=== ScottL is now known as L === L is now known as L-Train === L-Train is now known as ScottL === prt is now known as paultag [03:06] hola [03:06] o/ [06:39] Hello Everyone [11:00] Good morning! I've finally gotten around to installing US11.04 (and was perturbed when I couldn't find the volume icon...) but what bugs me more at this stage, from a purely aesthetical point of view, is that there is no splash screen :( [11:01] Any ideas? [19:30] Helo EVeryone [19:30] o/ [19:30] I need help with Ubuntu Studio [19:30] I just installed it yesterday [19:31] i say, take it slow [19:31] try and get used to JACK, and go from there [19:31] But on the Ubuntu Software center, all the writing is in white, and sometimes if i bring my mouse over the writing it turns balck [19:31] depending on where you are coming from, these are not the kind of tools you learn in a few days [19:32] hakimsheriff: i dont use the software center [19:32] depending on what version you are using, i would consider it a 'testing' version [19:32] I am using 11.04 [19:32] i would fire up synaptic for GUI pacakge management [19:32] hakimsheriff: also, make sure you are up to date with system upgrades [19:33] holstein, also upgraded everything yesterday [19:33] cool :) [19:33] so, just dont use the software center, and you should be fine [19:33] probably just a bug from the upgrade [19:33] holstein, but it didn't really come with any pre-installed software [19:33] you should look for a bug report if you'd like to help [19:34] hakimsheriff: right, use synaptic for GUI package management [19:34] hakimsheriff: in linux, you have many options for many tasks [19:34] the software center is the newest GUI tool from ubuntu for package management [19:35] umm.. Synaptics is not opening, im getting an error [19:35] let me get you what the error is, [19:35] rigth, about the other package manager running [19:35] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [19:35] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [19:35] you cant have the software center, or the upgrade manager running [19:35] ah okay [19:35] hakimsheriff: OH... you've broken something [19:36] did you shut the machine off mid upgrade? [19:36] or lose power? [19:36] holstein, I don't think so [19:36] hakimsheriff: well, thats an error that could be breaking the software center [19:36] or others [19:36] holstein, so what should i do now, re-install from scratch? [19:36] hakimsheriff: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ? [19:37] not yet let me do it know [19:37] hakimsheriff: you can if you want, but you'll likely break it again [19:37] im mean now [19:37] you should try and figure out what you have done [19:37] and how to fix it [19:37] then, you wont do it again :) [19:37] or if you do, you'll understand how to fix it [19:37] hakimsheriff: close everything [19:37] open a terminal [19:38] run sudo dpkg --configure -a [19:38] if no errors, i say run [19:38] sudo apt-get update [19:38] then [19:38] sudo apt-get upgrade [19:38] you should see no errors ideally [19:38] do i close x-chat too [19:38] hakimsheriff: nah... [19:38] that should be fine [19:40] it says: ldconfig deferred processing now taking place [19:40] ok... and? [19:40] its still working? [19:40] okay now its done [19:41] with all 3 of those? [19:41] sudo apt-get update [19:41] and sudo apt-get upgrade? [19:41] i am doing those now [19:41] we want to see no errors [19:42] done [19:42] all worked [19:42] ok.. [19:42] if i were you, i would either restart, or logout and back in [19:42] probably restart.. [19:42] who knows what was half installed [19:43] hakimsheriff: you still dont need to run software center [19:43] okay, and should everything work then? [19:43] go to synaptic and search ubuntustudio [19:43] you'll see the software metapackages you want [19:43] those'll take a while to install though [19:43] and you might not want them all [19:43] ahh okay, becoause it didn't come with any pre-installed software [19:44] just sound recorder and all the other Ubuntu basics [19:44] hakimsheriff: you have to select them at install [19:44] while installing you are asked [19:44] its not totally clear though [19:44] and its not like the normal ubuntu installer [19:45] you were given the opportunity during install though [19:45] Yes I was and i went on one of them, i think it was audio editing, and pressed enter [19:46] right, its not clear [19:46] you hit the spacebar to select [19:46] *then* enter [19:46] i assure you its not a bug [19:46] or an error [19:46] its just tricky the first time [19:47] ahh okay, that makes sense, [19:47] its just like the alternate installer for regular vanilla ubuntu [19:47] not totally mainstream though [19:47] non-GUI [19:47] we are