[00:00] <urlin2u> sliverarrow, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[00:00] <usr13> Only about 1500 of us.  What do you need?
[00:00] <seanmc98> if i install gnome dows it get rid of the side bar like on unity/
[00:00] <LiquidsnakeX> i need some help about Ubuntu pls
[00:00] <LiquidsnakeX> i ran the live cd option
[00:00] <usr13> LiquidsnakeX: All on one post please
[00:01] <LiquidsnakeX> sorry usr13
[00:01] <urlin2u> silverarrow, ready for thr second?
[00:01] <LiquidsnakeX> i ran the live cd option and when i am trying to run some movie.avi files it doesn't work ? is this going to be fixed later when i install or what ?
[00:01] <ChristopherNG> Anyone tell me a quick way of check if i already have Novuea installed?
[00:01] <usr13> LiquidsnakeX: Yes, you can play avi files.
[00:02] <LiquidsnakeX> thanks usr13
[00:02] <LiquidsnakeX> and what about the programs like skype and bitdefender2010 though i think i won't need antiviruses
[00:02] <spexi> skype works fine
[00:03] <seanmc98> LiquidsnakeX, yiou will be abkle to open ubuntu sofware center and instal skype
[00:03] <LiquidsnakeX> thank you people alot i know it's very stupid questions it's just nobody uses ubuntu here ...
[00:04] <usr13> LiquidsnakeX: YOu are correct, you do not need antivirus
[00:04] <jbarcus81> I have a back up hard drive I use and for some reason I can't see it on 11.04 x64... I try to mount but get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/661517/  --- What am I doing wrong ?? Never had an issue before with it... until 11.04
[00:04] <silverarrow> urlin2u, appearently it cannot find sda1 ?
[00:04] <ryan__> just ran the "sudo lspci -v" command
[00:04] <t4nk595> how can I change my dpi? I tried forcing it in xorg.conf, but that didn't work
[00:04] <celltech> Is there anyway to disable my system from ever asking me for my password again?
[00:05] <qin> ChristopherNG: I think "glxinfo" may help.
[00:05] <ryan__> checking on others with same problem
[00:05] <ChristopherNG> does Nouvea the driver come as default with 11.04?
[00:05] <urlin2u> silverarrow, copy the terminal info to the pastebin.
[00:05] <usr13> celltech: You can set up autologin
[00:05] <Monotoko> celltech...that would be like asking a hacker to come and visit, it needs to ask when you are doing certain things
[00:05] <celltech> Well I have that. but for anything else this is a me only computer and I don't want to ever enter my password again
[00:06] <silverarrow> urlin2u so, I am allowed to go online from live cd?
[00:06] <Monotoko> celltech, if you remove the password functionality...it won't only be you
[00:06] <usr13> celltech: Don't be so lazy  :)
[00:06] <urlin2u> silverarrow, should be http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:06] <usr13> celltech: Why do you never want to enter a p assword?
[00:06] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I am yet again on the mac in the library
[00:07] <seanmc98> if i install gnome 3 does it get rid of the side bar like on unity?
[00:07] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I shall run back to the kitchen
[00:07] <celltech> I have nothing for a hacker to steal anyways. come on in and see how boring my life is :)
[00:07] <yeats> seanmc98: there is still a side bar in GNOME 3 - it's just different than unity
[00:07] <Monotoko> celltech, you would be okay with a hacker getting your passwords for everything you use..?
[00:08] <rawfodog> how do I check an entire directory of text files for a needle using grep ?
[00:08] <etfb> The recent dbus upgrade has broken my laptop's media keys.  How do I revert to the previous version?
[00:08] <celltech> don't care got nothing to hide
[00:08] <seanmc98> yeats, is it still accesable whenever our in any program?
[00:08] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, i did all that via livecd, and now i rebooted my normal xubuntu and it gave me a GRUB screen: minimal bashlike line editing is supported etcetc... followed by a terminal input sh:grub>
[00:08] <wildbat> oh ~ did he got hacked?XD
[00:08] <Monotoko> some people have a dangourous lack of security...
[00:09] <yeats> seanmc98: you might benefit from a google search of "gnome3 vs. unity" - there are *many* hits
[00:09] <Monotoko> *security concern
[00:09] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, are you familiar with the bootscript?
[00:09] <yeats> seanmc98: be warned that gnome 3 is generally not supported here ;-)
[00:09] <LiquidsnakeX> i have another question people and thanks alot for helping me
[00:09] <Tharlinn> nope first time i had to configure grub...
[00:10] <LiquidsnakeX> how much ubuntu consumes from the hard disk and will it work on an old laptop manufactured in 2004 or 2005 ?
[00:10] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, maybe I can live with a freshly installed lubuntu, and do no updates, I am at a loss here
[00:10] <rww> !requirements | LiquidsnakeX
[00:10] <seanmc98> yeats, where is it supported?
[00:11] <yeats> seanmc98: well, it's the default desktop in Fedora 15... aside from that, I don't know ;-)
[00:11] <LiquidsnakeX> yes rww i know but i want to ask those who really work on ubuntu and how do they feel about it
[00:11] <rww> LiquidsnakeX: Thankfully, we wrote a wikipage answering that :P
[00:11] <urlin2u> silverarrow, your choice, I would have that computer while running the live cd install on the web for updates. The script actually shows everything to be correct, but we reload the mbr at times in these situations.
[00:11] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, from my experience, Unity (the new windowing system in Ubuntu 11.04) won't work on old hardware, because it requires higher graphics capabilities.
[00:12] <seanmc98> ok and one Last question yeats is there a way to make it at login screen you can decide to boot ubuntu, ubuntu classic, and gnome?
[00:12] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, but the other flavours should be OK.
[00:12] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, run this script and pastebin it . http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:12] <LiquidsnakeX> thanks etfb i have 64mb graphic memory :/
[00:12] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, that might just do it, then...
[00:12] <silverarrow2> urlin2u,  well I have been connected to the web all three times i did install and reinstall, still I get this grub issue
[00:12] <yeats> seanmc98: "ubuntu classic" == "GNOME 2" and that is an option by default
[00:12] <LiquidsnakeX> i really want to try the full ubuntu 11.04
[00:13] <yeats> !classic | seanmc98
[00:13] <sagaci> LiquidsnakeX: ouch
[00:13] <LiquidsnakeX> thankf etfb what do you think really ? will it work or face difficulties ?
[00:13] <LiquidsnakeX> yes sagaci :///////////
[00:13] <LiquidsnakeX> no money to buy a new one really :/
[00:13] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, and I did mark of for downloading updates and all during install
[00:13] <PinkFreud> hey folks.  having a hell of a time with an ifupdown-configured wireless interface in natty.
[00:13] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, yes, I think it should be OK.  If that hardware can run the pretty graphics with wobbly windows and animated menus in Ubuntu 10.x and below, it can run Unity.
[00:14] <LiquidsnakeX> why it doesn't mention the minimum requirement of the needed video graphics in the requirements page
[00:14] <urlin2u> silverarrow, strange so it reboots to the install but after a update is run wont reboot. Lubuntu does not have the os-prober installed at times, run a sudo update-grub after any update to make sure it is reading the setup and making grub correct.
[00:14] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, oh - 64Mb, not 64Gb.  I misread.  Hmmmm...
[00:14] <PinkFreud> my requirements are simple: connect to a wpa2 network using the configuration in /etc/network/interfaces for wlan0.  This worked wonderfully in debian squeeze.
[00:14] <LiquidsnakeX> yes etfb :/// ... 64 Megabytes of graphics ://
[00:15] <PinkFreud> in natty, wlan0 is brought up at boot.  it never bothers connecting to the network, though.
[00:15] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, fully Etch-A-Sketch compatible, then...
[00:15] <LiquidsnakeX> is there any tool i can use to check my system whether it's ok or not for ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:15] <yeats> PinkFreud: what happens when you do 'dhclient wlan0'?
[00:16] <PinkFreud> yeats: won't help.  iwconfig shows that it's not associated.
[00:16] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, build a CD or USB key with the installation on it, then boot.  Don't Install Ubuntu, just choose the other option.  "Try Ubuntu" or something.
[00:16] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, it takes forever to do a full reinstall now, I'm shore you have better things to do than stay here on the irc
[00:16] <LiquidsnakeX> yes etfb i did that
[00:16] <PinkFreud> iw wlan0 scan shows me the network I want, but it's not associated.
[00:16] <LiquidsnakeX> i tried the live cd option
[00:16] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, so how did it go?
[00:16] <LiquidsnakeX> it ran smoothly
[00:16] <lazarus_> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=207192798388318292131.0004aa01af6748773e8f7&msa=0&ll=51.558503%2C-0.055275&spn=0.114195%2C0.298691
[00:16] <yeats> PinkFreud: you might undo your manual config and let networkmanager do the job...
[00:16] <urlin2u> silverarrow, thanks for your consideration, good luck. ;)
[00:17] <LiquidsnakeX> i guess everything looked ok etfb, i did some tests like using the microphone and so but it didn't work
[00:17] <PinkFreud> yeats: not interested in letting NM handle it.  is ifupdown broken in natty?
[00:17] <urlin2u> silverarrow, I'm just watching the Big Bang series.
[00:17] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, rule of thumb is: if things work perfectly on the LiveCD, they'll work in real life.  If they don't work on the LiveCD, they might still work in real life once you fiddle with the settings a bit.
[00:17] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, I like the series too, fun caracters
[00:18] <PinkFreud> yeats: interestingly, if I rmmod ath9k and it's dependencies, modprobe ath9k, and do 'start networking', it connects just fine.
[00:18] <urlin2u> silverarrow, it is entertaining.;)
[00:18] <PinkFreud> it'd be awesome if it could do this *without* manual intervention, though.  :/
[00:18] <LiquidsnakeX> thanks alot etfb
[00:18] <somto> hi I have a driver that ends in .tar.bz2 how do I install it?
[00:18] <edbian> PinkFreud: That's a simple script
[00:18] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, good luck with it.
[00:18] <PinkFreud> edbian: sure is.  there's simple scripts behind ifupdown, too.
[00:19] <etfb> somto, that will open with file-roller, the general-purpose zip program in Ubuntu.
[00:19] <PinkFreud> edbian: what I'd like to know is why do these not work?
[00:19] <LiquidsnakeX> thanks alot etfb i really need to get rid of this windows xp sh*t ( please don't laugh and mock me i am just another victim )
[00:19] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, maybe I will do the reinstall, and then check if you are still here
[00:19] <LasersDog> somto: You sure you need that driver?
[00:19] <somto> etfb: how do I get file-roller?
[00:19] <somto> lasersDog: yes
[00:19] <etfb> somto, you're running Ubuntu already?
[00:19] <PinkFreud> I literally just came from debian squeeze.  In fact, I still have squeeze installed on a different lv on this machine.
[00:19] <silverarrow2> urlin2u, it shall take at least half an hour I'm afraid
[00:19] <urlin2u> silverarrow, I will be on and off for awile.
[00:19] <edbian> PinkFreud: I use Debian :)
[00:20] <silverarrow2> I shall have the mac logged on,
[00:20] <urlin2u> cool
[00:20] <LasersDog> somto: Cool. You want to uncompress it using your default file archiver. Then read the README (or Notes) that came with it.
[00:20] <PinkFreud> ifupdown works just fine there.  in fact, it works just fine for the wired interface on this box in natty... it's just the wireless interface that's giving me a headache.
[00:20] <silverarrow2> it's too weird today, two computers acting up, or rather, I am not good with the mac lol
[00:21] <PinkFreud> is there something else that could be interfering with the wireless interface in ifupdown?
[00:21] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, got it!
[00:21] <Tharlinn> http://pastebin.com/y42Rme31
[00:21] <LiquidsnakeX> etfb why the microphone didn't work ?
[00:21] <urlin2u> silverarrow, I would install the os-prober when you get installed just to round up all the grub options.
[00:21] <LiquidsnakeX> is it a driver/ device problem ? or when i install ubuntu it will be fixed ?
[00:21] <PinkFreud> I find it bizarre that it sees my network, but refuses to connect until I rmmod and modprobe the driver
[00:22] <etfb> LiquidsnakeX, bunch of reasons.  Easy one: maybe you have input muted.  Harder one: maybe it needs special drivers.  Google for the exact model and "Ubuntu" and see what others have said.
[00:22] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: First thing to check: alsamixer    are any of the sliders muted?
[00:22] <edbian> PinkFreud: indeed.  What does dmesg say about things?
[00:22] <somto_> eftb: I want to install the .tar.bz2 but when I click the folder it shows me the insides which I dont think I need
[00:23] <PinkFreud> nothing much useful.  :/
[00:23] <LiquidsnakeX> no edbian there no sliders muted i even heard the ubuntu starting sound too
[00:23] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: What does the starting sound have to do with the microphone?
[00:23] <LasersDog> somto_: What is it you're trying to install? It sounds about right. Open the file. Uncompress. Read the README. Run the configure script. Install.
[00:24] <LiquidsnakeX> i thought that the sound systems are ok by hearing that sound
[00:24] <LiquidsnakeX> and the there is no problem concerning the drivers/device
[00:25] <Tharlinn> are you still here urlin2u?
[00:25] <PinkFreud> check that.  deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)
[00:25] <Athyria> Hey, anyone know off the top of their head, or have a good guide thing they can point me to regarding how to install grub, and only grub, from a live cd for an existing install?
[00:25] <urlin2u> Tharlinn,yep
[00:25] <Tharlinn> i have the bootscript pastebinned: http://pastebin.com/y42Rme31
[00:25] <somto_> lasersdog: its a wireless N driver for WPA support
[00:26] <LiquidsnakeX> i am suffering from this windows xp guys pls help me :(
[00:26] <LasersDog> somto_: If you can see the Wifi online just fine, you may be already using the proper driver.
[00:26] <Phong_> LiquidsnakeX, you have a lot of liquid?
[00:26] <LasersDog> somto_: I haven't had any experiences with Wireless N (nor do I have the router for that either). :)
[00:27] <LiquidsnakeX> Phong_ i have a lot of another thing if you don't buzz of
[00:27] <kvad12> Has anyone running Ubunto 11.04 had your boxes seemly kernal panic and spit this msg to the screen "fixing recrusive fault but reboot needed"
[00:27] <kvad12> These servers will run good for most of the week then crash
[00:27] <somto_> lasersdog: here is what I have http://linuxforums.org.uk/hardware-compatibility/ralink-rt2870-based-usb-wireless-n-adapters-(ubuntu)/
[00:28] <somto_> lasersdog: I have a ralink chipset. there has been a problem with my system in which two files
[00:28] <kvad12> They are running of some old boxes btw PowerEdge SC1425 if anyone is interestd. Can paste lshw if anyone is interested
[00:28] <maalac> hi guys, is there a way to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 ?
[00:28] <LasersDog> !upgrade > maalac (Also, see #ubuntu+1)
[00:28] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, that link is not completeing.
[00:29] <edbian> maalac: You have to go to 11.04 first.  11.10 is not out yet.
[00:29] <somto_> lasersdog:I already blacklisted the file and it works now but I want WPA support http://linuxforums.org.uk/hardware-compatibility/ralink-rt2870-based-usb-wireless-n-adapters-(ubuntu)/
[00:30] <maalac> edbian: hmm. i've downloaded its alpha 3 version. 11.04 lots of problems..
[00:30] <edbian> maalac: what?
[00:31] <silverarrow> Is it good for a hard drive to have os repeatedly install, over and over ?
[00:31] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://pastebin.com/y42Rme31
[00:31] <Tharlinn> it's down
[00:31] <LasersDog> somto_: Icic. You probably have to mess with it until you get it right.
[00:31] <centHOGG> silverarrow: is it a test rig
[00:31] <maalac> edbian: i don't want to go through 11.04. coz my laptop freezes on boot ..
[00:31] <somto_> lasersdog: ok so how do I install the driver?
[00:32] <edbian> maalac: Then just wait until october when 11.10 comes out
[00:32] <LasersDog> somto_: What does it say in the README or NOTES or EDIT/
[00:32] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, a error page now, are you just pasying it then saving then posting the http?
[00:32] <NS_tech> what do i type to reference my current directory?
[00:32] <urlin2u> pasting
[00:32] <LasersDog> somto_: I can't walk you through it.
[00:32] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, it worked fine, uploading to another pastebin site now
[00:33] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, strange stuff.
[00:33] <silverarrow> centHOGG, not really, more like a new hard drive, and lubuntu are acting up
[00:33] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, here you go
[00:33] <Tharlinn> http://pastie.org/2342279
[00:33] <centHOGG> silverarrow: do you know what SMART is
[00:33] <centHOGG> explore that
[00:34] <silverarrow> centHOGG, you are not mocking me now?
[00:34] <NS_tech> is this correct?        mkdir Sprocket's\ Playground
[00:34] <centHOGG> disk utility is a pretty good tool
[00:34] <centHOGG> uh no
[00:34] <LasersDog> !make | somto_
[00:34] <silverarrow> lol, sorry
[00:34] <centHOGG> silverarrow: id attribute 5 in SMART
[00:34] <NS_tech> what would be the correct syntax?
[00:34] <somto_> lasersdog: how do I searc for prebuild packages?
[00:35] <centHOGG> will tell you if a failure is pretty close
[00:35] <PinkFreud> edbian: now that I take a closer look at dmesg, it does reveal some rather strange goings-on
[00:35] <pingveno> Building Ubuntu 11.04's python2.7 package as a backport is running PyBench, which is unnecessary for me. How do I disable it?
[00:35] <urlin2u> tharlin this is natty xuxbuntu correct?
[00:35] <gry> There is "Administrator" and "Desktop user". Is there any documentation on creating my own "profile" like that?
[00:35] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you have xubuntu 11.o4 correct?
[00:36] <Tharlinn> yes
[00:36] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, are you using a 11.04 disc
[00:36] <Tharlinn> not a livecd no
[00:36] <Tharlinn> havent got one
[00:36] <PinkFreud> edbian: wlan0 is brought up, it finds the AP and associates, and then it disassocates (by local choice reason=3, which is 'WLAN_REASON_DEAUTH_LEAVING')
[00:36] <LasersDog> somto_: You should read wireless documentation first.
[00:36] <LasersDog> !wireless | somto_
[00:36] <PinkFreud> then, and only then, does cfg80211 bother updating the regulatory domain
[00:37] <somto_> lasersdog: thanks
[00:37] <LiquidsnakeX> i need help people, please anyone who has ubuntu 11.04 pls have a look at my laptop's specs and tell me can i use ubuntu 11.04 or no http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00284681&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=228&product=445340&sw_lang=
[00:37] <PinkFreud> this is particularly odd, since I explicitly told cfg80211 to use US via a module option
[00:37] <LiquidsnakeX> i am not trolling i swear
[00:37] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you will have to chroot in to do this or use a 11.04 disc grub has changed so a chroot gets you in the OS a disc =11.04 will work with original commands.
[00:37] <centHOGG> man i hope ubuntu 11.10 is a lot better
[00:38] <silverarrow> centHOGG, thanks for the SMART tip, I have unfortunately difficulties burning at the moment, due to a new mac I cannot figure out
[00:38] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, in the original link the 3rd opr=tion below the default is the chroot method.
[00:38] <NS_tech> what is the correct syntax to make the directory "Sprocket's Playground"
[00:38] <centHOGG> silverarrow: np
[00:38] <NS_tech> mkdir Sprocket's\ Playground
[00:38] <urlin2u> optional_, Tharlinn sorry
[00:38] <NS_tech> its only giving me a blank prompt
[00:39] <urlin2u> *option
[00:39] <silverarrow> centHOGG, macs are suppose to be able to burn, and in iso, but they are complicated
[00:39] <linuxuz3r> omg our galaxy has a super massive black hole in the middle
[00:39] <linuxuz3r> what should i do?
[00:39] <centHOGG> silverarrow: have you tried osx, to see if it works there?
[00:40] <silverarrow> osx is apple stuff?
[00:40] <centHOGG> yeah
[00:40] <Alucard_HS> hi all, does anyone knows how to move one active partition to another on the fly?
[00:40] <silverarrow> I am on the mac now, but I cannot find burner anywhere
[00:40] <urlin2u> Alucard_HS, gparted will set a bot flag
[00:40] <centHOGG> hmmm not sure
[00:41] <urlin2u> *boot
[00:41] <silverarrow> centHOGG, I usually have no  trouble with this either in windows, ubuntu, lubuntu, fedora, puppy....
[00:41] <LasersDog> silverarrow: Try right-click the ISO?  See what option it is there?
[00:42] <PinkFreud> uhgh.  I think the problem is NetworkManager.
[00:42] <PinkFreud> ... and this is why I refuse to use it.
[00:42] <Alucard_HS> urlin2u: well, I mean a used partition, someting like the /home partiton that belongs to the / fs
[00:42] <silverarrow> LasersDog, like under one of the icon on the down middle application bar?
[00:43] <LasersDog> silverarrow: Google "Burn OSX"  I mean "doube finger click" on the icon. Bring up the context menu.
[00:43] <silverarrow> LasersDog, are you on a mac? that might be helpful lol@
[00:43] <urlin2u> Alucard_HS, you only need active partitions for windows I don't understand.
[00:43] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, so use the chroot method described https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[00:43] <LasersDog> silverarrow: Right now? No. But I do own one.
[00:44] <silverarrow> LasersDog, trouble is I am new to this computer, though I have had of for nearly two months now
[00:44] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[00:44] <Alucard_HS> urlin2u: What I'm trying is copy all partition contents from one to another on the fly, in a transparent user mode... change the /home in sda1 to sda5
[00:45] <LasersDog> silverarrow: Don't install Ubuntu over OSX. Use Virtualbox for it.
[00:45] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you were correct.
[00:45] <PinkFreud> Pr070cal: uhm, I hate to fix obvious misspellings, but it's 'protocol'.  note the second-to-last char is an 'o', not an 'a'.  :)
[00:45] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, thanks, will report back
[00:46] <urlin2u> Alucard_HS, not really confident enough to risk help to tell you the truth.
[00:46] <somto_> lasersdog: I have build essentials. Can I use it to install the tar.bz2?
[00:46] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, no problem should work. ;)
[00:47] <silverarrow> LasersDog, I havent dared mess with the mac at all yet, lubuntu is for my laptop
[00:47] <Tharlinn> but urlin2u: step 1 already says "should be same release"
[00:47] <LasersDog> somto_: Yes. It is needed if you want to compile something. I don't have the needs to compile anything. I'm not the person to ask for that part. Did Wireless Documentation mention anything about Ralink models?
[00:47] <Alucard_HS> urlin2u: it's ok dude thank you, I'll keep going and get some extra info
[00:47] <LasersDog> silverarrow: BurnOSX, try that and let me know. :)
[00:47] <silverarrow> LasersDog, thanks for the tip though, I probably will before soon
[00:48] <somto_> lasersdog: I need to compile a tar.bz2
[00:48] <rrruffle> When I press my Volume Up key, my master volume gets raised in volume control. The headphones volume doesn't. I don't know how to fix this.
[00:48] <rrruffle> i dont like doing it manually
[00:48] <silverarrow> the guy who sold it to me told me I could have windows as dual boot, but  I declined
[00:48] <LasersDog> somto_: tar.bz2 is like .zip or .rar.  Uncompress them first.
[00:48] <LasersDog> somto_: Then you have to follow the instructions.
[00:49] <fission6> i have 10.04 why do i not seem to have the add-apt-repo command
[00:49] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, all I can say is that people do it all the time here this way. he good thing is that you can purge grub completely and reinstall. Personally  would just burn a 11.04 so you have one and use the first command set.
[00:49] <urlin2u> the
[00:49] <ldr> somto_ : you uncompress tar.bz2 by exec tar -xjf  filename.tar.bz2 on console
[00:50] <Tharlinn> hm
[00:50]  * Tharlinn looks around for a lingering xubuntu 11.04 disk.....
[00:50] <silverarrow> urlin2u, a few minutes still
[00:50]  * Tharlinn asks himself how the hell he installed it anyway...
[00:50] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, I never bother with a chroot i use supergrub to get in and renstall grub to the mbr from the desktop.
[00:50] <urlin2u> silverarrow, cool
[00:50] <somto_> ldr: ya I uncompressed it and installed build essentials. How do I use build essentials to install the uncompressed files?
[00:50] <urlin2u> silverarrow, you mentioned a new HD what is it?
[00:51] <rww> fission6: 1) it's add-apt-repository, not add-apt-repo, 2) do you have the python-software-properties package installed?
[00:51] <ldr> somto_ sorry i just joinded what exactly are you trying to accomplish? what do you want to install?
[00:51] <artemis> hey guys, i'm building a new pc and i think i might try using ubuntu on it, would anyone mind answering a few really noobish questions? i've been a windows user all my life but i'm sick and tired of it and i thought i might give linux a try
[00:52] <ldr> somto_ most of the time tar.bz2 images are source code images  which need to be installed by "./configure;make;make install"
[00:52] <centHOGG> artemis: welcome to linux
[00:52] <Kluren> join #davur
[00:52] <urlin2u> artemis, good nic.;)
[00:52] <somto_> ldr: I have a tar.bz2 that is meant to be installed. I have never installed anything in ubuntu in my life
[00:52] <edbian> artemis: here for ya
[00:52] <Darvince> #rowling is epical
[00:52] <edbian> artemis: What are your questions? :D
[00:53] <xXPhenomXx_> artemis: you will love it. Ive been dual booting Win7 with Ubuntu for a while and love it, now spend nearly all my time in Ubuntu
[00:53] <gry> Darvince: Pardon?
[00:53] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, are you familiar with supergrub
[00:53] <ldr> somto_ can i query you? maybe we can figure it  out
[00:53] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, ah now i know, i made a startup disk from usb
[00:53] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, can't say i am
[00:53] <NS_tech> what does this mean?   Unexpected error: Error renaming temporary file: Text file busy
[00:53] <xXPhenomXx_> file open or still in use by another process
[00:54] <artemis> thanks guys! first question - i'm building a gaming rig, so the new computer is going to be used almost exclusively for gaming and some web browsing, etc... how is stuff like steam and starcraft 2 going to work in ubuntu? do i have to get like an emulator or something?
[00:54] <kvad12> NS_tech u can do a lsof | grep <file> and see who still has it open.
[00:54] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, this should get you into the desktop where we can reinstall grub, just a option, can be loaded to a thumb.  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[00:55] <edbian> artemis: Games (for the most part) on windows do not work in Linux.  This is the weakest thing about linux in my opinion.  We have wine (which is not amazing for performance) that allows you to run some windows .exes   it is hit or miss there is a massive community for it: winehq.com
[00:55] <kvad12> artemis if its a gaming machine u should stick with windows
[00:55] <xXPhenomXx_> Gaming = Windows for sure
[00:55] <NS_tech> no information is coming back
[00:55] <somto_> ldr: I have a tar.bz2 that is meant to be installed. I have never installed anything in ubuntu in my life
[00:55] <edbian> artemis: You might also check out open source games (that aren't quite as good as proprietary games) that do run on linux
[00:56] <edbian> artemis: Yeah, linux != gaming :(
[00:56] <yuka> guys does anybody know whats wrong here : http://www.shrani.si/?2Y/aT/1OdX4Vw8/nvidiaproblem.jpg
[00:56] <user__> can anyone help me switch my ubuntu system to another language
[00:56] <user__> ?
[00:56] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, so instead of a bootusb with xubuntu 11.04, just made a bootusb with supergrub2?
[00:56] <artemis> ahh that sucks... that really is a shame, i've kinda been looking forward to using ubuntu
[00:56] <PinkFreud> ok, I'm about to give up on natty.
[00:57] <xXPhenomXx_> I'd still setup a dual boot and check it out!
[00:57] <yeats> !locale | user__
[00:57] <centHOGG> artemis: use ubuntu for socializing mostly
[00:57] <edbian> artemis: Try it out anyway there is room for more than one OS on your system.
[00:57] <centHOGG> ubuntu desktop
[00:57] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, it is a option, you have grub 1.87-1.98 in the mbr bur=t grub 1.99 in the OS should get you in if not the 11.04 disc will work.
[00:57] <ladder99> is anyone familiar with open office spreadsheet
[00:57] <urlin2u> 1.97
[00:57] <artemis> how exactly do you set up a dual boot? what does it do?
[00:58] <PinkFreud> I've spent hours on trying to track down this wifi issue to no avail.  at this point, I'm about ready to declare it a loss and switch back to squeeze.
[00:58] <edbian> artemis: dual boot means that when you start the computer it asks if you wanna boot windows or linux
[00:58] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, ok i will try the 11.04 bootusb first then
[00:58] <edbian> PinkFreud: do it
[00:58] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, the supergrub download is like 100mb
[00:58] <NS_tech> lsof | grep <file>   yield no information
[00:58] <urlin2u> fatser
[00:58] <NS_tech> i got nothing back
[00:58] <edbian> artemis: The ubuntu installer makes it pretty dead simple to set up.  'install alongside windows' is an option at install time
[00:58] <urlin2u> faster
[00:58] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, nah it was only 1.4mb
[00:58] <Tharlinn> supergrub2 hybrid.iso
[00:58] <kvad12> artemis check out http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-11-04-with-windows-7
[00:58] <PinkFreud> edbian: before I do, any further ideas on what might be failing?
[00:58] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, I new ir=t was small a excellent tool.
[00:59] <kvad12> it will get u started on what ull end up doing
[00:59] <edbian> PinkFreud: I have no clue.  I hate CLI wifi :P
[00:59] <Tharlinn> ok supergrub2 it is
[00:59] <artemis> alrighty, thank you very much for your time guys, i really appreciate it! :)
[00:59] <edbian> artemis: sure
[00:59] <kvad12> artemis: lates
[00:59] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, when you boot the thumb just choose boot any OS or something like that.
[00:59] <clubk1d> Hi, im using an ubuntu server and I want to execute a .jar from a browser remotely. do I have to enable apache first?
[00:59] <user__> is anyone in this chat?
[01:00] <PinkFreud> edbian: beh.  I hate NM.
[01:00] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, was about to ask which option to choose indeed
[01:00] <edbian> PinkFreud: me too
[01:00] <gry> user__: I would think so, since some people talk right now.
[01:00] <ladder99> send IM if you can help me with a spreadsheet pleas
[01:00] <PinkFreud> but that being said, it looks like there's clearly an issue here - whether it's natty's ifupdown or if it'a a kernel driver race, I don't know yet.
[01:00] <centHOGG> clubk1d: did you try installing the LAMP setup
[01:00] <gry> !details | ladder99
[01:01] <edbian> ladder99: Just state your question.
[01:01] <edbian> !ask | ladder99
[01:01] <urlin2u> ladder99, I doubt you will get help here with that but you never know
[01:01] <PinkFreud> I'm just certain that I don't want to invest the amount of time that this appears to require to track down an issue that doesn't exist in other distributions.
[01:01] <ladder99> how to put everything in numerical order
[01:02] <silverarrow> urlin2u, it is now downloading the packages, during installation process, there is nothing to worry about right now is it?
[01:02] <edbian> ladder99: highlight the column and do tools -> sort
[01:02] <clubk1d> centHOGG: not yet, eventhough I only want to execute this .jar file do I really need to install LAMP?
[01:02] <edbian> PinkFreud: :P
[01:02] <centHOGG> idk
[01:02] <silverarrow> too late or too early to do something anyway
[01:02] <urlin2u> silverarrow, shouldn't be you mentioned a new hD is it the one for Lubuntu and what is it?
[01:03] <silverarrow> urlin2u,  yes, a new HD
[01:03] <silverarrow> I booted in ferdora, but nothing really wroing with it
[01:03] <urlin2u> silverarrow, I ask the model as there are a few not compatible.
[01:03] <ladder99> thank you i know dumb question
[01:04] <urlin2u> silverarrow, firmware problems
[01:04] <NS_tech> i nned some help here
[01:04] <silverarrow> urlin2u, it is an IDE western electric or something like that
[01:04] <edbian> !ask | NS_tech
[01:04] <induz> How can i repair my ThunderBird as it crashes after i open it'
[01:04] <edbian> ladder99: :)
[01:04] <NS_tech> im getting an error Unexpected error: Error renaming temporary file: Text file busy
[01:04] <induz> I am on Ubuntu 10.4
[01:04] <edbian> NS_tech: You have some other program with that file open
[01:04] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I didnt know a hard drive could be incompatible?
[01:05] <centHOGG> induz: remove you current thunderbird profile and try it again, it should be in your mozilla folder
[01:05] <urlin2u> silverarrow, a few have firmware that cause problems.
[01:05] <induz> please help me as my emails are in there and it crashes centHOGG
[01:05] <silverarrow> I see
[01:05] <induz> centHOGG, how
[01:05] <PinkFreud> right.  I'm done.  if I'm feeling masochistic enough, perhaps I'll try 11.10 when it's released.
[01:06] <silverarrow> urlin2u, one more factor to worry about
[01:06] <centHOGG> induz: PM me
[01:06] <urlin2u> silverarrow, very rare but just thinking.
[01:07] <NS_tech> what is the command to see who is using a file?
[01:07] <silverarrow> urlin2u, important to take into  consideration, especially if it is related to grub issues
[01:09] <jrib> NS_tech: fuser and lsof
[01:09] <edbian> NS_tech: not 'who'  but 'what processes'
[01:09] <NS_tech> yeah
[01:09] <urlin2u> silverarrow, looking on the web seagates western digital have some models that are problematic, if this happens again I would contact the manufacturer to find out more, I think yours is a western digital
[01:09] <NS_tech> what is the syntax for fuser?
[01:09] <jrib> NS_tech: do you know about man pages?
[01:09] <silverarrow> centHOGG, this mac is really cool in many ways, but I have a feeling it is overpriced for what it really is
[01:10] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Do you want to keep the current Windows install?
[01:11] <NS_tech> yeah  but when i type it in,  i am getting no output
[01:11] <silverarrow> urlin2u, is there a way to check for model without a lot of unscrewing and disassembling ?
[01:11] <NS_tech> it keeps returning to a prompt
[01:11] <xXPhenomXx_> dmidecode
[01:11] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, i now have a xubuntu livecd apparently
[01:11] <Tharlinn> halp
[01:11] <urlin2u> silverarrow, not sure really, probably isn't the problem but one never knows.
[01:12] <Tharlinn> i did the supergrubdisk2, and now it shows 'try xubuntu without installing' etcetc
[01:12] <jrib> NS_tech: when you type what in?
[01:12] <edbian> Tharlinn: hahaha
[01:12] <rosco_y> does anyone know of a stopwatch-type-thingy?
[01:12] <silverarrow> urlin2u, trouble right now is consistent, booting after installing first time updates will result in failure
[01:12] <NS_tech> fuser doubleMe.hs
[01:12] <NS_tech> it returns a new prompt
[01:12] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, do you have the cd in the disc reader
[01:13] <rosco_y> click to start, click to stop type thingy
[01:13] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Do you want to keep the current Windows install?
[01:13] <NS_tech> sprocket@Sprockets-Playground:/media/sf_B34STLY/Playground/Haskell$ fuser doubleMe.hs
[01:13] <NS_tech> sprocket@Sprockets-Playground:/media/sf_B34STLY/Playground/Haskell$
[01:13] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, no
[01:13] <Tharlinn> just my bootusb with supergrub2disk
[01:13] <Tharlinn> i am not stupid :/
[01:13] <Tharlinn> :p
[01:13] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, strange is there a iso on the computer?
[01:13] <Tharlinn> not that i know
[01:14] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, try the other options
[01:14] <jrib> NS_tech: use sudo; if nothing shows up, that means nothing is using it
[01:14] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, well
[01:14] <Tharlinn> we can do as if i did a xubuntu 11.04 livecd
[01:14] <Tharlinn> because that is where i am now
[01:14] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, in the supergrub menu
[01:14] <Tharlinn> i did not see a supergrub menu
[01:15] <Tharlinn> it went straight to the 'livecd' screen with 'try without installing' etc
[01:15] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, did you load the xubuntu iso instaed
[01:15] <Tharlinn> maybe.. >:3
[01:15] <edbian> Tharlinn: clearly... :P
[01:15] <LiquidsnakeX> edbian : i don't want to have both os"s" at the same time i just want to install and use one
[01:15] <Tharlinn> but this is impossible
[01:15] <Tharlinn> ok well
[01:15] <Tharlinn> retry :D
[01:15] <LiquidsnakeX> if i wanted to go back to win xp professional will it be easy ?
[01:16] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Then what are you asking?
[01:16] <gimpy1382> I'm having a weird issue.  I SSH to another box with X11 forwarding and issue the command 'firefox', but my LOCAL firefox starts, not the one from the server.  What gives?  This only appears to happen with firefox.
[01:16] <NS_tech> i am still getting thte same error
[01:16] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, boot in and do yu want the exact defaulkt fro the commands, you want to make sure you run the sudo fdisk command to make sure the OS is sda not sdb.
[01:16] <hydester> urlin2u: do firefox wqith --no-remote parameter
[01:16] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Umm, if you install windows after linux it's a bit of a pain.  The easiest thing is probably to dual boot.  That way you can go back much easier
[01:16] <urlin2u> hydester, what?
[01:16] <jrib> gimpy1382: pass -no-remote to firefox
[01:16] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, is this with the 11.04iso on the bootusb or with the supergrub2disk on the bootusb
[01:16] <hydester> urlin2u: whoops, i meant gimpy1382
[01:16] <LiquidsnakeX> how painful will it be ? pls tell me
[01:17] <NS_tech> it still returned nothing but i am still getting an error
[01:17] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: It's easiest if you dual boot right now.
[01:17] <jrib> NS_tech: "an error"?
[01:17] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: setting up dual boot is very easy
[01:17] <LiquidsnakeX> cant man the laptop cannot support this i know
[01:17] <NS_tech> Unexpected error: Error renaming temporary file: Text file busy
[01:17] <gimpy1382> jrib: Thanks.
[01:17] <NS_tech> when i save the file
[01:17] <LiquidsnakeX> but cutting another partition for another os is just devastating for this crap laptop
[01:17] <jrib> NS_tech: what gives you that error?
[01:17] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you van boot the 11.04 and we can run the commands, we just want to make sure we know how the HD looks. when you boot a thumb at times it becomes sda
[01:18] <NS_tech> gedit when i save a file
[01:18] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: having multiple partitions will not effect performance of the machine
[01:18] <jrib> NS_tech: where does this file reside?
[01:18] <LiquidsnakeX> no no i mean i dont have enough space
[01:18] <LiquidsnakeX> it's just 55 gb totally
[01:18] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Then it will be fine.
[01:18] <andantino1> question: is there anything wrong with creating a partition on the center of your drive and installing there?
[01:18] <LiquidsnakeX> 30 for os and 25 for me data movies and some songs i just my laptop as a netbook
[01:18] <edbian> andantino1: No
[01:18] <NS_tech> /media/sf_B34STLY/Playground/Haskell
[01:19] <andantino1> that should not create a problem then ed?
[01:19] <jrib> NS_tech: is this a cifs/smbfs mount?
[01:19] <edbian> andantino1: How dare you guess my name!!! :P    No it won't cause any problems
[01:19] <NS_tech> i dont know what cifs/smbfs means
[01:19] <silverarrow> urlin2u, weird though; first boot after install message; error out of disk
[01:19] <edbian> andantino1: You could arrange the partitions to draw a picture if you want.
[01:19] <jrib> NS_tech: see if you're experiencing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/34813
[01:19] <Renier1> Hello there, masters of the codes, I was wondering if perhaps you could shed some light on something that I keep getting stuck on.. I simply can't seem to figure out what it's telling me that I am doing wrong here: http://i.imgur.com/8xV16.png any idea?
[01:19] <NS_tech> its on my hard drive outside my VirualBox
[01:20] <andantino1> is there any advantage to that ed?
[01:20] <urlin2u> silverarrow, wow not sure at that.
[01:20] <silverarrow> urlin2u, might be bios settings
[01:20] <maxwellc> is there any way to cd to a specific folder if i dont know what its called?
[01:20] <LiquidsnakeX> edbian i can't keep my eyes open
[01:20] <edbian> andantino1: The picture will look nice and make you happy.
[01:20] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, what do you mean with 'a thumb' and what do you mean with 'at times it becomes sda'
[01:20] <NS_tech> i am running windows with VirtualBox Ubuntu guest  and the folder is mounted to the vbox to allow me to write ot the windows drive
[01:20] <LiquidsnakeX> i am really exhausted i will continue tomorrow thanks alot mate
[01:20] <andantino1> thats reason enough for me
[01:20] <Tharlinn> all my drives on that box are sda
[01:20] <urlin2u> maxagaz, you have to know the folder I believe.
[01:20] <edbian> maxwellc: you can list folders using ls and learn what it is called
[01:20] <andantino1> lets do this
[01:21] <jrib> NS_tech: similar: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594162
[01:21] <edbian> LiquidsnakeX: Have a good night
[01:21] <edbian> andantino1: hahaha
[01:21] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, your using a usb drive right?
[01:21] <Tharlinn> yes
[01:21] <maxwellc> edbian: say i was making an automated script to download the latest build of a program
[01:21] <Tharlinn> is that a 'thumb'
[01:21] <NS_tech> so what is the fix?
[01:21] <edbian> maxwellc: ....
[01:22] <edbian> maxwellc: I follow so far
[01:22] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, called a thumb drive as well. sda is the identification of a HD,
[01:22] <edbian> NS_tech: you were using haskell ?  Do you have any haskell processes running?
[01:22] <jrib> NS_tech: read the comment threads in those two links
[01:22] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, sda1 would be a partition on the HD.
[01:22] <maxwellc> edbian: and i wanted to automatically untar the tar.gz file which has a folder in it
[01:22] <NS_tech> i did but i exited them and it still erroring
[01:22] <maxwellc> adn then cd to that folder
[01:23] <jrib> NS_tech: well reading them would not change anything on your system
[01:23] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, yeah i know that but you said ' when you boot a thumb at times it becomes sda' as if it was changing
[01:23] <edbian> maxwellc: What is the name of the .tar.gz  ?
[01:23] <NS_tech> no i was answering edbian
[01:23] <maxwellc> webmin-current.tar.gz has a folder in it called webmin-1.460
[01:24] <jrib> !who | NS_tech
[01:24] <NS_tech> i am not runnign any haskell processes
[01:24] <edbian> NS_tech: look at ps -e  to see if one is stuck even though you exited it
[01:24] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, ok so i am now ready to boot the thumb with xub11.04, which guide should i follow? the ChRoot?
[01:24] <edbian> maxwellc: mmm, version number
[01:24] <maxwellc> yes sir
[01:24] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, right when a usb device is used at times it becomes the first drive listed. your hd is sda normally but may become sdb instead.In that link you first used s a command  sudo fdsik-l this will list the drives so we can see how the hd on the computer is being read.
[01:24] <Tharlinn> ah yes i see!
[01:24] <Tharlinn> thankjs
[01:24] <urlin2u> is a command
[01:25] <edbian> maxwellc: You can say files=$(*)   while will be an array of all the files, since you extracted it into an empty file $files[0] will be your filename
[01:25] <edbian> maxwellc: make sense?
[01:25] <maxwellc> not realy
[01:25] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, in other words the drives do a switcherooo.; )
[01:25] <Tharlinn> yeah :)
 urlin2u, ok so i am now ready to boot the thumb with xub11.04, which guide should i follow? the ChRoot?
[01:26] <edbian> maxwellc: what part don't you get ?
[01:26] <NS_tech> none of them seem to be haskell proccesses
[01:26] <Tharlinn> or the normal LiveCD method
[01:26] <edbian> NS_tech: IDk, just restart :P
[01:26] <bambanx> hello
[01:26] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I am exhausted, I shall have to take a break, sleep a bit
[01:26] <maxwellc> edbian: nevermind
[01:26] <edbian> maxwellc: ok :)
[01:27] <silverarrow> urlin2u, give it a new go tomorrow
[01:27] <maxwellc> edbian: thanks man
[01:27] <edbian> maxwellc: sure
[01:27] <NS_tech> would a differnt text editor be more efficent
[01:27] <NS_tech> ?
[01:27] <edbian> maxwellc: That's not perfect syntax fyi
[01:27] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, no the first one I sent, from a live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files     notice the sudo fdsk -l command and switch to sdb if the HD where the install is if reading that way.
[01:27] <maxwellc> k
[01:27] <Tharlinn> yeah
[01:27] <Tharlinn> ok
[01:27]  * Tharlinn gets ready for lift off..
[01:27] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I think it is good to get the disc checked too
[01:27] <edbian> NS_tech: I don't know why you're asking that.  All text editors are of the same effeciency
[01:27] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, I think you nhave got it.
[01:28] <urlin2u> silverarrow, hard to say, it may be a not compatible model, hard to say, the disc should have the info on the exterior of it.
[01:28] <silverarrow> LasersHOG, thanks for help too
[01:28] <NS_tech> i am still learning
[01:29] <silverarrow> urlin2u, trouble is I have installed it lol
[01:29] <NS_tech> didnt know if maybe one might save over a file still in use or sumthing
[01:29] <urlin2u> silverarrow, in a laptop eh?
[01:29] <edbian> NS_tech: oh, yeah that's a strange error.   I don't think it has to do with the text editor
[01:29] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I need a set of screw irons to get to it, yes laptops lol
[01:30] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, nope, main hdd is still sda
[01:30] <NS_tech> i found a workaround
[01:30] <urlin2u> silverarrow, I have a netbook I di=on't even know where the hd is I will donate it if it breaks
[01:30] <NS_tech> it was in the error notes
[01:30]  * diamonds sighs
[01:30] <bambanx> how can i get my public ipon ubuntu server?
[01:30] <edbian> NS_tech: good :)
[01:30] <diamonds> my wireless won't connect to my network
[01:31] <diamonds> wireless modem is working, it sees the network
[01:31] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, cool notice the second command has a natty version.
[01:32] <diamonds> but it's wpa-psk, and it just keeps prompting for pasword
[01:32] <diamonds> it worked yesterday, so I know it works
[01:32] <Tharlinn> the --boot-directory=/mnt/boot
[01:32] <urlin2u> tharlin the one ending with just sda there are two use the natty one.
[01:32] <Tharlinn> yes
[01:32] <diamonds> hell it worked today
[01:32] <Tharlinn> ok
[01:32] <silverarrow> urlin2u, it is probably fairly easy to get to it, but you need a clear head, and some time. If there is no separate lid for it under, access to it is usually from main lid under, or from under the keyboard
[01:32] <Tharlinn> i rebooted
[01:32] <edbian> diamonds: then you're typing the wrong password :P
[01:32] <edbian> diamonds: caps lock?
[01:32] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, now i am in the bashlike editing again
[01:32] <diamonds> edbian: I don't think so..
[01:32] <diamonds> I'm copy/pasting directly from the router settings :p
[01:32] <Tharlinn> this time it is 1.99, and the shell is 'grub>'
[01:33] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you mean commands no bash there.
[01:33] <edbian> diamonds: I don't know! :/
[01:33] <Tharlinn> yeah i meant that
[01:33] <Tharlinn> i am in the grub> phase
[01:33] <Tharlinn> what do i do :/
[01:33] <silverarrow> urlin2u,  only laptops I find difficult, is HPs, the plastic is attached to all kinds of hooks and snappons, not just screws
[01:33] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, so reboot the usb and I willl paste the commands and you can copy and paste them.
[01:34] <bambanx> guys how can i get my public ip ?
[01:34] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, you mean get back in the livecd?
[01:34] <diamonds> bambanx: whatismyip.com
[01:34] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, I thought that is where you were going and going to run the commands you did the first time.
[01:34] <cconstantine> I just installed ubuntu 10.4, and I can't seem to get 'screen-launcher' installed.  it isn't a package name, and isn't installed along with screen
[01:34] <diamonds> or something like it
[01:34] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, yes i did
[01:34] <edbian> bambanx: http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[01:35] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, but it said reboot and i thought it was fixed so i pulled the usb out :/
[01:35] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, I suspect an error so I suggest I just paste the commands
[01:35] <Renier1> Hey there, people. Was wondering if perhaps you could shed some light on something that I keep getting stuck on.. I simply can't seem to figure out what it's telling me that I am doing wrong here: http://i.imgur.com/8xV16.png any idea? There's a reward in kudos/karma :P
[01:35] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, nah it said grub was installed correctly
[01:35] <Tharlinn> in the terminal in the livecd
[01:35] <silverarrow> urlin2u, I am looking for the ideal laptop for Ubuntu or lubuntu
[01:36] <bambanx> thx edbian but my computer with ubuntu server dont have graphics
[01:36] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, you ran 2 commands correct
[01:36] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, can you poat the cammands you ran
[01:36] <edbian> bambanx: use w3m
[01:36] <urlin2u> post
[01:36] <Tharlinn> sudo fdisk -l
[01:36] <Tharlinn> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:37] <Tharlinn> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[01:37] <bambanx> what is
[01:37] <bambanx> is a browser?
[01:37] <edbian> Tharlinn: --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/
[01:37] <edbian> bambanx: cli browser yes
[01:37] <Tharlinn> then the wiki is damn cross
[01:37] <Tharlinn> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[01:37] <Tharlinn> Example: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[01:37] <Tharlinn> in the example, the /boot is missing! >:o
[01:38] <edbian> Tharlinn: --boot-directory or --root-directory is not a choice you get to make. It depends on the version of grub.  in 11.04 it's --boot-directory
[01:38] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, those are the correct commands, you might run the bootscript again so we can see your work it will show whether the correct grub is in the mbr.
[01:38] <edbian> Tharlinn: You can throw a --recheck on there too if you want.
[01:39] <hydester> hi.  i have a subnet sitting behind a linux box that is acting as a router.  my house router has a static route via the linux GW, but i can only get to it from another machine after pinging the linux gw.  so it seems that it only can get there if it is in the arp table.  any idea why this is happening and how to fix it?
[01:39] <rastamanganjaman> yo !!
[01:39] <urlin2u> edbian, yeah I forgot that I don't have that command on my cheat sheert.
[01:39] <edbian> urlin2u: :)
[01:39] <urlin2u> sheet
[01:39] <Tharlinn> edbian, sorry
[01:39] <Tharlinn> i pasted wrong
[01:39] <edbian> Tharlinn: it's ok
[01:39] <Tharlinn> here
[01:39] <Tharlinn> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[01:39] <Tharlinn> Example: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Tharlinn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Tharlinn> ffs
[01:39] <Tharlinn> this one
[01:39] <Tharlinn> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX
[01:39] <edbian> looks great
[01:40] <bambanx> edbian: my pc with the server is not with me right now, can i do the things with ssh way ?
[01:40] <edbian> missing /dev/sda on the lest one
[01:40] <Tharlinn> yeah but the example shows no /mnt/boot
[01:40] <Tharlinn> it shows /mnt
[01:40] <Tharlinn> no /boot
[01:40] <edbian> bambanx: yes, ssh to it, run w3m http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/
[01:40] <bambanx> i need cofig ssh first
[01:41] <edbian> bambanx: You can't turn ssh on remotely (or we'd have a huge security problem)
[01:41] <bambanx> i knwo i need to go to my other pc now
[01:41] <bambanx> i am looking for a tutorial for config ssh
[01:42] <Tharlinn> so was it with or without the /boot :(
[01:42] <edbian> Tharlinn: look at man grub-install which option is listed --root-directory or --boot-directory  ?
[01:42] <Tharlinn> because the last time i did it with the /boot, grub got installed in a /boot/boot/grub dir
[01:43] <edbian> Tharlinn: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:43] <Tharlinn> xub 11.04
[01:43] <edbian> Then you have --boot-directory
[01:43] <Tharlinn> yes but that is not what the question is about
[01:43] <bambanx> edbian you have a good tutorial for congi ssh ?
[01:43] <Tharlinn> i know you use --boot-directory
[01:43] <edbian> Tharlinn: Your command: sudo grub-install --recheck --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ /dev/sda
[01:43] <edbian> bambanx: sudo apt-get install openssh-server    (that's it)
[01:44] <Tharlinn> ah ok - with the /boot after the =/mnt
[01:44] <Tharlinn> that was my question
[01:44] <edbian> Tharlinn: yes
[01:44] <edbian> Tharlinn: yes I know
[01:44] <bambanx> yes but i need config too?
[01:44] <edbian> bambanx: There is no other config necessary (what do you want to change?)
[01:44] <bambanx> i  have installed open ssh
[01:44] <Tharlinn> because in the example on the wiki, there is no =/mnt/boot, therefore the example is wrong
[01:44] <edbian> bambanx: Then you can ssh to that machine
[01:44] <edbian> Tharlinn: Can you give a link ?
[01:45] <Tharlinn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy LiveCD Files
[01:45] <Tharlinn> grr
[01:45] <edbian> Tharlinn: reading...
[01:45] <bambanx> i am on windows now and my server on ubuntu , what ssh program is good for windos?
[01:45] <Matt_799> where can i read #ubuntu logs
[01:45] <Tharlinn> edbian, this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[01:46] <Tharlinn> at the 5th point, there is a difference between old and natty, the natty example is faulty i believe
[01:46] <edbian> Tharlinn: If you have the older version and user --root-director you do not put the /boot   if you have the newer version and use --boot-directory you DO have /boot after /mtn
[01:46] <Tharlinn> ok
[01:46] <edbian> bambanx: putty
[01:46] <bambanx> rgr
[01:46] <Tharlinn> then the example might be faulty
[01:46] <bambanx> i download now
[01:46] <bambanx> thanks edbian you are my hero
[01:46] <bambanx> haha
[01:46] <edbian> Tharlinn: who cares, let's get your system working and then worry about that
[01:46] <edbian> bambanx: ha sure
[01:46] <Tharlinn> edbian, yes, priorities, thanks
[01:47] <edbian> Tharlinn: I see the error.  The brown box above it is correct.
[01:47] <Tharlinn> ok
[01:47] <edbian> Tharlinn: Did you run the command?  What is the original error?
[01:47] <edbian> Tharlinn: I will edit it now
[01:48] <Tharlinn> i ran the command
[01:48] <Tharlinn> it was fine
[01:48] <Tharlinn> installation was succesful
[01:48] <Tharlinn> no errors
[01:48] <edbian> Tharlinn: Did it fix your problem? (you probably have to restart to know for sure)
[01:48] <edbian> Tharlinn: no errors, good sign :D
[01:48] <Tharlinn> i still have to do the last step via livecd
[01:48] <Tharlinn> update grub i think
[01:48] <Matt_799> which bot logs the channel?
[01:48] <edbian> Tharlinn: yeah probably a good idea, sudo update-grub
[01:49] <Matt_799> nevermind, if anyone is intrested? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <astro5> i just edited grub2 to have a custom menu, but i don't know how to edit the first menu entry under /etc/grub.d/10_linux...i don't want all the kernel stuff listed after the title
[01:51] <Anom01y> !java
[01:51] <bambanx> i have ready putty edbian:
[01:51] <astro5> if i just make a custom menu only and get rid of grub.d/10_linux will that make my grub2 menu a black and white text only?
[01:51] <urlin2u> edbian, Tharlinn don't run a update-grub from the live cd
[01:51] <bambanx> i need a host of my server
[01:52] <edbian> urlin2u: a-ha :)
[01:52] <edbian> bambanx: good :)
[01:52] <bambanx> what is my host :S
[01:52] <edbian> bambanx: Yeah, you need to know your public ip :)
[01:52] <edbian> bambanx: If you don't know you probably don't have one.
[01:52] <bambanx> i can i know?
[01:53] <bambanx> ifconfig?
[01:53] <edbian> bambanx: You buy a domain name: http://www.networksolutions.com/
[01:53] <edbian> bambanx: There is no way
[01:53] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, then what do i do
[01:53] <bambanx> i have a domain
[01:53] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, i still cant boot my normal hdd
[01:53] <edbian> bambanx: then point it at your server's public IP
[01:53] <bambanx> but not configured yet on my server
[01:53] <bambanx> this is what i try lol
[01:54] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, if the commands are run correctly a reboot is all you need a update-grub is run in the booted OS. Did you run a update-grub before from the live cd it will break the commands just run?
[01:54] <edbian> bambanx: This is a network problem.  You need to configure the routers and such
[01:54] <edbian> bambanx: I think the server is fine
[01:55] <Tharlinn> urlin2u, i did the commands posted above (without sudo update-grub) via livecd. then rebooted to main hdd and still stuck on xubuntu loading
[01:55] <bambanx> look i installed ubuntu  server on my other machine with apache and mysql  and i configured for static ip, now i need to know how can i acces to the pages ... on my server
[01:56] <edbian> Tharlinn: If xubuntu is beginning to load grub is not the issue
[01:56] <edbian> bambanx: what ip did you give it?
[01:56] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, okay so have you carefully read the instructions on the page?  I can only guess otherwise without seeing a new bootscript run.
[01:56] <bambanx> following a tutorial is some like 192.168....
[01:57] <Anom01y> anyone know how to get java to work on Firefox ?
[01:57] <edbian> bambanx: You need to tell your router to port forward
[01:57] <Tharlinn> ok! i now got into the GRUB of the main hdd! i let it load the main kernel installed and now it says: starting load fallback graphics devices [fail] but continues loading, and now hangs on checking battery state
[01:57] <Anom01y> er the Java plugin for firfox
[01:57] <FazzyPlax> I need some help switching over from a wubi ubuntu boot to a dualboot Ubuntu-Windows...
[01:57] <bambanx> how ?
[01:57] <xangua> !java | Anom01y
[01:57] <edbian> bambanx: it needs to forward port 80 and mysql (whatever port that is) to 192.168.your.server
[01:57] <bambanx> ok
[01:57] <edbian> bambanx: put the router's IP address into your web browser's URL bar
[01:57] <Anom01y> !parter
[01:58] <Anom01y> hmm
[01:58] <bambanx> i am not on the pc server now
[01:58] <bambanx> the other pc dont have any graphics
[01:58] <edbian> bambanx: then you probably can't edit the router config
[01:59] <bambanx> =(
[01:59] <edbian> bambanx: sorry :(
[02:00] <bambanx> and how do other guys its needs graphics on ubuntu server?
[02:00] <bambanx> any way with console?
[02:00] <Tharlinn> aaaaand gentlemen: it all works perfectly now
[02:00] <Renier1> Hey there, does anyone here perhaps have any website hosting experience that they would like to share?
[02:01] <edbian> bambanx: if you had a more professional router you could but I'm guessing (based on your IP scheme) that you do not and therefore need a gui to configure it
[02:01] <Tharlinn> my thanks go out to everyone, but especially urlin2u and edbian.
[02:01] <rww> !ot | Renier1
[02:01] <Tharlinn> have a pleasant nice gentlemen and women
[02:01] <bigtom21485> how do i get frostwire on 10.10 x64?
[02:01] <wols> bambanx: you can. either use a ssh port forward or possibly even a text mode browser in ssh
[02:01] <Tharlinn> night*
[02:01] <Renier1> .. Alright.
[02:01] <bambanx> for ssh i need my host
[02:01] <edbian> Tharlinn: sure
[02:02] <bambanx> an i ont know what is my host of my server
[02:02] <bambanx> how can i know?
[02:02] <urlin2u> Tharlinn, no problem.
[02:02] <wols> define "what is my host". makes not much sense
[02:02] <Renier1> Well, I was wondering, as I am trying to host on my home Ubuntu system, but thanks for the assumption and the lame gtfo command there, mate.
[02:02] <wols> Renier1: then ask about your ubuntu and not some hoster experience, duh!
[02:03] <bambanx> i have putty now on this pc my other pc is with ubuntu server no grapchis , i installed it with apache and mysql nothing more
[02:03] <JohnTeddy> In my panel on 11.04, I have two keyboard language layout changers.. the default one.. and ibus-daemon
[02:03] <JohnTeddy> How can I remove the default one so it doesn't show, and only haev ibus-daemon?
[02:03] <bambanx> and open ssh on ubuntu server
[02:03] <Anom01y> I have the sunyeah I've installed  sun-java6-plugin jun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin, I've manually instaled it as well and tried making a symlink to the .so file in ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins like java says to do, but nothing is working. I also followd info on the link provided by typing !java, but firefox still doesn't show anything in its "plugins" section in add-ons.  any ideas ?
[02:03] <xangua> Anom01y: restarted firefox¿
[02:04] <xangua> bigtom21485: download it from it's site
[02:04] <wols> bambanx: use the PC you are on which obviously has a browser to connect to your router
[02:04] <GreenCloud> bigtom21485: you can try this: $ sudo apt-get install default-jre default-jre-headless  ..then
[02:05] <GreenCloud> bigtom21485: ... $ sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture frostwire-4.21.1.i586.deb
[02:05] <bambanx> i dont know how
[02:05] <Renier1> wols: it's about the hoster experience in combination with Ubuntu, but I thought that as I was asking in #Ubuntu that it was probably already pretty obvious though, duh!
[02:05] <wols> bambanx: we cannot help you, we don't do router support here. ask the seller of your router
[02:05] <bambanx> ok
[02:06] <bambanx> =(
[02:06] <wols> Renier1: again: ask a reasonable support question about ubuntu or "gtfo". you still haven't asked any support question
[02:09] <fission6> okwhere does a ppa go when i do add-apt-repository ? and also how can i remove one
[02:09] <rww> fission6: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, ppa-purge
[02:09] <fission6> ppa-purge will remove all?
[02:09] <maxwellc> edbian: i couldnt get it to work, any other ideas?
[02:09] <edbian> maxwellc: I'm here
[02:09] <edbian> maxwellc: What is the problem again??
[02:10] <fission6> rww does ppa-purge remove all?
[02:10] <maxwellc> edbian: i need to cd to a folder i dont know the name of
[02:10] <rww> fission6: all what?
[02:10] <fission6> all ppas added
[02:10] <rww> fission6: no, it removes the ppa you tell it to remove
[02:10] <edbian> maxwellc: But you know it's in a certain folder and it's the only one?
[02:11] <maxwellc> yes
[02:11] <shbk_ru> hello
[02:11] <shbk_ru> does anybody know library for c/c++ to catch presses of keys like ctrl+shift+foo or fn+f7  etc.   ?
[02:11] <fission6> how come ppa-purge counterpart is add-apt-repository am i missing something
[02:11] <wols> maxwellc: if it's the only folder in the directory you unpack to, you list directories and cd into the one you get
[02:11] <Renier1> Alright, then let's cut straight to the point, I'm trying to set up a website on my home system for testing purposes but seem to keep getting stuck at the same point, giving the following error message each time: "PHP [2] mkdir(): No such file or directory" and a stack trace, uploaded a screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/ssOBH.png Does anyone perhaps have any idea of what I am missing?
[02:11] <fission6> rww i dont have ppa-purge
[02:11] <rww> fission6: PPAs are one particular type of APT repository. One tool is for PPAs, one is for apt repositories in general
[02:11] <rww> fission6: then install it
[02:11] <centHOGG> Renier1: does it have to be linux on your home computer?
[02:12] <centHOGG> i use WAMP
[02:12] <maxwellc> wols: im making a script that automatically installs webmin, and it gets the latest build
[02:12] <rww> !webmin
[02:12] <maxwellc> wols: and the folder is the release number
[02:12] <edbian> maxwellc: items=*       then echo $items
[02:13] <MichaelDeaton> How Do I Upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10 using the update manager in 11.04?
[02:13] <rww> MichaelDeaton: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric/11.10 discussion and support, please
[02:13] <|Slacker|> MichaelDeaton: update-manager -d
[02:13] <maxwellc> edbian: thanks
[02:13] <wols> Renier1: do you have a /var/www/uploads/website_specific/ ?
[02:13] <coz_> !update  | MichaelDeaton
[02:13] <xangua> MichaelDeaton: upgrade to 10.10 and aftr that to 11.04 and when 11.10 is out upgrade again
[02:13] <edbian> maxwellc: hope that helps
[02:13] <xangua> ooh readed 10.04 :P
[02:13] <edbian> maxwellc: then echo ${items[0]}  to get a specific one I think
[02:14] <Renier1> centHOGG:  Simply using it to test on and to build myself a website, the final plan is to build a webserver for hosting.
[02:14] <MichaelDeaton> I have 11.04. :P I'm trying to upgrade to 11.10 but it's not showing up in releases in the update manager.
[02:14] <rww> MichaelDeaton: again, #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:14] <xangua> MichaelDeaton: don't suggest you to upgrade to a beta version ;)
[02:14] <rww> alpha
[02:14] <centHOGG> Renier1: yeah i do the same.. i use wamp on windows, simple set up
[02:14] <Renier1> So far I do not, wols.
[02:14] <wols> centHOGG: that's nice but offtopic in a channel named #ubuntu. please stop
[02:15] <coz_> MichaelDeaton,   if you type   /join #ubuntu+1   where you type here  you will end up in that channel
[02:15] <centHOGG> ubuntu police
[02:15] <ManateeL`> Hello, i have problem with ibus and gksu-polkit: I use sudo or gksu startup my application everything works fine, but when i use gksu-polkit startup my gtk application, ibus can't work, always display "no input window" at tray icon. Any idea? Thanks!
[02:15] <fission6> rww trying to do ppa purge did not seem to remove anything in source.list.d
[02:16] <edbian> maxwellc: I think the correct syntax is items=(*)   then to get each one echo ${items[X]}
[02:16] <wols> Renier1: well that's your problem. that "website_specific" part hints to a buggy program tho. however: they use eval() for installing, that alone is tdwtf worthy
[02:16] <Renier1> centHOGG: Do you use Windows on the webserver?
[02:16] <xangua> fission6: sudo ppa-purge <ppa's name>
[02:17] <wols> fission6: man ppa-purge. generally command line programs need command line options to do anything
[02:17] <Matryx> hi, can someone help me install a dual boot for windows 7 and ubuntu. I've installed Win7 and I've installed ubuntu and made a /boot, /home, /root, and swap partitions. The /boot is a primary partition and the rest is logical. I set the device boot loader to /boot and when I restart I get a error grub rescue message
[02:17] <fission6> well i jjust did rm * from source.list.d
[02:18] <Matryx> am i supposed to set the device boot loader to /dev/sda or sda3? where the /boot partition is
[02:18] <wols> Matryx: sda
[02:18] <wols> fission6: that sort of works too. chainsaw style. don't forget to apt-get update
[02:18] <fission6> yep
[02:19] <rww> Matryx: /dev/sda, as a general rule
[02:19] <wols> Matryx: what is your grub-install command?
[02:19] <fission6> it removed the broken source
[02:19] <Renier1> TDWTF, wols?
[02:20] <Matryx> not sure what u mean
[02:21] <Matryx> this is on one hd
[02:21] <Fidel^> :))
[02:21] <wols> Renier1: thedailywtf.com a website detailing the stupidity of various software things. like webmin for example
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[02:21] <FloodBot1> e3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <gry> e3: hi
[02:22] <e3> Hi gry
[02:22] <astro5> anyone know how to edit the Grub2 menu so it just says "Ubuntu" without the kernel stuff after it? I don't know how to edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux file
[02:23] <rww> e3: don't do that.
[02:23] <Renier1> Alright, so you would suggest casting this whole OCportal thing aside, wols?
[02:23] <Gm4n> astro5: should be fairly straightforward, is there a menu.lst?
