[12:07] <alvin> I'm sorry for asking a support question here, but it is about the new KDE 4.7, and I fear not many users will have experience with the situation. Also, i'm looking for an answer within 2 hours because then my swap will be filled and the biggest process will be killed. I'm currently fetching a large volume of mails from a Kolab server. If I look in the various folders in Kontact, the mails are switching around between folders. It
[12:07] <alvin>  looks like they are being randomly distributed. Some mails are in the folders where I previously put them, but some are in totally different folders. Mails from the 'sent' folder are now in folders where I keep mailinglists. Private mails are mixed with company mails,... The folders are still there, but it's a chaos. The question is now: If this process is interrupted, and I connect to the server later (after a reboot), will the
[12:07] <alvin>  mails be distributed correctly, or will they actually be moved randomly? I'll be running out of system resources in about 2 or 3 hours. What will happen if akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is killed?
[12:32] <yofel> alvin: I have no idea what will happen at the end, please do file a bug upstream about the abnormal memory usage though
[12:32]  * yofel was looking for clucene for tamahawk.
[12:33] <yofel> interesting lib naming...
[12:33] <yofel> or rather versioning
[12:33] <yofel> 6311477    0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel   20 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so -> libclucene-core.so.1
[12:33] <yofel> 6311476    0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 yofel yofel   26 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.1 -> libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4
[12:33] <yofel> 6311475  11M -rwxrwxr-x 1 yofel yofel  11M 2011-08-10 14:28 libclucene-core.so.2.3.3.4
[12:33] <alvin> yofel: I'm thinking about creating a large swapfile, mount it and see it through. Will file a bug report later.
[12:37] <yofel> dslogger: can you subscribe kubuntu-bugs to the prison package? Michal Terry was just commenting on that on the prison MIR
[12:37] <yofel> *Michael
[13:13] <Quintasan> yofel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2011-August/thread.html
[13:13] <Quintasan> Are you tracking that?
[14:00] <cyphermox> ScottK: fyi, in case you didn't see them: I sent two merge requests, for ntrack and kde-runtime; my testing seemed to show no ill effects from the ntrack update
[14:00] <ScottK> What's the needed change in kde-runtime?
[14:01] <cyphermox> nothing, just a rebuild, as you suggested
[14:01] <cyphermox> in fact, I' m not sure even that is absolutely required
[14:06] <cyphermox> it was just a "status report", so you know how the testing went since I pinged you about it initially
[14:06] <yofel> Quintasan: I am subscribed to kubuntu-bugs, yes
[14:07] <Quintasan> yofel: You are SUBSCRIBED to that?!
[14:08] <yofel> Yes I am, the mails get filtered into their own folder though
[14:09] <Quintasan> @_@
[14:09]  * Quintasan goes to driving license course
[14:10] <Quintasan> I couldn't handle that much mail I guess
[14:10] <yofel> well, it's not like I read every single one of them...
[14:15] <alvin> What mail client can handle that?
[14:24] <ScottK> cyphermox: If the soname in libntrack didn't change, it shouldn't need rebuild.
[14:25] <ScottK> I've no objections if you update then.
[14:32] <Riddell> Desktop Summit blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4466 , good looking people at the bottom, shame nobody took a video of our excellent karaoke
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i think someone took our pics when we were on the stage
[14:58] <ScottK> Riddell: With your upstream hat on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278857 could really use a look after you get home.
[14:58] <ScottK> It's starting to pile up dupes.
[15:02] <Riddell> ScottK: strangely I can't reproduce it in natty with 4.7
[15:02] <ScottK> Riddell: When it happened to me it was on oneiric.
[15:02]  * yofel adds some votes
[15:03] <Riddell> yeah, which suggests it's something to do with the gcc or the python version in oneiric
[15:03] <Riddell> rather than pykde alone, which would be the obvious candidate
[15:07] <ScottK> Riddell: Maybe you could grab barry and make him fix it.
[15:10] <Riddell> or dbus, there's a bunch of dbus in that backtrace
[15:10] <Riddell> at least it's not just ubuntu, that report's from fedora
[15:13] <Riddell> talking about 4.7, is middle click broken on the message indicator applet for others?