talking about going to a live installer [19:47] we'll see... [19:48] I have been using ubuntu for about a year now and helping wherever I can, I just randomly stumbled upon ubuntu studio, [19:48] cool [19:48] hakimsheriff: welcom [19:48] e [19:48] we can use help if you are insterested [19:49] /join #ubuntustudio-devel and camp out for a bit :) [19:49] sure, I already joined the lauchpad team, [19:49] hakimsheriff: cool... thanks :) [19:49] The only problem I have with ubuntu or ubuntu studio, is that my dj gear does not have drivers for linux [19:50] hakimsheriff: yeah.. i used to have some non-linux gear [19:50] sux [19:50] ive phased it all out though, and now everything works well [19:50] and i have to have Virtual DJ, which also doesn't work on linux [19:50] we have some nice DJ software :) [19:50] well, Virtual DJ is not written for linux [19:50] Yes but since I dj n Virtual DJ Radio, I am forces to use Virtual DJ [19:51] eh.. ive use IDJC to icecast [19:51] I tries running it in wine, but its too slow [19:51] worked great [19:51] those guys can make a linux version [19:51] i say, vote with your wallet, and let em know what you want [19:52] sometimes, you just have to dual boot [19:52] The number of petitions people have started to get VDJ on linux, nothing works, [19:52] holstein, but i find myslef using windows more, [19:53] and my computer messed up completely so i had to do a clean install, but i lost my Windows CD so I decided to use ubuntu studio [19:53] cool [19:54] Okay, i will restart now, See ya later! [19:54] probably windows XP anyways [19:54] i woudnt worry about it too much :) [19:54] no it was windows 7, [19:54] hakimsheriff: good luck and welcome to the group [19:54] Thank You, :) [19:54] Goodbye [21:01] Hello again EVeryone [21:01] o/ [21:02] I restarted, everything seems to work okay, but still the same problem with the software center [21:02] yeah... personally, ive used the software center [21:02] and i dont need it [21:02] i mean, its borken obviously [21:02] I use it a lot, [21:02] if you want, open it from the terminal [21:02] look for error output [21:03] you can try using synaptic to step it back a version [21:03] see if its the actual version of software center [21:03] like i said before, its a 'testing' version really [21:03] and I can't seem to get Flash to work [21:03] they implemented it early, and i think 12.04 is the goal for it to really be a store [21:03] holstein, ahh okay [21:04] hakimsheriff: you should look for a bug report though [21:04] thats the only way to get it done [21:04] hakimsheriff: whats the issue with flash? [21:05] I installed it but, its not working on youtube videos [21:05] is it working at all? [21:05] did you install flash? [21:05] or gnash? [21:05] flash [21:05] is it all youtube? [21:05] yes [21:06] any browser? [21:06] all browsers? [21:06] for future reference... [21:06] ubuntustudio = ubuntu [21:06] for me, when im installing for my studio machine [21:06] i dont care if flash works [21:06] if you want more of a normal daily desktop box [21:06] you might want to check out [21:07] !vanilla [21:07] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [21:07] I have used Ubuntu and have a CD with it [21:07] install the normal ubuntu, and just add a few meta packages [21:07] like ubuntustudio-audio for example [21:07] ahh okay [21:07] OR, just the software you want [21:07] I will do that then [21:07] JACK, ardour, idjc whatever [21:07] I thought ubuntu-studio would also work for everyday [21:07] theres no advantage for you to run ubuntustudio [21:08] it *will* work fine for everyday [21:08] and you can sort out these issues [21:08] but, out of the box, normal ubuntu is more... well... normal [21:08] you need not install ubuntustudio, and waste time making it more normal [21:08] okay then i will install ubuntu again, [21:08] when you can just install what you want from ubuntustudio into ubuntu [21:09] hakimsheriff: this may or may not be your issue though [21:09] an upgrade could have broken the software center [21:09] and flash could just be not working in that one browser [21:09] i would.. [21:09] i am using chromium [21:09] as a brower [21:09] sudo apt-get install midori [21:09] and test in firefox as well [21:10] could be your graphics card driver [21:10] I will have to install firefox again, [21:10] yes i thought that was the problem [21:10] you can look for extra drivers or whatever [21:10] i think thats in the menu... additional drivers? [21:10] this will be the same in normal ubuntu [21:11] It just says no prprietary drivers are installed on this computer and thats all [21:12] doesnt let me do anything [21:12] OK... still, could be the driver [21:12] i would get some live CDs [21:12] It