[02:23] <gry> astro5: ``sudo nano /etc/grub.d/10_linux'' in Terminal.
[02:23] <astro5> there is no menu.lst in grub2
[02:23] <wols> Renier1: any software that uses eval is not fit to run anywhere on the internet basically
[02:24] <e3> rww: I have an app that does it all the time
[02:24] <rww> e3: turn it off, then.
[02:25] <e3> I did it here, don't take it to serious. I won't do it again.
[02:25] <Renier1> Alright, I'll bear that in mind then, wols.
[02:26] <astro5> when i try to sudo gedit /etc/grub.d/10_linux it is all in code, not easy to configure
[02:26] <hylian> i installed xfce on my ubuntu 11.04 32 bit distro. xfce will not shutdown. it will only log out. (i know i can shut down from the log out screen!). please help me fix this.
[02:26] <xangua> !gksu | astro5
[02:27] <wols> xangua: gksu doesn't help people to understand shellscripts :)
[02:27] <seanmc98> nice name AnalSplatter
[02:27] <AnalSplatter> thanks seanmc98
[02:28] <AnalSplatter> I just registered the name
[02:28] <Omen_20> Wow seriously, Unity has crushed every bit of good faith Canonical has built with me over the past 3 years. I just had a lockup so bad I had to hard boot it and then when it came back, Unity reconfigured itself to default.
[02:28] <zykotick9> astro5, i'd guess you need to use a 40_custom to rename entries with, I rename mine to 06_custom - to get them listed before 10 and 30.  Not exactly trivial, but not impossible either.
[02:29] <jethrot> how to create a symbolic link in ubuntu
[02:29] <zykotick9> jethrot, "ln -s target linkname"
[02:29] <jethrot> what's a "hard link" a la php
[02:29] <astro5> i already made a 40_custom, if i put ubuntu in there and turn off the 10_linux file while that get rid of the graphics and just be a black and white text menu?
[02:29] <zykotick9> jethrot, a hard link is without the -s
[02:30] <jethrot> zykotick9, what is target, a path? linkname also a path?
[02:30] <zykotick9> jethrot, both are/canbe paths
[02:31] <astro5> can i just turn it off with "sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/10_linux?
[02:31] <rww> jethrot: also, linkname is optional
[02:31] <zykotick9> astro5, yes - but to you have something to replace it with?  will you still be able to boot?
[02:31] <hylian> Omen_20, yeah, I just installed xfce... xfce! i hate xfce, but it beats unity hands down.
[02:31] <ldr> jethrot a hard link means just another pointer to the file in the file system, a file is only deleted if you remove all hard links, maybe you understand what i mean, a hard link is what most people understand if they here "file" a soft linnk is what most people whould call a shortcut
[02:31] <wols> astro5: you could just like you could shoot yourself into your foot
[02:32] <astro5> so if i only have a 40_custom file then nothing will boot?
[02:32] <Omen_20> I've tried xfce in the past. It worked pretty well for me. I think Canonical has to make a hard case as to why I won't be looking at GNOME in October.
[02:32] <kural> I have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso , using jigdo can I download oneiric-desktop-i386.iso
[02:32] <CoinOperational> Question: My internal microphone works great on Sound Recorder, however in skype and gchat it doesn't transmit my voice. Any suggestions?
[02:32] <hylian> why can't xfce shutdown the system? shutdown and reboot just log out.
[02:32] <zykotick9> astro5, you 40_custom needs to have the proper info, then you can make the others non-executable
[02:32] <ldr> CoinOperational check the settings of skype and gchat?
[02:33] <rww> Omen_20: desktop environment preferences aren't technical support questions. please try #ubuntu-offtopic instead.
[02:33] <meoblast001> http://pastebin.com/7BW4nSbQ
[02:33] <meoblast001> how is this possible?
[02:33] <Guest68914> how can I search apt-get?
[02:33] <AnalSplatter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0nc0PS3_vg
[02:33] <astro5> i already have a couple distro's in my 40_custom so i will at least get some grub type menu if i turn off 10_linux right?
[02:33] <wols> meoblast001: check your syslog or mail.log
[02:33] <zykotick9> Guest68914, "apt-cache search foo"
[02:33] <rww> meoblast001: does it do the same thing if you use sudo service postfix start instead?
[02:34] <coz_> AnalSplatter,  not sure what that video has to do with ubuntu support
[02:34] <CoinOperational> ldr: done that multiple times, in gchat specifically I went under settings and even saw the level moving for the microphone, but no one can hear me speaking.
[02:34] <meoblast001> oh Aug  8 22:31:43 Compy postfix/master[13788]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use
[02:34] <heavyhands> hello, i'm giving my sister my laptop and since i can't control her bed time while she's away at college, i would like to control this computer.  i have created a simple script to shutdown the computer every night at 11pm.  i would now like to create a script that checks the user against a bootup time and if said time is not past desired time, the computer will shutdown.  does anyone know what i can write for a script?  t
[02:34] <heavyhands> hank you.
[02:34] <rww> ah, there you go.
[02:34] <diamonds> how do I search packages in apt-get?
[02:34] <meoblast001> i guess i must figure out what is using that port and kill it
[02:34] <kural> I have ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso , using jigdo can I download oneiric-desktop-i386.iso
[02:34] <rww> diamonds: zykotick9 just told you how.
[02:34] <hylian> meoblast001, sudo apt-cache search "name of item" > search will put what you want to search for in a easily read and scrollable text file.
[02:34] <coz_> diamonds,  sudo apt-cache search name of package
[02:34] <rww> coz_: apt-cache search doesn't need sudo
[02:35] <rww> hylian: also ^^
[02:35] <zykotick9> hylian, coz_ apt-cache does NOT require sudo
[02:35] <ldr> CoinOperational maybe that means alsa works like charm but pulseaudio doesnt
[02:35] <hylian> meoblast001, it will be named search, hence the > search. or you could name it harring, > harring.
[02:35] <coz_> thanks,, anyone else want to make that correction?
[02:35] <Dragin> Can anyone tell me if AcidRip will rip DVD's?
[02:35] <diamonds> sorry rww , I changed nicks
[02:35] <hylian> oops so used to sudo'ing everything apt-get related... sorry
[02:35] <ldr> CoinOperational its a littel bit complicated for me to explain maybe someone else here could explain it better
[02:36] <rww> meoblast001: 'sudo netstat -lnp --inet' may be useful
[02:36] <meoblast001> yeah ,something is tieing up that port
[02:36] <ldr> CoinOperational to be honest i unistalled pulseaudio cause  it get on my nerves too
[02:37] <hylian> why does xfce not shutdown my computer? (just logs out)
[02:38] <CoinOperational> ldr: So its just the audio server? Is there an alternative to pulseaudio?
[02:38] <kdg> hey guys.... anyone here install Mumble on your 11.04 box?
[02:38] <zykotick9> CoinOperational, pulse replaced ESD
[02:38] <kdg> For some reason, I'm connecting, but I can't hear any audio
[02:38] <escott> hylian, does halt work? is it specific to xfce over other desktop environments
[02:38] <hylian> kdg, can't say as i have, sorry.
[02:39] <zykotick9> CoinOperational, removing Pulse from ubuntu if boardering on silly though
[02:39] <hylian> escott, haven't tried halt, just the graphical shutdown/logout menu bar. and yes it is only xfce, gnome and unity shutdown just fine.
[02:39] <ldr> CoinOperational yes their are a lot of alternatives, and its just a guess that its the problem i removes all audoservers all together cause i had problems but i think ubuntu thinks audio serves are a good idea and maybe they are and i am just incompetend at using them, whatver they always meant trouble for me
[02:40] <ldr> CoinOperational maybe someone else can you help you or you try my rather "radical" approach
[02:40] <GigaGiga1> woot woot
[02:40] <escott> hylian, two possibilities (1) xfce is calling the wrong command halt vs shutdown (2) xfce isn't cleaning up its session and somehow leaving something running that keeps the system from shutting down. its probably (2) but test by calling halt/shutdown inside xfce
[02:41] <meoblast001> rww: is it normal for my mail to sit in the queue and not be sent? it seems to not be sending
[02:41] <rww> meoblast001: no
[02:41] <CoinOperational> zykotick9: Any suggestions as to how to do a work around or tweak it into working?
[02:42] <CoinOperational> ldr: Hah, well if I need to then I need to, but I'll ask around, thank you for the info.
[02:42] <meoblast001> ah, aol refuses to communicate with my server :/
[02:42] <zykotick9> CoinOperational, no sorry.  Best of luck.  But removing Pulse is likely a bad idea.
[02:42] <escott> meoblast001, yes, until hit the get mail button. its a workaround for servers that require you to get mail from pop before sending
[02:42] <meoblast001> hm?
[02:42] <rww> meoblast001: I'm assuming that your server is running on your localhost on your consumer ISP. given this, it is unsurprising that it's blacklisted.
[02:42] <hylian> escott, i will try  that thanks, i hadn't figured that...
[02:43] <meoblast001> rww: yes
[02:43] <meoblast001> that's going to be a pain because i have to send out email from my website
[02:43] <GigaGiga1> wow  1460 users
[02:43] <rww> meoblast001: go buy 1) business-grade internet, or 2) a VPS, then.
[02:44] <meoblast001> ah, ok.. isn't there also a way to route it through another SMTP server?
[02:44] <rww> meoblast001: for what it's worth, running a mailserver or webserver on your consumer ISP is likely a violation of its Terms of Service
[02:44] <wols> meoblast001: use a smarthost
[02:44] <meoblast001> rww: nah, it's not. i called them far before doing that
[02:45] <meoblast001> they said it does not violate their TOS, but they are not going to assist me in jumping through the hoops required to get the job done (they block quite a few ports, which is a PITA)
[02:45] <wols> and aol won't be the only one ignoring you since your are on a dialup RBL
[02:45] <meoblast001> i'm not on a dialup
[02:46] <CoinOperational> zykotick9: Well I appreciate the advice, thank you.
[02:48] <wols> meoblast001: it's still the RBL which blocks you
[02:48] <meoblast001> ah
[02:48] <ldr> CoinOperational did you read the query?
[02:48] <ubuntu> how to download all packages relevant with network-manager-gnome with command apt-get ? ( need to set distro version  ) , I am under Xubuntu now, to fix ubuntu's problem them accidently removed nm-applet with downloading relevant packages. Please help me.
[02:50] <ldr> CoinOperational talking in #ubuntu-offtopic convinced me that removing pulse is a good idea if your alsa support is working
[02:51] <escott> ldr, there is a lot of latent hostility towards the designer of pulseaudio. it strongly colors some peoples opinion of the program
[02:51] <zykotick9> CoinOperational, FYI removing Pulse will remove the default volume control applet (for one thing).
[02:51] <meoblast001> aparently gmail doesn't block me
[02:51] <escott> meoblast001, i think google is checking that you are coming from the same ip that you just logged in. so that will work provided you regularly login and check your email before sending
[02:52] <meoblast001> i never log in lol
[02:52] <meoblast001> well, i log in, but never check emails
[02:52] <meoblast001> i sent it to a friend
[02:53] <tester__> hey guys are there any mmorpgs fo linux or ubuntu compatible?
[02:53] <ldr> escott sorry i have no experience with audioservers to be honest, except esound which was a pain in the ***, but ubuntu works like charm for me without any audioserver, including using skype and stuff wo i recommend this way
[02:53] <wols> tester__: appdb.winehq.org
[02:53] <zoobi2> hi friendsz
[02:54] <ubuntu> how to download all packages relevant with network-manager-gnome with command apt-get ? ( need to set distro version  ) , I am under Xubuntu now, to fix ubuntu's problem them accidently removed nm-applet with downloading relevant packages. Please help me.
[02:54] <meoblast001> ah, good news http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-AU/outlook/thread/cb20452e-7132-4d01-a39f-d2ea0228578a
[02:54] <meoblast001> aparently within 24 - 48 hours, AOL may unblacklist me if my SMTP server doesn't spam them
[02:54] <wols> escott: said designed wrote a lot of shit which doesn't work right. so unfortunately it's warranted hostility
[02:54] <kdg> q
[02:56] <escott> ubuntu, sudo apt-get install apt-file; apt-file nm-applet
[02:56] <h00k> !language | wols
[02:57] <ubuntu> escii, thanks very much.
[02:57] <escott> ubuntu, that should tell you what to install
[02:57] <Electroale27> hola
[02:58] <ubuntu> escii, will it automatic download some packages that be dependent by network-manager-gnome ?
[02:58] <escott> !es | Electroale27
[02:58]  * wols wonders if h00k ever did something constructive in here. either it's a badly written bot or a puritan. I guess there is only one solution
[02:58] <escott> ubuntu, no its a tool to tell you where to find a program. apt-file search nm-applet. once you know what package you can just install that
[02:59] <escott> ubuntu, apt will make sure to install all the things that said package needs
[02:59] <ubuntu> escii, I can not install it, I am under Xubuntu now, I need to fix Ubuntu . two different linux.
[02:59] <gaelfx> hey, I used to be able to access my Transmission web client from another machine one the same network by using the [mycomputer'sname].local:9091 address, but recently that stopped working, and I'm wondering if it's a problem with my router or something that changed in my Ubuntu setup? Is it possible that a kernel update reset this accessibility?
[03:00] <escott> gaelfx, did you enable firewall? ufw? otherwise yes it could be your router, but unlikely if you are on the same subnet
[03:00] <wols> gaelfx: no. do a ping [mycomputer'sname].local  if that works, do sudo netstat -anp |grep 9091 on your ubuntu
[03:01] <gaelfx> escott: wols: ok, hang on, I'll check both of those things
[03:02] <gaelfx> wols: ping did not work, it couldn't find it
[03:02] <wols> gaelfx: router problem then, not ubuntu related (or whatever else does your local DNS server)
[03:03] <escott> gaelfx, your router may not be providing dns to your local clients, make sure your routers dns server is running and the hostnames are configured
[03:03] <gaelfx> wols: that's what I was afraid of, is there a common feature I could enable that might make it work again?
[03:04] <wols> gaelfx: you are offtopic. we are not #routersupport here. ask in a place that supports your router instead
[03:05] <Strav> Hi. Does anyone feel like helping to diagnose some mount problem on nautilus. I'm not sure what exactly caused it, when trying to mount anything I get: error creating mount point, permission denied"
[03:07] <Strav> I've chmoded /media/ to 777 just to test. Still have the error. Perhaps it has something to do with some custom automount rules I've set for a remote samba drive... Is there any way I could see more info about the actual problem?
[03:07] <escott> Strav, if you have empty directories in /media you might try to remove them
[03:08] <escott> Strav, 755 should be sufficient
[03:08] <html> hi
[03:09] <quiescens> Strav: /media should really only need to be 755 but your user(s) are either missing the right group membership or the right policykit permissions or something
[03:10] <Strav> escott: I know. I have a "share" folder in my media which is used as a mount point in my automount rules, but I doubt this is the problem. I've also set the owner of media to nobody and the group to nogroup (again, just to see if it's a permission problem on the /media folder itself)
[03:11] <escott> Strav, you might have fouled things up with the custom automount rules. why not revert them and simply add your samba share to fstab
[03:11] <Strav> (set the permissions on /media to 755, still have the problem)
[03:11] <fission6> if i create an upstart script do i need to run it with sudo? like sudo start something
[03:12] <Strav> escott: automounting with fstab causes file system hangs when there's a connection problem. I also had some shutdown issues with it (a very standard cifs mount rule with all the proper options)
[03:13] <george__> anyone here use giver?
[03:13] <escott> fission6, sudo service whatever start
[03:13] <fission6> well i have to do sudo start service
[03:14] <fission6> for an upstart?
[03:14] <andrew__> yo
[03:14] <V13Axel> Is there any way to use multiple monitors when using command-line-only, in a configuration besides output cloning?
[03:14] <escott> fission6, correctly configured it should start automatically, but if you just created it and want to test it you have to manually start it
[03:15] <escott> V13Axel, http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO/x1010.html
[03:15] <html> how do i change a img distro to iso for mat to install, and thats without having a cd drive
[03:15] <Strav> escott: but of course I suspect the automount/autofs... Anyone knows if autofs tries to override udev's priority in automounting?
[03:16] <nankura> hey guys
[03:16] <fission6> right but i have to sudo start for an upstart service correct?
[03:16] <escott> fission6, yes
[03:16] <fission6> ok thanks
[03:17] <nankura> anyone here know alot about 11.04's under the hood features?
[03:18] <aron> hi
[03:18] <escott> !anyone | nankura
[03:18] <gry> aron: Hello!
[03:18] <nankura> >.>
[03:18] <Guest60302> how do i see what kind of graphics card i have in my laptop?
[03:19] <kevin_> Guest60302: lspci could be a start
[03:19] <V13Axel> Guest60302: Open Terminal and type 'lspci | grep VGA"
[03:20] <nankura> Ok basically. ive tried mint 10, 11, i had bloated issue's on a high grade pc, ive tried xubuntu, i had screen tearing issues due to XRender. kubuntu was ok. but im just wondering, i know there different WM's/derives, but when i use 11.04 core ubuntu, everything just works, no issues, no screen tearing, is it just different WM's causing issues?, or does 11.04 core ubuntu have an under the hood secret the other derives dont introd
[03:20] <nankura> uce
[03:22] <html> did you try  ubuntu 10.04     nankura,
[03:22] <Guest60302> how do i enable mp3 for k3b?
[03:23] <escott> nankura, it could be compiz using a back buffer that is clearing up the tearing. you could see if the tearing comes back if you do metacity --replace
[03:23] <Strav> ha. when I stop autofs, udev seems to mount properly
[03:23] <Strav> damn
[03:23] <george__> anyone use giver?
[03:23] <gry> !anyone > george__
[03:23] <escott> Guest60302, install lame
[03:23] <nankura> yep, long ago. i dont have a problem with ubuntu normal thats what im saying, ubuntu 10.04 and 11.04 runs fine for me, but spin offs and all that have always had issues and i just find it very strange that ubuntu has always worked out of the box with next to no issues but derives always have issues, like sound , performance, etc and im not the only one to think so, ive seen quite a phew youtube reviewers say the same thing
[03:24] <Guest60302> escott: thanks
[03:24] <nankura> someone menchoned to me that the wayland project has alot to do with 11.04's/11.10 performance, and kernel 3.0.1 is looking good
[03:24] <rww> nankura: That person was wrong; neither 11.04 nor oneiric use Wayland.
[03:25] <escott> nankura, nobody is using wayland at this point
[03:25] <Guest60302> is there a way to make your graphics card work better with games like warsow. etc... mine keeps freezing up
[03:26] <gaelfx> nankura: you can check at ubuntu.com/testing to see the list of changes in the alphas that are currently available, it doesn't mention anything about wayland
[03:26] <gaelfx> Guest60302: what graphics card are you using and which driver are you using?
[03:27] <Guest60302> gaelfx: I dont know
[03:27] <nankura> ah
[03:27] <nankura> well im not a linux pro
[03:27] <nankura> i dont know much about it
[03:27] <nankura> all i know is core ubuntu has always worked for me, but mint, and derives always had problems with me
[03:27] <V13Axel> Guest60302: Open Terminal and type 'lspci | grep VGA"
[03:27] <nankura> im just trying to figure out what the main difference is
[03:27] <nankura> curiousity mostly
[03:27] <V13Axel> ssstop
[03:27] <nankura> i love 11.04, unity is good
[03:29] <html> it sucks! on low to mid- range poweer computers nankura ,
[03:29] <Guest60302> V13Axel: then what?
[03:29] <gaelfx> Guest60302: do you know how to use pastebin?
[03:29] <Guest60302> no
[03:29] <dufei> 你好
[03:30] <gaelfx> !zh | dufei
[03:30] <gaelfx> !pb > Guest60302
[03:30] <escott> Guest60302, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; then run lspci | pastebinit then copy paste the url it outputs here
[03:31] <Guest60302> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:31] <Guest60302> woops
[03:32] <MrSirs> I'm trying to install db2 on ubuntu 11.04, but I forgot to include the Application Development Tools component in the setup wizard. What do I need to do to get DB2 to work with python-django?
[03:32] <escott> Guest60302, instead of installing lame it may be easier to install ubuntu-restricted-extras provides dvd as well. i always for that it exists
[03:33] <SaEeDIRHA> hello guys , i have problem with vino server in ubuntu , its running but when i try to connect to server , it will aks for a password and after that i donest display anything :(
[03:33] <SaEeDIRHA> can someone please tell me how can i resolve this problem ?
[03:33] <SaEeDIRHA> or what is causing this problem ?
[03:34] <Guest60302> escott: will that help with my graphics as well?
[03:34] <gaelfx> SaEeDIRHA: did you make it so that you have to approve every remote session?
[03:34] <SaEeDIRHA> gaelfx:  how can i do that ?
[03:35] <escott> Guest60302, no keep doing what you were doing about the graphics card. this is related to your mp3 issue
[03:35] <gaelfx> SaEeDIRHA: well, if you did do that, then you need to go to the actual computer you're trying to access and allow access every time you want to connect remotely
[03:36] <gaelfx> SaEeDIRHA: it's possible that it just needs keyring access, have you ever used the remote connection before on this machine?
[03:36] <SaEeDIRHA> gaelfx:  i have ssh access
[03:36] <V13Axel> What is the best command-line IRC client for Ubuntu?
[03:36] <rww> V13Axel: irssi
[03:36] <sumpygump> irssi +1
[03:37] <gaelfx> SaEeDIRHA: yeah, but vino is a different service, so it has different permissions set on it
[03:37] <AnalSplatter> para nada puedo lograr la instalación exitosa de Tor Vidalia en Lucid Lynx!
[03:37] <AnalSplatter> a la verga!
[03:37] <V13Axel> Good, because that's what I'm using right now. Re-purposing an old PC as server, and I needed an IRC client.
[03:37] <SaEeDIRHA> gaelfx:  i can also pass X thro ssh
[03:38] <AnalSplatter> he intentado el foro de Ubuntu
[03:38] <AnalSplatter> pero nunca tengo exito!
[03:38] <MrSirs> I installed db2 using $ sudo ./db2setup, but now when I try to run $ sudo ./db2setup again, it says: sudo: ./db2setup: command not found
[03:38] <MrSirs> how can i rerun the setup wizard to install missing components?
[03:38] <AnalSplatter> No hay nadie aquí quien habla español?
[03:38] <Guest60302> lspci
[03:39] <AnalSplatter> here anybody can help on tor install?
[03:39] <cypha> how do I access ubuntu kb shortcuts from the terminal?
[03:39] <cypha> like what do i run to get the gui
[03:40] <Renegade_> hi, I have an Intel Atom 330 CPU NVIDIA ION graphics. can someone tell me how to update to the lastest drivers in ubuntu?
[03:41] <escott> cypha, unclear what you are asking? startx or sudo service gdm start to start the xserver
[03:41] <wols> !nvidia > Renegade_
[03:41] <html> how do i change a img distro to iso for mat to install, and thats without having a cd drive
[03:42] <cypha> escott: you know the settings window where you can set key bindings?
[03:42] <escott> html, usb-creator-gtk
[03:42] <Renegade_> thank you
[03:42] <cypha> it's in the System menu in ubuntu
[03:43] <escott> cypha, depends on the window manager, as it is a window-manager function. for compiz install ccsm
[03:43] <cypha> i'm running openbox
[03:43] <Kaizen> anyone know a good security channel on freenode
[03:43] <cypha> but the Ctrl+Tab shortcut isn't bound in there
[03:43] <Kaizen> ?
[03:43] <cypha> I can't find where it's bound
[03:43] <MrSirs> what does it mean if i try to run a script in the working directory and it says command not found?
[03:44] <lapaga> ./
[03:44] <escott> MrSirs, ./scriptname.sh
[03:44] <MrSirs> @lapaga @escott i am using ./
[03:44] <MrSirs> and sudo
[03:44] <html> escott, i have never had any luck with it, and does it  work with img files?
[03:44] <escott> MrSirs, think thats the problem. sudo doesn't like that. give the full path
[03:45] <cypha> escott: in your System menu at the top, there is an option for keybindings
[03:45] <wols> MrSirs: head -n 1 <scriptfile>
[03:45] <cypha> can you tell me how to run that?
[03:45] <escott> html, you have an image file you dd'ed off a disk?
[03:45] <html> dd'ed means?
[03:45] <escott> html, where did you get this img file
[03:45] <zykotick9> MrSirs, 64bit install?
[03:46] <Dulak> html: dd is a data dump util, to raw copy data.  Usually disk-to-disk
[03:46] <html> https://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook
[03:46] <escott> cypha, i'm running 11.10/gnome3 so i dont think i have the same menu you are talking about
[03:46] <cypha> oh
[03:46] <html> escott, https://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook
[03:47] <html> Dulak,  thanks
[03:47] <Guest60302> http://pastebin.com/zBgSb5pH
[03:47] <cypha> can someone tell me how to get to the keybindings GUI settings from a terminal command?
[03:47] <escott> html, i think the intention is to just dd that right onto the device, but im not sure. they should have given you instructions.
[03:47] <wols> html: you've been asked before and always ignored it: what actual format is this file? (and .img and .iso are not fileformats, they're meaningless file extensions)
[03:47] <MrSirs> @wols the command returns #!/bin/sh
[03:47] <escott> wols, its an image for meego devices
[03:47] <MrSirs> @zykotick9 its ubuntu 11.04 32bit
[03:48] <Guest60302> escott: you see the pastebin link?
[03:48] <wols> escott: that doesn't answer the question. thanks for not getting the point as well. you lose
[03:48] <escott> html, best ask in #meego if that exists. doing this wrong could brick that device
[03:48] <K-Rich> hey all
[03:49]  * wols wonders how one could "brick" a PC (a netbook is a PC) with a CD or usb stick...
[03:49] <Dulak> wols: intentionally or just in general?
[03:49] <cypha> wols, can you tell me how to get to the keybindings for ubuntu?
[03:49] <escott> Guest60302, that is intel graphics and is built-in. nothing you can do to improve it
[03:50] <wildbat> hands wols a new CIH .
[03:50] <gaelfx> Guest60302: a new graphics card would probably spice things up rather nicely though ;)
[03:50] <Guest60302> escott: so i cant upgrade it either?
[03:50] <Guest60302> ok sweet
[03:51] <wols> Dulak: by using a netbook "image" of some OS as html is intending
[03:51] <html> wols,  oh sorry , i didnt mean to ,,, im not sure but i know its a img file
[03:51] <wols> wildbat: that's not the point here and you know it
[03:51] <zabomber> how do i go about setting up weekly backups of my Ubuntu server to a USB disk?
[03:51] <wols> html: run "file" on it
[03:51] <wols> !backup | zabomber
[03:52] <Dulak> wols: it would be difficult but not impossible, I could do it intentionally if I get a shell I think
[03:52] <Dulak> wols: possible but not probable, I'd say
[03:55] <ldr> cypha dont know what you want exaclty maybe "xmodmap" ?
[03:56] <ldr> cypha keybindings isnt what i would succinct
[03:56] <lapaga>   I am going to get a new computer next month...I would like to be able to discuss things with other's....is their a channel that I can do that without going to off-topic (which does not do alot) ?
[03:56] <zabomber> anyone got free shell accounts on their server?
[03:56] <zabomber> :)
[03:57] <escott> lapaga, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:57] <cypha> nono, I'm not trying to edit the keys from the terminal
[03:57] <html> wols, whats that mean
[03:57] <cypha> i just want to edit the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts
[03:57] <ldr> zabomber http://shellmix.com/
[03:58] <lapaga> escott: thanks:)
[03:58] <wols> html: "file" is a command
[03:58] <ldr> cypha should be descriped in the according window manager manual so look in the unity manual if you are using unity and so on
[03:59] <cypha> using openbox
[03:59] <[THC]AcidRain> serious issue that i had to learn the hard way
[04:00] <ldr> cypha i think their is no such thing as "ubuntu kesyboard" shortcuts normally they are defined thorugh your windows manager
[04:00] <[THC]AcidRain> if i have 2 files with the same name. and i put them in the same directory, ubuntu 11, unlike 9.04, does not by default create an appended name for the 2nd file. how do i fix this?
[04:00] <cypha> ldr, gtk shortcuts?
[04:00] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, are you talking about nautilus?
[04:01] <escott> cypha, gtk shortcuts... like emacs vs windows style movement in textboxes?
[04:02] <ldr> cypha ylour shortcuts should be defined in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml.
[04:02] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: it just happens that i am using nautilus atm. but no
[04:02] <[THC]AcidRain> im talking about anytime that.... hang on
[04:02] <ldr> cypha as i understnad you need to edit the file their is no graphical frontend
[04:02] <cypha> ldr, yes, but ctrl+tab isn't defined there
[04:02] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, things like mv have always clobbered unless you alias mv =mv -n
[04:02] <nir0> hi guys, anyone familiar with ffmpeg? i need to convert a video into 4 formats, all converted but when i play ogv video becomes jumpy, audio is ok. here's my options: ffmpeg -i input.mkv -ar 44100 -ab 64k -s 480x360 -r 25 -g 50 -b 500k -bt 500k -y output.ogv
[04:03] <escott> cypha, what is ctrl+tab supposed to do
[04:03] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: hold up. slow down for me. im super new to 11.
[04:03] <ldr> cypha hmm in my ubuntu ctrl+tab dont do anything, so whereever its defined dont has anything to do with ubuntu, maybe gnome, do you use openboy as a standalone window manager?
[04:03] <[THC]AcidRain> i just tried to do it and it gave me the options to replace or skip. i want it to append.
[04:03] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i make it do this
[04:03] <cypha> well, I want it to cycle through the documents in gedit
[04:03] <cypha> ldr ^^
[04:04] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, if I mv file directory and directory already has file then directory/file will be clobbered. that has always been the case. there is no change. so what program do you think the behavior has changed in
[04:04] <ldr> cypha then configure gedit maybe? or just use vi its far superior in any case ;)
[04:05] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: no. before if i had a file in /home/me/file.txt, and i had a file in /home/me/hax/file.txt, and i moved them to the same directory, 1 of those files would become file1.txt
[04:06] <[THC]AcidRain> i can pull my laptop out and show you how this is in jaunty,
[04:06] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, then add "alias mv = mv -n" to your ~/.bashrc
[04:06] <[THC]AcidRain> i just came from it, and i foolishly trusted 11.11 to append the file name, rather than replace it, and i replaced my sql database with a bad one
[04:06] <cypha> ldr: gedit is what i'm trying to configure
[04:07] <cypha> but it says the keybinding ctrl+tab is taken
[04:07] <[THC]AcidRain> and ~/.bashrc is found in root?
[04:07] <cypha> so is ctrl+shift+tab
[04:07] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, i could be wrong, maybe they did remove this from skel, but i doubt it, and an upgrade wouldn't touch your .bashrc (a fresh install would give you a new .bashrc)
[04:07] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah sry for my wording, i did a fresh install
[04:07] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, yes also to /root/.bashrc
[04:08] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm
[04:08] <[THC]AcidRain> no .bashrc in my root
[04:08] <wols> [THC]AcidRain: your filemanager like nautilus might have done this once or still do, but actual linux kernels never did and neither did programs like mv or such. Linux is not VMS
[04:08] <ldr> cypha so its no ubuntu question  but a gedit one, so of theirs is no such thing as #gedit, than good luck or maybe try in #ubuntu-pfftopic
[04:08] <[THC]AcidRain> if i just create file manually in nautilus will it be the same thing as sudo touch?
[04:08] <gmachine_24> I upgraded to 10.04 and I guess now my samba config file is smb.conf.ucf-dist - even though it pretty much looks like my old smb.conf file. Can I just copy and paste the contents from the old (smb.conf) to the new?
[04:08] <ldr> #offtopic
[04:08] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, I bet you did this yourself a while back and forgot. you could also compare with jaunty's /etc/skel
[04:08] <cypha> ldr, i just said it's not a problem in gedit
[04:08] <cypha> i need to unbind the gtk keyboard shortcut
[04:09] <gmachine_24> I'm sorry is samba off topic?
[04:09] <wols> gmachine_24: the samba config if still smb.conf. the "dist" file is something debconf created e.g. as a backup but not what samba actually uses
[04:09] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, are you ls -al /root and dont see a .bashrc?
[04:09] <ldr> cypha but their should be anything bound to it my ubuntu dont do anyhting when i press ctrl+tab
[04:09] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: there is a very very good chance of that. because im restoring all of my servers. and i honestly forgot how to do most of it considering they have been running by themselves for years now
[04:09] <Jengerer> Anybody familiar with samba/cups on Ubuntu server?
[04:09] <cypha> ldr: doesn't do anything in mine either
[04:09] <wols> !anybody | Jengerer
[04:09] <cypha> but it's apparently bound
[04:09] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: yes sir
[04:09] <escott> cypha, maybe .gtkrc... but doubtful
[04:10] <maalac> Jengerer:  what do you want to know ?
[04:10] <cypha> that file is empty
[04:10] <ldr> cypha sorry but then i dont have a clue, still think its gedit realted
[04:10] <gmachine_24> wois ok. I'll be back in a moment or two . . .
[04:10] <nir0> need help with ffmpeg please
[04:10] <cypha> ldr, how can I do a search for .gtkrc?
[04:10] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, i guess copy the version from /etc/skel but not having one seems wrong... i wonder how that could have happened
[04:10] <cypha> since it obviously hidden
[04:10] <cypha> it's not in my ~/ directory
[04:11] <cypha> where else might it be?
[04:11] <wols> cypha: find <path> -name .gtkrc
[04:11] <escott> cypha, .gtkrc is a file where you can overload some gtk preferences (like themes)
[04:11] <[THC]AcidRain> do i have to copy? or is ect/skel the default?
[04:11] <[THC]AcidRain> etc/skel/*
[04:11] <escott> cypha, it is normal not to have it
[04:11] <Jengerer> Alright, well, my issue is that the printer that I have set up won't show up when I reboot the machine, but if I restart the smbd service after start up, it'll work fine.  /var/log/samba/log.smbd says it can't connect to the CUPS server (connection refused).
[04:11] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, skel is the template for new users that you might create
[04:12] <[THC]AcidRain> oh got ya
[04:12] <wols> Jengerer: maybe cups is not up when samba tries to connect on bootup
[04:12] <[THC]AcidRain> hints skel. lol
[04:12] <Jengerer> wols, that's what I suspected, but I'm not sure how to ensure that it starts before smbd does.
[04:12] <ldr> cypha yes and i would say .gtkrc is rather a long shot in any case
[04:13] <Jengerer> I checked around a bit, and I was directed to the update-rc command, is that relevant?
[04:13] <mcurran> Anyone here ever get GTA IV working good on ubuntu?
[04:14] <escott> Jengerer, you could play around with the dependencies in your init.d and make samba require cups
[04:14] <wols> Jengerer: not for upstart
[04:15] <meoblast001> when i do "mysql -u root -p", i get "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[04:15] <[THC]AcidRain> escott: do i have to restart after this?
[04:15] <escott> !upstart | Jengerer
[04:15] <meoblast001> i googled it but i'm not finding much
[04:15] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, you need to logout yes
[04:16] <ldr> meoblast001 could mean you mysql server isnt runnning have you checked that the file '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' is their and/or if mysqld is running?
[04:16] <meoblast001> "$ sudo service mysql restart" just hangs
[04:17] <meoblast001> oh, it's slow, now it says "mysql start/running"
[04:17] <meoblast001> but that file still does not exist
[04:17] <meoblast001> but starting mysql gives start: Job is already running: mysql
[04:18] <ldr> meoblast001 i would think their is some problem with your myswl server maybe have a look at syslog or something
[04:19] <acidrain> omg
[04:19] <acidrain> show hidden files
[04:19] <andantino> how do i edit grub to add a partition
[04:19] <ldr> meoblast001 maybe its started under the wrong user credeientials so it lacks the rights to open the sock file or stuff
[04:19] <ldr> meoblast001 hard to say from far sorry
[04:19] <meoblast001> logs are empty
[04:19] <acidrain> bash: alias: =mv -n: not found bash: alias: mv: not found
[04:19] <escott> andantino, ? what exactly are you doing/need to do
[04:20] <ldr> meoblast001 empty logs?? that suggest some hige problem with your /var partition i think i have never seen an empty ssyslog in my time
[04:20] <andantino> i installed made a new partition and installed PCBSD
[04:20] <meoblast001> but syslog has information
[04:20] <andantino> before that I just had windows dual booted with ubuntu
[04:20] <escott> acidrain, sorry missing some quotes alias mv='mv -n'
[04:21] <andantino> i had to create a partition in the center
[04:21] <acidrain> escott: i added those
[04:21] <acidrain> i did have a space though. mv ='mv -n'
[04:21] <meoblast001> mysql has been crashing multiple times per minute for the past day
[04:21] <acidrain> did that cause it?
[04:21] <acidrain> meoblast001: appears you have SQL slammer :)
[04:21] <escott> andantino, run update-grub2
[04:22] <meoblast001> http://pastebin.com/TDQYhRsk
[04:22] <andantino> that should do it, escott?
[04:22] <wols> !fixgrub | andantino
[04:22] <escott> andantino, then look at your /etc/grub/grub.cfg and check if it recognized your BSD install
[04:22] <andantino> okey dokey
[04:22] <wols> andantino: depends what your actual problem is since you haven't told us
[04:22] <andantino> ill give it a shot
[04:22] <escott> andantino, if you moved your /boot partition you should reinstall grub by following the !fixgrub instructions
[04:23] <andantino> i didnt move anything from the ubuntu partition
[04:23] <andantino> just shrunk windows
[04:24] <acidrain> hmmm... none of my icon packs are working
[04:25] <rhcp> Hey Guys, I just got into ubuntu 11.04. Been using osx + ubuntu 10.X
[04:25] <rhcp> my PPTP vpns dont seem to be working with network manager
[04:26] <rhcp> http://pastebin.com/tm64Tamq
[04:26] <andantino> brb, i dont think the update helped but ill reboot and see
[04:26] <rhcp> anyone know what this means?
[04:26] <andantino> thanks for the help so far
[04:26] <meoblast001> acidrain: i'm attempting an upgrade
[04:26] <meoblast001> if that doesn't work, i'll purge mysql, and reinstall
[04:27] <meoblast001> i don't even use mysql.. i can't remember ever using it on this install
[04:27] <meoblast001> and now when i finally need it it's broke out of the box :P
[04:27] <wols> rhcp: no public and private keys needed for the VPN found it seems
[04:27] <acidrain> meoblast001: yeah i know what you mean. get a refund
[04:27] <rhcp> wols: Mind giving me a hand?
[04:27] <meoblast001> hehe
[04:27] <acidrain> i been battling recovering servers all day
[04:27] <rhcp> I got the keys here in email
[04:27] <wols> meoblast001: you need to purge the -common package btw
[04:27] <wols> rhcp: yes
[04:27] <rhcp> i wasnt aware keys were needed with pptp
[04:27] <meoblast001> wols: thanks
[04:28] <wols> !pm | rhcp
[04:28] <acidrain> man im tripping out again
[04:28] <andantino> no luck
[04:28] <acidrain> how do i get the window controls to be on the right side of the window where they are supposed to be
[04:28] <rhcp> ok so. since when keys are needed with pptp
[04:28] <rhcp> i use pptp with my android phone
[04:28] <rhcp> no keys
[04:29] <escott> andantino, then edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom and manually fill in your boot options
[04:29] <rhcp> is there a howto/wiki for this
[04:29] <escott> andantino, then rerun update-grub2
[04:29] <rhcp> i read you just use network blah to add the vpn
[04:29] <rhcp> connect
[04:30] <andantino> okey dokey
[04:32] <rhcp> so wols sup?
[04:33] <andantino> i think i gots it
[04:33] <andantino> brb
[04:34] <meoblast001> hm.. upgrade's hanging.. hopefully it's legitimately taking time
[04:34] <meoblast001> and not frozen on me
[04:35] <tnm_> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[04:35] <acidrain> im using the crystal icon pack. and icons are not changing
[04:35] <acidrain> icons dont change on any setting actually. they are just stuck to normal
[04:35] <wildbat> is there some software to do a reverse ssh ? like i connect to another host to give ssh access to the remote host?
[04:36] <wols> wildbat: no. you simply run a ssh server and only allow the remote IP to connect. of course you can ssh to the remote host and do a remote portforward to your local sshd as well
[04:38] <wildbat> wols: yeah i know.
[04:38] <Jengerer> Can someone direct me as to how I'd configure upstart to launch smbd when cups is started?
[04:39] <osmosis> anyone have a Samsung Series 9 ???
[04:40] <wols> !anyone | osmosis
[04:40] <acidrain> where can i find out why my top bar and bottom bar are not changing colors with themes. and why icon themes are not working?
[04:40] <osmosis> How the hell do i get ubuntu to work on my Samsung Series 9 ?
[04:40] <CLN84> Greetings, I was wonder if anyone would be able to help me figure out why I cannot get ubuntu to install on my HP pavilion DM4. When I boot x86, amd64 from CD or USB I get a blank screen
[04:40] <escott> Jengerer, should be a simple matter of adding a "and cups started" to /etc/init/smbd.conf... but i haven't read the docs and im making things up
[04:40] <meoblast001> maybe at this point recompiling mysql is the best option
[04:40] <KE1HA> wildbat: A server admin with any security sense at all would take away port-forwarding right out the gate, what't the end goal your tryignt o achive?
[04:41] <wols> meoblast001: definitely not
[04:41] <CrOnOs2000> CLN84, did you try to force vesa on your install
[04:42] <osmosis> Tried installing Ubuntu 11.04 on my Samsung Series 9. Kernel panics constantly, and crash when apt-get upgrade trys to install EFI package.  Is there anything I can do, or do I have to wait for Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[04:42] <CLN84> CrOnOs2000 i did not have options for input
[04:42] <needhelp1> is anyone willing to walk me through connecting to a wpa2 wifi connection via terminal
[04:43] <wildbat> KE1HA: just wanna a way to support my dad ~ his router dont save setting very well :< port forwarding keep resetting
[04:43] <escott> needhelp1, if you have configured the connection via network manager it may be easier to start it using nmcli
[04:43] <Jengerer> escott, I think I found it, "start on started cups"
[04:44] <meoblast001> wols: well, it still doesn't work
[04:44] <CrOnOs2000> CLN84, just press esc and it will show you options when ubuntu logo just pops
[04:44] <CLN84> CrOnOs2000 any idea why it would not display anything?
[04:44] <meoblast001> so i can A) switch to Postgre (haha, that's like asking for more problems), recompile, switch to another distro, or continue using SQLite until my database corrupts
[04:44] <meoblast001> oh, and i stopped using alphabetical listing mid-way through that line as i forgot i used A) in the first place
[04:45] <needhelp1> escott, i dont, i want to assume i dont have access to a gui
[04:45] <KE1HA> wildbat: I'm assuming these are home router setups, probably overkill but bests for home setup si a small Linux Firewall Box out in the DMZ.
[04:45] <CrOnOs2000> CLN84, well i had the same problem having video problem, wifi firmware problem so i cant be shure
[04:46] <CLN84> CrOnOs2000 should i get a previous version instead of the latest?
[04:46] <KE1HA> wildbat: then just use that box as an entry point if the router itself is playing up.
[04:46] <wildbat> KE1HA: i know ~ just that router is dying  every a few day it need full reset LOL
[04:46] <wols> meoblast001: grep /etc/mysql/* sock
[04:46] <escott> needhelp1, the iwconfig part is relatively easy. put it on the correct channel and set the essid. after that you have to configure and run wpa_supplicant.
[04:46] <needhelp1> the wpa supplicat is where i get lost
[04:46] <wols> needhelp1: use wicd-curses then
[04:47] <CrOnOs2000> CLN84, you can always try LTS version 10.04 is stable and will have support for 2 years i think i use 10.04
[04:47] <wols> needhelp1: or you can simply put it in /etc/network/interfaces and you don't need complicated wpasupplicant configuration (or anything with iwconfig either)
[04:47] <CLN84> okay, I will try that, thank you for your help CrOnOs2000
[04:47] <meoblast001> wols: /etc/mysql/my.cnf:!includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ grep: sock: No such file or directory
[04:47] <KE1HA> wildbat: Oh, I see. Well if it wont hold / save simple stuff like that, then, probably new router time :-)
[04:47] <needhelp1> that wouldnt do me any justice though, wols
[04:47] <wols> meoblast001: your my.cnf is wrong. please purge all your mysql and show the output of dpkg -l |grep mysql  in a pastebin
[04:48] <needhelp1> wols, hum, i havent heard of this method .. /ect/network/interfaces
[04:48] <wols> needhelp1: you have been wronged or why do you need justice?
[04:48] <meoblast001> wols: purge only mysql-common?
[04:48] <osmosis> im still suprised that after all these years ubuntu doesnt have a good replacement for dumeter
[04:48] <osmosis> the new version of dumeter on windows is really nice
[04:48] <wols> meoblast001: all of it
[04:48] <needhelp1> wols, assuming i only have cli access, with no internet connection i couldnt install wicd
[04:49] <wols> needhelp1: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK  see point 3
[04:49] <wols> needhelp1: and I did install wicd and wpasupplicant via usb stick on a debian netinst before
[04:50] <needhelp1> wols, true
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> nothing ever seems to work with this new distro
[04:50] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[04:51] <meoblast001> wols: you wanted me to install again before getting that dpkg output, right?
[04:51] <wols> no. I want to do exactly what I typed and no more
[04:51] <meoblast001> ah, reinstallation failed anyways (couldn't connect to server at setup). so i'll repurge and do what you asked
[04:52] <wols> meoblast001: have you manually deleted any mysql files?
[04:52] <needhelp1> wols, so cat /etc/network/interfaces  shows no mods have been made, im using nmapp doesnt mod the interfaces ?
[04:53] <meoblast001> wols: not that i know of
[04:53] <needhelp1> s/using/assuming
[04:53] <wols> needhelp1: you are assuming right
[04:53] <needhelp1> wols, making changes to this file, are they saved forever or do they reset after a reboot
[04:54] <wols> saved forever
[04:54] <meoblast001> eep
[04:54] <meoblast001> i closed ssh mid-way through and now APT is gefickt
[04:54] <wols> any interface you configure via /etc/network/interfaces will not be touched by network-manager. or at least that's the idea. reality might differ
[04:55] <needhelp1> wols, so i should .. cp /ect/network/interfaces  /ect/network/interfaces.bak  ?
[04:55] <wols> h00k: I love your BS !language when you don't catch them all. that is the problem with censorship :)
[04:55] <wols> needhelp1: no you should not
[04:55] <needhelp1> wols, ?
[04:55] <meoblast001> how do i break APT locks?
[04:55] <wols> needhelp1: any word I wrote unclear?
[04:55] <wols> meoblast001: you close all your other apt instances
[04:56] <meoblast001> wols: i did.. by close i mean i unexpectedly closed it
[04:56] <needhelp1> wols, no, could you explain why i should not cp that dir/file ?
[04:56] <wols> needhelp1: cause it's not needed
[04:56] <wols> !errors | meoblast001
[04:57] <meoblast001> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:57] <wols> meoblast001: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[04:57] <meoblast001> wols: returned nothing
[04:57] <meoblast001> some forum told me to sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[04:58] <meoblast001> i did that
[04:58] <wols> meoblast001: then there is no lock
[04:58] <meoblast001> so i broke APT?
[04:58] <escott> meoblast001, not something you should do before exhausting all other possibilities
[04:59] <wols> plase give the full command and output. pastebin
[04:59] <meoblast001> what full command?
[04:59] <meoblast001> lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[04:59] <meoblast001> that gave no output at all
[04:59] <wols> the command which gives you errors
[04:59] <meoblast001> i already did
[04:59] <meoblast001> oh, the command
[04:59] <wols> no you did not
[05:00] <meoblast001> sudo apt-get purge mysql-client-5.1 mysql-client mysql-client-core-5.1 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1
[05:00] <meoblast001> i could put sudo apt-get * there
[05:00] <meoblast001> anything involving apt-get will cause that
[05:00] <wols> meoblast001: unless you start reading what I wrote, you very quickly will be on your own
 E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:00] <wols> meoblast001: have a nice day. I wish you good luck
[05:00] <dsnyders> meoblast001, what about apt-get clean
[05:01] <meoblast001> dsnyders: nope
[05:02] <dsnyders> meoblast001, you don't have another package manager open. do you?
[05:03] <meoblast001> dsnyders: no i do not
[05:03] <GreenCloud> meoblast001: maybe your Synaptics acquires the lock
[05:03] <meoblast001> my SSH session died misway through APT running
[05:03] <meoblast001> a lock was acquired that was never and will never be returned
[05:04] <dsnyders> meoblast001, you were sshing into a remote machine and running apt and the ssh connection broke?
[05:04] <meoblast001> yes
[05:05] <meoblast001> well, less so broke. in confusion i accidentally closed the terminal
[05:05] <dsnyders> meoblast, you'll have to check the running processes to see if apt is running in the background
[05:05] <KE1HA> ps aux | grep apt
[05:05] <KE1HA> kill the pid is there is one, then remoce the lock as wols told ya to do.
[05:05] <wols> dsnyders: why do you assume apt is running. did you even read the error message?
[05:06] <wols> KE1HA: please don't put words in my mouth I never ever said. thank you
[05:06] <jdevel> I'm looking to control mysql's logs a bit.. I was hoping there was some functionality I haven't been able to find yet to limit the information that is logged when the general log is enabled.
[05:06] <justdave> I frequently accessed a shared folder on one of my OS X boxes from my Ubuntu Lucid box.  The OS X box was running 10.5.  I just upgraded it to Lion and now I can still view directory listings from Ubuntu, but any attempts to actually access the files gets a "function not implemented" error.  Anyone know what I need to kick to fix it?
[05:06] <wols> jdevel: log to where?
[05:06] <meoblast001> root      2523  0.0  4.3  26876 21816 ?        S    00:50   0:00 apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-server mysql-client
[05:06] <dsnyders> wols, the error message asks if another process is using it
[05:06] <meoblast001> ah, it's still hung on that install
[05:06] <jdevel> well mysql logs to /var/log/mysql/mysql.log right now
[05:06] <GreenCloud> meoblast001: this kind of problem almost always got fixed by itself...you can try reboot
[05:07] <jdevel> since I enabled it
[05:07] <meoblast001> ok, rebooting
[05:07] <jdevel> however, I want to limit the amount of things that are logged.  Such as queries.. I don't want to log them but I do want to log authentication.
[05:07] <meoblast001> but now i don't realize why i'm uninstalling mysql in the first place
[05:07] <meoblast001> i was uninstalling it so i could tell wols the information on what he was asking
[05:07] <meoblast001> but now there's really no point
[05:08] <KE1HA> wols: ok, sorry I will quote you exactly from now on.
[05:08] <meoblast001> what was my plan b.... it was either dist-upgrade (which never works), install from source, or switch distros
[05:08] <meoblast001> eep.. none of which i want to do
[05:09] <GreenCloud> meoblast001: you could also try apt-get --fix-missing, then update, before upgrade or dist-upgrade...
[05:10] <meoblast001> well, my problem is that MySql is not working
[05:10] <dsnyders> meoblast001, is apt working now?
[05:10] <meoblast001> just got the machine rebooted
[05:11] <meoblast001> ok, working now
[05:11] <GreenCloud> meoblast001: glad to hear its working now ;)
[05:11] <meoblast001> thanks
[05:11] <meoblast001> hm, now dpkg -l |grep mysql returns nothing
[05:12] <ilgaz> where do i open 53 port
[05:12] <ilgaz> and other ports aswell
[05:13] <dsnyders> meoblast001, my man page for dpkg does not list a -l option.
[05:13] <wols> !ufw | ilgaz
[05:13] <meoblast001> here it prints out a bunch of package info
[05:13] <escott> ilgaz, gufw or your router
[05:15] <GreenCloud> meoblast001: try sudo apt-get install mysql-server and see if fix the problem...
[05:15] <meoblast001> GreenCloud: nope
[05:15] <meoblast001> now i get http://pastebin.com/CrurstnH
[05:16] <ilgaz> wols, i also installed selinux should i worry about it too?
[05:17] <meoblast001> ugh
[05:17] <meoblast001> i'm told to +t /tmp
[05:17] <meoblast001> not sure what that will do
[05:17] <dsnyders> meoblast001, I think that that means mysql is up and running.  You need to configure it now.
[05:18] <rocktop> hello anyida about the tmp file I have all scripts showing that open(/tmp/sess_c251ac57434ac92089448024cbedfcdf, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) otherwise I have the /tmp is not full !!!
[05:18] <meoblast001> dsnyders: looks eerily similar to the cannot connect message it gives me every time i try to use the database
[05:18] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[05:18] <meoblast001> oh, btw, it hangs after i get that mesage
[05:18] <meoblast001> apt-get does
[05:20] <escott> meoblast001, +t is the sticky bit. makes it so only the owner of the file can modify it (important in a shared directory like /tmp)
[05:20] <escott> meoblast001, shouldn't say modify... rather rename/delete/move
[05:20] <meoblast001> i'm still getting that stupid: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:21] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[05:21] <brullek> hi
[05:22] <dsnyders> meoblast001, I found mysql difficult to set up and use by itself.  I wound up using a web interface program called phpmysqladmin or some such thing.
[05:23] <meoblast001> i'll install that then try to remember what port it runs on
[05:23] <fission6> mysql has a query browser gui tool
[05:23] <fission6> some ides have mysql front ends as well
[05:23] <meoblast001> GUI won't work on my server
[05:23] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[05:24] <dsnyders> meoblast001, YOu may also wish to head over to the #mysql chat group to see what they have to say.
[05:24] <meoblast001> haha
[05:24] <meoblast001> An error occurred while installing the database: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:24] <rocktop> anyidea?
[05:24] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[05:25] <fission6> meoblast001, did you start the service?
[05:25] <bazhang> !repeat | niman
[05:25] <meoblast001> fission6: many times
[05:25] <meoblast001> i think learning postgre might be a good idea about now
[05:25] <meoblast001> at least postgre wo.. i won't speak too soon
[05:25] <niman> bazhang: my backlight and any function key dont work
[05:26] <niman> bazhang: last night working but today ....
[05:26] <bazhang> niman, please dont repeat so quickly.
[05:26] <niman> bazhang:hmmmm no body awnser me
[05:26] <niman> bazhang: i must go university
[05:27] <bazhang> niman, patience. if no one knows, no one will answer
[05:37] <andantino> i can't remember who all helped me out, but thanks, i got everything working with grub
[05:39] <dsnyders> HI all!  I am trying to run wireshark, but it does not list any network interfaces.  What do I do to get my interfaces showing?
[05:41] <dsnyders> Nevermind folks.  I got it.  sudo.  /me slaps forehead.
[05:44] <GigaGiga1> woot woot
[05:44] <GigaGiga1> people go to sleep
[05:44] <AnxiousNut> `du file.txt` gives me "4	file.txt", Is there a way to omit the filename in the output?
[05:51] <jinu> how to watch command running in a machine?
[05:53] <gry> jinu: "ps"?
[05:54] <KE1HA> jinu: depends on the command running I suppose, but you can tail the logfile: fail -f /var/log/some-log-file.log or justt do a simple top -d 1 or something and look for your application / script etc.
[05:55] <KE1HA> or is it's a service, use the staus scritps etc, ps there's loads of ways depending on the app/script
[05:55] <GreenCloud> jinu: what exactly do you mean 'watch' ?
[05:55] <jinu> for example how to determine mount command is running or not?
[05:56] <KE1HA> it either works or it doesn't, it's not a progressive funciton.
[05:57] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[05:57] <GreenCloud> jinu: i agree with KE1HA
[05:57] <KE1HA> jinu: is you just nee to see what is mounted, just type mount in a terminal
[05:58] <george__> what's the difference between using ntfs and ntfs-3g for mounting in fstab?
[05:59] <KE1HA> sorry by KB is not playing well here. If you need to see what is mounted, just type: mount   in a terminal and it will list what is mounted.
[05:59] <GreenCloud> george__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685880
[06:01] <george__> GreenCloud, cached version maybe? don't have ubuntu account and it's asking me to login
[06:01] <KE1HA> george__: short answer is, ntfs-3g is an open source implementaiton of ntfs, where ntfs is of cource Microsoft.
[06:01] <moes> Lucid 10.04 ...grub 1.98...I can display grub by holding down the shift key...How do i make it display upon boot.
[06:01] <jinu> KE1HA: not in the case of mounting. I want to create program that listen typed command in terminal..
[06:02] <george__> KE1HA, hmm, alright, seems that ntfs is supported by the linux kernel, I guess it was implemented by microsoft in the kernel?
[06:03] <KE1HA> jinu: sri Im not following what your aksing for here, you want a script to monitor somthing that you tell to run on your box?
[06:03] <jinu> KE1HA: yeap
[06:04] <KE1HA> george__: I dont know who implemented ntfs support in the Kernel, I could  find out easy enough, but the main point is, both file systems are/do have support in the later Kernel versions.
[06:05] <george__> KE1HA, so no differences, just that one is supposed to be free open source implementation and the other closed source?
[06:06] <KE1HA> jinu: Ok, well like I said earlier, depends on the script your running. If its a service, there's lots of thigns you can do, or maube backup script or somethign, can tail the log like I mentioned earlier, all depends on what the app/script is intended to do as to how best to monitor it.
[06:06] <KE1HA> george__: Im sure there diffrences per say, left me finf the 3g wiki and you cna have a read.
[06:06] <jinu> KE1HA: thanks
[06:07] <george__> KE1HA, ok, thanks
[06:07] <KE1HA> george__: here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G
[06:07] <cjs> How do I find a site in Japan that has a copy of the 11.04 i386 alternate install CD image? I can't seem to find this information on the web site.
[06:07] <V13Axel> Any command-line-only users in here?
[06:08] <george__> KE1HA, lol read this, still didn't understand difference
[06:08] <gry> V13Axel: If you have strong reasons that nobody in an official support channel has cli skills, ask that again
[06:08] <KE1HA> george__: One ya have to pay for and one is free :-)
[06:08] <gry> reasons to believe even
[06:09] <george__> KE1HA, not trying to be a nuisance but I haven't paid for anything, haven't installed ntfs-3g yet I'm still able to write to a NTFS Hard Disk
[06:10] <goddard> can some one explain how to include header files in the usr/include section for a project?
[06:10] <MrSalt> I've got a command line question as I get back into it again: what's the most popular command line web browser these days?  They all seem to have thier proponents.
[06:10] <ParkerR> MrSalt, elinks or lynx are great
[06:11] <goddard> lynx is probably
[06:11] <KE1HA> george__: I dont know yoru install, but that's the diff's between the two, at least from a 30K foot look.
[06:11] <MrSalt> ParkerR, goddard : Cool.  Started using screen/irssi again, and playing with more commands
[06:12] <ParkerR> I never really used screen
[06:12] <ParkerR> Dunno why
[06:12] <goddard> MrSalt: irssi just makes sense
[06:12] <george__> KE1HA, lol, alright, thanks for the help you could provide, I too see that they say it adds write support for NTFS, but already have write support without ntfs-3g, that's what I found strange
[06:12] <ParkerR> goddard, Amen!
[06:12] <zabomber> screen is awesome and irssi is beautiful!!
[06:12] <g3rdi> hey .. i tried to install ubuntu 11.04 on the vm player by vm tools and it gave me a error "cant start ..." - this was after i got the ubuntu loading page, it then regressed to a dos like cmd interface
[06:12] <MrSalt> goddard: Still trying to figure out the irssi windowing though.  :)
[06:12] <ParkerR> I think I have read it before but what does creen do?
[06:12] <Flannel> MrSalt: w3m was installed by default (until 11.04)
[06:12] <ParkerR> *screen
[06:12] <goddard> MrSalt: yeah its a little tricky but worth the effort
[06:12] <Flannel> MrSalt: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi will help with that.
[06:13] <MrSalt> Flannel: Is w3m any good?  It's not installed by default anymore?
[06:13] <Flannel> MrSalt: It's not installed by default on 11.04; no textmode browser is.
[06:14] <MrSalt> Flannel: Oh. I've yet to try on this new box, but I had several installed on my last box.  They all have thier points, some have color, some do frames, some mouse control.
[06:14] <a8nchs_burrito> IUSEITALLTHETIME
[06:14] <cjs> MrSalt: tmux is recently a popular alternative to screen.
[06:14] <gry> ?
[06:14] <Flannel> MrSalt: Aye, there's tradeoffs for most of them, as they focus on different things.
[06:15] <Flannel> MrSalt: luckily, they tend to be smaller, so trying a few is easy
[06:15] <MrSalt> cjs: Haven't heard of tmux.  Will have to look it up.
[06:15] <MrSalt> Flannel: Yeah, they're easy to install.
[06:15] <dufei> han
[06:15] <cjs> Ah, found it. Why ubuntu.com is suggesting I download a CD image at 35 KB/sec from Australia rather than 1.5 MB/sec from a local site in Japan is beyond me.
[06:16] <dufei> 又成英文了
[06:16] <g3rdi> error (initramfs) cpL: cant start '/custom-installation/third=override/*': No such file or directory mount: mounting /dev/loop0 .... please help im super keen to use ubuntu i really cant take another day with this flipping mac!
[06:16] <gry> cjs: Because some of the data the browser sends indicate that you're in Australia.
[06:16] <gry> !jp | dufei
[06:16] <dufei> 输入啥变成中文
[06:17] <zabomber> cjs: what browser are you using and what are your locale settings?
[06:17] <MrSalt> Another question:  I used to quickly compare performance on different boxed by looking at the bogomips number when I wanted a ballpark benchmark.  Is there some new/better way to get a quick benchmark of a system?
[06:17] <dufei> ubuntu-cn
[06:17] <gry> !zh | dufei
[06:18] <MrSalt> boxed->boxes
[06:18] <g3rdi> somebody...anybody? :(
[06:19] <cjs> gry: I very much doubt it; I've read the headers my browser sends. I'm using Firefox (with the Live Headers plugin) with LANG=en_US.utf8.
[06:19] <a8nchs_burrito> why? are you attempting to hide Process?
[06:20] <cjs> MrSalt: Not really, unless you want to download a quickie benchmark program and use up some CPU. That would be quite a lot less bogus, but usually ignores anything beyond the CPU (or even the cache on the CPU).
[06:21] <gry> cjs: look at http://whatismyip.com, run `whois ip` in shell - is this your real IP, or an Australian one (like if you use a proxy)?
[06:21] <a8nchs_burrito> lol
[06:21] <a8nchs_burrito> freenode is UK
[06:21] <cjs> I.e., it's unlikely to corelate much with how fast your desktop apps seem.
[06:21] <a8nchs_burrito> bucko
[06:21] <MrSalt> cjs: What's a quickie benchmark program. Searching seems to find these giant libraries.
[06:21] <KE1HA> g3rdi: Isee the error you posted, but just to be sure everyone understands what your trying to do, could you explain that, are you installing the UB-Mac Distro or another version?
[06:22] <cjs> gry: I'm on a connection without NAT. (It's my server, configured myself, on my network connection.)
[06:22] <g3rdi> KE1HA: I just downloaded the recommended version form the website ubuntu 11.04-destop-i386
[06:23] <a8nchs_burrito> probably not
[06:23] <KE1HA> g3rdi: Ok, and your hardware is Mac HW?
[06:23] <a8nchs_burrito> Ubuntu has, oddly, configured their network manager to not show UI
[06:23] <a8nchs_burrito> ....
[06:23] <cjs> MrSalt: I'm trying to recall. There was one small suite that had a number of basic tests to get an idea of integer and FP performance, but I don't remember the name now, it's been so long since I used it. And it doesn't come up in "aptitude search benchmark".
[06:23] <gry> cjs: No idea, if that site shows a Japanese ip then you would have to contact the webmasters.
[06:23] <g3rdi> well. at work its a mac but at home its windows .. both using vm tools to install ubuntu
[06:24] <g3rdi> KE1HA: ^
[06:24] <MrSalt> cjs Thanks
[06:24] <a8nchs_burrito> unsure the point of that
[06:24] <cjs> MrSalt: Honestly, I find the fastest way is just to find out what the hardware is (CPU, memory, disk) and look up the CPU info on Wikipedia.
[06:24] <a8nchs_burrito> because UI is to make things simple ..
[06:25] <a8nchs_burrito> Ever figured out the encyrption problem ?
[06:25] <KE1HA> g3rdi: I've not done one in a long time, but this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[06:26] <KE1HA> g3rdi: and I gotta say I can't stand the wife's Mac-Pro, drives me nuts the way things work :-)
[06:26] <MrSalt> cjs: Yeah, that works.  It's good to ask in case there is some user knowledge not obvious in a google search.  Thanks.
[06:27] <g3rdi> KE1HA: wierd this is this whole setup was working with 10.10. I got new box and then a new job with the mac (<- life ruiner ) and saw the new features in 11 , and am so want it
[06:27] <a8nchs_burrito> Lots of morons cram search engines with crap
[06:27] <a8nchs_burrito> so often its hard to see from the mesh of things
[06:28] <g3rdi> "this is this" - just "this" :)
[06:28] <GreenCloud> lol
[06:28] <MrSalt> a8nchs_burrito: Yep
[06:29] <KE1HA> g3rdi: :-) yeah, like I said, Id' ahve to read though the docs to 100% on a Mac install, been too long, but the docs look ok.
[06:30] <cjs> How's the state of 11.10 (alpha3) at the moment? Pretty usable?
[06:30] <bullgard4_> [Natty] A GNOME teminal has the proper keyboard layout. (The proper keyboard layout is "Germany 105 keys". A virtual terminal has an improper keyboard layout How can I set the virtual terminal keyboard layout permanently to "Germany 105 keys" so that this setting survives a reboot? '~$ dpkg-reconfigure console-data' has no permanent effect.
[06:31] <KE1HA> cjs: sorta, check Ubuntu-QA, i did about 60 or so ISO installs, ran into a fair few bugs.
[06:31] <harry_> yes actually when ever i change the language at the time of login the locale $lang is not getting set to the langauge which i have selected...!!
[06:31] <MrSalt> cjs Researching tmux.  Looks cool
[06:32] <g3rdi> KE1HA: I think it is time... I have been stalling on creating a dual boot ( it ease the transistion before a neo boot( just made this phrase up now ;) because i want photoshop but you know what ... stuff it. gimp and ink look really good .
[06:33] <g3rdi> it= to .. . i also need a new keyboard .. or fingers
[06:33] <KE1HA> g3rdi: gimp, once ya lean it's features is really powerfull.
[06:33] <a8nchs_burrito> hey does ubuntu support do remote service "help" ?
[06:34] <MrSalt> g3rdi: You'll probably still find a need to switch back and forth.  Dual booting is good, but VirtualBox also works really well these days.
[06:34] <a8nchs_burrito> Gap is gimps animation plugin very dynamic
[06:34] <KE1HA> Yeah I think the Mac has the Audio / Vid editing suite of tools, but the rest, well, it's up to the person I think.
[06:35] <sabya> what is the best way to install Ubuntu if I have Windows 7 with dynamic disk partition?
[06:35] <g3rdi> MrSalt: ok virtual box sounds good . Im using VM tools , but it seems pretty heavy duty
[06:35] <KE1HA> sabya: you want dual boot or all Ubuntu?
