[00:04] whats the recommended thing to use to expose an ubuntu server over iscsi (e.g. as backend storage for a cluster of vmware machines) [00:13] samba? [00:20] does anyone know how to configure an x346 servraid-7k controler? [00:36] lifeless, I dunno if I would do that using iscsi [00:36] as ief isn't that great [00:36] I stick with just nfs [00:37] Patrickdk: a friend of mine was asking... they are a windows shop, just getting their toes wet with Ubuntu [00:37] and vmware cluster? [00:37] Patrickdk: *shrug* :P [00:38] I dunno why you would spend all that money on vmware licensing to use a selfmade backend like that [00:38] good questions [00:39] ya, the only iscsi that is *in* ubuntu is ief, and it works, and does a good job [00:39] but isn't up to the job of vmware over substained usage [00:39] is the iscsitarget ief ? [00:40] oh, iet :) [00:42] Hi guys, at bit off-topic ... my monitor (Samsung P2370HD) just died ... wondering if some of you have shop for a monitor recently and have suggestions? (Looking for a monitor with Tuner + Speaker if possible) [00:44] lifeless, scst is suppost to work good :) [00:44] but you have to compile and patch and build yourself [00:45] Delerium_: I bought a new dell recently, 24" 1080p, its sweet [00:46] lifeless, do you have the model not so far away!? [00:46] Delerium_: no idea :) [00:46] the dell ones I use, are p2211h [00:46] lifeless, haha! I'll take a look, thanks [00:46] but no tuner [00:47] Thanks Patrickdk, will take a look too... [01:25] Had a headless machine that's been running fine for years, turns off when I issue a "poweroff" command, turns back on when I press the power button. But today, I hit the power button and it just wasn't coming back up, even after trying a few times; it wouldn't respond to ARP requests or anything. So an hour later, I finally got a console hooked up to it and it turns out it was at the GRUB menu just waiting for me to hit enter, not even a [01:25] "Will select default choice if no input after 5 seconds." Does anyone know why it would suddenly decide to require user input to boot? After manually booting it once, it seems to be fine again. [01:30] Ganymede: I've had that happen to me on several systes as well [01:30] not just ubuntu but debian as well [01:31] Hmm...it's very unfortunate. Would hate to have a large power-outage and then find out I have to run to tens of servers to manually boot them... [01:33] yea I konw what you mean [01:33] I've been looking for a solution but have not found one yet [01:34] Might be related to a hardware change. I did pop in a new drive before booting it back up but I never imagined that would cause it to not boot normally, even after the new hard disk was removed and the machines was powered on again. [01:35] Ganymede: it's not for me. [01:37] I'm curious about what is considered the "right" way of setting up an Ubuntu virtualization server. I recently tried Proxmox, but I'd like to use something that doesn't insulate me from what's happening so much. Also, Proxmox is based on pure Debian. I'd rather use Ubuntu as my OS. [01:38] It seems like the landscape (no pun intended) is dynamic right now, with KVM, OpenVZ, Eucalyptus, OpenStack (to name a few) all involved. === JoeMaverickSett is now known as MavJS === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === nzkoz_ is now known as nzkoz [02:36] hello [02:36] I have ubuntu-11.04-server-i386.iso , using jigdo can I download oneiric-server-i386.iso to save on bandwidth. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [04:17] New bug: #823046 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823046 [05:14] I'm looking to control mysql's logs a bit.. I was hoping there was some functionality I haven't been able to find yet to limit the information that is logged when the general log is enabled. [05:15] right now mysql logs everything fine, however the log files grow very fast when enabled(general_log), I really only want to log authentication.. in particular failed attempts [05:16] does anyone have any experience limited that output into the log? