey> ergo it's wasted space
[13:45] <ikonia> popey: totally see that
[13:45] <ikonia> here is the other guys story
[13:45] <ikonia> "I need help dual booting"
[13:45] <popey> sure I get his story
[13:45] <ikonia> "you do X Y Z, but unmaintained windows partition wates space"
[13:45] <ikonia> the guy wants two OS's
[13:45] <popey> it's just a side comment
[13:45] <ikonia> you didn't
[13:45] <popey> excuse me!?
[13:45] <ikonia> you didn't want two OS's
[13:46] <ikonia> so I can see why it would be wasted
[13:46] <popey> i did
[13:46] <popey> initially
[13:46] <ikonia> in the end
[13:46] <popey> hence my initial comment
[13:46] <ikonia> I see what you're saying, but it's just not appropriate to me, I'm fed up of people pushing peoplee off microsoft for no reason
[13:46] <popey> thats not what he was doing
[13:47] <popey> sheesh
[13:47] <Myrtti> he wasn't pushing Windows to anyone
[13:47] <ikonia> the guy wanted 2 OS's - it's not a waste
[13:47] <ikonia> sorry, I disagree
[13:47] <ikonia> I said pushing off microsoft
[13:47] <popey> ok, I dont seem to be able to articulate to you in words that you get.
[13:47] <popey> forget it
[13:47] <topyli> btw, can't you just turn the old windows partition into perfectly good storage?
[13:47] <ikonia> popey: you do, I understand what you're saying
[13:47] <popey> no, you clearly do not
[13:48] <ikonia> why would he want to ? he wants to dual boot
[13:48] <ikonia> popey: I do, I just disagree
[13:48] <popey> I am not continuing with this
[13:48] <popey> its pointless
[13:49] <ikonia> it would seem so
[13:50] <popey> perhaps if you took a moment to consider the other side rather than dismiss it out of hand because it doesn't fit with your view of what is and isnt the defintion of 'waste' then it might be easier to discuss.
[13:50] <ikonia> back at you
[13:50] <popey> I see both sides
[13:50] <popey> I just disagree with yours ☺
[13:51] <ikonia> yes, I know, and I disagree with yours
[13:51] <ikonia> I fully understnad what you're saying, I just disagree
[13:56] <h00k> I got this in my away log, I feel it should be noted
[13:56] <h00k> = 2011-08-08 23:55:13#ubuntu: <            wols > h00k: I love your BS !language when you don't catch  them all. that is the problem with censorship :)
[14:18] <y0rp2r> Hello, I'm having an issue with samba, Windows users can't connect. Currently banned from #ubuntu so thought I'd ask here
[14:18] <Myrtti> well, this isn't the place for support either. This place is for discussing events that led up to you being banned, getting it resolved and possibly removing your ban
[14:19] <y0rp2r> Where else is there to ask for support? #debian just said to use #ubuntu
[14:19] <Myrtti> they were correct
[14:19] <h00k> y0rp2r: there are forums, if you're not interested in getting unbanned
[14:19]  * y0rp2r sighs
[14:19] <y0rp2r> I asked to get unbanned earlier, I was told a different user with the same host needed to do something to get unbanned
[14:20] <y0rp2r> So essentially I'm stuck
[14:20] <h00k> @login
[14:20] <h00k> @btlogin
[14:22] <y0rp2r> I'll try on the forums instead I guess
[14:22] <Myrtti> y0rp2r: so where are you connecting from?
[14:22] <y0rp2r> I went through all this earlier with ikonia, he refused to unban me
[14:23] <y0rp2r> He said it was impossible to have two users on the same hostname
[14:23] <h00k> y0rp2r: Where are you connecting from?
[14:23] <Myrtti> well then
[14:23] <ikonia> y0rp2r: no I did not say it was impossible
[14:24] <y0rp2r> You believed it was not the case
[14:24] <ikonia> correct.
[14:24] <ikonia> y0rp2r: I put my cards on the table earlier about it
[14:24] <y0rp2r> Can I get unbanned so I can get some support?
[14:24] <h00k> y0rp2r: Where are you connecting from?
[14:25] <ikonia> I'm not going to do it at this time for the reasons I gave earlier, so I'll back away now
[14:25] <y0rp2r> Myrtti: Could you please unban me? I just want some help
[14:26] <y0rp2r> Unless you can help with samba yourself
[14:26] <Myrtti> y0rp2r: if you are the same person that discussed the ban earlier with ikonia, then I don't remove the ban
[14:26] <jpds> y0rp2r: You appear to be just dodging our questions.
