| alvin | I'm sorry for asking a support question here, but it is about the new KDE 4.7, and I fear not many users will have experience with the situation. Also, i'm looking for an answer within 2 hours because then my swap will be filled and the biggest process will be killed. I'm currently fetching a large volume of mails from a Kolab server. If I look in the various folders in Kontact, the mails are switching around between folders. It | 12:07 |
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| alvin | looks like they are being randomly distributed. Some mails are in the folders where I previously put them, but some are in totally different folders. Mails from the 'sent' folder are now in folders where I keep mailinglists. Private mails are mixed with company mails,... The folders are still there, but it's a chaos. The question is now: If this process is interrupted, and I connect to the server later (after a reboot), will the | 12:07 |
| alvin | mails be distributed correctly, or will they actually be moved randomly? I'll be running out of system resources in about 2 or 3 hours. What will happen if akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is killed? | 12:07 |
| yofel | alvin: I have no idea what will happen at the end, please do file a bug upstream about the abnormal memory usage though | 12:32 |
| * yofel was looking for clucene for tamahawk. | 12:32 | |
| yofel | interesting lib naming... | 12:33 |
| yofel | or rather versioning | 12:33 |
| yofel | 6311477 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 20 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so -> libclucene-core.so.1 | 12:33 |
| yofel | 6311476 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 26 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.1 -> libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4 | 12:33 |
| yofel | 6311475 11M -rwxrwxr-x 1 yofel yofel 11M 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4 | 12:33 |
| alvin | yofel: I'm thinking about creating a large swapfile, mount it and see it through. Will file a bug report later. | 12:33 |
| yofel | dslogger: can you subscribe kubuntu-bugs to the prison package? Michal Terry was just commenting on that on the prison MIR | 12:37 |
| yofel | *Michael | 12:37 |
| Quintasan | yofel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2011-August/thread.html | 13:13 |
| Quintasan | Are you tracking that? | 13:13 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: fyi, in case you didn't see them: I sent two merge requests, for ntrack and kde-runtime; my testing seemed to show no ill effects from the ntrack update | 14:00 |
| ScottK | What's the needed change in kde-runtime? | 14:00 |
| cyphermox | nothing, just a rebuild, as you suggested | 14:01 |
| cyphermox | in fact, I' m not sure even that is absolutely required | 14:01 |
| cyphermox | it was just a "status report", so you know how the testing went since I pinged you about it initially | 14:06 |
| yofel | Quintasan: I am subscribed to kubuntu-bugs, yes | 14:06 |
| Quintasan | yofel: You are SUBSCRIBED to that?! | 14:07 |
| yofel | Yes I am, the mails get filtered into their own folder though | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | @_@ | 14:09 |
| * Quintasan goes to driving license course | 14:09 | |
| Quintasan | I couldn't handle that much mail I guess | 14:10 |
| yofel | well, it's not like I read every single one of them... | 14:10 |
| alvin | What mail client can handle that? | 14:15 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: If the soname in libntrack didn't change, it shouldn't need rebuild. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | I've no objections if you update then. | 14:25 |
| Riddell | Desktop Summit blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4466 , good looking people at the bottom, shame nobody took a video of our excellent karaoke | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i think someone took our pics when we were on the stage | 14:38 |
| ScottK | Riddell: With your upstream hat on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278857 could really use a look after you get home. | 14:58 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 278857 in general "Printer applet crashed at login" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 14:58 |
| ScottK | It's starting to pile up dupes. | 14:58 |
| Riddell | ScottK: strangely I can't reproduce it in natty with 4.7 | 15:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: When it happened to me it was on oneiric. | 15:02 |
| * yofel adds some votes | 15:02 | |
| Riddell | yeah, which suggests it's something to do with the gcc or the python version in oneiric | 15:03 |
| Riddell | rather than pykde alone, which would be the obvious candidate | 15:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Maybe you could grab barry and make him fix it. | 15:07 |
| Riddell | or dbus, there's a bunch of dbus in that backtrace | 15:10 |
| Riddell | at least it's not just ubuntu, that report's from fedora | 15:10 |
| Riddell | talking about 4.7, is middle click broken on the message indicator applet for others? | 15:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: rdieter just subscribed to the bug, so it's not just our python/dbus/whatever. | 15:18 |
| * ScottK notes he should read the backscroll first | 15:18 | |
| ScottK | One of the dupes was mine. It happened just after upgrade, but not after. | 15:19 |
| rdieter | ScottK: I noticed the reporter mentioned fedora, yeah. :( | 15:20 |
| Riddell | "but not before"? | 15:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: No. Before I had 4.6. | 15:20 |
| * rdieter heard rumors of odd python quirks after kernel-3.0.0 landed, may be related? | 15:21 | |
| Riddell | pykde's kcm integration has had issues before | 15:22 |
| Riddell | these patches fix up phonon with pulseaudio, means I can use the microphone on my usb headset again | 15:26 |
| Riddell | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/phonon/oneiric/revision/39# | 15:26 |
