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| Electroale27 | hola | 03:06 |
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| holstein | o/ | 03:06 |
| hakimsheriff | Hello Everyone | 06:39 |
| Draggin | Good morning! I've finally gotten around to installing US11.04 (and was perturbed when I couldn't find the volume icon...) but what bugs me more at this stage, from a purely aesthetical point of view, is that there is no splash screen :( | 11:00 |
| Draggin | Any ideas? | 11:01 |
| hakimsheriff | Helo EVeryone | 19:30 |
| holstein | o/ | 19:30 |
| hakimsheriff | I need help with Ubuntu Studio | 19:30 |
| hakimsheriff | I just installed it yesterday | 19:30 |
| holstein | i say, take it slow | 19:31 |
| holstein | try and get used to JACK, and go from there | 19:31 |
| hakimsheriff | But on the Ubuntu Software center, all the writing is in white, and sometimes if i bring my mouse over the writing it turns balck | 19:31 |
| holstein | depending on where you are coming from, these are not the kind of tools you learn in a few days | 19:31 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: i dont use the software center | 19:32 |
| holstein | depending on what version you are using, i would consider it a 'testing' version | 19:32 |
| hakimsheriff | I am using 11.04 | 19:32 |
| holstein | i would fire up synaptic for GUI pacakge management | 19:32 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: also, make sure you are up to date with system upgrades | 19:32 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, also upgraded everything yesterday | 19:33 |
| holstein | cool :) | 19:33 |
| holstein | so, just dont use the software center, and you should be fine | 19:33 |
| holstein | probably just a bug from the upgrade | 19:33 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, but it didn't really come with any pre-installed software | 19:33 |
| holstein | you should look for a bug report if you'd like to help | 19:33 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: right, use synaptic for GUI package management | 19:34 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: in linux, you have many options for many tasks | 19:34 |
| holstein | the software center is the newest GUI tool from ubuntu for package management | 19:34 |
| hakimsheriff | umm.. Synaptics is not opening, im getting an error | 19:35 |
| hakimsheriff | let me get you what the error is, | 19:35 |
| holstein | rigth, about the other package manager running | 19:35 |
| hakimsheriff | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 19:35 |
| hakimsheriff | E: _cache->open() failed, please report. | 19:35 |
| holstein | you cant have the software center, or the upgrade manager running | 19:35 |
| hakimsheriff | ah okay | 19:35 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: OH... you've broken something | 19:35 |
| holstein | did you shut the machine off mid upgrade? | 19:36 |
| holstein | or lose power? | 19:36 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, I don't think so | 19:36 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: well, thats an error that could be breaking the software center | 19:36 |
| holstein | or others | 19:36 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, so what should i do now, re-install from scratch? | 19:36 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ? | 19:36 |
| hakimsheriff | not yet let me do it know | 19:37 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you can if you want, but you'll likely break it again | 19:37 |
| hakimsheriff | im mean now | 19:37 |
| holstein | you should try and figure out what you have done | 19:37 |
| holstein | and how to fix it | 19:37 |
| holstein | then, you wont do it again :) | 19:37 |
| holstein | or if you do, you'll understand how to fix it | 19:37 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: close everything | 19:37 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 19:37 |
| holstein | run sudo dpkg --configure -a | 19:38 |