[06:36] <sabya> dual boot
[06:36] <a8nchs_burrito> Why is it KDE doesn't like dual cores?
[06:36] <KE1HA> sabya: I would choose the side by side install option when presented with it by the Ubuntu Install CD.
[06:36] <MrSalt> g3rdi: Newer processors have better hardware support for virtualization which some software supports, like VirtualBox.  Pretty slick.
[06:36] <sabya> KE1HA: I did a wubi, but the bootloader is gone
[06:37] <a8nchs_burrito> dont use Ubuntu server
[06:37] <a8nchs_burrito> it is broken...
[06:37] <a8nchs_burrito> They... placed files into a location
[06:37] <g3rdi> MrSalt: sweet! downloading now
[06:37] <KE1HA> sabya: I dont recommend Wubi. Here's a descent guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/step-by-step-guide-installing-ubuntu-11-04-natty-on-a-windows-7-dual-booting.html
[06:37] <a8nchs_burrito> an it doesn't initilze properly
[06:38] <a8nchs_burrito> the grub doesn't loadout
[06:38] <a8nchs_burrito> because it does not know where the files are
[06:38] <a8nchs_burrito> lol
[06:39] <MrSalt> g3rdi: Check, sometimes you have to enable the hardware virtualization support in your BIOS. (If it's a Mac, I'm not sure how you do it).  My newest motherboard has it enabled by default if you've got a newer Intel processor.
[06:39] <KE1HA> sabya: I  looking for the Ubuntu Wiki on this, but the main thing about all these WinDoze / Ubuntu dual boots is, Windows has to be installed & running first, then Install Ubuntu, ans use Grub2 asn the bootloader.
[06:39] <bahamas> i'm having a problem with ubuntu that no one is able to answer. should i ask the mailing list for advice? i'm willing to even look at code to fix this
[06:40] <a8nchs_burrito> Xorg in Opensuse is weird too
[06:40] <MrSalt> g3rdi: Virtualbox will tell you if the hardware virtualization is enabled.  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/X86_virtualization
[06:40] <sabya> I could not install Ubuntu in a separate partion. since my HDD is formatted as Dynamic disk.
[06:40] <KE1HA> sabya: Here's the Ubuntu version: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:41] <KE1HA> sabya: was this with the Wubi install or the LiveCD Install?
[06:42] <a8nchs_burrito> I have to rewrite it in order to get a stable screen
[06:42] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[06:42] <sabya> Live CD
[06:42] <picasso> hi, is there any reason that a user account created with useradd -r (system account) could not open a listen socket on a high port?
[06:43] <a8nchs_burrito> i believe it is Xorgs fault though or Opensuse for not updating their Xorg ports... either way it installs better on older machines.
[06:43] <KE1HA> sabya: I'd follow that second link I sent you, ans Create a partition for Ubuntu, then install it.
[06:44] <a8nchs_burrito> Also dont use libre office... It is screwy
[06:44] <MrSalt> niman: My old Thinkpad T42 had to install the package "tpb" to get the button support.  Have no idea if you still need it for newer hardware.
[06:44] <a8nchs_burrito> Why does it have to autorun at the start of the system ?
[06:45] <niman> MrSalt: tnx but i install it any package need to work
[06:45] <harry_> Yes its happening for all the languages and the link which u provided has true discription for all the verions of Ubuntu below 11.04 means uptill 10.10 but its not true for Ubuntu 11.04
[06:45] <niman> MrSalt: but not working function key
[06:45] <a8nchs_burrito> All it does is create the never ending table at startup
[06:45] <a8nchs_burrito> an trys to say
[06:45] <a8nchs_burrito> it is needed by every program..
[06:45] <niman> MrSalt: last night working
[06:46] <niman> MrSalt: morning when i turrned on did not working
[06:46] <picasso> yeah, nm, nc works fine on that port
[06:46] <a8nchs_burrito> ever figured out that encyrption problem ?
[06:47] <urlin2u> hmm a bot
[06:47] <g3rdi> watched a video by mark shuttleworth about ubuntu .. man im so amped!!!
[06:47] <urlin2u> g3rdi, do you have a link/
[06:48] <MrSalt> niman: Yes, if you had it working, then it's probably not a package thing.  I don't know much about hardware compatability and why it wouldn't work now.  I just spoke up because I know about the tpb for the old function buttons.  Maybe install it again?
[06:48] <a8nchs_burrito> popcorn with light ranch sause
[06:48] <a8nchs_burrito> is not as good as regular ranch
[06:48] <MrSalt> a8nchs_burrito: Popcorn with ranch?
[06:49] <niman> MrSalt: i do it when you saying this but not working yet :D
[06:49] <a8nchs_burrito> yea im also anxious
[06:49] <picasso> hm, ok, so i actually cannot listen on the IP i'm trying to. i have a second IP assigned to my NIC on this server
[06:49] <g3rdi> urlin2u: its not technical but .. hes a good speaker , more on opensource ethos .. one sec
[06:49] <a8nchs_burrito> couldn't tell ya picasso
[06:50] <a8nchs_burrito> try to see if ubuntu will do a remote support connection to yr system..
[06:50] <a8nchs_burrito> They do do tht righ t? ..
[06:50] <MrSalt> Off to bed.  Thank you all for the help.
[06:50] <picasso> a8nchs_burrito: you talking to me?
[06:50] <g3rdi> urlin2u: http://www.designindaba.com/speaker/presentation/mark-shuttleworth-2011
[06:50] <urlin2u> g3rdi, thanks.
[06:50] <a8nchs_burrito> hard too say
[06:51] <a8nchs_burrito> is thr another picasso in this 1441 room ?
[06:52] <moes> Lucid 10.04..grub 1.98..I can display grub by holding down shift key...How do I get grub to display when booting??
[06:52] <a8nchs_burrito> I couldn't tell ya
[06:52] <MzPaige> hello...
[06:53] <a8nchs_burrito> tastes more like tartar sause
[06:53] <adzy> anyone know how i can optimize my internet connection??? anything i can downlaod???
[06:53] <niman> hi every one ihave thinkpad 14 edge and backlight and volume and other function key work good last night today morning when i turn on my labtop even volume key not working . help me plz i use ubuntu 11 with 2.6.38 kernel
[06:55] <a8nchs_burrito> Use secure connection with WIFI
[06:55] <MzPaige> I think I messed something up good.  I was trying to fix my audio and I switched the driver and now none of the software I install wants to work! I am a newbie when it comes to Linux >.<
[06:56] <theadmin> MzPaige: You want to install Pulseaudio back?
[06:56] <a8nchs_burrito> errr
[06:56] <bullgard4_> [Natty] A GNOME teminal has the proper keyboard layout. (The proper keyboard layout is "Germany 105 keys".) A virtual terminal has an improper keyboard layout How can I set the virtual terminal keyboard layout permanently to "Germany 105 keys" so that this setting survives a reboot? '~$ dpkg-reconfigure console-data' has no permanent effect.
[06:56] <a8nchs_burrito> try one ... either pulse or gstream... Not both just one..
[06:56] <MzPaige> yes I think so. It is telling me I should use a Generic driver or something like that.
[06:58] <adzy> hey anyone know of any apps i can download to help optimize my internet connection or diagnose the weak points?
[06:59] <a8nchs_burrito> when i debug stuff I usually run in Xmode
[06:59] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Maybe you can just add "loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/whatever" to your .bashrc?
[07:00] <a8nchs_burrito> that bashrc sucks.... it conflicts after over 1000 entries
[07:00] <a8nchs_burrito> it will start mixmatching commands
[07:00] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
[07:01] <a8nchs_burrito> I know what I am talking about do you ?
[07:01] <MzPaige> This is what it keeps telling me No pre-built modules for the 2.6.32-33-generic kernel. Please use a generic package
[07:01] <MzPaige> or the right pre-compiled package for your kernel.
[07:01] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: I do, you don't. .bashrc is *just* a shellscript, executed on startup of bash.
[07:01] <a8nchs_burrito> What do you think that file is for ? . .
[07:02] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: It can't "conflict", unless you have written it wrongly.
[07:02] <mshadle> is there a way to tell apt to hold certain packages back forever?
[07:02] <theadmin> mshadle: There is, just a sec... Lemme find it
[07:02] <ThinkT510> !pin | mshadle
[07:02] <a8nchs_burrito> no... You can delete it an everything works fine...
[07:03] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: You sure can, it'll just NOT run a script on bash startup then.
[07:03] <theadmin> mshadle: This would work: echo "packagename hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[07:04] <a8nchs_burrito> nope it will.. Thats not what the file is for.
[07:04] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Well, you're just being silly.
[07:04] <a8nchs_burrito> ok
[07:04] <a8nchs_burrito> its a autogen file
[07:04] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Look, .bashrc is read on bash startup. .vimrc is read on vim startup, etc. That's what .*rc files are for.
[07:05] <a8nchs_burrito> vim is crap
[07:05] <a8nchs_burrito> VI
[07:05] <a8nchs_burrito> is better
[07:05] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Vim is Vi Improved.
[07:05] <a8nchs_burrito> yea i know what it is.
[07:05] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Infact, plain vi is not even available in Ubuntu, it's all just Vim.
[07:06] <polarbear> hey is anyone on that can help me with installing starcraft :P
[07:06] <a8nchs_burrito> yep...
[07:06] <wildbat> !wine | polarbear
[07:06] <theadmin> polarbear: Wine can
[07:07] <polarbear> coolio
[07:08] <a8nchs_burrito> Wine is annoying
[07:08] <aum___> is there any php room
[07:08] <wildbat> ##php
[07:08] <a8nchs_burrito> it burries itself all throughout a system
[07:08] <mshadle> k cool. i was never able to pin before but it seems to work for this. thanks
[07:08] <a8nchs_burrito> puts wine files everywhere
[07:09] <a8nchs_burrito> then it doesn't uninstall correctly
[07:09] <a8nchs_burrito> like VIM
[07:09] <rhcp[]> Hello all
[07:09] <rhcp[]> Crazy question. I had 11.04 working just fine. I logged out
[07:09] <rhcp[]> then when i try to login again. i click my user or any user. it just beeps
[07:09] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: wine has its own directory: .wine (in the home folder)
[07:09] <theadmin> !ops | a8nchs_burrito is talking nonsense and confusing users here.
[07:09] <rhcp[]> and doesnt ask for passowrd
[07:09] <rhcp[]> ideas?
[07:09] <a8nchs_burrito> no...
[07:10] <rhcp[]> i can login from term if i press ctrl-alt-2
[07:10] <rhcp[]> or something
[07:10] <rhcp[]> with no issues
[07:10] <theadmin> rhcp[]: That's odd, does clicking on "Other" work?
[07:10] <rhcp[]> no
[07:10] <a8nchs_burrito> it places wine files in every corner of your system...
[07:10] <rhcp[]> it just beeps and the menu goes up and down
[07:10] <rhcp[]> kinda
[07:10] <rhcp[]> hard to explain
[07:10] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: please stop talking nonsense
[07:10] <bullgard4_> theadmin: So far /home/<username>/.bashrc does not include any line with the string »loadkeys«. What should I substitute for "whatever"?
[07:10] <a8nchs_burrito> attaches to nautilus sendto
[07:10] <a8nchs_burrito> purple
[07:11] <a8nchs_burrito> and numerous other applications..
[07:11] <rhcp[]> any help would be appricated greayl here
[07:11] <rhcp[]> I just got * setup right
[07:11] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Check /usr/share/keymaps to find something similar to your layout
[07:11] <Slart> a8nchs_burrito: do you have an actual ubuntu question? spamming about wine is better done in #winehq
[07:11] <theadmin> bullgard4_: I'm not sure what it is
[07:11] <rhcp[]> ive never seen this before
[07:12] <a8nchs_burrito> why ya knockin me for? ..
[07:12] <a8nchs_burrito> DO you work for Wine..?
[07:12] <a8nchs_burrito> then I have formal complaints
[07:12] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: You're speaking nonsense again. It doesn't get in sendto, it doesn't do ANYTHING with purple apps at all.
[07:12] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Please stop this. Seriously now. You're being insanely offtopic.
[07:12] <a8nchs_burrito> ok go to libpurple, if you have it installed
[07:12] <Slart> a8nchs_burrito: take it to #winehq.. and stop pressing enter so much.. try to keep your answers on one line and adress whomever your speaking to
[07:13] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: this is a support channel, you are making it difficult to help people by talking rubbish
[07:13] <a8nchs_burrito> then what is #ubuntu-support?
[07:13] <theadmin> Seriously, someone kick him (her?)
[07:13] <ThinkT510> jussi: thanks
[07:14] <rhcp[]> im uploasing a video
[07:14] <MzPaige> I think I may have figured out what I did wrong.  I don't know how to fix it though.  I think I somehow managed to make ALSA default instead of PulseAudio.
[07:14] <theadmin> jussi: thanks a lot, you can't beleive how annoying those "know-it-all-but-wrong"'s are :D
[07:15] <a8nchs_burrito> Just uninstall it
[07:15] <rhcp[]> Here is the video
[07:15] <rhcp[]> https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Photos/Merc_C_class/VID_20110809_031309.m4v?w=a17395c2
[07:15] <rhcp[]> let me know if you can watch it
[07:15] <a8nchs_burrito> and either install pulse or Gstream
[07:15] <a8nchs_burrito> it will fall into default
[07:15] <Flannel> a8nchs_burrito: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  Thanks.
[07:15] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: do you even know what gstreamer is?
[07:16] <a8nchs_burrito> Do you?
[07:16] <^madhatter> what does sudo depmod -a actually do?
[07:16] <rhcp[]> fixes dependies afaik
[07:16] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: it isn't a sound system like pulse or alsa
[07:16] <rhcp[]> wish that was my issue
[07:16] <rhcp[]> :)
[07:16] <rhcp[]> anyone with this login issue?
[07:16] <rhcp[]> i dont feel like re-installing
[07:16] <a8nchs_burrito> oh... I thought pulseaudio was for KDE
[07:16] <a8nchs_burrito> .
[07:16] <bahamas> ^madhatter: man depmod
[07:17] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: pulseaudio is used by GNOME, and is the only soundsystem supported by Gnome3
[07:17] <a8nchs_burrito> Gnome
[07:17] <a8nchs_burrito> gstreamer
[07:17] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Most other desktops use plain ALSA.
[07:17] <a8nchs_burrito> i could be wrong but possibly there is some simularity there
[07:17] <Slart> rhcp[]: never seen that problem before.. not really sure why it would skip the password, unless you've changed the settings to do that.. and that isn't something you do by mistake
[07:17] <rhcp[]> Slart I did 0
[07:18] <rhcp[]> all i did was logout
[07:18] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: gstreamer is just a set of multimedia codecs or something like that.
[07:18] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: It ain't a soundsystem.
[07:18] <a8nchs_burrito> Fedora has a uses bunch of KDE extensions...
[07:18] <Slart> rhcp[]: you did? then I must have misunderstood what your problem was
[07:18] <rhcp[]> All i did was logout. then try to login
[07:18] <jussi> a8nchs_burrito: please take offtopic to #ubunut-offtopic and keep this channel for ubuntu support. thanks
[07:18] <rhcp[]> and this happeneds
[07:19] <rhcp[]> Slart
[07:19] <a8nchs_burrito> Then what is #ubuntu-support for?
[07:19] <jussi> a8nchs_burrito: it doesnt exist.
[07:19] <Slart> a8nchs_burrito: this is #ubuntu  .. I don't know what #ubuntu-support is
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[07:20] <taran> how can I join chat forum of CUPS?
[07:20] <rhcp[]> so anyone? ideas? please?
[07:20] <theadmin> What the HECK
[07:20] <theadmin> >.<
[07:20] <a8nchs_burrito> Oh I thought you all ran that one too
[07:20] <a8nchs_burrito> Golly then what is Classroom-Ubuntu for
[07:20] <Flannel> a8nchs_burrito: This channel is #ubuntu, and it's for Ubuntu technical support.  It's not for arbitrary tangential topics.
[07:20] <theadmin> Ops are being a bit too friendly today huh >.<
[07:20] <bullgard4_> theadmin: /usr/share/keymaps/ exists in Ubuntu 10.04 but not in 11.04. Where should I look for in 11.04 instead?
[07:21] <jussi> a8nchs_burrito: #ubuntu-irc can explain about channel purposes
[07:21] <a8nchs_burrito> Some Gnome isn't a topic?
[07:21] <Slart> a8nchs_burrito: here's a suggestion.. join the channel and read the topic.. who knows.. it might say something about the channel
[07:21] <a8nchs_burrito> errr
[07:21] <bahamas> theadmin: they're not here, you mean
[07:21] <ThinkT510> !irc | a8nchs_burrito
[07:21] <a8nchs_burrito> So gnome is not a topic ?
[07:21] <theadmin> bahamas: I think Flannel is one, or used to be at least.
[07:21] <richtroye> Hi, I just tried updating 10-4 and it wanted but couldn't find several files for example logrotate.  Here's the url it wanted --
[07:21] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: If you need support with Gnome, IN UBUNTU, yes.
[07:21] <Flannel> a8nchs_burrito: No, discussions about GNOME are not on topic here.  Discussions "about" Ubuntu aren't even on topic here.  That's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for.  This channel is for technical support.
[07:21] <bahamas> theadmin: i see
[07:22] <richtroye> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/logroate/logrotate_3.7.8-4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[07:22] <a8nchs_burrito> ...
[07:22] <richtroye> I had a look, and earlier and later logrotates are there but not 2.1
[07:22] <Tm_T> a8nchs_burrito: to further discuss about the purpose of this channel, join #ubuntu-irc
[07:23] <richtroye> Any suggests on what I should do about my update?
[07:23] <a8nchs_burrito> Well... Gnome is the controller of Ubuntu it is relavent.
[07:23] <richtroye> s/suggest/&ion
[07:23] <richtroye> a8nchs_burrito Did you know there's an entire IRC channel devoted to gnome?   It's great!  /join #gnome
[07:23] <theadmin> a8nchs_burrito: Gnome isn't the "controller" of Ubuntu, lolwut? It's just a desktop.
[07:23] <a8nchs_burrito> Nah I solve problems
[07:24] <a8nchs_burrito> I dont do remote linkup though.
[07:24] <ThinkT510> a8nchs_burrito: seriously, if you are here to help please know about the subject before giving advice
[07:24] <richtroye> any comments or thoughts on my update issue, logrotate et al, above?
[07:25] <richtroye> Or is there a more appropriate channel for me to take the issue to?
[07:25] <Slart> richtroye: broken repository? have you tried using another one?
[07:25] <Flannel> richtroye: So, you're saying the package is not there?
[07:25] <Starminn> Mozilla Firefox shows a gray box on YouTube where the videos should be; the rest of the page loads fine. Opera and Chromium work perfectly, though. It's just Firefox (the latest stable)
[07:26] <theadmin> Wow... Firefox gets worse and worse... >.<
[07:26] <theadmin> Amazing
[07:26] <theadmin> Ahem, never mind
[07:26] <ThinkT510> Starminn: could you show us a screenie
[07:26] <Flannel> richtroye: 3.1 is the current version in 10.04, is there a reason you're looking for 2.1?
[07:27] <richtroye> I got a flood of failure messages and the logrotate one is just one of them.  I didn't choose a mirror; maybe if I try again it'll automatically choose another mirror?
[07:27] <Flannel> richtroye: Or are you saying that apt was looking for 2.1?  (As far as I can tell, 2.1 never was in the 10.04 repositories, went from 2 to 3 to 3.1)
[07:27] <richtroye> flannel Right, the 2.1 version is not there.  I didn't choose 2.1, I merely clicked update
[07:27] <Starminn> http://imagebin.org/167073 <-- Music plays fine.
[07:27] <ParkerR> Anyone available that is good at bash scripting?
[07:28] <Slart> ParkerR: just ask your question.. I think there is a channel for bash as well.. ##bash or #bash perhaps?
[07:28] <Starminn> And I can still itneract with the video as though nothing were wrong (pause/play/volume)
[07:28] <richtroye> flannel I didn't do anything but click on update manager and tell it to update everything with another click.
[07:28] <AFD> I have an ubuntu 10.04 LTSP + DHCP server with 2x NIC and although I can ping my router I cannot ping 8.8.8.8 I also just edited my /etc/hosts so both the NIC IPs were included. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[07:28] <Flannel> richtroye: oh wait, I got mixed up somehow with versions.  10.04 had 2.1, and now it has 2.2.  Do you have -proposed enabled by any chance?
[07:28] <ThinkT510> Starminn: do you happen to have nvidia graphics too?
[07:28] <richtroye> flannel tell me how to determine if I do and I'll try it and tell you
[07:29] <GoodAD> .
[07:29] <richtroye> If its default is disabled, I'm sure I didn't change the default
[07:29] <Flannel> richtroye: The easiest way for you and me is to just pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[07:29] <richtroye> thanks, will do, flannel, hold on a bit
[07:30] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Graphics == VGA, right?
[07:30] <GoodAD>                                                                                                                                                                                              .                                                                                                                                                                                         Lol!
[07:30] <ThinkT510> Starminn: yeah, if you are looking under lspci
[07:31] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Yeah, I am. "lspci | grep VGA" returns "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]"
[07:31] <GoodAD>                                                                                                                                                                                              .                                                                                                                                                                                         hi!
[07:31] <string> hi
[07:31] <AFD> Any ideas why I could ping my router and not the internet? (this is only from my server, not wifi clients)
[07:31] <string> any person works with openerp??
[07:31] <bullgard4_>   /usr/share/keymaps/ exists in Ubuntu 10.04 but not in 11.04. Where should I look for in 11.04 for available keymaps?
[07:31] <ThinkT510> Starminn: oh, ati
[07:31] <richtroye> flannel I hope it writes everything to stdout not stderr cuz I did "sudo apt-get update > sudo.out"  -- Should I kill it and start it with additional 2>&1, do you think?
[07:32] <GoodAD>                                                                                                                                                                                              .                                                                                                                                                                                         niko pedophilia ircop
[07:32] <GoodAD> in freenode!
[07:32] <FloodBot1> GoodAD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <ParkerR> Well even though I have sudo in front of the cat line it says permission denied https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qj3iusjz87yvwf/nvidia.sh
[07:32] <Flannel> richtroye: As far as I know, everything goes to stdout
[07:32] <richtroye> where's the banhammer ?!?!??
[07:32] <richtroye> okey dokey
[07:32] <Greyknight> Hey
[07:33] <GoodAD>                                                                                                                                                                                             .                                                                                                                     niko pedophilia ircop in freenode!
[07:33] <theadmin> ParkerR: Don't put sudo IN the script, run the script with sudo, i.e. sudo ./nvidia.sh
[07:33] <richtroye> Heh well, not so; there are stderr msgs too.  I will do it again, flannel
[07:33] <theadmin> *facepalm*
[07:33] <rhcp[]> Guys the error message if i click really fast
[07:33] <rhcp[]> says
[07:33] <rhcp[]> error initiating conversation with authentication system - general failure..
[07:33] <ParkerR> theadmin, derp
[07:33] <bullgard4_> theadmin: /usr/share/keymaps/ exists in Ubuntu 10.04 but not in 11.04. Where should I look for in 11.04 instead?
[07:33] <ThinkT510> Starminn: have you updated flash (i know it works in chromium and opera)
[07:33] <ParkerR> Thanks
[07:33] <rhcp[]> ideas?
[07:33] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Hm, honestly, no ideas.
[07:33] <theadmin> rhcp[]: Is dbus running?
[07:34] <rhcp[]> let me login to term
[07:34] <theadmin> rhcp[]: (switch to a tty and "ps aux | grep dbus")
[07:34] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Ok. Thankyou.
[07:34] <Greyknight> Can anyone give me a hand with a problem I am having with installing Ubuntu on my toshiba laptop?
[07:34] <rhcp[]> yes
[07:34] <rhcp[]> debus is running
[07:34] <ParkerR> theadmin, I feel stupid now XD
[07:34] <Starminn> ThinkT510: I tried. Update Manager revealed no updates for Flash. Chromium I know uses its own version. Not sure about Opera.
[07:34] <theadmin> ParkerR: Huh?
[07:34] <bullgard4_> !search install
[07:35] <ParkerR> theadmin, That I had put sudo in the script
[07:35] <ThinkT510> Starminn: opera links to the firefox plugin i think
[07:35] <theadmin> ParkerR: Ahh :D
[07:35] <Greyknight> I get address space collision: host bridge window[mem 0x000cc000-0x000cffff] Conflicts with Video ROM
[07:35] <ParkerR> And not just run it with sudo
[07:35] <bullgard4_> !search setup
[07:35] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Lol, so Opera works and Firefox doesn't. :) Quite the predicament.
[07:35] <ThinkT510> Starminn: it might be a firefox specific issue (cos it works in opera)
[07:35] <Flannel> bullgard4_: Please do that in a query, or #ubuntu-bots, thanks.
[07:35] <theadmin> Yay Opera
[07:36] <theadmin> bullgard4_: What *are* you looking for?
[07:36] <rhcp[]> its saying on google
[07:36] <rhcp[]> to comment out line(@include common-pamkeyring)
[07:36] <rhcp[]> in gdm
[07:36] <rhcp[]> and reboot
[07:36] <rhcp[]> lets see
[07:36] <snn> test
[07:36] <FloodBot1> rhcp[]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Right. But I'm looking for any ideas for solving this.
[07:36] <theadmin> snn: Yes.
[07:36] <rhcp[]> shutup FloodBot1 kthx
[07:36] <theadmin> rhcp[]: It's just a bot.
[07:36] <ThinkT510> Starminn: the only thing i can think of is check which version of flash you got and then go to adobe's site to see if there is a newer version
[07:36] <rhcp[]> i know :)
[07:36] <bullgard4_> theadmin: I was looking for an ubottu help for "[09:34]	<Greyknight>	Can anyone give me a hand with a problem I am having with installing Ubuntu on my toshiba laptop?"
[07:36] <Starminn> rhcp[]: Or don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:37] <rhcp[]> WORKED
[07:37] <snn> theadmin: thx.
[07:37] <richtroye> flannel is there any command-line paster standard with ubuntu, like fedora's fpaste?
[07:37] <rhcp[]> thx to google
[07:37] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Oh, I don't think Ubuntu even has a install guide
[07:37] <Flannel> richtroye: the package is pastebinit
[07:37] <ThinkT510> Starminn: it would be great if flash got opensourced (then we wouldn't have to rely on adobe to fix the stupid thing)
[07:37] <Greyknight> Ummm, guys?
[07:37] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Well we do have gnash
[07:37] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Right.
[07:37] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Isn't Ubuntu always about a version of Flash behind anyway?
[07:37] <snn> uh, its been some time since i used ubuntu. i was happy with gnome-do cant get used to this 'unity' no idea what it is
[07:37] <Greyknight> Can someone give me a hand here, still extremely new to Ubuntu
[07:38] <snn> changed everything though
[07:38] <ThinkT510> Starminn: usually a little behind yeah
[07:38] <theadmin> snn: Gnome Do still works with Unity I think, also, take a look at http://launchy.net
[07:38] <Starminn> snn: It's just a different interface. There's still the old one, GNOME Classic, then there's GNOME 3, Unity, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and dozens more.
[07:39] <Starminn> ThinkT510: So wouldn't it not matter if it was the latest version or not?
[07:39] <Greyknight> LFM help....
[07:39] <snn> starmin & theadmin : i think i like it actually its just that i need to reset my xmodmap settings
[07:39] <ThinkT510> Starminn: it up to you if you want to try out the one from adobe (it might work again with firefox)
[07:40] <theadmin> snn: "setxkbmap us"?
[07:40] <bullgard4_> Flannel: How can I do that in a query?
[07:40] <snn> i cant use my cntrl-alt-super keys :D this is gonna take a while
[07:40] <ThinkT510> Starminn: i tend to use chromium so firefox isn't an issue with me anymore
[07:40] <theadmin> bullgard4_: /query ubottu
[07:40] <snn> *mouses over*
[07:41] <Flannel> bullgard4_: /msg ubottu !search foo
[07:41] <ThinkT510> Greyknight: we can't help if you don't tell us the problem
[07:41] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Adobe's site says 10.3 is the current version, I'm using 10.3.181.34. And yeah, I use Opera. Haven't used Firefox in ages, but I just happened to notice it and even thoug I never use it I would like for it to work.
[07:42] <bullgard4_> Flannel: Thank you.
[07:43] <theadmin> Starminn: Opera is great, stick to it :D
[07:43] <richtroye> Flannel http://pastebin.com/nPMPxBQM
[07:43] <snn> weird, it doesnt read my super key AT ALL
[07:43] <snn> after i reset
[07:43] <Greyknight> Can someone help me with setting up Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop. I go to the setup thing and it goes along merrily, I have changed my SATA to ACHI or whatever that was. It stops doing anything and gives me the message [3.079841] PCI_root PNP0A08:00: Address space sollision: Host bridge window [mem 0x000CC000-0X000cffff] conflicts with Video ROM [mem 0x000c0000-0x000cf1ff]
[07:43] <snn> in xev it reads it as key 2
[07:43] <ThinkT510> Starminn: if you don't use firefox that much, and if no-one else does, then i'd forget about it
[07:43] <Starminn> theadmin: I know. I intend on it. It could easily replace a desktop at this point.
[07:43] <snn> dont know what the paste policy is in this room.
[07:43] <Starminn> ThinkT510: :(
[07:44] <theadmin> Starminn: lol true, true
[07:44] <Starminn> !paste | snn
[07:44] <Flannel> richtroye: looks like there may be a repository issue.  Try disabling the source repositories and seeing if you can update again without the error
[07:44] <urlin2u> Greyknight, why did you change the drive type?
[07:44] <ThinkT510> Starminn: you never know, there might be a flash update in the repos and it will fix the problem in a few days
[07:44] <snn> starmin: HELPFUL!
[07:44] <m_anish> ubottu, ping
[07:44] <Starminn> ThinkT510: Fair enough. Sounds good. Thanks. :)
[07:44] <theadmin> Starminn: Mind if I PM you here?
[07:44] <m_anish> !kernel
[07:44] <richtroye> flannel that line about xchat/source/Sources interests me.  I develop on xchat and I probably tried downloading and building xchat from source on that Ubuntu.  I'd be happy to trash and try over, at your guidance, if it would help
[07:45] <m_anish> !linux
[07:45] <Starminn> theadmin: So long as it's not about support.
[07:45] <theadmin> Starminn: Naturally lol
[07:45] <Starminn> !msgthebot | m_anish
[07:45] <Flannel> richtroye: Thats a repository file though, from what it's saying.  I don't see how something you've done locally would affect it.  I'd try disabling source repos (temporarily) and seeing if it helps
[07:46] <richtroye> flannel okay, I'll try to disable source repos -- How should I start doing that:  Synaptic?  Command line?  I'm weak on debs, strong on rpms
[07:46] <Flannel> richtroye: Do you have a GUI on this box?
[07:46] <richtroye> yes
[07:46] <snn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/661732/
[07:46] <Flannel> richtroye: Are you more comfortable with config files?
[07:46] <snn> my xmodmap settings when i press the super key
[07:46] <richtroye> Vi is my editor, i'm confortable on the command line
[07:47] <dail> hello
[07:47] <snn> xev sorry
[07:47] <richtroye> I know rpm repos files but i would hardly expect deb repos files to look like them so if you'd point me, flannel, I'd have a look
[07:47] <Greyknight> Reposting issue: Can someone help me with setting up Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop. I go to the setup thing and it goes along merrily, I have changed my SATA to ACHI or whatever that was. It stops doing anything and gives me the message [3.079841] PCI_root PNP0A08:00: Address space collision: Host bridge window [mem 0x000CC000-0X000cffff] conflicts with Video ROM [mem 0x000c0000-0x000cf1ff]
[07:47] <dail> guys, one fast thing...i always used KDE, now i have see XFCE, what do you think? is good ?
[07:48] <Greyknight> When i search google it tells me that that is an issue that can be bypassed
[07:48] <dail> i would like to install "xubuntu"
[07:48] <Flannel> richtroye: alright, go ahead and edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and comment out all of the deb-src lines (keeping the deb lines), save the file, then apt-get update again.  You can also check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*, but I don't think you'll find much, if anything, there.
[07:48] <richtroye> dail if this were #fedora I'd say yeah, go with xfce or centos, but ...
[07:48] <theadmin> !xubuntu | dail
[07:48] <Greyknight> but my laptop is just sitting there with that screen up for 1/2 hour or more
[07:48] <richtroye> flannel okay thanks, will do
[07:48] <urlin2u> Greyknight, how many partitions are on the HD now?
[07:48] <Greyknight> 2 I believe
[07:48] <ThinkT510> dail: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <bullgard4_> Greyknight: You did not mention the setup method used.
[07:49] <Greyknight> It is running off a USB
[07:49] <adac> guys, is there a shortcut for the monitor settings of gnome?
[07:49] <Greyknight> The USB is running the setup file
[07:49] <Greyknight> Just rebooting now
[07:49] <urlin2u> Greyknight, it is important to know exactly there are limitations in amounts of partitions on a single HD .
[07:49] <Greyknight> Very well, i shall check
[07:50] <avernos> adac, i believe you can set it up to be in the notification area all the time
[07:50] <urlin2u> Greyknight, take a screen shot of gparted and give us a imagebin of it.
[07:50] <bullgard4_> Greyknight: Your last message is not detailed enough. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:50] <Greyknight> Umm, I am not sure how to do that
[07:50] <Greyknight> I am running the install file from the USB as a bootable drive
[07:51] <Flannel> richtroye: Oh.  Question for you.  Do you have any xchat-specific repositories in that file, or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[07:51] <V13Axel> I know what GNOME is.
[07:51] <V13Axel> Oops~
[07:51] <adac> avernos, ok, thank you
[07:51] <urlin2u> Greyknight, open gparted hit the prtsc key, then paste it here and give us the http. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[07:52] <urlin2u> Greyknight, boot all the way to the desktop to do thuis.
[07:52] <cypha> is there a command to switch to a currently running gui process?
[07:52] <ejv> i've run memtest on my new memory modules and some errors have surfaced, how critical is this?
[07:52] <Greyknight> Okay, should I boot to my windows desktop? and there are currently 3 allocated partitions on the drive and 152GB unallocated space
[07:53] <snn> oh wow
[07:53] <Slart> ejv: I've never been able to use memory modules that have showed errors .. not sure if there are different kinds of errors though
[07:54] <urlin2u> Greyknight, okay you need a extended partition to use ubuntu and a swap, 4 primary partitons s the limit ntfs is a primary.
[07:54] <snn> uhm i had an error on my XKB configuration apparently
[07:54] <snn> -_-
[07:54] <Greyknight> So does that mean that I cannot install Ubuntu on my hard drive?
[07:54] <richtroye> flannel /etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty.  Yeah, there are xchat-specific lines in sources.list -- should I merely remove the xchat token or the whole line?  Well, there's one line ...
[07:54] <Greyknight> Or do i need to format the unallocated space?
[07:54] <ejv> Slart, i believe it's only one stick that's bad, i'm using 4GB sticks, the memtest says the failing address is at 3075.2MB and 3139.2MB, placing it in the first 4GB stick
[07:55] <Flannel> richtroye: Just comment out the (xchat) line.  And sources.list.d being empty isn't a surprise, just one more place to look.
[07:55] <urlin2u> Greyknight, boot the install cd of ubuntu to the desktop find the gparted partitioner and hit prtsc the key and paste it to the link and give us a look you will need to do custom partitioning you may need help there.
[07:55] <Slart> ejv: and you're not getting crashes and other weird things?
[07:55] <Greyknight> Ah, it does not boot to the desktop
[07:55] <urlin2u> Greyknight, is a alternate cd
[07:55] <urlin2u> is it?
[07:55] <ejv> Slart, i have not yet booted an OS yet, the first thing I've done when I assembled this system was run memtest :)
[07:56] <Greyknight> I am booting off a USb and it boots up until I get the same error
[07:56] <cypha> two questions: 1) is there a command to switch to a currently running gui process? 2) what kinda chmod command will apply ownership to me of all files in my home directory?
[07:56] <Greyknight> So should i reburn it to a DVD?
[07:56] <urlin2u> Greyknight, so the error is on the thumb booting?
[07:56] <richtroye> flannel okay, now 'apt-get update' finishes quickly with no error.  I suppose now I should run the GUI update again?
[07:56] <Greyknight> Yes, it can neither boot nor install
[07:56] <Slart> ejv:  ah.. good thing.. if the memory is recently bought I would get them replaced
[07:56] <ejv> If I test the modules in pairs, 2 at a time, no errors surface, (i bought 4 total), but if i test them all together... errors surface
[07:56] <Greyknight> And I have reformatted it a couple of times
[07:56] <ejv> i can't explain this...
[07:56] <iceroot> cypha: sudo chown -R username ~/
[07:56] <Slart> ejv: oh.. that's odd
[07:57] <Slart> ejv: perhaps some kind of controller error.. the motherboard perhaps?
[07:57] <Greyknight> The USB boots on other computers
[07:57] <urlin2u> Greyknight, check the md5sum of the iso if good get unetbootin to load the thumb. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[07:57] <Greyknight> with no problems
[07:57] <Flannel> richtroye: That'll work.  Looks like your xchat specific repository has some configuration issues.
[07:57] <ejv> yea im afraid it my be the motherboard
[07:57] <cypha> iceroot: chown: cannot access `/home/raj/.gvfs': Permission denied
[07:57] <ejv> but how do i test this theory :S
[07:57] <snn> can anyone help me with my XKB error?
[07:57] <iceroot> cypha: sudo
[07:57] <urlin2u> Greyknight, a cd may be bettter than.
[07:57] <richtroye> Flannel  OKey dokey, thanks for your help
[07:57] <cypha> i did sudo
[07:58] <Greyknight> Okay, I will burn it to a DVD nad retry
[07:58] <snn> ive included the recommended things http://paste.ubuntu.com/661738/
[07:58] <snn> somethings wrong with my keyboard
[07:58] <snn> probably me but...
[07:59] <urlin2u> Greyknight, cool we want to make sure you install and don't make your HD dynamic by putting to many partitions on it that would be a disaster.
[08:00] <erchache2000> how i can disable plymouth on my ubuntu lucid server?
[08:00] <Slart> ejv: I would say that if you can run memtest without errors with all the sticks inserted one at a time they should be ok.. perhaps use a known good stick in all the memory slots, one by one
[08:00] <erchache2000> nosplash noplymouth on grub?
[08:00] <Slart> ejv: you can also check in ##hardware , they might have some better suggestions
[08:02] <harry_> hey anyone with the Ubuntu 11.04 actually i m facing a strange scenario...!!
[08:02] <urlin2u> harry_, whats up?
[08:02] <bahamas> is there any other channel where ubuntu devs can be found? i have an issue with the clock which i can't resolve
[08:02] <Flannel> erchache2000: remove your plymouth theme(s).
[08:03] <erchache2000> Flannel: is a server, i dont need plymouth for nothing!
[08:03] <erchache2000> its eating my cpu
[08:03] <harry_> urlin2u:yup suck in a problem from last so many days so ,can say i m very well lol...:P
[08:03] <Flannel> erchache2000: Unfortunately, plymouth can't be removed, so you disable most of it by just removing themes.
[08:03] <j__> can someone help me? i want to delete a bunch of duplicate files
[08:04] <wicope> hi. when i put in terminal sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes ttf-* libsdl-ttf2.0-dev- for example, the package- not work because the terminal say me the same that i put sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes ttf-* ¿What happend, i can fix, how?
[08:04] <urlin2u> bahamas, a clock problem is probably not a developers issue try us. ;)
[08:04] <erchache2000> plymouth must be deleted on server version!
[08:04] <stevecam> im trying to use the VT-x feature of my CPU, and in VirtualBox I get the message information me that the VT-x option is enabled but not optional, can someone help me?
[08:04] <dell> i have connected a usb device.what is that device name?
[08:04] <Flannel> erchache2000: No, it's not.  plymouth manages some lower level things, which is why you can't remove it.  The way to disable the majority of it is to remove all of the themes.
[08:05] <harry_> hey everyone..want to know about "loacle" in Ubuntu 11.04 about lanaguge selection at the time of login/..
[08:05] <erchache2000> Flannel: adding noplymouth on grub will disable it?
[08:05] <Flannel> wicope: don't ever use --force-yes
[08:05] <bahamas> urlin2u: i've tried several times already, but sure
[08:05] <IdleOne> dell: cd /media | ls
[08:05] <Flannel> erchache2000: removing the themes will disable it.
[08:06] <bahamas> urlin2u: the issue is as follows. i installed 64-bit ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, and then i installed all the updates. after installing the updates, the clock stopped displaying time correctly. it's now 8 hours behind
[08:06] <j__> i have a bunch of duplicate files on my hd, how can i delete them all?
[08:06] <urlin2u> bahamas, can you say what you have tried so we get to the crux of it.
[08:06] <bahamas> urlin2u: i've checked Time and Date Settings and the location is correct. i've also installed ntp, but the time is still displayed incorrectly
[08:07] <bullgard4_> 'man setxkbmap - set the keyboard using the X Keyboard Extension.' Does the XLeyboard Extension affect graphical programs using X only, or does it affect the keyboard layout of a virtual terminal also?
[08:07] <cjs> bullgard4_: X only.
[08:07] <bahamas> urlin2u: an additional detail is that if i go on the Time and Date Settings, the time displayed there adjusts itself after a few moments and is correct. the time displayed in the task bar is still behind though
[08:08] <bullgard4_> cjs: Thank you for answering.
[08:08] <urlin2u> bahamas, you have a choice on the first time and ate gui to do it manualy have you tried that?
[08:08] <urlin2u> date
[08:08] <wicope> Flannel: ok, sudo apt-get install ttf-* ttf-symbol-replacement-wine1.3- not work the package- ? because the terminal say me the same that sudo apt-get install ttf-* how i fix?
[08:08] <bahamas> i'm willing to dive into a debugger or something if need be, because i can look at code
[08:08] <cjs> bullgard4_: I don't know much about it, though. I just use xmodmap to tweak my keyboard layout myself.
[08:08] <bahamas> urlin2u: yes, i have
[08:09] <sl33k_> computer goes unresponsive tp the point that ctrl alt f1 doesnt work. how to resume computers working state without restarting it?
[08:09] <bullgard4_> What keyboard layout do you speak about? My keyboard layout differs under X and in a virtual console.
[08:10] <bullgard4_> cjs:  What keyboard layout do you speak about? My keyboard layout differs under X and in a virtual console.
[08:10] <urlin2u> bahamas, strange, I haven't seen anybody else with this problem.
[08:11] <cjs> bullgard4_: I do stuff like swap Esc and backquote, and Ctrl and Caps Lock. Well, and a bunch of other stuff related to using a US layout on a Japanese keyboard.
[08:11] <bahamas> urlin2u: it must be new. before installing the updates, the clock worked just fine
[08:11] <bullgard4_> cjs: You did not tell me if you do that on a virtual console or not.
[08:12] <sl33k_> computer goes unresponsive while using firefox to the point that ctrl alt f1 doesnt work. how to resume computers working state without restarting it?
[08:12] <urlin2u> bahamas, here is a link that may help. http://krisrowland.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/fixed-gnome-clock-shows-wrong-time-gmt-utc-instead-of-local-in-persistent-live-usb-ubuntu-810/
[08:12] <cjs> bullgard4_: No. Only under X11, and only when I"m logged in on my account.
[08:12] <cjs> I rarely use a text console, so I just live with that being the default US layout.
[08:12] <bullgard4_> cjs: Understood. --  I am interested in a virtual console. --  Thank you.
[08:13] <harry_> when i change the langauge at the time of login the "locale" variable is not getting change as per the language selected at the time of login in ubuntu 11.04
[08:13] <urlin2u> bahamas, the command may do it,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[08:14] <bahamas> urlin2u: okay. i'll try it tonight when i get home, and let you know if it worked. thanks
[08:14] <urlin2u> bahamas, hope it does .
[08:14] <jrmy> not sure why my sound doesnt work in applications
[08:14] <snn> OH THANK GOD
[08:15] <bullgard4_> [Natty] A GNOME terminal has the proper keyboard layout. (The proper keyboard layout is "Germany 105 keys".) A virtual terminal has an improper keyboard layout How can I set the virtual terminal keyboard layout permanently to "Germany 105 keys" so that this setting survives a reboot? '~$ dpkg-reconfigure console-data' has no permanent effect.
[08:16] <bullgard4_> !sound | jrmy
[08:17] <tewea>  hey guys i coudnot login to my computer there is an error black screen when the cpmputer starts with an error" no init found.try passing init=bootarg.busybox v1.13.3-1ubuntu11)built-in shell (ash) enter 'help' for alist of built in commands. "please help me
[08:19] <Stormshadow> hi all, tried asking this elsewhere but cant get a reply. Thought maybe the ubuntu community can help out: im trying to launch an X server in the background on a different VT, check for the file X1-lock inside /tmp and then do a chvt to the VT. However, if I dont sleep for 5secs, chvt freezes...has anyone ever encountered this? using busybox chvt
[08:20] <tewea>  hey guys i coudnot login to my computer there is an error black screen when the cpmputer starts with an error" no init found.try passing init=bootarg.busybox v1.13.3-1ubuntu11)built-in shell (ash) enter 'help' for alist of built in commands.
[08:20] <urlin2u> tewea, look at post 3 the command run from a live cd. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167710
[08:21] <urlin2u> tewea, notice it needs to be aimed at the actual partition you have.
[08:22] <tewea> urlin2u:so what supoos to do me
[08:22] <tewea> ?
[08:22] <urlin2u> tewea, look at the link exact same problem, the command is a linux type chkdsk.
[08:23] <snn> help,i.get.an.error.saying.my.XKB.configuration.Cant.activate.so.my.keyboard.is.now.screwd
[08:23] <snn> no.spacebar
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:24] <snn> quite.annoying
[08:24] <gry> snn: Does it fix after restart?
[08:24] <snn> no,it.gets.worse
[08:24] <snn> every.restart.i.get.a.new.'feature'
[08:24] <snn> right.now.the.letter.p.opens.up.unity.search
[08:25] <snn> space.is.gone.and.control.keys.are.gone
[08:25] <snn> it.was.okay.3.restarts.ago
[08:26] <snn> halp:(
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> snn: did you try changing keyboard layout?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> snn: check this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-keyboard/+question/158596
[08:28] <snn> yes,im.at.my.mbp.and.using.apple.macintosh.us
[08:29] <snn> i think i fixed the space
[08:29] <snn> forcing xmodmap to read space
[08:29] <jrmy> audio seems to work with most of teh apps now
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:29] <jrmy> besides one of the games i installed
[08:30] <snn> okay
[08:30] <snn> my spacebar is fine right now
[08:30] <snn> does xmodmap save settings upon exit?
[08:30] <gry> no idea.
[08:30] <snn> after session i mean
[08:31] <snn> here goes
[08:32] <tewea> urlin2u:so so i read it but it is not much clear please
[08:32] <tomatto_> hi
[08:33] <tewea> urlin2u:can i insert live cd and bytheway iam not familar any more please tell me the steps if it is clear for you?
[08:33] <tomatto_> i installed seamonkey, and when i use mail of this suite, when i want tu reply or compose new mail, seamonkey is going to close...how it is possible?
[08:34] <biga> i get the speaker sound after pluggung in the headphones? Is there any solution to this issue?
[08:35] <biga> i am on 10.04
[08:37] <urlin2u> tewea, boot the cd and in the terminal run sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda2       note the sda2 is for another computer put your partition there instead
[08:38]  * Nuit g'morning
[08:38] <ionite> i d/l the chinese fonts but some songs are still in alien fonts while some are in proper chinese texts. how can i solve this?
[08:40] <tomatto_> i installed seamonkey, and when i use mail of this suite, when i want tu reply or compose new mail, seamonkey is going to close...how it is possible?
[08:40] <tewea> urlin2u:how can i know my partion weather it is sda2 sda1?
[08:41] <richtroye> tewea mount | grep sda
[08:43] <theadmin> ionite: Probably wrong encoding in tags, not much you can do
[08:43] <theadmin> lol @ "partition weather"
[08:44] <ionite> theadmin: what about chinese programs?
[08:44] <IdleOne> !ibus
[08:48] <urlin2u> tewea, on the live cd open gparted and note the partition number.
[08:49] <snn> okay fixed the random bugs/errors by creating a new user account and deleting the old one
[08:50] <snn> still getting an XKB error at login though
[08:52] <dvdr> on my android phone there is a neat app called "wifi anlayzer" which draws graphs of wireless signals and what channel they are on. Does anyone know of a good linux program that does the same thing? The ones I've looked at have been all geared towards managing connections and don't have such a good graphical display.
[08:53] <snn> any good vnc solutions guys?
[08:54] <snn> gonna use it to connect to my iphone and send sms'
[08:54] <snn> used to use tightvnc
[08:57] <tomatto_> i installed seamonkey, and when i use mail of this suite, when i want tu reply or compose new mail, seamonkey is going to close...how it is possible?
[08:57] <SoobNauce> Is it a bad idea to change the descriptor of a hard drive so I can remember which one I want to boot from and which one I'm using for mass storage/backups?
[08:58] <SoobNauce> specifically, I have something like SATA:PM-INTEL~~~ and PM WDC and one of those is the one I want to boot from
[08:58] <SoobNauce> a) is it even possible, b) is it a good idea at all
[08:59] <snn> (using tripleboot system for various reasons) is there a way to choose a default startup for grub 1.99???
[08:59] <snn> startup partition that is
[08:59] <wildbat> SoobNauce: you mean a volume label? do it in disk util.
[09:00] <wildbat> snn: you do it while doing grub install ~
[09:00] <SoobNauce> wildbat: Err, the thing that gparted is supposed to be an advanced version of (the name slips my mind)
[09:00] <wildbat> !grub | snn:
[09:01] <Hans01> Hi all! I need help: something is slowing down the startup process on my Lenovo Thinkpad. GDM seems to start with a huge delay (2 minutes?). How can I debug this? This is Natty 32 bit.
[09:01] <snn> wildbat: what i meant was that i have win 7 macosx and ubuntu installed and i dont want grub to wait 7-8 seconds until i choose ubuntu
[09:02] <snn> wildbat: so, can i reduce the delay on it?
[09:02] <Lostvoices> hi guys im having a blank here.. i have windows installed on my laptop and it is aparently corruped.. i have partitioned and running ubuntu now.. how can i access windows from within ubuntu to try to fix it
[09:02] <Lostvoices> i remember some sort of itual manager or something
[09:02] <wildbat> snn: change the timeout it is covered in the page
[09:03] <JohnTeddy> On my language support, I am using ibus-daemon. Though in my gnome-panel, the default language switcher is still liste.d IN addition to ibus-daemon. How can I get rid of the default ubuntu language switcher, so it doesn't show on the gnome-panel.
[09:03] <JohnTeddy> ?
[09:04] <JohnTeddy> nevermind, I just figured i tout.
[09:04] <Guest64555> Hi guys, this the Ubuntu talk or help channel?
[09:04] <JohnTeddy> I removed 'China' from the list on the default language switcher.
[09:04] <wildbat> Lostvoices: you can mount NTFS ~ copy files from or to in ~
[09:04] <JohnTeddy> Now only ibus is listed with the Chinese languages.
[09:05] <Guest64555> I've been having a problem with my ubuntu install. Is it common for the top of the screen to get corrupted? I'm on a Win7 AMD64 ATI Mobility 4K series card.
[09:05] <Guest64555> I'm a first time user too so I don't know much about it.
[09:06] <Guest64555> I take it this isn't the help channel? :P
[09:06] <razz1> how to copy a folder contents while excluding some of the sub-folders to a different location?
[09:06] <BLuEGoD> hi
[09:07] <llutz> razz1: rsync -ax --exclude=foo /path/tocopy/ /newpath/
[09:08] <BLuEGoD> I'm trying to build mysql server from sources, after getting it with apt-get source mysql-server, I've got the following error running configure: config.status: error: cannot find input file: Docs/Makefile.in... I'm using ubuntu  10.04.3.. googling this I havent found any solution
[09:10] <razz1> llutz: I was looking up man cp to see if it had an --exclude option. thanks. I should have thought of rsync
[09:12] <daxroc> Morning all
[09:12] <daxroc> What's the new ubuntu package management feature ?
[09:13] <daxroc> *where you can define roles and rebuild other servers on them ?
[09:14] <celltech> How do I completely remove every little spec of that annoying evolution mail system. I can't stand mail systems
[09:15] <Tophen> Hi guys. I need help deciding which distro would be best for me.
[09:15] <llutz> Tophen: not here, this is ubuntu-support
[09:16] <zvacet> Tophen: try on #linux chanal
[09:16] <wildbat> Tophen: if you ask here, we will respond ubuntu :>
[09:16] <Tophen> Alrighty. ok, thanks.
[09:16] <euphor][a> hi guys, looing to edit motd, guides tell me to edit /etc/motd.tail but that file doesn't exitst, do I just need to create it?
[09:16] <NameLess-exe> whats the difference between ext3 and ext4?
[09:16] <euphor][a> and can I do a motd.head insteasd?
[09:16] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: i guess the best way is to read the wikipedia articles on both systems
[09:16] <razz1> llutz: shouldn't rsync use -aX rather than -ax?
[09:16] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: should be easier then explaning it here
[09:17] <NameLess-exe> iceroot: ok...
[09:17] <cjs> NameLess-exe: ext4 has journalling. That means it keeps a log of what's happened, which it can replay to deal with errors should there be, e.g., a power cut. That's faster than the ext3 way of scanning the entire filesystem to see if anything looks broken.
[09:17] <Tophen> Haham alrighty :)
[09:17] <iceroot> cjs: ext3 has is also
[09:17] <wols> cjs: ext3 has journalling
[09:17] <gry> ...
[09:17] <cjs> iceroot: Does it? Oh, huh.
[09:17] <iceroot> cjs: ext2 doesnt have it
[09:17] <NameLess-exe> so creating a ext4 oartition is better than ext3?
[09:18] <nesusvet> hello everyone, I have ran into some issue, I tryed to use the 9.04 and 10.10 versions and got the same problem, when I am trying  to change the following parameters * soft nofile 8192
[09:18] <nesusvet> * hard nofile 8192 . After reboot they are not applied
[09:18] <wildbat> NameLess-exe: in general yes
[09:18] <NameLess-exe> why does this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html , say to use ext3?
[09:18] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: 8.04
[09:18] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: as the url says. when 8.04 came out there was no ext4
[09:18] <NameLess-exe> ahh
[09:18] <dhanesh> packages installing offline for my friends pc installed with ubuntu 11.04
[09:19] <llutz> razz1: depends on your setup/wishes.
[09:20] <NameLess-exe> do you think /home is necessary
[09:20] <celltech> synaptic is awesome to kill all crap you really don't need
[09:20] <celltech> bye bye evolution mail and everything that has to do with it
[09:21] <zvacet> NameLess-exe: it is not necessary but it is good to have one if you have enough free space
[09:21] <NameLess-exe> ok, how bug? 8gb?
 packages installing offline for my friends pc installed with ubuntu 11.04?
[09:21] <iceroot> !offline | dhanesh
[09:22] <celltech> I have no clue what your saying. And I have 11.04
[09:22] <nesusvet> * soft nofile 8192
[09:22] <nesusvet> * hard nofile 8192 вот эти параметры в limits.conf и после ребута ничего не происходит.
[09:22] <zvacet> NameLess-exe: for root ~10  swap ~2 and rest for home
[09:22] <iceroot> nesusvet: english please
[09:22] <NameLess-exe> zvacet: ok
[09:22] <nesusvet> sorry
[09:22] <wildbat> !ru | nesusvet
[09:22] <nesusvet> I mixed up the windows
[09:22] <nesusvet> I have described my issue
[09:23] <cjs> NameLess-exe: what, you mean as a separate partition? I generally don't do that. Having separate partitions makes management harder, and doesn't have much in the way of advantages over just using filesystem quotas if you're worried about users filling up the disk, as far as I can see.
[09:23] <NameLess-exe> cjs: yeah
[09:23] <CloudAche84> hello all
[09:24] <cjs> cjs: BTW, I used to use separate partitions a lot. /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.
[09:24] <cjs> s/cjs/NameLess-exe/
[09:24] <dhanesh> ubottu>is it easy ?
[09:25] <wildbat> ubottu: but you are smarter then me:>
[09:25] <gry> wildbat: yes, yes
[09:25] <tomatto_> how can i find out, why seamonkey mail is going to close, when i want compose or reply to incoming mail?
[09:25] <NameLess-exe> cjs: ?
[09:25] <NameLess-exe> zvacet: so more /home then /root?
[09:26] <dhanesh> NameLess-exe>packages installing offline for my friends pc installed with ubuntu 11.04
[09:26] <cjs> NameLess-exe: I aimed a comment for you at myself by accident.
[09:26] <NameLess-exe> :D
[09:26] <wildbat> tomatto_: sound more like a crash to me ~ try run it is terminal see if you catch any error msg
[09:27] <zvacet> NameLess-exe: yes,because on your home will be files(music,movies...for example),settings
[09:27] <NameLess-exe> whats /root? just system files?
[09:27] <graingert> !question | DOUGTHOMPSON
[09:28] <zvacet> !root partition
[09:28] <tomatto_> wildbat: this is seamonkey's output http://paste.pocoo.org/show/455172/
[09:28] <wildbat> NameLess-exe: home of root user.
[09:29] <gneral> hi
[09:29] <wildbat> tomatto_: yeah it crashed ~ but i can't help with that , try report a bug to seamonkey
[09:30] <NameLess-exe> zvacet: so lets say, 30 gb for /home and 8 for /root
[09:30] <tomatto_> its doing only in ubuntu
[09:30] <zvacet> NameLess-exe:yes and add some for swap
[09:31] <ikonia> NameLess-exe: /root should not be on it's own partition
[09:31] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: why not using the ubuntu-default?
[09:31] <wildbat> tomatto_: no idea ~ you can try force a reinstall,see if that help
[09:31] <NameLess-exe> what should it be?
[09:31] <NameLess-exe> default?
[09:31] <ikonia> NameLess-exe: it's just a directory off /
[09:31] <NameLess-exe> ok..
[09:31] <tomatto_> wildbat: how can i force reinstall?
[09:31] <gaelfx> when and how does ubuntu tell the router my machine's hostname?
[09:32] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: the default is only /  no extra /boot no extra /home
[09:32] <ikonia> gaelfx: through dhcpd normally
[09:32] <iceroot> NameLess-exe: ah and the defualt is also /swap
[09:32] <ikonia> swap does not have a mountpoint
[09:32] <iceroot> ikonia: but its a special partition
[09:32] <ikonia> yes, but it's not a mount point
[09:32] <gaelfx> ikonia: does that execute on startup?
[09:33] <ikonia> gaelfx: yes
[09:33] <wildbat> tomatto_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall seamonkey
[09:34] <gaelfx> ikonia: is there a way to make my machine resend that information to the router?
[09:34] <ikonia> gaelfx: dhcp polls every 15 minutes (I think)
[09:35] <Dud3ski666> will an old desktop box running ubuntu server be good enough for a low traffic site??
[09:36] <MikeChelen> Dud3ski666: what are the specs, and what kind of site?
[09:36] <llutz> gaelfx: dhclient.conf  should have a line "send host-name "foo.example.com"  to do that
[09:37] <llutz> gaelfx: but there are routers ignoring that info
[09:37] <Dud3ski666> sony vgc-ra820g
[09:37] <MikeChelen> Dud3ski666: check what the cpu speed and memory size are
[09:37] <wols> llutz: that's no hostname either
[09:37] <Dud3ski666> 3.2 ghz, 1gb+swap
[09:37] <MikeChelen> ubuntu server will probably run on anything >128mb though 256 or 512 would be best
[09:37] <gaelfx> llutz: I don't suppose you have a line on how to figure out if my router is ignoring that info?
[09:38] <wols> gaelfx: only use a hostname, not a fqdn
[09:38] <llutz> wols?
[09:38] <MikeChelen> Dud3ski666: sounds find, depending what web server software is being used. probably the biggest limit will be your internet connection
[09:38] <wols> llutz: foo is a hostname. foo.example.com is not
[09:38] <llutz> wols: ah right
[09:38] <llutz> send host-name   takes a fqdn
[09:38] <Dud3ski666> yeah. how does one go about raising their upload limit>
[09:39] <clubk1d> how can I execute a gui installer on command line?
[09:39] <Tophen> Ok, is that guy still here?
[09:39] <urlin2u> clubk1d, what is the gui?
[09:39] <MikeChelen> Dud3ski666: have to talk with your isp
[09:39] <Tophen> Or anyone?
[09:40] <clubk1d> like this one
[09:40] <clubk1d> root@ubuntu:/opt/installers# java -jar cdf-samples-1.0.4-installer.jar
[09:40] <Tophen> I need to know which FS would be best for me.
[09:40] <clubk1d> java.awt.HeadlessException:
[09:40] <clubk1d> No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it.
[09:40] <urlin2u> Tophen, feel free to ask your question. ;)
[09:40] <Tophen> Ok :)
[09:40] <MikeChelen> Dud3ski666: check what the upload rate is now and see if it is high enough
[09:40] <clubk1d> is there any way i can install it without installing x11 ?
[09:40] <Tophen> I'm a gamer. I'm installing ubuntu.
[09:40] <Tophen> Which FS do you recommend?
[09:40] <MikeChelen> FS?
[09:40] <clubk1d> urlin2u, maybe through browser?
[09:40] <Tophen> I need to (if possible) be able to play like steam games.
[09:41] <Dud3ski666> ext4 totally.
[09:41] <ioriveur> ext4, isn't?
[09:41] <urlin2u> clubk1d, not sure to be honets.
[09:41] <urlin2u> honest
[09:41] <MikeChelen> oh filesystem, the default should be fine
[09:41] <Tophen> Ok.
[09:41] <Tophen> Thanks much guys :)
[09:41] <gaelfx> wols: how can I make Ubuntu not send an fqdn?
[09:41] <Dud3ski666> also why are you installing linux if youre counting gaming?
[09:41] <MikeChelen> there are tons of games for ubuntu
[09:41] <MikeChelen> for help with wine check out #wine
[09:41] <Tophen> Well.. I'm on a MacBook that was given to us at our school.
[09:42] <Dud3ski666> wine works okay.
[09:42] <Tophen> THey've got all these blocks and stuff.
[09:42] <MikeChelen> actually it is #winehq
[09:42] <Tophen> So I'm installing Linux.
[09:42] <Tophen> Ok, so EXT4.
[09:42] <MikeChelen> you can also try virtualbox to run windows inside linux
[09:42] <Dud3ski666> or the other way around
[09:42] <Tophen> I tried.
[09:42] <Tophen> It needs admin.
[09:43] <wols> gaelfx: why do you think you are sending one?
[09:43] <Tophen> oh wait
[09:43] <Tophen> Windows inside linux...
[09:43] <MikeChelen> Tophen: i mean after installing ubuntu
[09:43] <Tophen> Hmm..
[09:43] <MikeChelen> yup
[09:43] <gaelfx> wols: well, previously the hostname worked, but now it doesn't
[09:43] <MikeChelen> because vbox now supports 3d accel
[09:43] <Tophen> I think I'll just stick with tis for now.
[09:43] <Tophen> But will I be able to play steam games?
[09:43] <MikeChelen> wine is faster if it works for the games you want
[09:43] <Tophen> If i get Play on Linux and wine?
[09:43] <MikeChelen> it depends on the game
[09:43] <Tophen> TF2? Gmod?
[09:44] <MikeChelen> yeah i think tf2 works fine
[09:44] <MikeChelen> all games based on hl2 engine
[09:44] <Tophen> Okay! Sweet!
[09:44] <Tophen> Thanks alot!
[09:44] <MikeChelen> Tophen: check out http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:45] <wols> gaelfx: that's not answering my question
[09:45] <Tophen> Thanks.
[09:45] <MikeChelen> they list the working status for most games and include tips for better compatibility and performance
[09:45] <Tophen> Also, my ubuntu is all wierd?
[09:45] <Tophen> i Just got it off the cd
[09:45] <Tophen> and like, the mouse keeps jumping
[09:46] <Tophen> and letters are typed :(
[09:46] <MikeChelen> what version ubuntu, and did you install yet or just boot from livecd?
[09:46] <Tophen> LIVECD
[09:46] <Tophen> about to install
[09:46] <Tophen> and ubuntu 10.10
[09:46] <MikeChelen> on a macbook right?
[09:46] <Tophen> yeah
[09:46] <MikeChelen> might want to try alternate install cd
[09:46] <MikeChelen> why not 11.04?
[09:46] <Tophen> oh.
[09:46] <MikeChelen> what model macbook?
[09:46] <Tophen> I dunno. It just came with my bro's magazine
[09:46] <Tophen> Should I get that instead?
[09:47] <Tophen> Umm
[09:47] <Tophen> i forgot haha
[09:47] <FloodBot1> Tophen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <Tophen> the white regular one.
[09:47] <MikeChelen> usually nice to get the latest version if you can
[09:47] <MikeChelen> lol idk anything about macbooks
[09:47] <Tophen> Awkies.
[09:47] <gaelfx> wols: I'm just trying to figure out why I can't use my machine's hostname to access my machine on my network
[09:47] <Tophen> Haha ok. If I want to download then how do I install it to an external hd?
[09:47] <MikeChelen> might want to see if there are any ubuntu tips for macbook installs
[09:47] <Tophen> Thanks.
[09:47] <MikeChelen> Tophen: can you download the latest version and burn it to cd?
[09:48] <gaelfx> wols: I always have to use th IP, and since I want to show my wife how to use it, I would rather she be able to use the hostnmae
[09:48] <gry> Tophen: Yes, you should install the latest version. It would install self on a disk space which you like, if it's accessible to the live cd.
[09:48] <Tophen> Could I just put it on an ext hd instead?
[09:48] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: you could put it in the /etc/hosts file
[09:48] <gry> Tophen: Not you, it would put itself there during install. *You* only put it to a CD.
[09:48] <Tophen> Gahh confusing.
[09:49] <MikeChelen> Tophen: do you have a usb flash drive?
[09:49] <Tophen> So I would downlaod it as a?
[09:49] <MikeChelen> instead of external hd
[09:49] <NameLess-exe> should i have the /swap before or after another partion for another os?
[09:49] <Tophen> I do.
[09:49] <MikeChelen> Tophen: the usual download is a cd image to burn
[09:49] <gry> Tophen: Download a .iso, burn it to a cd.
[09:49] <Tophen> Which I would then boot up I assume?
[09:49] <gry> !install
[09:49] <gry> yes.
[09:50] <Tophen> Ok :)
[09:50] <auronandace> NameLess-exe: doesn't matter where swap is
[09:50] <avinashhm> Hi , is there any way in which i can make the 'terminator' as the default terminal .. today gnome terminal is the default one .. i want to change it to terminator
[09:50] <MikeChelen> Tophen: you can also put the iso on a usb flash drive and boot from that
[09:50] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: the problem is I could SSH or remote in using the hostname a couple weeks ago, but now I can't do it and I don't know why
[09:50] <Tophen> I think I'll get the gamer edition of ubuntu
[09:50] <Tophen> ok i'll try
[09:50] <NameLess-exe> auronandace: i know, i ahve OCD with computers :D
[09:50] <zvacet> Tophen: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[09:50] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: hmm that is weird
[09:50] <Tophen> not pro...
