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harry_hey facing a strange problem with the Ubuntu 11.04 on the Langauge Selection at the time of login....any help.....!!06:59
harry_hey anyone with the Ubuntu 11.04 actually i m facing a strange scenario...!!08:02
harry_with the language selector for Ubuntu 11.0408:06
kelemengaborharry_: ask your question08:08
* kelemengabor starts up a Natty vbox08:09
harry_kelemengabor:when i change the langauge at the time of login the "locale" variable is not getting change as per the language selected at the time of login in ubuntu 11.0408:12
kelemengaborharry_: are you sure that it is the "locale" variable, and not say LANGUAGE you need? I don't even have such.08:18
harry_yes you cal try using "env | grep LANG" or by "locale" it gives incorrect language not as we selected08:19
kelemengaborwell, I just logged in to a normally Hungarian system selecting Danish language at login, result is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/661754/08:22
kelemengaborwhat are you trying with?08:22
harry_yes ...see here you login as the as Danish but the LANG in "env | grep LANG" shows hu_HU.UTF-8 which measn that you system langauige is Hungarian not Dasnish.....because in the Lanaguge Selector in Regional Format tab it s set as the HUNGIAN not as DANISH..08:25
harry_kelemengabor:yes ...see here you login as the as Danish but the LANG in "env | grep LANG" shows hu_HU.UTF-8 which measn that you system langauige is Hungarian not Dasnish.....because in the Lanaguge Selector in Regional Format tab it s set as the HUNGIAN not as DANISH..08:34
kelemengaborharry_: I think this is related to bug 553162 but I'm not really expert on this area with environment variables08:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 553162 in language-selector (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing (affects: 39) (dups: 14) (heat: 124)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55316208:37
harry_let me see guys08:39
harry_sry guys i m studying the bug 55316208:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 553162 in language-selector (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing (affects: 39) (dups: 14) (heat: 124)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55316208:49
harry_ubot4:its a long discussion in bug 553162 so jsut give me a minute to study it08:50
ubot4harry_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:50
harry_it okay but thats the useful link you provide08:50
harry_ubot4:hey thanks for the help dude its realy helpful10:51
ubot4harry_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:51
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RawChidHi, I'm translating GTK+ 3.0 Properties. And in the PO file there is:   33 "Project-Id-Version: gtk+ 2.0\n"12:12
RawChidShall I change 2.0 to 3.0?12:12
RawChidAnother question; if I have a proposal for change in orignal string. Can I change it in code and do a merge proposal on LP. Or do I need to settle this upstream? (if so, where?)  This is the project on LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk+3.012:17
sagacifor something like gtk, it'd be better for it to go upstream unless the package is ubuntu-specific12:27
kelemengaborRawChid: for the header, don't worry, I think I can change it globally12:29
kelemengaborbut, it serves only informational purposes, so it is not that important12:29
kelemengaborsecond, about changing translations in the original, please go to the upstream projects translators12:30
RawChidOkay thanks12:30
kelemengaborwhich is here: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gtk+/12:30
RawChidI'm translating with Gnome it upstream at the moment12:31
RawChidUh, weird sentence, sorry12:31
RawChidI'm translating it upstream at the moment yes12:31
RawChidI'll look if I can propose for a change to source code as well12:32
kelemengaborerr, seems that I can't change the header in the admin interface, so you will need to do it in the po file you intend to send to upstream12:34
RawChidOke no problem12:35
RawChidAre the translations in LP automatically "imported" from Gnome? Or is that done by Gnome translators manually?  Maybe trijntje can answer this...12:37
kelemengaborit is automatic12:38
RawChidSo LP pulls them from git.gnome or something. Do you know the interval?  (I'm just curious)12:38
kelemengaborcurrently, it happens after a package is build, but we will be soon change to the upstream import, which means close to real time imports12:40
RawChidExcuse me for my inexperience, but on what basis (WHEN) are packages build?12:43
andrejz@RawChid: when a new version is released12:44
andrejzhttp://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne12:44
andrejznext one is on august 15th12:44
andrejzi don't know exactly what is the time delay between building of packages and import into launchpadg12:46
RawChidSo august 15th there will be a new build of the GTK+ package. So then the translations are imported in LP (maybe a day later or so).12:47
kelemengaborRawChid: approximately so, yes12:47
andrejzyes, that's the way it should work, more or less12:47
RawChidAt that moment, all translations done via web interface in LP are overwritten, right?12:47
andrejzyes12:48
RawChidUh, UI mean all translations done in LP (and not upstream)12:48
andrejzif the string is untranslated in launchpad it gets owerwritten by upstream12:48
andrejzbut if you change a string after it was imported from upstream it won't be overwritten the next time12:48
andrejzat the next import12:49
RawChidAnd vice versa? translated in LP and untranslated in upstream12:49
andrejzit will be shown as a suggestion12:49
andrejz@RawChid: stays translated in LP12:49
RawChidOke, thanks for the heads up :-D12:49
andrejzonly if it's translated in LP and upstream (and is different in upstream) it gets overwritten by upsteram12:50
andrejzbut only once12:50
andrejzif you change it again back it won't be owerwritten the 2nd time12:50
RawChid:)12:52
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