| holstein | if no errors, i say run | 19:38 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 19:38 |
| holstein | then | 19:38 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get upgrade | 19:38 |
| holstein | you should see no errors ideally | 19:38 |
| hakimsheriff | do i close x-chat too | 19:38 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: nah... | 19:38 |
| holstein | that should be fine | 19:38 |
| hakimsheriff | it says: ldconfig deferred processing now taking place | 19:40 |
| holstein | ok... and? | 19:40 |
| holstein | its still working? | 19:40 |
| hakimsheriff | okay now its done | 19:40 |
| holstein | with all 3 of those? | 19:41 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 19:41 |
| holstein | and sudo apt-get upgrade? | 19:41 |
| hakimsheriff | i am doing those now | 19:41 |
| holstein | we want to see no errors | 19:41 |
| hakimsheriff | done | 19:42 |
| hakimsheriff | all worked | 19:42 |
| holstein | ok.. | 19:42 |
| holstein | if i were you, i would either restart, or logout and back in | 19:42 |
| holstein | probably restart.. | 19:42 |
| holstein | who knows what was half installed | 19:42 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you still dont need to run software center | 19:43 |
| hakimsheriff | okay, and should everything work then? | 19:43 |
| holstein | go to synaptic and search ubuntustudio | 19:43 |
| holstein | you'll see the software metapackages you want | 19:43 |
| holstein | those'll take a while to install though | 19:43 |
| holstein | and you might not want them all | 19:43 |
| hakimsheriff | ahh okay, becoause it didn't come with any pre-installed software | 19:43 |
| hakimsheriff | just sound recorder and all the other Ubuntu basics | 19:44 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you have to select them at install | 19:44 |
| holstein | while installing you are asked | 19:44 |
| holstein | its not totally clear though | 19:44 |
| holstein | and its not like the normal ubuntu installer | 19:44 |
| holstein | you were given the opportunity during install though | 19:45 |
| hakimsheriff | Yes I was and i went on one of them, i think it was audio editing, and pressed enter | 19:45 |
| holstein | right, its not clear | 19:46 |
| holstein | you hit the spacebar to select | 19:46 |
| holstein | *then* enter | 19:46 |
| holstein | i assure you its not a bug | 19:46 |
| holstein | or an error | 19:46 |
| holstein | its just tricky the first time | 19:46 |
| hakimsheriff | ahh okay, that makes sense, | 19:47 |
| holstein | its just like the alternate installer for regular vanilla ubuntu | 19:47 |
| holstein | not totally mainstream though | 19:47 |
| holstein | non-GUI | 19:47 |
| holstein | we are talking about going to a live installer | 19:47 |
| holstein | we'll see... | 19:47 |
| hakimsheriff | I have been using ubuntu for about a year now and helping wherever I can, I just randomly stumbled upon ubuntu studio, | 19:48 |
| holstein | cool | 19:48 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: welcom | 19:48 |
| holstein | e | 19:48 |
| holstein | we can use help if you are insterested | 19:48 |
| holstein | /join #ubuntustudio-devel and camp out for a bit :) | 19:49 |
| hakimsheriff | sure, I already joined the lauchpad team, | 19:49 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: cool... thanks :) | 19:49 |
| hakimsheriff | The only problem I have with ubuntu or ubuntu studio, is that my dj gear does not have drivers for linux | 19:49 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: yeah.. i used to have some non-linux gear | 19:50 |
| holstein | sux | 19:50 |
| holstein | ive phased it all out though, and now everything works well | 19:50 |
| hakimsheriff | and i have to have Virtual DJ, which also doesn't work on linux | 19:50 |
| holstein | we have some nice DJ software :) | 19:50 |
| holstein | well, Virtual DJ is not written for linux | 19:50 |
