[12:07] I'm sorry for asking a support question here, but it is about the new KDE 4.7, and I fear not many users will have experience with the situation. Also, i'm looking for an answer within 2 hours because then my swap will be filled and the biggest process will be killed. I'm currently fetching a large volume of mails from a Kolab server. If I look in the various folders in Kontact, the mails are switching around between folders. It [12:07] looks like they are being randomly distributed. Some mails are in the folders where I previously put them, but some are in totally different folders. Mails from the 'sent' folder are now in folders where I keep mailinglists. Private mails are mixed with company mails,... The folders are still there, but it's a chaos. The question is now: If this process is interrupted, and I connect to the server later (after a reboot), will the [12:07] mails be distributed correctly, or will they actually be moved randomly? I'll be running out of system resources in about 2 or 3 hours. What will happen if akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is killed? [12:32] alvin: I have no idea what will happen at the end, please do file a bug upstream about the abnormal memory usage though [12:32] * yofel was looking for clucene for tamahawk. [12:33] interesting lib naming... [12:33] or rather versioning [12:33] 6311477 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 20 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so -> libclucene-core.so.1 [12:33] 6311476 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel 26 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.1 -> libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4 [12:33] 6311475 11M -rwxrwxr-x 1 yofel yofel 11M 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4 [12:33] yofel: I'm thinking about creating a large swapfile, mount it and see it through. Will file a bug report later. [12:37] dslogger: can you subscribe kubuntu-bugs to the prison package? Michal Terry was just commenting on that on the prison MIR [12:37] *Michael [13:13] yofel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2011-August/thread.html [13:13] Are you tracking that? [14:00] ScottK: fyi, in case you didn't see them: I sent two merge requests, for ntrack and kde-runtime; my testing seemed to show no ill effects from the ntrack update [14:00] What's the needed change in kde-runtime? [14:01] nothing, just a rebuild, as you suggested [14:01] in fact, I' m not sure even that is absolutely required [14:06] it was just a "status report", so you know how the testing went since I pinged you about it initially [14:06] Quintasan: I am subscribed to kubuntu-bugs, yes [14:07] yofel: You are SUBSCRIBED to that?! [14:08] Yes I am, the mails get filtered into their own folder though [14:09] @_@ [14:09] * Quintasan goes to driving license course [14:10] I couldn't handle that much mail I guess [14:10] well, it's not like I read every single one of them... [14:15] What mail client can handle that? [14:24] cyphermox: If the soname in libntrack didn't change, it shouldn't need rebuild. [14:25] I've no objections if you update then. [14:32] Desktop Summit blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4466 , good looking people at the bottom, shame nobody took a video of our excellent karaoke [14:38] Riddell: i think someone took our pics when we were on the stage [14:58] Riddell: With your upstream hat on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278857 could really use a look after you get home. [14:58] KDE bug 278857 in general "Printer applet crashed at login" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [14:58] It's starting to pile up dupes. [15:02] ScottK: strangely I can't reproduce it in natty with 4.7 [15:02] Riddell: When it happened to me it was on oneiric. [15:02] * yofel adds some votes [15:03] yeah, which suggests it's something to do with the gcc or the python version in oneiric [15:03] rather than pykde alone, which would be the obvious candidate [15:07] Riddell: Maybe you could grab barry and make him fix it. [15:10] or dbus, there's a bunch of dbus in that backtrace [15:10] at least it's not just ubuntu, that report's from fedora [15:13] talking about 4.7, is middle click broken on the message indicator applet for others? [15:18] Riddell: rdieter just subscribed to the bug, so it's not just our python/dbus/whatever. [15:18] * ScottK