| Unit193 | cyberanger: Welcome back | 03:16 |
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| cyberanger | netsplit, heh | 03:18 |
| cyberanger | thanks Unit193 | 03:18 |
| Unit193 | Day going well? | 03:31 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: well enough | 03:32 |
| Unit193 | I found out that oddly enough, KDM works better in Xubuntu than LXDM does :P | 03:33 |
| === wrst_ is now known as wrst | ||
| cyberanger | wb wrst | 16:33 |
| cyberanger | Unit193: that is odd | 16:33 |
| cyberanger | what about SLiM | 16:33 |
| wrst | cyberanger: thanks I really needa UPS | 16:52 |
| cyberanger | me too | 17:07 |
| cyberanger | but laptop battries do enough for now | 17:07 |
| cyberanger | the desktop needs it | 17:08 |
| Unit193 | cyberanger: Slim only loaded Xfce Session, not Xubuntu Session | 17:09 |
| netritious | Howdy locotn | 17:11 |
| cyberanger | hrm, that's kinda intresting, I think there might be a way to tweak that (idk if I'd want to though ;-)) | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | hey netritious | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | what's up | 17:12 |
| netritious | nada just hanging out | 17:12 |
| netritious | how are things with you cyberanger | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | netritious: intresting lately | 17:13 |
| netritious | cool cyberanger...interesting is always better than boring | 17:13 |
| cyberanger | nothing is too certain, small downside, considering the worst case is I stay local looking for work | 17:13 |
| cyberanger | and everything else is a relative upshot, a nice job | 17:14 |
| cyberanger | with a small downside, If I get (and accept) them, it'll be a move | 17:14 |
| netritious | nice...in your field or...? | 17:15 |
| cyberanger | some, not the majority though | 17:15 |
| netritious | gotta start somewhere though, right? | 17:16 |
| cyberanger | which is ok, not sure what my field is in some sense, I mean, young & flexable, something else might suit me better | 17:16 |
| cyberanger | or at least pay for the hobbies | 17:16 |
| cyberanger | yep, shame somewhere might not be TN, but pick your battles | 17:17 |
| netritious | cyberanger: I received an email about a new locotn mailing list. Do you know anything about that? Like why is there a new mailing list? | 17:18 |
| cyberanger | yeah, that notice can be disreguarded, a simple mistak | 17:22 |
| netritious | cool | 17:22 |
| netritious | bbl | 17:48 |
| wrst | wb netritious | 20:22 |
| netritious | ty wrst | 20:23 |
| wrst | netritious: you will understand but usually when I see netritious: bbl that usually means 3 weeks ;) | 20:24 |
| netritious | lol | 20:24 |
| netritious | I typically intend to come back a lot sooner than every three weeks, but you know, life has been keeping me busy :) | 20:25 |
| wrst | but glad your presence is back | 20:25 |
| wrst | yeah netritious I know the feeling all too well right now | 20:25 |
| netritious | some good news: I'm re-purposing all of my server equipment (six machines, with three additional (sub-par) standby's if needed) to create a lab here at the house | 20:27 |
| wrst | cool netritious what exactly is this lab going to do ? | 20:27 |
| netritious | security and performance testing | 20:28 |
| wrst | that's a lot of security and performance testing! | 20:28 |
| netritious | maybe some source code analysis/auditing so I can learn the procedures involved | 20:28 |
| netritious | hehe | 20:29 |
| netritious | the idea is to simulate some "real life" attack scenarios to see how different products stand up to the test, with docs and video of course | 20:30 |
| * wrst realizes netritious is in stuff way over my head | 20:30 | |
| netritious | oh stop putting yourself down wrst :( if you can sudo apt-get install <package> and have some time then you can do it too lol | 20:30 |
| wrst | ha ha yeah time... what is that again? :) | 20:30 |
| netritious | hehe | 20:31 |
| wrst | netritious: sounds like you are getting in cyberanger's crazy security domain ;) | 20:31 |
| netritious | security has always been my top priority, but it's harder to get paid for it ;) | 20:32 |
| netritious | I think that is changing now though with the feds looking to recruit blackhats (criminals) at defcon and all | 20:33 |
| netritious | blackhat=criminal, regardless of intention, and I hope I'm not pissing off some blackhat now by saying so, but it's true | 20:34 |
| wrst | :) | 20:34 |
| wrst | ha ha | 20:34 |
| netritious | seems to be some kind of Robin Hood syndrome associated with it, but I would prefer to just keep it localized to my home ;) | 20:37 |
| netritious | going back to New Horizons to finish up my CEH, well as high as you can go without taking a polygraph :D | 20:38 |
| netritious | *some of the more advanced/in-depth courses for CEH require security clearance | 20:40 |
| wrst | CEH? | 20:41 |
| netritious | Certified Ethical Hacker | 20:41 |