[15:18] <ScottK> Riddell: rdieter just subscribed to the bug, so it's not just our python/dbus/whatever.
[15:18]  * ScottK notes he should read the backscroll first
[15:19] <ScottK> One of the dupes was mine.  It happened just after upgrade, but not after.
[15:20] <rdieter> ScottK: I noticed the reporter mentioned fedora, yeah. :(
[15:20] <Riddell> "but not before"?
[15:20] <ScottK> Riddell: No. Before I had 4.6.
[15:21]  * rdieter heard rumors of odd python quirks after kernel-3.0.0 landed, may be related?
[15:22] <Riddell> pykde's kcm integration has had issues before
[15:26] <Riddell> these patches fix up phonon with pulseaudio, means I can use the microphone on my usb headset again
[15:26] <Riddell> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/phonon/oneiric/revision/39#
[15:27] <Riddell> will upload to oneiric and natty backports PPA once apachelogger approves
[15:32] <ScottK> Nice.
[15:38] <shadeslayer> alvin: btw akonadi_nepomuk_feeder can be switched off
[15:38] <shadeslayer> it only indexes your mail and hogs up resources if you have millions of emails
[15:45] <Riddell> rdieter: do you know if Fedora has nepomuk's strigi integration on by default?
[15:45] <yofel> Riddell: after the initial re-indexing was done strigi is pretty silent here
[15:47] <Riddell> yofel: next question is will you find yourself actually using it?
[15:48] <yofel> come again in a month and I might have an answer...
[15:52] <Riddell> dolphin's search interface is quite nice now, but I find myself using KRunner more
[15:57]  * yofel is off to dinner, bye
[15:59] <Daskreech> hi Riddell :)
[15:59] <rdieter> Riddell: strigi is enabled currently yes, but only on a (small) subset of folders under $HOME
[16:00] <Riddell> hi Roger
[16:00] <ubuntu4shane> I'm using my laptop lately quite a bit, and when I type my thumb accidentally bumps the touchpad, and I end up with a mess.  Is there a way to disable the touchpad while the keyboard is being used?  I know in Gnome it was automagic and I didn't have that problem.  I found a few links, but all outdated.  Any thoughts ideas?
[16:00] <Quintasan> Riddell: >everyoen
[16:00] <Quintasan> There is a typo in your blog post :)
[16:00] <ubuntu4shane> I went to System Settings -> Input devices, and Touch Pad, and nothing there indicated a way to fix that.
[16:00] <Riddell> UDS sponsorship time! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-August/005367.html
[16:01]  * Riddell nudges some friendly upsteams like fregl or steveire to come to UDS too
[16:02] <Riddell> Quintasan: ta, fixed
[16:02]  * Quintasan reads further
[16:03] <Quintasan> yofel: You look totally different than I thought :D
[16:03] <Riddell> ubuntu4shane: hmm, I'm sure that's come up before but i don't remember the answer.  #kubuntu is the right place for user questions so maybe they know
[16:04] <ubuntu4shane> Riddell: that was my first stop, and Daskreech said the same thing. :)  Seems everyone has heard of it, but no real answer. :)
[16:05] <Daskreech> Riddell: Would it make sense to put a bug up against KDE?
[16:05] <Daskreech> or is that a synaptics issue?
[16:06] <Quintasan> Daskreech: See the link on #kubuntu, it's upstream issue tracker
[16:06] <Quintasan> Should be good place to submit the bug
[16:06] <Riddell> it's synaptiks, dunno where they keep bugs
[16:07] <Quintasan> https://github.com/lunaryorn/synaptiks/issues
[16:08] <Quintasan> Riddell: Oh, not sure who do I thank but some time ago maxb told us that kde imports are fully working :)
[16:09]  * Quintasan notes that some time ago was really some time ago but he forgot about that
[16:09] <Riddell> Quintasan: imports from upstream or imports into UDD?