notes he should read the backscroll first [15:19] One of the dupes was mine. It happened just after upgrade, but not after. [15:20] ScottK: I noticed the reporter mentioned fedora, yeah. :( [15:20] "but not before"? [15:20] Riddell: No. Before I had 4.6. [15:21] * rdieter heard rumors of odd python quirks after kernel-3.0.0 landed, may be related? [15:22] pykde's kcm integration has had issues before [15:26] these patches fix up phonon with pulseaudio, means I can use the microphone on my usb headset again [15:26] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/phonon/oneiric/revision/39# [15:27] will upload to oneiric and natty backports PPA once apachelogger approves [15:32] Nice. [15:38] alvin: btw akonadi_nepomuk_feeder can be switched off [15:38] it only indexes your mail and hogs up resources if you have millions of emails [15:45] rdieter: do you know if Fedora has nepomuk's strigi integration on by default? [15:45] Riddell: after the initial re-indexing was done strigi is pretty silent here [15:47] yofel: next question is will you find yourself actually using it? [15:48] come again in a month and I might have an answer... [15:52] dolphin's search interface is quite nice now, but I find myself using KRunner more [15:57] * yofel is off to dinner, bye [15:59] hi Riddell :) [15:59] Riddell: strigi is enabled currently yes, but only on a (small) subset of folders under $HOME [16:00] hi Roger [16:00] I'm using my laptop lately quite a bit, and when I type my thumb accidentally bumps the touchpad, and I end up with a mess. Is there a way to disable the touchpad while the keyboard is being used? I know in Gnome it was automagic and I didn't have that problem. I found a few links, but all outdated. Any thoughts ideas? [16:00] Riddell: >everyoen [16:00] There is a typo in your blog post :) [16:00] I went to System Settings -> Input devices, and Touch Pad, and nothing there indicated a way to fix that. [16:00] UDS sponsorship time! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-August/005367.html [16:01] * Riddell nudges some friendly upsteams like fregl or steveire to come to UDS too [16:02] Quintasan: ta, fixed [16:02] * Quintasan reads further [16:03] yofel: You look totally different than I thought :D [16:03] ubuntu4shane: hmm, I'm sure that's come up before but i don't remember the answer. #kubuntu is the right place for user questions so maybe they know [16:04] Riddell: that was my first stop, and Daskreech said the same thing. :) Seems everyone has heard of it, but no real answer. :) [16:05] Riddell: Would it make sense to put a bug up against KDE? [16:05] or is that a synaptics issue? [16:06] Daskreech: See the link on #kubuntu, it's upstream issue tracker [16:06] Should be good place to submit the bug [16:06] it's synaptiks, dunno where they keep bugs [16:07] https://github.com/lunaryorn/synaptiks/issues [16:08] Riddell: Oh, not sure who do I thank but some time ago maxb told us that kde imports are fully working :) [16:09] * Quintasan notes that some time ago was really some time ago but he forgot about that [16:09] Quintasan: imports from upstream or imports into UDD? [16:09] Riddell: imports from upstream, more specifically, there was a bug in bzr [16:10] a good candidate for thanks is probably jelmer who I think got the bzr upgrade in launchpad done [16:11] I see [16:11] I gotta hangout more in #bzr [16:24] * Riddell files bug 824040 [16:24] Launchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824040 [16:26] bah [16:26] they gave out ExoPC's [16:26] bulldog98 got one [16:26] :'( [16:27] WAHT? [16:27] what's one of them? [16:46] Riddell: We won't get that into archive [16:46] simon I mean [16:46] Quintasan: why not? [16:46] Riddell: IIRC it depends on HTK which is not entirely archive-friendly [16:46] hmm, fooey [16:47] Let me confirm it [16:48] Most likely no UDS for me as well [16:49] Booyah, the source is 30mb [16:50] Riddell: I've assigned myself bug 824040, I'll try to get it into Debian [16:50] Launchpad bug 824040 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging: simon" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824040 [16:51] Riddell: >However, simon never links to the HTK <-- we are saved [16:53] can you get HTK from elsewhere? [16:56] Riddell: You can get it for free but you have to register on a certain website which I can't remember right nwo [16:56] now* [16:57] nasty [16:57] but still