| wrst | ahh | 20:41 |
| wrst | gotcha | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | BackTrack :P | 20:43 |
| netritious | wrst: http://tinyurl.com/yayrxsa | 20:44 |
| netritious | hi Unit193...BT is a good tool, but it doesn't get me certified :) Besides, a lot more out there than just BT | 20:44 |
| * wrst has a lot to read now :) | 20:45 | |
| Unit193 | netritious: Oh yes, but it's a good way to get started from what I know | 20:45 |
| netritious | Unit193: agreed | 20:47 |
| netritious | wish it was around when I started pen testing :/ | 20:47 |
| netritious | I used nessus back in the day as an auditing tool, but then they went all commercial and stuff | 20:48 |
| netritious | I heard there is a fork out there somewhere but I have no idea what the name of it is | 20:48 |
| Unit193 | Eh, I've done WEP once, but not a ton more | 20:48 |
| Unit193 | Metasploit or something like that | 20:48 |
| netritious | hehe a buddy of mine use to be into war driving | 20:49 |
| netritious | yeah Metasploit is a good tool to, but also went commercial... | 20:49 |
| netritious | still a free version, but crippled | 20:49 |
| netritious | *there is still a free version I meant | 20:49 |
| netritious | I have yet to successfully crack WPA2 using BT, but I think it might be my wireless adapter... | 20:50 |
| netritious | can't go into master mode | 20:50 |
| netritious | I have a spare wireless router and laptop with a linksys USB 802.11b/g/n adapter, left running for days and nothing | 20:53 |
| netritious | Unit193: you into security testing/research? | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | netritious: Nope :P Just keeping my SSH away from others (Differ the port) | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | +disable pass and force keyfile | 20:56 |
| netritious | using keys and password logins disabled? | 20:56 |
| netritious | :) | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | netritious: Router supports SSH with disabled pass and supportrs keyfiles :D | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | (Use it as a backup) | 20:58 |
| netritious | dd-wrt? | 20:59 |
| netritious | ^ Unit193 | 21:00 |
| Unit193 | Tomato | 21:00 |
| netritious | roger | 21:00 |
| Unit193 | I like it a bit better, but I also have a second one that needs micro | 21:01 |
| netritious | what type of device are you using for a router? buffalo, linksys, etc | 21:01 |
| Unit193 | Linksys WRT54GS v3 and WRT54G v6 | 21:01 |
| netritious | nice | 21:01 |
| netritious | wrst: btw, softball season ended finally..last weekend was the all star championship | 21:03 |
| wrst | how did your daughter do netritious? | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | b/w usage for the month of may: Down: 70.79 GB Up: 56.95 GB Total: 127.74 GB :P | 21:03 |
| wrst | and netritious was that a hint of relief? | 21:03 |
| netritious | her team placed first local out of 10 teams, placed third in state (MS), placed fourth in championship | 21:04 |
| wrst | good job | 21:04 |
| netritious | Unit193: nice | 21:04 |
| netritious | wrst: yeah she played her little hiney off this year | 21:04 |
| * netritious is a proud daddy :D | 21:04 | |
| wrst | nothing wrong with that netritious! | 21:05 |
| netritious | not at all wrst! | 21:05 |
| wrst | I've found out these little girls get you wrapped up pretty early in life | 21:05 |
| netritious | indeed wrst :) | 21:06 |
| wrst | we haven't had one for a year and I think she knows she has me | 21:06 |
| netritious | you guys ever seen a velvet ant? | 21:31 |
| orangeninja | netritious: You're around Memphis area right? | 22:13 |
| netritious | orangeninja: yeah, you? | 22:38 |
| orangeninja | Nashville | 22:44 |
| orangeninja | I was wondering because your talking about stuff I am interested too. BUt I thought I read or heard you were way down in Memphis | 22:45 |
| orangeninja | It was the last meeting. | 22:45 |
| netritious | yeah just south of Memphis | 22:55 |
| orangeninja | cool | 22:55 |
| netritious | I'm less than 5 miles form the TN/MS border | 22:56 |
| orangeninja | too bad... I'd like to help in your lab. If you need any....heh | 22:56 |
| orangeninja | Nice area I hear | 22:56 |
| netritious | It's not to shabby :) | 22:56 |
| netritious | so you're into security? | 22:57 |
| orangeninja | I am into it, don't know much. BUt interested. | 22:59 |
| netritious | I know a bit, but wouldn't call myself an "expert" exactly...there is a lot of stuff I don't know too | 23:01 |
| orangeninja | Yeah. I am trying to set up a little "lab" with a couple of old desktops. Just to mess around with. | 23:03 |
| netritious | that's all you really need...two PCs and a switch and/or router...really depending on what you want to research, a crossover cable might be all you need (connect directly from one PC to another) | 23:04 |
| netritious | *if you are using Gb ethernet you don't need a crossover cable, but you said older desktops :) | 23:06 |