| hakimsheriff | Yes but since I dj n Virtual DJ Radio, I am forces to use Virtual DJ | 19:50 |
| holstein | eh.. ive use IDJC to icecast | 19:51 |
| hakimsheriff | I tries running it in wine, but its too slow | 19:51 |
| holstein | worked great | 19:51 |
| holstein | those guys can make a linux version | 19:51 |
| holstein | i say, vote with your wallet, and let em know what you want | 19:51 |
| holstein | sometimes, you just have to dual boot | 19:52 |
| hakimsheriff | The number of petitions people have started to get VDJ on linux, nothing works, | 19:52 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, but i find myslef using windows more, | 19:52 |
| hakimsheriff | and my computer messed up completely so i had to do a clean install, but i lost my Windows CD so I decided to use ubuntu studio | 19:53 |
| holstein | cool | 19:53 |
| hakimsheriff | Okay, i will restart now, See ya later! | 19:54 |
| holstein | probably windows XP anyways | 19:54 |
| holstein | i woudnt worry about it too much :) | 19:54 |
| hakimsheriff | no it was windows 7, | 19:54 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: good luck and welcome to the group | 19:54 |
| hakimsheriff | Thank You, :) | 19:54 |
| hakimsheriff | Goodbye | 19:54 |
| hakimsheriff | Hello again EVeryone | 21:01 |
| holstein | o/ | 21:01 |
| hakimsheriff | I restarted, everything seems to work okay, but still the same problem with the software center | 21:02 |
| holstein | yeah... personally, ive used the software center | 21:02 |
| holstein | and i dont need it | 21:02 |
| holstein | i mean, its borken obviously | 21:02 |
| hakimsheriff | I use it a lot, | 21:02 |
| holstein | if you want, open it from the terminal | 21:02 |
| holstein | look for error output | 21:02 |
| holstein | you can try using synaptic to step it back a version | 21:03 |
| holstein | see if its the actual version of software center | 21:03 |
| holstein | like i said before, its a 'testing' version really | 21:03 |
| hakimsheriff | and I can't seem to get Flash to work | 21:03 |
| holstein | they implemented it early, and i think 12.04 is the goal for it to really be a store | 21:03 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, ahh okay | 21:03 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you should look for a bug report though | 21:04 |
| holstein | thats the only way to get it done | 21:04 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: whats the issue with flash? | 21:04 |
| hakimsheriff | I installed it but, its not working on youtube videos | 21:05 |
| holstein | is it working at all? | 21:05 |
| holstein | did you install flash? | 21:05 |
| holstein | or gnash? | 21:05 |
| hakimsheriff | flash | 21:05 |
| holstein | is it all youtube? | 21:05 |
| hakimsheriff | yes | 21:05 |
| holstein | any browser? | 21:06 |
| holstein | all browsers? | 21:06 |
| holstein | for future reference... | 21:06 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio = ubuntu | 21:06 |
| holstein | for me, when im installing for my studio machine | 21:06 |
| holstein | i dont care if flash works | 21:06 |
| holstein | if you want more of a normal daily desktop box | 21:06 |
| holstein | you might want to check out | 21:06 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 21:07 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 21:07 |
| hakimsheriff | I have used Ubuntu and have a CD with it | 21:07 |
| holstein | install the normal ubuntu, and just add a few meta packages | 21:07 |
| holstein | like ubuntustudio-audio for example | 21:07 |
| hakimsheriff | ahh okay | 21:07 |
| holstein | OR, just the software you want | 21:07 |
| hakimsheriff | I will do that then | 21:07 |
| holstein | JACK, ardour, idjc whatever | 21:07 |
| hakimsheriff | I thought ubuntu-studio would also work for everyday | 21:07 |
| holstein | theres no advantage for you to run ubuntustudio | 21:07 |
| holstein | it *will* work fine for everyday | 21:08 |
| holstein | and you can sort out these issues | 21:08 |