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [08:09] Help, cannot get 1 of my servers to connect to network. eth0/eth1 up, FW ports open,ok, all HW ok. [08:10] johna: you can ping to an ip? [08:12] memoryleak: no, I cannot ping from another sys, or from the router! everything on the srvr seem to be OK, but no connection. [08:15] memoryleak: server was working fine, had minor problem with raid lost a drive, replaced it everything seemed fine, installed smartctl and suddenly we cannot connect. [08:15] uhm, sounds bad [08:16] any messages in the syslog? [08:19] memoryleak: nothing!! I have looked every where I can think of for some hint of whats up, completely baffled!!! [08:21] In this cases I reboot and look at the messages on the screen first. If this doesn't contain any usable information I would try to for example wget *something* and see what wget says to you [08:21] or try the wget thing first [08:22] memoryleak: from inside the server everything looks OK, eth0/wth1 are recving packets, just the don't go anywhere, conection both inbound and out is blocked! [08:23] sure about the fw configuration? [08:31] memoryleak: I have set it to accept everything from everywhere, turned on logging - nothing shows up in any log. its as though there is disconnect between eth0 and the rest of the system! [08:31] memoryleak: ditto fot eth1 [08:32] what about routes? [08:32] memoryleak: Interesting point! [08:34] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html helps sometimes to get an idea what else could be the problem [08:37] * ogra_ tickles Daviey === med_out is now known as medberry [08:41] memoryleak: routes look fine, I'll take look at the debugging stuff again, see if I have missed something, but at this moment I am beginning to think reinstall!! [08:42] ptrace could help to figure out where exactly the error occours [09:14] What's the new ubuntu package management feature where you can script software profiles ? [09:20] hi guys [09:20] what is the preferred option for sendmail for Ubuntu servers? [09:20] sSMTP? [09:24] hi [09:24] does anyone know what the smallest footprint I can get Oneiric server down to is? [09:24] My installs are around 17GB at the moment [09:25] Need to be able to preseed [09:25] memoryleak: I'll give ptrace a try, but at the moment I am completely baffled, keepthinkingHW, but I have found I can ping some addresses, look like FW, but turning it off doesn't help???? [09:26] johna: What about /etc/resolve.conf? [09:27] <_ruben> CloudAche84: 17GB?? [09:27] sorry thats rubbish [09:27] it's less than that [09:27] hold on [09:28] <_ruben> ive intalled tons of systems on 2g flashdisks [09:28] hmm [09:28] <_ruben> and preseeding has nothing to do with sizes really [09:28] I think it is around 15GB actually [09:28] <_ruben> a standard server install takes about 1g [09:28] hmm [09:30] well I'm using the NetBoot image which downloads it's packages from gb.archive.ubuntu.com so there must be some preseed setting to tell it not to install too many packages [09:30] <_ruben> to get to 15G you install a ton of extra shit [09:30] <_ruben> you sure you install -server and not -desktop (tho even -desktop shouldnt be that large) [09:31] no [09:31] how do I tell [09:31] maybe Im being an idiot [09:32] <_ruben> well, how *do* you do the install exactly :) [09:32] <_ruben> and the kernel you end up with a clear indication, and the presence/lack of X [09:33] CloudAche84: Define "server". A small installation should fit in a couple of 100Mb.. 300Mb maybe? [09:33] hmm [09:33] CloudAche84: Remember that the "Server" installation might install a lot of crap as well. I usually don't select any roles, and just install a small OS. Look up JeOS as well. [09:34] CloudAche84: Certainly not gb.archive's fault. [09:34] no [09:34] but when you install normally you can select a size [09:34] I think I just need to figure out how to seed that [09:38] _ruben: I netboot from dhcp with urle=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/preseed.cfg [09:38] preseed file here: http://pastebin.com/7xgVTR2a [09:39] <_ruben> i see nothing -server specific there [09:47] no [09:47] I kind of assumed that the netboot files would be server [09:47] but maybe not.. [09:47] It hasnt installed X though so I that also made me assume it was server [09:50] memoryleak: resolve.conf looks fine! I think its time for a reinstall i've tried just about everything else! [10:01] New