| netritious | I wrote a multi-threaded http client a few years ago where it takes a text file of IPv4 addresses and URLs and queues them up...it was to learn multi-threading... | 23:08 |
| netritious | the point is, I can start from there and write some other clients, and try to bombard different server softwares with known exploits | 23:09 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, netritious and I have kinda been that way, netritious probally has more reasons than I do | 23:09 |
| cyberanger | (at least, if he didn't his wallet could hurt more) | 23:09 |
| netritious | cyberanger: are you calling me paranoid? oh wait, am I being paranoid now? :D | 23:09 |
| * cyberanger wishes more of it was paid, personally I just do it for habit | 23:10 | |
| cyberanger | netritious: is it paranoia, if it's still held in reality | 23:10 |
| cyberanger | and I'd say no, if it is a risk, anylize or purge the risk | 23:11 |
| netritious | cyberanger: I guess not :) | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | if it's an exploit patch it | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | so on | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | now, do I go a little further than alot of people (perhaps you even) oh yeah | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | wrst & I banter & rant over that | 23:11 |
| netritious | cyberanger: have you read about the tools out there that find 0-day exploits? | 23:12 |
| netritious | all custom written stuff, usually by the security researcher | 23:13 |
| netritious | and closed of course :P | 23:13 |
| cyberanger | yeah, they kinda have to be | 23:13 |
| netritious | Hi MootBot | 23:13 |
| cyberanger | some aren't too closed (including all in Metasploit) | 23:13 |
| netritious | ::snicker:: | 23:13 |
| netritious | Metasploit is OSS? | 23:14 |
| netritious | (I was snickering at MootBot btw, not what you said) | 23:14 |
| cyberanger | depends on view, not GPL, but BSD, yep | 23:14 |
| cyberanger | the exploits in the framework I think can be many licenses due to that too | 23:15 |
| orangeninja | does it reply? | 23:15 |
| cyberanger | I focus more on the patches than the exploits I guess, well more the defensive angle | 23:15 |
| netritious | cyberanger: where is the source code? Looking but can't seem to put my finger on it | 23:15 |
| orangeninja | Hi MootBot | 23:15 |
| cyberanger | orangeninja: yep, but only meeting related | 23:16 |
| orangeninja | ha | 23:16 |
| netritious | orangeninja: sometimes MootBot talks, but like cyberanger said only in meetings | 23:16 |
| netritious | hey, dee-nor is served...bbl (shutup wrst! lol) | 23:16 |
| wrst | ha ha netritious | 23:17 |
| wrst | enjoy the dinner :) | 23:17 |
| wrst | or dee-nor :P | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | netritious: http://www.metasploit.com/download/ the tarball under unix? | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | I bet there is other places, bazar branch or git repo | 23:17 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i think the dinner plate called ;) | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | but not finding it quick | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | wrst: well, best not ignore it | 23:18 |
| cyberanger | when your plate calls, you best answer it, it might be important (and perhaps fix the faulty ringer in your phone) ;-) | 23:19 |
| wrst | cyberanger: lots of activity this afternoon | 23:20 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, shame I didn't catch it all | 23:20 |
| wrst | me either i did download backtrax or backtracks or however that is | 23:20 |
| cyberanger | backtrack linux | 23:21 |
| cyberanger | good distro | 23:21 |
| wrst | yeah that's it | 23:21 |
| wrst | curious what that is all about going to fire it up in a VM | 23:21 |
| cyberanger | netritious: there is some great code, for wpa & wpa2 bruteforcing, runs on Amazon's EC2 instances, the High GPU instances | 23:22 |
| cyberanger | it's kinda neat, worth a try to highlight why security matters a little more | 23:22 |
| wrst | yeah that's why i'm looking at it | 23:22 |
| orangeninja | ok my dinner is done too!. see ya in a few. | 23:24 |
| orangeninja | nice jingle | 23:24 |
| wrst | later orangeninja :) | 23:25 |
| netritious | back | 23:51 |
| wrst | netritious: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/479960-the-six-best-linux-community-server-distributions | 23:55 |
| wrst | and how was dinner? | 23:55 |
| netritious | cyberanger: checking out the source now for msf4 (which looks to be msf3?) | 23:55 |
| netritious | wrst: good..chicken, stuffing, green beans | 23:56 |
| wrst | sounds mighty good to me | 23:56 |
| wrst | feel like hee haw asking grandpa jones what's for dinner | 23:57 |
| * wrst fears he just aged himself | 23:57 | |
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