alvinI'm sorry for asking a support question here, but it is about the new KDE 4.7, and I fear not many users will have experience with the situation. Also, i'm looking for an answer within 2 hours because then my swap will be filled and the biggest process will be killed. I'm currently fetching a large volume of mails from a Kolab server. If I look in the various folders in Kontact, the mails are switching around between folders. It12:07
alvin looks like they are being randomly distributed. Some mails are in the folders where I previously put them, but some are in totally different folders. Mails from the 'sent' folder are now in folders where I keep mailinglists. Private mails are mixed with company mails,... The folders are still there, but it's a chaos. The question is now: If this process is interrupted, and I connect to the server later (after a reboot), will the12:07
alvin mails be distributed correctly, or will they actually be moved randomly? I'll be running out of system resources in about 2 or 3 hours. What will happen if akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is killed?12:07
yofelalvin: I have no idea what will happen at the end, please do file a bug upstream about the abnormal memory usage though12:32
* yofel was looking for clucene for tamahawk.12:32
yofelinteresting lib naming...12:33
yofelor rather versioning12:33
yofel6311477    0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel   20 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so -> libclucene-core.so.112:33
yofel6311476    0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel   26 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.1 -> libclucene-core.so.
yofel6311475  11M -rwxrwxr-x 1 yofel yofel  11M 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.
alvinyofel: I'm thinking about creating a large swapfile, mount it and see it through. Will file a bug report later.12:33
yofeldslogger: can you subscribe kubuntu-bugs to the prison package? Michal Terry was just commenting on that on the prison MIR12:37
Quintasanyofel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2011-August/thread.html13:13
QuintasanAre you tracking that?13:13
cyphermoxScottK: fyi, in case you didn't see them: I sent two merge requests, for ntrack and kde-runtime; my testing seemed to show no ill effects from the ntrack update14:00
ScottKWhat's the needed change in kde-runtime?14:00
cyphermoxnothing, just a rebuild, as you suggested14:01
cyphermoxin fact, I' m not sure even that is absolutely required14:01
cyphermoxit was just a "status report", so you know how the testing went since I pinged you about it initially14:06
yofelQuintasan: I am subscribed to kubuntu-bugs, yes14:06
Quintasanyofel: You are SUBSCRIBED to that?!14:07
yofelYes I am, the mails get filtered into their own folder though14:08
* Quintasan goes to driving license course14:09
QuintasanI couldn't handle that much mail I guess14:10
yofelwell, it's not like I read every single one of them...14:10
alvinWhat mail client can handle that?14:15
ScottKcyphermox: If the soname in libntrack didn't change, it shouldn't need rebuild.14:24
ScottKI've no objections if you update then.14:25
RiddellDesktop Summit blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4466 , good looking people at the bottom, shame nobody took a video of our excellent karaoke14:32
shadeslayerRiddell: i think someone took our pics when we were on the stage14:38
ScottKRiddell: With your upstream hat on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278857 could really use a look after you get home.14:58
ubottuKDE bug 278857 in general "Printer applet crashed at login" [Crash,Unconfirmed]14:58
ScottKIt's starting to pile up dupes.14:58
RiddellScottK: strangely I can't reproduce it in natty with 4.715:02
ScottKRiddell: When it happened to me it was on oneiric.15:02
* yofel adds some votes15:02
Riddellyeah, which suggests it's something to do with the gcc or the python version in oneiric15:03
Riddellrather than pykde alone, which would be the obvious candidate15:03
ScottKRiddell: Maybe you could grab barry and make him fix it.15:07
Riddellor dbus, there's a bunch of dbus in that backtrace15:10
Riddellat least it's not just ubuntu, that report's from fedora15:10
Riddelltalking about 4.7, is middle click broken on the message indicator applet for others?15:13