bug: #823182 in nova (universe) "nova-network vlan mode needs to work in single machine scenario" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823182 [12:13] How can i setup a new server with /boot not on LVM and the rest on LVM.. i cant seem to find to good guide.. [12:20] <_ruben> Bernhard: nothing special about it: create 2 partitions, format one as ext2 or your favorite fs, use the other to create a vg on it === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:46] New bug: #801262 in pep8 (universe) "[MIR] pep8" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801262 [13:07] New bug: #805608 in python-decorator (main) "[MIR] python-decorator" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805608 [13:12] RoAkSoAx: kirkland: if you have occasion to test kvm on oneiric with kvm-pxe, would you mind trying with the .deb from https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt and letting me know if anything breaks? [13:13] good morning hggdh [13:25] hallyn: good morning [13:38] <_johnny> anyone who can explain how one can verify a HMAC signature? [13:44] Sure : http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/hmac/ [13:46] <_johnny> Martyn: i came from there, but it only mentions how to compute the hash - not verify it [13:53] first time zul visits millbank and they riot in London...coincidence? [13:53] robbiew: i been busy at nights :) [13:53] lol [13:54] team is sprinting, no meeting today? [13:55] robbiew: so that's what the sprint is all about? :P [13:55] robbiew: btw, are you all ok? [13:56] robbiew: im going to lock myself into my hotel room tonight under the covers with a cricket bat [13:56] Ursinha: I'm just fine...b/c I'm in Austin ;) [13:56] ah, true. hahahaha [13:59] nigelb, well, the sprints were renamed to "rally" though by the looks of it, zul's looks more like a torch relay [14:00] ogra_: hehe [14:00] you can see the smoke from one of the affected areas from millbank [14:00] quite exciting [14:00] I just updated security/limits.conf, how can I make the settings apply without rebooting? [14:01] and what's the default open file limit ? [14:01] 1024 ? [14:02] zul: Are everyone working at Millbank okay? [14:02] Like, around where they live. [14:02] i think so [14:05] nigelb: some live in affected areas but everyone's fine and no personal harm to account :) [14:05] that's good to hear! [14:05] hallyn: ping [14:06] nigelb: yeah :) just crazy stories to tell at lunch time, hehe [14:06] or does it apply as soon as it is saved ? [14:08] david__: afaict you need to log in/out of the user that you applied the limits to, if it's system wise you need to reboot [14:09] david__: and you can check the current parameters for any user using "ulimit -a" [14:10] In this case it's for a daemon that is running on the server [14:10] david__: so reboot :) [14:11] trouble is, it's a HP Proliant GL380 G7, they take 5 minutes to get past the damn post screen and it's a prod server [14:11] david__: use a maintenance window then ;) [14:12] That would break my 100% uptime since 20 months :(, oh well. I'll use a maintenance window [14:13] uptime of 20 months is a really bad idea in most cases. ;) [14:13] Means you haven't tested your bootup in 20 months. [14:13] SpamapS, I agree that sometimes we must reboot because of Kernel bugs [14:14] smoser: utlemming: ping [14:14] david__: or to fsck your root fs [14:14] robbiew, here [14:15] I subscribe now to the ubuntu mailing list for security issues, most issues apply to "local user can exploit" or services that are not on my machines, so that way I am safe. [14:15] Why must I do fsck ? [14:15] bugs.. bit rot.. [14:16] david__: google for the livejournal power failure story to know why you need to test bootup regularly [14:16] david__: if you haven't booted in 20 months it means that your kernel is exposed to 20 months old bugs reported and known, not the best idea [14:19] Do you guys read the security warnings about the kernel ? [14:19] yes [14:19] david__: religiously [14:20] I also watch to make sure versions of the kernel aren't missing in the release [14:20] ok, I used to blindly update my servers, but found it to be a real pain. I usually read the security bulletins and apply updates if they affect my servers. I