works on live-cds [21:12] and on regular Ubuntu [21:12] the latest ubuntu, and the last LTS (10.04), knoppix.. [21:13] they all work [21:13] hakimsheriff: flash doesnt work on the ubuntu live CD's [21:13] doesnt come on there [21:13] you install it, and it works? [21:13] Yes, But the SOftware center works [21:13] I thought thats what you were yalking about [21:13] i would *not* worry about the software center [21:13] thats not a big deal [21:14] its not like you cant install software [21:14] and i bet thats just a glitch from an upgrade [21:14] you should try fully removing it, and reinstalling it [21:14] Just did a reinistall, but the same issue is still there [21:15] the other thing you can try is making another user real quick [21:15] log in as that user [21:15] see if the software center works [21:15] ahh okay, i wil try that now and come back [21:15] theres some directory in your ~/ [21:16] this can tell you if removing it would help [21:19] pkay so i have the same problem with the new user [21:20] ok.. so its pretty safe to assume its the software center itself then [21:20] okay [21:20] you should launch it from the terminal [21:20] How do you do that? [21:21] open the terminal and type [21:21] software-center [21:21] same problem still [21:21] of course [21:21] well, thats fine [21:21] this is not a magical back door [21:21] look in the terminal [21:21] and see if you see any error messages [21:22] anyways... at this stage, the software center is really just a package manager [21:22] the next few versions are where it'll really be a store [21:22] a few errors [21:23] one: WARNING - No styling hints for UbuntuStudio were found... using Human hints. [21:23] hakimsheriff: i bet it you change themes, it'll work [21:23] two: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [21:23] yup [21:23] thats what i think [21:23] go to 'apperance' and pick one of the normal buntu themes [21:23] see if all is good [21:23] then, you can file a bug [21:24] It works! [21:25] Ohh my first time filing a bug! [21:25] viola [21:25] COuld you give me the link to where I do that [21:25] hakimsheriff: what release of ubuntu studio are you using? [21:26] 11.04 [21:26] aye, natty [21:26] hakimsheriff: software-center should be in natty [21:26] oh, its in theree [21:26] it just doest work [21:26] opens up blank [21:26] oh, okay that's a good start then [21:26] oh [21:27] 17:30 < hakimsheriff> one: WARNING - No styling hints for UbuntuStudio were found... using Human hints. [21:27] hmmm, strange, it works on my home machine i believe [21:27] 17:30 < hakimsheriff> two: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [21:27] ive never ever opened it under the ubuntustudio theme [21:27] TBH, i opened it when it came out, and closed it right back down ;) [21:27] hakimsheriff: did you install ubuntu studio from a dvd and did the full installation? [21:28] i'm leaving work in about fifteen minutes and thirty minutes after that i can see what my machine does at home [21:28] I downloaded an ISO and burnt it to a DVD [21:28] yeah, i can look too, but im on 10.04 on that machine [21:28] scott-work: its the ubuntustudio iso [21:28] okay, that is good [21:28] hakimsheriff used the ubuntustudio iso [21:29] i dont have an 11.04 install anymore.. just an 11.10 install im not keeping up with [21:29] hakimsheriff: do you have a launchpad account? [21:29] Yes [21:30] check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [21:30] feel free to ask if you get hung up [21:38] i'm leaving in just a minute, it takes me thirty minutes to get home and i'll check it on mine as well [21:54] okay i submitted the bug [21:54] hakimsheriff: thanks [21:55] unfortunately, it'll probably just go away since we are moving to XFCE, but its important to have them [21:55] I liked the regualr Ubuntu Interface better, should I just install ubuntu and use Ubuntu Studio packages? [21:55] it will help us keep in mind *everything* needs to be tested [21:55] hakimsheriff: you dont have to [21:55] you can run [21:56] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [21:56] it'll probably want to remove ubuntustudio-desktop [21:56] and thats fine if thats what you want [21:56] o I forgot about that!! [21:56] that's much quicker than reinstalling prolly [21:56] either one will work though :) [21:56] But could they both be there and you choose on the login screen? [21:57] hakimsheriff: in theory [21:57] im not sure though... i havent tried it [21:57] and usually the *-desktop metas like to remove the others [21:57] you can have ubuntu-destkop and KDE installed for example [21:57] but i think ubuntu-desktop wants to remove kubuntu-desktop [21:57] hakimsheriff: try it and see [21:58] worst case, you lose ubuntustudio-desktop [21:58] I've had Ubuntu and Kubuntu together once [21:58] ive had KDE and gnome together, i forget the details though... [21:58] with linux/ubuntu, there is always a way... [21:59] be right back [22:02] Well it works [22:02] I didn't ask me to uninstall ubuntustudio-desktop [22:03] :) [22:03] ANd what about the flash issue === hakimsheriff_ is now known as hakimsheriff [22:03] well, im arguing it might be your graphics driver [22:04] in which case, you'd need to do some tests, and determine that [22:04] maybe force the vesa driver with a custom xorg.conf [22:04] well are you going to be here for some time? [22:04] because i need to go now [22:04] i would just google 'ubuntu whatever graphics hardware' [22:04] and see [22:04] hakimsheriff: im in here all the time [22:04] i wont be around later though... [22:04] but i don't know what hardware i have? [22:05] i'll be out for about 6 hours, then sleep [22:05] but, im in here all the time [22:05] hakimsheriff: you can open a terminal and run [22:05] lspci [22:05] and/or [22:05] lspci -v [22:05] you'll see a line pertaining to your grahpics hardware [22:06] hakimsheriff: i would also try the opera driver, if you are not opposed to it [22:06] if for nothing else, troubleshooting [22:07] sorry my internet just cut [22:07] :/ [22:07] what were you saying? [22:07] I saw lspci and/or...... [22:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/662217/ [22:08] hakimsheriff_: lol [22:08] i say 'try the opera driver' [22:09] i mean, the opera browser ;) [22:09] ahh okay [22:11] okay so I know my graphics card, WHat do I do now === hakimsheriff_ is now known as hakimsheriff [22:13] okay so I know my graphics card, WHat do I do now [22:13] well, you can tell me what it is... [22:14] Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller [22:14] OK... that should 'just work' [22:14] okay, hakimsheriff , software-center worked for me on my natty install [22:14] ScottL: are you up to date? [22:14] you might trying uninstalling it and then reinstalling it [22:14] try upgrading and see if you break it [22:14] ScottL, I got it to work, All I needed to do was change the theme [22:14] ScottL: are you in the ubuntustudio theme? [22:15] holstein, i have been keeping up with the udpates, but i don't know if a new one is available [22:15] holstein, yes, i am using the ubuntu studio theme [22:15] too weird that changing theme would help it [22:16] It couldn't find any "Styling Hints" for the Software Center [22:16] at least thats what terminal said [22:17] hakimsheriff: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html [22:17] ScottL: actually, eons ago, i had issues like that with 10.04 [22:18] JAMin wouldnt launch [22:18] ardour complained [22:18] lots of GTK errors [22:18] i dropped to a default ubuntu theme, and all was good [22:18] i couldnt reproduce it though [22:22] Well its downloading the divers but my internet is slow at the moment so it is going to take some time, [22:23] it? [22:23] what is? [22:23] what drivers? [22:23] thats an old link too [22:23] its more of a guide really [22:24] you'll just have to poke around [22:24] first thing i would do is force the vesa driver [22:24] that would tell me if its even the driver [22:24] otherwise, you can waste a lot of time installing some driver that may or may not work [22:25] What do you mean? [22:25] O gosh my internet keeps on cutting [22:26] So what were you saying? [22:26] im saying, you dont know it the driver is the issue [22:27] My internet is really messed up [22:27] you could waste time installing a driver from a 2 year old forum post [22:27] so what exactly should I do [22:27] sorry if i am making you repeat [22:28] hakimsheriff: no worries [22:28] i would force the vesa driver [22:28] And how do I do that? [22:28] that, in theory, removes your current driver from the equation [22:28] hakimsheriff: i would create a custom xorg.conf [22:28] what i usually do is run a live cd [22:29] knoppix [22:29] grab the xorg.conf from it, and edit it slightly [22:29] making the driver vesa [22:29] put that in place in the ubuntu install [22:29] see what its like [22:29] you'll want to know how to safely edit those files [22:30] otherwise... you can just search for a driver, but i dought you will find a better one than what is included in ubuntu [22:30] I have no idea how to edit the lines [22:31] OK... go with whats comfortable to you [22:31] I has always worked for me, its just now, [22:31] i mean, you're not going to know how to install that driver either [22:31] maybe try some live CD's [22:31] see if you can learn whats going on [22:31] hakimsheriff: it has always worked for you in linux? [22:31] when? [22:31] ubuntu? [22:31] always [22:31] 10.04? [22:31]