ScottKRiddell: rdieter just subscribed to the bug, so it's not just our python/dbus/whatever.15:18
* ScottK notes he should read the backscroll first15:18
ScottKOne of the dupes was mine.  It happened just after upgrade, but not after.15:19
rdieterScottK: I noticed the reporter mentioned fedora, yeah. :(15:20
Riddell"but not before"?15:20
ScottKRiddell: No. Before I had 4.6.15:20
* rdieter heard rumors of odd python quirks after kernel-3.0.0 landed, may be related?15:21
Riddellpykde's kcm integration has had issues before15:22
Riddellthese patches fix up phonon with pulseaudio, means I can use the microphone on my usb headset again15:26
Riddellwill upload to oneiric and natty backports PPA once apachelogger approves15:27
shadeslayeralvin: btw akonadi_nepomuk_feeder can be switched off15:38
shadeslayerit only indexes your mail and hogs up resources if you have millions of emails15:38
Riddellrdieter: do you know if Fedora has nepomuk's strigi integration on by default?15:45
yofelRiddell: after the initial re-indexing was done strigi is pretty silent here15:45
Riddellyofel: next question is will you find yourself actually using it?15:47
yofelcome again in a month and I might have an answer...15:48
Riddelldolphin's search interface is quite nice now, but I find myself using KRunner more15:52
* yofel is off to dinner, bye15:57
Daskreechhi Riddell :)15:59
rdieterRiddell: strigi is enabled currently yes, but only on a (small) subset of folders under $HOME15:59
Riddellhi Roger16:00
ubuntu4shaneI'm using my laptop lately quite a bit, and when I type my thumb accidentally bumps the touchpad, and I end up with a mess.  Is there a way to disable the touchpad while the keyboard is being used?  I know in Gnome it was automagic and I didn't have that problem.  I found a few links, but all outdated.  Any thoughts ideas?16:00
QuintasanRiddell: >everyoen16:00
QuintasanThere is a typo in your blog post :)16:00
ubuntu4shaneI went to System Settings -> Input devices, and Touch Pad, and nothing there indicated a way to fix that.16:00
RiddellUDS sponsorship time! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-August/005367.html16:00
* Riddell nudges some friendly upsteams like fregl or steveire to come to UDS too16:01
RiddellQuintasan: ta, fixed16:02
* Quintasan reads further16:02
Quintasanyofel: You look totally different than I thought :D16:03
Riddellubuntu4shane: hmm, I'm sure that's come up before but i don't remember the answer.  #kubuntu is the right place for user questions so maybe they know16:03
ubuntu4shaneRiddell: that was my first stop, and Daskreech said the same thing. :)  Seems everyone has heard of it, but no real answer. :)16:04
DaskreechRiddell: Would it make sense to put a bug up against KDE?16:05
Daskreechor is that a synaptics issue?16:05
QuintasanDaskreech: See the link on #kubuntu, it's upstream issue tracker16:06
QuintasanShould be good place to submit the bug16:06
Riddellit's synaptiks, dunno where they keep bugs16:06
QuintasanRiddell: Oh, not sure who do I thank but some time ago maxb told us that kde imports are fully working :)16:08
* Quintasan notes that some time ago was really some time ago but he forgot about that16:09
RiddellQuintasan: imports from upstream or imports into UDD?16:09
QuintasanRiddell: imports from upstream, more specifically, there was a bug in bzr16:09
Riddella good candidate for thanks is probably jelmer who I think got the bzr upgrade in launchpad done16:10
QuintasanI see16:11
QuintasanI gotta hangout more in #bzr16:11
* Riddell files bug 82404016:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82404016:24
shadeslayerthey gave out ExoPC's16:26
shadeslayerbulldog98 got one16:26
Riddellwhat's one of them?16:27
QuintasanRiddell: We won't get that into archive16:46
Quintasansimon I mean16:46
RiddellQuintasan: why not?16:46
QuintasanRiddell: IIRC it depends on HTK which is not entirely archive-friendly16:46
Riddellhmm, fooey16:46
QuintasanLet me confirm it16:47
QuintasanMost likely no UDS for me as well16:48
QuintasanBooyah, the source is 30mb16:49
QuintasanRiddell: I've assigned myself bug 824040, I'll try to get it into Debian16:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82404016:50
QuintasanRiddell: >However, simon never links to the HTK <-- we are saved16:51
Riddellcan you get HTK from elsewhere?16:53
QuintasanRiddell: You can get it for free but you have to register on a certain website which I can't remember right nwo16:56