only run LTS versions of Ubuntu ( desktop, laptop and servers ) [14:22] david__: what I normally do is apply the security updates, then review the normal ones and withold the ones that affect running services (apache, php, mysql, etc) until I've tested a proper upgrade strategy that I can apply in a maintenance window [14:23] even if a security updates says "remote user could exploit flaw in x24..." and you don't use x24 ? [14:23] david__: yes [14:23] david__: security updates are a must, otherwise they wouldn't be security updates [14:23] why ? It causes unnecessary downtime and creates more work for you ? [14:24] david__: I trust that the Ubuntu security team are tagging those updates as important because they are, and they wouldn't be necessary unless you had the package installed, so... [14:24] But if the security update doesn't affect a service on your server, why update it ? Isn't that the point of detailing the security issues in the email ? [14:24] david__: if it's not a service in your server then why you have the package installed? it's silly :D [14:25] lynxman: what's up? [14:25] I have the kernel installed, there were a number of flaws reported in X24 recently, my servers don't use this. ( not even sure what it is ), why would I update the kernel which has a bug in a component of the kernel that I am not using ? [14:25] btw, I am not trying to start a flame war, I am trying to understand your point of view* [14:25] david__: I think I explained it extensively enough already :) [14:26] hallyn: hey! We identified several issues with libvirt + lxc + openstack with smoser [14:26] hallyn: wanted to know if you know a way or have a script to deploy an image directly on lxc without jumping through all those components, it's just to try to identify what's wrong at each level [14:27] lynxman: what does 'deploy an image' exactly mean? [14:27] an existing rootfs in some format? [14:27] normally we create one using the ubuntu lxc template (which uses debootstrap) [14:27] but you can just mount the rootfs, [14:27] hallyn: yes, I already have the rootfs deployed, just try to start it directly through the container manager [14:27] chroot into it, install the lxcguest package, [14:27] zul's done it before [14:27] ok, the security advisory sent last night says "Neil Horman discovered that NFSv4...." and as a result they want me to do a kernel update, but I don't use NFSv4, but I do have the kernel installed. [14:27] once you install the lxcguest package, a regular lxc config should work for you [14:28] hallyn: cool, I think the latest oneiric images already do that? [14:28] do what? [14:28] hallyn: install lxcguest as part of the uec image [14:28] maybe a lxc-import-rootfs script would be useful [14:28] could be [14:28] if so, zul or SpamapS did it :) [14:28] hallyn: yeah something like that is what I was talking with smoser about [14:28] * lynxman raises head and looks at zul [14:29] yeah zul did it, he's a good guy :) [14:29] lynxman: my recommendation for now, would be create an ubuntu oneiric container, then copy that config over to use your uec rootfs [14:29] hallyn: yeah that's what I wanted to proceed with, was just wondering if you had the process streamlined in a script somewhere :) [14:29] (lxc-create -t ubuntu -f /etc/lx.conf -n u1; then rm -rf /var/lib/lxc/u1/rootfs/* and rsync your uec rootfs back into /var/lib/lxc/u1/rootfs) [14:30] nope [14:30] oh! ask SpamapS [14:30] he has a template made for that actually [14:30] it's sitting somewhere... [14:30] SpamapS? Do you have a cool toy for this? ;) [14:30] hallyn: nice :) [14:31] * hallyn takes a big sigh and opens his imap folder... [14:31] hi, I am trying to install a program in limux 10.4 and have dependency issues with libpq5 and libpq-dev. I tried looking around but it seems like verion 9.0.1 was the last version they released this lib in. I tried compiling the newest version through rpm, but that proved useless as well. any help? http://pastebin.com/9tgHEuiy [14:31] hallyn: good luck with that [14:31] I am on ubuntu 10.4 64bit [14:32] sorry what? [14:33] SpamapS: lxc container generation [14:33] from uec images? [14:33] SpamapS: yesh [14:34] the default templates in oneiric are much faster. :) [14:34] SpamapS: which are