| holstein | but, out of the box, normal ubuntu is more... well... normal | 21:08 |
| holstein | you need not install ubuntustudio, and waste time making it more normal | 21:08 |
| hakimsheriff | okay then i will install ubuntu again, | 21:08 |
| holstein | when you can just install what you want from ubuntustudio into ubuntu | 21:08 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: this may or may not be your issue though | 21:09 |
| holstein | an upgrade could have broken the software center | 21:09 |
| holstein | and flash could just be not working in that one browser | 21:09 |
| holstein | i would.. | 21:09 |
| hakimsheriff | i am using chromium | 21:09 |
| hakimsheriff | as a brower | 21:09 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install midori | 21:09 |
| holstein | and test in firefox as well | 21:09 |
| holstein | could be your graphics card driver | 21:10 |
| hakimsheriff | I will have to install firefox again, | 21:10 |
| hakimsheriff | yes i thought that was the problem | 21:10 |
| holstein | you can look for extra drivers or whatever | 21:10 |
| holstein | i think thats in the menu... additional drivers? | 21:10 |
| holstein | this will be the same in normal ubuntu | 21:10 |
| hakimsheriff | It just says no prprietary drivers are installed on this computer and thats all | 21:11 |
| hakimsheriff | doesnt let me do anything | 21:12 |
| holstein | OK... still, could be the driver | 21:12 |
| holstein | i would get some live CDs | 21:12 |
| hakimsheriff | It works on live-cds | 21:12 |
| hakimsheriff | and on regular Ubuntu | 21:12 |
| holstein | the latest ubuntu, and the last LTS (10.04), knoppix.. | 21:12 |
| hakimsheriff | they all work | 21:13 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: flash doesnt work on the ubuntu live CD's | 21:13 |
| holstein | doesnt come on there | 21:13 |
| holstein | you install it, and it works? | 21:13 |
| hakimsheriff | Yes, But the SOftware center works | 21:13 |
| hakimsheriff | I thought thats what you were yalking about | 21:13 |
| holstein | i would *not* worry about the software center | 21:13 |
| holstein | thats not a big deal | 21:13 |
| holstein | its not like you cant install software | 21:14 |
| holstein | and i bet thats just a glitch from an upgrade | 21:14 |
| holstein | you should try fully removing it, and reinstalling it | 21:14 |
| hakimsheriff | Just did a reinistall, but the same issue is still there | 21:14 |
| holstein | the other thing you can try is making another user real quick | 21:15 |
| holstein | log in as that user | 21:15 |
| holstein | see if the software center works | 21:15 |
| hakimsheriff | ahh okay, i wil try that now and come back | 21:15 |
| holstein | theres some directory in your ~/ | 21:15 |
| holstein | this can tell you if removing it would help | 21:16 |
| hakimsheriff | pkay so i have the same problem with the new user | 21:19 |
| holstein | ok.. so its pretty safe to assume its the software center itself then | 21:20 |
| hakimsheriff | okay | 21:20 |
| holstein | you should launch it from the terminal | 21:20 |
| hakimsheriff | How do you do that? | 21:20 |
| holstein | open the terminal and type | 21:21 |
| holstein | software-center | 21:21 |
| hakimsheriff | same problem still | 21:21 |
| holstein | of course | 21:21 |
| hakimsheriff | well, thats fine | 21:21 |
| holstein | this is not a magical back door | 21:21 |
| holstein | look in the terminal | 21:21 |
| holstein | and see if you see any error messages | 21:21 |
| holstein | anyways... at this stage, the software center is really just a package manager | 21:22 |
| holstein | the next few versions are where it'll really be a store | 21:22 |
| hakimsheriff | a few errors | 21:22 |
| hakimsheriff | one: WARNING - No styling hints for UbuntuStudio were found... using Human hints. | 21:23 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: i bet it you change themes, it'll work | 21:23 |
| hakimsheriff | two: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed | 21:23 |