[09:51] <Tophen> Argh! My macbook is all jittery
[09:51] <Tophen> Be back in a few
[09:51] <gry> avinashhm: http://superuser.com/questions/53739/how-to-change-the-default-terminal-to-rxvt-in-ubuntu#53741 should give an idea.
[09:51] <Tophen> See you guys in a sec
[09:51] <zvacet> Tophen:  see http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[09:51] <Tophen> You can kick me if you need to until i get back
[09:51] <Tophen> brb
[09:52] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: I'm pretty sure my router is getting it because it shows up on the clients list, but for some reason it doesn't seem to be able to actually connect to it using that name
[09:54] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: any idea how it was resolving hostnames before? WINS?
[09:54] <bullgard4_> [Natty] Logging in on my virtual console: "There is 1 zombie process." Do I have to care?
[09:55] <Tophen> ok im ack
[09:55] <Tophen> back*
[09:55] <MikeChelen> Tophen: it might help to figure out what model macbook
[09:55] <Tophen> ok ill try
[09:56] <avinashhm> gry, thanks .. it worked
[09:56] <MikeChelen> this page might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook1-1/UbuntuVersion
[09:56] <gry> avinashhm: You're very welcome!
[09:56] <MikeChelen> bullgard4_: only if you care about the particular process or if it is hogging resources
[09:57] <bullgard4_> How can I care about something that I do not know?
[09:58] <gry> bullgard4_: "ps aux | grep Z" <-- the ones with Z in "STAT" column are zombie.
[09:58] <wsagent> can somebody help me out to lock the work station with a shortcut key
[09:59] <gry> wsagent: CTRL+ALT+L?
[09:59] <wsagent> gry: thanks a lot
[09:59] <gry> You're welcome!
[09:59] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: no idea, sorry
[10:00] <Tophen> I guess it's the 7,1
[10:00] <Tophen> Mike?
[10:01] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: it might help to check what ubuntu uses by default to resolve those hostnames
[10:02] <JellyManz> Hello. Would the LTS versions of Ubuntu provide a better "no fuss" and "just does the job" situation for replacing XP ? IE: Install it and don't have to worry about upgrading , so on so on for so long?
[10:02] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: well, I'm connecting from Windows7 machines
[10:03] <gry> JellyManz: Yes.
[10:03] <MikeChelen> Tophen: it looks like getting the latest version ubuntu might help
[10:04] <JellyManz> gry: Would I be missing out with anything special in running the lower version ?
[10:04] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: is smb file sharing enabled on the ubuntu system?
[10:04] <bullgard4_> gry: It says that the [zeitgeist-data] process is defunct. --  Do I have to care?
[10:04] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: not that I'm aware of
[10:04] <Tophen> Ok. So what. I would download it as a _____ file and put it onto a USB (need to be empty?). Then I would stick it into the computer and boot from it. Then I would get an install option already available?
[10:04] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: what are you using to connect from windows?
[10:05] <ksinkar> mcloud: hello
[10:05] <gry> bullgard4_: If it's not using a large chunk of cpu or ram, then no.
[10:05] <MikeChelen> Tophen: yeah there is a .iso to download, you might need a particular program to burn it to USB, which will erase the entire stick
[10:05] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: usually putty or UltraVNC, but occasionally I use the browser to connect to Transmission's web client
[10:06] <Tophen> Fair enough. How much space will the newest distro take up?
[10:06] <MikeChelen> gaelfx: ok so what is windows using to resolve that hostname?
[10:06] <MikeChelen> Tophen: on the usb stick or after installation?
[10:06] <gaelfx> MikeChelen: that I'm not sure of
[10:07] <Tophen> On the stick.
[10:07] <bzinger> hi, i tried to add a user on ubuntu, using "useradd foo", but forgot to add home directory, how do i add home directory for it?
[10:08] <bullgard4_> gry: It is not using a large percentage of CPU time or RAM. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[10:08] <tonvin> adduser foo
[10:08] <gry> bullgard4_: Sure.
[10:08] <llutz> bzinger: usermod -m -d /newhome ....      (man usermod)
[10:08] <MikeChelen> Tophen: same as cd, about 700mb
[10:08] <wols> bzinger: did you try the adduser -m option?
[10:08] <MikeChelen> Tophen: use this to make bootable usb: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/
[10:09] <Tophen> Ok... And on these school macbooks... it just booted up since I had the CD in.
[10:09] <philipballew> hey when i installed a ppc cli system i installed from my wireless interface and now i want to set up my eth0 interface
[10:09] <Tophen> WIll it also work with the usb?
[10:09] <Tophen> and Tanks.
[10:09] <Tophen> Thanks*.
[10:09] <bzinger> wols: i tried adduser -m , but doesn't work
[10:09] <lisenok> Hello! Help please. Ndiswrapper wifi driver loaded, but no interface.
[10:10] <wols> bzinger: you can create it manually (editing /etc/passwd and mkdir /home/foo) but that's a bit dangerous
[10:10] <MikeChelen> Tophen: does the system support booting from usb? for example from external hd
[10:10] <wols> lisenok: for what wlan chip?
[10:10] <Tophen> I'm not sure.
[10:10] <Tophen> We don't have control over the boots.
[10:10] <MikeChelen> Tophen: are there boot options in the bios?
[10:10] <Tophen> I just had the cd in and it appeared!
[10:10] <lisenok> wols, BCM4318
[10:10] <bzinger> wols: so what's the safer way to do it
[10:10] <Tophen> No. We can't access that.
[10:11] <bzinger> llutz: i tried usermod -m -d /home/foo, but it return usermod: no changes
[10:11] <MikeChelen> well you can try from usb and if that does not work you will have to burn a cd
[10:11] <Tophen> Ookey.
[10:11] <lisenok> i did this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:11] <MikeChelen> Tophen: if you can complete the install with the current cd then it can be upgraded later
[10:11] <Tophen> Ok, I might just do that.
[10:11] <lisenok> no errors in dmesg
[10:12] <lisenok> but no wlan0
[10:12] <MikeChelen> Tophen: might try pluggin in an external usb keyboard or mouse if those devices are being problematic
[10:12] <bzinger> wtf, is with "useradd" and "adduser"
[10:12] <wols> bzinger: I don't know of any
[10:12] <MikeChelen> bzinger: check man pages
[10:12] <Tophen> So if I want to dedicate my 500gb external hard drive to linux.
[10:12] <llutz> bzinger: adduser is a script around useradd, easier to use
[10:12] <Tophen> I'd select install to on the desktop. THen select it.
[10:13] <wols> lisenok: supported in linux since 2.6.24 so it is supported by ubuntu just fine. no ndiswrapper needed. proprietary firmware required like for all broadcom garbage
[10:13] <bzinger> llutz: its a bit confusing though
[10:13] <MikeChelen> Tophen: yeah as long as it comes up in the disk install options that sounds good
[10:14] <fudu> i
[10:14] <lisenok> wols, no is not. this chip not doen't work
[10:14] <Tophen> Ok... awesome.
[10:14] <lisenok> permanent DISABLED status
[10:14] <fudu> i'm trying to get myhttp://snapscan.sourceforge.net/#work acer s2w 4300u scanner to work i found this page http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/#work which has drivers for it, but the commands don't work
[10:15] <fudu> i get the command not found thing. i tried installing sane but get the same error
[10:15] <Tophen> So, first, I'll format my EHD. Then I'll install this version of Ubuntu on it. Then I should be done?
[10:15] <wols> lisenok: just because you cannot get it to work, doesn't mean it doesn't work at all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20b43%20drivers   note the supported chips there
[10:15] <wols> lisenok: I suggest you investigate rfkill
[10:15] <Tophen> (Format to the default linux fs)
[10:16] <fudu> using ubuntu 11.04
[10:16] <MikeChelen> Tophen: yah the default fs should be ok
[10:16] <bzinger> how do i make "su foo" from root to enter a password? or i can't (because root is god;-)
[10:16] <Tophen> Ok. Ill do this now.
[10:16] <wols> !errors | fudu
[10:17] <lisenok> wols, http://paste.ubuntu.com/661785/
[10:17] <lisenok> this is w/o ndis
[10:17] <lisenok> always DISABLED
[10:18] <fudu> on that page tools/find-scanner  bash: tools/find-scanner: No such file or directory
[10:18] <fudu> the page is http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/#work
[10:18] <wols> lisenok: iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:18] <Tophen> The device is busy?
[10:18] <fudu> i installed sane and simplescan can't connect to the  scanner
[10:19] <lisenok> wols, now i have load ndis mod
[10:19] <gry> fudu: usb scanner?
[10:19] <fudu> yes
[10:19] <quatar[it]-2> hello all. I have a huge problem. Last time i succesfully used my sony vaio VGN-NR31S/S laptop with ubuntu 11.04, it became irresponsive on the sceensaver screen. It wasn't doing anything administrative, only surfing the web. I had to stop the alimentation. Now if i turn it on, it doesn't turn on the screen (nor the built in neither an external one). It does some standard booting noise, led switching etc... but t
[10:19] <wols> fudu: have you installed the sane packages?
[10:19] <quatar[it]-2> he screen is off. For 15 seconds pressing "caps" make the "caps" led switch on/off. After that, it doesn't. If i switch the pc on with an ubuntu 10.10 live cd, the screen remain off, but "caps" light can be switched forever. I want to access my data, please help me!
[10:19] <gry> fudu: Is it in `lsusb`?
[10:19] <fudu> i installed sane
[10:19] <fudu> Bus 005 Device 004: ID 04a5:20de Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 4300U+
[10:19] <wols> fudu: then run find-scanner
[10:20] <fudu> find-scanner: command not found
[10:20] <lisenok> wols, yesterday wifi has working until reboot with ndiswrapper driver!
[10:20] <fudu> sane is already the newest version.
[10:20] <fudu> when i apt get it
[10:21] <lisenok> but after reboot I can't load it again
[10:21] <wols> lisenok: I told you that ndiswrapper is the wrong one for you, you don't want to listen, so I don't care about your problem. good luck
[10:22] <wols> fudu: then you will need to get the latest CVS version of SANE as the sf.net page tells you
[10:22] <Tophen> back in a few
[10:22] <lisenok> wols, i can remove core driver from blacklist and reboot.
[10:22] <gry> well. that fudu's issue is odd.
[10:25] <wols> fudu: if you plug your scanner in, what does dmesg say?
[10:26] <fudu> Aug  9 18:26:15 ubuntu kernel: [ 2982.820063] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[10:27] <fudu> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 04a5:20de Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 4300U+
[10:27] <tmus> Will wayland make it into Oneiric?
[10:27] <fudu> lsusb
[10:27] <wols> fudu: the one line above is all?
[10:28] <fudu> yes
[10:28] <fudu> it has the scanner name in the webpage i linked too, so i know its possible :(
[10:29] <wols> fudu: run "sane-find-scanner"
[10:29] <fudu> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a5 [Color], product=0x20de [ FlatbedScanner 13]) at libusb:005:005
[10:31] <fudu> simplescan says it cannot connect when i try to use it
[10:32] <wols> fudu: so I guess the SANE shipping with ubuntu doesn't support this scanner yet. follow the sf.net webpage then. but read it all this time. not just the stuff starting with 1.
[10:32] <carl-eric> hi - I'm trying to get X forwarding to work on a remote natty server, but $DISPLAY never gets set. The ssh command I'm using is ssh -X -p <port> <hostname>. Even with -vvvv I couldn't see any kind of debug log that would tell me what's going wrong. Any ideas?
[10:32] <wsagent> is there any wifi radar app for ubuntu
[10:33] <wols> wsagent: kismet
[10:33] <fudu> it is listed on this page though http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/#supported
[10:33] <fudu> under 4300u
[10:34] <wols> fudu: and your point is?
[10:36] <wsagent> thanks wols:
[10:37] <lisenok> wols, done
[10:37] <lisenok> $ iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:37] <lisenok> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[10:38] <ndxtg> I have kernel 2.6.35-30, there are some bugs so I'd like to update to 2.3.38 but it isnt available in ubuntu 10.10 repo. does anyone know how to>
[10:39] <ndxtg> *2.6.38
[10:39] <sudokill> ndxtg- i think you need tp upgrade ubuntu
[10:39] <sudokill> to 11.04
[10:40] <ndxtg> sudokill: any other way? I installed 11.04 but didnt like it so went back to 10.10 (11.04 doesnt work with compiz and stuffs)
[10:40] <sudokill> you can do it from source, or maybe use the 11.04 kernel from a deb file but i dont think either of them are recommended
[10:41] <sudokill> ie you wont get the sec updates youd have to maintin it yourself
[10:43] <ndxtg> sudokill: ok thank you, gonna build and install it now
[10:43] <wsagent> wol: i installed kismet from software centre but cannot fund the shotcut... How to find the shortcut ?
[10:43] <sudokill> i think ubuntus kernel is heavily patched (not 100% sure) but i wouldnt..
[10:44] <DuncanT> Hi. Anybbody know much about packaging up python projects for ubuntu? I've got foo.aaa.*, foo.bbb.* and foo.ccc.* that for various reasons I want to be in 3 separate .debs. I'm having a hard time splitting it out into 3 .debs and getting them to behave regarding uninstall / upgrade - they all want to 'own' foo. Any hints and tips?
[10:44] <PukaPoncho> How can I force video resolutions for a second device on xrandr?
[10:45] <quatar[it]-2> [repost because i accidentally disconnected] hello all, I have a huge problem. The last time I succesfully used my sony vaio VGN-NR31S/S laptop with ubuntu 11.04 i386, it became unresponsive on the sceensaver screen. It wasn't doing anything administrative, only surfing the web. I had to stop the alimentation. Now if i turn it on, it doesn't turn on the screen (neither the built in, nor an external one). It is no
[10:45] <quatar[it]-2> t blank, it's simply out (no backlighting). It does some standard booting noise, led switching etc... but the screen is off. To test weather it's working somehow, I press "caps lock", which makes the "caps" led switch on/off. After 15 seconds, it doesn't do that anymore. If i switch on the pc with an ubuntu 10.10 live cd, the screen remain off, but "caps" light can be switched forever. [I also posted on the forum
[10:45] <quatar[it]-2> , i hope it's not denied to ask both]
[10:45] <FloodBot1> quatar[it]-2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <snn> is alt+f4 disabled in natty?
[10:46] <snn> i seem to be able to use ctrl+q tough
[10:46] <gry> snn: it's not.
[10:47] <snn> gry: i cant use it though
[10:47] <PukaPoncho> Also, how do I force an undetected external device?
[10:47] <gry> snn: Try to use it in another application.
[10:48] <snn> tried it on many, looked on the keyboard shortcuts aswell, doesnt work. No biggie i like ctrl q just aswell, are there any differences between the two?
[10:48] <PukaPoncho> Xrandr doesn't seem to detect RCA connections or correctly supply TV rsolutions
[10:48] <glebihan> snn, maybe you changed the action associated with Alt+F4 or enabled a compiz plugin that changed it
[10:48] <snn> glebihan: i checked keyboard shortcuts but maybe compiz has done smth. ill look into that
[10:49] <glebihan> snn, Alt+F4 is a system shortcut, whereas Ctrl+Q only works in applications which implemented it
[10:49] <snn> glebihan: thing is ctrl+Q has taken over globally
[10:50] <glebihan> snn, then it must be either keyboard shortcuts or compiz
[10:51] <snn> glebihan: not k-s and im looking at compiz but cant find the appropriate menu.
[10:51] <kadir> Hi! My problem is about sshfs and svnserve. I want to put my svn repository on a server that has RAID. (I do not have any privileges on this server. sshd on this server does not allow public key authentication even.)  I mount the server to my machine using sshfs ( sshfs -o password_stdin -o allow_other aUser@serverWithRAID:/home/aUser /mnt/server < /root/pswdServerWithRAID ) My svn server runs on my machine. ( svnserve -r /mnt/server/s
[10:52] <snn> oooooohhh i got my function keys to work with fn =D
[10:52] <snn> lol
[10:52] <snn> glebihan : the problem is between the keyboard and chair apparently =D
[10:52] <glebihan> snn, :)
[10:54] <Opponent> siemka
[10:54] <Opponent> siemano polska
[10:54] <Opponent> Jest ktoś z Polski?
[10:54] <OerHeks> !pl | Opponent
[10:55] <snn> lol ubottu speaking polish ^_^
[10:55] <Opponent> spox
[10:55] <b0ot> Anyone know why I wasn't able to ping a multicast address (Got Network is unreachable) until I added a specific route for each multicast address to my eth0 dev?
[10:55] <b0ot> And how I might fix it other than adding specific routes for each multicast address
[10:56] <Opponent> whats up
[10:56] <lisenok> wols, THANK YOU VERY MUTCH!!!!!
[10:57] <wols> huh?
[10:57] <lisenok> yes
[10:57] <Opponent> Why do I need to speak nigger?
[10:57] <wols> Opponent: better behave
[10:59] <snn> opponent im black and i find that offensive
[10:59] <Opponent> Im Sorry
[10:59] <lapion> #mythtv-users
[11:00] <KNUBBIG> Hey, Is it safe to install the free gpu drivers instead of the proprietary ones? And how is the performance? Thanks
[11:00] <Opponent> I do not know English
[11:00] <Opponent> I use google translate
[11:00] <wols> KNUBBIG: why would it be unsafe?
[11:01] <KNUBBIG> wols: because it might destroy my Ubuntu, I'm somewhat suspicious when it comes to replacing drivers :)
[11:01] <hackerqi> Opponent:hello
[11:03] <sudokill> KNUBBIG- you dont need to install the free ones
[11:05] <KNUBBIG> sudokill: I know, but I can't seem to get gnome-shell running without graphical glitches with the proprietary drivers, so I just want to see how it works with the free ones :)
[11:05] <sudokill> KNUBBIG- have you tried in the fallback mode?
[11:05] <sudokill> or classic whatever its called
[11:05] <KNUBBIG> sudokill: yes
[11:06] <VxQf> Anyone know of an nzb downloader with a web frontend?
[11:06] <VxQf> Or a webfrontend to hellanzb?
[11:07] <DuncanT> KNUBBIG: What card? I've got a similar problem here
[11:07] <KNUBBIG> DuncanT: ATI Radeon 3650 Mobile
[11:07] <DuncanT> Ah, NVIDIA here
[11:07] <D-F3NS> best choice ;)
[11:08] <o0o0> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[11:08] <PhoenixSTF> AMD E-350
[11:08] <KNUBBIG> tbh, I'll never buy a AMD graphics card again ... only problems :>
[11:09] <PhoenixSTF> KNUBBIG, that aint entirely true
[11:09] <PukaPoncho> Can anybody here explain xrandr?
[11:09] <KNUBBIG> PhoenixSTF: okay, that might be right :) But for me it's entirely true ;-)
[11:09] <PukaPoncho> It really is a stubborn program
[11:09] <Ramses> Ramses is here for you pleasure
[11:09] <DuncanT> Historically I've had far more problems with Nvidia than ATI
[11:10] <PukaPoncho> I hate it when computers make decisions I can't reverse
[11:10] <KNUBBIG> Grr where was the button to activate fallback graphics, again?
[11:10] <PhoenixSTF> KNUBBIG, you have a realy old model, sure it has its issues, but witch video old card hasent?? i have a  laptop with a nvidia 420 go, and its only problems
[11:10] <ChristopherNG> Hello im trying to output via HDMI to my television using nvidia settings, i keep getting a message saying i dont appear to be using driver X?
[11:10] <sudokill> KNUBBIG- go to the gpu driver gui screen and uninstall the pro one
[11:11] <PhoenixSTF> KNUBBIG, on this laptop i have a AMD E-350 with radeon6310
[11:11] <PhoenixSTF> KNUBBIG, and is fantastic
[11:11] <wols> KNUBBIG: radeon works fine for you and will be plenty fast for unity
[11:11] <KNUBBIG> PhoenixSTF: yes, I know, I didn't only mean my old graphics card in my laptop, I also had an X18000XT which never worked fine for me
[11:11] <KNUBBIG> Uh, like entering a bee's nest :D
[11:11] <KNUBBIG> sudokill: thanks
[11:11] <D-F3NS> ChristopherNG, You have to use the nvidia drivers.then it should work. Remember "seperate" wont work proplery anymore, use twinview...
[11:12] <ubuntu> hello people
[11:12] <KNUBBIG> so I'll try, brb
[11:12] <luisgrin> hi, i have installed ubuntu server and lamp, now i want to admin mysql from my windows xp using sqlyog, the problem is that i cant reach the server in ubuntu, i tryied sudo ufw delete deny 3306 and sudo ufw enable then i open the access to root from % in mysql table user
[11:12] <Neo31> hello, I am using Ubuntu Install DVD. but it doesn't seem to offer anything special for the installation steps. does it? because I wanted to select what GUI to install and what packages... ?
[11:12] <ChristopherNG> D-F3NS: how do i "use" the correct Nvidia drivers? Nvidia itself does not support linux.
[11:12] <sudokill> Neo31- i think the minimal might do that
[11:12] <sudokill> never tried it though
[11:12] <D-F3NS> ChristopherNG, which ubuntu version?
[11:13] <Neo31> 11.10
[11:13] <PhoenixSTF> KNUBBIG, take it easy m8, nothing is easy until you know how to do it. there are things far worse regarding linux
[11:13] <Neo31> downloaded from ubuntu.com
[11:13] <denki> kernel 3.0
[11:13] <ChristopherNG> D-F3NS: 10.04 on this machine
[11:13] <sudokill> Neo31- plain ubuntu has unity and gnome
[11:13] <sudokill> you cant change it with the default dvd / cd
[11:13] <ChristopherNG> D-F3NS: These drivers are driving me insane, they seem to be all over the place.
[11:13] <sudokill> Neo31- there are other ones like xubuntu etc
[11:14] <Neo31> what abt packages> can't I select what packages to install with Ubuntu DVD ?
[11:14] <Neo31> during the installation
[11:14] <sudokill> no
[11:14] <Neo31> huhh
[11:14] <sudokill> its supposed to be that way
[11:14] <Neo31> this is an imprtant feature that must be added
[11:14] <sudokill> why
[11:14] <Ramses> if something unexpected is occurring in your ubuntu installation, please, contact me
[11:14] <D-F3NS> ChristopherNG, im using another located version. guess it should be named like "alternative drivers" When u try to enable the wbobly windows, it will ask you to install the nvidia driver automaticly
[11:14] <sudokill> Neo31- maybe youd prefer another distro
[11:15] <Neo31> because I dont want a mess removeing and installing software when i'm done with the installation. otherwise DVD or CD wont make a big difference
[11:15] <Neo31> I like ubuntu sudokill
[11:16] <sudokill> Neo31- not sure what the minimal cd does exactly but sounds like whta your after
[11:16] <Neo31> that is the only missing feature maybe
[11:16] <yuka> guys , how do you enable visual effects, if they dont show as a tab in system \ preferences \ appearance ?
[11:16] <sudokill> Neo31- its suppsoed to be easy to install etc
[11:16] <Neo31> I don't see the point of disabling that feature
[11:16] <Neo31> adding a little or a hidding option will not make it harder
[11:16] <wols> Neo31: it does. people are actually confused by too many choices :(
[11:16] <sudokill> Neo31- i think youll find it a whole lot of   work, installling ubuntu and then trying to make your way through uninstalling most of the packages
[11:17] <Neo31> and ppl who want advanced installation will just have it
[11:17] <sudokill> hence the reason people use other distros
[11:17] <Neo31> wols a little advanced option the the first choice menu will not confuse ppl. most will go with default option
[11:17] <Neo31> ppl who want confusion will get it
[11:18] <|OLLIE|> Neo31: You'll be wanting to look into installation preseeding.
[11:18] <|OLLIE|> automating the installation
[11:18] <luisgrin> hi, i need to open the connection to my ubuntu server 8 mysql from the lan, but i cant, i tryed with ufw
[11:18] <Neo31> didn't get it |OLLIE| what did you mean?
[11:19] <wols> luisgrin: by default mysql only listens on localhost
[11:19] <|OLLIE|> google, preseed.. its a way of automating the installation of ubuntu. Including automatic package installation
[11:19] <b0ot> wols, do you know much about multicast
[11:19] <|OLLIE|> you wanted a way, i gave you a way. You didn't seem to worry about if it is advanced
[11:19] <Mu1z> wireless driver issues with my Hp pavilion dv2000
[11:19] <luisgrin> wols ok, howto change it[?
[11:20] <Neo31> ok thank you |OLLIE|
[11:20] <csarven> When I run a script from command line, how can I find out which directory that script is located in?
[11:20] <SubNormal> can any one tell me how to fix this "nullmailer[16996]: smtp: Failed: Connect failed" it just keeps cluttering up
[11:20] <sudokill> csarven- running with ./?
[11:20] <sudokill> if so, current dir
[11:20] <llutz> csarven: "which <scriptname>"
[11:20] <sudokill> or do you mean a command? like top?
[11:21] <csarven> llutz Thanks that's it.
[11:21] <csarven> sudokill Thanks.
[11:21] <wols> luisgrin: my.cnf IIRC
[11:21] <luisgrin> ok wols
[11:21] <wols> csarven: that won't really work
[11:21] <wols> llutz: ^^
[11:22] <Neo31> thanks for help :)
[11:22] <sudokill> csarven- do find / -name
[11:22] <sudokill> to find most stuff
[11:22] <llutz> wols: it will, ""<csarven> When I run a script from command line, ..."  so i asume its inside PATH
[11:23] <csarven> I've tried find before. Didn't quite work out. I probably didn't do it right.
[11:23] <wols> llutz: it still won't. e.g. you can have two scripts of the same name in different directories of your path for example
[11:23] <csarven> Well, here is the thing. I'm trying to update a script. I compile and stuff but I still see it using the old version some reason.
[11:24] <llutz> wols: it'll find the 1st one, which also will be the one being called when issuing the script from commandline
[11:24] <csarven> I'm thinking that I've used a different bin path in the past.
[11:24] <csarven> llutz wols I assume it is in path too as I can run it from anywhere.
[11:24] <wols> llutz: then running a script which is not in path. e.g. ./script
[11:24] <csarven> Perhaps I just ned to track that down
[11:25] <llutz> wols: that was not the question
[11:25] <wols> or with explicit path
[11:25] <wols> llutz: "that script is located in". it is very well in the question. not "any script". didn't specify how it was called either
[11:25] <alami> is webmin support by ubuntu or not?
[11:25] <wols> !webmin
[11:26] <luisgrin> wols i see nothing about the lan in my.cnf .. may i paste it 4u?
[11:27] <tomatto_> there is seamonkey mail 2.2 ? i updated system, but is there only 2.0.13
[11:27] <glebihan> tomatto_, usually the latest version of softwares aren't available in the ubuntu repositories
[11:28] <csarven> llytz I think 'which' was the case.
[11:28] <ubu1> hoi
[11:28] <wols> luisgrin: there is under [mysqld]
[11:28] <glebihan> tomatto_, this aims at more stability, is you really need the latest version then you have to install it manually
[11:28] <tomatto_> glebihan: how can i reinstall seamonkey from 2.0.13 to 2.0.11 ?
[11:28] <luisgrin> wols ok
[11:29] <sudokill> or find a repo
[11:29] <glebihan> tomatto_, oh you want to downgrade ? why ?
[11:29] <csarven> llutz When I remove the script from that location and run the script again, it tell sme that it can't find that file at that location.
[11:29] <csarven> How can I remove that path?
[11:30] <tomatto_> glebihan: because newest version is not available in repositories, as you said and this actual version is failed every when i want to compose or reply to mail
[11:30] <usr13> tomatto_:  http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
[11:31] <tomatto_> usr13: i want to install it via apt-get installl...ehm... repository
[11:32] <usr13> tomatto_: You want 2.0.11  instead of  2.0.13 ?
[11:32] <glebihan> tomatto_, well only the 2.0.13 version seem to be available is the repositories (at least in natty), so to get back to version 2.0.11, you would have to uninstall your current version and manually install the 2.0.11
[11:32] <KNUBBIG> PhoenixSTF: that's right :-)
[11:32] <b0ot> Does anyone know how to enable Multicast on ubuntu?
[11:32] <luisgrin> wols mysqld is only an executable, i cant find a script
[11:32] <KNUBBIG> With the free drivers, it doesn't even start unity, instead falls back to unity-2d. GS is also not startable, so thanks for your help and see you later :p
[11:33] <VxQf> what is a cli rar utility I can use?
[11:33] <wols> luisgrin: my.cnf has a section [mysqld]
[11:33] <suni> how can we display applet in firefox ?
[11:34] <wols> VxQf: rar
[11:34] <wols> suni: install a java plugin
[11:34] <luisgrin> wols ahhh let me see
[11:34] <snn> tried to apt-get minecraft
[11:35] <snn> failed horribly
[11:35] <suni> wols: I  have installed sun-java6-plugin. But i am getting the result
[11:35] <tomatto_> glebihan: manually, fuck
[11:35] <sudokill> wols- i thought it was unrar?
[11:35] <bazhang> tomatto_, no cursing here
[11:35] <suni> sorry I am getting the result
[11:36] <wols> sudokill: there is a rar binary iirc. non-free of course
[11:36] <sudokill> ah ok
[11:36] <VxQf> I can't install "rar"
[11:36] <sudokill> try unrar
[11:36] <VxQf> nor unrar
[11:36] <sudokill> maybe its there by default
[11:36] <glebihan> VxQf, you have to enable the multiverse repositories
[11:36] <VxQf> It isn't.
[11:36] <VxQf> Guh.
[11:37] <VxQf> It's ubu server.
[11:37] <wols> VxQf: and?
[11:37] <VxQf> ~_~
[11:37] <usr13> tomatto_: http://pkgs.org/download/ubuntu-10.10/ubuntu-updates-universe-i386/seamonkey_2.0.11+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1_all.deb.html
[11:37] <VxQf> Nothing, are they not enabled by default in server?
[11:37] <VxQf> And how do I enable them?
[11:38] <glebihan> VxQf, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "multiverse" at the of the line containing the official ubuntu repositories
[11:39] <glebihan> at the *end* of the line
[11:39] <usr13> tomatto_: http://pkgs.org/package/seamonkey-browser
[11:40] <sudokill> what is with the name seamonkey?
[11:40] <VxQf> Thanks heaps
[11:40] <VxQf> that appears to have worked.
[11:40] <yuka> anybody knows why there is still no effect seen , even after i install compiz manager and click on bunch of em?
[11:41] <VxQf> Also how can I see what is eating all my memory?
[11:41] <Ramses> contact me if you need further help
[11:42] <sudokill> VxQf- try top
[11:42] <glebihan> VxQf, use "top"
[11:42] <usr13> sudokill: It is a name that they liked.
[11:42] <sudokill> VxQf- or even betetr, htop
[11:42] <wols> VxQf: and press "M"
[11:42] <usr13> VxQf: top
[11:42] <VxQf> Top doesn't ...
[11:42] <VxQf> thanks
[11:42] <sudokill> htop >>> top
[11:42] <VxQf> Oh
[11:42] <VxQf> Now I am really confused.
[11:42] <snn> i cant play minecraft =(
[11:43] <usr13> VxQf: What is the matter?
[11:43] <vi390> It seems i just dont get the concept of desktop-couch  - what do i have to do, that it appears as selectable addressbook source in evolution (using natty)
[11:43] <VxQf> It says I am using 1.7GB of memory
[11:43] <VxQf> But the only app using memory is only using 3%
[11:43] <sudokill> maybe its just cached
[11:44] <sudokill> i wouldnt worry
[11:44] <VxQf> CacheD?
[11:44] <luisgrin> wols:  i did it! you must # the bind to 127.0.0.0
[11:44] <sudokill> ie not actually marked as in use
[11:44] <luisgrin> wols:  thanks
[11:44] <sudokill> but ready for if app needs it
[11:44] <VxQf> Right.
[11:45] <usr13> VxQf: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/MemoryManagement
[11:46] <SubNormal> can any one tell me how to fix this "nullmailer[16996]: smtp: Failed: Connect failed" it keeps cluttering up my log file
[11:47] <pwnty> in the new ubuntu how do I see the windows as tabs same as the old statusbar. i'm so used to that
[11:47] <VxQf> Ahh
[11:48] <VxQf> Free was what I was thinking off.
[11:48] <sudokill> pwnty- i think use classic mode
[11:48] <usr13> SubNormal: it's trying to send mail, find out why and stop it.
[11:48] <pwnty> how can I do that sudokill
[11:48] <sudokill> VxQf- yea but that dont say whats using it
[11:48] <VxQf> True.
[11:48] <pwnty> I also want the old menus, where I can find applications, and other stuff.
[11:48] <jinu> How to track running command in system?
[11:48] <VxQf> But what I was asking
[11:48] <sudokill> pwnty- when you login theres some scrolldown box play with that and choose classic
[11:48] <VxQf> was to find out how much it was cacheing. :)
[11:48] <pwnty> jinu: ps -x
[11:48] <VxQf> or rather
[11:48] <VxQf> what I meant to ask.
[11:48] <SubNormal> usr13 how do I do that? it's not even suposed to be sending out mails, as far as i know
[11:49] <pwnty> sudokill: alright, thanks.
[11:49] <sudokill> VxQf- install htop its  a useful one to have
[11:49] <vi390> does someone know anything about desktop-couch ?
[11:49] <VxQf> Nah.
[11:49] <VxQf> I almost never log into this server.
[11:49] <pwnty> sudokill: I just installed the newest ubuntu, is it hard to fix the repos for it?
[11:49] <usr13> SubNormal: You could uninstall nullmailer
[11:49] <gry> vi390: Okay... let's be brief: to make communicaiton more efficient, just ask your question.
[11:49] <sudokill> pwnty- i dont think it will be
[11:49] <sudokill> most things should be 11.04 now
[11:50] <pwnty> sudokill: could you help me through it
[11:50] <maptz> Hi. Is someone know about samba? Particularly samba PDC with a remote BDC.
[11:50] <sudokill> pwnty- just readd the repos
[11:50] <sudokill> for 11.04
[11:50] <sudokill> whatever ones you had
[11:50] <pwnty> i just did the sudo apt-get update, and i got lots of errors and all of that
[11:50] <gry> !ask > maptz
[11:50] <SubNormal> usr13 hmm yeah, that might work, but do you know how I can find out why it's sending out mails?
[11:51] <vi390> how can I get desktop-couch be started (couchdb is installed) i dont know how to get it used by evolution, and most inforesources found dont tell this
[11:51] <jinu> pwnty: It do't show the command like mount..
[11:51] <pwnty> !repos
[11:51] <pwnty> is that it?
[11:51] <vi390> maybe i have a missunderstanding of the concept, but as far as I think it should appear in evolution as address source
[11:51] <vi390> it seems not to be started but I dont know how to start desktop-couch
[11:52] <sudokill> pwnty- i think in the sources file you simply change maverick (or whatever it was) to natty
[11:52] <sudokill> not all might still work
[11:52] <sudokill> pwnty- if i was you id delete them all, and readd them
[11:52] <usr13> SubNormal: What mail client are you using?
[11:53] <jasonmsp> Ive been running a linux server for a few years now, and have just switched over to ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop.  What is a good terminal program to use to connect and have a lot of flexibility on arranging terminal windows?
[11:53] <usr13> SubNormal: Do you have a cron job that might be sending email or  sending an email because it is erroring out ?
[11:53] <pwnty> sudokill: readd them is fine by me, but where to get the stuff of which that I could add in the file lol.
[11:53] <jinu> pwnty: mount command corresponding entry in ps -x is   '30199 ?        S<     0:00 [loop7]'
[11:54] <sudokill> pwnty- just delete them through the gui, then add them however you originally added them
[11:54] <pwnty> jinu: what your trying to do exactly, I might misunderstod you
[11:54] <SubNormal> usr13 hmm that could be, I think I saw cron somewhere
[11:55] <pwnty> sudokill: Well, thanks. you've been helpful
[11:55] <usr13> SubNormal: At any rate, if you uninstall nullmailer, I'm pretty sure you'll solve the problem. nullmailer is not an essential package AFIK and the emails probably aren't important either.
[11:55] <jinu> pwnty: I want to identify the command(used in terminal) with arugument?
[11:56] <pwnty> jinu: I'm still not sure what you want to do
[11:56] <sudokill> SubNormal- its not sending out mails. its nothing to worry about just delete the prog
[11:56] <OneUniqueGeek> Hello.
[11:56] <SubNormal> usr13 true, altough I would like to know why's it's acting like that
[11:56] <usr13> SubNormal: Look in /var/spool/  someplace....
[11:57] <OneUniqueGeek> Hello.
[11:57] <SubNormal> sudokill you what is hapening then?
[11:57] <jinu> pwnty: I want a script that show all the command(at terminal) used in a session till now.
[11:57] <usr13> SubNormal: Look in /var/spool/<somewhere> and you may find copies of emails
[11:58] <OneUniqueGeek> Anyone know of a command that show me all the available recognised hardware?
[11:58] <SubNormal> usr13 /var/spool/nullmailer maybe?
[11:58] <OneUniqueGeek> I want to see if my SSD is recognised.
[11:58] <dr-willis> !info hwinfo
[11:58] <theadmin> OneUniqueGeek: lshw and lspci, also lsusb
[11:58] <sudokill> OneUniqueGeek- isnt it working?
[11:58] <jinu> ping /pwnty
[11:59] <jinu> ping \pwnty
[11:59] <usr13> SubNormal: I dono.  I already told you more than I know ;0
[11:59] <OneUniqueGeek> It's actually not.. I think it might have something to do with the fact it's a SATA II on a SATA I motherboard.
[11:59] <jinu> \pwnty
[11:59] <theadmin> jinu: Please stop that.
[11:59] <pwnty> jinu: well, if you type 'ps -x' it will tell you the stuff that are running in your login/username, then you could kill whatever you want from there
[11:59] <sudokill> OneUniqueGeek- its back compatable
[11:59] <sudokill> afaik...
[12:00] <OneUniqueGeek> @(sudokill) - They are? All of them?
[12:00] <EoN> I'm a W7 user and I want to make the switch to Ubuntu, but I'd like to test it out first.  Can I install Ubuntu on a virtual setup (vmware? virtualbox?) then if i like it after setting everything up, i can export the home dir, then install ubuntu properly on the computer as main boot OS, and hten 'import' that home dir.
[12:00] <wols> OneUniqueGeek: yes
[12:00] <EoN> can i import the home dir like that, with all the settings? wil that work?
[12:00] <wols> OneUniqueGeek: what is your actual problem?
[12:00] <sudokill> OneUniqueGeek- i think so yea but it runs at sata1 speed ofc
[12:00] <wols> EoN: yes
[12:00] <SubNormal> usr13 hehe allright, but according to the log it has 6 mails to send out, and in the /var/log/nullmailer/queue there are 6 files there
[12:00] <kaneda_> EoN; yes
[12:00] <dr-willis> EoN: thats doable if you have the skill
[12:01] <EoN> dr-willis: what part of it requires skill?
[12:01] <OneUniqueGeek> Alright, thanks. I appreciate it.
[12:01] <usr13> SubNormal: Read one of them.
[12:01] <EoN> is it more than a straight copy of the home dir?
[12:01] <dr-willis> knowing what you are doung. EoN
[12:01] <theadmin> dr-willis: Ubiquity has an option to import thingos from Windows
[12:01] <sudokill> OneUniqueGeek- dont forget to add discard to fstab to get auto trim
[12:01] <dr-willis> theadmin: and sometimes it works....  :)
[12:01] <kaneda_> EoN; what dr-willis is saying, because obviously the data is inside a virtual machine, you'd have to extract it out and place it somewhere (network share, usb stick, etc.) before you could copy it into your new ubuntu install
[12:02] <EoN> like if i go to the effort of 'setting it up' on the vm partition, id like to be able to take those settings/config across to the new fresh install - if possible
[12:02] <OneUniqueGeek> Thanks, Already on it. :)
[12:02] <sudokill> OneUniqueGeek- and noatime
[12:02] <ali_> i can't customize unity even the icon-size , is that normal?
[12:02] <kaneda_> EoN; same would happen if you were in reverse (ubuntu as host, windows 7 in VM, then reinstall with windows 7 as host OS)
[12:02] <EoN> kancerman: whne you create a virtual machine - does it see your main computer as a seperate 'ip'? ie seperate box?
[12:02] <EoN> kaneda_*
[12:02] <SubNormal> usr13 allright I opened 1, and it's like it's sending it's self a e-mail? 0.o
[12:02] <EoN> ie are they like 2 networked comuters? or doesnt work liek that?
[12:03] <kaneda_> EoN; yes .. it acts as a completely seperate machine
[12:03] <dr-willis> ali_:  unity plugin in the ccsm tool ets you change some tgings
[12:03] <html> EoN,  ask luke skywalker  for a clone.lol
[12:03] <kaneda_> EoN; so you'd treat it like a 2nd machine on your network
[12:03] <EoN> thats good - so shouldnt be too hard to copy it across machinse
[12:03] <usr13> SubNormal: No useful info?
[12:03] <kaneda_> EoN; yeah, generally isn't problematic
[12:03] <kaneda_> EoN; great for testing at either rate
[12:03] <usr13> SubNormal: How often is it sending emails?
[12:03] <EoN> also 2 more questoins 1. Should i use vmware or virtualbox or other?  and 2. how much space will it take all up?
[12:04] <theadmin> EoN: Virtualbox rules
[12:04] <kaneda_> EoN; up to you - either vbox or vmware workstation will work
[12:04] <kaneda_> some prefer vbox, i prefer vmware workstation
[12:04] <sudokill> vbox is the standard
[12:04] <dr-willis> EoN:  id say vbox
[12:04] <ali_> dr-willis: thank u , i thought there's another way instead of ccsm
[12:04] <EoN> ok i'll try vbox - cheers
[12:04] <snn> its funny how window move on compiz works
[12:04] <sudokill> snn- what wobbly windows?
[12:05] <snn> sudokill: no just window move, i thought it was only for a modifier key but it seems that if i disable it window moving is disabled alltogether
[12:05] <babilen> EoN: kvm + virt-manager is definitely worth a look too
[12:05] <usr13> EoN: >5G
[12:05] <SubNormal> usr13 no not that I can notice, it seems to be empty, it seems to be trying to send every second
[12:05] <Icehawk78> How can I browse available CIFS shares on a network via command line?
[12:06] <sudokill> snn- oh ok. never tried it
[12:06] <dr-willis> Icehawk78:  smbclient
[12:06] <snn> sudokill : im afraid to customise window management right now
[12:06] <sudokill> snn- why? just play with it lol
[12:06] <sudokill> you wont damage anything
[12:06] <usr13> SubNormal: That doesn't sound like a cron job, cron jobs only happen once a minute.
[12:06] <Icehawk78> dr-willis: Thanks
[12:06] <dr-willis> Icehawk78:  check samba docs package for books  with examples. :)
[12:07] <snn> sudokill : oh believe me its dangerous, im just happy i got my keyboard use back (using macbook pro)
[12:07] <abcdddc> hello everyone
[12:07] <SubNormal> usr13 that might be, if it's sending 6 emails every 1 minute, checking the log
[12:08] <abcdddc> is it okay to run Windows adn Ubuntu in same partition?
[12:08] <snn> abcdddc : yes, im using it right now
[12:08] <sudokill> abcdddc- why though?
[12:08] <dr-willis> abcdddc: clarify what you mean
[12:08]  * Wikileaks No estoy cualquier cosa llamada, mensaje o WhatsApp al 610966607: Gone away for now
[12:08] <sudokill> you might as well use ext4 for ubuntu
[12:09] <abcdddc> i mean.. i have a partition C:\ which is 200 GB.. i want to install Ubuntu on 100 GB of it..
[12:09] <html> abcdddc,  depends on what your trying to do, and what you get out of it ,
[12:09] <sudokill> abcdddc- yea, dual booting
[12:09] <usr13> abcdddc: You can not install two OSs on the same partition
[12:09] <abcdddc> will it be fine? and everything will work as it works on alone installation?
[12:09] <sudokill> 2 100gb partitions
[12:09] <dr-willis> abcdddc:  you repartition. or use wubi.
[12:09] <kaneda_> sounds like wubi would do you for now
[12:09] <abcdddc> dr-willis, yes Im using Wubi.
[12:09] <abcdddc> 11.04 .. version i will be installing.
[12:10] <EoN> 100gb? how would ubuntu use 100gb??
[12:10] <usr13> abcdddc: Well, yea, asside from Wubi
[12:10] <sudokill> it dont
[12:10] <snn> EoN : multimedia maybe?
[12:10] <sudokill> EoN- he might want data
[12:10] <sudokill> or just to plait it even
[12:10] <sudokill> split*
[12:10] <dr-willis> abcdddc: wubi uses a special file.  i dint reccimend wubi
[12:10] <EoN> ahh right yeah
[12:11] <SubNormal> usr13 it's trying to send all 6 mails every 1 minute
[12:11] <sudokill> abcdddc- if i was you id install ubuntu normally to second partition
[12:11] <sudokill> no wubi
[12:11] <EoN> has anyone here managed to succesfullyl sync their (non jailbroken) iPhone with ubuntu?
[12:11] <usr13> wubi is just for experimentation IMHO
[12:12] <theadmin> wubi is for getting a half-broken system
[12:12] <sudokill> its simply for noobs who are fresh from windows lookign for the easiest way
[12:12] <usr13> theadmin: What do you mean?
[12:12] <theadmin> usr13: I know that many WUBI installs end up broken.
[12:12] <dr-willis> wubi seems to break easially
[12:13] <usr13> theadmin: Oh, ok..  Yea, Im not a bit wubi fan
[12:13] <sudokill> i personally cant even stand the though of dual booting windows, on the same drive
[12:13] <usr13> *big  not  bit
[12:13] <Bernhard> How can i setup a new server with /boot not on LVM and the rest on LVM.. i cant seem to find to good guide..
[12:14] <usr13> sudokill: Why not?
[12:14] <SubNormal> usr13 do you know how to find out if it's cron that's trying to do this?
[12:14] <sudokill> usr13- just feels like linux is then "tied" to windows lol
[12:15] <Tophen> Back..
[12:15] <usr13> SubNormal: If the emails don't tell you, you'll just have to look at the con jobs.  Try:  crontab -l    and  sudo crontab -l
[12:15] <sudokill> subanomic- you not uninstalled that yet?
[12:15] <sudokill> SubNormal- ..
[12:15] <Younder> Is it possible to allow unity to launch several xterminals?
[12:15] <ali_> anyone knows a proxy faster than "Tor" or "anon-proxy"?
[12:16] <sudokill> Younder- yes...
[12:16] <SubNormal> sudokill no not yet, trying to figure out whats going on before
[12:16] <sudokill> Younder- you mean from the launch bar on the left?
[12:16] <sudokill> i think hold ctrl and click it
[12:16] <Younder> sudokill, yes
[12:16] <sudokill> that may be gnome 3 though...
[12:16] <sudokill> ali_- there are lots
[12:16] <Younder> sudokill, still using version 2
[12:17] <sudokill> ali_- i think like vpn or something
[12:17] <usr13> sudokill: [IF you must dual boot]: I  recommend having Linux on a second HD, but I also recommend putting the bootloader on the primary drive.
[12:17] <sudokill> usr13- i dual boot with xp for games, different drive. boot loaders on each drive and just press f8 to choose drive at bootup
[12:17] <Younder> sudokill, no that isn't working for me. I still just get one.
[12:17] <sudokill> Younder- not sure :s
[12:18] <sudokill> try typing it in from the terminal itself, lol itll work then..
[12:18] <SubNormal> usr13 I just get "no crontab" for both user and root
[12:18] <ali_> sudokill: our country censors internet , and somehow my isp has blocked connection to vpn, i can just use proxies
[12:18] <usr13> sudokill: Problem is, if you have a dual boot MS Windows / Linux, what happens is that sooner or later the MS Windows part get's neglected and ultimately takes up space for no reason.
[12:19] <sudokill> ali_- tor is random sometimes you get a blazing connection others it barely works
[12:19] <ikonia> usr13: that's nonsense
[12:19] <sudokill> usr13- i know that, but i only use mine for games..
[12:19] <usr13> ikonia: What is nonsense?
[12:19] <ikonia> usr13: windows just takes up space for noreason
[12:19] <|OLLIE|> ali_: pick up a cheap vps from the country you wish to proxy through, and install a proxy. Or just port forward via ssh.
[12:20] <usr13> ikonia: This is OT, but if you don't use it, [as I said], it takes up space for no reason.
[12:20] <sudokill> ali_- where are you from?
[12:20] <sudokill> usr13- you make no sense. if you dont use it. you remove it lol
[12:20] <ikonia> usr13: no it doesn't, please don't offer that sort of nosense advice
[12:20] <usr13> ikonia: what advise?
[12:21] <SubNormal> usr13 could this be it? "Subject: Cron <root@********> start -q anacron || :" that's one of the e-mails
[12:21] <ikonia> usr13: that windows just randomly takes up space for no reason
[12:21] <ali_> sudokill :from iran
[12:21] <MagicJ> ali and sudokill - tor can be configured to use an exit node in any country - or for that matter an entry mode there too
[12:21] <sudokill> ali_- how you on irc?
[12:21] <sudokill> not using tor
[12:21] <sudokill> web proxy?
[12:22] <usr13> ikonia: Your comments are illogical and incoherent
[12:22] <ikonia> !behelpful | usr13
[12:22] <usr13> and OT
[12:22] <sudokill> usr13- where did the whole windows is a waste of space if you dont use it, come from? lol
[12:22] <ikonia> usr13 it is not offtopic if you are advisuing someone incorrectly
[12:22] <usr13> sudokill: It is OT
[12:22] <sudokill> :s
[12:23] <usr13> ikonia: I am not advising anyone.  Your comments are illogical and incoherent.
[12:25] <theadmin> ikonia: I think you may have a misunderstanding there. He just stated that in his opinion, when you dual-boot, with time you forget about Windows, wind up no longer needing it, and thus all it ultimately does is taking up space. It's not any sort of advice.\
[12:25] <ali_> sudokill: didn't catch u :), by the way, thanks 4 ur help
[12:26] <sudokill> ok
[12:26] <ikonia> theadmin: possibly, but that' easy to exaplin, as you've just done.
[12:26] <theadmin> ikonia: Heh he tried to :D
[12:26] <ewww> hello people, how will i open port 25 in ubuntu?
[12:26] <dr_willis> ewww,  start a service that listens to that port..
[12:26] <ultrixx> it is
[12:26] <ultrixx> open
[12:27] <dr_willis> ewww,  theres no default firewall rules blovking anything.. just nothing listening  by default either.. :)
[12:27] <ali_> when i try to install xubuntu-desktop , it gonna remove ubuntu-desktop, how can i ignore this? just wanna have ubuntu-desktop+xfce , and i don't want the extra packages, any idea?
[12:28] <EoN> Does anyone know of a software client that can be used on ubuntu to connect to MS SQL on a diff box?
[12:28] <ewww> dr_willis: actually my problem is that my outlook email is bouncing back, i could no longer receive and send email, what probably the cause of this? and i dont find also open port 25
[12:28] <kaneda_> ewww; are you sure its not an issue with your email provider?
[12:29] <theadmin> ali_: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it doesn't actually provide anything. You can safely remove it.
[12:29] <dr_willis> ewww,  see if theres any firewall rules in place.. if so you may want to clear them out.
[12:29] <dr_willis> ali_,  ubuntu-desktop is a meta package.. dont worry about it
[12:29] <ewww> kaneda_: im sure about it because before that i never had this proxy, outlook works fine until i installed it
[12:30] <ali_> theadmin: thanx
[12:30] <ewww> dr_willis: is it necessary that it should have open ports 25?
[12:30] <dr_willis> ewww,  if you have firewall rules that have it closed.. you need to open it..  its not blocked by default.
[12:31] <maptz> I'm trying to join a samba domain with my XP client but xp client says "domain can't be join"
[12:31] <maptz>  I'm trying to join a samba domain with my XP client but xp client says "domain can't be join".
[12:31] <Tophen> Help anyone?
[12:31] <dr_willis> Tophen,  state the question.
[12:32] <Tophen> Alrighty, on top of other things. I've started a format on my external hd and it's taking forever. I want to cancel it. How should i?
[12:32] <ewww> dr_willis: i see, is this always available as you install ubuntu?
[12:32] <sudokill> Tophen- you wont achieve anything by cancelling it
[12:32] <dr_willis> how are you foramting it Tophen  and why stop it?
[12:33] <theadmin> Tophen: The drive will become pretty much unusable if you cancel the format
[12:33] <dr_willis> ewww,  huh? theres no default firewall rules blocking anything...   thats how ubuntu is by default.
[12:33] <Tophen> I kinda changed my mind..
[12:33] <Tophen> But now actually I'll leave it.
[12:33] <maptz>  I'm trying to join a samba domain with my XP client but xp client says "domain can't be join". I see UDP packets from client to  pdc and other way. my pdc is ready and listen to connection.
[12:33] <sudokill> Tophen- are you hoping to keep the data on it?
[12:33] <ewww> dr_willis: because im trying to nmap it but i dont find 25/tcp open, i already flush the iptables and accept all connection from all chains
[12:33] <dr_willis> Tophen,  not like you are going to Unformat it :) and get the data back
[12:33] <maptz> Someone can help me for that?
[12:33] <Tophen> No. I'm completely wiping it.
[12:34] <sudokill> Tophen- just leave it  ...
[12:34] <Tophen> I don't need the old data. I backed it up.
[12:34] <dr_willis> ewww,  if Nothing is listening on it.. nothing replies.. so it gets no output back...
[12:34] <Tophen> Ok. How long do you reckon it will take?
[12:34] <sudokill> Tophen- no one can answer that
[12:34] <theadmin> Tophen: How big is the partition?
[12:34] <EoN> is there any ubuntu/linux client i can use to connect to an mssql server instance and run sql queries against it etc?
[12:34] <Tophen> 500gb.
[12:34] <dr_willis> Tophen,  you never mentioned the size, type, or connection....
[12:34] <Tophen> SIngle partition.
[12:34] <sudokill> Tophen- it shouldnt take forever...
[12:34] <Tophen> Sorry.
[12:34] <ewww> dr_willis: how will i know if there is that port 25 is listening
[12:35] <Tophen> Thanks...
[12:35] <theadmin> Tophen: This might take a while... an hour or so probably
[12:35] <dr_willis> ewww,  You got a service running thats listening to that port?  sounds like you may not have the service going.
[12:35] <sudokill> Tophen- are you doing some full format from windows or something?
[12:35] <Tophen> Nooo!!
[12:35] <sudokill> ok
[12:35] <sudokill> shouldnt take long then
[12:35] <Tophen> No just wiping my unused external 500gb hard drive.
[12:35] <ewww> dr_willis: maybe i dont find services using port 25, so how do i open port 25?
[12:35] <Tophen> To use as the linux drive.
[12:35] <dr_willis> I would think an HR would be a HIGH estimate..  perhaps 20 min
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <FloodBot1> mibbit123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <dr_willis> ewww,  it IS OPEN...    you are using the term open/closed in a incorrect way..
[12:36] <dr_willis> ewww,  you need to start a service that uses it.
[12:37] <dr_willis> !firewall
[12:37] <maptz>  I'm trying to join a samba domain with my XP client but xp client says "domain can't be join". I see UDP packets from client to  pdc and other way. my pdc is ready and listen to connection with an ldap backend. I use smbldap-tools and they are configure such as nsswitch.conf. Someone can help me for this?
[12:37] <dr_willis> No firewall rules = everything is basically open.  but nothing is listening.. so no answers..
[12:38] <ewww> dr_willis: ok
[12:38] <dr_willis> I think i summarized that right.. :)
[12:39] <blackshirt> maptz: are you have configure your samba, ldap, correctly ?
[12:40] <maptz> blackshirt: I think unless I miss something
[12:40] <maptz> ldap : samba.schema
[12:40] <maptz> rootdn
[12:40] <maptz> passdn
[12:41] <maptz> and samba is ok with testparm
[12:42] <blackshirt> maptz: i have ever configure it, and works greats..but i forgot for documenting it
 I did it once, 10 days ago but I want to try a second time and i can't join my domain.
[12:45] <blackshirt> maptz: are you sure name resolving was not your problem ?
[12:47] <Abd4llA> ping kim0
[12:47] <maptz> blackshirt: I don't think, samba is wins server too and name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast.
[12:48] <phillyj> can someone help me dual install 10.04.3 AMD64 version?
[12:48] <phillyj> I'm stuck on the partition setup page and not sure what to do
[12:49] <maptz> blackshirt: I'll check that
[12:49] <phillyj> I don't see the automatic partition option to install side by side
[12:49] <blackshirt> maptz: yeah.. i'm not my office server..sory can't help you so much
[12:50] <sabya> my Ubuntu 11.04 install (alongside Win 7) hangs at the screen where they ask "where are you?"
[12:51] <phillyj> before i go and try it manually, is the only option for automatic partition "Erase and use the entire disk"?
[12:52] <blackshirt> phillyj: you have a full option and control on manually mode
[12:52] <sabya> any idea?
[12:52] <bullgard4_> '~$ w' does not produce meaningful output. Is this normal?
[12:53] <phillyj> blackshirt: what do you mean by full option?
[12:54] <Tophen> My format is still going :P
[12:54] <bullgard4_> sabya: This channel is for Ubuntu 11.10.
[12:54] <Tophen> What happens if I just pull it ou?
[12:54] <Pici> bullgard4_: No its not.
[12:54] <blackshirt> phillyj: you have great control for all options
[12:55] <Pici> bullgard4_: You're in #ubuntu right now
[12:55] <bullgard4_> sabya: I made a mistake. My aplogies.
[12:55] <maptz> blackshirt: I add a wins server in XP client, i have the same message but a log.clientName  appear, i'll check it
[12:56] <blackshirt> maptz: i'm waiting for that
[12:56] <phillyj> blackshirt: well, it seems different from the Windows Dual boot instruction page. Guess I have to use manual partition option
[12:56] <Tophen> What'll happen if I just pull out my hard drive while formatting?
[12:57] <blackshirt> phillyj: you should understand what are you doing when doing it in manual mode
[12:57] <phillyj> I can't find the automatic option
[12:57] <onto> hi, I can't play two sound applications at the same time, why is this happening? For example if I'm playing mplayer along with a flash video, I can either only hear mplayer or flash (depending on the order of precedence)
[12:58] <maptz> blackshirt: All right, I'm in my domain! It was a name resolution error I think because I just change wins options in windows
[12:59] <phillyj> The only option I have to "Prepare disk space" is "Erase and use the entire disk" OR "Specify partitions manually(Advanced)"
[12:59] <blackshirt> maptz: greats works...congratulations
[12:59] <lion42> Tophen, part or all of it could become permanently inaccessible, afaik
[12:59] <Tophen> Argh!
[13:00] <lion42> same thing as if you lose power. which is why you should use a battery or ups.
[13:00] <Tophen> But it's taking FOREVER
[13:00] <lion42> boo? poor baby.
[13:00] <Tophen> So there's nothing I can do?
[13:00] <lion42> you can wait.
[13:00] <Tophen> Devooooo...
[13:00] <blackshirt> phillyj: erase and entire disk was automatic..but will use all your hardisk
[13:01] <Tophen> How long should it take on average? External Hard Drive, 500gb.
[13:01] <Tophen> Formatting to EXT4.
[13:01] <phillyj> blackshirt: so theres no option to "install side by side"?
[13:01] <koopa58> Hi everyone. Anyone can point me to a tutorial for making a very simple .sh script? I run Ubuntu server of course. I just need to copy over a mysql database on the same server, and a directory.
[13:02] <lion42> like... 5 minutes?
[13:02] <maptz> blackshirt: Thank you... but it was just the first part. Now I have to configure a remote bdc for my pdc. I'm try to do that since one week but I can't join the domain with a client in bdc's subnet
[13:02] <Tophen> Been a lot longer.
[13:02] <Tophen> Maybe an hour now?
[13:03] <Tophen> I think it's already fucked.
[13:03] <lion42> how fast is the connection?
[13:03] <ikonia> !language | Tophen
[13:03] <Tophen> Awkies.
[13:03] <Tophen> Umm yeah and it's like 4mbps?
[13:03] <blackshirt> maptz: i no have experience to setup with bdc..but i think from help.ubuntu.com there are greats howto
[13:03] <Tophen> usually about 1-2mbps on average actually.
[13:04] <lion42> hmm. if its an external id wait it out a bit longer
[13:04] <Tophen> Alrighty then.. :)
[13:04] <blackshirt> phillyj: maybe better you are doing through manually partition.. you can setup partition like you want
[13:04] <herkupus> Tophen: external means connected via usb?
[13:04] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:05] <Tophen> Hitachi 500gb.
[13:05] <herkupus> Tophen: check if it is actually using usb2.0
[13:05] <Tophen> Uhhh how?
[13:05] <Tophen> Sorry I'm not that good :)
[13:05] <maptz> blackshirt: I followed different howto with no results, so I try a second time.
[13:06] <phillyj> blackshirt: ok
[13:06] <ubuntu_982011> Hi, does someone know how to change left and right of the mouse? I've got a touchscreen. touching up and down is fine, but if I put my hand to the left, the mouse goes to the right
[13:06] <phillyj> now the instructions on the dualboot doc seem different than what I have
[13:06] <Tophen> Connection: USB at 12mb/s.
[13:06] <herkupus> Tophen: that's only usb1.1
[13:06] <koopa58> Is there something like array's in a shell script?
[13:07] <herkupus> Tophen: usb2.0 would be 480mb/s
[13:07] <Tophen> Cra
[13:07] <Tophen> p
[13:07] <blackshirt> phillyj: don't panic..
[13:07] <berkes> previously the Gnome Help Center in ubuntu could render Manpages. Is that feature available somewhere (hidden) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[13:07] <Tophen> Now that I've started....
[13:07] <Tophen> The format..
[13:07] <Tophen> On extremely slow.... Anything I can do?
[13:08] <herkupus> Tophen: try killing the mkfs.ext4 process
[13:08] <Younder> Just got my lat issue of ubuntu user. Recommend the article about upstart
[13:08] <Tophen> How?
[13:08] <Tophen> Sorry I'm new to linux.
[13:09] <berkes> herkupus, won't killing mkfs.ext4 corrupt the disk beyond repair?
[13:09] <phillyj> blackshirt: I see a device , ntfs with ~600 gb and 35 gb is used
[13:09] <Tophen> Oh god what have I gotten myself into.
[13:09] <herkupus> berkes: why? mkfs is no low level format
[13:09] <herkupus> berkes: mkfs is just putting a filesystem on a block device
[13:10] <berkes> herkupus, yea. True. As long as you are not mkdfs-ing the disk where you are operating on, you can probably re-do it later again, Tophen.
[13:10] <Tophen> Look. I started a format on my external 500gb format from fat32 to EXT4. I accidentally did it on 1.0.
[13:10] <Tophen> Ok.
[13:10] <ikonia> Tophen: what's the issue ?
[13:10] <Tophen> So can I cancel this?
[13:10] <phillyj> blackshirt: when I hit "change" it gives me the option  "New partition size in mb"
[13:10] <Tophen> Safely?
[13:10] <Tophen> I started the format on usb 1.0 speed.
[13:11] <herkupus> Tophen: i'd say just unplug it if you want to format it anyway later
[13:11] <Tophen> that'll take forever
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: how did you start it on usb1 speed ?
[13:11] <Tophen> ok
[13:11] <berkes> Tophen, then it is safe to kill. Sorry to stumble in, I did not read the entire backlog but wanted to stop you from breaking anything beyond repair. I was shouting too soon. Excuse me.
[13:11] <Tophen> I don't know. Herkupus just said that it was.
[13:11] <phillyj> blackshirt: and also, a drop-down for "Use as:"
[13:11] <Tophen> Thanks anyway :)
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: I believe that's not correct
[13:11] <Tophen> so how do I kill ecactly?
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: the mkfs command does not have an option for "USB speed"
[13:11] <herkupus> 15:06 < Tophen> Connection: USB at 12mb/s.
[13:11] <blackshirt> phillyj: yeah, you are have freedom on it
[13:11] <herkupus> Tophen: that's what you said
[13:11] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:12] <Tophen> That's what it says in disk utility.
[13:12] <ikonia> Tophen: just let it run,
[13:12] <lion42> herkupus: if his goal is to get to ext4 anyways, and hes already an hour in wouldnt it be worth just waiting it out?
[13:12] <blackshirt> phillyj: use as was file system formatted to
[13:12] <Tophen> So... how long do you think it will take?
[13:12] <Tophen> And COULD I safely kill it?
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: unknown, it depends on a lot of things
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: just let it run,
[13:13] <sudokill> Tophen- just leave iton
[13:13] <Tophen> Oh man...
[13:13] <Tophen> This will take like years.
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: tell you waht then - power off the machine
[13:13] <auronandace> Tophen: what do you need a 500gb ext4 partition for?
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: you don't seem to want to hear advice, so just unplug it and walk away
[13:13] <sabya> my Ubuntu 11.04 install (alongside Win 7) hangs at the screen where they ask "where are you?"... any idea?
[13:14] <Tophen> No... I've taken the advice... I'm doing it.
[13:14] <Tophen> I'm just a bit mad.
[13:14] <ikonia> Tophen: you had no idea how long it will take, and your making comments like "this will take years" how do you know if you have no idea how long it will take
[13:14] <sudokill> Tophen- it shouldnt take that long
[13:14] <bullgard4_> sabya: You can select for example "Berlin".
[13:14] <ikonia> Tophen: then calm down and stop talking nonsense, and listen to people trying to help you
[13:14] <Tophen> And auronanadace: I'm using it as a dedicated linux drive.
[13:14] <Tophen> Alrighty.... :)
[13:15] <lion42> the linuxes are out to get you! run!
[13:15] <phillyj> can someone give sabya the irc chat for 11.04?
[13:15] <bullgard4_> sabya: You need to select a representative entry for your time zone.
[13:15] <auronandace> Tophen: i see, 500gb seems a little excessive for 1 linux partition
[13:15] <Pici> phillyj: Thats here.
[13:15] <Tophen> Yeahh I didn't really think about it
[13:16] <Tophen> Which is why I wanted to cancel.
[13:16] <lion42> phillyj: uh, this one?
[13:16] <phillyj> Pici: so am I in the wrong one, for 10.04?
[13:16] <sudokill> Tophen- just reboot. then redo it
[13:16] <Tophen> Won't that corrupt my drive?
[13:16] <sudokill> theres nothing on it...
[13:17] <Tophen> I'm willing to wait if that's my only real option.
[13:17] <Tophen> But won't it make the drive unreadable?
[13:17] <Pici> phillyj: All supported releases of Ubuntu are supported out of this channel.
[13:17] <phillyj> blackshirt: "Use as" has option like "do not use the partition", "swap area", "ntfs", etc.