located in... ? :) [14:35] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ensemble/lxc-container/view/head:/debian/lxc-natty-uec [14:35] thats an lxc template that uses the natty UEC image [14:35] SpamapS: cool, thanks :) [14:37] does anyone know the package manager link which has the newest version of apache in it? [14:45] Daviey: did we have a plan to put LXC in the task list for server? [14:46] adam_g, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ [14:51] does anyone know how to install libpq-dev on ubuntu 10.4 64bit? [14:52] image_q: does it not exist in the repos? [14:52] nope [14:52] the last repo it existed on seems to be 9.0.1 [14:53] "The following packages have unmet dependencies: [14:53] libpq-dev: Depends: libpq5 (= 8.4.8-0ubuntu0.10.04) but 9.0.1-1~lucid is to be installed" [14:53] thats the message I got from the apt-get [14:53] its actually libpq5 I guess [14:54] I any ideas? [14:55] NCommander: not as far as i know [14:55] NCommander: is there a reason to do so. [14:55] ? [14:57] Daviey: ARM? :-) === kentb-afk is now known as kentb [15:01] NCommander: I don't have an opinion either way TBH. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:15] hi [15:16] anybody there? [15:29] ArtworkAD: there are always people here. Please just ask your question, somebody that knows the answer will reply [15:39] well I installed redmine and want to map a subdomain to the redmine folder, so in apache2/sites-available/ I have following file http://pastebin.com/KsaX6Bz9 , but each request is still routed to the default plesk page [15:39] why? [15:40] sites available isn't used [15:40] only sites-enabled [15:41] well in this folder I have the same redmine file [15:44] sites-available is only used by a2ensite. [15:45] after you edited,changed,..., you restarted apache right? [15:45] right [15:45] sudo service apache2 reload === ppetraki_ is now known as ppetraki [15:55] we meeting today? [15:58] Is anyone here using orchestra? I can't for the life of me find any useful documentation. [15:59] gtaylor: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/08/formal-introduction-to-ubuntu-orchestra.html [15:59] lynxman, where are you? can you talk about lxc ? [15:59] kirkland: That's not documentation [16:00] smoser: in my desk at Millbank about to have the team call, going your way :) [16:00] kirkland: Appreciate you taking the time to write that up, but it is really really lacking in an obvious "Go here for documentation" link [16:00] * kirkland goes back to work [16:00] Like saying "I have this really cool shiny new thing, but I'm not going to tell you how to use it :)" [16:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Orchestra [16:01] Sorry, was out [16:01] Back [16:01] kirkland: OK, I have a list of components. Now what? [16:01] I missed a message, somwhere [16:01] gtaylor : So you're looking for a howto? [16:02] gtaylor : Or an operators manual? [16:02] Martyn: That and maybe some reference material. We're trying to evaluate a few different deployment methods, and I'd like to tinker with orchestra. [16:03] It looks cool, I'm just not sure where to get started. [16:03] gtaylor: we're still working on the implementation, haven't gotten to the documentation yet [16:04] kirkland: That's OK, but maybe consider updating your article to reflect that, since it's the current highest ranking content on Google. [16:04] and the documentation is going to be spread a bit .. [16:04] the first thing you need to wrap your head around is cobbler... [16:04] SEO FTW!!!! [16:04] heh, yes [16:05] just to prevent frustration and people writing off your product after the "formal announcement" [16:05] gtaylor: i'd hope to have such documentation polished by 11.10 release [16:05] kirkland: That's cool. I'd even be inclined to help, as I'm a doc writer nerd, but I'll keep an eye out for an eventual rough getting started guide. [16:05] gtaylor: but right now, we're heads down working toward a Beta1 release (and up against feature freeze this week) [16:06] gtaylor: here's the quick/dirty: [16:06] gtaylor: a) install Ubuntu 11.10 server, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-orchestra-server [16:07] gtaylor: when that's done, b) point a browser to that machine, log into the