[16:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: imports from upstream, more specifically, there was a bug in bzr
[16:10] <Riddell> a good candidate for thanks is probably jelmer who I think got the bzr upgrade in launchpad done
[16:11] <Quintasan> I see
[16:11] <Quintasan> I gotta hangout more in #bzr
[16:24]  * Riddell files bug 824040
[16:26] <shadeslayer> bah
[16:26] <shadeslayer> they gave out ExoPC's
[16:26] <shadeslayer> bulldog98 got one
[16:26] <shadeslayer> :'(
[16:27] <Quintasan> WAHT?
[16:27] <Riddell> what's one of them?
[16:46] <Quintasan> Riddell: We won't get that into archive
[16:46] <Quintasan> simon I mean
[16:46] <Riddell> Quintasan: why not?
[16:46] <Quintasan> Riddell: IIRC it depends on HTK which is not entirely archive-friendly
[16:46] <Riddell> hmm, fooey
[16:47] <Quintasan> Let me confirm it
[16:48] <Quintasan> Most likely no UDS for me as well
[16:49] <Quintasan> Booyah, the source is 30mb
[16:50] <Quintasan> Riddell: I've assigned myself bug 824040, I'll try to get it into Debian
[16:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: >However, simon never links to the HTK <-- we are saved
[16:53] <Riddell> can you get HTK from elsewhere?
[16:56] <Quintasan> Riddell: You can get it for free but you have to register on a certain website which I can't remember right nwo
[16:56] <Quintasan> now*
[16:57] <Riddell> nasty
[16:57] <Riddell> but still worth having simon in the archives
[17:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: Is it really that awesome?
[17:03] <Riddell> as an accessibility tool yes
[17:03] <Quintasan> hmmm
[17:04] <Quintasan> !search qaudio.h
[17:04] <Quintasan> !file qaudio.h
[17:04] <Quintasan> !info qaudio.h
[17:04] <Quintasan> brrr
[17:05] <Quintasan> make -j24 ++
[17:06] <Quintasan> Hmmmmmm
[17:06] <Quintasan> qtmobility-dev doesnt cut it
[17:23] <debfx> that reminds me, someone should update qtmobility to 1.2 before FF
[17:27] <Quintasan> Maybe that's why there is no qaudio.h :P
[17:29] <Quintasan> jussi: ping
[17:30] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well, I'm kinda stuck
[17:30] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libqwt6 is needed to get simon working
[17:31] <Quintasan> Can you do something with your admin hat?
[17:31] <Riddell> Quintasan: like sync it?
[17:31] <Quintasan> Riddell: For example :)
[17:32] <Quintasan> Then I can start actually bugging upstream their code is pita to compile
[17:32] <Quintasan> But that's another story
[17:33] <Riddell> Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qwt 6.0.0 is already in
[17:33] <Quintasan> HUH?
[17:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: Meh, I searched in the wrong window, sorry
[17:37]  * Quintasan goes for a beer
[17:37] <Quintasan> Too much stuff today
[17:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bulldog98 got a ExoPC
[17:45] <Riddell> which is what?
[17:46] <shadeslayer> a tablet ...
[17:46] <shadeslayer> i think dslogger got one too
[17:48] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[17:48] <_Groo_> is apachelogger asleep?
[17:52] <mfraz74> Which version of digikam will be in Oneric 1.9 or 2.0?
[17:53] <jussi> Quintasan: whaaa...
[18:13] <ScottK> mfraz74: Depends on if we can get 2.0 packaged.  It's provided in a not very distro friendly way.
[18:16] <debfx> Riddell: can you promote qrencode and prison to main? both have approved MIRs
[18:17] <Riddell> debfx: got beastie numbers?
[18:17] <debfx> bug #822701
[18:17] <debfx> bug #823235
[18:25] <Riddell> debfx: voila
[18:25] <debfx> Riddell: thanks!
[18:40] <_Groo_> btw i have made packages for digikam 2.0 final
[18:40] <_Groo_> needed to rebuild for 4.7 anyway
[18:41] <ScottK> _Groo_: Does it use system libraries and not the embedded kipi-plugins and kdegraphics code copies?
[18:41] <mfraz74> There are some on Philip Johnsson's PPA
[18:41] <_Groo_> mfraz74: i adapted from there
[18:42] <_Groo_> ScottK: it uses mostly system libs... the only ones he doesnt are the ones not available in natty
[18:42] <_Groo_> 3 or 4 the most
[18:42] <ScottK> _Groo_: Are any of them available in Oneiric?