[13:17] <sudokill> Tophen- no i doubt it very much
[13:17] <sabya> bullgard4_: i can not. niether does the select work, nor can I type in that screen
[13:17] <Tophen> Second opinion before I do this anyone?
[13:17] <blackshirt> phillyj: yeah, that was partition type
[13:18] <lion42> i will lol so hard when it finishes formatting in like 3 minutes.
[13:18] <sudokill> Tophen- your not going to kill your drive doing that
[13:18] <Tophen> Argh. I'm just going to leave it for 30 minutes or so.
[13:18] <phillyj> blackshirt: do I select "ntfs" after entering the size of the partition?
[13:18] <Tophen> If it's not done by then. Bam. Second option.
[13:19] <blackshirt> phillyj: are you sure ntfs for linux partition ?
[13:19] <sudokill> phillyj- use ext4
[13:19] <sudokill> its the standard
[13:19] <phillyj> blackshirt: no, i don't know
[13:19] <phillyj> ok
[13:20] <Tophen> Is there anyway to tell if it's actually doing anything?
[13:20] <blackshirt> phillyj: i thinks that was not good idea to place linux on ntfs partition..choose ext3 or ext4..
[13:20] <bullgard4_> sabya: So something in the install process went seriously wrong. The only thing I can advise it to start the installation process anew.
[13:20] <sudokill> Tophen- if theres no output, run top see if mkfs is running
[13:21] <herkupus> Tophen: meanwhile you can check if your machine has a usb2.0 host controller.
[13:21] <sudokill> Tophen- i dont know how your doing it..
[13:21] <Tophen> How would I tell?
[13:21] <sudokill> Tophen- do lspci -v
[13:21] <Tophen> in the term?
[13:21] <sudokill> itll say usb2 controller
[13:21] <Tophen> ok
[13:22] <sudokill> you dont need the -v
[13:22] <herkupus> Tophen: type "ls /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd" in a shell and check if some numbers like 0000:00:0b.1 shows up
[13:22] <ChickenHawk> Hi all.  Is there a way to have a separate theme for each user in Natty?  My GF made changes to the theme under her account, but under my account my theme was changed to what she did =\
[13:22] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: That's very weird, cause these settings are per-user.
[13:22] <sudokill> ChickenHawk- it shouldnt...
[13:22] <bullgard4_> sabya: If the second install process stops unexpectedly again, then try to install Ubuntu a third time and now without a graphical user interface.
[13:22] <sabya> bullgard4_: does not solve
[13:22] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Sounds like a bug.
[13:23] <ChickenHawk> fml
[13:23] <Tophen> Yes.
[13:23] <Tophen> It DOES have USB 2.0
[13:23] <Tophen> But how do I know which?
[13:23] <sudokill> Tophen- if the drives usb2 it sohuld be using usb2
[13:23] <herkupus> Tophen: but for some reason the external harddisk seems not to use it
[13:23] <Tophen> there's a 1.0 AND a 2.0
[13:23] <bullgard4_> sabya: "does not solve" is no exact description. Thus I cannot help you.
[13:24] <sudokill> Tophen- sometimes front ports are usb1
[13:24] <wols> Tophen: you plug in your usb device and your kernel tells you at what speed it's connected. see dmesg output
[13:24] <Tophen> I'm on a macbook regular
[13:24] <Tophen> only two usb ports
[13:24] <phillyj> blackshirt: just to make sure: [1] I select the device with 600 gb free space, [2] Edit by changing the size from 600 to smaller size, [3] set "Use as" to EXT4 JFS
[13:24] <sudokill> theyre prob both2 then
[13:24] <sabya> bullgard4_: sorry. I tried again and it stalls in the same screen everytime
[13:25] <phillyj> blackshirt: should I format the partition or not?
[13:25] <bullgard4_> sabya: So try to install Ubuntu without installing a GUI.
[13:25] <Tophen> I think it IS running on 2.0
[13:25] <sabya> bullgard4_: was looking at these bug reports: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/772415
[13:25] <Tophen> when i plugged in my other usb
[13:25] <Tophen> not my ehd
[13:26] <Tophen> and went to disk utility
[13:26] <Tophen> it also says Connection: USB
[13:27] <Tophen> I think i've stuffed my ehd AGAIN.
[13:27] <bullgard4_> sabya: That man wrote: "Today I tried again but this time DISCONECTING THE NETWORK, and voila!. It let me choose the right TimeZone and carry on with the installing process." You could try this also.
[13:28] <YokoBR> hi guys
[13:28] <phillyj> just to make sure, I am partitioning an NTFS device to contain a smaller EXT4 device, correct?
[13:28] <sabya> bullgard4_: Yes. Let me try that. Have to reboot :-(
[13:28] <shane_> anyone getting blazing slow speeds in the 600 B/s range  when trying to use apt?
[13:28] <bullgard4_> sabya: Yes.
[13:29] <wols> phillyj: incorrect
[13:30] <bullgard4_> shane_: May be your repository is under repair or in heavy demand at this time.
[13:30] <wols> phillyj: to install side by side you have a ntfs partition and a ext4 partition besides it. and usually a small swap parttion as well
[13:30] <Tophen> That's it I'm pulling it I don't even care anymore.
[13:31] <Tophen> Oh crap I just did tha.
[13:32] <ChickenHawk> Okay, it was a UI bug.  I assumed she had made theme changes, but when I went for a reboot I logged into her account and found that no changes had been made.  A reboot reset the UI back to normal.
[13:32] <YokoBR> Please, can someone give me a hand at dns and email stuff?
[13:32] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Ah, see, told you so
[13:32] <wols> YokoBR: ask your real question
[13:32] <ChickenHawk> YokoBR: What exactly do you need?
[13:32] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Nice that you got your GF to use Ubuntu :D
[13:33] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: She never saw it before.  When she heard I put it on the laptop she was like "AWW WTF, no way, I'm not using it!"  ... Days later... She's addicted.
[13:33] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Hehe, is she learning bash yet?
[13:33] <YokoBR> I've created a mail server. (mail.sindifesteste.com.br), then add to dns my entries... But i can't do that spf stuff...  Although, my path to webmail is www.sindifesteste.com.br/webmail.. i'm pretty lost here
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: Oh I've have her bash scripting in no time XD
[13:34] <Tophen> herkupus: I just pulled it and it's still working :)
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> is my chat text seriously grey?
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> damn you XChat
[13:35] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Mind if I /q you?
[13:35] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: go ahead
[13:35] <YokoBR> i mean, i'm dellivering emails to almost every host, but i canno't send to gmail's.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hello folks
[13:35] <wols> YokoBR: and your gmail error is?
[13:36] <phillyj> After I make my EXT4 partition, I also have to make a swap partition?
[13:36] <YokoBR> wols, i get that message (Our system has detected an unusual rate of unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our  users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been blocked.)
[13:36] <wols> phillyj: it is advised
[13:36] <escott> phillyj, you don't have to, but many do
[13:37] <vsync> phillyj it depends how much ram you're packing really
[13:37] <wols> YokoBR: so google thinks you are a spammer
[13:37] <wols> YokoBR: are you sending any newsletters?
[13:37] <Myrtti> phillyj: are you running a laptop?
[13:37] <YokoBR> wols, nope, at least not yet.
[13:38] <wols> YokoBR: too many people on gmail decided your mail was spam, so gmail blocks you now
[13:38] <Myrtti> phillyj: if you are, and even if you're using Ubuntu Desktop on a normal desktop computer but use hibernation, swap is essential
[13:38] <Tophen> Ok guys. I canceled it. Now here's my problem again. I'm on a school-given macbook and we can't run all programs. I'm running linux off the boot cd and I'm going to make both a boot cd and i'm going to format my 500gb external hard drive so that I can store all my stuff for linux on there (like games I can't run on windows).
[13:38] <wols> YokoBR: e.g. http://www.rackaid.com/resources/gmail-blacklist-removal/
[13:38] <Tophen> What fs should I use and how should I do it.
[13:39] <llutz> YokoBR: check http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a186.215.98.2  and see the "details" why you have been blacklisted
[13:39] <wols> Tophen: if it will be linux only, use ext3
[13:39] <Tophen> Why not ext4?
[13:39] <wols> why would you use ext4?
[13:39] <Pici> wols: why would you use ext3?
[13:39] <Tophen> Because it's a higher number?
[13:39] <escott> Tophen, if it is linux only use ext4
[13:39] <Tophen> Jokes!!
[13:39] <vsync> better performance in ext4, really
[13:39] <YokoBR> geezzz... well, let me be sincere. I've got my static ip from my ISP 2 months ago. Then i was still setting up my server, and i've figured out that i was hacked (7 times, or more)
[13:39] <Tophen> Ok.. 3 or 4?
[13:40] <wols> Pici: maximum compatibility without any downsides. unless you can show me one
[13:40] <vsync> Tophen 4
[13:40] <Tophen> One guy says 3, one guy says 4?
[13:40] <wols> vsync: better? on a usb2 drive?
[13:40] <Tophen> Ok, I'll just go with 4.
[13:40] <escott> Tophen, the ext3 ext4 difference is mostly in extents which is good for larger files
[13:40] <wols> escott: how is it better on a usb drive?
[13:40] <Tophen> Ok. I'll be storing large games and stuff.
[13:41] <vsync> wols could be, conn might bottleneck, but still. In any case if it's for a usb-drive, you might even wanna go with ntfs
[13:41] <wols> vsync: no you don't want to use ntfs for his usage scenario
[13:41] <MasBlaMan> hi all
[13:41] <Tophen> Will I be able to transfer games from windows onto linux?
[13:41] <vsync> wols and that is?
[13:42] <coz_> Tophen,   that is going to depend on the game itself and if wine can run them
[13:42] <escott> Tophen, you will be able to read windows disks and copy files, but you wont be able to run most of them
[13:42] <wols> Tophen: you said you wanted it to use for linux only. and no, running windows games is something linux isn't good at. you can run some but far from all
[13:42] <MasBlaMan> how does video ram impact the overall ram detection?
[13:42] <Tophen> But if I use Play on Linux?
[13:42] <Tophen> I'm only gonna be on Steam Games, which are supported.
[13:42] <wols> MasBlaMan: not at all. different kind of RAM
[13:42] <coz_> MasBlaMan,  in terms of  useage?
[13:43] <escott> MasBlaMan, are you seeing less ram than you think you should because of your video ram?
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> i have 3gb installed and 2 295gtx with 896MB each
[13:43] <escott> MasBlaMan, ie you are running 32bit and have 2x2gb dimms but only see 2.5 or something
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> and ubuntu 32bit sees only 2 GB ram
[13:43] <lion42> steam is semisupportedish.
[13:43] <Tophen> Yeah i know.
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> iu have 3 * 1GB
[13:43] <Tophen> But I don't have a choice.
[13:43] <lion42> you need to test the games you wanna use.
[13:43] <wols> vsync: using a filesystem for linux only. but then, seems he didn't really tell the truth what he intends to do, so who knows?
[13:44] <vsync> MasBlaMan and in the address space if you're seeing too big of numbers that's because the address space between 3-4g (iirc) is reserved for the pcie address-space
[13:44] <YokoBR> wols, it says i'm blacklisted because i was hacked (7 times). I do know that, i was an open proxy for 2 months.... but it ended in april, when i finished my security settings.... now i am no more...
[13:44] <Tophen> I'm on a macbook that we get given at school.
[13:44] <escott> MasBlaMan, the video ram has to be addressable, so it takes the first 2 gigs of address space. there are only addresses for another 2gb of ram. you should run the PAE kernel
[13:44] <usermanager> any cheap magazine comes with ubuntu cd ?
[13:44] <Tophen> Alright, I'll reprashe my quesiton with more detail.
[13:44] <wols> YokoBR: ask google about your problems. not us. we do ubuntu support, not google support
[13:44] <escott> usermanager, search for a LUG (linux users group) in your area. someone will surely burn you a disk
[13:45] <hwilde> MasBlaMan, 32bit can see more than 2G.  You might have a bad stick
[13:45] <MasBlaMan> nooo no bad stick
[13:45] <lion42> lol
[13:45] <MasBlaMan> it works in win
[13:45] <wols> MasBlaMan: ignore hwilde, he's wrong
[13:45] <escott> MasBlaMan, run PAE or run 64bit
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: as you've been told, either run 64bit ubuntu or run the pae kernel
[13:46] <MasBlaMan> but its strange
[13:46] <usermanager> will linux update manger  resume when internet connection disconnected ?
[13:46] <maptz> I have an issue with my samba bdc. When I try to obtain the domain sid or join the domain my server answer : Unable to find suitable server for domain 'MYDOMAIN'.    My pdc is wins server in his subnet and my bdc is wins client of my pdc but in another subnet
[13:46] <escott> MasBlaMan, I gave you an explanation
[13:46] <hwilde> If you are running 32bit you should see up to 3G of ram.
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: no it's not strange but normal. if you run 32bit windows it will be exactly the same. if you run 64bit windows you can use all your ram. Same on Linux
[13:46] <Tophen> I am on a MacBook that was given to us by our school. For reasons, I cannot access steam on Windows. I am running Linux off a disc. I'm planning on burning a new boot disc to boot it up, and I want to use my 500gb EXT HD to store my files. I am hoping that I will be able to run Steam Games on Play on Linux (I was told numerous times that it was easily done {I just want to play source games [definetely work]})
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: in ubuntu you have the additional choice to run a pae kernel, something you can't do on windows
[13:46] <leifmadsen> morning all!
[13:47] <escott> hwilde, thats not true, as the video ram has to be addressable and the addresses are reserved
[13:47] <wols> hwilde: not if his videocards use 2GB of it
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> but isn't 32 able to se 3GB 3*1
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> see
[13:47] <Tophen> My question is: What fs should I format my 500gb external hard drive to if I want to transfer games between windows and linux.
[13:47] <freeze> hey i really got a problem here
[13:47] <sudokill> Tophen- ntfs
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: NTFS
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> thx escott but that was not the question
[13:47] <escott> MasBlaMan, it has to be addressable. after the video card uses up 2gb of addresses there are only 2gb of addressses left. in addition the kernel reserves a bit for itself that "disappears" but is in fact being used
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: windows is dumb and can't access too many file systems
[13:48] <zykotick9> MasBlaMan, memory on video cards is not treated the same as system memory, you won't see video RAM in "free" for example
[13:48] <Tophen> Ok. Thanks much.
[13:48] <freeze> hey please can anyone help me?
[13:48] <lion42> you need special tools to read ext4 on windows, but not to read ntfs on linux, afaik.
[13:48] <wols> Tophen: you will need to use ntfs which is suboptimal but the only real choice for interchanging files
[13:48] <sudokill> and they sucj
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> freeze: ask and see
[13:48] <sudokill> k
[13:48] <dvdr> I'm trying to get dhcp working in ubuntu. There are various guides, but I'm a bit confused by the difference between dhcp, dhcp3 and isc-dhcp. I'm not sure where the config files should be, there are several directories that relate to dhcp. My installed package is isc-dhcp. How should I start the dhcp daemon?
[13:48] <escott> !help | freeze
[13:48] <MasBlaMan> oh i understand escott
[13:48] <Tophen> Now, I'm in disk utility. I just stuffed this up before. What should do from here?
[13:49] <Tophen> To format into NTFS.
[13:49] <sudokill> Tophen- in mac or ubuntu?
[13:49] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  running ubuntu 11.04 x64 on thinkpad t420.  when i suspend; the computer DOES wake up; but i end up having to use a different tty to run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" as gdm doesnt seem responsive.  anyway to fix?
[13:49] <MasBlaMan> can i disable one video card so i can use the 3GB
[13:49] <Tophen> Ubuntu
[13:49] <maptz>  I have an issue with my samba bdc. When I try to obtain the domain sid or join the domain my server answer : Unable to find suitable server for domain 'MYDOMAIN'.    My pdc is wins server in his subnet (192.168.56. ) and my bdc is wins client of my pdc but in another subnet (192.168.46.). How can I solve my resolution name issue? i suppose it's the main issue
[13:49] <escott> dvdr, i think isc-dhcp is the standard version to install if you want to have a dhcp server
[13:49] <wols> Tophen: but you cannot install linux itself on NTFS however
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> lion42: there is www.fs-driver.org    not sure if it does ext4 yet though
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: format it to NTFS in Windows.Much easier
[13:49] <freeze> i wanna go back tomy linux mint server but i cannot look up the hostname it fails there evreytime
[13:49] <dvdr> escott:thanks.
[13:50] <wols> Tophen: I'd suggest to create 2 partitions on the ext hdd. one, a say up to 50GB for Ubuntu itself, and another one with the rest for ntfs
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: you can add commands and such to the thaw / wakeup
[13:50] <leifmadsen> perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way, but I want to add a repository to my Ubuntu 10.04.3 system from the Debian packages site so I can install some packages, but perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way.
[13:50] <ChickenHawk> maptz: are you able to successfully get forward and reverse lookups from the bdc?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> freeze: Mint isn't supported here
[13:50] <xangua> leifmadsen: not good idea
[13:50] <xangua> !mint | freeze
[13:50] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, commands such as?  i mean i shouldnt have to restart gdm on every laptop wake up should i?
[13:50] <Tophen> @wols: I can't really have the ext hd as the boot disc.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: no idea, maybe
[13:50] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, :(
[13:51] <wols> Tophen: I don#t ask about the boot disk. I ask where Ubuntu / will be
[13:51] <Tophen> That's why I'm having a cd to boot and storing my files on the ehd.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: what make and model is the system?
[13:51] <leifmadsen> xangua: ok, then I may just have to build my own packages
[13:51] <freeze> ya ya i tried it but its taking forever
[13:51] <Tophen> Umm on the disc? Sorry I'm not great with this.
[13:51] <Tophen> I'll store ubuntu on a disc or usb.
[13:51] <Tophen> The files, however (games and stuff) will be on my ehd.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: make a small partition to hold ubuntu (about 20Gb is plenty) then use the rest as NTFS
[13:51] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420  (2520 processor; 8gb of ram; 4gb swap)
[13:52] <freeze> i got into Xchat tab > network list >and then i chose linux server but it is not working
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: you don't have enough swap
[13:52] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, but i'm not running hibernate
[13:52] <wols> Tophen: you don't want to have everything on a CD. you will need to be able to install updates
[13:52] <Tophen> Why would I need to hold Ubuntu on it again?? Sorry  I'm a bit confused.
[13:52] <phillyj> I finished making the 200gb EXT4 partition and I see it on the bar graph but in the list of devices the ~400gb left over is listed unusable
[13:52] <lion42> freeze, type control t then /server irc.servername.whatever
[13:52] <phillyj> did I do something wrong?
[13:52] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, just suspend... with suspend i didnt think swap was used
[13:53] <wols> Tophen: cause an OS needs to have userdata and updates. if you put everyone on a CD you can't do that
[13:53] <wols> s/everyone/everything/
[13:53] <Tophen> Ok. How do you guys suggest I boot into Ubuntu? I don't have access to the BIOS.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/pm-utils/+bug/625364
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: you will have a button at boot to select the booting device
[13:53] <ChickenHawk> maptz: what is the result of forward and reverse DNS lookups from the bdc...does it resolve both ways?
[13:53] <Tophen> Ok... I'm going to have a think about that.
[13:53] <wols> Tophen: you load the kernel from a CD or whatever but have your root partition on writable media.
[13:53] <Tophen> When will this happen ActionParsnip?
[13:54] <sudokill> Tophen- when you boot up on most comps theres an F button to press to choose the dev to boot from
[13:54] <wols> Tophen: this is however an advanced installation
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: right at the very VERY beginning of powerup
[13:54] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: if you use pm-utils doesit work ok?
[13:54] <maptz> ChickenHawk: I try
[13:54] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, I dont know how to run pm-utils; is that covered in the bug link you sent?
[13:55] <Tophen> But Action, I don't get an option. This is a school MacBook.
[13:55] <lion42> i think this is excessively complicated for tophen. they can cont to boot ubuntu from whatever works and format the whole drive to ntfs.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: possibly, look into pm utils and you'll get a command to suspend. See if it works that way
[13:55] <lion42> problem solved.
[13:55] <Tophen> Yeah sorry guys, I'm still learning this stuff and it's really hard for me to understnad.
[13:56] <Tophen> The only ways I can boot into ubuntu is to remove the internal hd every boot.
[13:56] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[13:56] <Tophen> Or to have a cd/usb (does the usb work?) in at boot.
[13:57] <wols> lion42: he cannot really install steam onto a ubuntu live cd, can he?
[13:57] <maptz> ChickenHawk: name query failed
[13:57] <wols> lion42: especially including the games
[13:57] <Tophen> That's what I mean! :)
[13:57] <phillyj> is it only possible to have 4 partitions on the hdd? Since the big partition became unusable, should i delete the one i created and quit this for now?
[13:57] <ChickenHawk> maptz: DNS is broken then
[13:57] <Tophen> I need to boot up with one thing.
[13:57] <ChickenHawk> Add it to DNS
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: sure and they can all be primary partitions too
[13:57] <Tophen> And store my files on the other.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: deleting and recreating will destroy the data
[13:58] <lion42> wols: he can install it on the usb cant he?
[13:58] <wols> Tophen: yes. kernel on a CD, / on a external hdd
[13:58] <ChickenHawk> maptz: Do you have admin rights on the DNS server?
[13:58] <Tophen> How about this guys: A cd to boot and my EHD to hold the files.
[13:58] <wols> lion42: can he boot from usb hdd?
[13:58] <maptz> ChickenHawk: we use Wins to resolve local name
[13:58] <wols> Tophen: can you boot from EHD?
[13:58] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[13:58] <Tophen> I don't think so.
[13:58] <ChickenHawk> maptz: Add the BDC to DNS
[13:58] <Tophen> Should I try?
[13:59] <lion42> yes
[13:59] <sudokill> Tophen- you can boot from livecd yes...
[13:59] <Tophen> I CAN boot from the LiveCD.
[13:59] <Tophen> It's automatic.
[13:59] <wols> sudokill: and how is he to play his steam games from livecd?
[13:59] <sudokill> i dont know
[13:59] <escott> phillyj, you can have more than 4 partitions but 5,6,7 etc have to be extended partitions inside a primary partition
[13:59] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: I don't think there was anything in there
[13:59] <wols> sudokill: I noticed
[13:59] <sudokill> just saying, you can boot from a livecd
[13:59] <sudokill> lol
[13:59] <sudokill> and use a data drive for files
[14:00] <wols> sudokill: but that doesn't solve his problem
[14:00] <Tophen> This is my proposition: I'll burn a CD for boot and contain my files on an EHD?
[14:00] <Tophen> Sound good?
[14:00] <sudokill> no
[14:00] <Tophen> Why not?
[14:00] <sudokill> because whenever you reboot, all the settings will be gone
[14:00] <sudokill> what "files"?
[14:00] <Tophen> I guess so... :(
[14:00] <sudokill> data, or programs?
[14:00] <phillyj> why did i get an unusable device?
[14:00] <Tophen> Like my games and steam.
[14:00] <maptz> ChickenHawk: Ok I'll see that
[14:01] <sudokill> Tophen- even if it does work itll be a complete pita
[14:01] <Tophen> And sudokill, if it comes to that I'll just do it anyway.
[14:01] <Tophen> Here's what my brother told me.
[14:01] <ChickenHawk> maptz: by the way, WINS isn't going to be happy talking to your SAMBA server, WINS is for Microsoft products (or Microsoft's version of NetBIOS)
[14:01] <sudokill> Tophen- i dont see what you're trying to achieve
[14:01] <Tophen> ok, i'll explain
[14:02] <Tophen> I want to run games on linux (don't ask me why).
[14:02] <Tophen> I don't have a choice.
[14:02] <sudokill> with wine yes?
[14:02] <Tophen> Yes.
[14:02] <sudokill> why not just install ubuntu?
[14:02] <ChickenHawk> maptz: are you just referring to your machine running WINS as a DNS server?  i.e., do you actually have a DNS server running?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: some will run, soe won't
[14:02] <Ramses> something wrong with webirc
[14:02] <Tophen> Action, the only games I want to run are supported anyway.
[14:02] <Tophen> TF2 and CSS etc.
[14:03] <Tophen> Only source games.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: then use Ubuntu oly :)
[14:03] <Lafiir> I am testing my Pidgin libnotify plugin. Can someone send me a PM, please?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: yo
[14:03] <Ramses> I was taliing about qwebirc
[14:03] <Tophen> Oly?
[14:03] <sudokill> only
[14:03] <Lafiir> thanks
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: only ;) typo
[14:03] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, so sudo pm-suspend appears to wake computer up correctly.  is there a way to change the command on the power drop down (top right of 11.04) to run sudo pm-suspend instead of whatever it does now?
[14:03] <Tophen> haha i wasn't sure if that was a special edition
[14:03] <Tophen> Sorry bout that :)
[14:03] <maptz> ChickenHawk: I'm referring to my PDC only, I ask to my sysAdmin and we just have a wins server
[14:04] <Tophen> But now onto my main problem
[14:04] <Tophen> I have an empty 500gb ext hd.
[14:04] <ChickenHawk> maptz: You'll need your sysadmin to run a true DNS server to get the functionality you want
[14:04] <Tophen> I'm currently running off a live cd
[14:04] <Tophen> I don't have access to the BIOS.
[14:05] <juan__> hey
[14:05] <maptz> ChickenHawk: So no machine with DNS server. It should work with wins, when you look at samba-doc they said samba wrk well with wins
[14:05] <Tophen> I want to either: Store linux AND my games on my EHD OR Have linux on a cd/usb and my games on my EHD.
[14:05] <ChickenHawk> Once your bdc and resolve (both ways, forward and reverse lookups) to the pdc then you're all set.
[14:05] <sudokill> Tophen- whats stopping you installing ubuntu?
[14:05] <sudokill> i really fail to see the problem
[14:06] <sudokill> you're in the livecd already...
[14:06] <ChickenHawk> maptz: idc what the doc says, if you're having that much trouble with it, clearly it's an advanced feature for you and the easier route would be (not surprisingly) the standard route -- use a DNS server
[14:06] <ResQue> hey
[14:06] <Lafiir> Great, Pidgin libnotify worked on the first message and not on the second, now I have to figure out why.
[14:07] <Tophen> Ok I think I got it.
[14:07] <earth_pker6> can anyone help me ?  i cant disable the shadows @ the windows
[14:07] <ChickenHawk> earth_pker6: turn on a desk lamp
[14:07] <ChickenHawk> lolcat, sry couldn't help myself
[14:07] <Obama> ChickenHawk: ?
[14:07] <lolcat> ?
[14:08] <lolcat> ChickenHawk: I don't understand1
[14:08] <earth_pker6> o
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> how the hell did lolcat get in there?
[14:08] <lolcat> I live here
[14:08] <lolcat> I am an expert on debian
[14:08] <h00k> !ot | ChickenHawk, lolcat
[14:08] <surfdue> How do I change the init config for apache?
[14:08] <surfdue> It is using the wrong version
[14:08] <escott> !ccsm | earth_pker6
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> nopf, no, lolcat was a typo, i wasn't talking to lolcat
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> lol
[14:09] <lolcat> h00k: I've been her longer than you. But I answer politley to any questions asked
[14:09] <ChickenHawk> I've got an autocorrect on I think
[14:10] <surfdue> lolcat: then answer mine ;)
[14:10] <Coelho_Silva> Hi there, my hard drive just died. I would like to know how to make a bootable usb with the drivers I will need for my wireless. Thanks for the help!
[14:10] <maptz> ChickenHawk: Ok, thx I'm going to find information to implements my samba domain with dns resoltion until wins
[14:11] <ChickenHawk> maptz: there ya go :)
[14:11]  * ChickenHawk cheers for maptz
[14:11] <wols> surfdue: not enough info given
[14:11] <arooni-mobile> so sudo pm-suspend appears to wake computer up correctly.  is there a way to change the command on the power drop down (top right of 11.04) to run sudo pm-suspend instead of whatever it does now?
[14:12] <surfdue> wols: which apache2 thinks its in /usr/sbin/apache2 but its really in /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
[14:12] <koopa58> Can I save the output of a command to a variable in a bash script?
[14:12] <escott> Coelho_Silva, usb-creator-gtk will help you create the basic liveusb. you can then install your wireless drivers the normal way. just make sure that your liveusb is configured to save changes after a reboot
[14:12] <wols> surfdue: if you install your own unsupported apache, I suggest you install your own upstart job for it too
[14:12] <escott> koopa58, foo=`echo bar`
[14:12] <tcsadmin> /SET VERBOSELEVEL=2
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: i didnt do this, i just want to fix it
[14:13] <Coelho_Silva> escott: sweet! now how do I configure for the save changes after a reboot?
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: can you guide me to fix it please
[14:13] <koopa58> escott: Ah, so simple, thanks! =)
[14:13] <wols> surfdue: the real fix is to run the ubuntu supported apache2. which I guess it does just fine...
[14:13] <wols> surfdue: no
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: least ou have a workaround til you can tweak the menu
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: how would i do that?
[14:13] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, yes thank you for that
[14:14] <wols> surfdue: do what?
[14:14] <escott> Coelho_Silva, when you open usb-creator-gtk do NOT click the discard changes after shutdown and make sure to have some reserved space for your own files and documents (you will need that to install the drivers)
[14:14] <surfdue> wols: just move the apache httpd.conf file over to the default ubuntu apache2 package and start
[14:14] <surfdue> i believe that would work
[14:14] <image_q> hi, I am trying to install a program in limux 10.4 and have dependency issues with libpq5 and libpq-dev. I tried looking around but it seems like verion 9.0.1 was the last version they released this lib in. I tried compiling the newest version through rpm, but that proved useless as well. any help? http://pastebin.com/9tgHEuiy
[14:15] <image_q> I am on ubuntu 10.4
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> escott: Thanks! I really apreciate the help!
[14:15] <sveinse> Hi. How can I setup a manual network on eth0 in nm? I've added a network connection for eth1 but the "wired network" is grayed out. I have link an everything, but nm refuses to see it
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> exit
[14:15] <sveinse> FYI I'm connected to the net using wireless
[14:15] <wols> surfdue: possible but unlikely. ubuntu doesn't erally use httpd.conf anymore. just look at your /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> oops forgot the foward slash..
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> thanks again!
[14:16] <wols> sveinse: added it how?
[14:16] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: are you opposed to doing via CLI?  Network Manager isn't the best in the world ya know.
[14:16] <koopa58> escott++
[14:17] <Tophen> Ok I'm 99% ready. Just one more thing.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: i'd use /etc/network/interfaces to define the wired network and let network manager deal with the wifi
[14:18] <Tophen> Action?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: sup?
[14:18] <phillyj> i just deleted the 200gb EXT4 partition and but the 600gb is still unusable but I got some options when I click it
[14:18] <sveinse> ChickenHawk: I could, but using /etc/network/interfaces would otherwise disable NM, and for 90% of the time I'm happy with handling it automatically via nm. It's convenient that its available graphically
[14:18] <Tophen> Ok, last thing before I do this. When I'm installing linux to my ehd.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: it would only stop network manager being able to manage the wired connection, not ALL connections
[14:18] <Tophen> I'll just first go on windows and format it to NTFS?
[14:19] <Tophen> Or should I save half for EXT4?
[14:19] <surfdue> wols: my boss did this.. its a mess -.-
[14:19] <phillyj> It says I can choose "Primary" or "Logical" , partition size, Location for the new partition
[14:19] <wols> Tophen: what have you decided to do? cause you cannot install ubuntu to a ntfs partition
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: yes but install it only to a portion of the available space so that you can install ubuntu to the remaining space. The default is 100% which you don't want
[14:19] <surfdue> wols: if this was not production id remake the entire thing
[14:20] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: my only suggestion is that if NM isn't propely roaming or connecting to your desired WLAN, then manually configuring via CLI is your only option.
[14:20] <sveinse> wols: Edit connections -> Wired -> Add. Connection name: "eth0 192.168.111.1". Insert the NICs MAC address. IPv4 settings -> add proper settings. Available to all users unckeck. Save.
[14:20] <phillyj> I wonder if I messed up my hdd now the part of the dick says unusable
[14:20] <phillyj> disk*
[14:20] <sveinse> ChickenHawk: Wlan works perfectly. I'm trying to configure a small local LAN on wired, not wireless
[14:20] <maptz> ChickenHawk: lol
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: are you installing the games in Linux or WIndows?
[14:20] <Tophen> Ok. I'm going to be using this HD to store some steam games and stuff. It's going to be mainly for ubuntu but with transfers for windows and ubutntu.
[14:21] <Tophen> I'm installing them in Linux.
[14:21] <Tophen> I have 500gb space.
[14:21] <Tophen> How much should I use for each side?
[14:21] <wols> Tophen: forget for a change your games and such. the question right now is: where are you trying to install your ubuntu?
[14:21] <gabel_>  ImageMagick: I know this isn't a new topic, but how can I install ImageMagick without X11-common using apt packet manager??? I search my a** off on google... :D
[14:21] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: sry I misread that
[14:21] <Tophen> My EHD.
[14:21] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone. I need to know if after installing Ubuntu, I will still be able to read my second NTFS hard-drive, which contains my medias (music, videos, etc).
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: then you'd need to look at the space used by the games then add some space for other junk. The Ubuntu OS is very small compared to fat dumb windows
[14:21] <gabel_> on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server 64bit
[14:22] <wols> gabel_: why is having x11-common so bad?
[14:22] <Tophen> I'm going to be using about 100gb space for the games.
[14:22] <gabel_> coz it is a Server
[14:22] <gabel_> ?
[14:22] <Tophen> How much should I use for ubuntu?
[14:22] <Tophen> the whole remaining 400gb?
[14:22] <gabel_> and just for ImageMagick i don't want to install the whole X-package
[14:22] <wols> gabel_: and?
[14:22] <ChickenHawk> AliaRNL: yes, Ubuntu can read NTFS
[14:23] <wols> gabel_: x11-common != xorg
[14:23] <gabel_> i know
[14:23] <theadmin> AliaRNL: Ubuntu can read NTFS trough ntfs-3g, however please note it has issues and reading speed isn't too good
[14:23] <wols> Tophen: 50GB max for ubuntu
[14:23] <gabel_> @wols but why there are such 117 dependencies for ImageMagick :D
[14:23] <tensorpudding> Tophen: you can get by with much less
[14:23] <Tophen> ok. will do.
[14:23] <tensorpudding> Tophen: 20 gb at most
[14:23] <wols> gabel_: tons of image formats supported. including things like xpm
[14:23] <gabel_> wols: incredible... :d
[14:23] <Tophen> I know but why not! :)
[14:24] <AliaRNL> Thank you. Is there anything better I could do ?
[14:24] <Tophen> I won't use the whole 500gb.
[14:24] <gabel_> hmm
[14:24] <Tophen> I'll just sed 50gb for ubuntu
[14:24] <gabel_> ok ill give it a try on the dev system
[14:24] <wols> gabel_: disable recommends maybe
[14:24] <Tophen> So basically. 50gb EXT4 for ubuntu and 450gb NTFS for windows --> linux transfers?
[14:25] <Tophen> Where will I store my games?
[14:25] <phillyj> guys, if I choose to do automatic install, will ubuntu wipe away all the partitions, including the windows part?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: canI borrow you in PM real quick please?
[14:25] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: 50 GB for / is overkill
[14:25] <gabel_> wols: thx for the response...
[14:25] <Tophen> Really?
[14:25] <Tophen> HOw much should I use?
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: / can live and have more then plenty of room to grow on 8-10 GB
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> ChickenHawk: if /home is part of / then it's plenty
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Yeah, keep /home separate
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> for sure
[14:26] <Tophen> ok so i've gone from 50gb to 20gb to 8-10gb
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: as long as / is by itself, it's fine
[14:26] <wols> ChickenHawk: why would he want to keep it separate?
[14:26] <czz> HelloWorld321, can anybody recommend a program that uses desktop support or remote sharing?
[14:26]  * szal wouldn't go under 10 GB for /
[14:26] <safire_> http://pastebin.com/ECDWU2ij <--- We have a script for updating our own repository for custom packages we need to install and we use this script to do so. My problem with it is that it copies all the .debs each time it runs. This is a problem because we have a 1.3gb matlab installation. I'd like to change it so i only does a specific .deb, but I'm not really sure where to start looking to understand the process. Any tips?
[14:27] <czz> As to teach somebody something over the screen of their pc.
[14:27] <Tophen> i have no idea how to keep them by themselves.
[14:27] <Tophen> and  I'm not even sure what / is.
[14:27] <ChickenHawk> wols: it's best practices, you should always keep / separate from stuff like /home
[14:27] <wols> czz: vino as server and and vnc client as client
[14:27] <Tophen> Alright, I've decided.
[14:27] <bashelina> PRINTER::.  How do you find out what printer driver is being used ???
[14:27] <Tophen> Give me opinions on this.
[14:27] <wols> bashelina: localhost:631  in a browser
[14:27] <ChickenHawk> wols: for example, if /home and / are on the same partition, and you fill up the partition, then guess what?  the os no longer boots.
[14:28] <wols> ChickenHawk: wrong
[14:28] <ChickenHawk> prime example
[14:28] <szal> ChickenHawk: if / is on its own partition and runs full, you have the same problem ;)
[14:28] <Tophen> Out of 500GB: 20GB for Ubuntu EXT4 and 480GB for Windows ---> Ubuntu storage NTFS.
[14:28] <Tophen> Good?
[14:28] <mina2> I made a file with extension .desktop and put it under /usr/share/applications. Why it doesnt show in the panel menu?
[14:28] <szal> ChickenHawk: the point of keeping /home separate is that it's way easier to reinstall that way
[14:28] <phillyj> can someone guide me thru setting up the partitions in ubuntu setup OR give me a link to any documentation?
[14:29] <theadmin> phillyj: I could try
[14:29] <mini_> mini
[14:29] <theadmin> phillyj: Depends on your wish
[14:29] <mina2> I made a file with extension .desktop and put it under /usr/share/applications. Why it doesnt show in the panel menu?
[14:29] <ChickenHawk> szal: there are several reasons to keep them separate, for you its ease of re-install, for me is system stability.
[14:29] <escott> phillyj, i believe it would. if you have any doubts do the manual partitioning
[14:31] <phillyj> guys, I see a device listed "Free space" and when I click it, it says I can choose "Primary" or "Logical" , partition size, and Location for the new partition
[14:31] <theadmin> phillyj: Primary, size - any you wish, location - /
[14:31] <Tophen> I'm going to try it! Wish me luck guys!
[14:31] <mang0> Guys, I need to write a document in libreoffice that can be opened in word. If I save it as a .doc with that work? Or does it need to be something else
[14:32] <phillyj> theadmin: the location is either "begining" or "end"
[14:32] <theadmin> phillyj: Ah... uh, what?
[14:32] <theadmin> mang0: You need to choose "Microsoft Office 97/2000/XP" format when saving
[14:32] <theadmin> mang0: That's all
[14:32] <mang0> theadmin: thankyou
[14:32] <phillyj> theadmin: its just 2 radial buttons that say "begining" or "end"
[14:33] <escott> phillyj, you can click and drag the endpoints of the rectangle in the image
[14:34] <image_q> hi, I am trying to install a program in limux 10.4 and have dependency issues with libpq5 and libpq-dev. I tried looking around but it seems like verion 9.0.1 was the last version they released this lib in. I tried compiling the newest version through rpm, but that proved useless as well. any help? http://pastebin.com/9tgHEuiy
[14:34] <phillyj> escott: there is not image
[14:34] <phillyj> i'm installing ubuntu and stuck on the partitions page
[14:35] <escott> phillyj, the diagram of the disk and its partitions above with the new partition in a different color box. you can drag the sides of that box
[14:36] <orzel111_0> serwus
[14:36] <escott> phillyj, i could be wrong and just remembering gparted. in either case if you want to use all the free space take END up to the max and Beginning to the lowest possible value
[14:36] <bashelina> wols, ok cool.. where do I change printer driver.... ??
[14:37] <phillyj> escott: i see an image of line of squared and now its mostly grey boxes with and orange box at the end
[14:37] <phillyj> i can't change it
[14:37] <wols> bashelina: localhost:631
[14:37] <bony> what is the audio device in 11.04? the requirement is that previously if want to use the audio device file i was using /dev/dsp but now i am unable to figure out the audio device file.
[14:37] <supermarket> привет
[14:37] <alter> ураааааааааааа
[14:37] <bony> in nutshell what is the replacement for /dev/dsp
[14:37] <alter> дщщщщщлждблдль
[14:38] <wols> bony: nothing, cause /dev/dsp is still there and needed for older software
[14:38] <wols>  /dev/snd/pcm I guess is what you are after
[14:39] <bashelina> wols, modify printer asks me for login user and password ......
[14:40] <escott> bashelina, does your username/password not work
[14:40] <escott> phillyj, i think that orange box is your new partition and that you can drag the sides of it to resize
[14:40] <bony> wols, yeah you are right some software require dsp. these are the files in my /dev/pcm by-path  controlC0  hwC0D0  hwC0D1  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer
[14:41] <wols> bony: what ubuntu version?
[14:42] <bony> wols, oops sorry. I need to admit this is on debian
[14:42] <phillyj> escott: it won't let me click it
[14:42] <phillyj> ok, so i click the device "free space" and select the option "Primary", set the size, set location as "begining", use as EXT4 BUT what do i use for "mount point"
[14:42] <yuka> installing nvidia gfx drivares on ubuntu 11.04 is a nightmare dang
[14:42] <bony> wols, but i think both work the same way if i am not wrong for at least this problem?
[14:42] <escott> phillyj, you have to have a "/" for starters
[14:43] <bashelina> escott,  username:  root and corresponding password worked :)
[14:43] <pinkpuff> I have a widescreen monitor but the OS seems to think it's a regular 4:3 screen
[14:43] <phillyj> escott: so i use the first one which is the "/"?
[14:43] <tsuke> ever since the upgrade gnome crashes when I log in. not even magic keys seem to work. since the desktop is responsive for 4 or 5 seconds, I am guessing some program gets started that causes it. how can I find out who is the perpetrator?
[14:43] <escott> phillyj, if you only have 1 partition it must be "/"
[14:44] <tsuke> i am on enlightenment now, and when i start gnome-session in a terminal, it does not show error messages, just crashes after a few seconds as well in the same way
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tsuke: does it happen as another user?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> pinkpuff: what video chip do you use?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[14:45] <escott> tsuke, you could try removing items from gnome-session-properties until you find the one that makes the problem go away
[14:45] <tsuke> ActionParsnip: I will try now. If not, can I edit by hand what runs on login?
[14:45] <Guest31643> trying to connect usb net from terminal, but getting this error "(Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy)"
[14:45] <tsuke> escott: ah great that was my question
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> tsuke: sure you have the startup items manager
[14:45] <tsuke> I will try a different user now, thanks
[14:45] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[14:45] <phillyj> escott: ok, i did it but now, 400gb is unusable
[14:46] <jrib> khamer: can you provide more info?  Does it happen every 5 minutes? at login? when?
[14:46] <Tophen> Ok, For real this time. One final thing.
[14:46] <drampelt> hey i am having some issues with my ubuntu server; first sshd wouldn't start, then after a reboot nothing started up and after manually starting apache2 i cannot connect to my website even though i could before
[14:46] <Tophen> Do I download 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:46] <Tophen> My windows is on 64
[14:46] <escott> phillyj, is this your 4th primary partition?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: I'd go 64bit personally
[14:47] <khamer> jrib, well, I'm not sure if it is also happening at login, but ignoring that, it happens while I'm using the computer and logged in; I can change the settings with xmodmap and within... 10 minutes maybe, it'll switch back
[14:47] <phillyj> escott: i think so
[14:47] <Tophen> ok.. will it make much of a diff?
[14:47] <jrib> khamer: I see.  What version of ubuntu?
[14:47] <phillyj> escott: i'm not sure how to do it otherwise
[14:47] <Lafiir> How can I change the icons shown in the program switcher (alt+tab)?
[14:47] <escott> phillyj, i think what is happening is that you have three partitions 1,2,3 and then you are creating a 4th primary partition but your free space is non-contiguous so the 4th can fill the drive. since you can only have 4 primaries what remains is now unusable
[14:48] <paddyohgrind> hye all
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, oneiric, but I have had this problem since natty
[14:48] <paddyohgrind> im newbie
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, or rather, including natty, I didn't have this setup before then
[14:48] <jrib> khamer: let's move to #ubuntu+1
[14:48] <khamer> \join #ubuntu+1
[14:48] <hermanus> unity-2d-places seems to have a memory leak. It takes 380 mb after a couple of hours of use. what steps do i take to create a usefull error report?
[14:48] <escott> phillyj, what you should do is (a) quit the installer. (b) go to the livecd and start gparted. (c) move the partitions so that there is no free space between 1,2,3 and put 4 at the end and make it use the entire free space (or make it a logical partition to contain extended partitions)
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, sure
[14:49] <phillyj> ok, i will try
[14:50] <escott> phillyj, before you start moving partitions we should verify that they can safely be moved, which means identifying what their contents are. it should be safe to move a windows partition, but you should probably make a backup first
[14:51] <image_q> does anyone know how to install libpq-dev on ubuntu 10.4 64bit?
[14:52] <phillyj> escott: everything backed up, this is a new laptop and i made a recovery disc just in case
[14:53] <Guest31643> Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[14:54] <matheus__> Hello everybody
[14:55] <matheus__> Does anybody there?
[14:55] <T1m310rd> yeah
[14:55] <matheus__> ok! lets go
[14:55] <matheus__> I get a new problem with my ubuntu 10.04
[14:56] <T1m310rd> and it is
[14:56] <T1m310rd> ?
[14:56] <T1m310rd> ?
[14:56] <matheus__> I can login, but I cant execute any task]
[14:56] <Sp4rKy> you can't ?
[14:56] <matheus__> Firefox dont work,
[14:56] <matheus__> Exactly,
[14:56] <Pici> !doesntwork
[14:56] <Sp4rKy> "I can't, don't work, I have problem" is not enough
[14:57] <Sp4rKy> :)
[14:57] <escott> matheus__, sounds like a library issue. ctrl-alt-f1 login there and then try apt-get --fix-missing?
[14:57] <matheus__> OK ok,
[14:57] <crusade_suckatal> :D
[14:57] <matheus__> Let me talk man,
[14:57] <matheus__> I will be explain it
[14:57] <escott> !oneline | matheus__
[14:57] <Pici> !enter | matheus__
[14:57] <escott> Pici, thanks
[14:57] <Pici> escott: np :)
[14:58] <mehrab> join #kubuntu
[14:59] <Zimsky> How do I connect to something started with gnu screen?
[14:59] <ikonia> Zimsky: screen -r
[14:59] <herkupus> Zimsky: you mean   screen -r  ?
[14:59] <escott> matheus__, another thing to try if apt-get --fix-missing --fix-broken doesn't do anything would be to try and start an xterm in you gui (ctrl-alt-f7 then hit the windows key then type xterm and press enter). in that xterm you should be able to type firefox-bin. if there is a missing library it should say so in the error messages
[15:00] <matheus__> So I login on my Ubuntu 10.04, when I login, appears a windows asking me about the power management. If I want to kill it, or proceed. I wait a second, and the ubuntu logon. But, in the desktop no task can be improved.
[15:00] <sda> hi all, i have to copy multiple folders, but if i copy paste one and then other it will copy them all at the same time, i would like to copy the second folder just after copy the first one and so on, how can I? on windows we have teracopy on ubuntu?
[15:00] <tsuke> I found the problem: its gnome-do. There is an exception and it looks like there is a infinite loop in Mono.Addins.Serialisation.BinaryXmlReader.Skip. When the stack reaches the maximum depth the kernel seems to die.
[15:00] <matheus__> Sorry, bad english, Im a student from Brazil
[15:01] <matheus__> And so, all the tasks I want to execute dont wotk
[15:01] <matheus__> work*
[15:01] <escott> sda, why do you care about the copy order, its probably faster to do both at the same time. you can do it from a terminal by typing cp file1 folder; cp file2 folder
[15:01] <iceroot> !bug | tsuke
[15:01] <phillyj> escott: the box looks like this: unallocated (1mb), ntfs(199mb), ext4(194gb), unallocated(390gb), ntfs[Recovery](14gb), fat32[HP tools](103mb)
[15:01] <matheus__> Any Ideas?
[15:02] <tsuke> ubottu: Im reporting it at the moment
[15:02] <crusade_suckatal> i want to ask, can facebook chat use on xchat?
[15:02] <Zimsky> Yeah, I have a screen on 6011.tty2.ubuntubox
[15:02] <phillyj> escott: i have to move the first ntfs and the ext4 into the end?
[15:02] <matheus__> Anybody?
[15:02] <escott> phillyj, so you could grow that ext4 to be 194+390 and leave only 1mb unusable. or you could make the 194+390 into a logical partition and have as many extended partitions inside it
[15:02] <Zimsky> How do I connect to that?
[15:02] <escott> phillyj, ... as you want
[15:02] <sda> escott, yes i could do with CLI with ; or &&, but if I do it with mouse i cannot, and no it's not faster read not consecutive sectors on the hard drive and make the harddrive jump some for the first folder some for the other, less file i copy at the same time faster it goes
[15:03] <herkupus> Zimsky: screen -r 6011.tty2.ubuntubox    (or -rd ...)
[15:03] <Guest31643> escott: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[15:04] <matheus__> escott, I already try to use apt-get on tty1, but dont work
[15:04] <tsuke> One more general question: Short of reinstalling a system, is there a way to revert an installation to a vanilla state? Only default programs and settings
[15:04] <phillyj> escott: how exactly do i know it is at the end and that the spaces are filled?
[15:04] <escott> sda, unless you are copying to a different drive you are already jumping to write the data out. in any case. i don't know of any nautilus preference for this. you might check gconf-editor
[15:05] <popey> tsuke: not really
[15:05] <escott> phillyj, take END up to the max. the partition has to be contiguous. so make beginning as small as possible and end as large as possible and you will have filled the entire contiguous space
[15:05] <sda> escott, different drives :) yes i know about nautilus, i though maybe it can exist a different software to do that
[15:05] <tsuke> Thank you
[15:05] <r5g> hello
[15:06] <matheus__> escott, i believe that problem it's very simple to solve, can help me?
[15:06] <Zimsky> Err, can someone help?
[15:06] <escott> matheus__, ctrl-alt-f7 and hit the windows key (between ALT and ctrl left of the spacebar) then type xterm. it should highlight the xterm application. see if that will start for you
[15:07] <herkupus> Zimsky: did you see my message?
[15:07] <r5g> is there any app that i can use to restrain some programs to connect to the internet in Ubuntu ? whenever i want to go anonymous, i've to stop them using System monitor. Isn't there a program for that ?
[15:07] <matheus__> escott, thank you, i'll try.
[15:07] <Zimsky> Yes, but I don't actually know how to connect to an instance
[15:07] <herkupus> Zimsky: screen -r   or   screen -rd  didn't work?
[15:08] <Zimsky> No
[15:08] <herkupus> Zimsky: any error message?
[15:08] <escott> sda, if the reason you are doing this is simply speed I would (a) time it to verify it is in fact faster... im skeptical of that (b) use the cli anyways because it would be less overhead (c) consider using something like rsync
[15:09] <Zimsky> Let me try It agin
[15:09] <Quantum_Ion> Does anyone run Ubuntu linux on a laptop ?
[15:09] <Quantum_Ion> Do you find that Linux runs hot on laptops ?
[15:10] <dr_willis> Quantum_Ion,  totally depends on the laptop.
[15:10] <escott> tsuke, you can probably remove some files that list packages that were explicitely installed and then clean the system. google for ubuntu cleanup
[15:10] <escott> Quantum_Ion, try powertop
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> escott, I tried power top and laptop tools
[15:10] <Guest31643> Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[15:10] <tsuke> escott: great thanks
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I have a gateway laptop
[15:10] <Guest31643> escott: seems like i get different problems every day ..... ;)
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I hate gateway ever since they took over acer
[15:11] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I think acer and gateway produce the cheapest laptops out there
[15:11] <dr_willis> gateway makes a lot of laptops... :)    I got a Toshiba X505
[15:11] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, They say Toshiba's are long lasting
[15:12] <phillyj> escott: i extended the ext4 to take up all the free space next to it but after the ntfs boot partition and before the ext4, there is 1mb unallocated space
[15:12] <dr_willis> phillyj,  thats normal.
[15:12] <dr_willis> phillyj,  gotten to be a common practice these days.
[15:12] <escott> phillyj, and short of moving some partitions around (which is very time consuming) you won't get rid of that mb. just leave it
[15:12] <sda> escott, CLI yes is faster, i'm going to use that, but it is faster, especially with big files with consecutive sectors, i tried and studied it in computer architecture @ university, I only wanted to know if there was a program to do that! Anyway thanks!
[15:13] <html> Quantum_Ion,  maybe but my is crappy on the low to mid -range , and linux  is a little more pickyer
[15:13] <phillyj> escott: now i have no allocated space and the ext4 takes it all up so where would Windows save its files?
[15:14] <escott> phillyj, windows files are saved in the ntfs partitions
[15:14] <Quantum_Ion> html, Really unless you are doing high end graphics work, like 3D graphics with blender, you don't need much computing power nowadays, I would love to have a laptop with 12GB of ram in it
[15:14] <escott> phillyj, in particular that 199gb one
[15:15] <Quantum_Ion> Blender is really good on a Linux now you make all kinds of 3D graphics and animation it has an easier interface
[15:16] <phillyj> escott: hmm, u read tthat wrong, it is 199 mb boot partition
[15:16] <phillyj> escott: now i have not ntfs partition
[15:16] <escott> phillyj, then you did something to delete your windows partition and installation
[15:16] <Guest31643> friends, I got this, will this solve my problem ? http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html#ss15.12
[15:16] <dr_willis> Doh! :)
[15:17] <dr_willis> Guest31643,  do we know what your problem is? You may want to change to a Non-Guest Nick also...
[15:17] <phillyj> escott: can i just make an ntfs partition now and try to finx windows first?
[15:17] <html> Quantum_Ion,  im not talkining so much as soley on that ,  its just a crap shoot on my, like i need to mess with grub every time i do a install/dual boot..etc..
[15:17] <escott> phillyj,  unallocated (1mb) -- cant do anything about this, ntfs(199mb) -- windows boot, ext4(194gb) -- linux, unallocated(390gb) -- windows was here, ntfs[Recovery](14gb) -- rescue partition not the real os, fat32[HP tools](103mb) -- HP junk
[15:17] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, Have you ever heard of the MinGW project, now you install gcc and g++ on Windows Vista/7 it's great
[15:17] <escott> phillyj, no. now you get to test your restore tools
[15:17] <dr_willis> Quantum_Ion,  i dont have much need for it. :)
[15:18] <Guest31643> dr_willis:  Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy
[15:18] <escott> phillyj, the windows restore stuff should reset the drive back to its factory layout
[15:18] <Quantum_Ion> html, That's the problem with Grub 2 it is kind of difficult to use
[15:18] <phillyj> escott: ok, cool, then i'll come back later and figure this out
[15:19] <adamcj> can you help me with registring my accout?
[15:19] <escott> phillyj, given the layout they have from the factory it may be easier to put linux where the Recovery and HP Tools partitions are
[15:19] <escott> !register | adamcj
[15:19] <dr_willis> Its gotten to a point with new Windows Laptops. I just buy a 2nd laptop hd for it. to put linux on. :) and then get windows on to it if i need. and keep the original safe.. seems faster/easier then messing with backup/restore media.
[15:19] <adamcj> escott do i just write that here?
[15:20] <adamcj> btw this is my first ever time on linuis
[15:20] <dr_willis> But my last laptop i did that.. went to change out HDs  then realized it had a slot for a 2nd hd. :)
[15:20] <adamcj> !register | adamcj
[15:20] <Quantum_Ion> html, A funny thing happened to me with Windows, my Windows filesystem became so corrupt, that I had to re-install Windows Vista, however Windows didn't over right Linux, which was weird
[15:20] <adamcj> ubottu how do i do that?
[15:20] <escott> adamcj, if you can do it out of channel in the "freenode" channel that would be preferred
[15:21] <adamcj> okay i will but again how
[15:21] <adamcj> can i have steps
[15:21] <Guest31643> :)
[15:21] <Quantum_Ion> the great thing about ubuntu linux is no damn viruses what so ever
[15:21] <stephan> hey guys last few minutes i started a low-performance game and switchted from fullscreen to windows-mode.  ubuntu freezed ; i could kill the process but the graphic-interface was freezed. so i had to restart. what should i do? i have often the problem that my ubuntu freezes
[15:21] <escott> adamcj, please see the link in the messages ubottu has sent you
[15:21] <Quantum_Ion> I never had a virus on Linux which caused me to reinstall Ubuntu Linux
[15:21] <matheus__> escott, i can enter in the xterm terminal, but i still can't run any application
[15:21] <stephan> i have read that i should watch the var/log/syslog but i dont know where i could find any hints for my problem
[15:21] <escott> matheus__, thats good. type firefox-bin and it should spit out a bunch of error messages
[15:22] <escott> matheus__, sorry just firefox
[15:22] <Quantum_Ion> Windows is a different story, seems like every year I end up reinstalling Windows Vista for some odd reason, something always gets corrupted
[15:22] <auronandace> Quantum_Ion: do you have a support question?
[15:22] <matheus__> escott, i try to use apt-get to install elinks, but after i type the command and hit enter, nothing appear in terminal.
[15:23] <escott> matheus__, one problem at a time, please.
[15:23] <escott> stephan, its likely some issue with the graphics card drivers. what graphics card do you have
[15:24] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, Do you know you can make a portable installation of Ubuntu Linux on a usb hardrive, and walk up to anyonws Windows computer and you don't even need to know their password and access their filesystems it's great
[15:24] <matheus__> escott, ok! i'll try now. waiting for me.
[15:24] <matheus__> thanks
[15:26] <alexxio> hi
[15:28] <alexxio> after some driver (ati card?) or something wrong i did, my ubuntu starts without the tray bar and without the possibility to hit alt+f2 to run programs, i remember that i uninstalled unity because of poor system performances and after that my gnome doesn't work no more...can you please help me reconfiguring it as default?
[15:28] <GreenCloud> alexxio: hello
[15:28] <a111> Whats that package that makes linux servers show up in windows network view
[15:28] <escott> !samba | a111
[15:29] <adamcj> #rooms
[15:29] <ThinkT510> alexxio: you shouldn't uninstall unity, its built ontop of gnome
[15:29] <ThinkT510> !classic | alexxio
[15:30] <alexxio> doh! ok
[15:31] <matheus__> escott, when i type firefox in the xterm terminal, nothing appear... when i type firefox in tty1, the message appear: can't set display.
[15:32] <escott> matheus__, we know its not going to do anything in the tty1. does it say anything in the xterminal?
[15:34] <matheus__> escott, yes, nothing, i typed firefox and hit enter, and the pointer down a line, it's only... nothing happening.
[15:35] <escott> matheus__, odd. lets try something simpler. gnome-terminal
[15:35] <dvdr>  on natty, ive setup hostapd as per http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd. I am using a wireless card with the b43 linux driver. I am trying to connect to that using an android tab. When I run hostapd, the tab sees my new wireless network. However, when I try to connect, it says "connected" for about 5 seconds then it continuously reconnects, staying connected for about 5 seconds then reconnecting again. In the meantime, I don't appear to be conn
[15:38] <matheus__> escott, tty1 is a gnome-terminal? i can use the tty1, tty2, but when i run any command, nothing hapenning, the pointer down a line and stay there... tty7 is that the problem... after logon, i receive a message about the power-manager its not respond... i wait... and can logon... but i can't do anything...
[15:39] <escott> matheus__, stop using tty1 use the xterm. im hoping to get an error message from within x as to why your gui apps aren't working
[15:39] <matheus__> something happenings with xterm..
[15:40] <matheus__> escott, undestand, what i do now?
[15:40] <nkh> hello , I have an Ubuntu arm port installed on my flash and I had the .ICEAuthority problem, I could not boot into root on my arm based device and chown this file and I want do it with my Laptop, but chown does not recognize the user , I lloked at the help, seem chown --reference==RFILE should help but I didn't figured out which file to use instead of RFILE, which file contains users and Qroups? /etc/passwd didnt work :(
[15:40] <nkh> looked*
[15:41] <escott> matheus__, when you run "gnome-terminal" in your xterm does anything happen
[15:44] <Obfuscation> anyone available for help with an error on dependencies in Natty?
[15:45] <nkh> !ask Obfuscation
[15:45] <Obfuscation> Every time I try to install Eclipse through Ubuntu Software Center, I get an error saying that some dependencies will not  be met, and aren't installable. I looked, and found a reported bug, but it said the fix was to use Software Center
[15:45] <escott> !anyone | Obfuscation
[15:46] <Ramses> ubuntu works on an 386 machine?
[15:46] <Obfuscation> I  only ask so people that may be able to help with the problem will know to look for the screen name, and not have to run their eyes all over a screen wondering who they may be able to help
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:46] <dcg> nkh: if you know what permissions the file needs to have, just use "chmod u=rw .ICEAuthority" for example. then also do the same for chown. eg: "chown yourusername:yourgroup .ICEAuthority"
[15:46] <escott> Obfuscation, my personal opinion is that its not worth installing eclipse through apt because it just makes the plugins that much more difficult to work with. but you might try installing through apt and seeing what exactly is missing
[15:47] <dcg> you don't actually have to use a reference file, to be honnest I have only ever used it in specialised scripts, never from the command line.
[15:47] <sw0rdfish> hey guys will it be ok if I download the 2.3.3.deb package of krita for 11.04 into a 10.10 OS FROM here --->  http://pkgs.org/package/krita
[15:49] <Lafiir> Obfuscation: I fount out that Software Center also says this when installing a package requires removing another one. Try it in Synaptics to see if this is the case.
[15:49] <Penguin> zec0 online?
[15:49] <edbian> sw0rdfish: Just use the 10.10 package they provide on that page.
[15:50] <sw0rdfish> the new version has a lot more brushes and plugins ...etc thats why I'm asking :)
[15:50] <szal> sw0rdfish: how about upgrading your KDE to Natty level from kubuntu-backports?
[15:50] <Seven_Six_Two> is it just me, or are there problems with power management in 11.04 recently? I'm having trouble with shutdown and reboot (from menu) and also with suspend. shutdown/reboot just goes to a black screen sometimes and I have to hard reset b/c nothing else does anything. Suspend suspends, but sometimes resumes to a text screen with errors. Unfortunately I didn't write them down...
[15:50] <escott> dcg, he seems to have logged off
[15:50] <sw0rdfish> szal, I'm on gnome actually
[15:50] <matheus__> escott, i'll try now type gnome-terminal
[15:50] <matheus__> wainting for me.
[15:50] <cordoval_> I have a /etc/init.d/vnstat script . How can I make it so that it runs at boot start up?
[15:51] <uriel_> hey can someone help me? im using an HP computer and 11.04 isnt playing nice with it, no right click
[15:52] <dr_willis> HP makes a large varity of computers.. give details...
[15:52] <Seven_Six_Two> uriel_, what input device are you using?
[15:52] <[HzF]Rocker> Hey, how can i get the stupid wifi working? - i have latest ubuntu and latest driver, but the Connect button is greyed out :(
[15:52] <uriel_> its a pavilion dv5 with that new touchpad
[15:52] <escott> uriel_, does xev show a right click. open a terminal, type xev. when you click in the box you should see text in the terminal
[15:53] <lion42> [HzF]Rocker, what wireless card? Was it previously working in ubuntu?
[15:53] <uriel_> ill try that escott
[15:53] <cordoval> I am reading sudo update-rc.d, is that the only option to run a script at start up, mine is /etc/init.d/vnstat
[15:54] <dr_willis> cordoval,  the update-rc.d is the old sysv method. Ubuntu uses Upstart. so that is NOT the only option to run stuff at boot time.
[15:54] <gimpy1672> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice on 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a http redirecting service to bypass router restrictions
[15:54] <dr_willis> cordoval,  one way. commands in /etc/rc.local    or make a upstart script in /etc/init/
[15:54] <uriel_> @escott no it doesnt show, however if i drag right  bit as i do it it does show up.
[15:54] <Pici> lotuspsychje: That doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question.
[15:54] <[HzF]Rocker> it has been working way back, but it was almost a year ago, and back then i had ubuntu 10.04, which i lost, 10.10 don't work with the wifi either
[15:54] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, you could use tor
[15:55] <cordoval> dr_willis: thanks, is upstart available on the repos i guess going to check now. The script is already in /etc/init.d/vnstat
[15:55] <Ramses> may I install it in a 486 then?
[15:55] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart is the default...
[15:55] <dr_willis> !upstart
[15:55] <escott> uriel_, thats xev showing you the drag event a click event consists of a KeyMapNotify and a ButtonRelease event
[15:55] <uriel_> ill check it.
[15:56] <Ramses> please, do it
[15:56] <uriel_> txev
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: tnx for hint, would vpn for ubuntu do that too?
[15:56] <[HzF]Rocker> What can i do about my issue?
[15:56] <uriel_> xev
[15:57] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, it could, but vpn wouldn't be the easier of the two.
[15:57] <uriel_> @escott yes it does register.
[15:57] <cordoval> dr_willis: but it is not installed by default on ubuntu natty right?
[15:57] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart is the Default init system.. its replaceing sysv.
[15:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, all you need is a proxy. If you need the resources on another network, or you want your browsing to be done through a consistent and known network, then vpn would be better
[15:58] <dr_willis> cordoval,  your old sysv scripts are actually getting ran by some Upstart scripts.
[15:58] <Lafiir> I need more help regarding libnotify-pidgin. I just does not work in IRC when set to "Only new Conversations". Most irritating is, I had one successful event earlier but I don't know why. Ideas?
[15:58] <escott> uriel_, "it does register" you mean you are seeing KeyMapNotify and ButtonRelease when right clicking the touchpad? are they events different from when you left click
[15:58] <dr_willis> cordoval,  in each new release, sysv slowly fades out a little more :)
[15:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, otherwise, just use Tor with a browser button or vidalia
[15:58] <cordoval> dr_willis: i took vnstat from the repos, sudo apt-get install vnstat, and installed default, so
[15:59] <cordoval> it is not my script but I am pretty sure it is the old way of running the daemon then
[15:59] <theadmin> Lafiir: Probably ask in #pidgin
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: tnx
[15:59] <cordoval> so i guess I should assume that upstart is installed on my ubuntu
[15:59] <Guest8005> hey anyone can help me to use wifi in my acer laptop
[15:59] <dr_willis> cordoval,  actually that SysV.# script  may be a link to a /etc/init/ script.. but ive  totally missed the actual problem by now... :)
[15:59] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, if it's just for one website you could also use a web-based proxy like proxify.com or ninjaproxy.com
[16:00] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:00] <edbian> Guest8005: yeah.  What card do you have?
[16:00] <Ramses> did someone know of a ubuntu release compiled with the Intel optimized compiler?
[16:00] <Guest8005> its laptop
[16:01] <Guest8005> how can I find which card is being used???
