[03:16] <Unit193> cyberanger: Welcome back
[03:18] <cyberanger> netsplit, heh
[03:18] <cyberanger> thanks Unit193
[03:31] <Unit193> Day going well?
[03:32] <cyberanger> Unit193: well enough
[03:33] <Unit193> I found out that oddly enough, KDM works better in Xubuntu than LXDM does :P
[16:33] <cyberanger> wb wrst
[16:33] <cyberanger> Unit193: that is odd
[16:33] <cyberanger> what about SLiM
[16:52] <wrst> cyberanger: thanks I really needa  UPS
[17:07] <cyberanger> me too
[17:07] <cyberanger> but laptop battries do enough for now
[17:08] <cyberanger> the desktop needs it
[17:09] <Unit193> cyberanger: Slim only loaded Xfce Session, not Xubuntu Session
[17:11] <netritious> Howdy locotn
[17:12] <cyberanger> hrm, that's kinda intresting, I think there might be a way to tweak that (idk if I'd want to though ;-))
[17:12] <cyberanger> hey netritious
[17:12] <cyberanger> what's up
[17:12] <netritious> nada just hanging out
[17:12] <netritious> how are things with you cyberanger
[17:13] <cyberanger> netritious: intresting lately
[17:13] <netritious> cool cyberanger...interesting is always better than boring
[17:13] <cyberanger> nothing is too certain, small downside, considering the worst case is I stay local looking for work
[17:14] <cyberanger> and everything else is a relative upshot, a nice job
[17:14] <cyberanger> with a small downside, If I get (and accept) them, it'll be a move
[17:15] <netritious> nice...in your field or...?
[17:15] <cyberanger> some, not the majority though
[17:16] <netritious> gotta start somewhere though, right?
[17:16] <cyberanger> which is ok, not sure what my field is in some sense, I mean, young & flexable, something else might suit me better
[17:16] <cyberanger> or at least pay for the hobbies
[17:17] <cyberanger> yep, shame somewhere might not be TN, but pick your battles
[17:18] <netritious> cyberanger: I received an email about a new locotn mailing list. Do you know anything about that? Like why is there a new mailing list?
[17:22] <cyberanger> yeah, that notice can be disreguarded, a simple mistak
[17:22] <netritious> cool
[17:48] <netritious> bbl
[20:22] <wrst> wb netritious
[20:23] <netritious> ty wrst
[20:24] <wrst> netritious: you will understand but usually when I see netritious: bbl  that usually means 3 weeks ;)
[20:24] <netritious> lol
[20:25] <netritious> I typically intend to come back a lot sooner than every three weeks, but you know, life has been keeping me busy :)
[20:25] <wrst> but glad your presence is back
[20:25] <wrst> yeah netritious I know the feeling all too well right now
[20:27] <netritious> some good news: I'm re-purposing all of my server equipment (six machines, with three additional (sub-par) standby's if needed) to create a lab here at the house
[20:27] <wrst> cool netritious what exactly is this lab going to do ?
[20:28] <netritious> security and performance testing
[20:28] <wrst> that's a lot of security and performance testing!
[20:28] <netritious> maybe some source code analysis/auditing so I can learn the procedures involved
[20:29] <netritious> hehe
[20:30] <netritious> the idea is to simulate some "real life" attack scenarios to see how different products stand up to the test, with docs and video of course
[20:30]  * wrst realizes netritious is in stuff way over my head
[20:30] <netritious> oh stop putting yourself down wrst :( if you can sudo apt-get install <package> and have some time then you can do it too lol
[20:30] <wrst> ha ha yeah time... what is that again? :)
[20:31] <netritious> hehe
[20:31] <wrst> netritious: sounds like you are getting in cyberanger's crazy security domain ;)
[20:32] <netritious> security has always been my top priority, but it's harder to get paid for it ;)
[20:33] <netritious> I think that is changing now though with the feds looking to recruit blackhats (criminals) at defcon and all
[20:34] <netritious> blackhat=criminal, regardless of intention, and I hope I'm not pissing off some blackhat now by saying so, but it's true
[20:34] <wrst> :)
[20:34] <wrst> ha ha
[20:37] <netritious> seems to be some kind of Robin Hood syndrome associated with it, but I would prefer to just keep it localized to my home ;)
[20:38] <netritious> going back to New Horizons to finish up my CEH, well as high as you can go without taking a polygraph :D
[20:40] <netritious> *some of the more advanced/in-depth courses for CEH require security clearance
[20:41] <wrst> CEH?
