[06:59] <harry_> hey facing a strange problem with the Ubuntu 11.04 on the Langauge Selection at the time of login....any help.....!!
[08:02] <harry_> hey anyone with the Ubuntu 11.04 actually i m facing a strange scenario...!!
[08:06] <harry_> with the language selector for Ubuntu 11.04
[08:08] <kelemengabor> harry_: ask your question
[08:09]  * kelemengabor starts up a Natty vbox
[08:12] <harry_> kelemengabor:when i change the langauge at the time of login the "locale" variable is not getting change as per the language selected at the time of login in ubuntu 11.04
[08:18] <kelemengabor> harry_: are you sure that it is the "locale" variable, and not say LANGUAGE you need? I don't even have such.
[08:19] <harry_> yes you cal try using "env | grep LANG" or by "locale" it gives incorrect language not as we selected
[08:22] <kelemengabor> well, I just logged in to a normally Hungarian system selecting Danish language at login, result is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/661754/
[08:22] <kelemengabor> what are you trying with?
[08:25] <harry_> yes ...see here you login as the as Danish but the LANG in "env | grep LANG" shows hu_HU.UTF-8 which measn that you system langauige is Hungarian not Dasnish.....because in the Lanaguge Selector in Regional Format tab it s set as the HUNGIAN not as DANISH..
[08:34] <harry_> kelemengabor:yes ...see here you login as the as Danish but the LANG in "env | grep LANG" shows hu_HU.UTF-8 which measn that you system langauige is Hungarian not Dasnish.....because in the Lanaguge Selector in Regional Format tab it s set as the HUNGIAN not as DANISH..
[08:37] <kelemengabor> harry_: I think this is related to bug 553162 but I'm not really expert on this area with environment variables
[08:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 553162 in language-selector (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing (affects: 39) (dups: 14) (heat: 124)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553162
[08:39] <harry_> let me see guys
[08:49] <harry_> sry guys i m studying the bug 553162
[08:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 553162 in language-selector (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing (affects: 39) (dups: 14) (heat: 124)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553162
[08:50] <harry_> ubot4:its a long discussion in bug 553162 so jsut give me a minute to study it
[08:50] <ubot4> harry_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:50] <harry_> it okay but thats the useful link you provide
[10:51] <harry_> ubot4:hey thanks for the help dude its realy helpful
[10:51] <ubot4> harry_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:12] <RawChid> Hi, I'm translating GTK+ 3.0 Properties. And in the PO file there is:   33 "Project-Id-Version: gtk+ 2.0\n"
[12:12] <RawChid> Shall I change 2.0 to 3.0?
[12:17] <RawChid> Another question; if I have a proposal for change in orignal string. Can I change it in code and do a merge proposal on LP. Or do I need to settle this upstream? (if so, where?)  This is the project on LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gtk+3.0
[12:27] <sagaci> for something like gtk, it'd be better for it to go upstream unless the package is ubuntu-specific
[12:29] <kelemengabor> RawChid: for the header, don't worry, I think I can change it globally
[12:29] <kelemengabor> but, it serves only informational purposes, so it is not that important
[12:30] <kelemengabor> second, about changing translations in the original, please go to the upstream projects translators
[12:30] <RawChid> Okay thanks
[12:30] <kelemengabor> which is here: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gtk+/
[12:31] <RawChid> I'm translating with Gnome it upstream at the moment
[12:31] <RawChid> Uh, weird sentence, sorry
[12:31] <RawChid> I'm translating it upstream at the moment yes
[12:32] <RawChid> I'll look if I can propose for a change to source code as well
[12:34] <kelemengabor> err, seems that I can't change the header in the admin interface, so you will need to do it in the po file you intend to send to upstream
[12:35] <RawChid> Oke no problem
[12:37] <RawChid> Are the translations in LP automatically "imported" from Gnome? Or is that done by Gnome translators manually?  Maybe trijntje can answer this...
[12:38] <kelemengabor> it is automatic
[12:38] <RawChid> So LP pulls them from git.gnome or something. Do you know the interval?  (I'm just curious)
[12:40] <kelemengabor> currently, it happens after a package is build, but we will be soon change to the upstream import, which means close to real time imports
[12:43] <RawChid> Excuse me for my inexperience, but on what basis (WHEN) are packages build?
[12:44] <andrejz> @RawChid: when a new version is released
[12:44] <andrejz> http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne
[12:44] <andrejz> next one is on august 15th
[12:46] <andrejz> i don't know exactly what is the time delay between building of packages and import into launchpadg
[12:47] <RawChid> So august 15th there will be a new build of the GTK+ package. So then the translations are imported in LP (maybe a day later or so).
[12:47] <kelemengabor> RawChid: approximately so, yes
[12:47] <andrejz> yes, that's the way it should work, more or less
[12:47] <RawChid> At that moment, all translations done via web interface in LP are overwritten, right?
[12:48] <andrejz> yes
[12:48] <RawChid> Uh, UI mean all translations done in LP (and not upstream)
[12:48] <andrejz> if the string is untranslated in launchpad it gets owerwritten by upstream
[12:48] <andrejz> but if you change a string after it was imported from upstream it won't be overwritten the next time
[12:49] <andrejz> at the next import
[12:49] <RawChid> And vice versa? translated in LP and untranslated in upstream
[12:49] <andrejz> it will be shown as a suggestion
[12:49] <andrejz> @RawChid: stays translated in LP
[12:49] <RawChid> Oke, thanks for the heads up :-D
[12:50] <andrejz> only if it's translated in LP and upstream (and is different in upstream) it gets overwritten by upsteram
[12:50] <andrejz> but only once
[12:50] <andrejz> if you change it again back it won't be owerwritten the 2nd time
[12:52] <RawChid> :)