Riddellbut still worth having simon in the archives16:57
QuintasanRiddell: Is it really that awesome?17:03
Riddellas an accessibility tool yes17:03
Quintasan!search qaudio.h17:04
ubottuFound: 17:04
Quintasan!file qaudio.h17:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about file qaudio.h17:04
Quintasan!info qaudio.h17:04
ubottuPackage qaudio.h does not exist in natty17:04
Quintasanmake -j24 ++17:05
Quintasanqtmobility-dev doesnt cut it17:06
debfxthat reminds me, someone should update qtmobility to 1.2 before FF17:23
QuintasanMaybe that's why there is no qaudio.h :P17:27
Quintasanjussi: ping17:29
QuintasanRiddell: Well, I'm kinda stuck17:30
QuintasanRiddell: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libqwt6 is needed to get simon working17:30
QuintasanCan you do something with your admin hat?17:31
RiddellQuintasan: like sync it?17:31
QuintasanRiddell: For example :)17:31
QuintasanThen I can start actually bugging upstream their code is pita to compile17:32
QuintasanBut that's another story17:32
RiddellQuintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qwt 6.0.0 is already in17:33
QuintasanRiddell: Meh, I searched in the wrong window, sorry17:34
* Quintasan goes for a beer17:37
QuintasanToo much stuff today17:37
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah17:44
shadeslayerRiddell: bulldog98 got a ExoPC17:45
Riddellwhich is what?17:45
shadeslayera tablet ...17:46
shadeslayeri think dslogger got one too17:46
_Groo_hi/2 all17:48
_Groo_is apachelogger asleep?17:48
mfraz74Which version of digikam will be in Oneric 1.9 or 2.0?17:52
jussiQuintasan: whaaa...17:53
ScottKmfraz74: Depends on if we can get 2.0 packaged.  It's provided in a not very distro friendly way.18:13
debfxRiddell: can you promote qrencode and prison to main? both have approved MIRs18:16
Riddelldebfx: got beastie numbers?18:17
debfxbug #82270118:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 822701 in qrencode (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qrencode" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82270118:17
debfxbug #82323518:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 823235 in prison (Ubuntu) "[MIR] prison" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82323518:17
Riddelldebfx: voila18:25
debfxRiddell: thanks!18:25
_Groo_btw i have made packages for digikam 2.0 final18:40
_Groo_needed to rebuild for 4.7 anyway18:40
ScottK_Groo_: Does it use system libraries and not the embedded kipi-plugins and kdegraphics code copies?18:41
mfraz74There are some on Philip Johnsson's PPA18:41
_Groo_mfraz74: i adapted from there18:41
_Groo_ScottK: it uses mostly system libs... the only ones he doesnt are the ones not available in natty18:42
_Groo_3 or 4 the most18:42
ScottK_Groo_: Are any of them available in Oneiric?18:42
ScottKIf you've done that, it might be suitable.18:42
_Groo_ScottK: didnt check, i did it for natty18:42
ScottKIt'd be nice to get it in.18:42
_Groo_ScottK: i can work on them this weekend18:43
ScottKyofel or Quintasan: Who was working on digikam?18:43
_Groo_ScottK: ill upload them to my ppa, you guys check on it18:43
_Groo_ScottK: and let me know18:43
ScottKSomeone ought to work with _Groo_ and get this done.18:43
ScottK_Groo_: Thanks.18:43
_Groo_ScottK: if i dont arrive very late at home today, ill try to upload them18:43
_Groo_ScottK: if not just friday18:44
_Groo_ScottK: let me pastebin the dependecies, so you can take a look18:44
_Groo_wheres apachelogger?18:44
ScottK_Groo_: I'm busy with $WORK right now, so it might be a bit.18:44
ScottK_Groo_: He's dslogger ATM.18:44
_Groo_ScottK: no problem pastebin doest go away ;)18:44
_Groo_dslogger: PING PING PING18:44
_Groo_phonon-gstreamer is kinda broken in git atm18:45
_Groo_it opens the video window in a new window instead of embedded18:45
_Groo_and crashes the app on exit18:45
_Groo_ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662874/18:46
_Groo_ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662876/18:47
debfxScottK: W: dh_python2:90: Python 2.7 should install files in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/. Did you forget "--install-layout=deb"?19:51
debfx(kde-workspace build log)19:51
ScottKRight, dh_python2 takes care of that.19:52
* ScottK looks19:52
ScottKdebfx: plasma/generic/scriptengines/python/plasma_importer.py is installed as a public module, so in theory that should be fixed, but dh_python2 will DTRT, so it's not urgent.19:55