| holstein | yup | 21:23 |
| holstein | thats what i think | 21:23 |
| holstein | go to 'apperance' and pick one of the normal buntu themes | 21:23 |
| holstein | see if all is good | 21:23 |
| holstein | then, you can file a bug | 21:23 |
| hakimsheriff | It works! | 21:24 |
| hakimsheriff | Ohh my first time filing a bug! | 21:25 |
| scott-work | viola | 21:25 |
| hakimsheriff | COuld you give me the link to where I do that | 21:25 |
| scott-work | hakimsheriff: what release of ubuntu studio are you using? | 21:25 |
| hakimsheriff | 11.04 | 21:26 |
| scott-work | aye, natty | 21:26 |
| scott-work | hakimsheriff: software-center should be in natty | 21:26 |
| holstein | oh, its in theree | 21:26 |
| holstein | it just doest work | 21:26 |
| holstein | opens up blank | 21:26 |
| scott-work | oh, okay that's a good start then | 21:26 |
| scott-work | oh | 21:26 |
| holstein | 17:30 < hakimsheriff> one: WARNING - No styling hints for UbuntuStudio were found... using Human hints. | 21:27 |
| scott-work | hmmm, strange, it works on my home machine i believe | 21:27 |
| holstein | 17:30 < hakimsheriff> two: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed | 21:27 |
| holstein | ive never ever opened it under the ubuntustudio theme | 21:27 |
| holstein | TBH, i opened it when it came out, and closed it right back down ;) | 21:27 |
| scott-work | hakimsheriff: did you install ubuntu studio from a dvd and did the full installation? | 21:27 |
| scott-work | i'm leaving work in about fifteen minutes and thirty minutes after that i can see what my machine does at home | 21:28 |
| hakimsheriff | I downloaded an ISO and burnt it to a DVD | 21:28 |
| holstein | yeah, i can look too, but im on 10.04 on that machine | 21:28 |
| holstein | scott-work: its the ubuntustudio iso | 21:28 |
| scott-work | okay, that is good | 21:28 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff used the ubuntustudio iso | 21:28 |
| holstein | i dont have an 11.04 install anymore.. just an 11.10 install im not keeping up with | 21:29 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: do you have a launchpad account? | 21:29 |
| hakimsheriff | Yes | 21:29 |
| holstein | check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 21:30 |
| holstein | feel free to ask if you get hung up | 21:30 |
| scott-work | i'm leaving in just a minute, it takes me thirty minutes to get home and i'll check it on mine as well | 21:38 |
| hakimsheriff | okay i submitted the bug | 21:54 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: thanks | 21:54 |
| holstein | unfortunately, it'll probably just go away since we are moving to XFCE, but its important to have them | 21:55 |
| hakimsheriff | I liked the regualr Ubuntu Interface better, should I just install ubuntu and use Ubuntu Studio packages? | 21:55 |
| holstein | it will help us keep in mind *everything* needs to be tested | 21:55 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you dont have to | 21:55 |
| holstein | you can run | 21:55 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 21:56 |
| holstein | it'll probably want to remove ubuntustudio-desktop | 21:56 |
| holstein | and thats fine if thats what you want | 21:56 |
| hakimsheriff | o I forgot about that!! | 21:56 |
| holstein | that's much quicker than reinstalling prolly | 21:56 |
| holstein | either one will work though :) | 21:56 |
| hakimsheriff | But could they both be there and you choose on the login screen? | 21:56 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: in theory | 21:57 |
| holstein | im not sure though... i havent tried it | 21:57 |
| holstein | and usually the *-desktop metas like to remove the others | 21:57 |
| holstein | you can have ubuntu-destkop and KDE installed for example | 21:57 |
| holstein | but i think ubuntu-desktop wants to remove kubuntu-desktop | 21:57 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: try it and see | 21:57 |
| holstein | worst case, you lose ubuntustudio-desktop | 21:58 |