worth having simon in the archives [17:03] Riddell: Is it really that awesome? [17:03] as an accessibility tool yes [17:03] hmmm [17:04] !search qaudio.h [17:04] Found: [17:04] !file qaudio.h [17:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about file qaudio.h [17:04] !info qaudio.h [17:04] Package qaudio.h does not exist in natty [17:04] brrr [17:05] make -j24 ++ [17:06] Hmmmmmm [17:06] qtmobility-dev doesnt cut it [17:23] that reminds me, someone should update qtmobility to 1.2 before FF [17:27] Maybe that's why there is no qaudio.h :P [17:29] jussi: ping [17:30] Riddell: Well, I'm kinda stuck [17:30] Riddell: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libqwt6 is needed to get simon working [17:31] Can you do something with your admin hat? [17:31] Quintasan: like sync it? [17:31] Riddell: For example :) [17:32] Then I can start actually bugging upstream their code is pita to compile [17:32] But that's another story [17:33] Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qwt 6.0.0 is already in [17:33] HUH? [17:34] Riddell: Meh, I searched in the wrong window, sorry [17:37] * Quintasan goes for a beer [17:37] Too much stuff today [17:44] Quintasan: yeah [17:45] Riddell: bulldog98 got a ExoPC [17:45] which is what? [17:46] a tablet ... [17:46] i think dslogger got one too [17:48] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [17:48] <_Groo_> is apachelogger asleep? [17:52] Which version of digikam will be in Oneric 1.9 or 2.0? [17:53] Quintasan: whaaa... [18:13] mfraz74: Depends on if we can get 2.0 packaged. It's provided in a not very distro friendly way. [18:16] Riddell: can you promote qrencode and prison to main? both have approved MIRs [18:17] debfx: got beastie numbers? [18:17] bug #822701 [18:17] Launchpad bug 822701 in qrencode (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qrencode" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/822701 [18:17] bug #823235 [18:17] Launchpad bug 823235 in prison (Ubuntu) "[MIR] prison" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823235 [18:25] debfx: voila [18:25] Riddell: thanks! [18:40] <_Groo_> btw i have made packages for digikam 2.0 final [18:40] <_Groo_> needed to rebuild for 4.7 anyway [18:41] _Groo_: Does it use system libraries and not the embedded kipi-plugins and kdegraphics code copies? [18:41] There are some on Philip Johnsson's PPA [18:41] <_Groo_> mfraz74: i adapted from there [18:42] <_Groo_> ScottK: it uses mostly system libs... the only ones he doesnt are the ones not available in natty [18:42] <_Groo_> 3 or 4 the most [18:42] _Groo_: Are any of them available in Oneiric? [18:42] If you've done that, it might be suitable. [18:42] <_Groo_> ScottK: didnt check, i did it for natty [18:42] It'd be nice to get it in. [18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: i can work on them this weekend [18:43] yofel or Quintasan: Who was working on digikam? [18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: ill upload them to my ppa, you guys check on it [18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: and let me know [18:43] Someone ought to work with _Groo_ and get this done. [18:43] _Groo_: Thanks. [18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: if i dont arrive very late at home today, ill try to upload them [18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: if not just friday [18:44] Thanks. [18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: let me pastebin the dependecies, so you can take a look [18:44] <_Groo_> wheres apachelogger? [18:44] _Groo_: I'm busy with $WORK right now, so it might be a bit. [18:44] _Groo_: He's dslogger ATM. [18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: no problem pastebin doest go away ;) [18:44] <_Groo_> dslogger: PING PING PING [18:45] <_Groo_> phonon-gstreamer is kinda broken in git atm [18:45] <_Groo_> it opens the video window in a new window instead of embedded [18:45] <_Groo_> and crashes the app on exit [18:46] <_Groo_> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662874/ [18:47] <_Groo_> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662876/ [19:51] ScottK: W: dh_python2:90: Python 2.7 should install files in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/. Did you forget "--install-layout=deb"? [19:51] (kde-workspace build log) [19:52] Right, dh_python2 takes care of that. [19:52] * ScottK looks [19:55] debfx: plasma/generic/scriptengines/python/plasma_importer.py is installed as a public module, so in theory that should be fixed, but dh_python2 will DTRT, so it's not urgent. [19:57] ok [20:29] shadeslayer: make kubuntu tablet happen you silly person [21:24] Blizzz: where can I get a good curry wurst? [21:24] Blizzz: we need to go eat curry wurst tomorrow [21:24] I am somewhat missing out on that [21:24] dslogger: you're asking that a vegetarian ;) [21:25] G [21:25] srsly [21:25] you are of no use :P [21:25] anyhow, tomorrow the kubuntus need to go for dinner [21:25] there is an famous Imbiss at i think Eberswalder Straße [21:25] Konnopkes or so [21:25] meh, tomorrow is bad, i am dated [21:38] evening [21:43] Quintasan_: pingpingpingping [21:43] Quintasan_: I need maliit [21:43] like [21:43] right now [21:43] NOW [21:43] * Quintasan_ throws qmake at apa [21:43] bleh [21:43] * Quintasan_ throws qmake at dslogger === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:44] dslogger: oneeyerick or natty? [21:44] Quintasan: oneyerick [21:45] maliit-framework once, order accepted [21:45] Quintasan++ [21:49] hrmm [21:49] err [21:49] dslogger: PPA or what? [21:50] dslogger: If you want in in archive then you have to wait [21:50] it* [21:53] dslogger: SO? [21:55] I'm so going to kick him one of these days [21:56] * Quintasan takes Almight Stick of dslogger Poking [21:59] bambee: kick dslogger pls [21:59] Quintasan: ? [21:59] Quintasan: ppa is fin for now [21:59] Quintasan: I got an expopc slate [21:59] Finally [21:59] already got oneeyrick installed [21:59] dslogger: Cool story bro since that crap uses X server for tests [22:00] * bambee missed a part of the discussion... [22:01] Quintasan: kick the tests [22:01] bambee: I wanted someone to kick him because he wasn't responding :P [22:01] ah :D [22:01] * bambee kicks dslogger (even if it's too late) [22:01] :p [22:02] * dslogger touches bambee inappropriately [22:05] dslogger: ppa:quintasan/ppa [22:05] And wait now [22:05] dslogger: I just pulled off a quick and dirty package, should work [22:06] Quintasan: do you remember how to start it? [22:06] or the wiki page which describes it [22:06] dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/maliit-framework_0.80.0-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz here is the debian magic [22:06] IIRC [22:06] /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -target slate -bypass-wm-hint [22:07] replace slate with something else [22:07] where something else should be under /etc/meegotouch/devices.conf [22:07] slate is 1024x600 [22:07] rhhaa I need coding , I need packing :'( [22:07] but I cannot :'( [22:07] lol [22:07] dslogger: >Start in 36 minutes [22:07] Enjoy ur wait [22:07] fooey [22:08] * dslogger clones and buils plasma-active meanwhile [22:08] It's arm? [22:08] dslogger: ARRRRM? [22:08] no [22:08] x86 [22:08] pfff [22:08] want a deb? [22:08] plz [22:08] kvkbd needs a serious workover [22:09] it is sorta horrible to use really [22:09] brb playing Harvest Moon [22:09] Quintasan: hf [22:10] Well, meanwhile at pbuilderz [22:14] FCK [22:16] I dispatched wrong build [22:16] oi vey [22:17] /usr/bin/derp in install FTW [22:29] dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/lolmaliit.tar.xz [22:30] dslogger: tell me if it doesnt work [22:36] dslogger: But make it quick [22:41] Quintasan: I think there is something missing [22:41] it uses the input method and all but no kbd is showing up [22:43] dslogger: http://wiki.maliit.org/Installing [22:43] yeah but you need git://gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard.git [22:44] Those are old [22:44] http://gitorious.org/maliit/ [22:45] dslogger: git://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins.git [22:45] compile this [22:45] you have framework [22:45] I'll package it tomorrow [22:45] lol there site is dated it appears [22:45] new site [22:45] http://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page [22:45] Good night then [22:46] dslogger: I want a movie with that damn keyboard working [22:46] roger that [22:46] Quintasan: slee tight [22:46] sleep even [22:57] Quintasan: meegokeyboardquickplugin.h:35:37: fatal error: minputmethodquickplugin.h: No such file or directory [23:07] dslogger: maliit-framework-dev.install:usr/include/maliit/plugins-quick-0.80/minputmethodquickplugin.h [23:07] :S [23:08] yeah, but for some reason it doesnt find it [23:48] How stable is Alpha 3?