| Riddell | will upload to oneiric and natty backports PPA once apachelogger approves | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Nice. | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | alvin: btw akonadi_nepomuk_feeder can be switched off | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | it only indexes your mail and hogs up resources if you have millions of emails | 15:38 |
| Riddell | rdieter: do you know if Fedora has nepomuk's strigi integration on by default? | 15:45 |
| yofel | Riddell: after the initial re-indexing was done strigi is pretty silent here | 15:45 |
| Riddell | yofel: next question is will you find yourself actually using it? | 15:47 |
| yofel | come again in a month and I might have an answer... | 15:48 |
| Riddell | dolphin's search interface is quite nice now, but I find myself using KRunner more | 15:52 |
| * yofel is off to dinner, bye | 15:57 | |
| Daskreech | hi Riddell :) | 15:59 |
| rdieter | Riddell: strigi is enabled currently yes, but only on a (small) subset of folders under $HOME | 15:59 |
| Riddell | hi Roger | 16:00 |
| ubuntu4shane | I'm using my laptop lately quite a bit, and when I type my thumb accidentally bumps the touchpad, and I end up with a mess. Is there a way to disable the touchpad while the keyboard is being used? I know in Gnome it was automagic and I didn't have that problem. I found a few links, but all outdated. Any thoughts ideas? | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: >everyoen | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | There is a typo in your blog post :) | 16:00 |
| ubuntu4shane | I went to System Settings -> Input devices, and Touch Pad, and nothing there indicated a way to fix that. | 16:00 |
| Riddell | UDS sponsorship time! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-August/005367.html | 16:00 |
| * Riddell nudges some friendly upsteams like fregl or steveire to come to UDS too | 16:01 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: ta, fixed | 16:02 |
| * Quintasan reads further | 16:02 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: You look totally different than I thought :D | 16:03 |
| Riddell | ubuntu4shane: hmm, I'm sure that's come up before but i don't remember the answer. #kubuntu is the right place for user questions so maybe they know | 16:03 |
| ubuntu4shane | Riddell: that was my first stop, and Daskreech said the same thing. :) Seems everyone has heard of it, but no real answer. :) | 16:04 |
| Daskreech | Riddell: Would it make sense to put a bug up against KDE? | 16:05 |
| Daskreech | or is that a synaptics issue? | 16:05 |
| Quintasan | Daskreech: See the link on #kubuntu, it's upstream issue tracker | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | Should be good place to submit the bug | 16:06 |
| Riddell | it's synaptiks, dunno where they keep bugs | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | https://github.com/lunaryorn/synaptiks/issues | 16:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Oh, not sure who do I thank but some time ago maxb told us that kde imports are fully working :) | 16:08 |
| * Quintasan notes that some time ago was really some time ago but he forgot about that | 16:09 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: imports from upstream or imports into UDD? | 16:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: imports from upstream, more specifically, there was a bug in bzr | 16:09 |
| Riddell | a good candidate for thanks is probably jelmer who I think got the bzr upgrade in launchpad done | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | I see | 16:11 |
| Quintasan | I gotta hangout more in #bzr | 16:11 |
| * Riddell files bug 824040 | 16:24 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824040 | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | bah | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | they gave out ExoPC's | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98 got one | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | :'( | 16:26 |
| Quintasan | WAHT? | 16:27 |
| Riddell | what's one of them? | 16:27 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: We won't get that into archive | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | simon I mean | 16:46 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: why not? | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: IIRC it depends on HTK which is not entirely archive-friendly | 16:46 |
| Riddell | hmm, fooey | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | Let me confirm it | 16:47 |
| Quintasan | Most likely no UDS for me as well | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | Booyah, the source is 30mb | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I've assigned myself bug 824040, I'll try to get it into Debian | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824040 | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: >However, simon never links to the HTK <-- we are saved | 16:51 |
| Riddell | can you get HTK from elsewhere? | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: You can get it for free but you have to register on a certain website which I can't remember right nwo | 16:56 |
| Quintasan | now* | 16:56 |
| Riddell | nasty | 16:57 |
| Riddell | but still worth having simon in the archives | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Is it really that awesome? | 17:03 |
| Riddell | as an accessibility tool yes | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | hmmm | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | !search qaudio.h | 17:04 |
| ubottu | Found: | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | !file qaudio.h | 17:04 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about file qaudio.h | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | !info qaudio.h | 17:04 |
| ubottu | Package qaudio.h does not exist in natty | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | brrr | 17:04 |
| Quintasan | make -j24 ++ | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | Hmmmmmm | 17:06 |
| Quintasan | qtmobility-dev doesnt cut it | 17:06 |
| debfx | that reminds me, someone should update qtmobility to 1.2 before FF | 17:23 |