| hakimsheriff | I've had Ubuntu and Kubuntu together once | 21:58 |
| holstein | ive had KDE and gnome together, i forget the details though... | 21:58 |
| holstein | with linux/ubuntu, there is always a way... | 21:58 |
| hakimsheriff | be right back | 21:59 |
| hakimsheriff_ | Well it works | 22:02 |
| hakimsheriff_ | I didn't ask me to uninstall ubuntustudio-desktop | 22:02 |
| holstein | :) | 22:03 |
| hakimsheriff_ | ANd what about the flash issue | 22:03 |
| === hakimsheriff_ is now known as hakimsheriff | ||
| holstein | well, im arguing it might be your graphics driver | 22:03 |
| holstein | in which case, you'd need to do some tests, and determine that | 22:04 |
| holstein | maybe force the vesa driver with a custom xorg.conf | 22:04 |
| hakimsheriff | well are you going to be here for some time? | 22:04 |
| hakimsheriff | because i need to go now | 22:04 |
| holstein | i would just google 'ubuntu whatever graphics hardware' | 22:04 |
| holstein | and see | 22:04 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: im in here all the time | 22:04 |
| holstein | i wont be around later though... | 22:04 |
| hakimsheriff | but i don't know what hardware i have? | 22:04 |
| holstein | i'll be out for about 6 hours, then sleep | 22:05 |
| holstein | but, im in here all the time | 22:05 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you can open a terminal and run | 22:05 |
| holstein | lspci | 22:05 |
| holstein | and/or | 22:05 |
| holstein | lspci -v | 22:05 |
| holstein | you'll see a line pertaining to your grahpics hardware | 22:05 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: i would also try the opera driver, if you are not opposed to it | 22:06 |
| holstein | if for nothing else, troubleshooting | 22:06 |
| hakimsheriff_ | sorry my internet just cut | 22:07 |
| holstein | :/ | 22:07 |
| hakimsheriff_ | what were you saying? | 22:07 |
| hakimsheriff_ | I saw lspci and/or...... | 22:07 |
| holstein | http://paste.ubuntu.com/662217/ | 22:07 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff_: lol | 22:08 |
| holstein | i say 'try the opera driver' | 22:08 |
| holstein | i mean, the opera browser ;) | 22:09 |
| hakimsheriff_ | ahh okay | 22:09 |
| hakimsheriff_ | okay so I know my graphics card, WHat do I do now | 22:11 |
| === hakimsheriff_ is now known as hakimsheriff | ||
| hakimsheriff | okay so I know my graphics card, WHat do I do now | 22:13 |
| holstein | well, you can tell me what it is... | 22:13 |
| hakimsheriff | Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller | 22:14 |
| holstein | OK... that should 'just work' | 22:14 |
| ScottL | okay, hakimsheriff , software-center worked for me on my natty install | 22:14 |
| holstein | ScottL: are you up to date? | 22:14 |
| ScottL | you might trying uninstalling it and then reinstalling it | 22:14 |
| holstein | try upgrading and see if you break it | 22:14 |
| hakimsheriff | ScottL, I got it to work, All I needed to do was change the theme | 22:14 |
| holstein | ScottL: are you in the ubuntustudio theme? | 22:14 |
| ScottL | holstein, i have been keeping up with the udpates, but i don't know if a new one is available | 22:15 |
| ScottL | holstein, yes, i am using the ubuntu studio theme | 22:15 |
| ScottL | too weird that changing theme would help it | 22:15 |
| hakimsheriff | It couldn't find any "Styling Hints" for the Software Center | 22:16 |
| hakimsheriff | at least thats what terminal said | 22:16 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html | 22:17 |
| holstein | ScottL: actually, eons ago, i had issues like that with 10.04 | 22:17 |
| holstein | JAMin wouldnt launch | 22:18 |
| holstein | ardour complained | 22:18 |
| holstein | lots of GTK errors | 22:18 |
| holstein | i dropped to a default ubuntu theme, and all was good | 22:18 |
| holstein | i couldnt reproduce it though | 22:18 |
| hakimsheriff | Well its downloading the divers but my internet is slow at the moment so it is going to take some time, | 22:22 |