[16:01] <edbian> Guest8005: Yes, I know.  What card do you have?  (sudo lspci | grep Network   will tell you)
[16:01] <Guest8005> pls wait
[16:01] <uriel_> escott, it seems to be the same as a left click. i can rightclick if i drag the mouse right as i right click, but not by simply pushing it as usual
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> Havent been here so long
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> I have written dvd with brasero but windows cant read it
[16:01] <edbian> Guest8005: waiting...
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: the proxy websites are also blocked by the linux router restrictions (hotspot provider)
[16:02] <Obfuscation> @AlexDevilLX: I had a similar problem and someone  told me to make sure the disk was "finalized"
[16:02] <[HzF]Rocker> Hey! - I'm stuck with a problem here :o
[16:02] <escott> uriel_, ok. a forum posting mentioned this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/utouch. i don't know whether or not this would work for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674153
[16:02] <Guest8005> it doesnt gave any output
[16:02] <Juandev> hello guys
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> how to make it finalized?
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> heh i'm a noob
[16:03] <Juandev> I am looking for bubuntu iso bootable any link?
[16:04] <cordoval> i did initctl list | grep vnstat and it is not there
[16:04] <tsimpson> Juandev: what is "bubuntu"?
[16:04] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, if you're at a hotspot, you can probably set manual dns servers for that hotspot. edit the connection, change auto dns to google's public dns servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[16:04] <Juandev> tsimpson: heh sorry, thats a different tribe
[16:04] <Ramses> hello Juandev
[16:04] <cordoval> after reading upstart i don't get it how to simply just run this daemon at start up
[16:04] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, you might have to reconnect to the hotspot (not sure)
[16:04] <cordoval> dr_willis: you confused me
[16:04] <[HzF]Rocker> Anybody able to help me? - I wanna use wifi >.<
[16:05] <Guest8005> hey its not gave any result
[16:05] <uriel_> escott, ill give it a shot thanks!
[16:05] <escott> cordoval, probalby easier to look at the upstart jobs in /etc/init/
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: i hear good things about mullvad too for ubuntu (swedish vpn)
[16:05] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:05] <cordoval> escott: i remember you
[16:05] <cordoval> escott: you mean init.d and not just init
[16:06] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart uses /etc/init/   sysv uses /etc/init.d/
[16:06] <escott> cordoval, no i mean /etc/init/*.conf
[16:06] <cordoval> oh !
[16:06] <Guest8005> Hey ED pls help me...
[16:06] <cordoval> so my daemon script is currently in /etc/init.d/vnstat
[16:06] <dr_willis> Look in the directories.. most of the init.d/whatever files are links to init/upstart  scripts
[16:06] <cordoval> no wonder, so I perhaps need to move it to /etc/init/
[16:06] <cordoval> oh ok now it makes more sense
[16:07] <dr_willis> cordoval,  dont be trying to bypass things like that.. :)
[16:07] <cordoval> bypass?
[16:07] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, maybe, but if you just need to get to sites blocked at a public hotspot, setting your own dns will probably do the trick. It depends on the talent of the person setting it up  ;)
[16:07] <cordoval> not sure what you mean be clear please
[16:07] <escott> cordoval, you shouldn't move it. but if you want it to be an upstart job and not an sysv init script you could rewrite it as an upstart conf file
[16:07] <dr_willis> explore how the files are linked and stuff.. dont be moving stuff from init.d to init.
[16:07] <tbearden> Need some assistance... whenever i try to reboot my system, it just hangs, but it works properly when i shutdown
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: its pretty talented because its a linux restricted hotspot with lotta proxy's added to restrictions
[16:08] <dr_willis> cordoval,  perhaps its time to go back and restate the Original Problem...
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: any url you know of that could bypass such?
[16:08] <cordoval> escott: that makes more sense, so a rewrite is a lot of work since it is a long script
[16:08] <tbearden> using ubuntu 11.04
[16:08] <cordoval> escott: perhaps i should explore how a link is done
[16:08] <tbearden> brand new install
[16:08] <cordoval> I just need to run /etc/init.d/vnstat whenever i turn on my computer
[16:08] <tbearden> i have SSD drive if that makes a difference
[16:09] <dr_willis> cordoval,  call it from /etc/rc.local is one way... 'service vnstat start'  is one way....
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> tbearden: wich ssd slc or mlc an brand pls?
[16:09] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:09] <dr_willis> cordoval,  not the 'best' way. but a way. :)
[16:09] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, but they might only be blocking the dns requests. The Starbucks and Coffee Culture I go to both filter sites with DNS. By not using their dns, nothing is blocked, and then I use a proxy or Tor for privacy
[16:09] <wrongturn> do old apps work with gnome3? i can't find cheese locate will find folder but where is the app?
[16:09] <cordoval> dr_willis: that is what i was looking for actually
[16:09] <Guest8005> r u der ed
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: nice, tnx for the trick mate
[16:10] <tbearden> lotuspsychje: ATA Samsung SSD PM81, revision AXM0
[16:10] <dr_willis> cordoval,  alternativly make a link from /etc/rc3.d/S##vnstat that points to /etc/init.d/vnstat
[16:10] <propman> wrongturn:  try    which cheese
[16:10] <cordoval> did ack-grep 'init.d' . and nothing on the init directory
[16:10] <cordoval> so no links
[16:10] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, np.
[16:11] <cordoval> /etc/rc3.d?
[16:11] <Guest8005> oooook thax bye
[16:11] <dr_willis> cordoval,  thats the sysv method.. each runlevel has a rc#.x dir
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> tbearden: did you try sudo reboot in terminal, see what is does?
[16:11] <wrongturn> propman the camera cheese program if that helps
[16:11] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> lmpolù$µ
[16:12] <cordoval> dr_willis: tell me more about the simple method rc.local
[16:12] <propman> wrongturn:  in terminal type the following:    which cheese      that will return the directory where cheese is installed
[16:12] <dr_willis> actually i think runlevel '2' is the ubuntu default isent it? not 3.
[16:12] <soidexe> hey there! why some checkboxes in Update Manager are disabled? it's "Complete Generic Linux kernel" package and related packages. Why can't I install them?
[16:12] <dr_willis> cordoval,  whats to tell.. its a file with a list of commands... go edit it.. :)
[16:13] <dr_willis> cordoval,  be sure your commands are befor the last 'exit 0' command.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> lmpolù$µ
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> 17
[16:13] <wrongturn> /usr/bin/cheese
[16:13] <escott> !runlevel | dr_willis
[16:13] <tbearden> lotuspsychje:  I just ran "sudo shutdown - r now".  hangs on "asking all remaining processes to terminate... own...locess (2073) kiled by TERM signaled by TERM signaller/server
[16:14] <tbearden> lotuspsychje:  this is also x64 and not x32
[16:14] <Juandev> how to find out wrong driver on Windows XP, when booting Ubuntu?
[16:14] <escott> dr_willis, ie until you go tweaking your rc's i think it boots to 5 but runs the same stuff as 1,2,3,4
[16:14] <cordoval> you mean bashrc
[16:14] <propman> wrongturn:  paste /usr/bin/cheese into terminal and see if cheese comes up
[16:14] <escott> dr_willis, i take that back it does boot to 2 nm
[16:15] <dr_willis> escott,  but if one was to add their own custome script.. should it go in rc2.3 rc3.d or.......
[16:15] <wrongturn> propman k
[16:15] <escott> dr_willis, presumably 2 and up
[16:15] <guru_> hey edbian I got card name its "Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC"
[16:15] <t4nk451> xrandr --newmode... returns, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default. How can I fix this?
[16:15] <dr_willis> escott,  seems weird it would run every script in every runlevel....   unless theres some magic goin gon.
[16:16] <guru_> edbian::::::::: I got card,,, its "Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC" next what to do????
[16:16] <wrongturn> propman yep thx that's a start
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> µtbearden: might check logs for any services that wont shutdown?
[16:17] <propman> wrongturn: yw
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: I have to go :(  ask in the channel! :D
[16:17] <escott> dr_willis, i think you can jump runlevels. to go from 2 to reboot you don't have to go up to 5 you can jump 2->6 so i think a normal boot jumps 0->2
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: Look it up here: http://linuxwireless.org/
[16:17] <escott> dr_willis, therefore if you wanted a process to run at levels above 2 you would need it in all runlevels above 2
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: run dmesg and look at what it says about your wifi card
[16:18] <dr_willis> escott,  right. its  how they are configured that makes them all the same..   each is an identical copy of the others.
[16:18] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, are you manually specifying a gamma triplet in that command?
[16:18] <AlexDevilLX> Ok
[16:19]  * dr_willis wonders why *root* keeps changeing nicknames..
[16:19] <t4nk451> Seven_Six_Two: I'm not sure what you mean, here is my command: xrandr --newmode "1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[16:19] <sveinse> I have a network adapter which I am unable to get to work. If I run "ip addr show dev eth1" it returns "2: eth1: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000". It seems the eth link is down, yet the link leds on the nic adapter sais there is link. What can I do?
[16:20] <dr_willis> BBL.
[16:23] <mgolisch> sveinse: this just means the device state is down
[16:23] <mgolisch> sveinse: you didnt configure nor bring the device up
[16:23] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, I don't use xrandr, but the man page says --gamma red:green:blue  where rgb are floating point correction values. I presume 0:0:0 or 1:1:1 would be "no correction"
[16:23] <Layke> I just installed Ubuntu from the website, Iḿ using it as a desktop for development. 1) How can I get sound to work? 2) How can I get my second monitor to work in Unity?
[16:23] <sveinse> mgolisch: How? ip link set eth1 up ? Doen't help anything
[16:24] <escott> Seven_Six_Two, i would try 0.5:0.5:0.5
[16:24] <mgolisch> sveinse: what does it say?
[16:24] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, escott's msg was for you...  :)
[16:25] <sveinse> mgolisch: Nothing. Returns success
[16:25] <linux> hi
[16:25] <escott> sveinse, then ifconfig should show it as being up
[16:25] <AlexDevilLX> Ok
[16:25] <guru_> oook thanx
[16:26] <mgolisch> sveinse: next would be adding an ip address and setting a route
[16:26] <sveinse> escott, The status line shows that the ip link set sets the device to UP (within the < >), while the actual state is DOWN
[16:26] <tbearden> lotuspsychje: which log should i start looking in?  i looked through dmesg and didn't find anything useful for this issue
[16:26] <sveinse> mgolisch: I've done that, I just didnt verbose it here
[16:27] <t4nk451> Seven_Six_Two: The reason why I want to use xrandr is to set my dpi. X11 initialized my dpi to be, 3x0, which is incorrext. Do you know any way I can fix this?
[16:27] <sveinse> escott: Everything seems normal from ipconfig.
[16:27] <mgolisch> sveinse: check dmesg then
[16:27] <escott> t4nk451, i think you can just call xrandr -dpi have you looked at the man page
[16:28] <sveinse> However, strange enough, ethtool eth1 returns No such device
[16:28] <t4nk451> escott: I have, xrandr --dpi 96 gives me the same error
[16:28] <Seven_Six_Two> tbearden, are you mounting from another pc with nfs?
[16:28] <damagednoob> i'm trying to get my networking working. i can resolve dns correctly and ping addresses but i can't download a webpage. can anyone help me?
[16:29] <damagednoob> i've set a static ip via /etc/network/interfaces
[16:29] <escott> t4nk451, what kind of graphics card is this?
[16:30] <mgolisch> damagednoob: did you set a gateway/route?
[16:30] <damagednoob> i haven't no
[16:30] <mgolisch> sveinse: did you google? maybe its a known problem with that card/chip
[16:30] <damagednoob> i've set a Gate in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:30] <damagednoob> Gate = Gateway
[16:30] <tbearden> Seven_Six_Two:  this is an ubuntu 11 setup, not NFS, it's using ext4
[16:30] <damagednoob> but nothing in iptables
[16:30] <mgolisch> thats okay
[16:30] <sveinse> mgolisch: I could seems like it, yes. Thanks anyways
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> damagednoob, can you load a webpage using the site's ip address?try 72.14.207.99 in your browser
[16:31] <Layke> Dual monitors possible in Unity?
[16:31] <mgolisch> damagednoob: so you can resolve dns hosts? and you can ping them?
[16:31] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yes
[16:31] <escott> Layke, yes but its not particularly configurable
[16:32] <damagednoob> Seven_Six_Two, I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 server in a vm so i'm using wget
[16:32] <Arney> An update killed Unity, now I get 'Unsupported hardware' msg. Where Should I look to fix it.
[16:32] <damagednoob> my host operating system can navigate to ubuntu.com
[16:32] <t4nk451> escott: lspci gives me "VGA compatible controller: VMware SVGA II Adapter"
[16:32] <Layke> escott: Is it obvious how to get my second monitor enabled? Cause I can see the option.
[16:32] <Seven_Six_Two> tbearden, I use 11.04 on my laptop, and ext4 as well, but when I mount a share from my desktop and shut down, it seems my wireless disconnects before my nfs shares can unmount, and it messes up shutdown or reboot
[16:32] <mgolisch> damagednoob: so your problem is downloading something using wget?
[16:33] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yes, that's how i'm testing my access to the internet
[16:33] <escott> t4nk451, does the vmware driver support xrandr fully?
[16:33] <mgolisch> damagednoob: what error does it give?
[16:33] <matheus__> escott, after type gnome-terminal and hit enter, one screen white appear, but is a screen white, a little high that xterm, not appear nothing to type... just screen white big...
[16:33] <damagednoob> mgolisch: Connecting to 72.14.207.99:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[16:34] <damagednoob> hmm, i can't access that from my desktop browser
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> damagednoob, I got that from pinging google. you might get different results from your own ping
[16:35] <t4nk451> escott: I don't know, how can I check?
[16:35] <escott> matheus__, ok hit ctrl-c to kill that terminal then type "ps aux | grep compiz | grep -v grep" and see if anything prints out
[16:35] <escott> t4nk451, check the vmware website?
[16:35] <damagednoob> this is what i get when i wget google: http://pastebin.com/9Bzxg4pZ
[16:35] <geordiejohn> hello i am using Ubuntu 11.04 and i need an application to use my Kindle any ideas please?
[16:35] <matheus__> escott, ok!
[16:36] <Seven_Six_Two> geordiejohn, I would suggest calibre
[16:36] <tbearden> Seven_Six_Two:  in this case, yesterday, when I noticed the issue, i had mounted a folder via SSHFS, but today I totally reloaded the OS, haven't loaded the SSHFS folder, and am still having the issue.  it only happens when i reboot, not when i shutdown
[16:36] <geordiejohn> i tried calibre but it does not see any of my books or even charge the kindle
[16:37] <mgolisch> damagednoob: this is a vm?
[16:37] <cubuntu> geordiejohn: Have you tried running the official Windows application using Wine?
[16:37] <mgolisch> damagednoob: maybe your networking is broken or configured wrong
[16:37] <t1me10rd> stuck in tty, when i go to gui unity is stuck not loading
[16:37] <Ramses> what version of ubuntu should I install?
[16:38] <geordiejohn> no i hoped there would be one for linux
[16:38] <Seven_Six_Two> geordiejohn, the software has nothing to do with charging (or shouldn't), and kindle uses drm, so books on there might not be manageable without their software. You could maybe try to run the windows version with wine, but that option wouldn't be supported here
[16:38] <damagednoob> mgolisch, maybe, but i don't understand why i can ping external sites and resolve dns
[16:38] <cubuntu> Amazon don't offer one, I suggest using the official Windows application. You can easily pirate Windows XP etc. in a separate partition
[16:39] <mgolisch> damagednoob: what type of networking did you configure?
[16:39] <geordiejohn> ok i will try wine,thank you
[16:39] <t1me10rd> sorry i missed some, what's wrong?
[16:39] <Seven_Six_Two> cubuntu, please don't advocate software piracy in here.
[16:39] <Ramses> I never saw a pirated windows...
[16:39] <RobinJ> help? Google Chome suddenly takes up to about 90% CPU
[16:39] <p1l0t> Is the 'For Purchase' software still open source? I would still pay for it, I'm just curious if its still.. kosher so-to-speak
[16:40] <cubuntu> Seven_Six_Two: My apologies
[16:40] <mgolisch> RobinJ: you on some flash page?
[16:40] <RobinJ> yes, and flash also doesnt work correctly anymore
[16:40] <t1me10rd> there's a free os, i forget what's called, but it lets u use windows applications. kinda reversed engineered windows
[16:40] <cubuntu> p1l0t: Not all of Ubuntu is even open source, so you're using the wrong distribution if you want to be truly FOSS...
[16:40] <mgolisch> RobinJ: probably related to flash then
[16:40] <t4nk451> escott: looks like vmware doesn't support xrandr fully
[16:40] <mgolisch> flash sucks
[16:40] <RobinJ> i have to refresh pages 5 times sometimes before i get the actual image/animation/... in stead of only the sound
[16:40] <Seven_Six_Two> cubuntu, np.
[16:40] <t1me10rd> virtualbox
[16:40] <geordiejohn> quit
[16:40] <RobinJ> indeed, but youtube uses flash ;p
[16:40] <RobinJ> so do a lot of other sites
[16:41] <Kyle__> RobinJ: Some javascript heavy pages can do that...
[16:41] <p1l0t> cubuntu: I would prefer to be FOSS, although I <3 Ubuntu
[16:41] <Layke> a
[16:41] <Kyle__> RobinJ: You can log into youtube and set your account to use html5 video instead :)
[16:41] <mgolisch> RobinJ: yeah still it never worked well for me on linux
[16:41] <RobinJ> i know
[16:41] <mgolisch> compared to mac or windows
[16:41] <damagednoob> mgolisch, I originally set it up as dhcp and am now trying to configure a static ip because this vm is going into production, my networking is here: http://pastebin.com/mGh1QBqM
[16:41] <RobinJ> but it doesnt solve the probmem for other websites
[16:41] <BluesKaj> RobinJ, sudo apr-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:41] <RobinJ> that doesnt work for google chrome, does it?
[16:42] <RobinJ> i had to use some kind of weird ppa for 64-bit flash for chrome
[16:42] <BluesKaj> apt-get RobinJ
[16:42] <BluesKaj> RobinJ, yes it does
[16:42] <mgolisch> maybe thats why
[16:42] <mgolisch> the 64bit flash is even worse
[16:43] <BluesKaj> I'm running 64 bit flash...works fine on chrome
[16:43] <mgolisch> damagednoob: is that bridged network?
[16:43] <safire_> http://brillig.cs.umd.edu/umd-csd-apt/ umdcsd/main csd-test amd64 1.0d <-- can anyone tell me why I'm getting 404 for this?
[16:43] <oledole2> Q: Is there a way to have data on a server that even root can't access? Im thinking something like an encrypted partition that only I can mount, providing a private key, or something?
[16:44] <safire_> I can see the .deb when I browse to it
[16:44] <safire_> yes.. full disk encryption
[16:45] <safire_> or partition or what have you
[16:45] <Kyle__> oledole2: Root will always be able to access the file and memory of the user, so even if you did an encrypted file, and didn't ever store the key on the drive, root would be able to peek at the mmemory.
[16:45] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i'm using hyper-v so the terminology is a bit different. they call it 'external' which translates to this: 'Creates a connection to a physical network adapter so that virtual machines can access a physical network.'. I'm pretty sure the answer to your question is yes though
[16:45] <safire_> if the key isn't in memory, it's not possible, even as root, is it?
[16:46] <cubuntu> safire_: No, it's not possible
[16:46] <crusade_suckatal> what the different between root and su?can anybody help me to explain
[16:46] <oledole2> but i guess once i log in an mount it, the root user will be able to access the data
[16:46] <oledole2> for as long as i mount it
[16:46] <seanmc98> hello, i was wondering how you make a .txt file in 11.04
[16:46] <mgolisch> damagednoob: maybe some firewall blocks your traffic
[16:46] <mgolisch> damagednoob: never worked with hyper-v
[16:46] <safire_> possibly, but I think you'd have to be highly skilled in order to do it
[16:46] <damagednoob> yeah, i think you're right
[16:47] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i just used wget to download from an internal web server using it's FQDN
[16:47] <damagednoob> and it worked
[16:47] <oledole2> Kyle__: tanks for the clarification, much appreciated
[16:47] <tbearden> seanmc98: nano /home/<user>/documents/document.txt
[16:47] <Kyle__> crusade_suckatal: su is a command to switch user.  Root is an account, the account that owns the OS to be exact.
[16:47] <sveinse> When looking at dmesg I see that the kernel finds eth0, but udev later renamed eth0 to eth1. How can I disable that rename?
[16:47] <tcsadmin> anyone by chance running a squid/dansguardian/clamav proxy server behind a cisco asa 5505?
[16:48] <Kyle__> crusade_suckatal: we kindof talk about them as if they are the same, becuase you can su to root (or sudo to root), to run commands as root.
[16:48] <tbearden> still need help w/ my system not wanting to reboot
[16:48] <Ramses> Kyle__ you really know about this subject
[16:48] <safire_> http://brillig.cs.umd.edu/umd-csd-apt/ umdcsd/main csd-test amd64 1.0d <-- can anyone tell me why I'm getting 404 for this when apt-get install csd-test?
[16:48] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_suckatal, root is a user (disabled in Ubuntu) that has admin rights. su is a command to switch users, sudo is a command to run another command with root privileges
[16:48] <tbearden> it will shutdown fine, but hangs on reboot
[16:48] <Kyle__> Ramses: A bit.
[16:48] <safire_> I see the .deb in the browser.. and I see it in Packages.gz
[16:48] <mgolisch> damagednoob: still that server has a different ip so it could still be some rule in your outbound firewall
[16:49] <crusade_suckatal> owh now i see. thank for the info.
[16:49] <tbearden> i'm not using wifi, just eth0, running ubuntu 11 x64, no mounted network drives
[16:49] <b_z_> hi i have sony fw laptop i can install ubuntu ?
[16:49] <linknn> Hello. I'm having trouble with some .doc and .docx documents on ubuntu 11.04. They contain images and libreoffice doesnt show them. Is that a security feature or a bug?
[16:50] <crusade_suckatal> can facebook chat use in XChat?
[16:50] <tbearden> hangs on reboot even if there is no network connection what so ever
[16:50] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yeah i agree with you
[16:50] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i'll speak to our ops guys about it. thanks for you help
[16:50] <Ramses> my software company may need your expertise
[16:50] <RobinJ> why am i suddenly getting an urge to cry out loud "UBUNTU SUCKS!"??
[16:50] <aibo> hi what does 'mountall: disconnected from plymouth' error means?
[16:50] <aibo> i am using ubuntu server with NO X
[16:50] <mgolisch> RobinJ: why do you?
[16:50] <RobinJ> on my desktop ubiquity just crqshed, qnd my lqptop just froze entirely
[16:51] <gimpy1380> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice 3.2.1.4 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[16:51] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, it's likely that you can. You can try it with the install disc before you install it, although some things won't be there, like some drivers (for licensing reasons)
[16:51] <b_z_> pls help me i have sony vaio fw 550 i can install ubuntu?
[16:51] <matheus__> escott, i typed "ps aux | grep compiz | grep -v grep"
[16:51] <matheus__> no list nothing.
[16:51] <RobinJ> honestly there isn't any decent os in existance at the moment
[16:51] <gimpy1380> RobinJ: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:52] <seanmc98> thank you tbe
[16:52] <seanmc98> tbearden, *
[16:52] <Ramses> this is not a secret RobinJ
[16:52] <Layke> When cycling between windows using alt tab.. is there a way to make the preview images larger?
[16:52] <tbearden> seanmc98: not sure what u mean by '*'
[16:52] <matheus__> escott, not listing. Not list nothing.
[16:52] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: tnx for awnser i install 10.10 or 11.04
[16:52] <b_z_> ?
[16:53] <seanmc98> tbearden, tyr
[16:53] <seanmc98> typo
[16:53] <escott> matheus__, so you must be running metacity, but you are getting white boxes for gnome-terminal and nothing for firefox
[16:54] <matheus__> escott, yes! when i can log, the wallpaper appears, the toolbars too, but i'm can't do nothing...
[16:54] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, I would recommend starting with the most recent LTS (10.04) if you're new
[16:55] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - i'm stuck :@
[16:55] <irrumator_> I'm having this issue whenever I try to sudo apt-get update now for some reason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:55] <irrumator_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:55] <tbearden> seanmc98: glad that helped.  you can also use vi or gedit or kate or which other editor you'd like to use.  if you like vi, then just do 'vi /home/<user>/Documents/document.txt'
[16:55] <irrumator_> I made sure that ubuntu software center and synaptic were closed too
[16:56] <manoelaugusto> oi bom dia
[16:56] <manoelaugusto> gastaria quem alguem me ajudasse
[16:56] <irrumator_> quit gnome-shell and when i do sudo apt-get update again, it doesn't prompt for password so maybe that's part of the problem?
[16:56] <oCean> !br | manoelaugusto
[16:56] <escott> matheus__, i wonder if you have a broken Xdamage extension or something like that. could you sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit" you can send us the link here and we can review the Xorg log
[16:57] <engammalsko> test
[16:57] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - i'm stuck :@
[16:57] <manoelaugusto> sou novo
[16:57] <smith_> I have done mistake deleting my Desktop folder using rm -rf /home/smith/Desktop so now I want to recover that folder . please anyone can help me to recover tha because I had most important folders in my Desktop
[16:58] <jrib> !recover | smith_
[16:58] <matheus__> escott, ok
[16:58] <jrib> smith_: if you don't have backups, take this as the moment you start keeping them
[16:59] <beehind> buzz
[17:00] <smith_> I searched some method and recover but all the files recoverd separately as their file type. so can I recover whole folder this way
[17:01] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - I still can't connect to any wireless networks
[17:03] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: so im install 10.10 lts?or 11.04
[17:03] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, 10.04 is the LTS version
[17:04] <anderson> hi
[17:04] <anderson> i need a help pleae
[17:04] <anderson> can some one help me ?
[17:04] <compdoc> maybe
[17:04] <Seven_Six_Two> !help anderson
[17:04] <anderson> i have ubuntu vps
[17:04] <Seven_Six_Two> !ask
[17:04] <anderson> i want how to install a web browser on it without need to install gui
[17:05] <matheus__> escott, i can't do run the command sudo apt-get...
[17:05] <matheus__> nothing hapennings...
[17:05] <llutz> !lamp| anderson
[17:05] <llutz> anderson: ah browser... forget it, i misread you
[17:05] <Pici> anderson: w3m is a cli browser that is already installed on Ubuntu Server.
[17:05] <xangua> there are terminal web browsers, but i don't remember ther inames
[17:05] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, that's funny. I misread it in the same way  :)
[17:06] <anderson> i didnt understand , i need a browser like mozilla chromium etc . but without need to install gui
[17:06] <dr_willis> lynx, links, w3m  xangua  :)
[17:06] <matheus__> escott, i typed sudo apt-get install pastbinit... the pointer down a line and nothing hapennings...
[17:06] <xangua> :)
[17:06] <Pici> anderson: How exactly do you plan to use those if you don't have a gui?
[17:06] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[17:06] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, do you access the vps with ssh?
[17:06] <ufrgs> I have a doubt here.
[17:06] <anderson> yes i can acces to it
[17:06] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: i fear for the graphics driver
[17:06] <anderson> on putty
[17:06] <dr_willis> anderson,  lynx, links, w3m,
[17:06] <abstrakt> anderson, um... you can't do that, i don't think
[17:06] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone, I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:07] <ufrgs> Where do I find better fonts instead of Monospaced one?
[17:07] <abstrakt> anderson, i mean, yes and no, I don't think any of those console based browsers will render graphics
[17:07] <dr_willis>  one of those had a graphical mode in the framebuffer ...  but been ages sicne i last used it anders_office
[17:07] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: and i close laptop dor restart ubuntu
[17:07] <ufrgs> Could someone help me please?
[17:07] <abstrakt> w3m supposedly can
[17:07] <abstrakt> it's still not quite what you think it is
[17:07] <xangua> ufrgs: software centre¿
[17:07] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  better then what?  what are you using the font for...
[17:07] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, ok, not sure about putty. with ssh command, you can use the -X switch to forward a window from one server to another. the server has to have X installed
[17:07] <anderson> so i cant install a browseer without install gui ? but i freind told me that i can but he didnt remember how
[17:07] <abstrakt> and it'll never render anywhere close to the "real" thing
[17:07] <crusade_suckatal> what software c++ compiler for ubuntu 11.04
[17:07] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install lynx
[17:08] <llutz> anderson: you'll need at least xorg-common + a xserver for windows running
[17:08] <abstrakt> anderson, lynx http://www.google.com/
[17:08] <dr_willis> anderson,  lynx, links, w3m,    <--- One of these had a 'framebuffer enabled gui' but its very moinimal.
[17:08] <Pici> dr_willis: You can't use framebuffer via putty.
[17:08] <abstrakt> dr_willis, w3m is the one with framebuffer
[17:08] <ufrgs> dr_willis, I use it as main system font and as text editor font as well.
[17:08] <crusade_suckatal> and what is X.org and its function?
[17:08] <anderson> can some one please go on private chat i can say what you write
[17:08] <ufrgs> xangua, and look for what?
[17:08] <dr_willis> Pici,  makes me wonder why he needs a browser on the server at all.. if he has a windows machine with putty...
[17:08] <abstrakt> lol
[17:08] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, xserver has to be available to forward the window, or you have to use a text browser like abstrakt and dr_willis mentioned
[17:09] <xangua> ufrgs: fonts¿
[17:09] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  i tend to use the droid sans font or ubuntu font for most all of my needs these days
[17:09] <ufrgs> Another question I have is concerned a Text editor, could someone recommend me a nice one?
[17:09] <abstrakt> crusade_suckatal, "x windows" as it is commonly called is the program that draws real graphics on your computer so you can have a "gui"... i.e. so you can have a mouse and a "desktop" and "windows" and "scroll bars" and all that good stuff
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_suckatal, gcc is the compiler
[17:09] <ufrgs> dr_willis, is it a default font or... ?
[17:09] <anderson> i need browser like mozilla or chromium , but my vps has only 128 mb so if i cant install gui
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> ufrgs, vim
[17:09] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  depends on your needs.. I tend to use geany as a  good editor.. but it pays to learn vi/vim
[17:10] <abstrakt> crusade_suckatal, it used to be called X11 now it's called X.org
[17:10] <irrumator_> I'm having this issue whenever I try to sudo apt-get update now for some reason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:10] <irrumator_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:10] <edbian> irrumator_: yes
[17:10] <irrumator_> I made sure that ubuntu software center and synaptic were closed too
[17:10] <abstrakt> anderson, what exactly do you need the browser for?
[17:10] <irrumator_> quit gnome-shell and when i do sudo apt-get update again, it doesn't prompt for password so maybe that's part of the problem?
[17:10] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  theres many extra fonts in the repos.
[17:10] <anderson> i need to enter to a website require flashplayer
[17:10] <ufrgs> dr_willis, I am not on 60's anymore... come on guys. I need a Texteditor with a graphic interface...
[17:11] <anderson> pinger.com
[17:11] <phillyj> hey guys, i want to retry installing ubuntu 10.04.3
[17:11] <xangua> anderson: and you want to do that with a browser and without gui....
[17:11] <irrumator_> edbian: so..you familiar with this problem and how to fix it?
[17:11] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  and i told you one.. and it IS worth while to learn VI/VIM.
[17:11] <tensorpudding> ufrgs: gedit comes with ubuntu, is it not satisfactory?
[17:11] <anderson> yes
[17:11] <tsimpson> crusade_suckatal: install the "build-essential" to get gcc and g++
[17:11] <ufrgs> dr_willis, and how do I find fonts?
[17:11] <phillyj> should i first use the live cd and make the partition with gparted and then install?
[17:11] <Seven_Six_Two> ufrgs, I understand, but again, it depends on your needs. and not learning how to use vim is something you will eventually regret. are you writing a letter? modifying config files?
[17:12] <tensorpudding> ufrgs: search the software center for fonts?
[17:12] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  open up the softwarecenter/package manager tools and search for 'fonts'
[17:12] <AliaRNL> I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:12] <abstrakt> anderson, and why do you need to enter that site FROM your VPS?
[17:12] <Pici> ufrgs: search for ttf in the repos, there are a number of them there.
[17:12] <dr_willis> !apt | ufrgs
[17:12] <edbian> irrumator_: yep
[17:12] <edbian> irrumator_: ps -e   lists all processes.  Do you see any dpkg, apt, aptitude, or synaptic processes running in that list?
[17:12] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  you can also download/install them to your personal .fonts dir from the web if you find any you like.
[17:13] <anderson> because of the ip + ... i need browse the website and auther website like paypal etc .. because i cant open paypal account on my country so i need enter from vps
[17:13] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/7-of-best-ubuntu-terminal-fixed-width.html
[17:13] <irrumator_> edbian: yeah, i grep'd for apt, aptitude, and synaptic. the only one that returned something was apt for:  5973 ?        00:00:00 update-apt-xapi
[17:13] <coraxx> dr_willis: I have a question for you...if you know VirtualBox :-) ?
[17:13] <llutz> anderson: easier to setup a proxy or a vpn on your vps
[17:13] <edbian> irrumator_: Kill it
[17:14] <edbian> irrumator_: I'm not really sure what it is.  Probably something to do with the gui update-manager
[17:14] <dr_willis> coraxx,  i know ive read its manual a few times... :)
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> hello it's me again
[17:14] <edbian> Tharlinn_: hi :)
[17:14] <dr_willis> coraxx,  ask and see. :) ive not used it much in ages.
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> i am trying to get 7.1 audio to work on my logitech g35 headset
[17:14] <anderson> i dont need vps or proxy because problem of coockies etc .. i need browse from the vps thats why i need browser
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> so far no questions though ;p
[17:14] <phillyj> the main problem i have with partitioning is that Windows already set up 3 partitions and the rest is part of the C:/ drive
[17:15] <coraxx> dr_willis: ok ... I can't seem to get the VRDP til work ...so I can't remote control the consoles of each started vm's on a server ...what am I doing wrong ?
[17:15] <edbian> phillyj: create an extended partition to hold all your ubuntu partitions.
[17:15] <irrumator_> edbian: great success :) thank you so much mon kapitan!
[17:15] <dr_willis> coraxx,  never used that feature. sorry.
[17:15] <edbian> irrumator_: sure
[17:15] <gimpy1380> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice 3.2.1.4 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[17:16] <phillyj> edbian: can i do that with gparted?
[17:16] <anderson> so ??
[17:16] <crusade_newbies> does linux need antivirus?. because i read some article saying that virus is nothing to linux.sorry for my bad english.
[17:16] <edbian> phillyj: yes, but you cannot edit a partition that is mounted so you may need to use a liveCD
[17:16] <dr_willis> crusade_newbies,  not really. Unless you want to scan your windows files for windows viruses.
[17:16] <coraxx> dr_willis: arrgh...ok :-) ...its the last bump on the road for me ...in order to have a completly free virtual-system ...running on Ubuntu server :-)
[17:16] <edbian> phillyj: Of course if you're partitioning now you probably dont' have Ubuntu installed :P
[17:17] <jita> What does cp -a do ? I read the man page but could'nt figure out, if anybody could show me by example ?
[17:17] <edbian> crusade_newbies: viruses are not an issue in linux
[17:17] <hwilde> jita, it copies all files (even hidden ones)
[17:17] <phillyj> edbian: can i boot up from the CD and run gparted w/o installing ubuntu?
[17:17] <coraxx> N E body outthere who ever got VRDP to work on VirtualBox ...and explain what the did to get it to work (besides from checking on the feature) ?
[17:17] <jita> hwilde: and the R switch doesnt copy everything ?
[17:17] <anderson> can some one help me ? the vps that i have has only 128 mb ram and i cant install gui on it but i need browser
[17:18] <edbian> jita: And it appears to keep permission info
[17:18] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, security is an issue, virii are not so much of an issue... regular users on linux do not have administrative privileges, so regular users cannot install programs in the system, so it's not very easy for a person to get a "virus" on a linux computer
[17:18] <edbian> phillyj: yes
[17:18] <hwilde> jita, R is for recursive, meaning it will include subdirectories
[17:18] <rumpe1> phillyj, yes (the option is called "trying" i guess)
[17:18] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, with that said, security is still a problem and people who are bad can certainly still break in to your linux computer with direct attacks
[17:18] <edbian> abstrakt: crusade_newbies Plus we use repos which rarely if ever contain any malicious code at all.
[17:18] <jita> hwilde: and what does -d do ?
[17:19] <abstrakt> edbian, heheh, yeah i've heavily thought about that
[17:19] <hwilde> jita, read the man page
[17:19] <jita> nodereference, preserve=links
[17:19] <anderson> no one can help me ?
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, i never install third party packages on a production server, if I ever need something non-vanilla i just compile it myself
[17:19] <dr_willis> anderson,  and how are you going to run this browser on the vps anyway and see its output? I think theres some missing details here.
[17:19] <edbian> abstrakt: crusade_newbies If you do things right.  Linux is extremely secure in every way.
[17:19] <dr_willis> anderson,  what you are trying to do soulds very weird to me..
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, but if you're just a "regular user" then you're probably fine with no worries about virii
[17:19] <coraxx> anderson: maybe I can ...
[17:19] <xangua> anderson: you sure can install a minimal gui
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, like i said, security is still important
[17:19] <xangua> and everyone happy then :D
[17:19] <crusade_newbies> if i was root, will be not effected too?
[17:20] <anderson> but where i find minimal gui for 128 mb
[17:20] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone, I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:20] <edbian> crusade_newbies: If you are root all the time that is a big security risk
[17:20] <anderson> ?
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, i asked you a question earlier that you haven't yet answered
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, but for minimal gui, probably you want openbox
[17:20] <anderson> what is the question ?
[17:20] <hwilde> anderson,  dsl  (damn small linux)
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, why exactly, do you need to look at this website FROM the VPS?
[17:20] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, I'd like to amend "for now" to all of the advice about antivirus.
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, ^ that is the question
[17:21] <abstrakt> anderson, VPS is a server, i have no idea what relevance this has to viewing a flash page
[17:21] <coraxx> anderson: I think at least 256mb is required for xubuntu ...so I think you will have to go outside of Ubuntu ...I have installed a Fedora once with GUI on a 128mb system ....so your question will probably belong to another chatroom.
[17:21] <crusade_newbies> ok...now i understand.thanx
[17:21] <abstrakt> anderson, the server will never have a need to view flash, why can't you just view it from your own computer?
[17:21] <anderson> because i live on country dont have paypal and i create the paypal on usa dedicated server but i dont have now i have only the vps but the vps has only 128 mb and i cant install gui on this ram
[17:22] <dr_willis> anderson,  you can port forward from your local pc to the VPS...
[17:22] <anderson> how i do that ?
[17:22] <abstrakt> anderson, yeah run an SSH tunnel or a VPN
[17:22] <dr_willis> !ssh | anderson
[17:22] <anderson> yes yes i already get connected to my vps via putty
[17:22] <abstrakt> anderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[17:22] <dr_willis> anderson,  time to read up on ssh and port forwarding.
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, no you need ssh tunneling
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, not "just" ssh
[17:23] <dr_willis> yea tunnles.. :)
[17:23] <coraxx> anderson: ssh -X -C user@xx.xx.xx.xx <software name> ...starts a software on a remote machine, but shows it locally
[17:23] <anderson> but how do i install browser on very minimal gui ?
[17:23] <dr_willis> anderson,  you dont need to.
[17:23] <abstrakt> coraxx, isn't that via XDMCP?
[17:23] <Pici> coraxx: Thats not going to help if he doesn't have an X server running.
[17:23] <anderson> what i need ?
[17:23] <debd> somebody pls help me
[17:23] <dr_willis> anderson,  how would you rn the browser if you had one installed?
[17:23] <debd> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1821677
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, you need to read i gave you the link
[17:23] <Pici> debd: You haven't asked a question yet.
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[17:24] <coraxx> Pici: the xserver is running locally ...not remotely
[17:24] <Pici> debd: Please ask *here*
[17:24] <debd> Pici: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1821677
[17:24] <dr_willis> anderson,  browser on local box ---------Tunnle ------->  vps ------------> web sites.
[17:24] <Pici> coraxx: I know that. anderson is running Windows.
[17:24] <anderson> but with that my paypal going to get limited because of coockies
[17:24] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, you could also set up a proxy (squid) but you would have to be very careful that other's can't connect
[17:24] <abstrakt> anderson, you have two basic options, an SSH tunnel or a VPS
[17:24] <abstrakt> yes or a proxy
[17:24] <Ramses> SSH tunnel is interesting
[17:24] <abstrakt> but that's not necessarily secure and may cost money
[17:25] <dr_willis> I think this is getting beyond ubuntu support also.. :)
[17:25] <Ramses> SSH is not secure?
[17:25] <abstrakt> anderson, google for "ssh tunnel" and also google for "vps" it's very simple, you need to go do your research now
[17:25] <anderson> yes that is not secure
[17:25] <coraxx> Pici: OIC ...a running Windows is a problem in it self, which need to be solved first I think ;-) ...but seriously I can if he want install cygwin...and do it from there.
[17:25] <Pici> anderson: These instructions here will help you do exactly what you want: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:25] <coraxx> Pici: * I = He
[17:25] <StevenSS> Is there a website where I can view the popularity of everything in the Ubuntu repositories?
[17:25] <anderson> look i already have vps before and i already install lxde on it + vncserver then connect to it then open browser and nter to my paypal account
[17:25] <Pici> anderson: No need for any extra software on either the server or your computer.
[17:26] <dr_willis> coraxx,  xming may be a better answer then cygwin. :)  but  its getting very thin in the ubuntu support area now.
[17:26] <jrib> StevenSS: popcon.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <abstrakt> anderson, ahh, interesting, you should have said that long ago :)
[17:26] <anderson> yes , now u understand what i want ?
[17:26] <Pici> anderson: This is what you want: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:27] <coraxx> dr_willis: true ... I have used xming myself ...I wasn't sure whether it had enough support for anderson tho
[17:27] <abstrakt> Pici, hold one, lemme see if this helps
[17:27] <Pici> anderson: I'm using the same thing right now myself to tunnel my browser's traffic through my vps.
[17:27] <abstrakt> anderson, yes I do... now I understand, here ya go http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:27] <dr_willis> coraxx,  i thought cygwin was basically a dead project. :) not used it in years
[17:27] <abstrakt> cygwin's definitely not dead
[17:27] <anderson> Pici : u didnt understand what i want
[17:27] <abstrakt> i use it, works quite well
[17:28] <crusade_newbies> how to get all backtrack 5 software in ubuntu. i want to install backtrack 5 but unsupport. im a student more to networking course. so i wanted much the backtrack 5 tool.
[17:28] <dr_willis> but is it b eing actibely developed still abstrakt .
[17:28] <anderson> wait wait please , is that the same as i install gui on my vps then install vncserver and log into my paypal account ?
[17:28] <dr_willis> crusade_newbies,  most every software thats in BT, is avail in ubuntu repos, or PPa
[17:28] <coraxx> dr_willis: actually for those you will need SSH access to their Windows Server, when they for instance have a Version-Control system installed...cygwin is often the choice (CVS, SVN...)
[17:28] <Pici> anderson: No. This is not the same. But this is much faster.
[17:28] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, don't do it that way. if you can't install it on it's own partition, use vmware (not virtualbox) to run it
[17:29] <dr_willis> coraxx,  well i never ssh to the windows box. :)
[17:29] <BrixSat> helloo how do i install huawei E173 on ubundu 10.x
[17:29] <anderson> can u please just give me a minimal gui ?
[17:29] <coraxx> dr_willis: will never have a Windows server anymore ..period ;-)
[17:29] <Pici> I give up .
[17:29] <dr_willis> anderson,  'sudo apt-get install  wmx'   there ya go.. minimal gui.
[17:29] <anderson> wmx ?
[17:29] <dr_willis> You asked for a minimal gui...
[17:29]  * abstrakt facepalms
[17:30] <anderson> and how i nstall vncserver on it or how i get connected to it
[17:30] <jrib> anderson: or just use w3m... but Pici's suggestion is probably what you want to do
[17:30] <abstrakt> anderson, GOOGLE son... do you SPEAK it?!
[17:30] <dr_willis> anderson,  we asked earlier how you were planning on connecting to it.....
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[17:30] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, you don't need a gui, you just need the server to think the traffic is coming from that server. browser can be local, and it will work the same
[17:30] <dr_willis> anderson,  ssh, xming, x forwarding.. is one way.
[17:30] <dr_willis> sunce you dont want to learn how to do tunnels.
[17:31] <abstrakt> he just doesn't want to learn
[17:31] <abstrakt> he wants hand holding
[17:31] <abstrakt> which is odd, cuz he says he's got a vps set up already, so i don't know how he managed to do that, or why he's not willing to apply the same skills to that as to this
[17:31] <coraxx> abstrakt: wanna hold my hands ;-) ?
[17:31] <charas> Does anyone know a way to make compiz show viewports like unity shows? Currently when I press Super+E it shows all viewports in one line.  I'd prefer it like Unity shows on presing Super+S
[17:31] <anderson> but i have 3 vps each account with vps and if i use that , that will block my accounts
[17:31] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  or how he paied for the vps...
[17:32] <abstrakt> or why he can't just pay for a 256M server and run openbox
[17:32] <boolean> morning: does anyone know where the confguration is for the Applications menu on the main panel (ubuntu 10.04) ?
[17:32] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, why would they block it?
[17:32] <abstrakt> openbox runs fine in my 256M VM
[17:32] <R3H4N> hello every one I am new here
[17:33] <coraxx> R3H4N: hello there...what is your question for today ?
[17:33] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install xorg openbox && startx
[17:33] <anderson> the going to block because they going to make sure that i open 3 accounts from the same pc but just the ip changed ut the history still
[17:33] <coraxx> abstrakt: Do U know VirtualBox ?
[17:33] <abstrakt> coraxx, i do
[17:34] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, more to the point, who would block what? if you want to access US paypal from US VPS, you need to proxy your traffic through the vps. Pici's solution will do that.
[17:34] <cdeszaq> Hello. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server 10.04 with a LAMP stack and Tomcat installed out of the box as a development test server. I need to be able to hit the MySQL service running there from a remote machine, but I can't seem to get through. I've tried commenting out bind-address and skip-networking isn't in the my.cnf file, but it still doesn't work. When I comment out bind-address or
[17:34] <abstrakt> coraxx, the people in #vbox know it better
[17:34] <cdeszaq>  change it to anything other than the localhost IP, I can't seem to restart the mysql process. sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart just hangs. Is there something else I need to do?
[17:34] <venik212> when I change somehting in the Startup Application, it does not "stick"-- when I open it again the old settings remain.  Is this a bug?
[17:34] <charas> Gentleman anyway to see viewports like this http://wiki.compiz.org/CardPlugin?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=plugin-expo.png using Compiz?
[17:34] <R3H4N> coraxx, no question till now just wanted to say hello :D
[17:34] <coraxx> abstrakt: ahh good ...here is a simple question then ;-) ...i can't seem to get VRDP to work when a check it on ...have you got it to work...and if so, how ?
[17:34] <crusade_newbies> i try to install .deb file...and easy to install but when come to tgz.gz file(i think)...i dont know how to install the tgz.file
[17:34] <anderson> but i need forward evry time i want ente to my accounts i have 3 accounts and 3 vpss
[17:34] <abstrakt> coraxx, yeah i have no idea, ask #vbox
[17:34] <coraxx> R3H4N: ah ok :-) then welcome
[17:35] <jrib> !software | crusade_newbies
[17:35] <abstrakt> coraxx, i don't even knokw what VRDP is
[17:35] <jrib> venik212: check permissions on ~/.config/autostart ; try running the startup applications program in a terminal and check for output
[17:35] <coraxx> abstrakt: Virtual RDP (remote desktop protocol) ...for remote administrating the console of a virtual machine
[17:35] <cdeszaq> Also, if it matters, this server is running as a VM with 2 network interfaces. eth0 is a NAT interface, and eth1 is a host-only interface with a static IP (192.168.159.101), which is the IP I would like to use to connect as I develop on the host machine
[17:35] <abstrakt> coraxx, hmm, what's the guest OS? windows? linux? mac?
[17:36] <venik212> I wanted to do that but I don't know the name of the startup application app..
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, i know about the VRDP actually, but i haven't used it
[17:36] <b0ot> How do you set the clock in ubuntu?
[17:36] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, that's a compressed file, probably the source code. Extract it (preserving folders) and read the contained files (README, INSTALL, etc)
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, i mostly run Linux guests so that I can duplicate production webserver environments
[17:36] <jrib> cdeszaq: you might try #ubuntu-server or even #mysql if no one here knows at the moment
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, and occasionally windows, but I just use windows through the actual VirtualBox console thingie that you get
[17:36] <cdeszaq> jrib: k, thanks...I'll try there too
[17:37] <abstrakt> coraxx, when you install the guest additions, GUI works quite well, you can do fullscreen, the mouse integration is nice, etc
[17:37] <jrib> cdeszaq: by the way, it's best to use the « service » command and not call /etc/init.d/ directly
[17:37] <anderson> so please did u understand me , i have 3 accounts and 3 vpss i need to forward every time to a vps to open each account
[17:37] <coraxx> abstrakt: I have several guest-systems ... mostly *nix-types  (free-bsd, Ubuntu ..etc) ...there might be a Windows variant in the future but doubtful...why ?
[17:37] <abstrakt> coraxx, k, well... i mean what's wrong with SSH access to them?
[17:37] <jrib> anderson: you've been given ssh tunnel instructions, a minimal x option, and a browser that runs in a terminal as options.  What else are you looking for?
[17:37] <cdeszaq> jrib: Yeah, its been a while since I did much, and I noticed that message coming across. What's the difference between the two methods?
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, and or just installing a thin WM like openbox?
[17:38] <venik212> The .config/autostart folder has a DO NOT ENTER sign... won't let me change permission
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, i actually installed openbox just recently, there is a tad bit of noticable lag but it's not too bad with just ob open
[17:38] <anderson> i cant find those instruction for the 3 ways
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, what's your main goal? you want GUI access to your VMs?
[17:38] <anderson> ca u please give all them to me on one reply
[17:39] <jrib> cdeszaq: ubuntu is moving to upstart, using « service » should ensure that the right script is being called (for example I know with ssh the old sys-v-init script and the upstart script both exist)
[17:39] <jrib> !upstart > cdeszaq
[17:39] <coraxx> abstrakt: my main goal is to remove my already existing VMWare Server software and go free and OpenSource.  That means running VirtualBox as a server-system as to the regular client-mode which works great.
[17:39] <jrib> anderson: scroll up
[17:40] <Seven_Six_Two> To all new users: Google is your friend, and can likely find most of your answers. How do you use it? -->  http://www.google.ca/support/websearch/bin/static.py?hl=en-CA&page=guide.cs&guide=1221265&answer=134479&source=product&rd=1
[17:40] <cdeszaq> jrib:  Cool, thanks
[17:40] <anderson> please i referech the page :s
[17:40] <jrib> anderson: Pici gave you a link to setting up an ssh tunnel, dr_willis suggested a minimal x option, and I told you you could use w3m in a terminal (so you don't need X).  My advice, if you care, is to use Pici's suggestion
[17:40] <matheus__> escott, i run the command metacity em the xterm, appear the toolbar of the boxe
[17:40] <matheus__> metacity in*
[17:41] <abstrakt> coraxx, ok, i'm just saying, what need are you trying to fulfill by setting up the VRDP?
[17:41] <anderson> but how to use w3m on terminal
[17:41] <anderson> ?
[17:41] <prodriver> i had once 3d effect and ati drivers installed on Sun Virtual Box
[17:41] <prodriver> and the extras effects were working
[17:41] <coraxx> abstrakt: to do that I will need two thing ...one--> is tio be able to start multiple VMs on the same host-server  two--> for administrative purposes (remote installs or trobleshooting) need to remotely access the console of those VMs
[17:41] <prodriver> i think it was with release 10.10
[17:41] <jrib> anderson: you type "w3m url" voila
[17:41] <prodriver> is that possible right?
[17:41] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: rtfm and "learn to use google" statements aren't welcome here
[17:41] <abstrakt> coraxx, and really at this point you should be talking to #vbox, otherwise i can suggest a couple of linux native options
[17:41] <anderson> then it showing as browser or what ?
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: yes, you get a browser in your terminal...
[17:42] <abstrakt> coraxx, gotcha, well you definitely want to talk to #vbox
[17:42] <anderson> but its a text browser ?
[17:42] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, fair enough. I didn't post that to be mean, quite the opposite in fact.
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: yes
[17:42] <anderson> i need graphical browser :s
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: then do what Pici or dr_willis suggested...
[17:42] <abstrakt> lol, still going
[17:43] <matheus__> escott, and the command apt-get still not run... But the metacity works, i believe, appear a toolbar in the box of the xterm.
[17:43] <anderson> i refrech the page i didnt find the auther instructions
[17:44] <venik212> also, there is no error message telling me that I am not root or somesuch thing-- it simply pretends to work, but does not (startup-application, that is)
[17:44] <RobinJ> i jusr created a new swap partition.... what do i need to put in my fstab to get it mounted at boot time?
[17:44] <RobinJ> its sda8
[17:44] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, may I send you a quick PM?
[17:44] <llutz> RobinJ: /dev/sda8                           none                    swap            sw              0 0
[17:44] <anderson> ????
[17:44] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: sure
[17:44] <carlos> hola
[17:44] <abstrakt> coraxx, if you just want remote gui access to each linux box, then you can install XDMCP for example
[17:45] <Ramses> hola
[17:45] <Ramses> the spanish channel is not this
[17:45] <venik212> jrib-- can u help with the permissions for startup-applications?
[17:45] <carlos> aguien me podria enseñar a hakear redes
[17:46] <venik212> or rather, ~/.config/autostart ?
[17:46] <Ramses> yes, I can
[17:46] <oCean> !es | carlos
[17:46] <Ramses> keep my email ramses302006-ricardo@yahoo.com.br
[17:47] <venik212> right now all are grayed out... I guess I have to use chmod 755 or somesuch thing on ~/.config/autostart
[17:47] <RobinJ> thanks
[17:47] <anderson> please ?
[17:47] <dr_willis> Please what?
[17:47] <jrib> anderson: here's the link Pici gave you: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:47] <Ramses> yes, please what?
[17:47] <RobinJ> also, i configured sda5 (ntfs) to be mounted at boot time using pysdm. no matter wich file, when i go to the properties it says it's got execution rights..... but somehow i cant run a single binary fil from it
[17:48] <RobinJ> not even an exe via wine
[17:48] <anderson> i need what dr_willis give me
[17:48] <abstrakt> jrib, lets see if it takes this time
[17:48] <abstrakt> hahaha, nope
[17:48] <dr_willis> anderson,   Using a ssh tunnel?
[17:48] <abstrakt> jrib, i tried that too... he didn't accept it from me either :P
[17:48] <abstrakt> dr_willis, ooh ooh, you try now!
[17:48] <anderson> no use minimal gui
[17:48] <abstrakt> omg
[17:48] <anderson> the minimal one on the world
[17:48] <dr_willis> anderson,  you mean wmx?
[17:48] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install xorg && startx
[17:48] <dr_willis> your browser is going to take 10x the ram the gui is useing...
[17:48] <abstrakt> anderson, ^ that's the most minimal GUI in the world afaik
[17:49] <anderson> i can  run that on 126 mb ?
[17:49] <abstrakt> anderson, only one way to find out
[17:49] <dr_willis> wmx can run on very low end systems.. but your browser is going to be taking  a lot more....
[17:49] <abstrakt> man it smells like the zoo in here
[17:49] <dr_willis> make a big swap file.... :)
[17:49] <oCean> abstrakt: stop that
[17:49] <abstrakt> someone must be feeding the trolls again
[17:50] <anderson> what is the minimal browser on linux ? that not eating lot o rams
[17:50] <escott> matheus__, sorry been away from the computer a bit. im not really sure where to go with things. your system is clearly very messed up, but its not clear to me what exactly is wrong. did anything happen during the install
[17:50] <jrib> anderson: links2 -g
[17:50] <minimec> anderson: something like mmidori
[17:50] <minimec> anderson: midori
[17:50] <abstrakt> anderson, dillo maybe, but you're not gonna have flash support on dillo i don't think
[17:50] <escott> RobinJ, is it mounted noexec
[17:50] <dr_willis> midori is actually decent last i tried it.
[17:50] <franek> hi
[17:51] <dr_willis> dillo is a bit too minimal  last i tried it.
[17:51] <anderson> but i can add flashplayer to dillo?
[17:51] <WallyJ2K> Having trouble getting connected to a Windows 7 share. My "Network" screen can see my PC, but says "Unable to mount location. Failed to receive list from server" when I double-click the PC to open it.
[17:51] <dr_willis> anderson,  why do you need flash at all?
[17:51] <dr_willis> flash will take up most all your ram. :)
[17:51] <matheus__> escott, i'm user this system at 1 year ago... never problem...
[17:51] <franek> I have a problem with a card reader with netbook acer one d260. Does not work .... I tried http://tinyurl.com/3kv7lcf and http://tinyurl.com/3ddz9f6 but it did not work. lsusb -d 0cf2:6250 -v  >> http://wklej.org/id/574356/txt/ Debian Sqeeze, any ideas?
[17:51] <anderson> because i need enter somewebsites require flash
[17:52] <RobinJ> escott: /dev/sda5                                  /media/sda5  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,group=robin,users,gid=robin,user,owner,uid=robin  0  0
[17:52] <dr_willis> good luck then.. How were you going to view this minimal browser you are trying to install anyway?
[17:52] <RobinJ> so no i suppose
[17:52] <FFForever> How can I manually specify a resolution for my external monitor? xrandr says the max supported resolution is 1024x768 but the monitor supports 1600x900
[17:52] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  i think GUD  and UID are #'s not names...
[17:52] <abstrakt> dr_willis, XDCMP, duh... cuz that's so much easier than an ssh tunnel :)
[17:53] <abstrakt> blerp XDMCP
[17:53] <RobinJ> .... really? xD
[17:53] <RobinJ> oops xd
[17:53] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  i think so. :)
[17:53] <RobinJ> ow right.... user ID xD
[17:53] <RobinJ> so what should it be? :p
[17:53] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  run the id command to see your gid/uid
[17:53] <RobinJ> robin@Robin-Latitude-D620:~$ id
[17:53] <RobinJ> uid=1000(robin) gid=1000(robin) groepen=1000(robin),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare),1001(input)
[17:53] <RobinJ> 1000?
[17:53] <RobinJ> :p
[17:53] <FloodBot1> RobinJ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <dr_willis> first user starts at 1000 :) yep.
[17:54] <Juandev> hey guys, how I will find out missing drivers if accessing windows via ubuntu boot?
[17:54] <anderson> than u very much
[17:54] <WallyJ2K> Went through the "Connect to a Server" method and the $C drive shares show up, but not the other folders that are named shares
[17:54] <dr_willis> hmm.. whats that 1001(input) ?
[17:54] <escott> RobinJ, users implies noexec
[17:55] <minimec> FFForever: If xrander is not detecting your hardware, you would probably have to create a /etc/xorg.conf See here as baseic info... http://mac.linux.be/content/set-xorgconf-manually-xrandr#7
[17:55] <thisismygame> Would it be possible to combine several or all of the minimal install images on this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD and put them on a single CD? So I could choose which I would like to install each time I boot from the disc?
[17:55] <escott> dr_willis, he has a users option so it is noexec
[17:55] <dr_willis> thisismygame,  you want a bootable usb that you pick kubuntu/ubuntu/lubuntu/whateverbuntu from?
[17:55] <Seven_Six_Two> can an op please pm me
[17:55] <RobinJ> escott: nls=iso8859-1,owner,uid=1000
[17:56] <dr_willis> thisismygame,  I can do that with a flash drive..  makign a dvd.. may be a little harder. :) but doable ive seen.
[17:56] <RobinJ> Seven_Six_Two: just ask your question here
[17:56] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: there is also #ubuntu-ops if you need op assistance
[17:56] <RobinJ> escott: that one correct?
[17:56] <escott> RobinJ, man mount | grep -C5 users. if you want exec and users you need to add exec as a mount option
[17:56] <Stava> After i've been running my computer for a few days the desktop seems really slow when moving windows. Restarting the computer helps. Do you know why this might happen, or another way to reload whatever components are slowing down? I'm running the classic ubuntu desktop with gnome and compiz
[17:57] <RobinJ> :p
[17:57] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. I'd like to create a page for new users that describes the best ways to get help, and I'd like it to be official. What would be the process?
[17:57] <anandjeyahar> my Xserver hangs once i boot ubuntu (normal mode) .it does the fs check, starts services throws me a console login and then hangs
[17:57] <anandjeyahar> how do i debug?
[17:57] <RobinJ> i hope 11.10 will boot A LOT faster -.-
[17:57] <RobinJ> a whole minute to get to the login screen is a bit too much in my opinion
[17:58] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: it has been done: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[17:58] <Obfuscation> RobinJ maybe it has to do with StartUp
[17:58] <Obfuscation> Mine  doesn't take to long to get to login, it's faster than most MS Windows Boxes
[17:58] <dr_willis> My PC boots up faster then my ANdroid Phone. :)
[17:59] <Obfuscation> what doesn't?  :))
[17:59] <RobinJ> Obfuscation: i've got 11.04 on 3 laptops in my house.... they all take longer than a minute to get to the desktop....
[17:59] <thisismygame> dr_willis: I have a Dell Poweredge 600SC (OLD) that just had its windows system partition fail during a power loss. I assume an old machine like this is going to fail in the way of usb boot support
[17:59] <RobinJ> if you know how to speed this up by even 10 seconds i'll thank you very much xd
[18:00] <RobinJ> it's getting a real pain
[18:00] <RobinJ> as the boot process keeps lengthening
[18:00] <dr_willis> 2 min boot time ... 2 month uptime....
[18:00] <RobinJ> xd
[18:00] <Ramses> your PC is faster than your Android?
[18:00] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, yes, I see that. It doesn't mention man, info, other forums. only the official channels, which are great, but there is so much more. I was thinking more of a HOWTO than just links to official resources
[18:00] <RobinJ> dr_willis: and your PC runs android i presume? xD
[18:00] <RobinJ> then it would indeed boot up faster
[18:01] <Obfuscation> most phones I see with the Droid OS take FOREVER to start up
[18:01] <dr_willis> Obfuscation,  yep. about 2 min for my phone here.
[18:01] <cdeszaq> how can I turn off apparmor?
[18:01] <RobinJ> sudo apt-get purge apparmor
[18:01] <RobinJ> JUST KIDDINGDONT DO IT
[18:02] <RobinJ> well i removed gnome-panel cause i didnt like it but i dont recommend doing that either xd
[18:02] <RobinJ> (not on my currently running system of course)
[18:02] <dr_willis> !apparmor
[18:03] <cdeszaq> I have nothing against apparmor, i'm just having issues getting MySQL to hear connections from outside and someone suggested I turn it off
[18:03] <Obfuscation> @escott I think my dependency issues were caused by "broken packages" that I'm trying to correct now
[18:03] <coraxx> abstrakt: do you know if ubuntu-server by default blocks port 3389 ?
[18:03] <tehnef> cdeszaq: you don't need to do that to make mysql work
[18:03] <coraxx> abstrakt: for other server software I start...usually the ports a unblocked and ready for use...as soon as the service starts to 'LISTENING'
[18:03] <tehnef> coraxx: ubuntu-server doesn't block any ports by default IIRC
[18:03] <cdeszaq> tehnef: I need it to accept connections from an outside server and by default, it doesn't because it only binds to the localhost IP
[18:04] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, including information like how to get logs, how to use log info in search, mentioning that forum search should be done before posting question, running programs in terminal to get more information
[18:04] <abstrakt> coraxx, um, by default i don't think ubuntu server blocks *anything*
[18:04] <coraxx> tehnef: yep, that's what I thought ...I still don't get why I don't get any open ports from VirtualBox
[18:04] <abstrakt> coraxx, if you want to block stuff you have to install and configure iptables
[18:04] <cdeszaq> tehnef:  but when I try to remove bind-address from the my.cnf, or set it to a static IP of the server, "sudo service mysql start" just hangs
[18:05] <tehnef> cdeszaq: bind-address in my.cnf
[18:05] <tehnef> cdeszaq: oh? hmm
[18:05] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: there is the #ubuntu-doc channel, that might be a start, since this is not really a technical issue
[18:06] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, that's why I requested a pm originally. Thanks for the hint, I'll ask in the other channel
[18:06] <coraxx> abstrakt: yes ...that one I know :-)  (I have made several minimalistic firewall configuration on small system with Linux and IPTables)
[18:06] <cdeszaq> tehnef:  yeah...really strange. restart and stop all have similar behavior. the mysql error.log doesn't have much, nor does the syslog to explain anything: http://pastebin.com/vCW9iiFn and http://pastebin.com/11V4n5VV
[18:06] <Ramses_> ubuntu is available in arabic language?
[18:06] <emph> Hi, I could use some help. I've installed several linux distributions prior to this but I cannot seem to get it to work. When I try to boot the livecd the graphics gets garbled when x starts. The same goes if I use the alternate installer, then it installs but I get the same problem when boot it. To try and solve it I thought that I should install fglrx using the netinstall. But I get errors from aptitude and I don't know how to scroll through
[18:06] <emph> to find the source of the error. Help anyone? Would appreciate it.
[18:07] <venik212> ok-- found how to own the .config/autostart folder, and now all is well-- thanks
[18:07] <tehnef> cdeszaq: looks like a different issue, possibly. have you actually populated the db with any data yet? if not, try purging and reinstalling it
[18:07] <JasonO> Hello I have an encrypted drive on my desktop, I would like to remove it to regain disk space b/c I only have ninety something disk space left.
[18:07] <cdeszaq> tehnef: there is nothing at all in the DB...it is a clean install
[18:09] <cdeszaq> tehnef: I also cannot telnet into the port either (but I think MySQL needs to be listening there for that to work)...I get connection refused when I do "telnet 192.168.159.101 3306" (that is the static IP of the eth1 interface of the server, which works fine for SSH and Tomcat and Apache, for example)
[18:09] <Obfuscation> ALRIGHT!! so if anyone comes into the channel and wants to know how to correct dependency issues when trying to install software, Fix broken packages just corrected my issue
[18:10] <tehnef> cdeszaq: well if you can't get mysql running then that would be expected
[18:10] <tehnef> cdeszaq: try to dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[18:12] <WallyJ2K> Can't connect to my Windows7 share, using the Connect to Server method. Ideas?
[18:13] <JasonO> Hi can someone please help me.
[18:13] <cdeszaq> tehnef: No noticeable difference. same behaviors
[18:13] <WallyJ2K> It will show the C$, E$ type shares, but nothing else.
[18:14] <dr_willis> those are special shares i recall.
[18:14] <ChessTeach> I am trying to configure mailutils and I am having trouble sending emails. I am able to write and send without error, but the recipent doesn't recieve it. Not sure where to go from here
[18:14] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  try enterint the smb://server.ip.num.ber/sharename   directly?
[18:14] <rocket16> Hello guys. Is there a way to disable ureadahead without removing it?