[14:26] <y0rp2r> I don't wish to give out my location
[14:26] <y0rp2r> I value my privacy
[14:26] <y0rp2r> This isn't facebook
[14:26] <Myrtti> y0rp2r: you realise that we pretty much know it already?
[14:26] <y0rp2r> What, from an IP lookup? Why would you be asking then?
[14:27] <Myrtti> y0rp2r: because the information you are giving us here is different than what we think it is
[14:27] <h00k> y0rp2r: It directly pertains to if 'you have the same hostname as someone else,' etc.
[14:28] <y0rp2r> This has to be the most unhelpful IRC channel I've ever encountered
[14:28] <y0rp2r> I just want to receive support
[14:29] <Myrtti> if you yourself want to receive support, why have you been previously, with other nicknames, trolling and being an annoyance?
[14:30] <y0rp2r> I have never trolled
[14:30] <Myrtti> well if you really are the same person who discussed their ban earlier with ikonia, they have used other nicknames associated with trolling
[14:30] <y0rp2r> If you let me into #ubuntu I will just ask my question and levae
[14:30] <y0rp2r> I have no interest in trolling
[14:31] <Myrtti> I see a gap in the logic
[14:31] <h00k> y0rp2r: I was only trying to ask where you're connecting from, in an effort to help understand the issue.
[14:32] <Myrtti> you are not interested in trolling, but you claim to be the same person who has discussed this ban earlier with ikonia, and that person while discussing the ban with ikonia, admitted guilt in using a nickname that we now associate with trolling
[14:32] <Myrtti> so what has changed?
[14:33] <y0rp2r> Admitted guilt? I refute that
[14:33] <y0rp2r> Do you have a log?
[14:33] <Myrtti> your brother used your computer?
[14:33] <y0rp2r> Now you want personal details of all my family! What are you, a data collector?
[14:34] <Myrtti> admitted guilt of, not admitted guilt in, sorry
[14:35] <Myrtti> "my brother used my computer while I was away" just happens to be the oldest excuse in the book when people come in here after someone from their IP has been making trouble in our channels with their nickname
[14:35] <y0rp2r> No, my brother (if indeed I have one) was not using my computer
[14:35] <y0rp2r> What trolling caused my host to be banned then?
[14:36] <ikonia> y0rp2r: I'm going to interput for a second.
[14:36] <ikonia> y0rp2r: I'm sorry to say that the connection you are using has been used for trolling with multiple nick names
[14:36] <ikonia> y0rp2r: we've had to take the step of banning the connection due to the abuse it's getting
[14:37] <ikonia> y0rp2r: we can't remove that ban as it will allow the problem users to start again, so you need to talk to your admin team to resolve it
[14:37] <y0rp2r> What are they meant to do?
[14:37] <ikonia> y0rp2r: secure their network to stop people abusing it,
[14:38] <ikonia> y0rp2r: either way, we can't let the #ubuntu channel have problems from your ocnnection any more, sorry.
[14:39] <y0rp2r> How can you secure a network against IRC trolling? That is impossible
[14:39] <ikonia> y0rp2r: then that's an end to it
[14:40] <ikonia> y0rp2r: it will have to stay as it is. Sorry.
[14:40] <y0rp2r> I wish to raise this with a different OP if you're not going to help
[14:40] <ikonia> y0rp2r: I'm trying to help and explain the situation
[14:40] <y0rp2r> The only thing you can do to help is revoking the ban
[14:41] <ikonia> y0rp2r: or you could accept the reality that the network you are on is causing a problem, speak to your network admin
[14:41] <y0rp2r> Could you explain how a network admin can stop a user on IRC trolling?
[14:42] <ikonia> y0rp2r: they can stop that user from using the network when a problem is reported
[14:42] <ikonia> y0rp2r: but either way - that is not our issue,
[14:42] <ikonia> y0rp2r: the bottom line is, your connection is a problem thanks to it's user/users - it's banned
[14:42] <ikonia> y0rp2r: I'm sorry we can't help any more
[14:43] <y0rp2r> Are you not aware you can ban a specific nickname rather than the hostmask?
[14:43] <y0rp2r> Please just ban the originanl user
[14:43] <y0rp2r> *original
[14:43] <h00k> y0rp2r: If you need other places to ask for help, there are the Ubuntu Forums, there's askubuntu.com (Stack Exchange)
[14:43] <ikonia> y0rp2r you've already told us you use different nicknames, so a nick based ban would not help
[14:43] <h00k> y0rp2r: Are you aware that leaves us chasing a user that just changes their nickname everytime they abuse the channel?