cobbler interface add some machines by hand [16:07] gtaylor: Daviey is working on a program to auto register new machines, but that ain't ready yet [16:07] gtaylor: c) install some systems [16:07] gtaylor: we're also working on Ensemble integration (wave to RoAkSoAx and fwereade), for managing Orchestra workloads [16:08] * fwereade waves [16:08] kirkland: OK, and just to ask what may be a silly question, this is likely to translate over and work decently on something like Amazon EC2 or Rackspace? [16:09] gtaylor: um, no, not likely, as installations are performed over pxe [16:09] gtaylor: systems in amazon and rackspace are already installed [16:09] kirkland: Ack. OK then, I misunderstood the application. [16:09] Cool idea, though. Sounds neat. [16:11] Will 11.10 be supporting ARM officially? [16:14] kim0: yrs [16:14] yes [16:14] cool, fixing docs :) [16:24] j/win 18 [16:25] kirkland: ipxe is in main now - woot [16:25] hallyn: sweet [16:26] now we can make qemu-kvm depend on it :) [16:26] though i've not tested it [16:39] what's the story with KVM and alternative PXE s/w such as gPXE or iPXE? [16:54] hi. how can I install IMAP module for PHP Installation on ubuntu 10.04 ? [16:55] !info php5-imap | orudie [16:55] orudie: php5-imap (source: php-imap): IMAP module for php5. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.3.5-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 36 kB, installed size 164 kB [16:56] pmatulis, thanks [17:41] Hello. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server 10.04 with a LAMP stack and Tomcat installed out of the box as a development test server. I need to be able to hit the MySQL service running there from a remote machine, but I can't seem to get through. I've tried commenting out bind-address and skip-networking isn't in the my.cnf file, but it still doesn't work. [17:42] When I comment out bind-address or change it to anything other than the localhost IP, I can't seem to restart the mysql process. sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart just hangs. Is there something else I need to do? [17:42] Also, if it matters, this server is running as a VM with 2 network interfaces. eth0 is a NAT interface, and eth1 is a host-only interface with a static IP (192.168.159.101), which is the IP I would like to use to connect as I develop on the host machine [18:01] Hello all , I was wondering about something , as it is now , the moment load average gets too high , the systems starts killing of processes. Is there a way for it to do kill STOP 's instead when that happens ? [18:11] New bug: #823462 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823462 [18:19] Howdy, I am trying to implement Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. I can not get any of my nodes to connect, and after running euca_conf --deregister-cluster my cluster name still shows up in /etc/eucalptus/eucalptus-cc.conf [18:34] Wow...I feel like a fool. The problem with MySQL not starting properly was an accidentally deleted "#" in the header comment of the my.conf file. [18:35] anyone do anything with pykota before? [18:35] using Ubuntu 10.04.2 (desktop) as an emergency firewall. Can't get iptables/dnat working except with one public IP address. Ideas? Banging head here.. :( [19:02] New bug: #823494 in libvirt (main) "Virt-manager upgrade 0.9.0 is not in sync with libvirt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823494 === zz_ng_ is now known as _ng === _ng is now known as zz__ng [20:27] Hey guys. I have a server that is querying host.old-domain.com when we have renamed that host to host.new-domain.com. I have checked everywhere I could think of this host for where this name might exist which has included a grep of /etc, /var, /root, /usr/local, all users crontabs, etc but I can't find it. Does anyone know how I can find a way to see what program is looking up this host name? [20:29] P.S.: I found it in the process of moving old-domain from our internal DNS to a third party provider since this domain is still used for other stuff and the host that is looking up this particular A record is the only one. Gonna retire the A record but want to make sure this host still isn't trying to use it [20:52] kirkland: RoAkSoAx: have you used ipxe with