[20:41] <netritious> Certified Ethical Hacker
[20:41] <wrst> ahh
[20:41] <wrst> gotcha
[20:43] <Unit193> BackTrack :P
[20:44] <netritious> wrst: http://tinyurl.com/yayrxsa
[20:44] <netritious> hi Unit193...BT is a good tool, but it doesn't get me certified :) Besides, a lot more out there than just BT
[20:45]  * wrst has a lot to read now :)
[20:45] <Unit193> netritious: Oh yes, but it's a good way to get started from what I know
[20:47] <netritious> Unit193: agreed
[20:47] <netritious> wish it was around when I started pen testing :/
[20:48] <netritious> I used nessus back in the day as an auditing tool, but then they went all commercial and stuff
[20:48] <netritious> I heard there is a fork out there somewhere but I have no idea what the name of it is
[20:48] <Unit193> Eh, I've done WEP once, but not a ton more
[20:48] <Unit193> Metasploit or something like that
[20:49] <netritious> hehe a buddy of mine use to be into war driving
[20:49] <netritious> yeah Metasploit is a good tool to, but also went commercial...
[20:49] <netritious> still a free version, but crippled
[20:49] <netritious> *there is still a free version I meant
[20:50] <netritious> I have yet to successfully crack WPA2 using BT, but I think it might be my wireless adapter...
[20:50] <netritious> can't go into master mode
[20:53] <netritious> I have a spare wireless router and laptop with a linksys USB 802.11b/g/n adapter, left running for days and nothing
[20:55] <netritious> Unit193: you into security testing/research?
[20:56] <Unit193> netritious: Nope :P  Just keeping my SSH away from others (Differ the port)
[20:56] <Unit193> +disable pass and force keyfile
[20:56] <netritious> using keys and password logins disabled?
[20:56] <netritious> :)
[20:58] <Unit193> netritious: Router supports SSH with disabled pass and supportrs keyfiles :D
[20:58] <Unit193> (Use it as a backup)
[20:59] <netritious> dd-wrt?
[21:00] <netritious> ^ Unit193
[21:00] <Unit193> Tomato
[21:00] <netritious> roger
[21:01] <Unit193> I like it a bit better, but I also have a second one that needs micro
[21:01] <netritious> what type of device are you using for a router? buffalo, linksys, etc
[21:01] <Unit193> Linksys WRT54GS v3 and WRT54G v6
[21:01] <netritious> nice
[21:03] <netritious> wrst: btw, softball season ended finally..last weekend was the all star championship
[21:03] <wrst> how did your daughter do netritious?
[21:03] <Unit193> b/w usage for the month of may: Down: 70.79 GB  Up: 56.95 GB  Total: 127.74 GB   :P
[21:03] <wrst> and netritious was that a hint of relief?
[21:04] <netritious> her team placed first local out of 10 teams, placed third in state (MS), placed fourth in championship
[21:04] <wrst> good job
[21:04] <netritious> Unit193: nice
[21:04] <netritious> wrst: yeah she played her little hiney off this year
[21:04]  * netritious is a proud daddy :D
[21:05] <wrst> nothing wrong with that netritious!
[21:05] <netritious> not at all wrst!
[21:05] <wrst> I've found out these little girls get you wrapped up pretty early in life
[21:06] <netritious> indeed wrst :)
[21:06] <wrst> we haven't had one for a year and I think she knows she has me
[21:31] <netritious> you guys ever seen a velvet ant?
[22:13] <orangeninja> netritious: You're around Memphis area right?
[22:38] <netritious> orangeninja: yeah, you?
[22:44] <orangeninja> Nashville
[22:45] <orangeninja> I was wondering because your talking about stuff I am interested too. BUt I thought I read or heard you were way down in Memphis
[22:45] <orangeninja> It was the last meeting.
[22:55] <netritious> yeah just south of Memphis
[22:55] <orangeninja> cool
[22:56] <netritious> I'm less than 5 miles form the TN/MS border
[22:56] <orangeninja> too bad... I'd like to help in your lab. If you need any....heh
[22:56] <orangeninja> Nice area I hear
[22:56] <netritious> It's not to shabby :)
[22:57] <netritious> so you're into security?
[22:59] <orangeninja> I am into it, don't know much. BUt interested.
[23:01] <netritious> I know a bit, but wouldn't call myself an "expert" exactly...there is a lot of stuff I don't know too
[23:03] <orangeninja> Yeah. I am trying to set up a little "lab" with a couple of old desktops. Just to mess around with.