[18:42] <ScottK> If you've done that, it might be suitable.
[18:42] <_Groo_> ScottK: didnt check, i did it for natty
[18:42] <ScottK> It'd be nice to get it in.
[18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: i can work on them this weekend
[18:43] <ScottK> yofel or Quintasan: Who was working on digikam?
[18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: ill upload them to my ppa, you guys check on it
[18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: and let me know
[18:43] <ScottK> Someone ought to work with _Groo_ and get this done.
[18:43] <ScottK> _Groo_: Thanks.
[18:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: if i dont arrive very late at home today, ill try to upload them
[18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: if not just friday
[18:44] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: let me pastebin the dependecies, so you can take a look
[18:44] <_Groo_> wheres apachelogger?
[18:44] <ScottK> _Groo_: I'm busy with $WORK right now, so it might be a bit.
[18:44] <ScottK> _Groo_: He's dslogger ATM.
[18:44] <_Groo_> ScottK: no problem pastebin doest go away ;)
[18:44] <_Groo_> dslogger: PING PING PING
[18:45] <_Groo_> phonon-gstreamer is kinda broken in git atm
[18:45] <_Groo_> it opens the video window in a new window instead of embedded
[18:45] <_Groo_> and crashes the app on exit
[18:46] <_Groo_> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662874/
[18:47] <_Groo_> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662876/
[19:51] <debfx> ScottK: W: dh_python2:90: Python 2.7 should install files in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/. Did you forget "--install-layout=deb"?
[19:51] <debfx> (kde-workspace build log)
[19:52] <ScottK> Right, dh_python2 takes care of that.
[19:52]  * ScottK looks
[19:55] <ScottK> debfx: plasma/generic/scriptengines/python/plasma_importer.py is installed as a public module, so in theory that should be fixed, but dh_python2 will DTRT, so it's not urgent.
[19:57] <debfx> ok
[20:29] <dslogger> shadeslayer: make kubuntu tablet happen you silly person
[21:24] <dslogger> Blizzz: where can I get a good curry wurst?
[21:24] <dslogger> Blizzz: we need to go eat curry wurst tomorrow
[21:24] <dslogger> I am somewhat missing out on that
[21:24] <Blizzz> dslogger: you're asking that a vegetarian ;)
[21:25] <dslogger> G
[21:25] <dslogger> srsly
[21:25] <dslogger> you are of no use :P
[21:25] <dslogger> anyhow, tomorrow the kubuntus need to go for dinner
[21:25] <Blizzz> there is an famous Imbiss at i think Eberswalder Straße
[21:25] <Blizzz> Konnopkes or so
[21:25] <Blizzz> meh, tomorrow is bad, i am dated
[21:38] <bambee> evening
[21:43] <dslogger> Quintasan_: pingpingpingping
[21:43] <dslogger> Quintasan_: I need maliit
[21:43] <dslogger> like
[21:43] <dslogger> right now
[21:43] <dslogger> NOW
[21:43]  * Quintasan_ throws qmake at apa
[21:43] <Quintasan_> bleh
[21:43]  * Quintasan_ throws qmake at dslogger
[21:44] <Quintasan> dslogger: oneeyerick or natty?
[21:44] <dslogger> Quintasan: oneyerick
[21:45] <Quintasan> maliit-framework once, order accepted
[21:45] <dslogger> Quintasan++
[21:49] <Quintasan> hrmm
[21:49] <Quintasan> err
[21:49] <Quintasan> dslogger: PPA or what?
[21:50] <Quintasan> dslogger: If you want in in archive then you have to wait
[21:50] <Quintasan> it*
[21:53] <Quintasan> dslogger: SO?
[21:55] <Quintasan> I'm so going to kick him one of these days
[21:56]  * Quintasan takes Almight Stick of dslogger Poking
[21:59] <Quintasan> bambee: kick dslogger pls
[21:59] <bambee> Quintasan: ?