qemu-kvm? [20:52] hallyn: nope [20:52] k [20:52] my git-tree-slinging is taking forever, maybe i'll try testing that real quick [20:53] kirkland: around? [20:54] jamespage: howdy [20:57] My question can be ignored. I found the answer using tcpdump [20:57] jetole: what was the problem? [21:05] yaba-daba-do [21:08] Daviey: I wholeheartedly agree. [21:23] hi all [21:24] hi [21:24] hi photon [21:24] hi manco1911 [21:25] photon: im having some issues mounting a network drive on 10.04server.. know anyone specific who could give me a hand ? [21:26] manco1911: I probably cannot help you, but just ask your question and if someone knows the answer, he'll probably provide it to you. and wait for a long period of time (many hours is not uncommon). Feel free to ask the question again some time later. [21:29] photon: ok, thank you, i will [21:29] im having some issues mounting a network drive on 10.04server.. does someone knows a bit on mounting/mapping network drives ? [21:30] also, it would not hurt to explain exactly what your issues are. [21:31] ok, thats going to probably make things easier. thanks photon [21:34] i have a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 10.04. And a router (tplink-1043) wich has a usb port, sharing a ntfs drive on the network. I could mount it without issues with "//SERVER/SHARE /MOUNT-POINT smbfs guest 0 0" (http://www.automaticable.com/2008-01-18/how-to-mount-a-network-drive-in-ubuntu/), but this doesn't seems to work on my server. Neither using cifs... thanks in advance guys [21:38] ok, this is really embarassing. For some reason the shearing service was down on the router. I Just reseted it and now it is working fine. Thanks anyway guys. [21:38] heh [21:38] photon: thanks man. [21:38] np [21:39] didn't do anything. [21:40] hehe, just that made me realise the problem. Probably if you tried to help me with configs and scripts it would have taken a long time to realize it was this silly thing, ha [21:40] :) [21:40] glad it turned out well for you. [21:40] :) [21:40] ok, one more, this one is simple.. [21:41] i really would like to help on the comunity... im not an expert by any means.. but i have recived a lot of help and encuraging from the comunity.. and i think is time to help back a bit.. [21:41] but i dont really know where or how i can do that.. [21:42] maybe just by hanging here ? or on the ubuntu channel? [21:45] manco1911: sure. I think trying to help others is always a good thing. but I am in no way affiliated with ubuntu, I'm just a beginner too, so you might ask someone more representative of ubuntu. [21:48] ok, thanks photon. [23:07] I'm thinking of setting up an external server for some projects I'm working on. It'll need to run git, bugzilla, postgres and a simple GWT web application.(Maximum of 5 users) What kind of hardware would I need? Could I just use an old desktop? [23:11] depends on the load [23:11] but with a very light load, you could run that on a pentium II [23:11] provided you don't mind waiting a few seconds for operations to complete [23:14] my shell server is a 200MHz K6 w/ 256MB, been running that, LAMP, and several IRC over SSL connections, and a few other miscellaneous services for years [23:14] login takes a good ten to fifteen seconds, but otherwise it does the job [23:15] a PII would have a significant advantage over my K6, since a pentium is i686, and my K6 is not [23:15] ok, thanks. [23:16] I'm thinking more like a 2.0 ghz celeron, so I think I'll be ok [23:17] man, I don't own anything that slow anymore [23:17] it's the slowest one I still use [23:17] my slowest machine is my t8600 laptop [23:17] I would have replaced it by now, but it just won't stop working [23:18] you're talking about servers at home? [23:18] or renting servers? [23:18] where several pentium 4 systems and socket As have failed [23:18] yes, I run server grade hardware at home [23:18] plug in my rack [23:18] never liked socket A [23:18] even lost a couple 939s this year [23:18] cheap foxconn boards [23:19] hell, I have fiber san here at my house :) [23:19] but the K6 just works, hard to argue with that [23:20] sounds like my old 386dx40 [23:20] that ran as a gateway/router for years [23:20] cause it wouldn't die === kentb is now known as kentb-out