[23:04] <netritious> that's all you really need...two PCs and a switch and/or router...really depending on what you want to research, a crossover cable might be all you need (connect directly from one PC to another)
[23:06] <netritious> *if you are using Gb ethernet you don't need a crossover cable, but you said older desktops :)
[23:08] <netritious> I wrote a multi-threaded http client a few years ago where it takes a text file of IPv4 addresses and URLs and queues them up...it was to learn multi-threading...
[23:09] <netritious> the point is, I can start from there and write some other clients, and try to bombard different server softwares with known exploits
[23:09] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, netritious and I have kinda been that way, netritious probally has more reasons than I do
[23:09] <cyberanger> (at least, if he didn't his wallet could hurt more)
[23:09] <netritious> cyberanger: are you calling me paranoid? oh wait, am I being paranoid now? :D
[23:10]  * cyberanger wishes more of it was paid, personally I just do it for habit
[23:10] <cyberanger> netritious: is it paranoia, if it's still held in reality
[23:11] <cyberanger> and I'd say no, if it is a risk, anylize or purge the risk
[23:11] <netritious> cyberanger: I guess not :)
[23:11] <cyberanger> if it's an exploit patch it
[23:11] <cyberanger> so on
[23:11] <cyberanger> now, do I go a little further than alot of people (perhaps you even) oh yeah
[23:11] <cyberanger> wrst & I banter & rant over that
[23:12] <netritious> cyberanger: have you read about the tools out there that find 0-day exploits?
[23:13] <netritious> all custom written stuff, usually by the security researcher
[23:13] <netritious> and closed of course :P
[23:13] <cyberanger> yeah, they kinda have to be
[23:13] <netritious> Hi MootBot
[23:13] <cyberanger> some aren't too closed (including all in Metasploit)
[23:13] <netritious> ::snicker::
[23:14] <netritious> Metasploit is OSS?
[23:14] <netritious> (I was snickering at MootBot btw, not what you said)
[23:14] <cyberanger> depends on view, not GPL, but BSD, yep
[23:15] <cyberanger> the exploits in the framework I think can be many licenses due to that too
[23:15] <orangeninja> does it reply?
[23:15] <cyberanger> I focus more on the patches than the exploits I guess, well more the defensive angle
[23:15] <netritious> cyberanger: where is the source code? Looking but can't seem to put my finger on it
[23:15] <orangeninja> Hi MootBot
[23:16] <cyberanger> orangeninja: yep, but only meeting related
[23:16] <orangeninja> ha
[23:16] <netritious> orangeninja: sometimes MootBot talks, but like cyberanger said only in meetings
[23:16] <netritious> hey, dee-nor is served...bbl (shutup wrst! lol)
[23:17] <wrst> ha ha netritious
[23:17] <wrst> enjoy the dinner :)
[23:17] <wrst> or dee-nor :P
[23:17] <cyberanger> netritious: http://www.metasploit.com/download/ the tarball under unix?
[23:17] <cyberanger> I bet there is other places, bazar branch or git repo
[23:17] <wrst> cyberanger: i think the dinner plate called ;)
[23:17] <cyberanger> but not finding it quick
[23:18] <cyberanger> wrst: well, best not ignore it
[23:19] <cyberanger> when your plate calls, you best answer it, it might be important (and perhaps fix the faulty ringer in your phone) ;-)
[23:20] <wrst> cyberanger: lots of activity this afternoon
[23:20] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, shame I didn't catch it all
[23:20] <wrst> me either i did download backtrax or backtracks or however that is
[23:21] <cyberanger> backtrack linux
[23:21] <cyberanger> good distro
[23:21] <wrst> yeah that's it
[23:21] <wrst> curious what that is all about going to fire it up in a VM
[23:22] <cyberanger> netritious: there is some great code, for wpa & wpa2 bruteforcing, runs on Amazon's EC2 instances, the High GPU instances
[23:22] <cyberanger> it's kinda neat, worth a try to highlight why security matters a little more
[23:22] <wrst> yeah that's why i'm looking at it
[23:24] <orangeninja> ok my dinner is done too!. see ya in a few.
[23:24] <orangeninja> nice jingle
[23:25] <wrst> later orangeninja :)
[23:51] <netritious> back
[23:55] <wrst> netritious: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/479960-the-six-best-linux-community-server-distributions
[23:55] <wrst> and how was dinner?
[23:55] <netritious> cyberanger: checking out the source now for msf4 (which looks to be msf3?)
[23:56] <netritious> wrst: good..chicken, stuffing, green beans
[23:56] <wrst> sounds mighty good to me
[23:57] <wrst> feel like hee haw asking grandpa jones what's for dinner
[23:57]  * wrst fears he just aged himself