| Quintasan | Maybe that's why there is no qaudio.h :P | 17:27 |
| Quintasan | jussi: ping | 17:29 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well, I'm kinda stuck | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libqwt6 is needed to get simon working | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | Can you do something with your admin hat? | 17:31 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: like sync it? | 17:31 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: For example :) | 17:31 |
| Quintasan | Then I can start actually bugging upstream their code is pita to compile | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | But that's another story | 17:32 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qwt 6.0.0 is already in | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | HUH? | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Meh, I searched in the wrong window, sorry | 17:34 |
| * Quintasan goes for a beer | 17:37 | |
| Quintasan | Too much stuff today | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yeah | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: bulldog98 got a ExoPC | 17:45 |
| Riddell | which is what? | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | a tablet ... | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | i think dslogger got one too | 17:46 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 17:48 |
| _Groo_ | is apachelogger asleep? | 17:48 |
| mfraz74 | Which version of digikam will be in Oneric 1.9 or 2.0? | 17:52 |
| jussi | Quintasan: whaaa... | 17:53 |
| ScottK | mfraz74: Depends on if we can get 2.0 packaged. It's provided in a not very distro friendly way. | 18:13 |
| debfx | Riddell: can you promote qrencode and prison to main? both have approved MIRs | 18:16 |
| Riddell | debfx: got beastie numbers? | 18:17 |
| debfx | bug #822701 | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 822701 in qrencode (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qrencode" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/822701 | 18:17 |
| debfx | bug #823235 | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 823235 in prison (Ubuntu) "[MIR] prison" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823235 | 18:17 |
| Riddell | debfx: voila | 18:25 |
| debfx | Riddell: thanks! | 18:25 |
| _Groo_ | btw i have made packages for digikam 2.0 final | 18:40 |
| _Groo_ | needed to rebuild for 4.7 anyway | 18:40 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Does it use system libraries and not the embedded kipi-plugins and kdegraphics code copies? | 18:41 |
| mfraz74 | There are some on Philip Johnsson's PPA | 18:41 |
| _Groo_ | mfraz74: i adapted from there | 18:41 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: it uses mostly system libs... the only ones he doesnt are the ones not available in natty | 18:42 |
| _Groo_ | 3 or 4 the most | 18:42 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Are any of them available in Oneiric? | 18:42 |
| ScottK | If you've done that, it might be suitable. | 18:42 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: didnt check, i did it for natty | 18:42 |
| ScottK | It'd be nice to get it in. | 18:42 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i can work on them this weekend | 18:43 |
| ScottK | yofel or Quintasan: Who was working on digikam? | 18:43 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: ill upload them to my ppa, you guys check on it | 18:43 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: and let me know | 18:43 |
| ScottK | Someone ought to work with _Groo_ and get this done. | 18:43 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Thanks. | 18:43 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: if i dont arrive very late at home today, ill try to upload them | 18:43 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: if not just friday | 18:44 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:44 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: let me pastebin the dependecies, so you can take a look | 18:44 |
| _Groo_ | wheres apachelogger? | 18:44 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: I'm busy with $WORK right now, so it might be a bit. | 18:44 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: He's dslogger ATM. | 18:44 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: no problem pastebin doest go away ;) | 18:44 |
| _Groo_ | dslogger: PING PING PING | 18:44 |
| _Groo_ | phonon-gstreamer is kinda broken in git atm | 18:45 |
| _Groo_ | it opens the video window in a new window instead of embedded | 18:45 |
| _Groo_ | and crashes the app on exit | 18:45 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662874/ | 18:46 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662876/ | 18:47 |
| debfx | ScottK: W: dh_python2:90: Python 2.7 should install files in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/. Did you forget "--install-layout=deb"? | 19:51 |
| debfx | (kde-workspace build log) | 19:51 |
| ScottK | Right, dh_python2 takes care of that. | 19:52 |
| * ScottK looks | 19:52 | |
| ScottK | debfx: plasma/generic/scriptengines/python/plasma_importer.py is installed as a public module, so in theory that should be fixed, but dh_python2 will DTRT, so it's not urgent. | 19:55 |
| debfx | ok | 19:57 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: make kubuntu tablet happen you silly person | 20:29 |
| dslogger | Blizzz: where can I get a good curry wurst? | 21:24 |
| dslogger | Blizzz: we need to go eat curry wurst tomorrow | 21:24 |
| dslogger | I am somewhat missing out on that | 21:24 |
| Blizzz | dslogger: you're asking that a vegetarian ;) | 21:24 |
| dslogger | G | 21:25 |
| dslogger | srsly | 21:25 |
| dslogger | you are of no use :P | 21:25 |
| dslogger | anyhow, tomorrow the kubuntus need to go for dinner | 21:25 |
| Blizzz | there is an famous Imbiss at i think Eberswalder Straße | 21:25 |
| Blizzz | Konnopkes or so | 21:25 |
| Blizzz | meh, tomorrow is bad, i am dated | 21:25 |
| bambee | evening | 21:38 |
| dslogger | Quintasan_: pingpingpingping | 21:43 |
| dslogger | Quintasan_: I need maliit | 21:43 |