| holstein | it? | 22:23 |
| holstein | what is? | 22:23 |
| holstein | what drivers? | 22:23 |
| holstein | thats an old link too | 22:23 |
| holstein | its more of a guide really | 22:23 |
| holstein | you'll just have to poke around | 22:24 |
| holstein | first thing i would do is force the vesa driver | 22:24 |
| holstein | that would tell me if its even the driver | 22:24 |
| holstein | otherwise, you can waste a lot of time installing some driver that may or may not work | 22:24 |
| hakimsheriff | What do you mean? | 22:25 |
| hakimsheriff | O gosh my internet keeps on cutting | 22:25 |
| hakimsheriff | So what were you saying? | 22:26 |
| holstein | im saying, you dont know it the driver is the issue | 22:26 |
| hakimsheriff | My internet is really messed up | 22:27 |
| holstein | you could waste time installing a driver from a 2 year old forum post | 22:27 |
| hakimsheriff | so what exactly should I do | 22:27 |
| hakimsheriff | sorry if i am making you repeat | 22:27 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: no worries | 22:28 |
| holstein | i would force the vesa driver | 22:28 |
| hakimsheriff | And how do I do that? | 22:28 |
| holstein | that, in theory, removes your current driver from the equation | 22:28 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: i would create a custom xorg.conf | 22:28 |
| holstein | what i usually do is run a live cd | 22:28 |
| holstein | knoppix | 22:29 |
| holstein | grab the xorg.conf from it, and edit it slightly | 22:29 |
| holstein | making the driver vesa | 22:29 |
| holstein | put that in place in the ubuntu install | 22:29 |
| holstein | see what its like | 22:29 |
| holstein | you'll want to know how to safely edit those files | 22:29 |
| holstein | otherwise... you can just search for a driver, but i dought you will find a better one than what is included in ubuntu | 22:30 |
| hakimsheriff | I have no idea how to edit the lines | 22:30 |
| holstein | OK... go with whats comfortable to you | 22:31 |
| hakimsheriff | I has always worked for me, its just now, | 22:31 |
| holstein | i mean, you're not going to know how to install that driver either | 22:31 |
| holstein | maybe try some live CD's | 22:31 |
| holstein | see if you can learn whats going on | 22:31 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: it has always worked for you in linux? | 22:31 |
| holstein | when? | 22:31 |
| holstein | ubuntu? | 22:31 |
| hakimsheriff | always | 22:31 |
| holstein | 10.04? | 22:31 |
| holstein | thats what im using | 22:31 |
| hakimsheriff | Ubuntu 10.04 | 22:31 |
| hakimsheriff | 10.10 | 22:31 |
| hakimsheriff | 11.04 | 22:32 |
| holstein | i personally consider 10.10 and 11.04 testing versions | 22:32 |
| hakimsheriff | and Kubuntu 10.10 | 22:32 |
| holstein | and this is a great example | 22:32 |
| holstein | 10.04 is the last LTS | 22:32 |
| holstein | thats what im running where it matters | 22:32 |
| holstein | thats an arguable veiw point though.... | 22:32 |
| holstein | also, if it used to work, you should be able to get it working | 22:33 |
| holstein | maybe a backport | 22:33 |
| holstein | id have to spend some time with te hardware | 22:33 |
| holstein | but, if it were me, i would just run 10.04 | 22:33 |
| hakimsheriff | So a clean install? | 22:33 |
| holstein | its up to you | 22:33 |
| holstein | i mean, its just flash | 22:33 |
| holstein | and, you just started messing with it | 22:34 |
| holstein | could be a backport | 22:34 |
| hakimsheriff | O flash is very important for me | 22:34 |
| holstein | i would keep googling around | 22:34 |
| holstein | maybe ask in #ubuntu-beginners | 22:34 |
| holstein | not that you are a beginner | 22:34 |
| holstein | its just a nice community | 22:34 |
| hakimsheriff | is there a place where i could download the default drivers | 22:34 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: thats the issue | 22:34 |
| holstein | ubuntu *should* be including the recent ones | 22:35 |