dsloggershadeslayer: make kubuntu tablet happen you silly person20:29
dsloggerBlizzz: where can I get a good curry wurst?21:24
dsloggerBlizzz: we need to go eat curry wurst tomorrow21:24
dsloggerI am somewhat missing out on that21:24
Blizzzdslogger: you're asking that a vegetarian ;)21:24
dsloggeryou are of no use :P21:25
dsloggeranyhow, tomorrow the kubuntus need to go for dinner21:25
Blizzzthere is an famous Imbiss at i think Eberswalder Straße21:25
BlizzzKonnopkes or so21:25
Blizzzmeh, tomorrow is bad, i am dated21:25
dsloggerQuintasan_: pingpingpingping21:43
dsloggerQuintasan_: I need maliit21:43
dsloggerright now21:43
* Quintasan_ throws qmake at apa21:43
* Quintasan_ throws qmake at dslogger21:43
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
Quintasandslogger: oneeyerick or natty?21:44
dsloggerQuintasan: oneyerick21:44
Quintasanmaliit-framework once, order accepted21:45
Quintasandslogger: PPA or what?21:49
Quintasandslogger: If you want in in archive then you have to wait21:50
Quintasandslogger: SO?21:53
QuintasanI'm so going to kick him one of these days21:55
* Quintasan takes Almight Stick of dslogger Poking21:56
Quintasanbambee: kick dslogger pls21:59
bambeeQuintasan: ?21:59
dsloggerQuintasan: ppa is fin for now21:59
dsloggerQuintasan: I got an expopc slate21:59
dsloggeralready got oneeyrick installed21:59
Quintasandslogger: Cool story bro since that crap uses X server for tests21:59
* bambee missed a part of the discussion...22:00
dsloggerQuintasan: kick the tests22:01
Quintasanbambee: I wanted someone to kick him because he wasn't responding :P22:01
bambeeah :D22:01
* bambee kicks dslogger (even if it's too late)22:01
* dslogger touches bambee inappropriately22:02
Quintasandslogger: ppa:quintasan/ppa 22:05
QuintasanAnd wait now22:05
Quintasandslogger: I just pulled off a quick and dirty package, should work22:05
dsloggerQuintasan: do you remember how to start it?22:06
dsloggeror the wiki page which describes it22:06
Quintasandslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/maliit-framework_0.80.0-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz here is the debian magic22:06
Quintasan/usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -target slate -bypass-wm-hint22:06
Quintasanreplace slate with something else22:07
Quintasanwhere something else should be under /etc/meegotouch/devices.conf22:07
Quintasanslate is 1024x60022:07
bambeerhhaa  I need coding , I need packing :'(22:07
bambeebut I cannot :'(22:07
Quintasandslogger: >Start in 36 minutes22:07
QuintasanEnjoy ur wait22:07
* dslogger clones and buils plasma-active meanwhile22:08
QuintasanIt's arm?22:08
Quintasandslogger: ARRRRM?22:08
Quintasanwant a deb?22:08
dsloggerkvkbd needs a serious workover22:08
dsloggerit is sorta horrible to use really22:09
Quintasanbrb playing Harvest Moon22:09
dsloggerQuintasan: hf22:09
QuintasanWell, meanwhile at pbuilderz22:10
QuintasanI dispatched wrong build22:16
dsloggeroi vey22:16
Quintasan/usr/bin/derp in install FTW22:17
Quintasandslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/lolmaliit.tar.xz22:29
Quintasandslogger: tell me if it doesnt work22:30
Quintasandslogger: But make it quick22:36
dsloggerQuintasan: I think there is something missing22:41
dsloggerit uses the input method and all but no kbd is showing up22:41
Quintasandslogger: http://wiki.maliit.org/Installing22:43
dsloggeryeah but you need git://gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard.git22:43
QuintasanThose are old22:44
Quintasandslogger: git://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins.git22:45
Quintasancompile this22:45
Quintasanyou have framework22:45
QuintasanI'll package it tomorrow22:45
dsloggerlol there site is dated it appears22:45
Quintasannew site22:45
QuintasanGood night then22:45
Quintasandslogger: I want a movie with that damn keyboard working22:46
dsloggerroger that22:46
dsloggerQuintasan: slee tight22:46
dsloggersleep even22:46
dsloggerQuintasan: meegokeyboardquickplugin.h:35:37: fatal error: minputmethodquickplugin.h: No such file or directory22:57
Quintasandslogger: maliit-framework-dev.install:usr/include/maliit/plugins-quick-0.80/minputmethodquickplugin.h23:07
dsloggeryeah, but for some reason it doesnt find it23:08
DarkwingDuckHow stable is Alpha 3?23:48

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