[18:15] <WallyJ2K> Strangely the "User" share is the onlyt non $ share that shows up, but I can get into that one.
[18:15] <WallyJ2K> let me give that a try
[18:15] <tux0x29a> my internet connection is up and running but everything (but ping) is blocked to the outside world
[18:15] <tux0x29a> i can connect to other computers in my network
[18:16] <WallyJ2K> @dr_willis - when you say "directly", do you mean in a terminal?
[18:16] <tux0x29a> i think its the firewall that blocks everything...
[18:16] <escott> JasonO, ok so what exactly is the question?
[18:16] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  in the file manager.
[18:16] <dr_willis>  WallyJ2K  smb:// wont work in a terminal :)
[18:16] <xmagixx> Hello, i need to apply a fix to alsa-utils - how ever in 11.04 i can't find the file. It's surpose to be at /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[18:17] <JasonO> escott: Hello I have an encrypted drive on my desktop, I would like to remove it to regain disk space b/c I only have ninety something disk space left.
[18:17] <Arney> I can't get 3D acceleration in Intel 4500MHD after I updated, where do I go?
[18:17] <gadgetdevil> Howdy, I am trying to implement Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. I can not get any of my nodes to connect, and after running euca_conf --deregister-cluster my cluster name still shows up in /etc/eucalptus/eucalptus-cc.conf
[18:17] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, what kind of connection , etherent or wifi
[18:17] <dr_willis> JasonO,  so you want to repartion the disk and erase it?
[18:17] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: ethernet..
[18:17] <WallyJ2K> @dr_willis - I went through Go->Location and it allowed me to type it in. I tried IP as well as the PC name and it didn't find the share. Gave me "Could not Display"
[18:18] <JasonO> dr_willis: Indeed.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, dhcp ?
[18:18] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: when i scan outside addresses they are reported filtered
[18:18] <tux0x29a> yes
[18:18] <escott> JasonO, but what is the question. if it is a ecryptfs you just remove .cryptfs folder
[18:18] <WallyJ2K> The file I want is techically deep within the User share, so I can get there the long way for now
[18:18] <dr_willis> JasonO,  you really syre theres nothing on it you want to keep? if so - just use gparted to delete the partitons and remake them as you want.
[18:18] <Arney> help please. I can't get 3D acceleration in Intel 4500MHD after I updated, where do I go?
[18:19] <JasonO> dr_willis: I want to keep my original /home folder and its contents but want to remove the copy that is on my desktop.
[18:19] <dr_willis> JasonO,  ahh a 'copy' on the desktop..
[18:19] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, ,sudo dhclient eth0 , your ethernet being eth0 of course
[18:19] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i do have a connection...
[18:19] <tux0x29a> that's not the problem
[18:19] <willwh> BluesKaj: o/ :))
[18:19] <tux0x29a> the problem is i can't connect to anywhere
[18:20] <dr_willis> JasonO,  id be carefull and backup your /home/ stuff somewhere extra safe just in case..  Im not clear on where this copy of an encrypted drive came from.
[18:20] <escott> JasonO, the space overhead of ecryptfs shouldn't be that much
[18:20] <JasonO> dr_willis: Okey.
[18:20] <JasonO> escott: Huh?
[18:20] <xmagixx> Hello i need to apply a fix to alsa-utils, where to i find that file in ubuntu 11.04 ? it should be at /etc/init.d/alsa-utils but it's not, i even tried purge and reinstall but still not there... several sites says that the file is there in previors versions of ubuntu
[18:21] <escott> JasonO, is this a normal install with the "encrypt my home directory" option selected?
[18:21] <dr_willis> xmagixx,  that dosent mean its there   in all versions...
[18:21] <dr_willis> !locate alsa-utils
[18:21] <dr_willis> !find alsa-utils
[18:21] <gadgetdevil> xmagixx to find files installed by a package you can run "dpkg-query -L <package name>"
[18:21] <JasonO> escott: No, my /home was encrypted by default during the installation of Ubuntu onto my system.
[18:22] <willwh> tux0x29a: is it a DNS issue? (i.e. if you're connected - can you; ping google.com, if not, try, ping 74.125.127.104) - or, just try this in your browser: 74.125.127.104
[18:22] <xmagixx> dr.willis bash: !locate: event not found
[18:22] <tux0x29a> willwh: no.. i've checked with ip numbers..
[18:22] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, well , you don't have a connection then , from the gateway/router to the internet ,network manager setup should show some connection details
[18:22] <cdeszaq> How can I figure out why a call to "sudo service mysql start" would hang with no output and no processor load?
[18:23] <willwh> tux0x29a: pastebin the output of; sudo ifconfig
[18:23] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i have an ip address and i can see other computers in my network... (router etc...)
[18:23] <escott> JasonO, and what i am saying is I don't know that doing so will take up that much more space than unencrypted
[18:23] <xmagixx> gadgetdevil, hmm still no sign of alsa-utils
[18:23] <jrib> cdeszaq: try to start mysql yourself (see what the script does) and check logs
[18:23] <JasonO> escott: Yes it is.
[18:23] <tux0x29a> willwh: http://pastebin.com/9ZsghvZP
[18:24] <escott> JasonO, why do you think that? it would be easy to confuse the mount overlay with the underlying fs if you just run du
[18:24] <gadgetdevil> use dpkg-query -l alsa* to try searching for anything starting with the name alsa (note the lowercase l which is different from the uppercase from before)
[18:24] <willwh> ok - you have a DHCP address - 192.168.1.100
[18:24] <JasonO> escott: I created a second /home and it is mounted on my desktop. I ejected it but it still appeared when I booted up again and I didn't regain space afterwards.
[18:24] <RobinJ> huh
[18:24] <RobinJ> my bootchart tells me ureadahead is the cause of 60% of my total boot time
[18:24] <tux0x29a> willwh: like i said already :)
[18:25] <tux0x29a> willwh: i'm not a newbit.. this is a new problem that happened a few times now...
[18:25] <willwh> tux0x29a: I don't think it's a problem with your ubuntu install - your'e sure your router is connected to the net? ;]
[18:25] <willwh> oh
[18:25] <willwh> I've never had the issue
[18:25] <tux0x29a> willwh: yes... i'm talking from a different computer connected to the same network
[18:25] <willwh> right
[18:25] <willwh> and you're 100% sure it's not DNS
[18:25] <willwh> that is bizarre
[18:25] <escott> JasonO, please send us the contents of your /etc/fstab /proc/partitions and the output of `mount`
[18:25] <tux0x29a> yes.. i did check it before
[18:26] <tux0x29a> willwh: do you know of a way to redirect apt-get trough a different computer..
[18:26] <tux0x29a> willwh: i want to install wireshark.. maybe examine it more
[18:26] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[18:28] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/jPBRW8KR
[18:30] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: when i restart the problem disappears... when i live my computer for long periods of time it returns
[18:30] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: it started a week ago..
[18:30] <tux0x29a> leave*
[18:30] <Juandev> how to fix warnings from smart data utility
[18:31] <Juandev> ?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, in etc/network/interfaces you have this line  iface eth0 inet manual , why manual , you should have either dhcp or static in there
[18:31] <JasonO> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662115/
[18:31] <escott> Juandev, smartmontools. buy a new disk
[18:31] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i used to manualy connect to the network for security reasons..
[18:31] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: its not really important
[18:31] <Juandev> escott: disk?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> oh? really
[18:32] <genii-around> Juandev: escott is right. Those tools are to warn you of impending hard drive failure before it happens.
[18:32] <tux0x29a> yep.. i've disabled dhcp in the router
[18:32] <Pici> Juandev: SMART warnings usually indicate that your drive is failing.
[18:32] <tux0x29a> and manualy entered the details
[18:32] <Juandev> errr
[18:32] <BluesKaj> then you should usae a syatic IP setting tux0x29a
[18:32] <BluesKaj> err static
[18:32] <Juandev> it happened after deleting some files via antivir
[18:32] <phillyj> hey guys, i'd like to try to partition my drive again
[18:32] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i've disabled it
[18:32] <phillyj> I'm gonna use the liveCD and run GParted and I think I need to make an extended partition, right?
[18:32] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: I JUST MANUALLY RUN dhclient
[18:33] <Juandev> so before I budy new disk, how to repare it?
[18:33] <escott> JasonO, so if you are worried about this .Private directory. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU DELETE THAT FOLDER
[18:33] <JasonO> escott: Alright.
[18:33]  * BluesKaj backs off ...gonna check the post/box ...BBL
[18:33] <escott> JasonO, doing so will delete all of your data in $HOME. the visible contents of $HOME are virtual and their disk usage is virtual. the only true disk usage is that of .Private
[18:33] <genii-around> Juandev: Have you ran fsck on the drive?
[18:34] <Juandev> genii-around: no, I use ubuntu as boot
[18:34] <cdeszaq> Wow...I feel like a fool. The problem with MySQL not starting properly was an accidentally deleted "#" in the header comment of the my.conf file.
[18:34] <genii-around> !fsck | Juandev
[18:34] <Juandev> genii-around: yes sir
[18:34] <JasonO> escott: So how do I permanently unmount home?
[18:35] <tux0x29a> JasonO: remove the fstab entry
[18:35] <escott> JasonO, there is some slight overhead in encrypting a file and saving it in .Private vs having it unencrypted, but it should be minimal. you could move some files (such as mp3s) out of your $HOME and put them in /media/music and then symlink ~/music to /media/music but it shouldn't end up freeing much space
[18:35] <JasonO> escott: Okey
[18:36] <JasonO> tux0x29a: Where?
[18:36] <tux0x29a> JasonO: /etc/fstab
[18:36] <tux0x29a> there's a mount entry there... just comment it out
[18:36] <JasonO> tux0x29a: Aaah.
[18:36] <escott> tux0x29a, that will break JasonO's system. and its not in fstab anyways
[18:36] <Juandev> ubottu: but, If I have already restarted the computer, it had to reboot and run fsck
[18:37] <tux0x29a> escott: why would it break anything?
[18:37] <Juandev> genii-around: but, If I have already restarted the computer, it had to reboot and run fsck
[18:37] <tux0x29a> escott: maybe i'm unaware of his particular setup... but that's a way to do it..
[18:38] <Juandev> genii-around: so you mean to run it once more?
[18:38] <JasonO> escott: There is no  /media/music Should I create directory?
[18:38] <xmagixx> Hello i have a problem with sound, after i installed ubuntu 11.04 i have no sound in windows 7, i found a fix for it BUT the fix doesnt apply to 11.04 since there is no alsa-utils, is there any other way to get my sound back so i can duel boot agian ?
[18:38] <escott> JasonO, if you really want to move away from ecryptfs you can do so but you have to copy all the unencrypted contents out of the $HOME (everything but .Private) to a folder outside $HOME and then logout, login as another user, rm -rf .Private, move the files back, log back in (but you should check online for that process because its not something i have done or would recommend) the space savings probably won't be what you hope, and you w
[18:38] <escott> ill have doubled your disk usage of $HOME during the transition
[18:38] <Ellipsis753> Hey, sometimes the whole of Ubuntu crashes for me. I have to hold down the on off button to turn the computer off. Everything freezes other than the cursor (and sometimes even that). Is there anything I can do when this happends? I thought that wasn't meant to happen with linux or something? I thought one program crashing wasn't suppost to bring the system down? Anything I can do? It's annoying and bad for the comp
[18:38] <Ellipsis753> uter whenever this happends.
[18:39] <escott> JasonO, run the following: du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/; they should be very similar
[18:39] <JasonO> escott: I want to stay with ecryptfs.
[18:39] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  X hanging and the whole systgem crashing can be 2 differnt things.. can you ssh into the box after it crashes?
[18:39] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:40] <ack> hey guys!
[18:40] <genii-around> Juandev: If somehow the antivir program messed up your drive as far as fixable problems, then running the fsck will try to fix those. If it completes and then you still get the SMART warnings after, odds are you need to shop for a new drive
[18:40] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, I'm not sure what you mean. However ctl+alt+f2 dosn't work.
[18:40] <V13Axel> How would I go about putting my battery status on the statusbar of GNU Screen?
[18:40] <Arney> 3D is not working after update, what do I do?
[18:41] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  install the ssh server, then when it hangs. try sshing into the box from another pc.. you can then see if its truely totally hung. If  you can get to a command line you can try to force X to restart, and not reboot the whole pc.
[18:41] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  i belive that Byobu screen variant  has that allready as a feature.
[18:41] <dr_willis> !info boybu
[18:41] <dr_willis> if i can spell it rught. :)
[18:41] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I'm already using Byobu, but it doesn't show that.
[18:42] <JasonO> escott: I ran  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ now it's going through all my files.
[18:42] <tux0x29a> how can i completetly restart my network settings (more than just /etc/init.d/networking restart)?
[18:42] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  i though i saw it in its settings/options somewhere
[18:42] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, I have only one computer. I used to get this thing were the whole computer lagged so much ctl+alt+f2 took about 5 minutes to change. Can I reserve some CPU power for the system or something to stop this?
[18:42] <escott> tux0x29a, because he was talking about removing his ecryptfs encrypted contents folder and unencrypted overlay mount
[18:42] <tux0x29a> completely*
[18:42] <emph> Hi, is garbled graphics when X starts(both via livecd and after install with net-install) a known problem? I got an radeon ATI card(has worked atleast with debian previously) and the screen is connected via the VGA port.
[18:42] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I know how I would set it up in .screenrc, but I guess I need to know a one-line-output command to use with the 'backtick' command for Screen.
[18:42] <Guest57714> Hey guys i have a problem gaining a root account? my startard account is not root i think?
[18:42] <Pici> V13Axel: Did you add it via the F9 menu?
[18:42] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  F9 -> status notifications -> has a battery check box
[18:42] <Guest57714> name ACK
[18:43] <Arney> 3D is not working after update, what do I do? Help please
[18:43] <V13Axel> Pici, dr_willis: F9 does nothing.
[18:43] <phillyj> when i use GParted to add an extended partition, can I also increase the size of the NTFS partition that windows uses so the all of my unallocated space is used up?
[18:43] <Pici> !sudo | Guest57714
[18:43] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  hard to tell whats going on. a 2nd pc would be handy for trouble shooting.
[18:43] <escott> !root | Guest57714
[18:43] <heatherr_> hi there.  i need some help installing on my dell laptop!
[18:43] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  odd. its right there in byobu here to set its options.. but im an on 11.10 right now.  you see f9 mentioned at the bttom panel?
[18:43] <Guest57714> Thanks alot guys!!
[18:44] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I do not.
[18:44] <phillyj> heatherr_: whats the problem?
[18:44] <heatherr_> I successfully booted from the CD, did installation, thigns seemed fine, but then when i went to restart I selected ubuntu, logged in and then got stuck
[18:44] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  may be a improvement they made in 11.10 then. i rarely use the app.
[18:44] <JasonO> escott: ?
[18:44] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I don't use 11.10. I'm using 10.04, actually.
[18:44] <escott> JasonO, yes?
[18:45] <heatherr_> it was flashing back and forth between a log in screen and a background, so i turned it off, and restarted.  and now when i select ubuntu i get a weird pesudo-command line promt thing
[18:45] <JasonO> escott: What is  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ doing?
[18:45] <lrojas> i am running ubuntu 10.04 server, what is the best way to set up a FTP ( sftp ) server ?
[18:45] <heatherr_> the background is black and the characters are white and what i type isn't what the output on the screen is
[18:45] <escott> JasonO, the du command will tell you how much space the encrypted unencrypted contents are taking up
[18:45] <heatherr_> its 11.04, if that matters
[18:45] <Ramses> qwebirc has too many bugs, I need to intervein
[18:45] <escott> JasonO, what is in ~/.Private and actually counts
[18:46] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, Sure. Mostly I guess it's just flash though. Does flash bring down anyone elses systems?
[18:46] <phillyj> heatherr_: did you try to restart it again?
[18:46] <JasonO> escott: Okey, then you will help me remove the mounted drive?
[18:46] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  flash is a pain.. has been for years.
[18:46] <escott> JasonO, what is not in .Private is unencrypted and doesn't really exist (it shadows back to .Private)
[18:46] <heatherr_> i didn't after the second time phillyj , should i try a third?  I have it turned off at the moment
[18:46] <Ramses> here the only thing that I need to encrypt is my GPL 3 software
[18:47] <escott> JasonO, they should come out relatively close to each other.. ie you aren't actually losing disk space this way and you need to look elsewhere to find your true disk usage.
[18:47] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:47] <escott> JasonO, but if you wanted to have your music files accessible to every user
[18:47] <phillyj> heatherr_: try once more
[18:47] <V13Axel> dr_willis: Nevermind, apparently I wasn't using Screen through Byobu on my last session.
[18:47] <Ellipsis753> Ok, a little unrelated but is there a good way to kill crashed fullscreen stuff yet? At the moment I ctl+alt+f2 then log in, then ps -e then kill <id>
[18:47] <llutz> lrojas: do you really need ftp? for setting up sftp, look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[18:47] <heatherr_> okay phillyj trying now
[18:48] <heatherr_> would it be easier if we pm'ed phillyj ?
[18:48] <jmesick> I would like to help out with ubuntu graphics
[18:48] <jmesick> is there an ir chat for rhythm
[18:48] <jmesick> that
[18:48] <lrojas> llutz: what other choice is ther? i need a universal solution so people can get or upload files
[18:48] <lrojas> big files i have to add
[18:49] <heatherr_> it looks like it is trying to do things, but the graphics are funny.  i can't read the letters of anything, but now i have the option to login again
[18:49] <escott> JasonO, then what you could do is create a folder with sudo mkdir /media/music; and then move your music files to that folder. they would then be unencrypted, and would take slightly less disk space. you can then rmdir ~/Music;  ln -s /media/music ~/Music
[18:49] <phillyj> heatherr_: did u previously make the password, etc?
[18:49] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks.
[18:49] <heatherr_> yeah, i did that all during installtion phillyj
[18:50] <escott> JasonO, i realize du -h is spitting out all the files and folders du -hs to see only the grand total
[18:50] <JasonO> escott: But will  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ remove the home drive from my desktop?
[18:50] <heatherr_> should i attempt to put in my password and login phillyj ?
[18:50] <lrojas> llutz: what alternatives are there for ftp or sftp ?
[18:50] <phillyj> heatherr_: go ahead
[18:50] <escott> JasonO, no they just sum up the apparent disk sizes, but the stuff that is not in .Private doesn't actually count because it doesn't actually exist
[18:51] <phillyj> anyone know if 11.04 is easier to partition with during install than 10.04?
[18:51] <escott> JasonO, the encryption overhead is the difference between du -hs ~/.Private and du -hs --exclude .Private ~/
[18:51] <llutz> lrojas: i'm afraid there are no real alternatives, but sftp is alway the better choice than ftp
[18:51] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:51] <raj> how to change login screen in luninux
[18:52] <EVIL_PhilOsOpher> phillyj I found it easier to partition with 11.04 but I think she's got an older PC so I'm not sure how well it will work
[18:52] <Xx-DMW-Xx> hey everyone
[18:52] <Stockholm_Angel> Hi how can i reset my system so i only has the system and no software i installed on it. eg no aditional programmes
[18:52] <heatherr_> it made a noise like it was trying to start up phillyj but i just see the background screen
[18:52] <phillyj> EVIL_PhilOsOpher: stupid HP put 4 partitions so its hard for me to figure out what to do
[18:53] <dr_willis> phillyj,  i think MS is sort of pushing that on the makers..
[18:53] <escott> phillyj, i think the easiest thing for you to do is nuke the recovery partition and put the ubuntu partition there. assuming you dont need that recovery partition
[18:54] <dr_willis> phillyj,  given how cheap hard drives are. last laptop i bought - i bought a spare hd just to use as a 'clone backup' of the original.. then i found out that new laptop had room for  a 2nd hd. :)
[18:54] <JasonO> escott: 23G /home/jasono/
[18:54] <phillyj> anyone else got any suggestions for heatherr_ ?
[18:55] <phillyj> heatherr_: If it were me, i'd just reinstall it
[18:55] <escott> phillyj, the other thing you could do is try and swap the windows partitions into extended partitions by carefully identifying the exact block they start and end at and creating your partitions to match that
[18:55] <ss0> Is it possible to change transparency in gnome-terminal via keyboard shortcut? For the life of me I can't find it if there is.
[18:55] <phillyj> escott: i can do that with GParted?
[18:56] <dr_willis> ss0,  you could use ccsm to setup shortcuts for it.. or use   the super-mouse-wheel (i think)
[18:56] <dr_willis> bbl
[18:56] <Kartagis> why does ubuntu dim display?
[18:56] <escott> JasonO, so thats the size of the unencrypted contents. du -hs ~/.Private should say the encrypted size (sorry i forgot the s earlier)
[18:56] <Kartagis> and how can I prevent that?
[18:56] <ss0> dr_willis: thanks so you can switch profiles with a keyboard shortcut without closing the current terminal?
[18:56] <heatherr_> how do you go about re-installing?
[18:56] <jwiggins> Kartagis, are you using a laptop?
[18:57] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no, it's a desktop
[18:58] <phillyj> heatherr_: have you googled your problem? maybe someone else had what you have
[18:58] <JasonO> escott: System Monitor shows /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda 1 /media/home I want to remove the copy which I believe is /media/home
[18:58] <escott> phillyj, id recommend using fdisk for something like that. gparted usually like to reformat, but im saying you could remove the partitions and then carefully rebuild a new partition table that is compatible with the on disk contents (but not reformatting). in any case you have to be prepared to restore if things go south. nuking the Recovery partition is the least intrusive approach (assuming you don't mind losing your recovery partition)
[18:58] <heatherr_> lol, yes phillyj and i got things relating to 10.4, and then this irc channel was suggested to me
[18:59] <jwiggins> Kartagis, are you using a laptop?
[18:59] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no, it's a desktop
[18:59] <jwiggins> Kartagis, go to System/Pref/Power Management
[19:00] <escott> JasonO, oooh i see what you are saying. i didnt notice that before. sudo umount /media/home; and then verify it isn't in /etc/fstab
[19:00] <jwiggins> Kartagis, it may be reading your desktop as a laptop which would be why your display dims if inactive for a few seconds
[19:00] <jwiggins> Kartagis, make sure the "Dim display when idle" is not checked
[19:00] <escott> JasonO, and that will confuse the results of your du -hs. but none of this counts towards actual disk usage
[19:01] <phillyj> escott: well,that sounds complicated. i guess there's no hope for me. might as well go back to using WUBI
[19:01] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no such option
[19:02] <escott> phillyj, i would suggest virtualbox over WUBI
[19:02] <Rehan> does Ubuntu have a true S3 sleep mode like Windows or does it only hibernate (save all RAM to disk)?
[19:02] <escott> Rehan, suspend
[19:02] <Stockholm_Angel> Hi how can i reset my system so i only has the system and no software i installed on it. eg no aditional programmes? eg remove tor, popili, calibrare, google earth
[19:03] <Stockholm_Angel> etc
[19:03] <Rehan> escott: does suspend mean it keeps everything in RAM? what happens with the swap?
[19:03] <JasonO> escott: Will the unmount cmd also remove from the other user?
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> i am having problems mounting my ipod
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> i am using natty narwhal
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> installed fresh with natty disk
[19:04] <escott> Rehan, suspend to ram/S3 swap is left as is. hibernate ram is written to swap cpu halted
[19:04] <ubuntunewb> have afc2add on my ipod
[19:04] <JasonO> escott: Can't find /home/media in /etc/fstab
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, presumably what you did was mount -o bind / /media/home; umount /media/home will unmount that one copy
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, and its /media/home (i keep getting it backwards as well)
[19:05] <ubuntunewb> i have natty narwhal 11.04 and i can't mount my ipod, i have installed afc2add from cydia
[19:05] <JasonO> escott: How will i make sure it removes all copies?
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, after the umount you can sudo rmdir /media/home. and they aren't copies
[19:06] <escott> JasonO, its like portals to the same place. you see the same contents in two places and its the same content, but it only takes 1 unit of space not 2
[19:06] <phillyj> escott: i came across a post that said that you can move the contents from HP_TOOLS partition to HP_RECOVERY partition and then delete the HP_TOOLS partition. Is that a good idea?
[19:07] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks. I will re-boot to make sure they no longer appear,
[19:07] <Kartagis> jwiggins: I noticed that it was dimmed when focus is in a dark bg program, like terminal
[19:08] <escott> phillyj, HP_TOOLS is a bit small for your purposes isn't it? in the end though it is up to you, and how necessary you think the recovery partition is. I just nuked the recovery partition. if you want to keep the recovery partition you could free a partition by removing HP_TOOLS as it is probably the least necessary partition
[19:08] <morfix> hey ppl. I was wondering why the terminal doesnt recognize spaces? if a file is two words it thinks its 2 files
[19:08] <ubuntunewb> i need help
[19:09] <escott> phillyj, once you remove HP_TOOLS you could shrink/move/shrink/move partitions over to the left to make space for you ubuntu partition at the end of the disk
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> is anyone here
[19:09] <edbian> ubuntunewb: A lot of people.  What is your problem?
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> cool
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> my ipod is being a butthole
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> it wont mount
[19:09] <edbian> morfix: I have a file named file a.   Do I have one file named 'file a' or two files names 'file' and 'a'
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> at all
[19:09] <escott> morfix, escape character is "\" this\ will\ be\ interpreted\ as\ one\ file\ name OR you can quote
[19:09] <edbian> morfix: Spaces are ambiguous.  Use "s to fix it
[19:10] <edbian> ubuntunewb: plug it in, and pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:10] <V13Axel> morfix: To put spaces in terminal, you have to put \ where the space goes. "file 1" is done like "file\ 1"
[19:10] <ubuntunewb> @edbian ok
[19:11] <morfix> v13axel what if your directing the terminal to a location
[19:11] <edbian> ubuntunewb: :)
[19:11] <niku> Hi all; I've recently upgraded to 11.04 and am having problems mounting a FuSE filesystem. I've verified the underlying device is there, but can't seem to find the zfs pool
[19:11] <morfix> v13axel ~/Desktop/file/a  ?
[19:11] <V13Axel> morfix: cd "location number 1" or cd location\ number\ 1
[19:11] <niku> if anyone could point me in a direction to put fuse into debug/verbose mode, that would be very appreciated
[19:11] <Hot2Trot> is there a good channel for virtualization questions (ie using ubuntu on a virtual machine)?
[19:12] <Layke> Ive got a question, first time really ever using Ubuntu as a desktop, how do you easily track what you have already opened? When something is below another window I find it hard to find
[19:12] <Layke> Especially when it is below another window on another workspace
[19:12] <troydm> Layke: are you using Unity?
[19:12] <niku> Layke, alt-tab
[19:13] <morfix> v13axel why cant I cd desktop?
[19:13] <Layke> troydm, Yes I am
[19:13] <funkyHat> morfix: if you want to learn about the command line in general I would suggest this http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html -- it covers writing scripts as well, and is actually based on sh, not bash, but bash does everything sh does and more
[19:13] <V13Axel> morfix: it's cd ~/Desktop
[19:13] <Layke> niku, that will only ever work on the same workspace, and I find the preview images really small to recognise.
[19:13] <V13Axel> morfix: *nix terminals are all case-sensitive.
[19:14] <morfix> v13axel It doesnt work when I sudo su
[19:14] <niku> ah, in that case, run the command "gnome-panel" from a terminal
[19:15] <edbian> ubuntunewb: you have a powerPC ?
[19:15] <ubuntunewb> edbian: yes
[19:15] <niku> once that starts, if it doesn't have it already, right-click and add the window list thingy
[19:15] <niku> if that works for you, just add "gnome-panel" to your startup items
[19:15] <Kartagis> can anybody tell me why ubuntu dim display? it's a desktop, everything in power management is set to never
[19:15] <ubuntunewb> edbian: it's a 1.25 GHz eMac powerpc processor
[19:15] <edbian> ubuntunewb: could you pastebin the ENTIRE output of sudo fdisk -l    in the pastebin please?
[19:15] <Kartagis> dims*
[19:16] <ubuntunewb> that is the entire output
[19:17] <V13Axel> morfix: That's because you're running as root. If you want to access your own Desktop, you have to cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop
[19:17] <ubuntunewb> edbian: http://pastebin.com/ij5dUNEa
[19:17] <edbian> ubuntunewb: mmm, not a good sign.  What gen ipod is this?
[19:17] <morfix> v13axel how do I exit sudo su
[19:18] <Layke> troydm, any recomendations?
[19:18] <ttyjunkie> hi
[19:18] <ubuntunewb> edbian: ipod touch 2g ios 4.1 jailbroken
[19:18] <ubuntunewb> 8 gb
[19:18] <JasonO> escott: The drive is still mounted onto my desktop.
[19:18] <eden6000> morfix: exit
[19:18] <edbian> ubuntunewb: switch it from MTP to MSC mode.  Then it will work like a jump drive.
[19:18] <Kartagis> morfix: logout too
[19:18] <Kartagis> morfix: Ctrl+D
[19:18] <morfix> nice
[19:18] <ubuntunewb>  ebian: how do i do that?
[19:19] <edbian> ubuntunewb: IDK, somewhere in the settings on the ipod
[19:19] <edbian> ubuntunewb: http://www.cnet.com.au/what-is-the-difference-between-mtp-ums-and-msc-mp3-players-339275003.htm
[19:20] <escott> JasonO, the /media/home keeps getting mounted? (and its not actually on your desktop, I think nautilus is drawing an icon for a disk because it thinks it is an external drive)
[19:20] <PauloRFP> algum brasileiro ?
[19:20] <Pici> !br | PauloRFP
[19:20] <JasonO> escott: Yes, that's right.
[19:20] <escott> JasonO, please grep sda1 /etc/fstab
[19:21] <escott> JasonO, scratch that. those would be by uuid
[19:21] <escott> JasonO, lets try sudo blkid
[19:21] <heatherr_> Can I ask a silly question?  I think this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741887&page=2 is very similar to my issue, but where do i type in "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?
[19:21] <morfix> kartagis, eden6000, v13axel. everytime I install a package from terminal my friends get impressed and I lol. anyone know a command that does nothing but displays words in the terminal like a package install?
[19:22] <escott> heatherr_, into a terminal
[19:22] <dr_willis> !terminal | heatherr_
[19:22] <JasonO> escott: /dev/sda1: UUID="39ec5cf9-e94d-411f-ba1f-e1d9063e0231" TYPE="ext4"
[19:22] <JasonO> /dev/sda5: UUID="6625212b-ec49-4542-b075-029027bcbebb" TYPE="swap"
[19:22] <escott> heatherr_, so you are not getting the plymouth screen with the ubuntu logo and the 5 dots below it?
[19:22] <heatherr_> so, if i can't SEE the terminal, that won't help me, right?
[19:23] <escott> JasonO, can you please !paste your /etc/fstab
[19:23] <heatherr_> i get what looks like a command line, but the colors and lines are all weird
[19:23] <dr_willis> heatherr_,  you could always use the console and a  console based text editor.
[19:23] <JasonO> escott okey
[19:23] <ubuntunewb> so do i have to get a new player??
[19:23] <dr_willis> I tend to just disable plymouth. :)
[19:23] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[19:23] <edbian> ubuntunewb: probably not
[19:24] <noneabove> hey guys need help with booting off usb.. i went and downloaded the iso, got the program to install on usb, set up boot priority, but now when i boot off of it, it makes a loud beep and if i do nothing it goes to a black screen with a bit of text and then freezes, and also on the screen where it asks if youd like to boot or install if i press anything it freezes
[19:24] <escott> heatherr_, i think what you are reading there is different. X being messed up should be unrelated to the kernel framebuffer mode
[19:24] <lion42> Today on ubuntu, discovering if I can make a braille embosser older than christ himself work with linux.
[19:24] <edbian> ubuntunewb: that link I gave is misleading I think.
[19:24] <heatherr_> okay, thanks escott
[19:24] <heatherr_> i guess i will try to reinstall?  is there a better way than from loading the cd?
[19:24] <sobersabre> what are my options to force window geometry (size+position) to an application (that does not adhere classic XWindows "--geometry=" approach)
[19:25] <escott> heatherr_, i wasn't reading things earlier so what does happen during your boot. what do you see?
[19:25] <edbian> ubuntunewb: hang on
[19:25] <noneabove> anyone know whats happening with my computer ?
[19:25] <escott> noneabove, what is the text
[19:26] <noneabove> i can reboot to look but it shows two lines then on the second line at the end of it its like ............................ready
[19:26] <JasonO> escott: Here it is. http://paste.ubuntu.com/662140/
[19:26] <noneabove> then theres the flashing cursor and nothing happens
[19:26] <edbian> ubuntunewb: http://www.ehow.com/how_8702444_switch-ipod-msc-mode.html
[19:26] <noneabove> escott, meant to tag you
[19:26] <heatherr_> escott: when it loads, i see some weird white and black stripey things, but then it lets me login, and then it flashes from the background screen, to a black screen with a box with login info and a place to put my password
[19:27] <escott> JasonO, sorry should have warned you about uuid. partition numbers sda1 sda2 can change if you repartition. the 39ec is a unique identifier for you / partition. so sda1 is listed twice in /etc/fstab. remove the bottom listing of 39ec...
[19:27] <ubuntunewb> edbian: is that permanent ?
[19:27] <ubuntunewb> or just for itunes??
[19:27] <edbian> ubuntunewb: There might be a way to do it on the ipod without using a computer with itunes.  You'll have to look at the settings of the ipod
[19:28] <escott> noneabove, we need to know what those words are
[19:28] <edbian> ubuntunewb: It's not permanent, you can change it back.
[19:28] <heatherr_> escott: okay, so right now, i have a thing that says "GNU GRUB version ..." and then 5 options, Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode) memory test, memory test, and windows"
[19:28] <noneabove> escott, alright ill reboot and rejoin, brb in like 5 min
[19:28] <JasonO> escott: You mean everything under UUID=39ec5cf9-e94d-411f-ba1f-e1d9063e0231 /               ext4    ?
[19:28] <ubuntunewb> i mean like when you tell it to go msc
[19:28] <ubuntunewb> does it stay in msc
[19:28] <escott> JasonO, no the one at the bottom the one that mentions /media/home
[19:28] <edbian> ubuntunewb: You can change it if you want.
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: It stays until you change it again
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> oh
[19:29] <escott> JasonO, the one after /dev/fd0
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> so i could change it and it would mount on ubuntu?
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: yes
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> SWEET
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> TYVM!
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: sure
[19:30] <ubuntunewb> -brb
[19:30] <ubuntunewb> goin to change it
[19:30] <JasonO> escott: You mean the # (identifier) an below?
[19:31] <noneabove_> escott, ive got the text
[19:31] <escott> JasonO, yes
[19:31] <noneabove_> escott, want me to just type it in now?
[19:32] <coraxx> dr_willis: I NOW HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR MY VIRTUALBOX ISSUE !! ...WANNA HEAR ?
[19:32] <Ramses> of course
[19:32] <dr_willis> coraxx,  you read the manual? :)
[19:32] <Rajon9Rondo> Hello. Can someone help me?
[19:32] <coraxx> dr_willis: ha ha...very funny ;-)
[19:32] <Pici> !ask | Rajon9Rondo
[19:32] <edbian> Rajon9Rondo: yes probably
[19:32] <Ramses> Rajon9Rondo what you need?
[19:32] <JasonO> escott: I can't remove. Should I change the file properties?
[19:32] <dr_willis> coraxx,  some check box you had to find? or was it somthing so complex i wont rember?
[19:33] <escott> heatherr_, "i see some weird white and black stripey things" -- the X test pattern most likely. which shows that X is starting.  not sure why you are getting two login screens. but you may want to update your X driver
[19:33] <escott> noneabove_, unless it is really long in which case !paste otherwise please type it in
[19:33] <noneabove_> escott here it is when youre ready : Loading /casper/vmlinuz(and a letter i cant read sadly cause of flash) nextline > Loading /casper/initrd.lz.........................ready
[19:33] <escott> JasonO, sorry sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:33] <Rajon9Rondo> I need to change the public IP
[19:33] <coraxx> dr_willis: as of version 4.0 (when Oracle took over Sun Microsystems), VirtualBox requires an 'extra' installation of an extions-pack ...within that the VRDP is implemented.
[19:33] <noneabove_> escott. well as you can tell there it is :P
[19:33] <ole_oz6oh> test
[19:34] <coraxx> dr_willis: *extension-pack
[19:34] <dr_willis> coraxx,  golly!
[19:34] <Ramses> Rajon9Rondo this is easy
[19:34] <escott> noneabove_, ok you are trying to install then. what iso did you download
[19:34] <JasonO> escott:  Done.
[19:34] <coraxx> dr_willis: I knew the answer was simple.  Its just annoying that the feauture is shows as 'available' even tho the extension-pack is NOT installed
[19:34] <noneabove_> escott, the one off the site, ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:34] <ubuntunewb> edbian you still there
[19:34] <escott> JasonO, you can sudo umount /media/home or just reboot. it shouldn't be there anymore
[19:35] <escott> noneabove_, did you check the md5sums?
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> i got a slight problem
[19:35] <escott> !md5sum | noneabove_
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> theres no summary tab
[19:35] <noneabove_> escott, thanks was about to ask haha
[19:35] <JasonO> escott: Awesome, I will reboot. Brb.
[19:35] <escott> noneabove_, and is your system in fact 64bit
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> never mind
[19:36] <edbian> ubuntunewb: :)
[19:36] <Rajon9Rondo> How I can do it?
[19:36] <noneabove_> escott yes i have a 64 bit processor, and i was running the same iso using WUBI before but decided to do it the official way
[19:36] <ubuntunewb> edbian: im going to try and find that setting
[19:36] <ubuntunewb> i'll be back if i cant find it
[19:37] <escott> noneabove_, can you test that disk on another computer just in case it got burned wrong
[19:37] <noneabove_> sure give me a couple mins
[19:38] <ubuntunewb> by the way
[19:39] <ubuntunewb> is zune supported on  ubuntu?
[19:39] <robbmunson> ubuntunewb, doubt it.
[19:39] <ubuntunewb> T_T
[19:39] <edbian> ubuntunewb: If you can put it in msc mode
[19:40] <ubuntunewb> io
[19:40] <ubuntunewb> o
[19:40] <mattalexx> I'm getting a hang on startup. What could be the problem? http://i.imgur.com/KVtUB.jpg
[19:40] <Rajon9Rondo> How I can Change the public IP?
[19:40] <Rajon9Rondo> please..
[19:40] <edbian> Rajon9Rondo: You cannot.  The ISP determines that.
[19:41] <mattalexx> Rajon9Rondo, I pay for a static IP that never changes.
[19:41] <morfix> edbian: Is there a way I can recreate the look of a terminal when it installs a package?
[19:41] <Fuchs> mattalexx: it goes for a reboot, so it doesn't look like a hang
[19:41] <edbian> mattalexx: The broadcast message from root@mingus indicates the system decided it was going to shut down at that point.  Haha, so it's shutting itself down
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: you could use virtualbox closed version for usb access and access it that way
[19:41] <edbian> morfix: what?
[19:41] <Fuchs> mattalexx: possible reasons are a filesystem check, something in the autostart which does a reboot or an init script which does that
[19:42] <ubuntunewb> yeah
[19:42] <mattalexx> Oh, I see. I thought this was during startup but it happened during shutdown. I was restarting
[19:42] <noneabove_> escott : yea im trying to use it on another computer but its an old ibm and i cant figure out its bios XD is there someother way i can tell ?
[19:42] <edbian> mattalexx: Did you call the reboot?
[19:43] <Fuchs> mattalexx: in that case it might be a filesystem which takes long to unmount   (e.g. NFS or CIFS which lost it's connection), or simply an ACPI issue. Is this reproducible?
[19:43] <escott> noneabove_, the older system probably isn't 64bit anyways
[19:43] <ricky108> anyone from Ireland???
[19:43] <noneabove_> escott; oh frig right haha
[19:43] <ubuntunewb> is there a player that does videos and plays music and works with ubuntu?
[19:43] <noneabove_> escott; so then nvm i dont
[19:43] <edbian> ubuntunewb: tons of them
[19:43] <Rajon9Rondo> In windows you can do it with a .bat and I thought that would be something like in ubuntu
[19:43] <edbian> ubuntunewb: anything that has msc mode
[19:43] <RA_drc> if i forget a username/password for a user, what can i do to reset it?
[19:44] <ole_oz6oh> test
[19:44] <ubuntunewb> list a few please
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: cowon s9
[19:44] <Fuchs> RA_drc: if you have the username, you can use the "passwd" command as root (either with sudo or boot into single user mode
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: that's what I use :)
[19:44] <thealphanerd> anyone know how to remove grub form my bootloader using a macbook pro?
[19:44] <escott> noneabove_, usually in this situation one would suspect the install media is corrupted. you can boot your wubi and take an md5sum of /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom to see if it burned correctly. if it did burn correctly you could try the alternate installer
[19:44] <ubuntunewb> i want something that's not too expensive but can play videos
[19:44] <JasonO> escott: It worked! :) Thank you.
[19:44] <Fuchs> PauloRFP: if you do not have the username, you can have a look at a list of users in /etc/passwd
[19:44] <noneabove_> alternate installer?
[19:44] <Toph2> ubottu,,, they are all free
[19:44] <RA_drc> Fuchs: what if you don't know the root password, and you are in single user mode
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: This is ubuntu support not music player support.  Ask in #anythingbutipod
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott; alternate installer?
[19:45] <ubuntunewb> ok
[19:45] <escott> JasonO, np sorry
[19:45] <ubuntunewb> alright
[19:45] <Fuchs> RA_drc: you don't need a password in single user mode
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott: and do you think it would help to redo the setup of the usb? or reinstalling the iso ?
[19:45] <ricky108> anyone form Ireland
[19:45] <Fuchs> RA_drc: you can simply use the passwd command
[19:45] <JasonO> escott: Can you help me regain more space?
[19:45] <sytyi> hello to everybody, Can anybody advice a tool to count all unique messages in file. The file lines are in format file: line: message.
[19:45] <escott> noneabove_, text mode installer. it might not have the same problems
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott where do i learn about that ?
[19:45] <Fuchs> sytyi: a combination of awk, sort -u and wc -l
[19:46] <sytyi> Fuchs: thanks
[19:46] <Fuchs> sytyi: so basically something along the lines   cat file | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u | wc -l    or so
[19:46] <escott> JasonO, with all these extra mounts all over the place the disk usage analyzer can be easily confused. i would recommend using gparted to identify the true disk usage
[19:46] <Fuchs> (not pretty, working)
[19:46] <escott> noneabove_, ok so this is a usb. you might try a cd in case your bios doesnt like usb boots. what kind of computer is this?
[19:47] <sytyi> Fuchs: thanks a lot.
[19:47] <noneabove_> hp pavilion dv6
[19:47] <escott> noneabove_, the alternate installer you can download from ubuntu.com
[19:47] <noneabove_> escott; hp pavilion dv6, sorry keep forgetting tag
[19:47] <Fuchs> sytyi: no problem
[19:47] <escott> noneabove_, is that an efi system?
[19:47] <noneabove_> escott; and so then i need to find a cd haha
[19:47] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks for the help.
[19:47] <noneabove_> escottl efi ?
[19:47] <katkee> sytyi: try this http://crunchtools.com/software/petit/
[19:48] <escott> noneabove_, does the bios support your mouse
[19:48] <noneabove_> excott; no
[19:48] <sixstring> Question for command-line people: Why does CTRL+C not kill wget? See http://www.pastie.org/2346568 for log.
[19:48] <sixstring> It looks like wget is spawning a sub-process, but I've never seen wget do this. And Google isn't understanding my queries today. ;)
[19:48] <RA_drc> Fuchs: what about making the root user password blank?  would that be passwd -d root?
[19:49] <Fuchs> RA_drc: that would be a rather stupid idea. What exactly are you trying to achieve?
[19:49] <noneabove_> escott; no it doesnt
[19:49] <RA_drc> Fuchs: yes, it would.  i'm trying to achieve "boss happiness"
[19:50] <Fuchs> RA_drc: well, yes, it should work like that
[19:50] <escott> noneabove_, i would start by making a cd if you have a blank cdr around. i dont know of any issues getting dv6's to boot with the installer, but perhaps there are some
[19:50] <noneabove_> escott; yea sadly i dont have one handy ><
[19:51] <noneabove_> escott; and by handy i mean like at all
[19:51] <lokodomain_> is loving ubuntu and can't believe I've been using windows for so long
[19:51] <sixstring> I've never seen wget spawn sub-processes like this. Not on Centos at least. Nor on ubuntu, that I can recall. Can a server force this?
[19:52] <escott> noneabove_, i guess try the alternate iso. you can make a usb stick with the same usb-creator-gtk
[19:52] <sixstring> lokodomain_, welcome to linux. You're ruined for windows now.
[19:52] <sixstring> I've heard Mac users say the same about OS X. But I don't know...
[19:52] <sytyi> Fuchs: and maybe you can advice how to  change awk '{print $3}' to work with both $4 and until $# ?
[19:52] <lokodomain_> sixstring I hear you I'm fully converted
[19:52] <ole_oz6oh> hugo davs
[19:52] <sixstring> Once you taste freedom, it's hard to go back.
[19:53] <sixstring> Too bad I can't find any wget gurus today.
[19:53] <lokodomain_> having problems setting up phpmyadmin on the test enviroment
[19:53] <Guest27079> ole_><
[19:53] <noneabove> escott: do you think the same one with the same usb would make a difference ?
[19:54] <noneabove> escott: like redoing it
[19:54] <lokodomain_> phpmyadmin user has no priviledges
[19:54] <Guest27079> davs ole
[19:54] <sixstring> oh well. kill -9 does kill wget sub-processes pretty well. so does "killall wget". guess I'll live with that.
[19:54] <escott> noneabove, no idea. its unclear if its a bad stick, or a bad image, or a bios that doesn't like the image, or an image that just isnt going to boot for you
[19:55] <escott> noneabove, you can ask others. tell them you have a dv6 and the amd64 installer is loading the initrd and spontaneously rebooting
[19:55] <Fuchs> sytyi: either by specifing all columns or with a loop,
[19:55] <ole_oz6oh> noget fornuftigt gyll
[19:55] <Fuchs> sytyi: you want to print to the line end? Then cut might be a better idea, to remove the first two parts
[19:55] <noneabove> escott: well its not so much rebooting as just freezing and not accepting any keyboard input. :S
[19:55] <sytyi> Fuchs: thank you. I just was not sure there are not some magic there
[19:56] <Fuchs> sytyi: probably you are better off with cut, if the message contains white spaces, yes
[19:56] <ole_oz6oh> Guest27079  her er jeg
[19:56] <Fuchs> (or you change the field separator to something else)
[19:56] <noneabove> escott: but anyways where would you suggest i ask this ?
[19:56] <sytyi> Fuchs: cut first $1 and $2
[19:56] <lokodomain_> phpmyadmin user has no privildeges and I dont know why.  Just set up and installed from command line with LAMP and I can't create a database..? any clues
[19:56] <escott> noneabove, here is as good a place as any. i know there were some other dv6s that were working in the channel an hour or so ago
[19:56] <Fuchs> sytyi: cut -f 3- as a command
[19:57] <Fuchs> sytyi: cut -f 3- file | sort -u | wc -l
[19:57] <Fuchs> however, this will take whitespace as a separator as well, so if the first two colums have withespaces, this is a bad idea
[19:57] <noneabove> escott: alright sure thanks
[19:58] <jjjjj> hej hugo
[19:58] <ole_oz6oh> hej hugo
[19:58] <noneabove> Hey guys I've got a problem with my HP Pavilion dv6 not booting off of my usb properly, has anyone else encountered/gotten past this problem?
[19:58] <noneabove> escott: and thanks for all your help
[19:58] <sytyi> Fuchs: simple filename, line#, so thank you very much
[19:59] <Fuchs> sytyi: well, are you sure that the filename does not contain whitespaces?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> noneabove: what is the issue?
[19:59] <Fuchs> else one might want to take a regular expression or so
[19:59] <sytyi> Fuchs: I'm sure. It's one file with many lines
[19:59] <Fuchs> okay
[19:59] <Fuchs> then you can use cut
[20:00] <noneabove> ActionParsnip: when i get to the screen where you choose like run or install and such, it freezes if i press any keys on my keyboard, and if i just wait for it to use the selected item i get to it loading initrd and then it just sits there doing nothing
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> noneabove: what video chip do you use?
[20:01] <noneabove> ActionParsnip: changing names becase im going to try again with my usb re-done, im noneabove1182
[20:02] <lokodomain_> having a problem with phpmyadmin on new LAMP installation.  User can't create  any databases and has no priviledges
[20:02] <lokodomain_> any help
[20:02] <lokodomain_> would be much appreciated
[20:02] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: i have switchable graphics but its an AMD 6XXXM i can be more specific if needed would just need to search for it
[20:03] <aayslan> amanda
[20:03] <escott> noneabove1182, can you force it to a particular graphics processor for the install (preferably the intel)
[20:03] <aayslan> aayslan
[20:04] <noneabove1182> escott: i have no idea how to, the switchable graphics are a little odd, but the intel one seems to usually be the default one anyways
[20:04] <melanie_> good evening
[20:05] <escott> noneabove1182, the important thing would be to disable the switchable graphics, and force the system to use one. there hopefully is a bios option
[20:06] <noneabove1182> escott: ive done some searching in the bios about the graphics card but cant usually find one.. either way now my laptop seems to have frozen after reformating the usb :/
[20:06] <temoto_> How to disable banshee popup when song changes?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: oh, those things are a massive pain.
[20:07] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: tell me about it
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: I suggest you use the nomodeset bootoption
[20:07] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: i wish i knew what that meant
[20:08] <RA_drc> how do i restart from the command line?  do i use shutdown -r -t time ?
[20:08] <melanie_> RA_drc: 'reboot' also works.
[20:08] <llutz> RA_drc: sudo reboot
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | noneabove1182
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: nobody is BORN knowing either, use the web to find out
[20:09] <RA_drc> melanie_:  llutz that works even better, thanks!
[20:09] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip thanks haha just had no idea where i would start, ill check the page out
[20:10] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip oh, not sure if this is relevant, but im doing this from usb
[20:10] <escott> noneabove1182, it is
[20:10] <noneabove1182> escott: i just meant for what he was talking about, but yea figures it is
[20:11] <ResQue> ecit
[20:11] <ResQue> exit
[20:11] <ResQue> exit
[20:11] <escott> noneabove1182, if you go back to wubi, and open your usb stick in nautilus and navigate to /boot/grub
[20:11] <FloodBot1> ResQue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <lion42> ...
[20:11] <lion42> rofl.
[20:11] <mfilipe> anyone knows if project hamster has support to Unity?
[20:11] <SirShmoopy> okay, I'm trying to install grub on a flash drive, ends with an error saying there is no grub drive for dev/sdb1?
[20:12] <escott> noneabove1182, you can hand edit your grub.conf to include nomodeset (if the usb doesn't give you a grub boot menu)
[20:12] <noneabove1182> escott: wow im confused XD
[20:14] <escott> noneabove1182, boot back into wubi and plug in the usb. open your file manager and find your usb stick and go to "boot/grub" and then open grub.cfg with a text editor find the lines (there are three of them) that says linux blah blah blah splash and add after splash nomodeset
[20:14] <noneabove1182> escott, ActionParsnip, well im going to try to redo the usb install thing, like install the stuff on the usb again, and then see what happens
[20:15] <noneabove1182> escott: oh okay ill take a print screen of this and use it later
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: remember to MD5 test the image
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: could always try the alternate ISO too (installs in text mode but gives a desktop OS)
[20:16] <JasonGriffee> how do i get my sansa fuze to be recognized by ubuntu as a mp3 device and not a mass storage unit?
[20:17] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip well it froze during the install process (on the usb
[20:17] <edbian> JasonGriffee: switch it from msc to mtp (somewhere in the settings on the device)
[20:17] <SirShmoopy> alternatively, does anyone know how to boot from several isos on a flash drive?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: worth a try
[20:18] <edbian> JasonGriffee: I am not sure ubuntu is able to use it as an MTP device.  I recommend you just put music on it like a jump drive
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> SirShmoopy: grub2 can boot ISOs so you can add them to grub.cfg and bot what you want
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> *boot
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> ActionParsnip, ive been trying to do that, but it fails
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/sdb1 failed.
[20:19] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: god my computer is dieing for whatever reason.... universal usb installer keeps not responding
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: is the ram healthy
[20:19] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip healthy in what way ?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: there is a test on the install media to test the RAM
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: you can also install using CD if you have an optical drive
[20:20] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip yea just done have a CD available
[20:20] <JasonGriffee> edbian: now it doesn't reconize it at all
[20:20] <JasonGriffee> it asks what to do, then unmounts it
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: could use the minimal ISO and then very little will be needed of the USB
[20:20] <edbian> JasonGriffee: yeah, I thought that would happen.
[20:21] <edbian> JasonGriffee: Just use it in MSC mode
[20:21] <anonymous2k> hi guys
[20:21] <edbian> anonymous2k: hello
[20:21] <quem> i've had an issue for a while that i can't quite figure out. whenever flash with sound is played by the browser... sound doesn't work in any other applications.. but i can play sound with several different other programs simultaneously.
[20:22] <ih8ipod> does sansa fuse (not the + the original) work with ubuntu 11.04?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> quem: can you give the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf        Thanks
[20:23] <SirShmoopy> JasonGriffee, how is it not working? when i plug mine in i can access it from banshee/rhythmbox or nautilus
[20:23] <quem> ActionParsnip: sure. where do you want it?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> quem: any pastebin you like
[20:24] <quem> what happened to pastebin.ca?
[20:24] <Suluiene> anyone use ubuntu as a virtual pc w/ windows host?  i tried using Oracle VirtualBox but, it made a teeny tiny window.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> http://pastie.org  quem
[20:26] <quem> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/private/jggjylponao330aaz8lawq
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> quem: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[20:27] <seanp2k> 'file' doesn't correctly identify SVG images.  There is no SVG entry in /usr/share/file/magic .
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> quem: gives 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[20:27] <auronandace> Suluiene: install the virtualbox guest additions and then set the resolution in the guest (ubuntu)
[20:28] <quem> ActionParsnip: ah. thanks.
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[20:28] <FloodBot1> snapperss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> seanp2k: I imagemagick gives the command identify which will give LOTS of data about an image
[20:28] <xangua> hate that
[20:29] <seanp2k> ActionParsnip: the problem is with PHP tho -- is picking up the wrong MIME type and causing problems
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> seanp2k: i see, i don't know anything there personally dude, maybe others can help
[20:30] <seanp2k> ActionParsnip: koo thx
[20:30] <im2ee> Iconia sent me. :)
[20:31] <Suluiene> auronandace: thought i did... perhaps i didn't or did it wrong.  i'll try again.  ty
[20:31] <quem> ActionParsnip: the issue seems to persist. (restarted the browser.)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> quem: is flash ok (or smoother)?
[20:31] <oledole2> Q: So I'm moving my boot/system disk to another disk, and have set up a 100MB /dev/sdb1 for the boot partition, and the rest for LVM at /dev/sdb2. How do I install GRUB onto sdb now, so that when I remove sda everything will work as expected? THanks
[20:33] <quem> ActionParsnip: seems to be. can't tell any difference
[20:33] <Jengerer> Not a Ubuntu-specific question, but since Unix style permissions only have one group and one user as owners, is it not possible to have, say, one group have rw, and another to have r, and other to have no permissions?
[20:34] <jrib> Jengerer: Access Control Lists (man setfacl, man getfacl, remember to add the "acl" option to your fstab)
[20:34] <IdleOne> Jengerer: probably better to ask in ##linux and see what jrib said
[20:34] <hiroko> hi, does anyone know which unicode version is used in natty?
[20:35] <Jengerer> Alright, thanks.
[20:35] <JasonGriffee> edbian: i switched it from auto to msc, i still have some hangups, but i can sync it
[20:35] <genii-around> !info unicode natty
[20:35] <edbian> JasonGriffee: glad to hear it :D
[20:36] <ole_oz6oh> test
[20:36] <JasonGriffee> edbian: ty :)
[20:36] <TimmyT> i want to redirect a socks port to http. i mean i have a socks proxy but my app doesn't support socks and needs http proxy configuration, how can i transport socks into http?
[20:38] <l0ll0lll> hi all. How can i set up static ip address/netmask while using DHCP for gateway and DNS addresses in /etc/network/interface?
[20:39] <ole_oz6oh> test
[20:41] <ole_oz6oh> qz7t de ole
[20:42] <ram0042> anybody using Firefox 5.0?
[20:43] <compdoc> most are, if they update their systems
[20:43] <temoto_> How to disable banshee popup when song changes? [natty]
[20:44] <noneabove1182> hey guys, interesting problem on usb boot now... escott if youre still here, yea... so i tried to do the install on usb thing and everything seemed to work, but now when i boot off usb, i just get a black screen with this message : SYSLINUX 4.04 EDD 2011-04-18 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[20:44] <atwoodm> can anyone answer questions about getting gcc 4.6.1 on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:44] <ram0042> I wanted to ask about moonlight support
[20:44] <noneabove1182> and unless im really impatient, nothing happens from there
[20:45] <Zimsky> Hi. I have gnu screen set up, but how do I suspend a session after I have resumed one?
[20:45] <temoto_> atwoodm, doesn't compile?
[20:45] <ram0042> @noneabove1182 how did you put linux on usb?
[20:45] <temoto_> Zimsky, C-a d
[20:45] <atwoodm> temoto_: aptitude, apt-get are currently reporting 4.5.2 is the newest version
[20:46] <Zimsky> Err, is that a control code?
[20:46] <noneabove1182> anyone able to offer some help?
[20:46] <temoto_> Zimsky, Ctrl+a, d
[20:46] <ram0042> I may be able to help you
[20:46] <Zimsky> Ok
[20:46] <Dulak> Zimsky: Ctrl-a d does a detach
[20:46] <noneabove1182> ram0042; was that to me?
[20:46] <temoto_> Seems like a suspend for me.
[20:46] <Zimsky> Yeah, I meant detach
[20:46] <ram0042> noneabove1182 yes
[20:46] <atwoodm> temoto_: do you have to get 4.6 from source?
[20:46] <Zimsky> Thanks. It works.
[20:46] <ram0042> i asked
[20:47] <noneabove1182> ram0042; alright, what can you tell me?
[20:48] <atwoodm> temoto_: ?
[20:48] <ram0042> noneabove1182; what did you use to get Ubuntu on usb?
[20:49] <noneabove1182> ram0042 Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.0
[20:49] <oz7t> test
[20:49] <ram0042> noneabove1182; from pendrivelinux?
[20:50] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: that black screen is what you get before ubuntu kicks in
[20:50] <treebeen> i'm trying to find information on how to boot ubuntu from PXE without nfs. any tips? other distros allow the parameter 'fetch=http://..." to specify the squashfs but this doesn't seem to work here...
[20:50] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what sorry? if it helps i followed the directions on ubuntus site (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download) word ofr word
[20:50] <atwoodm> anyone else having trouble getting gcc 4.6.1 on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:50] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG are you saying i have to wait a bit?
[20:51] <ram0042> noneabove1182; you're on Windows?
[20:51] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: yes wait
[20:51] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yes
[20:51] <noneabove1182> ram0042 to want me to go reboot and wait like ChristopherNG suggested?\
[20:51] <noneabove1182> also ChristopherNG how long?
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: it should be a few seconds and then you will get a few seconds before a purple screen comes on
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: give it a few mins
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> then come back if you have the same problem
[20:52] <ram0042> noneabove1182; no it will not work but it is up to you
[20:52] <RA_drc> how can i download apt-get to a machine that doesn't have apt-get?
[20:52] <temoto_> atwoodm, getting it from source is a good way.
[20:52] <noneabove1182> ram0042 why do you say it wont? i mean, tell me what you think is happening
[20:52] <IdleOne> RA_drc: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:52] <oz7t> hello friends i am looking for people working with graphic in ubuntu with gcc and other programmes
[20:53] <AviMarcus> Hey. I'm on 11.10 and libre office keeps crashing
[20:53] <IdleOne> !11.10
[20:53] <AviMarcus> where do I find crash logs?
[20:53] <ram0042> noneabove1182; just a bad copy. I have this happend before and have waited half an hour and nothing happens
[20:53] <AviMarcus> erm. I'm on 11.04? Katya, actually :x
[20:53] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you created a live usb, the peter anvin is the black screen you get before the purpose screen kicks in.
[20:53] <IdleOne> AviMarcus: that is Mint?
[20:53] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what sorry? bad copy of what?
[20:53] <IdleOne> !mint
[20:53] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: try booting from it again and give a minute or two and if it doesnt work then come back is my suggestion
[20:54] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright ill just get a bit more info before trying again
[20:54] <RA_drc> IdleOne: from the command line, how would i get to that?
[20:54] <AviMarcus> yeah. K, thought it might be more generic.
[20:54] <atwoodm> anyideas on why my ubuntu doesnt recognize that gcc 4.5.2 isnt the most current version of gcc?
[20:54] <ram0042> noneabove1182; not the iso but the program didn't copy it right.
[20:54] <jaum> Hello, does anyone know how to install wordpress in ubuntu natty?
[20:54] <IdleOne> RA_drc: you could use wget http://link.to.package
[20:54] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yea im gonna give it another shot like ChristopherNG suggested, and if it doesnt work ill come back and maybe try reformating the USB and reinstalling it
[20:54] <ChristopherNG> jaum: did you check the repositories and see if a ppa is available?
[20:55] <ram0042> noneabove1182; sounds good. I will be here
[20:55] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ChristopherNG ill be back in 5-10 min if it doesnt work, if it does then ill try to get on ubuntus firefox asap to let you know or go on another comp to tell
[20:55] <auronandace> !info wordpress | jaum
[20:56] <IdleOne> RA_drc: you also need to get the depends to go along with apt. see http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/apt
[20:56] <JasonGriffee> how do i rip my cds as mp3? wasn't that codec suppose to be installable with the os?
[20:56] <atwoodm> Any ideas on why apptitude and apt-get dont recognized that gcc 4.5.2 is not the most current version
[20:56] <jaum> There is a weblog manager (wordpress) when I search the word "wordpress" in the central programs of ubuntu, I know, another day intalalei him, but managed to get in, how do I ....?
[20:57] <auronandace> !latest | atwoodm
[20:57] <PauloRFP> olha
[20:57] <jaum> !info wordpress
[20:57] <atwoodm> ubottu: i got 9.04 to update to it, not sure why 11.04 wouldnt
[20:57] <PauloRFP> qual o canal do brasil
[20:57] <atwoodm> !backports
[20:58] <auronandace> jaum: sudo apt-get install wordpress
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> !brazil | PauloRFP
[20:59] <jaum> I did the command in the terminal, are installing
[20:59] <ChristopherNG> jaum: well thats good your all set
[20:59] <oledole2> Okey, now I'm really confused. My Ubuntu 10.04 system has the root filesystem under LVM, with a directory named /boot, which has all the kernels I've upgraded recently. Apart from that the boot disk does not have a separate boot parition. How does that work? I thought GRUB could not work with LVM and that a separate boot partition was needed?
[20:59] <ChristopherNG> auronandace: I did ask him if he checked the repositories and to see if there was a ppa available on launchpad, I dont think he checked
[20:59] <jaum> ready, just here, how do you start?wordpress
[21:00] <ChristopherNG> jaum, type wordpress
[21:00] <jahman_> mike are you ready
[21:00] <ChristopherNG> jaum: in a terminal
[21:00] <auronandace> ChristopherNG: yeah, i noticed you told him
[21:00] <cdeszaq> Is it possible to use packages from the universe repository that are target at a different version of ubuntu?
[21:01] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: what do you mean exactly?
[21:01] <jaum> command not found
[21:01] <xangua> cdeszaq: if you mean mix repositories , bad idea
[21:01] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: Other versions of ubuntu like xubuntu and kubuntu use the same ubuntu repositories
[21:01] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: I need to use Tomcat 7, and I see that it is in the universe repo for "oneric". I'd rather use apt to install it rather than doing it manually if possible
[21:02] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: ppa?
[21:02] <cdeszaq> what's ppa?
[21:02] <ChristopherNG> see if there is a ppa on launchpad for it
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[21:03] <xiaoy> How can i get flas player plugin updated in ubuntu?
[21:03] <jaum> wordpress type terminal, command not found
[21:03] <noneabove1182> ram0042 well as you predicted, nothing
[21:03] <ChristopherNG> xiaoy: open a terminal type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:03] <edbian> xiaoy: sudo apt-get insta...
[21:03] <noneabove1182> ram0042 so would you suggest trying to redo the usb?
[21:03] <edbian> ChristopherNG: darn it
[21:03] <ram0042> noneabove1182 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows <---try that one
[21:04] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: There doesn't seem to be a ppa for Tomcat 7
[21:04] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG yea its annoying DX
[21:04] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: you have checked launchpad and there is no ppa?
[21:04] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: did the usb boot work this time?
[21:04] <jaum> hlep
[21:04] <jaum> help
[21:04] <xiaoy> CraHan, ediban: i have it installed already
[21:04] <ole_oz6oh> hello friends is xchat for xpwindows the same as xchat in ubuntu ?
[21:04] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG nope, still frozen on screen
[21:05] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what am i following from there sorry?
[21:05] <xiaoy> i want to upgrade it without upgrade my ubuntu version
[21:05] <ChristopherNG> jaum: have a look under applications it will be under there somewhere
[21:05] <Y2k> ку ку есть кто?=)
[21:05] <ram0042> noneabove1182 can you extract the iso?
[21:06] <tjiggi_fo> !br | jaum
[21:06] <ObrienDave> question: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:06] <noneabove1182> ram0042 you mean like right click and hit extract? if so, no
[21:06] <ChristopherNG> ram0042: I think we should first make sure that his iso is not damaged, perhaps doing a md5sum on his iso in windows before formatting the usb
[21:06] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: yes, I entered "Tomcat" in the search bar, and there are only 21 results. None of them look to be for Tomcat 7
[21:06] <HazLT> good evening, i want to upgrade my ubuntu 11.04 java version to the latest one, how can i do it?
[21:06] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG or i could just download a whole new one
[21:06] <ram0042> noneabove1182, do you have such md5 checking software?
[21:07] <xangua> xiaoy: upgrade withouth upgrade¿ how exactly do you want to acomplish that¿ Please  Be Clear
[21:07] <noneabove1182> ram0042 i downloaded something earlier, some cygwin thing
[21:07] <xangua> HazLT: download it from the java site and install it manually
[21:07] <xangua> !latest
[21:07] <ram0042> noneabove1182, ok that works
[21:07] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: Sorry not sure in that case
[21:08] <xiaoy> xangua, hmm, ususally the flash plugin is a file (libflashplayer.so), so i download it and i copy it in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/???
[21:08] <ram0042> noneabove1182, wait. Does cygwin have dd comand?
[21:08] <xiaoy> with ubuntu i don't actually understand the right path of the flash plugin
[21:08] <edbian> xiaoy: The package does that for you. (at least it should)
[21:08] <noneabove1182> ram0042 dd ?
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes. it is a command. is it able to do it?