[14:44] <y0rp2r> ikonia: Yes it would, as I haven't trolled
[14:44] <y0rp2r> h00k: Seems fairer than banning innocent users
[14:44] <ikonia> y0rp2r: other (if you say so) are and using differnt nicknames, so it wouldn't help
[14:44] <ikonia> y0rp2r: look - it's not going to change, and I'm sorry, others have given you other support options
[14:45] <y0rp2r> Ok, seems you're not going to help. I shall use the forums, and hope they aren't so ban happy
[14:45] <ikonia> ok
[14:45] <ikonia> thank you
[14:45] <h00k> y0rp2r: I hope you're able to find an answer. We're sorry your connection is abused.
[14:46] <y0rp2r> That's ok, it's not your fault
[15:16] <ikonia> hello usr13
[15:17] <ikonia> ahhhhh
[15:18] <jrib> ikonia: I thought we agreed you'd hide in the back so as not to scare people away!
[15:18] <ikonia> I've pm'd him to ask him to rejoin to sort it out
[15:18] <ikonia> he parted before I'd finished typing
[17:30] <Pici> You can lead a horse to water....
[17:30] <genii-around> Then he'll buck you off in the rapids
[18:37] <Stockholm_Angel> hi i NEED to as how to remove all programmes i installed since i installed ubuntu
[18:37] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: this isn't the support channel, but this the place to discuss your ban in #ubuntu
[18:38] <Stockholm_Angel> h00k, im banned from ubuntu
[18:38] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: do you know why you were banned?
[18:38] <Stockholm_Angel> not obaying the rules
[18:38] <Stockholm_Angel> BUT
[18:38] <Stockholm_Angel> i have been banned for over a month
[18:38] <h00k> !guidelines | Stockholm_Angel
[18:39] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: take a bit to review these, while I look up your ban.
[18:39] <Stockholm_Angel> i posted a link and it was about rioting or something
[18:39] <Stockholm_Angel> i am sincerly sorry
[18:40] <h00k> Stockh/14
[18:40] <h00k> bah.
[18:41] <Stockholm_Angel> I mean warning people so they stayed safe
[18:41] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: You understand why we cannot have people with offtopic conversations in the massively-active support channel, yse?
[18:41] <h00k> *yes
[18:41] <Stockholm_Angel> i was meant to post in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:41] <Stockholm_Angel> i thought i had posted it in the offtopic
[18:41] <Stockholm_Angel> i thought i had posted it in the offtopic
[18:42] <Stockholm_Angel> for LjL2's benefit
[18:42] <Pici> Hes afk, no need to repeat things for him.
[18:44] <Stockholm_Angel> ok
[18:44] <Stockholm_Angel> falute
[18:44] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: also, before you're unbanned, we need to make sure you can properly use an IRC client to make sure you know what channel you're speaking in
[18:44] <Stockholm_Angel> i changed clients ad use xchat now not pidgin
[18:44] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: also, I need to be comfortable you understand the rules that we have governing our channels
[18:45] <Stockholm_Angel> yeah i do basicly be nice stay on topic and help people
[18:45] <h00k> kinda/sorta/basically.
[18:46] <Stockholm_Angel> i simplified my understanding for the benefit of the conversation
[18:46] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: please review the Code of Conduct as well, and then I will remove your ban.
[18:47] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: just note that it can be put back, rather quickly, so please mind them
[18:47] <h00k> ubottu: CoC | Stockholm_Angel
[18:48] <Stockholm_Angel> no one bothers about that when dealing with me
[18:48] <Stockholm_Angel> i mean in the past
[18:48] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: I'm not sure what you're referring to
[18:49] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: but I will remove it, please mind the proper channels for proper conversation
[18:50] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: Your ban is removed from #ubuntu, feel free to rejoin
[18:51] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: I see you joined okay.
[18:51] <h00k> Stockholm_Angel: please /part this channel, and good luck with your support
[19:38] <itilious> may I appeal a ban here for #ubuntu ?
[19:38] <itilious> i was banned for something I think may be able to be fixed if the situation is heard, please help who can, ty
[19:38] <jrib> itilious: yes, this is the right place
[19:38] <itilious> i had left my computer unlocked for a moment and my little brat cousin got on and was saying quite stupid things which ended in a ban
[19:39] <itilious> it will most definitely not happen again, can I be allowed to use #ubuntu again?