[21:59] <dslogger> Quintasan: ppa is fin for now
[21:59] <dslogger> Quintasan: I got an expopc slate
[21:59] <Quintasan> Finally
[21:59] <dslogger> already got oneeyrick installed
[21:59] <Quintasan> dslogger: Cool story bro since that crap uses X server for tests
[22:00]  * bambee missed a part of the discussion...
[22:01] <dslogger> Quintasan: kick the tests
[22:01] <Quintasan> bambee: I wanted someone to kick him because he wasn't responding :P
[22:01] <bambee> ah :D
[22:01]  * bambee kicks dslogger (even if it's too late)
[22:01] <bambee> :p
[22:02]  * dslogger touches bambee inappropriately
[22:05] <Quintasan> dslogger: ppa:quintasan/ppa 
[22:05] <Quintasan> And wait now
[22:05] <Quintasan> dslogger: I just pulled off a quick and dirty package, should work
[22:06] <dslogger> Quintasan: do you remember how to start it?
[22:06] <dslogger> or the wiki page which describes it
[22:06] <Quintasan> dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/maliit-framework_0.80.0-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz here is the debian magic
[22:06] <Quintasan> IIRC
[22:06] <Quintasan> /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -target slate -bypass-wm-hint
[22:07] <Quintasan> replace slate with something else
[22:07] <Quintasan> where something else should be under /etc/meegotouch/devices.conf
[22:07] <Quintasan> slate is 1024x600
[22:07] <bambee> rhhaa  I need coding , I need packing :'(
[22:07] <bambee> but I cannot :'(
[22:07] <Quintasan> lol
[22:07] <Quintasan> dslogger: >Start in 36 minutes
[22:07] <Quintasan> Enjoy ur wait
[22:07] <dslogger> fooey
[22:08]  * dslogger clones and buils plasma-active meanwhile
[22:08] <Quintasan> It's arm?
[22:08] <Quintasan> dslogger: ARRRRM?
[22:08] <dslogger> no
[22:08] <dslogger> x86
[22:08] <Quintasan> pfff
[22:08] <Quintasan> want a deb?
[22:08] <dslogger> plz
[22:08] <dslogger> kvkbd needs a serious workover
[22:09] <dslogger> it is sorta horrible to use really
[22:09] <Quintasan> brb playing Harvest Moon
[22:09] <dslogger> Quintasan: hf
[22:10] <Quintasan> Well, meanwhile at pbuilderz
[22:14] <Quintasan> FCK
[22:16] <Quintasan> I dispatched wrong build
[22:16] <dslogger> oi vey
[22:17] <Quintasan> /usr/bin/derp in install FTW
[22:29] <Quintasan> dslogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/lolmaliit.tar.xz
[22:30] <Quintasan> dslogger: tell me if it doesnt work
[22:36] <Quintasan> dslogger: But make it quick
[22:41] <dslogger> Quintasan: I think there is something missing
[22:41] <dslogger> it uses the input method and all but no kbd is showing up
[22:43] <Quintasan> dslogger: http://wiki.maliit.org/Installing
[22:43] <dslogger> yeah but you need git://gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard.git
[22:44] <Quintasan> Those are old
[22:44] <Quintasan> http://gitorious.org/maliit/
[22:45] <Quintasan> dslogger: git://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins.git
[22:45] <Quintasan> compile this
[22:45] <Quintasan> you have framework
[22:45] <Quintasan> I'll package it tomorrow
[22:45] <dslogger> lol there site is dated it appears
[22:45] <Quintasan> new site
[22:45] <Quintasan> http://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
[22:45] <Quintasan> Good night then
[22:46] <Quintasan> dslogger: I want a movie with that damn keyboard working
[22:46] <dslogger> roger that
[22:46] <dslogger> Quintasan: slee tight
[22:46] <dslogger> sleep even
[22:57] <dslogger> Quintasan: meegokeyboardquickplugin.h:35:37: fatal error: minputmethodquickplugin.h: No such file or directory
[23:07] <Quintasan> dslogger: maliit-framework-dev.install:usr/include/maliit/plugins-quick-0.80/minputmethodquickplugin.h
[23:07] <Quintasan> :S
[23:08] <dslogger> yeah, but for some reason it doesnt find it
[23:48] <DarkwingDuck> How stable is Alpha 3?