[21:09] <xangua> xiaoy: no idea what are you trying to say, to install the flash plugin: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:09] <xiaoy> edbian, the pkg version is too old, i need the new one to watch bbc videos
[21:09] <xiaoy> xangua, no problem :)
[21:09] <noneabove1182> want me to just type dd into it and see what happens?
[21:09] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ^
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, or man dd
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, "man dd"
[21:09] <HazLT> how about sun java? is it the same flash plugin?
[21:09] <noneabove1182> nothing seems to be happening
[21:09] <dr_willis> sun java is not flash.
[21:09] <xangua> HazLT: no, they are not the same
[21:10] <tjiggi_fo> noneabove1182, don't mess with dd if you've never used it before!!
[21:10] <ram0042> noneabove1182, ok just try to get some iso extracting software and you might need to get a new copy of the iso
[21:10] <ultrixx> tjiggi_fo: there is a good man page for dd
[21:10] <dr_willis> 'dd' can stand for 'disk destroyer' :) if you dont know how to use it.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> nice
[21:10] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: the best program to use to make a usb stick from windows is imo unetbootin and the best iso to get started with is the ubuntu 10.04 lts 32 bit
[21:11] <melanie_> dr_willis: haha
[21:11] <ChristopherNG> just for future reference
[21:11] <ram0042> ChristopherNG, thanks for bringing that one up.
[21:11] <HazLT> my friend told me that he installed some "sun java" packages and his flash-based sites is opening and working faster. which packets should i install?
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG and if i want 11.04 64bit?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> stands for Data Description
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG just curious how i would get to that
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ram0042 and what if just go and assume its not good and download another one?
[21:13] <ram0042> noneabove1182 you mentioned 64 bit. are you getting that one?
[21:13] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: 11.04 is not as stable as 10.04 and even though i have a 64 bit processor i find that alot of drivers etc and plugins are larger and its not as well supported. you will be downloading twice as much.
[21:13] <ChristopherNG> hence i use the 32 bit iso
[21:13] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yes
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seen this one:     dd if=filename of=filename conv=ucase
[21:13] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  but daam i liked the unity look XD
[21:14] <dr_willis> cant say ive seen a ucase option to that. :)
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: uppercases a file
[21:14] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you can get 11.04 if you want, its your choice, Ive chosen to avoid unity personally
[21:14] <temoto_> You can still use natty without unity, like me.
[21:14] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  fair enough, but you would still suggest 32 over 64 then? id like to just get this install to work
[21:14] <t4nk993> How can I exit script without closing the terminal?
[21:14] <ObrienDave> unity is a pita. i boot into classic no effects.
[21:14] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: I would recommend 32 over 64 yes
[21:14] <dr_willis> t4nk993,  you mean the 'exit' command?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: I just use LXDE
[21:15] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you casn
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: unity2D replaces Classic in Oneiric
[21:15] <DaDog> hello, i had a problem when i tried to install gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04.... anybody knows how to reinstall unity or anything?
[21:15] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you can always make a 64 bit one later, but atleast start with 32 and get a feel for it.
[21:15] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG you dont think theres a noticable difference?
[21:15] <auronandace> !gnome3 | DaDog
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: I've seen a script, I recommend you reinstall
[21:15] <ObrienDave> actionparsnip. tnx.
[21:15] <dr_willis> DaDog,  dident notice all the warnings out about not doing that eh? :)
[21:15] <DaDog> reinstall what?
[21:16] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG well i just figured id rather do this once in one go :P ive already played around with 11.04 using the wubi stuff but wanted to do it properly
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: http://www.ajopaul.com/2011/04/26/ubuntu-11-04-uninstall-gnome3-and-revert-to-gnome-2-x/
[21:16] <t4nk993> dr_willis: yes
[21:16] <JasonGriffee> archive manager says extraction completes successfully, but no file extracted
[21:16] <DaDog> dr_willis yeah :D but i wanted to try xD
[21:16] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: np
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: you MUST have seen the warnings all over. Why did you install it still....
[21:16] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: the great thing about linux is that ammount of choice so do what you feel is right for you
[21:17] <dr_willis> t4nk993,  i think you need to clarify exactly what you are trying to do.  if i run a script via   ./scriptname   it does not close the terminal here.
[21:17] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG yea true, so anyways now i gotta wait for the new one to download, might take awhile with my slow internet haha
[21:18] <DaDog> sorry, i read the warnings ... i did something very stupid i know...
[21:18] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: try using unetbootin this time to make the usb stick, there is alot more tutorials and support out there for it
[21:18]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[21:18] <t4nk993> dr_willis: I wrote a script, with an "exit 1" in there. When I run ". profile", it closes the terminal.
[21:18] <Ramses_> nothing is too stupid
[21:18] <melanie_> t4nk993: that's correct
[21:19] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright sure, well, ill be off eating while this downloads and hopefully itll be close by the time im done... any last words i should know before i leave and try this on my own later ?
[21:19] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes unetbooting is successful, mostly
[21:19] <melanie_> t4nk993: the dot prevents the shell from spawning a subprocess for script execution.
[21:19] <DaDog> what can i do for uninstall the gnome ?
[21:19] <SirShmoopy> would i be able to install grub directing to a folder instead of a device?
[21:19] <ram0042> noneabove1182, 32 bit ubuntu works faster than 64 bit on my systems for some reason
[21:19] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: my last advice is make sure you have downloaded the iso fully and make sure you select the correct usb drive to create the live usb
[21:20] <t4nk993> melanie_: silly me, I wanted to do ./profile
[21:20] <t4nk993> Thank you
[21:20] <SirShmoopy> figured id ask before trying it and maybe breaking something
[21:20] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: and use unetbootin
[21:20] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright, thanks, ill be on in like an hour probably so ill give you a ring if youre still on
[21:20] <ChristopherNG> np
[21:21] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG real quick though, i would select 11.04_Live_64 right?
[21:21] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  er, x64, either way
[21:21] <ChristopherNG> you mean the iso name?
[21:22] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG no for the drop down on what im making, i assume the x64 means 64bit
[21:22] <ChristopherNG> yes
[21:22] <Ramses_> of course
[21:22] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll hope that web help me
[21:22] <noneabove1182> and also real quick ChristopherNG, should i have disk image selected?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: i'dreinstall personally
[21:23] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: that means lose all programs and files??
[21:23] <GTAXL> Anybody know why I keep getting errors. I'm just trying to make a snapshots folder for spgrab, but permissions won't work. :/ http://pastebin.com/L29PbW8J
[21:24] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes you should
[21:24] <noneabove1182> ram0042 thanks :)
[21:24] <noneabove1182> kk going now, see yall later!
[21:24] <ram0042> noneabove1182, alright
[21:24] <ole__> why shall i pay for xcat in windows and not in Linux?
[21:24] <ObrienDave> sorry to ask again: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:25] <Ramses_> soon we will be selling commercial copies of Linux
[21:25] <xangua> ole__: that has nothing to do with ubuntu. you can download xchat from xchat.org
[21:25] <tekess> hi.. is anyone having trouble with HDMI output? I'm using my tv as screen and everything worked fine with ubuntu 9, I didn't have to configure anything, but with ubuntu 11 it just won't work
[21:26] <xangua> Ramses_: they are already; free as in freedom not as in free beer
[21:26] <ultrixx> ole__: you can still use xchat in windows for free. get virtualbox and let ubuntu+xchat run in the virtual machine on windows
[21:26] <xangua> !ot
[21:26] <xangua> for years, but a little offtopic here
[21:26] <Ramses_> but we will cherge in double if ti dont fit you your needs
[21:26] <ole__> xangua,  yes i use xchat in my ubuntu and the i can transfre a file but not in windows after 30 days
[21:27] <Ramses_> pardon, we will refund in double in case of problems
[21:27] <Jonn_> excuse-me, can someone please tell me the channel to the C++ programming discussion?
[21:27] <h00k> !alis | Jonn_
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: no as you have backups, right?
[21:27] <Ramses_> such channel dont exist (yet)
[21:27] <Jonn_> great!...thank you
[21:27] <ole__> ultrixx,  ok
[21:28] <Ramses_> I need an x86 assembly channel
[21:28] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: mmm... no i have nor
[21:28] <TrinitronX> can anyone verify that this package link returns a 404: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/ruby1.8/libopenssl-ruby1.8_1.8.6.111-2ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[21:28] <RA_drc> how do i shut down using the command line?  i tried typing shutdown -h -t 10, but it's still giving me a syntax error
[21:29] <ram0042> yup 404  in US
[21:29] <ObrienDave> DaDog. 3 rules of computer ownership... Backup, Backup, BACKUP!!!
[21:29] <xiaoy> So for who might want to know how to get his/her flasplayer plugin updated to the newest version... here is a what i did:
[21:29] <ram0042> "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[21:29] <HazLT> yep, 404
[21:29] <jrib> RA_drc: what do you expect -t to do?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: then you should get one, what if your drive dies, where is your data??
[21:30] <TrinitronX> where does one report apt repo issues?
[21:30] <xiaoy> sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[21:30] <TrinitronX> I cannot currently install this on hardy: apt-get install libopenssl-ruby libopenssl-ruby1.8
[21:30] <HazLT> xiaoy: yeah, im listening
[21:30] <ChristopherNG> RA_drc: "sudo shutdown now"
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: what is the output of the command please? use a pastebin
[21:30] <xiaoy> or if u have it installed sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[21:30] <RA_drc> jrib: i expect -t to give me a delay between the warning and the actual shutdown beginning
[21:30] <ChristopherNG> jrib: -t is for time
[21:30] <DaDog> yeah, i know i know...
[21:30] <xiaoy> then download the tarball of the flsh plugin for linux:
[21:31] <ole__> ultrixx,   try http://212.242.163.129:8080
[21:31] <xiaoy> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/
[21:31] <xiaoy> from here ^ should be ok
[21:31] <RA_drc> ChristopherNG: that works, thanks
[21:31] <jrib> RA_drc: why do you expect -t to do that?  it's not in the documentation for shutdown
[21:31] <ChristopherNG> np
[21:31] <xiaoy> 32 bit and 64 bit versions are both aviable
[21:31] <xiaoy> lets say u have, like i do, a 64 bit ubuntu: so....
[21:31] <RA_drc> jrib: you're right, my mistake.  so if i want to specify a time, i should do "sudo shutdown <some time in minutes>"?
[21:31] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8DsXHP7Z
[21:32] <HazLT> xiaoy: ok thanks, i will try it !
[21:32] <jrib> RA_drc: exactly
[21:32] <xangua> xiaoy: installing flash plugin from rpository works perfectly...
[21:32] <ChristopherNG> RA_drc: you need to use "sudo" as superuser for shutdown
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/install-64bit-flash-from-a-ppa-or-deb/
[21:32] <xiaoy> wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11/flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: its for ubuntu, not slax ;)
[21:32] <RA_drc> jrib: alright, thanks
[21:32] <smulcahy> any tips for software to teach an older person how to use a mouse?
[21:32] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try to uninstall or the plan "b" XD
[21:32] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, please i'm talking about the latest, no repos here, just old linux way
[21:32] <RA_drc> ChristopherNG: interesting, thanks
[21:32] <xiaoy> to watch BBc videos u need always the latest
[21:33] <constantinos> Hello everyone. I've just installed 11.04 and I'm a bit frustrated. In 'Additional Drivers' it says that "The driver is activated but not currently in use". What does it mean?
[21:33] <xiaoy> so where i was...
[21:33] <xiaoy> wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11/flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:33] <gmed> Hi, can someone help me with a instalation problem?
[21:33] <SirShmoopy> is there a way to regress a program i just updated? i upgraded mkvmerge about twenty minutes ago, and now when it runs my system grinds to a near stop while it works
[21:33] <ole__> ultrixx,  can you see me ?
[21:33] <ultrixx> ole__: yes
[21:33] <xiaoy> tar gxvf flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:33] <jimubao> hi there i'm having problems with skype, it is showing another skype instance may exist
[21:33] <ole__> Ultr
[21:33] <xiaoy> cd flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311
[21:33] <jimubao> how can i resolve this problem with out restarting the comp
[21:34] <jimubao> i tried killall skype in terminal already
[21:34] <ole__> ultrixx,  ok thats my webcam
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: old skool is always great :)
[21:34] <xiaoy> sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/share/mozilla/extensions/{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/ubufox@ubuntu.com/plugins
[21:34] <xiaoy> the {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384} dir
[21:34] <xiaoy> is on my pc
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: try changing repo from the US server
[21:34] <xiaoy> you should have your own personal code
[21:35] <jimubao> i'mg getting this error with skype, the other skype instance may exist , how can i resolve this problem without restarting skype
[21:35] <xiaoy> just change to thet dir and copy the libflashplayer.so file there
[21:35] <jimubao> without restarting comp
[21:35] <xiaoy> now open up FF, and u can watch London burning
[21:35] <ole__> ultrixx,  i se your name is susi
[21:36] <SirShmoopy> jimubao, would that include not logging out?
[21:36] <xiaoy> i hope it helps
[21:36] <jimubao> yeah coz i have lots file opend up
[21:36] <zykotick9> jimubao, "ps aux | grep skype" does it list anything?  If so kill the process or process name.
[21:36] <gmed> anyone?
[21:37] <HazLT> xiaoy:  thanks  a lot again :)
[21:37] <ram0042> gmed?
[21:37] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: I'm using the us repo (us.archive.ubuntu.com) for 'hardy' and 'hardy-updates'.... but 'security.ubuntu.com' for 'hardy-security'
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: If you put it in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/ it will be used by all browsers, not just firefox
[21:37] <zykotick9> gmed, ask the real quetsion
[21:37] <ole__> gmed ?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: maybe the repo is being updated
[21:37] <jimubao> zykotick9: how do i kill the process ?
[21:37] <HazLT> jimubao: try to kill it from "system monitor"
[21:37] <ram0042> gmed, installation problem right?
[21:37] <gmed> Instalation freeze when loading partition table (I belive)
[21:37] <zykotick9> jimubao, "kill PID#" or "killall PROCESS_NAME"
[21:38] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, i did that but didn't really work in FF... but yea it should
[21:38] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: Here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/mYtgbq80
[21:38] <ram0042> gmed, get alternative iso
[21:38] <gmed> Live CD works fine, but I can,t install
[21:38] <gmed> ram0042, I did
[21:38] <xiaoy> HazLT, ;-)
[21:38] <zykotick9> jimubao, run either of the above command, then verify with the "ps aux.." again to verify it's killed
[21:38] <gmed> it freezes too
[21:39] <ram0042> gmed, ok are you able to go to system settings during installation>?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: I have it in that folder and in /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/ too, works in Chromium as well :)
[21:39] <gmed> I tried to open GParted, no luck
[21:39] <ole__> gmed you can maybe make an install from an usb
[21:39] <jimubao> i ver tried killall skype
[21:39] <gmed> Yes
[21:39] <jimubao> is still showing 2 skype process
[21:40] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, once u remove the plugin with apt-get it deletes that directory
[21:40] <zykotick9> jimubao, are you sure skype is the process name?
[21:40] <ole__> gmed i have had the same problem with one off my computers
[21:40] <gmed> ram0042, yes, I can
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: try changing the us server to the main server like the bottom lines and it may help
[21:40] <jimubao> jimubao   2207  1.2  2.3 287108 71540 ?        Sl   09:15   0:17 skype
[21:40] <jimubao> jimubao   4067  0.0  0.0  13136  1064 pts/1    S+   09:40   0:00 grep --color=auto skype
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: I thought you were doing it old school
[21:40] <gmed> usb install is not avaliable on BIOS...old machine
[21:40] <zykotick9> jimubao, if you tried kill and it failed it's time for -9.  "killall -9 skype"
[21:40] <ram0042> gmed, ok open up system monitor and run the installation along with it to see if your system is bottlenecking
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> gmed: got a floppy drive?
[21:41] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, yes old school, but first i purged old flshplugin from repos :D
[21:41] <Ramses_> I dont see a floppy for a while now
[21:41] <jimubao> jimubao   4072  0.0  0.0  13132  1060 pts/1    S+   09:41   0:00 grep --color=auto skype
[21:41] <jimubao> still have one more running
[21:41] <gmed> ram0042, i´ll try...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: having the home plugins directory only enabled flash for that userm not really practical in a multiuser system ;)
[21:41] <zykotick9> jimubao, no that's the search ;)
[21:41] <gmed> ActionParsnip. yes, why?
[21:41] <ram0042> gmed, alright
[21:41] <jimubao> zykotick9: so it should work now
[21:41] <Ramses_> I have software to format floppies low level
[21:41] <zykotick9> jimubao, yup
[21:42] <Ramses_> sources I mean
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> gmed: there is a floppy image to boot to which will then boot the USB
[21:42] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, infact the way i did should work for all users
[21:42] <jimubao> zykotick9: nice dude thanks ~ what does killall -9 do ?
[21:42] <jimubao> zykotick9: yeap is working now thanks ^^
[21:42] <gmed> ActionParsnip. really? where?
[21:42] <zykotick9> jimubao, ONLY use that in emergencies - it kills without asking permission
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> gmed: pendrivelinux. Websearch and you will find it
[21:43] <gmed> ram0042, loading CD...
[21:43] <gmed> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> np
[21:44] <Ramses_> I need sources for time travel
[21:44] <jimubao> so kill -9 kill process without permission ?..
[21:44] <zykotick9> jimubao, a regular kill or killall is basically asking a process to stop, the -9 just stops it.
[21:44] <dr_willis> -9 = kill with extreme prejudice :)
[21:44] <gmed> ActionParsnip, I´ll try that if CD does not work
[21:45] <ObrienDave> ok ok one last time: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:45] <cbilljones> Hi, my laptop has only one speaker, any way force mono sound in 11.04?
[21:45] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  you mean a usb hard drive?    Mine boot same as from a usb flash drive.
[21:45] <Ramses_> this is a good idea
[21:45] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  did you do a full install to the usb hard drive?
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, I belive there is no bottleneck, Live CD continue normaly...
[21:46] <gmed> instalation process is Sleeping
[21:46] <ram0042> so it did go through this time or didn't
[21:46] <ram0042> gmed
[21:46] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, yep I have a 2TB usb drive I have n=been trying to use for booting ubuntu. no luck
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, sorry
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, it is still loading
[21:46] <vikingur> Obrien, did you install grub and if yes, where did you install it?
[21:46] <HazLT> how can i see if the latest display drivers is installed on my pc?
[21:46] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  during the install process did you notice it asking where to install grub to?  you could have made sure it got installed to the usb hard drive.
[21:46] <vikingur> *ObrienDave
[21:47] <ram0042> gmed, i want to know if it bottlenecks when the partitoin table shows up
[21:47] <Ramses_> someone need to create fat64
[21:48] <gmed> ram0042, It has never showed up
[21:48] <jimubao> zykotick9: thanks !!
[21:48] <jimubao> zykotick9: works like a charm
[21:48] <zykotick9> jimubao, glad to help
[21:49] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, i tried to use separate partition. installed grub to sda. would not boot. took me hours to fix win7 boot problem after that
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: what video chip do you use?
[21:49] <gmed> ram0042, after selecting "proceed", the second screen, my mouse cursor is in "loading" and stays there
[21:49] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: an old ATI Radeon 9600 series
[21:49] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  Huh? I install to a external usb hard drive, let it use the whole disk. and tell it to put grub on sdb (in that case) and  then told the bios to boot that drive.. worked fine.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: thatwill be supported by the open driver, let me check
[21:50] <vikingur> ObrienDave, in my experience the easiest way to boot ubuntu from a usb drive is to install grub to the mbr *of the usb drive*
[21:50] <HazLT> ok, waitin
[21:51] <Ramses_> now I know that a usb has a mbr, thanks
[21:51] <vikingur> ObrienDave, installing it to the mbr of your local disk would make booting from the usb drive a lot more difficult
[21:51] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, tnx. i have old windows backups on the 2TB. did not want to occupy the whole drive just yet.
[21:51] <vikingur> ObrienDave, you don't need to overwrite the whole drive to install grub to its mbr
[21:51] <dr_willis> if theres no windows OS on the usb drive. you can put grub on its MBR just fine.
[21:52] <dr_willis> and just partition it as you want. ObrienDave
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: is it using the ati driver or the radeon driver?
[21:52] <agent> nick aquarat
[21:52] <agent> bah
[21:53] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: emm, how can i check wich driver it uses?
[21:53] <ObrienDave> vikingur, that's what I thought. will try it again. tnx for the help
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: it'll take a while to run
[21:55] <altangell> hello
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hi altangell
[21:55] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: driver=radeon
[21:57] <altangell> may i ask you where are you from ActionParsnip?
[21:57] <gigenieks> hi all!
[21:57] <Ramses_> hello
[21:57] <HazLT> gigenieks: hi
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> altangell: uk
[21:57] <altangell> hi gigenieks
[21:57] <kreuter> hi #ubuntu.  I'm working on an upstart job definition file; if the job says "start on runlevel [2345]", can I be sure that the network job has already been run?
[21:57] <Ramses_> I will be on a UK prison very soon
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: can't see an update, even Oneiric only has a mildly later version
[21:58] <gigenieks> I have some problems (nothing major), so I wanted to make topic about it.
[21:58] <gigenieks> in Ubuntu Forums
[21:58] <altangell> ok ActionParsnip
[21:58] <altangell> i m from Romania
[21:58] <dr_willis> kreuter,  i think theres some 'depends on' type option in the config to be sure it runs after networking is up. perhaps check some of the other config files.
[21:58] <leelo> altangell: where at in Romania?
[21:58] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: but can i see which version am i using now?
[21:58] <altangell> do you know where is it this country
[21:58] <altangell> ?
[21:58] <altangell> :D
[21:58] <kreuter> dr_willis: thanks
[21:58] <gigenieks> but I can't use stuff like bolding, italic or adding url
[21:58] <gigenieks> by clicking on those icons
[21:59] <jthomas_> cle
[21:59] <gigenieks> it just doesn't show that I can do that
[21:59] <Ramses_> tell me something good about Romania
[21:59] <gigenieks> hope someone understands what I mean
[21:59] <gigenieks> what is problem?
[21:59] <dr_willis> kreuter,  i notice in smbd.conf ---> start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up)
[21:59] <gigenieks> i have Xubuntu
[21:59] <leelo> altangell: I was there last month
[21:59] <gigenieks> few days ago installed it
[22:00] <altangell> Ramses: Romania has a good doctors engineers ... but ther aren t appreciate
[22:00] <altangell> what ele
[22:00] <gmed> ram0042, you there?
[22:00] <leelo> altangell: I was in Bucharest and Brasov
[22:00] <altangell> else
[22:00] <gmed> ram0042, system monitor is open
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[22:00] <padi999> ok, this is only for hardcore people: I bought a USB floppy drive (DeLock). When I plug it,it shows up as "Floppy Drive" in "Computer" but I cannot click it or mount it or connect to the data in any way. Any hints there?
[22:00] <altangell> leelo
[22:00] <Ramses_> I will visit Romania some day
[22:00] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[22:01] <altangell> Romania is wonderfut but a kind of people are very bad
[22:01] <gigenieks> ....
[22:01] <dr_willis> padi999,  try mounting it by hand? with proper sudo mount commands
[22:02] <HazLT> is dracula lived in romania?:)
[22:02] <Ramses_> yes, Dracula lives there
[22:02] <altangell> yes HazLt
[22:02] <padi999> dr_willis, okay, let's see, I googled for "usb mount floppy drive" but so far I didn'tfind the proper command :)
[22:02] <altangell> but many years ago
[22:02] <altangell> :))
[22:02] <Myrtti> !offtopic | altangell
[22:02] <gigenieks> Can someone help me with that or I have to do 2 topics in Forums then? :D
[22:02] <compdoc> I think Dracula sucked
[22:02] <karlo> hi, I had a cool program long time ago that could shot down computer on determined time, do command on determined time, do command when something closes or open.. etc, anybody know name of that program?
[22:03] <altangell> ok
[22:03] <HazLT> awesome, so this is not a myth? :)
[22:03] <altangell> i have a big problem in ubuntu
[22:03] <Ramses_> I know people on the net that is worse than Dracula
[22:03] <altangell> can you help me please
[22:03] <altangell> >
[22:03] <ikonia> altangell: what's the issue
[22:03] <edbian> karlo: at
[22:03] <padi999> altangell, tell the prolem first...
[22:03] <karlo> edbian what?
[22:03] <ring2> what is the replacement for the main logfile /var/log/messages in 11.04?
[22:03] <altangell> oki padi999
[22:03] <kreuter> dr_willis: thanks, I think it's making more sense now.
[22:04] <edbian> karlo: at is a command that tells the computer do this at such and such time
[22:04] <ikonia> ring2: should still be there
[22:04] <altangell> i want to install some programs but i can t
[22:04] <Myrtti> altangell: which programmes and how?
[22:04] <altangell> i don t know how can i do
[22:04] <Ramses_> just missing libraries
[22:04] <ikonia> altangell: how are you trying to do it
[22:04] <gigenieks> O.K. tnx I guess.
[22:04] <S4nD3r> Hi there! How do I solve this problem? http://pastebin.com/qC8Z43RQ
[22:04] <ben_q> hello, is there a simple way of creating a wireless AP from my ubuntu notebook? (internet via ethernet) I want to share the internet with my mobile phone. I tried to create a new connection in the network manager, but it kept connecting and disconnecting on itself until the manager crashed. the phone never saw the network
[22:04] <gigenieks> bye
[22:05] <altangell> so for the first time i have a amd 2400mhz 521 ram hdd 20 rivatnt2
[22:05] <padi999> altangell, what is the problem
[22:05] <Myrtti> gigenieks: what was your question then?
[22:05] <ikonia> altangell: how are you tyring to install the software
[22:05] <karlo> edbian Im looking for a gui program, and it could do something not just on time, it could do something on anything
[22:05] <altangell> and i want to install compiz fusion and
[22:05] <altangell> a moment please
[22:05] <Myrtti> gigenieks: although, did you get any help in #xubuntu?
[22:06] <altangell> sudo? apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[22:06] <altangell> Avant Windows Manager
[22:06] <edbian> karlo: I've never seen anything like that.  It might exist :)
[22:06] <ikonia> altangell: ok - so what's the problem
[22:06] <karlo> edbian I had it, and forgot the name :/
[22:06] <Ramses_> why you dont install it manually?
[22:06] <altangell> i tried with synaptic and add/remove and sudo
[22:07] <iceroot> karlo: so you are searching for a gui to use cron?
[22:07] <ikonia> altangell: what's the actuall problem/error/warning
[22:07] <iceroot> karlo: like the task-planer on windows
[22:07] <vuth> flush torrent program is not showing up on my desktop but it is active..any one uses flush and cn get it to work?
[22:07] <altangell> ikonia the driver nvidia is enable compiz is installed but isnt working
[22:07] <karlo> iceroot I guess
[22:07] <Ramses_> just hex edit each binary and try to figure out what libraries are missing
[22:07] <ram0042> gmed, still nothing?
[22:07] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: I just tried changing only security.ubuntu.com to 'archive.ubuntu.com'... but then got errors on apt-get update for the 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' servers :-P
[22:08] <altangell> also Avant Windows Manager
[22:08] <ikonia> altangell: sorry, I'm not helping you with that
[22:08] <altangell> why ikonia
[22:08] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: Changing them both to 'archive.ubuntu.com' did work
[22:08] <impostor> lpl
[22:08] <gigenieks> Myrtti: I have some problem (not important what) and I wanted to post "new thread" in Ubuntu Forums, BUT I can't make full use of possibilities (meaning editing text (colors, bolding, adding urls etc)) I can only post PURE text... Issue is that I can't click (in other words when I click for example on B nothing happens there is no [B][/B] on screen) on any icons (even smilies!)
[22:08] <gmed> ram0042, nothing
[22:08] <TrinitronX> must be updating the repos now
[22:08] <gigenieks> Xubuntu is empty now
[22:08] <iceroot> karlo: maybe the program "gnome-schedule" is what you are looking for
[22:08] <error> message
[22:08] <Berkut> \List
[22:08] <error> message 461
[22:08] <gmed> ram0042, system monitor is open, almost no cpu usage
[22:08] <error> message
[22:09] <error> message
[22:09] <Berkut> hi
[22:09] <ikonia> gigenieks: people are giving you advice in #xubuntu now
[22:09] <error> message 4656234306983629402
[22:09] <impostor> h
[22:09] <error> message windows alert
[22:09] <altangell> may i ask a simple question ?
[22:09] <error> message
[22:09] <FloodBot1> error: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <error> meesage
[22:09] <iceroot> error: stop it
[22:09] <altangell> compiz working with riva tnt2 ?
[22:09] <karlo> iceroot, no :/
[22:09] <ikonia> karlo: no what ?
[22:09] <iceroot> karlo: then what you are looking for exactly?
[22:09] <error> message ice root
[22:09] <error> message
[22:09] <error> message
[22:10] <error> message
[22:10] <FloodBot1> error: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <ikonia> on it
[22:10] <gigenieks> ikonia: 1 guy only :D
[22:10] <locodir-user__> Anyone using a wacom? do you know how to configure left and right limits?
[22:10] <Ramses_> how many years I need to wait for time travel in software?
[22:10] <ikonia> gigenieks: yes, but the advice is correct
[22:10] <gmed> ram0042, instalation is in background, window is open and process is sleeping
[22:10] <gigenieks> I havent asked him even yet
[22:11] <gigenieks> ...
[22:11] <HazLT> checked my pc hardware configuration with "sudo lshw -C cpu" and noticed that my AMD Athlon has "size=1100MHz" and "capacity=3200MHz" what does it mean, can i upgrade it to 3200Mhz??
[22:11] <ikonia> gigenieks: he's responded,
[22:11] <erroralert> hi
[22:11] <erroralert> hi
[22:11] <erroralert> hi
[22:11] <FloodBot1> erroralert: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <karlo> iceroot, program that can execute command on any event or time
[22:11] <altangell> padi999: are you here ?
[22:12] <iceroot> karlo: what event exactly?
[22:12] <gmed> ActionParsnip, It seems pendrivelinux from floppy is obsolete
[22:12] <gigenieks> ikonia: he responded about DIFFERENT question
[22:12] <iceroot> karlo: time based? or triggered by something else?
[22:12] <ikonia> gigenieks: if you ask more questions, people will respond
[22:12] <compdoc> HazLT, do you know the cpu model?
[22:12] <Myrtti> gigenieks: have you tried other browsers?
[22:13] <gigenieks> No
[22:13] <locodir-user__> Anyone using a wacom? do you know how to configure left and right limits?
[22:13] <karlo> iceroot, any possible, when some program close or open, when some time come, everything, its really good program
[22:13] <rui> hi people
[22:13] <HazLT> compdoc: AMD Athlon XP
[22:14] <iceroot> karlo: for time-based there is cron/at
[22:14] <Ramses_> hello rui
[22:14] <iceroot> karlo: for the rest i dont know, sorry
[22:15] <karlo> iceroot, tnx, I guess I will continue to google it xD for days haha
[22:15] <rui> can anyone help me with my portable hard drive there is the message that i get Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[22:15] <rui> Failed to mount '/dev/sdg1': Input/output error
[22:15] <rui> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[22:15] <rui> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[22:15] <rui> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[22:15] <FloodBot1> rui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <linuxuz3r> locodir-user__ there is a wacom driver and system control for it
[22:15] <rui> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[22:16] <altangell> ActionParsnip
[22:16] <rui> I m sorry
[22:16] <altangell> ActionParsnip
[22:16] <altangell> hey
[22:17] <dr_willis> rui,  time to get windows to scan/fix that disk if its a NTFS
[22:17] <altangell> hy
[22:17] <ikonia> rui: the device your trying to use, is it fakeraid ?
[22:17] <rui> dr_willis: ok
[22:18] <HazLT> compdoc: so do you know something about upgrading from 1100 to 3200 MHz?
[22:18] <dr_willis> rui,  unless of course its a dead/dieing disk.. hope you got backups...   its Not a raid right?
[22:18] <karlo> iceroot, I found it o.O ..I cant believe haha, I was looking for days xD ..name is Sentinella
[22:18] <iceroot> karlo: great
[22:18] <rui> okonia:waht si fake raid
[22:18] <jettlarue> hey, anyone here know anything about javasound im getting errors on the java tests
[22:18] <ikonia> rui: a software raid solution normally driven from onboard motherboard connectors
[22:18] <compdoc> HazLT, mine shows "size=2800MHz" and "capacity=2800MHz"
[22:19] <iceroot> HazLT: maybe that means currently the cou is running with 1100mhz because there is not much to do and if there is much to do the cpu will go to 3200mhz
[22:19] <dr_willis> very unlike a exteranal usb hard drive is a 'fake raid'  :)
[22:19] <compdoc> it might be that yours is in power saving mode.
[22:19] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ChristopherNG yea so the new ISO and unetbootin didnt work
[22:19] <compdoc> AMD Athlon XP isnt a model number
[22:19] <rui> ikonia:its the hard drive its connected with a  usb port
[22:19] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ChristopherNG i got the same screen and nothing happened
[22:19] <HazLT> compdoc: so how can i see my cpu model number?
[22:20] <ikonia> rui: currently yes, but was it part of a raid group ?
[22:20] <altangell> jettlarue: sun-java6-jre/jdk
[22:20] <iceroot> HazLT: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:20] <ram0042> noneabove, sorry to hear that. I had frustrations myself with that black screen in the past and I learned that somehow they work on specific machines
[22:20] <jettlarue> altagell: yes yes no im working on a game only i cannot get sound to work
[22:20] <rui> ikonia:is without bee part of a raid group
[22:20] <ram0042> noneabove1182^
[22:20] <ikonia> rui: sorry pardon ?
[22:21] <altangell> oly for a game ? or in generraly
[22:21] <HazLT> compdoc: well, cpu_family=6, model=10
[22:21] <rui> ikonia:is without been part of a raid group
[22:21] <jettlarue> in general- i tried to run the javasounddemo and it throws a midiunavailableexception
[22:21] <noneabove1182> ram0042 so is there nothing i can do ?
[22:21] <noneabove1182> ram0042 or do i need a CD or what?
[22:22] <jettlarue> from the java site- it works in virtualbox
[22:22] <konsumer> Debian is great, but ubuntu makes life easier :D
[22:22] <konsumer> Thanks for all the support fellas
[22:22] <rui> ikonia:is conected to the computar and that it withou been distribuited the data trhought another drives
[22:22] <panic_> quit
[22:23] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yeah there is something you can do. what i would do is get a hold of the "dd" comand.  maybe in a windows power shell. and copy it sector by sector
[22:23] <gotsanity> I am trying to remaster my ubuntu installation using remastersys and the iso that is created keeps hanging at the boot menu. anyone have any clues as to what would cause this?
[22:23] <locodir-user__> Does anyone knows how to configure a wacom tablet under ubuntu?
[22:23] <altangell> i m out here back to sleep
[22:23] <ikonia> rui: has that drive ever been part of a raid group ?
[22:23] <altangell> i'll be back tomorrow
[22:23] <altangell> sall all
[22:23] <CLN84> Greetings, is there a way i can uninstall UNITY, i really do not like it
[22:23] <rui> is without beenig part of a raid group, without
[22:23] <edbian> CLN84: log out, click your name, change the session, log in
[22:24] <rui> ikonia :is without being part of araid group
[22:24] <compdoc> CLN84, log in using Classic
[22:24] <CLN84> edbian, is there a way to "uninstall"
[22:24] <noneabove1182> ram0042 gah, sounds complicated >< hum, just want ubuntu partitioned :/
[22:24] <edbian> CLN84: I think so but I don't know what it is
[22:24] <ram0042> noneabove1182, ok run the wubi installation
[22:24] <edbian> CLN84: a guess: sudo apt-get purge unity
[22:24] <ikonia> rui: has it EVER been part of a raid group
[22:24] <noneabove1182> ram0042 i did it on my desktop no prob but this is giving me so much trouble...
[22:24] <CLN84> edbian, okay thank you. i will try that.
[22:24] <edbian> CLN84: sure
[22:24] <gotsanity> CLN84, purging unity will most likely break your system
[22:25] <noneabove1182> ram0042 you mean the one off of ubuntus site? like the wubi.exe?
[22:25] <noneabove1182> ram0042 or is it the one on my usb?
[22:25] <seanmc98> if i have ubuntu 11.04 installed and make a partion to install windows will grub automatically show up?
[22:25] <gmed> ram0042, could I try installing from my old ubuntu that is already installed?
[22:25] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yea like i said, different pc's different results. yeah any wubi.exe
[22:25] <rui> ikonia:is without being part of  a raid group its used with the usb port and work for himselfe
[22:25] <noneabove1182> and then what should i do?
[22:26] <ram0042> gmed, what do you mean by that?
[22:26] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ^
[22:26] <rui> ikonia: im trying to give you  a positive answer
[22:26] <gmed> ram0042, it wont work from Live CD
[22:26] <ram0042> noneabove1182, run the wubi from the desktop, not the usb
[22:26] <gmed> ram0042, I have ubuntu 8.04 installed
[22:27] <noneabove1182> ram0042 okay and then do what?
[22:27] <ikonia> rui: I understand, I suggest running / using the "chkdsk" problem from within windows
[22:27] <ram0042> gmed, so your trying to upgrade?
[22:27] <ram0042> noneabove1182, have the iso next to the wubi.exe
[22:27] <rui> ikonia : i dont have windows
[22:27] <gmed> ram0042, I was trying to make a fresh install
[22:27] <gmed> ram0042, but...
[22:27] <noneabove1182> ram0042 im running the wubi now and installing
[22:28] <ikonia> rui: take it to someone who does
[22:28] <ram0042> noneabove1182, alright
[22:28] <ksx4system> is it possible to make bars transparent when running 11.04 (no Unity, co-called Ubuntu Classic mode)?
[22:28] <rui> ikonia : ok thank you
[22:28] <noneabove1182> ram0042 its done, should i reboot right now?
[22:28] <ksx4system> i mean taskbar and upper bar
[22:28] <ram0042> gmed, I really don't know what to tell you here with the whole setup thing freezing
[22:28] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes
[22:29] <noneabove1182> ram0042 alright ill be back in a bit then
[22:29] <ram0042> noneabove1182, alright
[22:29] <gmed> ram0042, I read that it could be something with my HDD partitions
[22:29] <gmed> ram0042, GParted does not open from live CD
[22:29] <seanmc98> if i have ubuntu 11.04 installed and make a partion to install windows will grub automatically show up?
[22:30] <ram0042> gmed, try to get a diffrent tool. there is a dedicated one called mhdd
[22:30] <gmed> ram0042, I have windows XP(NTFS) and Ubuntu 8.04 (ext3) in this machine
[22:31] <ram0042> gmed, oh. ok thats different then. i was assuming ubuntu only...
[22:31] <gmed> ram0042, But what will I do? I belive my partitions are ok...
[22:31] <ram0042> gmed, do you remember the sda numbers and such?>
[22:31] <gmed> ram0042, no, I have many partitions and dual boot (winxp and ubuntu)
[22:32] <NewWorld> !test
[22:32] <gmed> ram0042, yes, i´m on ubuntu 8.04 now
[22:33] <gmed> ram0042, gparted open here, normal
[22:33] <ram0042> gmed, well you're doing everything right; only thing is finding the cause of that freezing installation
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> hardy deskto piseol, you do know?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> *desktop is EOL
[22:34] <seanmc98> ActionParsnip, if i have ubuntu 11.04 installed and make a partion to install windows will grub automatically show up?
[22:34] <gmed> ram0042, well
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: no you will need to reinstate it as windows willblindly overwrite the MBR
[22:35] <gmed> ram0042, maybe i´ll try upgrading
[22:35] <cbilljones> Hi, my laptop has only one speaker, any way force mono sound in 11.04?
[22:35] <gmed> ram0042,  is it possible?
[22:35] <ram0042> gmed, yes
[22:35] <seanmc98> ActionParsnip, will that erase ubuntu?
[22:35] <ram0042> gmed "sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade"
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: no
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: could drag the balance for the sound to one side
[22:36] <seanmc98> ok well i will download this ISO and come back for help with that
[22:36] <ram0042> gmed, but wait
[22:36] <cbilljones> actionparsnip will that put both channels to one side, or just give me left sound?
[22:36] <ram0042> gmed, how did you install ubutnu?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: afaik, put both through one side, effectively mono sound
[22:37] <cbilljones> actionparsnip ok i will try it out thanks
[22:39] <gmed> ram0042,  its an old instalation
[22:39] <gmed> ram0042,  from CD probably, dont remember
[22:39] <gmed> ram0042,  very old, not 8.04, its 6.10
[22:39] <ram0042> gmed, did you specify any partitions for stuff like /home
[22:40] <gmed> ram0042,  yes
[22:40] <gmed> ram0042,  / and /home
[22:40] <guilhermebl> Is it possible to install ubuntu from a iso image using grub to load that image?
[22:40] <gmed> ram0042,  why?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> guilhermebl: grub2 can boot ISO files
[22:41] <lloowen> Hi all. I have an Ubuntu that does not shut down. "Shutdown -h now" does not work. I have to press the off button to swith off my PC. I would like to do a re-install but I have my PC connected to my TV as I have no monitor. When I try to re-install the screen goes blanck as I assume the install is looking for a monitor instead. Is there a way I can do a re-install using my TV instead of a monitor?
[22:41] <dr_willis> guilhermebl,  using grub2 yes.. grub1 no...
[22:41] <guilhermebl> oh, that is nice, i will try that
[22:41] <ram0042> gmed, good. I think you know what you're doing then. I asked because if the upgrade fails during the reboot, it might corrupt something and there goes your /home if not seperate
[22:42] <dr_willis> guilhermebl,  i set up a /boot/ partition once with grub2 and some iso files.. let me boot/install to the rest of the HD from the first partition. :)
[22:43] <gmed> ram0042,  oh, no problem, no data to backup
[22:43] <gmed> ram0042,  the version is 6.10, do I need to go up to 7.04 first and so on?
[22:43] <sooniar> hello! some mutt users around?
[22:43] <ram0042> gmed, alright. the upgrade has to go through all of them yes
[22:44] <sooniar> when i use mutt's own smtp support, i get 'SASL authentication failed' all the time - even if i specify the smtp_authenticator manually!
[22:44] <mopeyennui> Common problem: I am stuck in command line mode, how do I get back to GNOME? (I'm running 10.04)
[22:44] <edbian> mopeyennui: ctrl + alt + F7   ?
[22:44] <ArchLinuxman> exit
[22:44] <mopeyennui> (I pressed Ctrl+F5.)
[22:45] <kora-chan> hey i'm accidently changed my default file manager on 11.04 from nautilus to thunar via a dialog that popped up. in system settings -> preferred applications, there is no tab for file manager. any1 knows where to change this back?
[22:45] <edbian> mopeyennui: what I said
[22:45] <gmed> ram0042,  ok
[22:46] <mopeyennui> Thanks. Wait.. I can alttab between several text interfaces and the gui! (Wow.)
[22:46] <ram0042> gmed, took me two days from a 5.04 to 10.10
[22:47] <mopeyennui> It worked, thanks.
[22:47] <mopeyennui> (Oh, in that text only mode, if there some way to make the text larger?
[22:47] <gmed> ram0042,  LOL
[22:48] <mopeyennui> Somebody?
[22:48] <daan4711> Hi, I have got a short question: I am running Tasksel... What does Basic Ubuntu server contain?
[22:48] <gmed> ram0042,  I forgot how to configure wpa_suplicant
[22:48] <mopeyennui> I would love to use vim more often.
[22:48] <edbian> mopeyennui: sure
[22:49] <ram0042> gmed, archwiki has good info on that one. i never configured it myself
[22:49] <mopeyennui> How edbian?
[22:49] <edbian> mopeyennui: I told you about ctrl + alt + F7
[22:49] <gmed> ram0042,  thanks!
[22:49] <mopeyennui> Err no. Now my question is, how do I make the text bigger in text only mode.
[22:49] <daan4711> Hi, I have got a short question: I am running Tasksel... What does Basic Ubuntu server contain?
[22:51] <ArchLinuxman> mopeyennui yes can use the handy cap feature to change weather you use the magnifying glass I dont know if  shift + ctrl + + will increase screensize in terminal...
[22:51] <qin> mopeyennui: setupcon -f (man setupcon)
[22:51] <lloowen> Hi all. I have an Ubuntu that does not shut down. "Shutdown -h now" does not work. I have to press the off button to swith off my PC. I would like to do a re-install but I have my PC connected to my TV as I have no monitor. When I try to re-install the screen goes blanck as I assume the install is looking for a monitor instead. Is there a way I can do a re-install using my TV instead of a monitor?
[22:52] <mopeyennui> daan, you just asked that question already. Stop repeating yourself.
[22:53] <ArchLinuxman> daan google this question...
[22:54] <daan4711> ArchLinuxman: I
[22:54] <daan4711> ArchLinuxman: I have already googled this, but I am not able to find a real answer. Some say this package contains nothing.
[22:56] <campee> is there a method in ubuntu to mount a windows share as a non-root user?
[22:57] <ArchLinuxman> daan, your not going to make me google this are you....  You understand in Google you can ask the same question in 100 different ways yes...
[22:57] <bluezone> using chmod, how do i apply permissions for all the contents of a directory?
[22:57] <edbian> bluezone: chmod XYZ /path/to/directory     (are you asking about subfolders too?)
[22:58] <bluezone> yes everything
[22:58] <bastidrazor> bluezone: chmod -R
[22:58] <bluezone> ah
[22:59] <daan4711> ArchLinuxman: I know how to google, but there is simply no information. I think this is because I am running a headless install, which isn't used oft.
[22:59] <bluezone> beautifulll, no more stupidty 777 everything :)
[23:00] <gigenieks> guys
[23:00] <edbian> bluezone: def not 777 everything!
[23:00] <edbian> gigenieks: yes
[23:01] <gigenieks> how can I add youtube to Ubuntu forums?
[23:01] <gigenieks> not link
[23:01] <gigenieks> but insert video
[23:01] <bluezone> edbian, no just the android SDK
[23:02] <edbian> bluezone: :)
[23:02] <edbian> gigenieks: I don't think you can.
[23:02] <OerHeks> gigenieks, adding a youtube video slow down the forum
[23:02] <DebianIsTheBest> gigenieks: Click share on the video, then embed, and paste the HTML code into the forum post
[23:03] <DebianIsTheBest> gigenieks: Not sure if iframe tags will be accepted by the forum though
[23:03] <campee> is there a method in ubuntu to mount a windows share as a non-root user?  (FUSE)
[23:03] <Quatitos> Is anyone aware of a bug affecting some laptops where after suspending/hibernating power use is significantly increased?
[23:03] <tookie> hi, im having trouble installing metasploit. its a .run file can anyone help me out?
[23:03] <campee> tookie: did you chmod +x it and run it?
[23:03] <Quatitos> tookie, just chmod it so it's exectuable (chmod +x filename) then run it.
[23:03] <Quatitos> to run it type ./file_name
[23:03] <ArchLinuxman> daan, I just go here give me a run down on your install and problem.. Let me put on my thinking camp..
[23:03] <DebianIsTheBest> tookie: You might have trouble using metasploit if you can't work out the install process...
[23:04] <tookie> i ran the chmod and still nothing happens when i click it
[23:04] <tookie> ive never used ubuntu before
[23:04] <tookie> :P
[23:04] <Guest7972> Is there a way for me to hide to join messages in xchat that comes w/ Ubuntu 11.04?
[23:04] <tookie> i can use it okay on windows
[23:04] <campee> tookie: have you run linux before?
[23:04] <campee> tookie: i don't think this is ubuntu specific
[23:04] <tookie> not really ive fooled around with it
[23:04] <DebianIsTheBest> Guest7972: Yes, in the options somewhere
[23:04] <tookie> thats what i mean
[23:04] <ArchLinuxman> daan, I have used 18+ linux distro's and there has not been a question I can't answer with a bit of time
[23:04] <campee> tookie: open a command prompt and run the program by cd'ing to the directory that it's in and type ./file.run
[23:05] <tookie> okay
[23:05] <Guest7972> DebianIsTheBest, I checked the preferences and didnt see anything...I'll double check it again
[23:05] <bluezone> ArchLinuxman, have you ever used PClinuxOs ?
[23:05] <DebianIsTheBest> Guest7972: http://xchat.org/faq/#q211
[23:06] <Guest7972> DebianIsTheBest, TY!
[23:06] <tookie> it says no such file or directory although im in downloads and ik im typing it right
[23:06] <ArchLinuxman> bluezone,  Yeah not the best distro??? has problems
[23:06] <bluezone> ArchLinuxman, its a piece of garbage
[23:06] <tookie> could renaming it cause a problem?
[23:06] <campee> tookie: type
[23:07] <campee> tookie: type 'ls'. do you see it?
[23:07] <Quatitos> Is anyone aware of a bug affecting some laptops where after suspending/hibernating power use is significantly increased?
[23:07] <tookie> Campee: yes
[23:07] <bluezone> tookie, ubuntu is CasE-SenSitiVe
[23:07] <robin0800> Guest7972, its in the right click menu on the tabs
[23:07] <ArchLinuxman> bluezone, what distro doesn't have problems to work through??????
[23:07] <campee> tookie: what is the name of it?
[23:07] <ChristopherNG> lol
[23:07] <tookie> campee: metasploit.run
[23:07] <campee> tookie: ./metasploit.run
[23:07] <campee> what happens
[23:08] <tookie> no such file
[23:08] <campee> type 'ls -l metasploit.run'. what is the result?
[23:08] <bluezone> ArchLinuxman, its not really "problems" that bother me it's more the lack of drivers (which is a problem, but w.e )
[23:08] <DebianIsTheBest> Have you set the executable bit for the file?
[23:09] <tookie> -rwxr-xr-x 1 keith keith 177060683 2011-08-09 18:41 metasploit.run
[23:09] <bluezone> ArchLinuxman, they didnt have my External hard drive drivers rofl, and the support dude told me i didn't know how to use linux
[23:09] <ArchLinuxman> bluezone, that is a support issue... yes that is why I left PcLinux2007 alone...  That doesn't mean its a bad distro... Just means it doesn't support your hardware
[23:09] <campee> tookie: are you sure you're typing ./metasploit.run and not just "metasploit.run"?
[23:10] <tookie> campee: yep..
[23:10] <bluezone> ArchLinuxman, well... ubuntu is better :P
[23:10] <gigenieks> DebianIsTheBest: didnt work, but I posted anyway
[23:11] <campee> tookie: try opening the folder in an "explorer" window in gnome, right-clicking it, and going to "open"
[23:11] <ArchLinuxman> bluezone, that is what Einstein was getting at all things are relative.... This is symantics to keep going on about a distro's down side
[23:11] <bazhang> !ot | ArchLinuxman bluezone
[23:11] <tookie> campee: nothing happens
[23:12] <ArchLinuxman> Thanks robot
[23:12] <bazhang> ArchLinuxman, keep it on topic, please
[23:12] <gigenieks> I can't login in Xubuntu.
[23:12] <gigenieks> anymore
[23:12] <gigenieks> after reboot
[23:12] <gigenieks> Can someone help?
[23:13] <tookie> campee: ill try reloging think it might be running in the background or something brb
[23:13] <DebianIsTheBest> gigenieks: What sort of error message do you get?
[23:13] <Quatitos> Is anyone aware of a bug affecting some laptops where after suspending/hibernating power use is significantly increased?
[23:13] <gigenieks> also posted (with youtube link) --->
[23:13] <gigenieks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11135849#post11135849
[23:14] <gigenieks> no error
[23:14] <slide> So the Unity bar wont come up neither will the "Menu" what can I do?
[23:14] <gigenieks> see my thread posted
[23:14] <gigenieks> there is video also!!
[23:14] <ArchLinuxman> bazhang I wasn't trying to get off topic....  I just finished showering may have posted 4 posts not on ubuntu.... thats it and got roped into a discussion about distro's ...
[23:14] <tookie> campee: no change
[23:16] <tookie> it says its an executable but it just wolnt run. Could i be missing a dependency?
[23:19] <ircmonkey> evening :)
[23:21] <ArchLinuxman> anyone know a great book, website or magizine that will give terminal commands for troubleshoot hardware
[23:21] <ircmonkey> Does anyone know a good start for the python programming language?
[23:21] <h00k> ArchLinuxman: that's a super-broad topic, which are you trying to troublshoot?
[23:22] <h00k> *troubleshoot
[23:22] <tookie> anyone help me with this error message? sudo: ./framework-4.0.0-linux.run: command not found
[23:22] <[THC]AcidRain> hax are upon us
[23:22] <ircmonkey> tookie use sh?
[23:22] <tookie> sh?
[23:22] <[THC]AcidRain> does anyone know why ubuntu 11.04 is using hax on my icon themes to make it so i cant change it?
[23:23] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: did you ask nicely?
[23:23] <ircmonkey> well are you in the dir of the file?
[23:23] <pdhartman> ArchLinuxman:  I have a book that might help you. can't remember the name of it at the moment. give me a mo
[23:23] <tookie> yeah
[23:23] <ircmonkey> use ls -l to see ?
[23:23] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i begged the login screen to put its RATs away and let me have my life back. and i got no response
[23:23] <jrib> ircmonkey: #python
[23:23] <ogramses> whats an irc app that allows identd?
[23:23] <tookie> it shows it
[23:24] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: how are  you trying to change your icon theme?
[23:24] <[THC]AcidRain> through the theme manager
[23:24] <[THC]AcidRain> right click desktop. change background, themes, icons
[23:24] <tookie> okay now i did the command and i get no error but it doesnt open up...????????
[23:24] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: and what happens when you try to make the change?
[23:24] <NoNaMeNo> hi, I have a question regarding to cron, I'm using ubuntu and I can't find the crontab command, how do I get it?
[23:24] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: where are you looking for it?
[23:25] <NoNaMeNo> which crontab
[23:25] <ircmonkey> you probably put a space wrong use first letters and then try tab to auto-complete
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, in the "custom" box it says that the crystal theme is selected, but nothing happens
[23:25] <NoNaMeNo> I don't have it in my system
[23:25] <ircmonkey> for correct filename?
[23:25] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: how did you install ubuntu?
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> even after logout/in changes are the same, but no visual change
[23:25] <Quatitos> Is anyone aware of a bug affecting some laptops where after suspending/hibernating power use is significantly increased?
[23:25] <NoNaMeNo> it's a server I'm paying
[23:25] <tookie> ircmonkey: i got the command to work now i think its right but nothing happens
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i tried with multiple themes too
[23:25] <tookie> ircmonkey: no error but nothing starts up
[23:25] <ArchLinuxman> hook Not the idea I spent about 2 years here.... I had a massed a notes on troubleshooting linux, ubuntu, arch linux etc... to help with every day commands of troubleshoot hardware, software etc... I had the machine go down.... I was personally making a small book of great tips on commands...
[23:25] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: what does « ls -l /usr/bin/crontab » return?
[23:25] <ArchLinuxman> such as sudo dmidecode --type 17 | more  (gives me the speed of the ram your using)
[23:25] <ircmonkey> hmm, tookie try redownloading the file ;-)
[23:26] <ircmonkey> might be corrupt or a bad installer
[23:26] <tookie> ircmonkey: i just did same problem
[23:26] <NoNaMeNo> jrib: ls: cannot access /usr/bin/crontab: No such file or directory
[23:26] <pdhartman> ArchLinuxman: LPI Linux Certification in a Nutshell
[23:26] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: complain to the people you are paying...
[23:26] <NoNaMeNo> oh, ok... thanks
[23:27] <tookie> it doesnt work no matter how many times i try it, think maybe the file itself is messed up?
[23:27] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: ask *them* how they installed ubuntu.  Since you probably want to know what else is non-standard
[23:27] <NoNaMeNo> jrib: in what package would I get it ?
[23:27] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, any ideas? cause its hard to search google for an issue with such widely used words and interests with little problems from them
[23:27] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: does gconf-editor reflect the icon theme change?
[23:27] <jrib> NoNaMeNo: cron.  But I strongly suggest you ask your vendor what exactly you are running
[23:28] <NoNaMeNo> ok
[23:28] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, in gconf-editor, what is the location of the icons?
[23:28] <ircmonkey> tookie see pm? :P
[23:29] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: I don't know offhand.  I'll look in a minute if you can't find it (there's a search function)
[23:29] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, k thx
[23:29] <ArchLinuxman> pdhartman Sounds promising are the commands useful and do they use a lot of pipes????
[23:30] <ArchLinuxman> well I guess I will have to read
[23:32] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, all the values say schema, and it is unchangable
[23:33] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: it's probably /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme
[23:34] <grenadecx-Ascend> anyone here experienced with triple monitor setup across 2 graphic cards in ubuntu and might wanna help me?
[23:34] <[THC]AcidRain> bah!
[23:34] <[THC]AcidRain> it says ubuntu-mono=dark
[23:34] <[THC]AcidRain> see obvious hax
[23:34] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ok, now check your permissions on ~/.gconf/
[23:34] <jrib> (recursively)
[23:34] <[THC]AcidRain> i ran as sudo
[23:35] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: that's probably the reason you are having issues
[23:35] <[THC]AcidRain> and i dont have a root gconf
[23:36] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what do you mean?
[23:36] <[THC]AcidRain> the file you are directing me to does not exits
[23:37] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: that's pretty strange.  Are you sure?
[23:37] <[THC]AcidRain> actually no im not. i can cd to it, but i cant browse to it with nautilus
[23:37] <[THC]AcidRain> :/
[23:37] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ls -ld ~/.gconf/     returns?
[23:38] <[THC]AcidRain> drwx------ 4 acidrain acidrain 4096 2011-08-09 18:22 /home/acidrain/.gconf/
[23:38] <irrumator_> how to quickly see ports on computer? i am wishing to find out which port couchdb is running on my computer?
[23:38] <[THC]AcidRain> sry. i wasnt in home >_>
[23:38] <edbian> irrumator_: nmap
[23:38] <irrumator_> edbian: yeah, i know of that tool, but not sure how to scan myself...
[23:38] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ls -l ~/.gconf/     returns (in a pastebin)?
[23:39] <edbian> irrumator_: namp <ip address of machine>     That's all there is to it
[23:39] <edbian> irrumator_: Might wanna give it -A to get more detail :)
[23:39] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, http://pastebin.com/Eh4XH7kL
[23:40] <irrumator_> ok, thanks will try edbian
[23:40] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ls -l ~/.gconf/     there is no 'd' in this command
[23:40] <pea_brain> hi all, i am trying to do some basic customizations to 11.04 .i need to remove the words ( ubuntu ) and replace it with nothing where the dots appear while booting. can anyone please guide me ?
[23:40] <[THC]AcidRain> sry
[23:40] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/1BQzYjrc
[23:41] <jrib> !usplash | pea_brain
[23:41] <madeentje> hi, i have a question, i purchased an SSD like 2 weeks ago, and installed ubuntu on it (my first experience with ubuntu as native, tried it out a little bit in a VM), so i googled for hours and hours and looked up everything to improve my SSD-usage, and that all works fine, except for the SSD alignment....i read on several places the newer versions of ubuntu align your HDD/SSD correctly automatically (even if you decide to choose your pa
[23:41] <madeentje> rtitions manually, which i did), but my partition starts on sector 63, i checked, how does this come? 1 person on the forums told me it's likely a bug, i have ubuntu 11.04 64bit on a rather new and powerful PC, with a very new "Crucial M4 128GB", the thing is, my ubuntu boots i only 13-15 secs (checked with bootchart), so i think this is caused by the wrong alignment, because everywhere i see ppl who boot ubuntu like 3-6 secs with an SSD
[23:41] <madeentje> , even though i use 3Gbps isntead of 6Gbps for its full potential, i should get higher speeds at booting, in the benchmark the seqentuel speeds are correct though, up to 285MBps+, but can't check 4K or other speeds (can't find a benchmark who can do this for me), so could anyone tell me what's up with the wrong alignment that ubuntu does, and if it really can cause this slower booting?
[23:41] <FloodBot1> madeentje: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: why are these permissions 777?
[23:42] <hdon-> hi all :) apt-get is telling me that "it is not going to be installed" (packages include lsb-{core,graphics,cxx,desktop.printing}) does that mean i should not install them?
[23:42] <arleslie> hey guys, I'm trying to configure a switch over ethernet>seral (using an adapter)... how do I figure out which /dev/ is the ethernet card?
[23:42] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i honestly dont know
[23:42] <hdon-> i am trying to install http://linux.avasys.jp/drivers/lsb/epson-inkjet/stable/debian/dists/lsb3.2/main/binary-amd64/epson-inkjet-printer-nx420_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
[23:42] <[THC]AcidRain> i just installed 2 days ago...
[23:42] <[THC]AcidRain> what should permissions be?
[23:42] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: pastebin output of the following run as your user: find ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf ~/.config ! -user $USER
[23:43] <silverarrow> Do you know about grub error?
[23:43] <arleslie> hdon-, that just means their not going to be includeed in the update or w/e you can install them if you wish, but they are either not requried or not supported or they are restricted repositories
[23:43] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, this command has no output...
[23:43] <jrib> silverarrow: you should be more specific
[23:43] <aleuh> mwoais
[23:44] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ls -l ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml
[23:44] <madeentje> hey guys, can someone plz help? it's about my new SSD & the partition alignment: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662254/
[23:45] <hdon-> arleslie, thanks. i am going to update before installing..
[23:46] <ChrisRJersey> hey, has anyone had any problems installing ubuntu on dells?
[23:47] <jrib> ChrisRJersey: just ask your question
[23:47] <ChrisRJersey> i've tried 6 images, 10.04 32 and 64, 10.10 32 and 64, 11.04 32 and 64
[23:47] <ChrisRJersey> the only ones that even reach the installer or live cd are the 11.04 images
[23:47] <ChrisRJersey> after i install 11.04
[23:47] <acidrain_> jrib, that command turned my comp off instantly
[23:47] <acidrain_> l9l
[23:47] <acidrain_> lol*
[23:47] <jrib> acidrain_: umm, that's not normal...
[23:47] <ChrisRJersey> it gets to the login but then it is stuck there
[23:48] <acidrain_> yeah thats what im thinking
[23:48] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: want to see if it's reproducable?
[23:48] <madeentje> hey guys, can someone plz help? it's about my new SSD & the partition alignment: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662254/
[23:48] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, well where was you going with this?
[23:48] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, yes, give command again
[23:48] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ls -l ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml
[23:49] <[THC]AcidRain> then again i think electricity may of went out. but my alarm clock is not reset :/
[23:49] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/A02Y6djJ
[23:50] <h00k> [THC]AcidRain: you also may have some hardware issues going on.
[23:50] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i dont think that command had anything to do with my comp going out
[23:50] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah, possibly hardware
[23:50] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ok
[23:50] <[THC]AcidRain> but ive kept my comp so damn clean over the years
[23:50] <[THC]AcidRain> this is very sad
[23:50] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: use gconf-editor to change your icon theme and see what happens
[23:50] <tookie> i keep hitting joinchannel but its not showing up here any ideas?
[23:51] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i was going to do that, but how do i know the name of the icon them i want to use
[23:51] <[THC]AcidRain> theme*
[23:51] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, when i run gconf-editor as normal, it says its set to "crystal"
[23:52] <madeentje> hello guys, i have some problems with partition alignment on my SSD, can anyone help me?
[23:52] <OerHeks> madeentje, since nobody knows, maybe this url is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd
[23:52] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: mine is set to "gnome", try that
[23:52] <ChrisRJersey> you're partitioning an ssd?
[23:52] <ChrisRJersey> brave man
[23:52] <ircmonkey> haha
[23:52] <[THC]AcidRain> but when i run as root, it is set to what i believe is the current theme
[23:52] <[THC]AcidRain> ok its changed. login/out?
[23:52] <arleslie> hey guys, I'm trying to configure a switch over ethernet>seral (using an adapter)... how do I figure out which /dev/ is the ethernet card?
[23:53] <ircmonkey> are you guys really talking about themes? :P *sighs*
[23:53] <ircmonkey> arleslie tried ifconfig?
[23:53] <arleslie> ircmonkey, doesn't say
[23:53] <ircmonkey> then you will see all adapters
[23:53] <ircmonkey> pick the one u need
[23:53] <ircmonkey> prob not eth0 :P
[23:54] <arleslie> ircmonkey, no such /dev/eth0
[23:54] <IanWizard-Cloud> Australia channel?
[23:54] <ircmonkey> arleslie if you type in terminal ifconfig you will see all network-related devices
[23:54] <jrib> [TK]D-Fender: when you run what as root?  What are you running as root?  How are you running it?
[23:55] <ircmonkey> and eth0 will be your default connection for LAN ;)
[23:55] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, any other suggestions?
[23:55] <tookie> guys i cant join another chanel
[23:55] <arleslie> ircmonkey, yes I understand, but I need to figure out what eth0 is in /dev/ not the adapter name
[23:55] <tookie> anyone know why?
[23:56] <madeentje> thx oerheks, but i already knew all of that, the thing is, ubuntu seems to be bugged with its automatic partitioning, because it partitions it at sector 63, which isn't ok for SSD's according to google
[23:56] <IanWizard-Cloud> Any english channel in the southern hemisphere?
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, when i set it as gnome. it "changed" but no visual change
[23:56] <ircmonkey> ls -l?
[23:56] <ircmonkey> to see al :p
[23:56] <madeentje> but everywhere i read ubuntu can handle partioning SSD's since a while
[23:56] <robin0800> tookie, /j #channel
[23:56] <madeentje> so someone suggested it might be a bug
[23:56] <arleslie> IanWizard-Cloud, this is the entire english channel.. ubuntu support is in languages not location
[23:56] <pea_brain> ubottu: but it seems that usplash has been removed in 11.04 :(
[23:56] <h00k> IanWizard-Cloud: this is the support channel for English speaking Ubuntu users. Are you looking for a Local Community?
[23:56] <IanWizard-Cloud> h00k: no, actually just someone from Australia.
[23:57] <h00k> pea_brain: usplash has been replaced with plymouth
[23:57] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: and if you close gconf-editor and open it again, is it still changed?
[23:57] <h00k> !alis | IanWizard-Cloud
[23:57] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, yes sir
[23:57] <arleslie> ircmonkey, like I said I'm looking for the /dev/ device NOT THE ADAPTER name
[23:57] <IanWizard-Cloud> h00k: not entirely ubuntu related.
[23:57] <tookie> REGISTER pspds22 bballguard22@gmail.com
[23:57] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: where are you looking to check for changes?
[23:57] <tookie> >.<
[23:57] <[THC]AcidRain> gconf-editor
[23:57] <h00k> IanWizard-Cloud: this isn't the place, then
[23:57] <[THC]AcidRain> for visual change?
[23:57] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: where are you looking to check for visual changes?
[23:57] <h00k> tookie: I suggest changing your password.
[23:58] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, im looking at my desktop at the "untitled folder"
[23:58] <IanWizard-Cloud> h00k: I'm just gonna take a gander and say that you're opp arent you?
[23:58] <Noz3001> yeah, tookie, that's logged in 1000+ peoples chat logs.
[23:59] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: see if you can reproduce behavior with a fresh new user
[23:59] <[THC]AcidRain> :/