[19:39] <jrib> umm
[19:40] <itilious> sorry bout that,, please help when available :)
[19:41] <jrib> itilious: as long as you realize you are responsible for taking proper measures to prevent others from using your computer in the past, I will remove the ban
[19:41] <jrib> erm
[19:41] <jrib> future :P
[19:41] <itilious> i understand
[19:42] <jrib> !guidelines
[19:42] <itilious> and can promise it wont happen again, ty
[19:42] <jrib> itilious: take a few moments to familiarize yourself with those while I remove your ban please
[19:45] <itilious> awesome, thanks again jrib
[19:45] <jrib> itilious: have a good day :D
[19:47] <itilious> jrib, will it take time for server to see that i'm unbanned or must i do something else to join #ubuntu again?
[19:48] <jrib> itilious: try now
[19:48] <itilious> I apologize if simply seem like i'm rushing the process,
[19:48] <itilious> still cannot join
[19:48] <jrib> itilious: one second, there may be multiple bans
[19:50] <Pici> *!*@c-24-12-108-140.hsd1.il.comcast.net
[19:52] <jrib> itilious: try now
[19:53] <jrib> thanks Pici
[19:53] <itilious> works, ty jrib and everyone else who helped :)
[19:53] <itilious> good day to you all :)
[19:54]  * jrib was looking at wrong column in bt :)
[20:08] <Juest> test me
[20:09] <Pici> You're using the webchat.
[20:09] <Juest> and?
[20:09] <Pici> Juest: And it shouldn't be vulnerable. Are you having difficulty joining one of our channels?
[20:09] <Juest> @ #ubuntu-read-topic <FloodBot1> Juest: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[20:10] <Juest> nah just want to run test
[20:10] <Pici> Why?
[20:11] <Juest> no reason, i just want to run this test
[20:11] <Juest> also im banned frm #ubuntu
[20:11] <Pici> Its not going to magically unban you from the channel if you were banned by an operator.
[20:12] <Juest> lol ok
[20:12] <Juest> but that does not matter
[20:12] <Juest> i just want to run test
[20:13] <Pici> no.
[20:13] <Pici> whats wrong with people?
[20:13] <Pici> nevermind, don't answer that.
[20:13] <IdleOne> lack of vitamins I think
[20:15] <charlie-tca> solar flares!
[20:30] <IdleOne> @mark #ubuntu snapperss (~IdlePrick@124.6.226.150) join flooding.
[20:31] <IdleOne> !staff | please check snapperss (~IdlePrick@124.6.226.150) in #ubuntu, flooding.
[20:32] <marienz> IdleOne: it also tried it in ##windows right afterwards, so idoru got it already
[20:32] <IdleOne> cool
[20:32] <IdleOne> thanks
[21:49] <ikonia> photon: hello
[21:50] <photon> hi. just read the topic and already gone. sorry.
[21:50] <h00k> hookay.
[22:07] <Myrtti> what is Ramses_ about...
[22:07] <Myrtti> lastlog isn't nice
[22:08] <Myrtti> well, it isn't pretty
[22:08] <ikonia> Myrtti: you can help this guy - I don't believe what he's actually saying
[22:10] <ikonia> damn chanserv, slow
[22:18] <Myrtti> I have no idea
[23:00] <funkyHat> @btlogin
[23:01] <funkyHat> Why is that not working for me?
[23:08] <popey> @btlogin
[23:09] <popey> wfm ⍨
[23:09] <bazhang> thought castizo was banned
[23:09] <bazhang> * [Castizo] (~MuhDik@189.214.159.6.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx): MuhDik
[23:11] <Myrtti> well there is a plethora of trollish nicks on the channel anyway
[23:11] <h00k> huh.
[23:12] <Myrtti> I bid you good luck and good night
[23:19] <bazhang> castizo is clearly that GNAA troll of past. and there
[23:19] <bazhang> whoops
[23:19] <bazhang> there's a ban on him from yesterday in re: Analsplat
[23:19] <bazhang> so ban evading, yes?
[23:20] <h00k> bazhang: sounds right, yses
[23:20] <h00k> yes
[23:20] <bazhang> h00k, thanks
[23:22] <h00k> 18:22 <   [THC]AcidRain > hax are upon us
[23:22] <h00k> were they banned?
[23:23] <h00k> @btlogin
[23:23] <bazhang> sounds very familiar
[23:25] <h00k> ogramses - that took me like 5 straight minutes to read correctly.
[23:38] <jrib> haha... (after scanning the beginning of that sentence like 5 times)
[23:41] <funkyHat> Who do I need to speak to about not being able to access the bantracker? #ubuntu-bots?
[23:42] <bazhang> If I'm going to get blamed when -ot gets out of hand, I may as well apply for ops there
[23:45]  * jrib prepares bazhang's room in the insane asylum