| dslogger | like | 21:43 |
| dslogger | right now | 21:43 |
| dslogger | NOW | 21:43 |
| * Quintasan_ throws qmake at apa | 21:43 | |
| Quintasan_ | bleh | 21:43 |
| * Quintasan_ throws qmake at dslogger | 21:43 | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | dslogger: oneeyerick or natty? | 21:44 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: oneyerick | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | maliit-framework once, order accepted | 21:45 |
| dslogger | Quintasan++ | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | hrmm | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | err | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: PPA or what? | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: If you want in in archive then you have to wait | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | it* | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: SO? | 21:53 |
| Quintasan | I'm so going to kick him one of these days | 21:55 |
| * Quintasan takes Almight Stick of dslogger Poking | 21:56 | |
| Quintasan | bambee: kick dslogger pls | 21:59 |
| bambee | Quintasan: ? | 21:59 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: ppa is fin for now | 21:59 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: I got an expopc slate | 21:59 |
| Quintasan | Finally | 21:59 |
| dslogger | already got oneeyrick installed | 21:59 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Cool story bro since that crap uses X server for tests | 21:59 |
| * bambee missed a part of the discussion... | 22:00 | |
| dslogger | Quintasan: kick the tests | 22:01 |
| Quintasan | bambee: I wanted someone to kick him because he wasn't responding :P | 22:01 |
| bambee | ah :D | 22:01 |
| * bambee kicks dslogger (even if it's too late) | 22:01 | |
| bambee | :p | 22:01 |
| * dslogger touches bambee inappropriately | 22:02 | |
| Quintasan | dslogger: ppa:quintasan/ppa | 22:05 |
| Quintasan | And wait now | 22:05 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: I just pulled off a quick and dirty package, should work | 22:05 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: do you remember how to start it? | 22:06 |
| dslogger | or the wiki page which describes it | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/maliit-framework_0.80.0-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz here is the debian magic | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | IIRC | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -target slate -bypass-wm-hint | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | replace slate with something else | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | where something else should be under /etc/meegotouch/devices.conf | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | slate is 1024x600 | 22:07 |
| bambee | rhhaa I need coding , I need packing :'( | 22:07 |
| bambee | but I cannot :'( | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | lol | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: >Start in 36 minutes | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | Enjoy ur wait | 22:07 |
| dslogger | fooey | 22:07 |
| * dslogger clones and buils plasma-active meanwhile | 22:08 | |
| Quintasan | It's arm? | 22:08 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: ARRRRM? | 22:08 |
| dslogger | no | 22:08 |
| dslogger | x86 | 22:08 |
| Quintasan | pfff | 22:08 |
| Quintasan | want a deb? | 22:08 |
| dslogger | plz | 22:08 |
| dslogger | kvkbd needs a serious workover | 22:08 |
| dslogger | it is sorta horrible to use really | 22:09 |
| Quintasan | brb playing Harvest Moon | 22:09 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: hf | 22:09 |
| Quintasan | Well, meanwhile at pbuilderz | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | FCK | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | I dispatched wrong build | 22:16 |
| dslogger | oi vey | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | /usr/bin/derp in install FTW | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/lolmaliit.tar.xz | 22:29 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: tell me if it doesnt work | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: But make it quick | 22:36 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: I think there is something missing | 22:41 |
| dslogger | it uses the input method and all but no kbd is showing up | 22:41 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: http://wiki.maliit.org/Installing | 22:43 |
| dslogger | yeah but you need git://gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard.git | 22:43 |
| Quintasan | Those are old | 22:44 |
| Quintasan | http://gitorious.org/maliit/ | 22:44 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: git://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins.git | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | compile this | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | you have framework | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | I'll package it tomorrow | 22:45 |
| dslogger | lol there site is dated it appears | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | new site | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | http://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | Good night then | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: I want a movie with that damn keyboard working | 22:46 |
| dslogger | roger that | 22:46 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: slee tight | 22:46 |
| dslogger | sleep even | 22:46 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: meegokeyboardquickplugin.h:35:37: fatal error: minputmethodquickplugin.h: No such file or directory | 22:57 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: maliit-framework-dev.install:usr/include/maliit/plugins-quick-0.80/minputmethodquickplugin.h | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | :S | 23:07 |
| dslogger | yeah, but for some reason it doesnt find it | 23:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | How stable is Alpha 3? | 23:48 |
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