| hakimsheriff | btw... I am training to be in the Beginner Team | 22:35 |
| holstein | and if it used to work, i would think its something where the functionality is bypassed | 22:35 |
| hakimsheriff | Helping out with the support team | 22:35 |
| holstein | so, i would think it would be more likely a backport module would do the job | 22:35 |
| holstein | it would be challenging for the linux kernel to support all hardware all the time | 22:36 |
| holstein | at some point, hardware is phased out | 22:36 |
| holstein | but, its linux... you can always get it working | 22:36 |
| holstein | especially if it used to work | 22:37 |
| hakimsheriff | well it worked for 11.04 so it should work now | 22:37 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: this is 11.04, right? | 22:37 |
| holstein | this is an 11.10 install? | 22:37 |
| holstein | alpha? | 22:37 |
| hakimsheriff | no this is 11.04 | 22:38 |
| holstein | so... it worked when then? | 22:38 |
| hakimsheriff | When I installed it previously | 22:38 |
| holstein | i though you said it worked in 10.04, and in 10.10? and not now in 11.04? | 22:38 |
| holstein | ok.. so, it used to work in a previous 11.04 install then | 22:39 |
| hakimsheriff | And then my computer messed up so I had to reinstall everything, that is WHy I nstalled Ubuntu STudio | 22:39 |
| holstein | you could try reinstalling flash then | 22:39 |
| holstein | also, try in another user account | 22:39 |
| hakimsheriff | holstein, I tried another user account | 22:39 |
| hakimsheriff | didnt work | 22:39 |
| holstein | so, its flash then | 22:39 |
| holstein | did you reinstall it? | 22:40 |
| hakimsheriff | yes | 22:40 |
| hakimsheriff | let me try again | 22:41 |
| holstein | you seem to have turned the machine off mid upgrade too | 22:41 |
| holstein | thats not good | 22:41 |
| hakimsheriff | I think thats what might have happened | 22:41 |
| hakimsheriff | :S | 22:42 |
| holstein | yup | 22:42 |
| holstein | thats what those errors indicate | 22:42 |
| hakimsheriff | I could always do a clean install | 22:42 |
| holstein | sure | 22:42 |
| holstein | sometimes thats faster | 22:42 |
| hakimsheriff | okay then | 22:43 |
| holstein | but, you dont really learn what happened | 22:43 |
| hakimsheriff | thats what i'm doing | 22:43 |
| holstein | if it were me, i would play around a bit | 22:44 |
| holstein | knowing that im going to reinstall anyways | 22:44 |
| hakimsheriff | I dont have a lot of time on my hands | 22:44 |
| hakimsheriff | I will do a clean Install | 22:44 |
| holstein | then, you should run the LTS ;) | 22:44 |
| hakimsheriff | If everything worked fine on Natty why would I go back? | 22:45 |
| holstein | not that thats your issue | 22:45 |
| holstein | but, if time is a concern.. you can go 2+years without issue | 22:45 |
| holstein | but, do what you want... the software center is better | 22:46 |
| holstein | hakimsheriff: you thought about 11.10? | 22:46 |
| holstein | its pretty far along | 22:46 |
| holstein | you could get a jump on it, and help with bugs :) | 22:46 |
| hakimsheriff | Well I test live cd's ad virtual Machines | 22:46 |
| hakimsheriff | I did that for testing 11.04 | 22:47 |
| hakimsheriff | Its not really time, its more of I dont know what to do if I just played around a bit with it | 22:47 |
| holstein | sure, you dont have to | 22:48 |
| holstein | there are bugs you just cant find live though... | 22:48 |
| holstein | i did it once | 22:48 |
| holstein | there was only once it didnt boot up to the desktop :) | 22:48 |
| holstein | that was 10.04 early alpha | 22:49 |
| hakimsheriff | I jus do that to the testing team, not as much for myself | 22:49 |
| hakimsheriff | I am in the Testing team and QUality Assurance team | 22:49 |
| holstein | interesting | 22:50 |
| hakimsheriff | SO I'll do a clean install now | 22:52 |
| hakimsheriff | See Ya! | 22:52 |
| holstein | naptime... good luck hakimsheriff :) | 22:52 |
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